veteran-class

[junior needle]

Check melk every day

[hollow warren]

I do

bastard has nothing

[junior needle]

But you can turn those swords yellow at least in the future

In your quests for sunder and pc4

(Watch it get gutted in the crafting rework)

[tall torrent]

20k is still pretty low

Some people spent 100k+ and still don’t have it

[junior needle]

I spent over 40k chasing t4 infernus back in ye olde crafting, when the resource drops were less than 1/2 the amount you get now

I didn't get it

And also recons were big shit

[hollow warren]

what's the point of sights on this thing if you always hipfire it?

[tall torrent]

it has ADS animations in 3rd person where ur character actually uses the sights

[hollow warren]

ah, well I don't have mods for 3rd person

[tall torrent]

It’s ok other people can see ur character aiming down sights

U can also see other plasma gun users aiming down sights

[velvet storm]

why do people like autoguns so much

Im prob bad but lasguns are cooler and autoguns feel like poo

lots of recoil and stinky ammo

[white minnow]

the recoil makes them feel good to me and they unload a bunch of damage

i forget if the ironsights still desync from where they're shooting but that might be an issue for you

i have mods to fix that so i've just been experiencing autoguns in their best form

[last parcel]

just shoot like in counter strike

[hidden torrent]

I jump around corners in darktide so I'm not at head height to terrorists

[last parcel]

he flashed me

it’s long

he’s on me on me

[sand zealot]

hey lads, which perk should i change, and to what?

Its the Mk VI power sword, i have room to change one thing. I already have the blessings i want. right now there is a

level 3 20% damage to carapace, and level 3 20% damage to unyielding

[velvet storm]

speaking of mods, what are some good ones

[sand zealot]

health bars and spidey sense are my must haves

[idle swallow]

almighty numbers cat says yours is good enough if you wish

[velvet storm]

Spidey sense seems kind of cheaty

I dont like any cheaty mods

[idle swallow]

uh oh opinion detected

[sand zealot]

thanks for this

[orchid hemlock]

At first I thought this sword was trash

Then I actually used it to push stab crushers and it changed my entire viewpoint on life itself

[orchid hemlock]

How is it cheaty?

[white minnow]

customHUD (to move hud elements around), numeric UI, show remaining dodges, no dodge jump (if you have jump and dodge on the same key, to prevent sideways jumping), loadout config to test around with different weapons without needing to buy them or spend mats,

TalentRefundBelow to make selecting/unselecting talents less painful

Stuff Searcher (search bar for your inventory)
ItemSorting (more sort options for inventory)

ConstantFOV (a personal preference of mines)
MultipleKeybinds
psych_ward (allows you to access shops and psykhanium from the character select screen, including queuing for missions)

[sand zealot]

i guess audio cues are fine but not visual cues

[velvet storm]

Maybe not cheaty

But I dont see the point in it

[white minnow]

it is a visual advantage

i have spidey sense for bursters but otherwise I do turn it off for everything else

[velvet storm]

The audio cues are extremely hard to miss

[white minnow]

since i like to listen to music and can't be assed to listen for bursters

[orchid hemlock]

And what happens if you have an audio impairment?

[sand zealot]

not when your audio bugs out often lol

[velvet storm]

sucks to suck

[orchid hemlock]

🙄

[velvet storm]

get new ears

bozo

[orchid hemlock]

Or don't have 360 audio

[white minnow]

that's fine then

[sand zealot]

can't not enough money i got these ones on clearance

[orchid hemlock]

Idk tbh a lot of games don't give accessability to people with disabilities, it makes me sad 😔

A staple should be a color blind mode

All games should have one

[velvet storm]

Don't people have all kinds of different clolor blindness

Wouldn't it be different for everyone

[orchid hemlock]

With constant FOV do you just turn everything off?

[sand zealot]

ive seen games where they have different colorblind modes for people

[white minnow]

yeah i have every fov change turned off since i'm not a fan of it

including aiming down sights

since most engagements happen at close range

i have it turned off for sprinting as well cuz i do some movetech and it's a bit disorienting to have it change frequently

[orchid hemlock]

Depends but generally most color blindness filters just require something to differentiate reds and greens

[velvet storm]

Are there any mods that aren't allowed

[tall torrent]

At least for Nvidia graphics cards, you have Nvidia Control Panel which can be adjusted for colorblind modes

Not sure abt AMD cards

[orchid hemlock]

So just replacing those spectrums with other colors should help most people

[tall torrent]

That’s a system related setting

[white minnow]

if they don't affect other players (i.e. are client-side only) and aren't literal straight up cheats, then it's a-okay

the mod policy is pretty lenient

[velvet storm]

There are mods that can affect other players?

[white minnow]

yeah, though i can only think of just spamming voicelines

in terms of getting caught, you don't have to worry unless you just get reported anyways, since the anti-cheat is turned off

[orchid hemlock]

Sort of, I remember that the weapon custom mod can sometimes make you get different alt fires

[tall torrent]

Yea have you heard people say “cryonic rod” out of nowhere

[velvet storm]

no

[tall torrent]

[white minnow]

so the limits of the mods that you install are pretty much bounded by whether you get reported or by your morality

[velvet storm]

A lot of these mods should just be in the game normally

Like numeric ui, scoreboard and weapon customization

I think perspectives mod could be in too

[orchid hemlock]

Yeah but Fatshark is busy with ummm

Uh

Uhhh

Skulls 2024

[tall torrent]

First two yea

[white minnow]

they are one of the top 10 steam engines

they will discover combustion engines some day

[tall torrent]

Weapon customization I rly think only the sights matter lol

[orchid hemlock]

Inb4 driptide

😔

Driptide lit does nothing to make the game easier, but Fatshark won't greenlight it because it steals money from them

[north raptor]

theyre doing vtide versus and maps

[orchid hemlock]

We live in a Psykanium

[tall torrent]

VT2 has a smaller team than DT apparently

Because VT2 main content support is done

DT is in the fixing stage

[orchid hemlock]

DT team getting ready for the next update:

[stray storm]

For a combat knife would you rather pick Elite or Specialist damage?

[tall torrent]

Idk abt u but I liked this update

[tall torrent]

Elite

[north raptor]

eliteeeeeee

shoot the specs before they get close

[orchid hemlock]

Yes but after 8 months of nothing?

[north raptor]

they did carnival in december

the class overhaul in october

[tall torrent]

Didn’t they drop several updates starting from October last year

[north raptor]

yea

im content with darktide

[leaden hollow]

I’ve always liked Darktide a lot

[north raptor]

just fix lootn for shootn and moar enginseer

ALL enginseer ASMR

a whole mission

[orchid hemlock]

Idk I don't think it's enough, but then again they have been focusing in fixing the bugs since launch

[tall torrent]

It still has a long way to go

[sand zealot]

sorry if this is a dumb question, but what does "PA" mean on this?

[north raptor]

i get exactly the game experience i want from it tbh except the loot system

im content for now

[idle swallow]

Push Attack

[sand zealot]

i'm an idiot lol. thanks

[tall torrent]

Power sword is changed a bit due to bulwark health increase, ideally u want elite + maniac now (elite is priority)

Carapace & unyielding are ok

I’d prob swap carapace to elite

If you have BM on it @sand zealot

[sand zealot]

right now i have power cycler and sunder on it

[tall torrent]

It can use more maps & weapons on top of the much needed crafting overhaul
And they’re prob gonna release new class branches or archetypes eventually

[tall torrent]

Check how much dmg u do to crusher with empowered PA > L4

If it’s much higher than 1800 per hit then you might be able to drop carapace for elite

[north raptor]

i have about 5 builds per class except zealot which i havent learned yet—when i play i get into a blissful flow state of frantic efficiency

its great

im content

i love the dialogue and the map detail

i hate the loading times admittedly

and hadron

[hidden torrent]

4440 points

[north raptor]

but once she is reprogrammed

[hidden torrent]

holy

[north raptor]

content

[junior needle]

When obesefish releases their next game in like 5 years, they'll abandon it at launch and really start pumping out the content for darktide

It only gets better from here

[somber axle]

Hoping the big Warhammer Skulls event on the 23rd is when they drop info about new maps, new weapons and the crafting overhaul for Darktide

SOON...

[hidden torrent]

Also warno goes into full release on the 23rd too so

I'll have something to play

[tall torrent]

did they patch rogue trader's bug problems out

[rigid pilot]

They had 3 big patches

Nerfed officer

[tall torrent]

I heard it was super buggy at launch

is that better now or nah

[rigid pilot]

I played at launch

It was fine

Probably laot better now

[somber axle]

No idea. Tbh the only Warhammer game I play is Darktide but I have friends excited for Total War Warhammer III and Space Marine II

[tall torrent]

I saw TW3 and RT's price tag and decided that maybe I don't wanna play them that much

[somber axle]

A few of my friends play tabletop Warhammer and I always space out when they go off about it

But the figurines they paint are cool

[somber axle]

That's the same thought I had with tabletop. I found out the little figures come unassembled and unpainted, then saw the price and laughed my way to Darktide instead

People spending hundreds to thousands of dollars before their fav faction has an army with enough points to play is so hilarious but too goofy for this clown

[north raptor]

im waiting for better romances in rogue trader to play it

why cant i sleep with the space marine guys

wth

[somber axle]

Imagine spending all that money and then having to build and paint your toys yourself

Couldn't be me

[north raptor]

bg3 has a bear

[midnight totem]

You know

If you think about it

The monetization in Darktide is nothing compared to fucking tabletop

[somber axle]

Yes

Exactly

[tall torrent]

still not good

[north raptor]

biweekly outfits is not bad at all

[midnight totem]

Which is why I don't collect minis

No biweekly outfits suck ass

[somber axle]

It doesn't excuse or justify the pricing on Darktide but it does mean we can point and laugh at people too deep in their wallet trying to play tabletop

[serene bough]

warhammer tabletop lol

[north raptor]

look at diablo 4

whats the complaint on darktide actually?

[midnight totem]

But it does give us a tier of wh fans underneath us so

[north raptor]

that they refresh their cosmetics faster than their content?

[somber axle]

Cosmetic shop is kinda dumb tbh

[serene bough]

rotating shop gives FOMO and the price of cosmetics are kinda ridiculous

[somber axle]

I want to buy Krieg set and it hasn't been in rotation the entire time I've played since my return

[midnight totem]

I'm kinda glad I don't play Warframe as much as I used to

[serene bough]

20$ for a skin is crazy when you bought the game for 40$

[north raptor]

thats like an art department reskin team. maybe im just too normalized

[somber axle]

The rotating shop uses FOMO to make you buy something you may not see again

[north raptor]

im like eh

[midnight totem]

I'd probably have spent another 100 on cosmetic and prime access there

[velvet storm]

whats the different between the infantry and headhunter autogun

[midnight totem]

Hh fires in single shot or burst

[serene bough]

its an unpopular opinion but i dont care how they monetize it as long as they don't sell power

[north raptor]

diablo 4 has you pay money on a battle pass to let you TRY to make 70% of that money BACK (but only in their currency)

[midnight totem]

And has higher headshot multipliers

[north raptor]

as their fomo

darktide is chill

[somber axle]

I'd probably drop another $100 on Darktide tomorrow if they put up every single set that has ever been in rotation in a full shop rather than the rotating thing they do now

[serene bough]

blizzard cash shop format is downright theft

the things they monetize

[round jetty]

sometimes its hard to believe people in darktide are actual people and not just bots with player names

[tall torrent]

bad crafting itemization
bad crafting progression
need new weapons
need more maps
mission playlist sucks (not being to play the exact mission & modifier)
no solo offline play
no solo private lobby
cannot disable bots
broken spawns on certain maps
weapon & talent balance issues (veteran has loads of trap nodes)
performance issues (it's a very demanding game)
server instability (error 2014 lol)
slow server response speed (ghost input)
lack of customization settings (UI & graphics related)
FSR is badly implemented (low image quality)
FOMO cash shop with less-than-stellar cosmetics (no legacy tab where previously released skins are purchasable)
lacklustre "story" in levelling up
lore bits are hint-dropped outside of the actual game
and probably more

[north raptor]

so i dont like live service pricing generally AND THIS IS A GENUINE QUESTION—why does cosmetics FOMO feel different than like why chains cycle menus seasonally?

any marketing degrees here?

[orchid hemlock]

Boi I gotta tell you about this little thing they have been doing since 2002:

[round jetty]

yeah idk why people pay to play that game

itll always elude me

[serene bough]

subscription services are one thing

its archaic but it used to be accepted

[hearty panther]

It's not just 'FOMO'. I don't have the vernacular/expertise of someone in the field, but it's an intersection of two things.

1. "I might want this skin later, but it might not be available then."
2. You get more people to log-in and peruse shops with rotating items instead of having a single long-standing 'menu'.

[serene bough]

but buying a game + subscription + future expansions + cash shop + battle passes, gtfo

[hearty panther]

If every skin was available day one, yeah, you'd have some oddballs dropping $100 day one to buy the stuff they wanted, but they'll never come back to change their mind about other items.

[orchid hemlock]

You know that the mounts in the wow store has made more money than the past 3 expansion sales combined? 💀

[somber axle]

But if you break down both of those points they're both just FOMO but with longer explanations

[north raptor]

plus early access for 70 bucks

[hearty panther]

This is everywhere, by the way. Why do you think they seem to literally hide the menu board at fast food restaurants, lol

[serene bough]

im not surprised

[hearty panther]

Why is pumpkin spice, a syrup made with no pumpkins and zero seasonal ingredients, a seasonal only beverage?

[somber axle]

Ok but like I would kill for some right now

[hearty panther]

And that's the trap.

[north raptor]

i just asked this 😭 we EXPERIENCE it differently and validly and i dont know why

[hearty panther]

Cause you'll be at that door come September.

[orchid hemlock]

Artifical scarcity exists in all markets, it's just that gamers haven't experienced it due to the gaming market being very young 😔

[hearty panther]

With every white girl.

[north raptor]

and me

[last parcel]

and my axe

[serene bough]

i do love me some pumpkin spice

[somber axle]

Yes call me a mouse because I am headfirst into the trap when the door opens

[tall torrent]

I never got into the pumpkin spice craze

[serene bough]

i like to pick pumpkins sipping on my girly latte and ill fight and kill for that right

[tall torrent]

primarily because am broke

[north raptor]

maybe its because a coffee feels more substantial

[orchid hemlock]

Microtransactions: "wow this is predatory"

10000 of the same cereal boxes in the super market: "This is normal 🧍🏻"

[north raptor]

a skin feels more like you got enticed and then you regret it?

or more of a waste?

[serene bough]

i dont feel that way

[north raptor]

less honest of a market interaction?

[tall torrent]

depends on how much u like that skin

[north raptor]

i mean in general

[serene bough]

i bought a few skins bc i have disposable income

[hearty panther]

The reason the Chai Tea Latte is on every panel of every Starbucks isn't because it's a hot item, but because putting it on the board = 5-10% more sales on average per store and the drink costs 5.8 cents to make and is sold for $6.

[tall torrent]

and how much u actually use it

[hearty panther]

The less they show you the more you settle for what's available. And a lot of that is psychology you didn't know you even had.

[orchid hemlock]

Me with a $20 moka express st home saving literally thousands of dollars every year: 🤔

[somber axle]

Being broke never stopped me from being stupid in the past but now that I am no longer broke I can be stupid more frequently

[hearty panther]

"Oh, I don't want to go to X store today. They always have to same items so I will go when I want to." Congrats, that shop is now dead in a competitive environment.

[north raptor]

but why does one FEEL coercive

like Las Vegas

is it the additional price of the game?

[hearty panther]

Because you feel compelled to act like a consumer, because that's what everyone else does.

[crimson pebble]

Its a drip or drown world and i sadly drown in financial debt to stay dripped

[north raptor]

you dont pay an entry fee to go INTO starbucks etc

[serene bough]

in general, its about how much a game/market will prey on the worst vices of humanity

mobile games are a great example of this

[hearty panther]

That's the point, the FOMO is self-inflicted.

[tall torrent]

at least I rly like moebian 6th armor so am prob not buying armor cosmetics for a while
unless they drop a tempestus scion / heavy armor veteran skin

[hearty panther]

They don't actually blast you with "BUY IT NOW DUMBDUMB OR IT'LL BE GONE WHOOPSIE", you make all those conclusions yourself.

[tall torrent]

weapon skins > character skins

[north raptor]

excitement and satisfaction arent always vices—but feeling compelled is awful

[hearty panther]

The trick is to not think about it.

You have to literally be better.

Or they will just keep being worse.

They exist to make money. Their motivations are pretty transparent.

[north raptor]

theres no such thing as selfinflicted

only psychology being used

[tall torrent]

but ofc after 3 rotations of good weapon skins we get what we got today

[somber axle]

No matter how predatory Starbucks feels always remember there's a bigger rat in a bigger trap somewhere and that big rat is your big spender in Warhammer tabletop

[tall torrent]

welp

[north raptor]

embrace the buddha

[orchid hemlock]

Guys I have this brilliant idea, if you don't like how a game's business model is developing.

You don't give them money

[serene bough]

i just want coffee, man

[hearty panther]

no idiot you buy their game and then complain on their steam page

[orchid hemlock]

🤯

[hearty panther]

thats how you make real change

[orchid hemlock]

Holy shit ur right

[north raptor]

worked for sony

on helldivers

[somber axle]

The best way to get coffee is to get a nice coffee machine and brew it yourself for much cheaper

[hearty panther]

french press or die

[somber axle]

But for people who do not care just throw money at a coffee place

[hearty panther]

i do however make a mean flat white

[serene bough]

i have a subscription service where i get fresh roasted coffee beans every month

[last parcel]

me when i press french people

[serene bough]

if i cant french press though ill keurig

[north raptor]

i just take caffeine tablets

ya’ll are all fools

[orchid hemlock]

I'm just like those Destiny players that make 3 hour long documentaries on how shit the expansions are, but you check their YouTube page and it's just nothing but raids 💀

[crimson pebble]

Ogryn crushed beans

[north raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-money-bribe-dollar-dollar-bills-gif-17855289

[somber axle]

This is fine and how most people are but the problem is that those same people are upset when others spend money while they're not

[serene bough]

i prefer my coffee black

[north raptor]

we hate the things we most deeply connect to

[somber axle]

I just purchase trucker sludge and hook it up to an IV

[north raptor]

we resent the things we need

halp

LET CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD

[north raptor]

i drink soylent sometimes

[orchid hemlock]

Nah the problem is that instead of actually not giving them money, they make 20 clickbait videos to promote their social media platform 👌👌👌

[hearty panther]

But also on a personal level I'm pretty reticent to accept financial criticism about 'buying videogame skins' from losers on reddit when ive probably spent $100,000 so far in my lifetime financing philip morris for a useless addiction

[serene bough]

gaming is a pretty cheap hobby, overall

spent 60$ for the base game and gotten 1k hours of entertainment

[north raptor]

(i had to spend 50k out of pocket on medical bills last year)

[somber axle]

Like all social media you have to curate it. Block/mute/ban words and phrases until the things you don't want stay away and you mostly see just what you want to see. If you don't then you get the boomer Facebook pages full of fucked up nonsense 24/7

[north raptor]

im currently broke

[tall torrent]

depends on the game yea

[orchid hemlock]

Ur joking right?

[north raptor]

me? no

[hearty panther]

its comically cheap

[rigid pilot]

Video games is cheap

[hearty panther]

take the price of your computer, divide it by 5 or 10

[tall torrent]

if u compare gaming to stuff like drinking / smoking which are extremely common then yes it's a lot cheaper

[rigid pilot]

That's why gamers come from all walks of life

[hearty panther]

thats how much you spend per year on the equipment

[serene bough]

after you get past the initial investement of getting a PC, yeah its really cheap

[north raptor]

Pcs are cheap…. if you think of them as dollar/day or hour per use

if they last 4 years thats not bad

[serene bough]

60$ will barely buy me and my girlfriend dinner and drinks depending on where we go

[hearty panther]

i spent $40 on darktide and it got me 3,000 hours of entertainment

[north raptor]

like 1/6 of a coffee at starbucks

[orchid hemlock]

Addictions are always expensive, but I'm not sure if Gaming is considered "cheap"

[hearty panther]

in movie theatre terms that's roughly $850,000

[rigid pilot]

No one is saying gaming addiction though

[frank ether]

you can make it expensive for yourself but overall I agree, its a cheap hobby

[orchid hemlock]

I grew up on Domino boards since I was from a 3rd world country 🧍🏻

[north raptor]

whazzat domino?

[serene bough]

https://tenor.com/view/dominos-falling-gif-10390862

[hearty panther]

yeah but like

actually playing it

[orchid hemlock]

Like yall definition of "cheap" is beyond my comprehension ig

[frank ether]

I don't really rate social games on hours spent for value though, its a poor thought process

[hearty panther]

well the price of entry is admittedly a bit steep

but you get a lot of mileage

[serene bough]

it's relatively cheap

[hearty panther]

i spent $350 on my processor 11 years ago, so $30~ per year for a hobby?

[somber axle]

I mean like if you want to have literally THE next gen computer with all the fanciest parts then yeah it will cost you a bunch. I spent $4000 getting a best friend a top of the line new gaming computer and I can bet in under a year there will be something new released to outclass it. But it doesn't really matter if something new and better gets released in under a year because that gaming rig will carry her in gaming for the next 5-10 years easily

[tall torrent]

depends on the games u play but yea it's relatively much cheaper than most other hobbies

[rigid pilot]

It's cheaper than paying for human companionship

[orchid hemlock]

Like to put it into perspective the majority of people on the planet don't even have a single dollar in their bank account

[north raptor]

this is an interesting point yea. tbh morally nobody should have pcs, theyre luxuries, pay for catsract surgeries elsewhere and education in developing countries

[hearty panther]

on a sliding scale, your lightswitch is still black magic

[orchid hemlock]

So when I see people talk about "cheap" hobbies I think of simple sports, gym, reading, chess, cooking ect...

[rigid pilot]

🚥

[orchid hemlock]

Gaming is not even close to those

[serene bough]

thing is, those kinds of hobbies require communities in person to work, sans cooking

[hearty panther]

you'd be surprised what sports cost

[tall torrent]

chess has online

[terse idol]

I mean

[serene bough]

yeah thats true too

[terse idol]

Oh man this is gonna get complex

[north raptor]

i like you and youre right

[serene bough]

i forget people still play chess

[north raptor]

THE SHALLOW POND

AHHHHHHH

[frank ether]

there are a lot of games you could sunk 1000 hours into and its a complete waste of your time and if the argument is ''this 60$ game offers XXXX hours of gameplay'' but the gameplay is fucking soul eating grind and then the whole ''this is cheap / good value'' argument falls very flat.

[orchid hemlock]

Well "sports" for me when I was a kid was kicking a can around on a "field" and using 2 rocks as the "goal"

[terse idol]

In a purely utilitarian sense I mean yeah, we could choose to have litetally nothing

[somber axle]

Like most things the price tag is dependent on how deep you want to go into it. Casual gaming can be done very cheaply. There are lots of free to play games. Consoles are more affordable in general and even more-so if you pursue last generation + you'll have a wealth of cheap options to choose from too

[terse idol]

And support other countries

[north raptor]

should

[terse idol]

But foreign aid is actually pretty complex

[hearty panther]

ye there's a sliding scale there

[north raptor]

no it isnt

[terse idol]

Yes it is

[hearty panther]

but sports in like, school? as in with a team as an extracurricular? those parents spend five digits a year lmao

[serene bough]

not to mention $/hr somewhat throws single player story experiences under the rug

[somber axle]

But what a lot of people think of as proper gaming is pretty pricey

[terse idol]

When you donate to places affected by mass poverty the resources and especially money get split around

[north raptor]

schistosomiasis control initiative, fred hollows foundation, against malaria foundation

[terse idol]

Money doesn't reach those that actually need it

Sometimes

[orchid hemlock]

But the point is that, I don't think gamers sacrifice much not playing a single game

[somber axle]

I look at it as much cheaper than going out to bars/clubs frequently, drugs, ordering DoorDash on repeat like a food fiend, etc.

[orchid hemlock]

Since it's already a large investment in the first place

[somber axle]

There are far more expensive vices

[hearty panther]

incorrect, i must play all games simultaneously. which is why i will be implanting eighty-six of elon muskrats brain chips

[north raptor]

ANYWAY

[terse idol]

You could he spending money on warhammer ttrpg

[hearty panther]

just fire them out of a cannon right into my butthole and into the brain

[north raptor]

we are all sullied in the capitalist order

[frank ether]

Absolutely, I've spent like 5 hours playing titanfall campaign and still remember it vividly like half a decade later, meanwhile I leveled up to max in new world at its release and all I remember is ''god please when will this end''

[terse idol]

[terse idol]

Real

[north raptor]

like indian girls being forced to get hysterectomies so they can harvest soybeans longer without periods

everything that you look into becomes horror

[orchid hemlock]

Gamers when you tell them to stop playing a game if they don't enjoy or morally agree with their practices:

[terse idol]

(I mean if we want to complain about hobbies I can just look at golf and see the environmental impact golf courses take)

[somber axle]

Bro what

[north raptor]

LET CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD

[terse idol]

For the cost of going into golf

[north raptor]

hidden within all things is crime and sin

[terse idol]

Huh?

[serene bough]

its a large investment initially, but afterwards its an investment that pays dividends as long as you're interested in gaming

[north raptor]

thats what $ means

so i like lasguns

[terse idol]

Lasguns aight

[somber axle]

Yeah lasguns are my fav

[orchid hemlock]

Idk to me, when sometimes I would starve for days at a time to wait on my parent's paycheck. I don't think it's that much of a sacrifice to..... Stop playing a video game 💀

[somber axle]

If I want bullet guns there are a lot of other games that have more bullet guns

[terse idol]

Financial differences are a problem

[somber axle]

Gimme las

[terse idol]

And video games for plenty of people are an escape

It's why console gaming is cheaper

[serene bough]

I mean yeah, if you're family is struggling paycheck to paycheck its probably not a good idea to build a 5k$ gaming rig

[tall torrent]

it's really not

[terse idol]

Like I mean, I argued this for a while but if you want economical gaming consoles are somewhat cheaper

[terse idol]

[tall torrent]

it's lower bar of entry but all the online subscription bs adds up to be higher than pc gaming costs

[terse idol]

I guess next-gen gaming has gotten

Alot worse

[north raptor]

i hope that never happens to your family again

[frank ether]

only the hardware really, and even that becomes not a good deal in a few years as PC catches up

[terse idol]

Since some games you can only play MP

[somber axle]

Just wait until next Gen becomes last Gen and see the price drop

[serene bough]

if your economic situation is stable, and you can invest 2-3k$ on a computer that will last multiple years, it's not bad all things considered

[orchid hemlock]

No what I don't understand is that people complain about video game company practices right?

So the best way to force them to change is to simply not buy their products.

[terse idol]

It's a moot point

[somber axle]

Stuff that is selling for a premium for early access inevitably goes on sale at a big discount a year later

[tall torrent]

plus console just has less available games than pc

[terse idol]

Considering

How many millions of people buy games

[orchid hemlock]

That's just pure Pessimism then 💀

[terse idol]

So the best thing we can do while we consume is to well complain

I mean

[orchid hemlock]

Why bother complaining in the first place then?

[terse idol]

Abit?

[north raptor]

QUICK! to the 5 mistakes in moral mathematics!!!

[hearty panther]

No, for the love of God, jsut stop consuming.

It's literally that easy.

[serene bough]

gamers are the kind of people to bad mouth and bemoan a game for days, hours, even years... yet still invest thousands of hours after purchasing premium cosmetics, unfortunately

[orchid hemlock]

I'm a fatass

[somber axle]

I'd say console has worse quality too. Less quality, less quantity. Unless you want exclusives why even go console at all? You can even just use controllers with PC for the games that support controllers anyway

[orchid hemlock]

😔

[hearty panther]

You're a WHALE

[orchid hemlock]

Tru

It's in my DNA 😔

[serene bough]

orcas are dolphins, technically

[north raptor]

so i think most people feel disempowered—even estranged—from their ability to affect things and therefore from choices and agency, because of the size of these markets

[hearty panther]

porpoise?

[terse idol]

If what you said is right

[hearty panther]

something

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/dracula-cum-chalice-gif-20148815

[terse idol]

Like

Oh there's alot

[tall torrent]

playstation has had a couple bangers and that's it
Xbox mostly been silent in their releases
meanwhile pc is eating good

[terse idol]

If what you said was right

Then EA would be out of competition

[north raptor]

the question is—DOES in fact my individual choice make no difference?

[terse idol]

Considering new Fifas are clones of old fifa

[orchid hemlock]

We are Cetacians, get it right 🤓

[terse idol]

But folks still buy it every single year

[north raptor]

BEHOLD: the HARMLESS TORTURERS, a classic thought experiment in philosophy

[tall torrent]

fifa players are not real human beings

[serene bough]

true

[somber axle]

Bloodborne and Final Fantasy 16 are the two on Playstation I am eyeing most and if I had more time to game I would 100% own a PS5 and have them

[frank ether]

when wasn't PC eating good aside from mining bonanza era

[terse idol]

I think it's complicated than

Domt buy it

Who suffers

The devs

Who doesn't

The ceos

[north raptor]

1000 people press a button, each inflicting an imperceptible pain on a subject. no single agent creates a difference. but ALL TOGETHER will kill the subject when 1000 buttons are pressed

[terse idol]

The guys who don't really care if they gotta fire a hundred people

[somber axle]

Exclusives are the only reason to even look at consoles imo

[terse idol]

To make a profit

[tall torrent]

depends on the genres u play

[north raptor]

if 1000 is too small, make it 1 million.

[serene bough]

im so glad i didnt become a game developer

[north raptor]

who, then, killed the man?

[terse idol]

Indie dev is fine

[serene bough]

such a volatile market to have a job in

[terse idol]

Or mobile market

[terse idol]

When halo 3 was at it's peak

No halo on pc

[north raptor]

check out a famous essay called the 5 mistakes in moral mathematics by derek parfit

[orchid hemlock]

I think that for most of things we need like food or basic ammedities, yeah this is a troll demand.

Imagine telling someone who lives in Compton to spend 500% more money on "organic products" 🧍🏻

But for video games, I feel like it's such a gap

[somber axle]

And Xbox just has nothing of value anymore unless you like FIFA, CoD or Madden. I'd say Forza but like when was the last time Forza was relevant?

[hearty panther]

"one death is a tragedy. a million is my breakfast." - iosef stalinski or someone idk

[frank ether]

thats true, Its been a dark time for pvp fps games, but thats nothing new, its been a growing problem for decades with rise of cheating and crossplay games that are more and more controller/aim assist catered, meanwhile if you're an RTS fan consoles don't even offer you anything worth your time while PC has all the classics lmao

[somber axle]

Halo Infinite is on PC so Xbox can't even claim that

[orchid hemlock]

Sorry I only play QUAKE in my high-school library 👌

[frank ether]

Thats funny because they killed the PC playerbase for that beyond repair

its not like a helldiver situation, its the opposite

[hearty panther]

I have people almost daily come into the store I work to buy something, and then they gawk at the price.
"Augh! They raised the prices again? When does it end?"
"When you stop coming here."
"Well I think it's unfair."
"Yep. See you tomorrow."
And nothing changes.

[frank ether]

they released a terrible PC port on a pvp fps game that heavily favours controllers to begin with

[somber axle]

Halo Infinite was doomed from the start. Just play Master Chief Collection like any smart Halo fan

[orchid hemlock]

What do u sell?

[hearty panther]

fukken starbucks coffee

[orchid hemlock]

🤦🏻‍♂️

[hearty panther]

exactly

so multiply that by the entire world economy

and here we are

[orchid hemlock]

Starbucks is literally a hyper scam

[hearty panther]

the pinnicle of human society

[frank ether]

I mean yeah, you're not wrong

people been complaining about blizzard for years now

same ppl buy their games

every year

[terse idol]

Eh

Its value and consoomer worth

[junior needle]

Spent $40 and it's gotten me about that many hours of disappointment

[frank ether]

mimimimi complain complain complain and then the same moron preorders diablo 4 as if fuck all would change

[somber axle]

I used to be a Blizzard addict. Shadowlands finally made me quit and I have never looked back

[tall torrent]

pvp fps is actually kinda dull rn
only games that looked interesting to me are battlebit and the finals

[terse idol]

Aww shadowlands was alright imo

[serene bough]

which one was shadowlands

[tall torrent]

but I don't rly enjoy pvp anymore

[orchid hemlock]

I used to be a mythic player in WOW

[midnight totem]

I quit Blizzard after StarCraft 2

[frank ether]

nah he moved on from milking blizzard soyjack audience, he's farming on that incel cashcow now

[somber axle]

I'm a lore fiend and it destroyed the parts I loved in irreparable ways I cannot explain here because it'd be a novel

[midnight totem]

And I loved StarCraft 2

[orchid hemlock]

Mythic raids

Looking back I realized how much money I wasted on the subs

[frank ether]

I agree those two are like the only two pvp fps games I consider worth booting up these days

[junior needle]

Another soul reclaimed from metzens golden throne

[frank ether]

battlebit was more fun when it was a lot of milsim dadgamers though

with the open mic spam

it was really funny

I mean its still so funny

I get russian gopniks scream at me whenever I kill them, its great .d

[somber axle]

I was literally subscribed from Vanilla era all the way through every xpac up to and including Shadowlands. I stuck through most of Shadowlands but that xpac broke me in ways that cannot be fixed

[junior needle]

The power of absolute dogshit writing

Truly abysmal

[orchid hemlock]

He is an reactuber that spreads misinformation on "gaming"

[serene bough]

i dont even remember which one shadowlands is

[orchid hemlock]

INSANE

[serene bough]

is that the newest one

[orchid hemlock]

No

[frank ether]

Could you stop flashing me with this guys soypog faces pls lmao gkdsgg

[orchid hemlock]

Mb ill censor it

[frank ether]

I don't even want to interact with any of this last time I clicked on one of his videos my yt feed was full of his bickering

[junior needle]

I heard that but I watched a few videos and he actually does try to verify whether things are true

[orchid hemlock]

Nah he's too busy pressing the pause and play button

[junior needle]

You do have to do that if you want to opine

[hearty panther]

oh shit hades patch

i do not notice a difference with sprint

[frank ether]

I'm dodging hades 2 spoilers like I have iframes

[orchid hemlock]

Oh shit don't mention Hades on r/gaming

[junior needle]

Don't mention anything on reddit

[orchid hemlock]

They still complaining about Hestia 💀

[hearty panther]

oh i see what they did

who the fuck wastes their time listening to Gamers

this is much snappier, dang

[orchid hemlock]

It's impossible at this point I get notifications from my phone on Twitter

I don't even use Twitter

[serene bough]

good life advice is to avoid taking opinions from twitter and reddit

[orchid hemlock]

My phone literally installs it without my permission

[tiny summit]

The dude that had a cockroach crawl on them on their stream and didn't clean his shower because he liked the smell of bbq sauce it gave must have good opinions.

[serene bough]

i try avoiding such things

i have insta & discord but thats about it

[orchid hemlock]

r/gaming when a colored person is in a video game:

[tall torrent]

The newest discourse is AC shadows having yasuke as a playable main character lol

I just don’t bother with these anymore

[tiny summit]

I've had to mute so many people

[tall torrent]

Mainly cuz I’m not getting these games on launch anyway

[tiny summit]

Such a shame. Cool idea of a game yet it's a ubisoft game

[tall torrent]

It could be good, I’m just not gonna get it at launch

3~4 years from now it’s gonna be on a big sale and I’ll grab by then

[orchid hemlock]

Isn't Yasuke a literal real person

[tiny summit]

Oh it could be. Ubisoft just doesn't bring my hopes up. But yea...ubisoft games discount quickly

[orchid hemlock]

That existed

[tiny summit]

Yes

[somber axle]

Nostalgia goggles and sunk cost fallacy kept me through a lot of bad spots. I hated WoD writing. I hated BfA writing. I thought Cataclysm was dumb as hell. But Shadowlands was so awful in so many ways (writing included) after such a bad string of xpacs and bitterness that I couldn't huff the copium anymore LOL

[tiny summit]

If humble bundle follows trends, I'll get it in eventually

[somber axle]

Oh whoops meant to reply to Soldier 69 LOL

[tall torrent]

Yes and people hate the fact that the main character in Japan setting is a real black person that existed (they apparently ignored that there’s a 2nd playable character who is Japanese and is a female shinobi)

[serene bough]

what game is this?

[tiny summit]

Silly you. Women aren't people to them

[tall torrent]

New AC

[last parcel]

darude sandstorm

[orchid hemlock]

AC shadows

[serene bough]

whats AC

armored core?

[tiny summit]

Animal Crossing Shadows

[tall torrent]

The only thing I don’t like about this is that this is like the 3rd (4th?) entry where the guy is the warrior archetype and the girl is the stealth assassin archetype

[hollow ibex]

Oh wait they made it so a foreign samurai or whatever is the main character? Oof

[tall torrent]

Yasuke, a black person in feudal Japan

[hollow ibex]

Did Netflix produce this game?

[serene bough]

i dont think animal crossing and race politics among samurai are a matching theme

[tall torrent]

There’s a 2nd main character who’s a female shinobi

But ofc people ignore that

[tall torrent]

Assassin’s creed

[terse idol]

Oh real

[hollow ibex]

Yeah but not everybody is going to want to play as a female ninja

[serene bough]

oh right assasins creed

[tall torrent]

I just don’t enjoy this sort of character dynamic

[terse idol]

I'm a gameplay guy, light on lore.
And shadowlands was when they finally toned the numbers down

[hollow ibex]

Here I was looking forward to making a character that looks like me

[terse idol]

My man

[hollow ibex]

Guess that's not happening

Cool

[terse idol]

Yasuke

Was a real guy

Like i was hype

[last parcel]

turn yourself into a black samurai

[hollow ibex]

I know that lol

[hollow ibex]

Id get canceled if I tried

[terse idol]

Because I liked the Nobunaga stuff

People when ape shit

Even though it's the closest assassin creeds gets to using a historical figure

[tall torrent]

Yea I get that for some people
At least for me if I can choose to play as a guy then I’m going to play as a guy 100% the time

[radiant chasm]

You can be a black samurai

[junior needle]

Indeed, Yasuke was a real person. Although his real world status has been uh, very exaggerated because of it.

[radiant chasm]

You just have to follow the traditions and not mock them

[hollow ibex]

Not irl 😭

[somber axle]

I gave away my Bnet account to a younger sibling who still played Overwatch and Diablo IV. Friends have been poking me about if/when I will return considering Metzen is back and the new xpacs WoW announced but I can't go back because WoW ate so much time that I do not have in my life anymore. Even if I wanted to, I physically cannot. That game is basically a second job LMFAO

[radiant chasm]

Ohh

[last parcel]

cancel them back with katana

[radiant chasm]

I see

[junior needle]

He was apparently not a samurai but a retainer, and not for very long.

[tall torrent]

Yea it’s been heavily debated

[hollow ibex]

Still a cool story ig

[radiant chasm]

Retainers are samurai/correction retainers can be samurai

[tall torrent]

Pop culture sorta mythified him

[junior needle]

Not necessarily

[hollow ibex]

I think he'd be cool to have as a character but as the MC? Ehhhh

[tiny summit]

Seems like a dumb point to hang onto about retainer vs samurai

[junior needle]

A samurai can be a retainer

But a retainer can be "hold me stuff and make me look important" role

[hollow ibex]

Samurai is a specific type of retainer I guess

[terse idol]

I mean considering Nobunaga wasn't like a traditional shogun in that sense... or lesder I forgot the term

A retainer can be a samurai

[radiant chasm]

Whether what he was exactly it is irrelevant tbh, he is popular and assassins creed isnt known for historical accuracy

[terse idol]

It isn't a specific kind, a retainer goes to war like a solider
Samurais are soldiers

[radiant chasm]

But he’s already been portrayed as a samurai many times

[orchid hemlock]

It's kinda insane that people think a single colored personal is "political" but completely miss the satire in games like Helldivers 💀

[terse idol]

Yeah

[tall torrent]

I just don’t enjoy the stereotype where the male MC is the warrior archetype and the female MC is stealth

[terse idol]

Yeah, media literacy dead

[hollow ibex]

That is also an odd decision

[orchid hemlock]

Helldivers LITERALLY is a satire of American Nationalism

[tall torrent]

If anything I want a game where the male MC is stealth focus and female MC is warrior

[radiant chasm]

“Why don’t they make a game set in africa, wdym egypt is in africa?”

[tall torrent]

Cuz the stereotype where male MC is warrior has been done like 3~4 times in the series lol

[hollow ibex]

Why tie the playstyle to gender at all

[radiant chasm]

Yea

[terse idol]

I mean if I wanted to be anal about it, ninjas didn't exist
They were spys

[radiant chasm]

There is def faults like that

[orchid hemlock]

If you switch "element 710" upside down it spells Oil

[radiant chasm]

I have a feeling this is going to flop for ubisoft reasons

[tall torrent]

With that said tho
AC origins is really good

[radiant chasm]

And then the worst people in the world will use it as an excuse to maximum their racism

[terse idol]

So like why is the women a ninja, when ninjas didn't fucking exist outside the western lense

[radiant chasm]

Naruto xd

Like, they dont exist outside the western lense

[orchid hemlock]

The automotoms and the refferces to Vietnam are almost identical

[tiny summit]

That's my assumption. Cool news. Cool trailer. It's also a ubisoft game. I have zero hype

[radiant chasm]

It’s just they’ve been changed literally by the culture they came from

[hollow ibex]

AAAA game dude

[radiant chasm]

Romanticized

[hollow ibex]

You should be hyped

[radiant chasm]

Just like America and cowboys

[terse idol]

If people are gonna apply "well Yasuke wasn't really a samurai"
Well the other MC doesn't exist because ninjas don't exist in the sense that west portrays them

[tall torrent]

A good ninja is one where you don’t hear stories about, basically

[tiny summit]

I've been excited to dig in Dread Delusion which looks like PS1 game

[terse idol]

Yeah, I mean kinda
They were just spies, cortisans people who gathered intelligence

And sometimes assassin's...

Which I mean maybe I'll be a goober and put this as part of my argument because I'm just angry that people DONT want yasuke

[terse idol]

But people are fine with literally Ninjas, wearing black and climbing walls and shit

[tiny summit]

There's gonna be a scene in AC Shadows that is incredibly tone deaf and look incredibly bad

[serene bough]

ninjas are lame

[orchid hemlock]

People are OK with Orientalism

🧠

[terse idol]

Lord forbid people like read history

It's a lost skill

[tall torrent]

AC is not historically accurate anyway

[terse idol]

Never was

It's just people will push "woke culture killed ac"

To death

[radiant chasm]

people were fine when a welsh MC was in the Caribbean

[junior needle]

Accounts of history seems to be a very malleable thing, given how much the wikipedia article for Yasuke has been edited in the past day or so

[radiant chasm]

and Nioh

fuckin Nioh exists xd

[orchid hemlock]

Inb4: "it's always the Templars fault"

[tall torrent]

In AC origins’ campaign, you play as Bayek and solo the entire Ptolemaic army

Didn’t happen irl

[radiant chasm]

they can't say what they want to say so they say a replacement word like DEI protagonist

[somber axle]

I quit Assassin's Creed after Revelations tbh. Ezio saga was all I ever cared about. I'm sure Connor is cool. Black Flag is something friends hyped up. But Ezio was the one I loved and he is gone. Also the Desmond scenes were stupid LOL

[tall torrent]

Highly recommend Unity, Black Flag and Origins

[orchid hemlock]

Probably the most disgusting one was AC3 when a Native American sided with the colonists 💀

[frank ether]

It looks cool

[somber axle]

Black Flag is the one I am sorta interested in trying if I ever get through my backlog of games

[tall torrent]

Personally Origins is the highest for me because that game was almost everything I wanted it to be

[radiant chasm]

the tyranny of king washington

[tall torrent]

Especially Origins’ 2 expansions

[trim steppe]

I preordered the Black Flag collector's edition for the Xbox One, and then I never bought an Xbox One lmao. Still sitting there in its box

[orchid hemlock]

Washington: Genocides the Ohio river valley

Connor: yoo this guy is chill

[somber axle]

Assassin's Creed Brotherhood was my fav. Also idk which game it was but I loved collecting like 100 feathers from all sorts of silly parkour puzzles just to earn a cape that makes guards attack me on sight at all times LMFAO

[tiny summit]

The last AC I actually went to buy was Brotherhood. All others have been through humble bundle or it was included in a bundle like the Xbox one that came with Unity and Black Flag

Or PC Unity when Ubisoft gave it away when that church burned

[somber axle]

Ubisoft fascinates me

I am eternally confused on how they haven't killed themselves from poor decision making

[orchid hemlock]

Ironically their best selling product atm is For Honor 💀

Other than siege

[midnight totem]

For Honor was fun

it was just a fighting game and Ubisoft balance doesn't know what to do with a fighting game

[radiant chasm]

poorer consumer decision making

[somber axle]

I always forget stupidity is universal when it comes to things like this. If something is stupid and somehow still alive, it is probably being kept alive by something just as, if not more, stupid

[hearty panther]

"Year 10 of Siege is totally gonna be the biggest ever." - Man who said the same thing since Year 4

[midnight totem]

oh, Sneaky, I watched the pilot to Digital Circus and I understand the memes now

and the existential dread

[somber axle]

For a moment I thought Ubisoft was owned by some rich kid connected to daddy's generational blood money who could fail upwards no matter how many times they sink

But it's probably just dumber customers propping them up

[somber axle]

YESSSSSSS

EPISODE 2 IS OUT

MY HEART IS BROKEN

I want more

I bought the Pomni, Jax and Caine plushies. I also got the Pomni animatez figurine and the Digital Circus Poster

I 100% plan on buying up the whole set of plushies to display in my room now that I've cleared enough space for them

[tiny summit]

You see poor decisions, the average consumer which are the population that keeps games afloat see some of the most time value vs price ratio games

[somber axle]

I understand poor decision making because I have made and continue to plan on making more. I was just hyped over Digital Circus plushies but at least that's something I enjoy that isn't disappointing me

[hidden torrent]

what difficulty do people die on the most but not leave

[tall torrent]

damnation

[hidden torrent]

bro what

[tall torrent]

was legit playing single player

they got no wounds

[tiny summit]

Damnation as the highest difficulty is unironically a filter for the people that would just leave malice/heresy

[tall torrent]

down, die, I revive them, they go die again, repeat

[hidden torrent]

i need wars not over 5

[tiny summit]

People leave in damnation but there's plenty of shitters leaving in malice/heresy

[hidden torrent]

like 10 more revives

[woeful ibex]

are they doing the penance?

I remember some people would do "No deaths" run for Auric

[tall torrent]

not sure what penance they're going for that involves them dying repeatedly against common horde

[hidden torrent]

I don't care if someone leaves tbh I just need to rescue captured men

[woeful ibex]

My guess it might be Flawless Execution or Untouchable Operative?

[tall torrent]

neither of them involve them dying repeatedly lol

[woeful ibex]

ah nvm

[hollow ibex]

pov: the teammates you get while grinding for ASS

[chilly saddle]

When you queue into auric maelstrom and two veterans on your team have the “got your first character to level 30” frame and you die rescuing them for the 6th time in the first third of the mission playing like a master

[somber axle]

Damnation quickplay yes

[hidden torrent]

no thats not real

[midnight totem]

I could sense your desperation

[somber axle]

It is because I was in it LMFAO

[hidden torrent]

scripted content

how 144

thats more than 2 a minute

almost 3

[somber axle]

I joined into it mid-match and the other three squadmates were dying so much that I had to hard carry and clutch it out solo a LOT. By the end I was curious how many deaths we had. There must have been some mistake because even I don't believe it was THAT many. But wow did those players play as though they were trying to feed their souls to the Emperor somehow

[midnight totem]

I'll be honest Perell, I have quit out of those games like

"I'm not going to try to carry these people"

[bitter turtle]

i never quit

shitty games are fun

[somber axle]

I feel that but every time I see a group of new players I fight harder trying to protect them

[hidden torrent]

thats some cooked shot

shit

i wish I got that

i need penance

[midnight totem]

True

Occasionally I'm like

Eh, I need 80 or so more rescues for the penance

Let's do this

[hidden torrent]

i need 10

[trim steppe]

We're getting there folks

[midnight totem]

Nah, if they make an effort, or legit just bad luck, I make an effort

[hidden torrent]

when 7 gunners walk out of spawn and I have 0 dodges left

[trim steppe]

I've still only collected like 1 martyr skull

[somber axle]

I had a recent Hab Dreyko that was terrifying. Three players, one a Zealot level 26 and a Veteran level 20. The other Ogryn was level 30 but played like he was a fresh level 30. The mission was brutal. We only had 11 deaths but I had to fight tooth and nail to protect them start to finish. Most of those deaths happened at the flesh tree poisoning. The final segment running to the drop ship was agonizingly slow. They kept going down, I kept taunting and picking them up. We got to the pipe and I witnessed true despair: a squad of Maulers charging down the narrow pipe at us. We had all sorts of bullshit behind us. Other Ogryn went dead on 1 wounds. Zealot got pounced by a hound. Veteran was literally spraying his fucking shredder autopistol in a panic. I hit Taunt and typed "run survive get to the dropship" at the Vet while the maulers fucking hammered my Ogryn into the dirt

[pseudo fiber]

You're like really ahead then you got this

[somber axle]

I died to make sure that Vet got on the dropship

[midnight totem]

At least he made it

[somber axle]

And it was the best moment I've ever had on Ogryn

[midnight totem]

You did your duty clowogryn

[hidden torrent]

anyone else type in discord mid game?

or just me

[midnight totem]

Protocol 3: protect the sah

[pseudo fiber]

I think a funny thing back when people were helldivin was when I came back to darktide and people wanted everyone to extract. Like no there is no bonus let em die!

[somber axle]

I love them and would die for them all over again should I ever meet any of them again in quickplay

[midnight totem]

I usually go for no one left behind

except this archivum run yesterday

[trim steppe]

I only do that when I'm on my Ogryn. Save da little uns

[pseudo fiber]

I do understand that however my objection in that situation was it was absolutely fucked

4 more missions and I'm officially redeemed

[somber axle]

Ogryn has a way of making you want to protect your team at all costs

Tauntgryn forever

Skullcrusher and Taunt are so strong

[bitter turtle]

oh my god

finally getting to play knife vet again

literally euohoria

after being forced to play fucking ogryn and psyker for the past week

also i ended up liking taunt, not for protecting ppl funnily enough

just as a very huge stagger

horde of rager coming at you, just taunt to stagger and then mk5 shovel BM oneshot like 5 of them at once

ogryn has it too easy

bull rush is like

idk

feels annoying half the time when it just spreads enemies out from knocking them over

[trim steppe]

Thats the realization that made me like it during patch 13 as well. Its just the giant aeo stagger that can stop anything

[sinful swallow]

Currently going through psyker for first time and I'd been playing since launch

[frank ether]

I think ogryn is fine

[sinful swallow]

Shits kinda wack and I keep itching to go back to vet or zeal

[frank ether]

its designed for lower skill ceiling as a class and I'm fine with that

psyker I can not bring myself to enjoy much

but gonna have to play for penances probably

[pseudo fiber]

i like gunker

ah wait that's vet again

[frank ether]

gunker is fun

its like exe vet but better

[pseudo fiber]

may the missionboard be in my favour

[frank ether]

you're almost free

I still have so much to grind

[sinful swallow]

I'm trying to stay away from it and play a more traditional psyker but

I know it's a really bad ability to take but I REALLY like kinetic flayer

[last parcel]

Made a fire build. Auric noobs keep rushing ahead like it's a race though https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9c0f9b82-3542-4910-b443-80a7ec5a9bb5

[midnight totem]

kinetic flayer is fun

[pseudo fiber]

I'm pretty sure I asked this yesterday but do the twins count as torrent missions?

[midnight totem]

no

[bitter turtle]

You asked when we were playing

[midnight totem]

... I'm like 99 percent sure they don't

[bitter turtle]

Path(numbercat) said yeah

I have no idea though

https://i.gyazo.com/212419b90a07794ffde9278e069cdc48.jpg

👻

thanks for the help yesterday to finish those twins one again btw

[pseudo fiber]

oh it was np a breath of fresh air compared to fucking sedation

[bitter turtle]

tim eto quit darktide

https://i.gyazo.com/a341ab384c4bc16ef65836f25b795784.jpg

amazing

now to go back to krieg until they add the actual traitor helm+masks

[pseudo fiber]

you wanna do 2 twins

[bitter turtle]

Sure

to check if they work?

[pseudo fiber]

gimme a minute

finishing up my 9th silo cluster of today

[bitter turtle]

lol

[pseudo fiber]

I'm gonna have a nightmare about this damn mission

[paper brook]

Any idea what would be causing my game to crash whenever I try to switch to spectate another player in my game when I'm dead? I have mods installed yes, but I'm not sure which one is causing it and I'm unable to figure anything out using the crash log

[pseudo fiber]

which mods might be like weapon customisation or smth if you got that

[bitter turtle]

wep customization consistently has been the only thing that sometimes make the game unstable for me

so id start there ig

[pseudo fiber]

What's your number so I can invite you

[bitter turtle]

not a lot mind you

but whenever there is a problem

its usually that one

0554066126

[pseudo fiber]

I used weapon customisation then realised it's main selling point was sights on hellbore. Thought "I don't like that gun." and deleted it

[last parcel]

it's probably weapon customization. gras just pushed a new version that hopefully fixes it

[bitter turtle]

main sellping point for mei s making cool gun

https://i.gyazo.com/259ce2e0af974bbc1efa8ae3727c3b53.png

[hidden torrent]

Weapon customization always caused my crashes, I un-installed it and don't get them anymore really

[bitter turtle]

beautiful

[hidden torrent]

That's disgusting and horribly cursed

[craggy ridge]

How long has the fast varient lasgun been FUN AS HELL?

[hidden torrent]

Even now still never

[sinful swallow]

I know this one

Weird bug with your version of extended wep customization

New version has a fix for it on discord, not sure if on Nexus yet

[craggy ridge]

RUDE

[last parcel]

he uploaded it a few hours ago

[sinful swallow]

Nice

[hidden torrent]

Still strongest

[somber axle]

Do you mean the Kantrael Mk IV, the Helbore Mk II, the Laspistol Mk II or the Recons?

Because yes, always, to all of them

[sinful swallow]

True shock trooper Chad gang where you guys at

[last parcel]

i even take shock trooper on my brauto builds

[craggy ridge]

MG IV, yeah. Been getting really into the 'default ass veteran' playstyle

[pseudo fiber]

Alright testing done twins do count as a torrent mission completion for the 50

[paper brook]

I know Nexus has a new update, although not sure if it's as up to date as the one on discord

[sinful swallow]

It id

Is

[somber axle]

That one is really fun. It taught me to play guns that people say are bad instead of just believing what people say

[last parcel]

people are liars

[somber axle]

And I am really gullible so that lesson isn't going to stick

[bitter turtle]

i dont think anyone says mg4 is bad no>?

most ppl say 12 is the bad one now

since its just a clunkier 1

[paper brook]

That's what I thought

[craggy ridge]

12 definitely feels kinda stinky actually. The other two - especially with DA and HH - are amazing

[pseudo fiber]

I don't think I've ever seen anyone use the 4 though

[bitter turtle]

mg4 has t he "i pretend im recon" quality to it

[somber axle]

They're all good dogs Bront

[sinful swallow]

1 hits basically same breakpoints

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/get-blown-up-dog-dog-explosion-sticky-notes-gif-17071604041793579031

[hidden torrent]

God I want the vacuum capsule mod so fucking bad

I was going to say what I'd do for it but the feds will print it out

[pseudo fiber]

It is done

[bitter turtle]

the suffering is over

[pseudo fiber]

Genuinely huge thank you those last few missions were so tiring playing with someone else made it much more bareable

[bitter turtle]

lol

no prob

you helped me yesterday too

30 points is a lot at this point for me

now time to quit DT

jk

[pseudo fiber]

done dusted

I'm gonna take a break

lmfao

[bitter turtle]

ye same

lol

[pseudo fiber]

maybe not this game is like crack

[bitter turtle]

well

[last parcel]

STICKY SURPRISE

[pseudo fiber]

Oh that sounded bad

[bitter turtle]

its probably less tedious

now that I can actually play what i want

and not gunlugger ogryn with m1 taped down

[hidden torrent]

I have like 5 more to do and I'll be done, and thankfully I have someone enjoyable to play with or I would've game ended by now in minecraft

[fluid gust]

PSA: the penance for killing enemies at 10 stacks or above of Marksman's Focus does not differentiate between melee or ranged kills. Take the node that increases stacks when crouched and you can go to town on a horde with a melee weapon while crouching.

[pseudo fiber]

that one was so boring but I got a lot of psykers when I played

[bitter turtle]

ya

we've been suggesting in this channel

[pseudo fiber]

speedrunning missions on your own in silence will start to drive you mad

[bitter turtle]

just t crabwalk and stab

[hidden torrent]

It's still in silence but I atleast laugh with the person I have to play with

Because holy shit I'd lose it

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/wet-eggplant-gif-24804423

[hidden torrent]

I just want cool guy armor so people feel safe when I play Ogryn

[hidden torrent]

Fuck you I never lose

[last parcel]

ok virgin

[bitter turtle]

the sad part is

[pseudo fiber]

Now do silo cluster 150000 times

[bitter turtle]

i got it

but im not even gonna use it rn

i dont like hte look w/o the actual dataminend helm+mask ones

lol

[hidden torrent]

I never lost my virginity because I never lose

[pseudo fiber]

Is there more than just the ogryn one or no?

I can play damnation again yay

[bitter turtle]

not sure

i only saw ss of the ogryn one

multiple actually

different camos

[hidden torrent]

Im about to get a jawxercise ball to use when I play darktide

That way I can deal with petting aggression

[rigid pilot]

A what ball

[pseudo fiber]

enemy density I missed you

[hidden torrent]

You don't know what jawxcersice is?

[rigid pilot]

I only know what spiral fitness is

[hidden torrent]

What the fuck is that

[pseudo fiber]

I have an idea on how they're gonna update the penance track / path of redemption in the future

because they said they'll update it and

https://tenor.com/view/soobfad-druski-gif-25646977

I'll trust them

[woeful ibex]

its our battlepass

new content means new achievements and more bullshit numbers

[pseudo fiber]

anyway sorry was mid mission

[rigid pilot]

Nice

[pseudo fiber]

500 more points so max it 5000

5000 reward is helmet plus rebreather

with the crafting rework we finally get those banners for each specific weapon

and that's like idk 5/10 points each

[rigid pilot]

Specific weapon penances seem cursed

[pseudo fiber]

It could be like 250 kills

because it'd be post itemisation rework

[last parcel]

Pick up 40,000 ammo packs while using an Accatran Recon Lasgun

[pseudo fiber]

Get 1 kill

But yes I see maybe a like insignia is that what they're called

Another border, weapon skin (plasma gun please) and title maybe like 6th loyalist or smth

Everyone is happy

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-explosão-explosion-happy-cat-gif-11628319126583477588

[tall torrent]

nice, almost there

[tall torrent]

nice

[pseudo fiber]

It's done now thankfully

[tall torrent]

congrats

now u can wear Moebian 6th on all classes and flex on people

[pseudo fiber]

Appreciated I am now a loyalist

I have lol

Even if I don't like the zealot one a ton

I must say getting from around 3800 to 4400 wasn't as bad as I thought but doing 4400 to 4500 was horrible

[midnight totem]

I'm at 4380 now

If I do the 50 missions of every map I'll get 4500+ easily enough

[grand perch]

You know what would be really cool? An army painter style armour where you can customise the colours, like in DoW 1

(also with the option to turn off seeing other people's customisation because who knows what eye cancer colours they could be rocking)

[somber axle]

lime green scunt

every time

[grand perch]

It is known

[austere pine]

i spedrun most penances and now im stuck at needing to play hundreds of missions to finish "play 50 missions of [insert map location]"

at like... 8-16 on all of them

[umbral scaffold]

which chainsword is better?

[fair acorn]

the last variant imo

[full nacelle]

Can someone explain toughness replenishment to me?

Is it ALL forms of toughness gain or is it just coherency?

How does it interact with Born Leader?

[rigid pilot]

The one from the curio is toughness Regen speed and it only affects coherency regen

Other talents buff all toughness gain in general, afaik

[full nacelle]

I'm specifically talking about the Inspiring Presence talent