#veteran-class
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no please you don't understand stay where you are the Zealots need you to leave them alone to get that penance done
NEVER
The way i see class roles/jobs is as follows:
Psyker is DPS that cant take a hit, but can and will kill everything in the room if allowed to.
Veteran is the DPS who can not only take a hit, but can also allow the rest of the team to take more hits.
Zealot is the backup tank who can trivialize boss encounters and refuses to die under any circumstance.
Ogryn is the brick wall that walks around the corner and throws a 90 kg piece of concrete and rebat towards you at 100 kmph before pickling a fight with the biggest guy in the room and folding him like a lawn chair.
im hella evil since i use charge zealot AND I STICK TO THOSE SHROUD FIELD ZEALOTS LIKE A leach 
Veteran is great at picking off HVTs especially in a crowd
Got a trapper? Shout to knock down the horde then headshot, or highlight HVTs with executioners stance

I'm not mad anymore because I'm finished with that but wow LMFAO
dive deeper, even deeper 
I have to run to the end of the map before the squad of baby ducks lose pace with me and I know they'll be around the corner in my face again in another few seconds too
I've started calling obviously new players who are scared and huddle together for safety "baby ducklings" because they follow you always even to their own detriment
I am now reminded of that time i had to babysit a team of 3 loner-stealth zealots as psyker... all the while getting told over mic that "psyker was trash"...
I've had funny moments when I dive into a group of maulers, flak ragers or crushers amidst a horde, see team mate goes down, turn around and see the Vet chased after to try to join me in melee
baby no stay back there you're fine I can stab these things down while you shoot
Fun fact: I was out-damaging all of them combined
run past enemies instead of clearing the way for them 
They kept running way ahead and stealthing up the moment a horde spawned
I would like to knoe your build so i can use it when i decide to do oysker penance or just in general
There are a lot of high dps payker builds
Gunpsyker, empowered smite, voidstrike with warp charges
Givme some :p since i only know gun and the surge staff
Is there any key information when playing this build, like need x stack of something
I recommend a good surge or voidstrike staff
They're to build empowered stacks
And to pick off targets at range
If you see a mass of anything you want dead
Smite them. Hold Smite as your peril builds. Before it reaches max, shriek, keep holding Smite
It doesn't exactly kill that quickly
But it's power is that it scales much better with more enemies
The more heretics are coming at you the faster they will die
Reminds Ulgo when played solo session with 3 stealth shouty
All dem died was last ogryn standin
Might have been the same team
Was long time ago
Ulgo remmember it because demon host kill one and then attacked Ulgo at other side of map
Was i a good stealth zealot when doing hm twins 👀
Yes
psyker build in vet chat
He asked
Indeed i did, and i thabk you for it
Sure maybe went down once, but we make it throught yes?
Yes I went down on our 1st official run and smash to second
Was not so hard
You see, the regiments have psykers, so it's just a soldier helping the witch


Vets are asleep post Zealot, Psyker and Ogryn until they get their coffee
Hey guys, welcome to my knife zealot tutorial, today we...
The picture of power
any new players about that want need some pointers dm me ill play some games with you 🙂
A face that says "get on my back little ones I will carry you if your legs fail you" and the back and arms to prove he could with ease
i jsut straed my 4th pysker
last thing the scab sniper sees before a chunk of concrete gets hurled at them at mach 4
Mis-shapen DnD dice gang
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OnlyRocks
I'm doing knife/agripnaa revolver with exe stance and weapon specialist to become cowboy, am I throwing
What grenade
Then no
As long as you can deal with anything yourself you're good
Hordes/elites etc
look at this freak build
All this just to try and make that shitty revolver not trash
Is no respite shottie blessing for hits that stagger the enemy or after the shot that put them into stagger?
I feel like you aren't leveraging it's strengths with this at all
isnt the revolver the best gun in the game?
i personally really like the agripina on my zealot to make it more satisfying when i steal a vet's kill
but yeah that's what i figured. and weapon mastery is unparalleled since you get a round back every melee kill
Honestly the worst thing about the agri is just the crosshair. So bad I downloaded a mod to change it
Can still pretty reliably headshot things
btw, I have begun to wonder if I should run Confirmed Kill instead of Out For Blood, even when I already have VoC and the Toughness/Stam gain augment of Focus Target in the same build...?
imo exec stance is not the play when you don't have an ads
ex stance and wepnspec don't mix at all really lul
Huh?!
Weird take
I'm not sure where the CK vs. Out for Blood debate is nowadays, but I'd put both talents as equal. So it's more about the nodes around it.
If you don't need the extra TDR from Close Order, then w/e
i think executioner stance shines when you can reliably land a ton of shots in a ton of places, like a lasgun or a columnus or a headhunter
but if you only have 5 shots and you have to put them in the right places, AND you can't pinpoint a sniper 50m away without ads, AND you have to change weapons to proc weapon mastery
hmmm... I mean, my shotgun build needs Out for Blood due to it being in the same section as Tac Reload, but I also could use Close Order with my overall playstyle... but then again, I am so used to Out for Blood in all my builds that idk if I would deal with hordes as well as I do now if I swapped to CK...
if you are running a rev the other two specials are loads more effective than exec
when i tried it out i genuinely struggled
(moreso than if i used initiative or yell)
bonuses to damage and crit don't matter too much with a revolver unless you're fighting a boss and that's the only real purpose i see to pairing exec with a revolver
got 2 questions?
a revolver build
is it still wise to implement the survivalist talent in the builds when i got hella nerfed?
im currently ruinning the agripinaa mk 8 braced autogun, should i still run the survivalist aura?

I doubt that having and not having it makes a huge difference, but that depends on the rest of the build
The choices are not 1s and zeroes
ight bet
i have 2 questions
it's still the best aura in the game
also you dont have to preface you have questions just shout them into the void
Yea surv got nerfed but free ammo is free ammo.
I finally found a way to make lasguns more viable
you know it does wonders when you actually read the skills 🤣
Alt-f4 I believe
mfw professional builds look exactly like my own but i never looked them up: 🗿
Somewhat questionable choices have occurred in that build
i want to clarify it isnt exactly like my build, the main things are similar
I heard that Rampage is better than Power Cycler when using Power Swords... any thoughts?
Doesn't make sense to me personally
Better in what sense?
Rampage by itself is a power blessing, whereas Power Cycler is a quality of life ™️ blessing
No idea, I just found it on a steam discussion... just said "Power Cycler 4 is hard to get but rampage is better anyways"
Which also happens to increase the uptime of your better swings with the weapon
Rampage might be better if you spec into something silly like horde 1-shots on non-powered swings 
Power Cycler is unambiguously king
But why do that
I figured... it's so good
Rampage would be competing with BM and Sunder
I was just seeing what you guys thought
And lesserly Slaughterer
When you can press this button here, swing 3 times, reset, and deal like quadruple the damage
guys one question
Honestly the unpowered swings are not as bad as they are made out to be for horde clear.
Definitely heretical, let your commissar know
the penance adept assassin just requires the skill to be active or i have to keep switching between melee and rifle?
Oh side note, I have spent like nearly 20k plasteel trying to get power cycler 4... I am hearing different opinions on the best way to get it. Some say just do blues, others say full upgrade to gold
They one-shot groaners if you have some supporting skills for it, so there’s that 
One powered swing and you activate rampage and Slaughterer wouldn't be bad.
PC3 isn't too bad BTW if you don't have 4 yet
Orange typically gives you a higher chance to roll a high level blessing than green -> blue does
At least empirically
IDK what the odds are on the back end
We won’t ever know unless FS discloses them 
it's just that... going to orange is insanely more expensive
It might be less percentage to get it based on plasteel spent.
that's what I am thinking
I don't think there is a good way to test without a large sample size.
I have played with some people and see they have like 50k+ plasteel and I am like "why are you not spending plasteel?" lol
I have 257k last I checked
257k holy shit... I don't play that much lol
I don't play that much either
highest I have ever gotten was 12k
I haven't built everything yet but I have built everything I can think of to actually play
Except for my perfect vet rashad
And any PC4
I play solely Auric Maelstrom, I play idk an hour or 2 a day a few days a week
But I've done that since Auric Maelstrom has existed
And I haven't built anything else, I have all the blessings I want
It doesn't take as long as you think to get there
I experiment with weapons too much.
I just use a weapon and think, hm, what would be good on this
Then do that
Half the guns also just don't have a point to exist imo
Or well not to me
I try to take lesser used guns and make them work. Then realize I wasted all my plasteel pushing a weapon to it's limits and it still sucks.
That's what I mean basically
I also enjoyed a niche playstyle, in the beta I tried the bolter, don't like it, fire single fire 3 times and the recoil randomly gets like an extra burst of recoil, feels bad, the Kantrael was okay, then I used the plasma towards the end of the beta
I found I liked the clutch of saving teammates through walls and killing specials through walls
Always used it now
kantrael was one I tried getting use out of. Just seems like it's bad at most things.
Well back when we only had exe stance it was quite good, especially at killing shooters
I thought if I had scattershot/flechette I could fire round then follow up with a normal shot that would crit and it would double stack and deal a bunch of damage.
Garbage damage
Anyone trying to play orthus offensive on damnation?
Oh I don't mean the shotgun
What issues are you having with Ogryn
I can make it to the final boss fight but my team generally dies by then
Dies to what?
I would try and orient your build around the type of enemy causing the most trouble or disruption.
I can't right now unfortunately.
Okay thanks I’ll keep that in mind
Latrine shovel or club
Things like the rumbler can disrupt groups of enemies to allow your team mates to take them down.
I use the power maul if you were wondering
reckons still suck?
Paul is pretty bad for the mission you're trying to do, I'd recommend the Latrine shovel or club
Reckons?
Bully club?
Literally anything but Paul will work 
Mk1 is generally the best for it
I don't use the Paul much. I usually prefer the mark IIIb bully club or the Krourk Mk IV
Paul is probably one of the worst melee weapons in the game
Don't crush the man's dreams
Let him enjoy the Paul Polish man
Power maul somehow has worse cleave Dmg distribution than a knife
I dream of Darktide where Paul is a usable melee
yea its cool and makes super funny ragdolls but it's been left behind for like eight patches now
I know how to make it good
so sadly it doesnt really perform
Won’t save its horrible cleave Dmg distribution
Anyone of you guys want to play orthus offensive on damnation?
I can get on
It would make it infinitely more useful
Even still
It makes me depressed knowing how terrible the Paul is
Turn it into a Crusher
If they made the Paul similar to the crusher it would be great
Just copy the moveset 1:1
Crusher smacks
the krak grenade penance counts normal armored grunts too?
@tall torrent thanks bro! 😁

or just like crushers and maulers?
are you still trying to do this
we alrdy beat it
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13 games until all psyker penances done
mk6
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better to level it up to gold if you're lookin' for the blessing
i did that, spent about 50k plasteel on the mk3, still didnt get PC4 lol
orange is more likely to roll tier 4 blessings
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But really, you're better off waiting to find one with Melk
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doesn't matter which Powersword you get Cycler on
If you take the blessing you can use it on either
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wait really? oh shit i thought you had to get stuff for each individual weapon
I like using my Mk. 4 devils claw sword, tho i wonder if the Mk. 7 variant is any better
mk7 is a lot more complex
Recons still very undertuned
Oh whoops, I quoted wrong
Eggs dee
Recons still very undertuned, yes
mk7 is just the mk4 moveset in reverse
just clunkier to use for the same effect imo
They run a goofy af triple stamina curio setup to try and cling to deadshot for crits
But then you lose out on shock trooper with psyker so you burn out way too quick
ciagv mentioned
I actually don't use the Columnus. I use agrapina infantry autogun
hipster
As I said, it works for me
I shall stick with my Lasgun IA and Helbore Mk. II
Columnus rate of fire is a bit much and anything braced is just not accurate enough
does the krak grenade penance work with normal scab grunts?
sticky surprise
Kraks home into shields/carapace. Will still stick to flak armor.
The devs knew what they were doing when they added that.
Just like how they made edging to be important to psykers
Just another reason to avoid them
Visions of slaanesh r34
That's just normal slaanesh
I saw a psyker edging meme that I could have lived without seeing yesterday
Literally me every time I see 10 shotgunners lined up with Plasma
It also doesn't have to stick to work, I think the dregs with the flak heads work too? Don't quote me on that
thanks 
-Throd, 2024
Come at me like that again I'll put you in a home
please put me in a home the market is crazy rn
U wot m8
me when the cashier touches my hand when giving me the receipt
My shower bottle when I squeeze it in the shower
your receipt is in the bag
you too
It's way more smooth if you slide your number back
I'm bouta write you a strongly worded letter
Oh no. Not that.
C
I don't even live in the UK but I'll send you to Birmingham
take him to detroit
Chicago
Being taken to Detroit is a fate worse than death.
Movie:
“Kentucky Fried Movie” (1977)
NOOOO NOT DETROIT
I'm one of the people in the gym who stand in the middle, flex and scream to assert dominance
REAL
Don't stop for nothing. If your family gets caught at a red light, leave em.
Thank God I drive a 94 4.0 Ford Ranger
Not even God can stop me
Maybe a vacuum leak but not god
To be fair, I have yet to see God do much of anything
Maybe all the miracles happen when I'm not looking? I don't know.
Lookat that though, I wrote them a strongly worded letter in dm and they stopped
No one can beat the power of being a Karen
You didn't contact their supervisor did you?
wth is the puzzle for magistrati oubliette skull?
i just tapped the button until it let me through
It's not very hard
Is that the chandelier one?
OHH
On buttons
Right right.
i did see a letter (S) but like
i didn't see anything on the inside
just the button with 2 monitors that showed nothing specific
If hitting random buttons works, why do anything else?
It's a 2 person puzzle
They stand at the door and be like
Yo
Basically
Far left button and 2 right most buttons
what does the other person do?
Holds w
swag
Average penis gang rise up
Bruh idk why I'm in such a shitpost mood
When we getting a lucifier black skin for guardsman btw
Some bullshit
do we even know what they look like?
Badass
Yeah pretty much
obv
Aside from that. No
sure, lore. but we'd need to know what they at least sort of look like
Cathay mains on suicide watch
That's what they would make the skin for
They've been described in lore
If I remember correctly
But never depicted
Carapace armored, black camo
because it's gonna turn into ionia
and we're gonna cry
leave it at zerrikania from the witcher series i beg
Moebian 6th
Thing is, if they make a lucifier black skin it's gotta go through GW first anyway
So technically it would be cannon
Glad to finally have a loyalist Moebian skin
all of us rn
I don't even really know how to feel about this
ah, so one of the many different factions in that game that idk how to play (I mostly just auto-resolve everything, and I play only Beastmen and Skaven, and I dunno how to play Skaven)...
It looks like melted packing tape
Don't envy having that job.
i would do that job with my bare hands
How does the chest piece look on Ogryn? I feel like it's actually gonna be good
Come over parents aren't home

We can do darktide RP
she magna my core until i vvrrrMMMMPPPHHHHH
Is this a schizo post
It's just like playing Darktide, but without the lag spikes and crashes.
Are you having a stroke?
Poor choice of words batman
I know what I'm doing.
blasting hot blue loads on heretics
Okay Trooper Dylan (4096752792) if you say so
Well, if it lasts more than four hours, see a doctor.
You feel like the main Character in a Ram Ranch live action
18 naked zarona vets
Who the fuck is Zarona
agri pi in ma mouth lmao
Who's Sandy Loam and why can't we go passed her
Amy Rose? I didn't know she could stand.
While mine was a dwarf fortress meme
Doing headshot penance?
Or are you just an Agripina enjoyer
i’m more of an accatran enjoyer
Knew it
Are you also a Malice enjoyer
Or are you a sicko who plays Auric Maelstrom with an accatran
Nobody "enjoys" Malice.
sicko mode
See?
I've never actually used the Accatran
good
I only play Auric Maelstrom tho so I get it
I tried to use it.
Everything else just kinda feels like watching paint dry
Why good
because
I haven't used half of the guns available to vet
I'm bouta hop on and play some Maelstrom one of you goobers want to join
Or do I have to solo queue into empty matches again
ngl kinda need to take a shit
I would play, but my game kept crashing until I gave up
That's why I'm here, actually.
nurgle does tho
Nurgle needs to take a bath.
Poggers
He's starting to smell like a MtG tournament.
if any of you want to get carried lmk
Will do
Have to flex my e-dick
I don't think that's supposed to be able to flex
you can flex any muscle with some effort
2k dmg taken in one match is insane, not to be too critical but wow
rad
I managed a 1hko on a crusher
did you have to complete every single penance to get 4500?
all the class ones?
my progress
I'm at 4100 so I was just wondering
comms plex. the map where you're on the roof with the sattelite and it turns green with a flash of light. that map. how do i complete the puzzle?
it's 2 chaos stars with candles at each end
The skull
yes the skull
The uh candles. I think you have to match them
the shapes or the ones that are lit up on one end i have to light up on the other?
The ones that are lit up.
There are two circles of candles
Nya~!
You have to light the ones up to match the others
yeah no
they were doing the objective and i was left to struggle on 0 ammo fending off shotgunners, snipers and gunners
Yeah... it's better to do it before starting the event
My condolences
woot, unlocked uncanny 4 for my psyker's force swords
"This one had its fill. Shit rolls for 4 months" -Fatshark
How did you know?
I already gave all my plasteel to fatshark
Hadron stole all 3k of my plasteel and I still didn't get PC4...
3k? rookie numbers
watch me roll like 4k and get nothing
wait, no money
We are perpetually poor
i've already rolled maybe 30-40k worth of plasteel on pc4
Never used this gun before but I heard it was insane so I thought I would buy ONE... just one, to try out in the meat grinder. WTF is this lol
i'm starting to think it doesnt exist
It exists but you'll still never get it
wish me luck on the blessings! I don't have any plasteel currently though (frickin PC4 grind is 25k+ now)
gets hot is all you need tbh
blaze away is a bonus but you will melt everything even with rubbish everything else
it exists, but clearly not for some of us. Perhaps we need to perform certain favours for Hadron first? 
the hadron collider
I'll buy her a bottle of premium motor oil. That should please her, I believe
I'm certain that Hadron is doing this on purpose just out of spite.
She does say that she's over how many years old?
And that she's been angry for most of them
you’re not wrong
Maybe 13
yeah, 300-something Terran years
Its a life style
Yknow too many people preach the whole 'live, laugh and love' mentality
Where's my 'hate, loath and seeth' crew
Even though this is late.
There's a board as you come in. Hug the left wall and go around it.
there are two symbols on the side (this is an example they can and do change)
then go to this circle and light the candles to the matching symbols
Didn't even know there was a puzzle there.
Too soon
Not soon enough
Is the mg1a much different than the mk4 I have a really good mk4 unsure if should invest
People been saying its much better
Faster TTK and doesn't give you carpel tunnel.
Admittedly, Mk4 is more fun if you're using the fullauto mod so you don't have that wrist issue.
I do use the mod
Lol then forget what everyone else says. Play what you enjoy.
It’s overall better but not so much better
Rip dyslexics.
This is my mk4
I did not need more reason to dislike psykers
fraggin psykers
how did you get up here?
and good to know it's got nothing to do with the mirrored circle in the other corner of the room
loved the team i did this with
same game as the blazkowicz cosplayer one
cosplayer left for some reason and we got a purgation psyker
good mission
I know I tried to do that once. Can't recall if we did though
pretty fun to coordinate
I did that one too. just need to have the whole team respond to chat and let them know what's what
that is indeed the hard part
Communication with these people is a lost cause
No, as long as it's the same class of weapon, you'll be able to share talents
I mean
Blessings
Somethings to note are like different axes
Tactical axes and combat axes
Don't share blessings
But a powersword 3 and 6 will share them
basically, just look at this part of the name
Wise
bro found heretical kamasutra books in deep archivum
was banned from throneside forever
im done


so what's new
Backup back up.
Does cleave damage increase overall damage on a power sword?
the "cleave damage" name is a bit misleading, because it in actuality just affects armour-damage-modifiers against flak, infested, and unarmoured
so, it's just the penetration/stopping power stat but for flak/infested/unarmoured
nice
damm, infiltrate + combat knife is the best representation of ADHD gameplay
I love it
well yeah,and London
Is this a joke about- Ok, yep.
Suffer
man this pennance is taking so long because its anti-thetical to how I use shout. 😐
I dont actually restore my own toughness, I use it as a buffer or a knockback. so I usually use it at the START of the fight
still don't know where the enclavum baross skull is
D:
do pox gas mission and farm
I haven't looked up anything about the map puzzles or idols. Someone randomly does something or I mash some levers and sometimes I'm right
just before the place that mentions that "archivum sycorax is on your right". after the dropdown. There is a little puzzle after the medicae station
no
it's after bridge event
after u cross the bridge and go up the stairs to drop
it's after that drop
No. you've just DONE the bridge, gone down the stairs, turned right, dropped down and there are 2 ways to go? 1 is left loot the other is medicae
oh i've gotchu
after that medicae, puzzle for a door
fking love pipe puzzles
Today i got called a troll because i gave the Ogryn a combat stimm, then proceeded to delete the horde with grenade spam before they could go wild.
what difficulty was that lol
The only stim ever worth holding on is the green. Everything else you might as well shoot up next encounter
I love all stims but I choose them based on loadout
I just pick them up and inject them immediately
not me getting a celerity stim 90% of the time
Since nobody else uses them
Auric heresy. Our team had an ogryn, 2 vets (me with my usual loadout, and a random rocking plasma + psword), and a voidstrike psyker.
Experimenting lots with clown science has shown some weird ways combat stim can break or trivialize encounters but celerity stim is crazy good for some loadouts like Deadshot Recon, and then ability CD reduction is always a good pick for certain class abilities
They're all good stims Bront
1400 RPM
Med stim for saving someone from death's door
People actually playing auric heresy
yup. concentration stim goes crazy
with stuff that has long cd
like shroudfield on zealot
makes infiltrate spam even easier
VoC is perma up with specialist kill cd
don't think abt it too hard
The Zealot being deleted on 1 wounds by a Mauler overhead from behind
I like to imagine all the stims sticking out the back of the ogryn who hasn't noticed the team jabbing him
Suddenly 8 Maulers behind you! Right now!!
these heretics have started distributing shroudfield technology to their most powerful soldiers
Galaxy's greatest WD40 keeping that chainaxe silent
and he's just confused as to why sometimes he's stronger or can run for longer or shoots faster
I think the reason i was called a troll was that I got the ogryns hopes up by giving injecting him with the combat stimm, then dashed them by killing the whole horde myself before he could enjoy the power-boost.
Not if you counter combat stim with a med pack
Heart rate goes up. Heart rate goes down.
If I can rev my Chainaxe in Infiltrate and the heretics have no idea I exist despite the increasingly loud sound of a chainsaw blade approaching menacingly then I will accept Maulers going WoW Fel Reaver on us too
or just the long invis voice lines
especially on shroud field
with the 3s duration
"The Heretics are blind to much." and half a second later the invis ends
but the enemies have 0 idea
they're blind to sound
me running alongside the heretics while low profile is active confusing the shit out of my team
man, i've been in those situations a couple of times during some airsoft or paintball games and believe me, you'd have no idea
the only distinguishing factor of who is your friend and who isn't is where they're running
I once ruined a loner-stealth zealots "Clip moment" my tossing a cross-map frag at the gunner squad he was trying to sneak behind, and killing them the moment he got in stabbing range.
what a pain
good on you
loner stealth is probably the worst combination
and you can add onto that knives and martyrdom
for the most selfish build imaginable
I use throwing knives and martyrdom on my hammer-zealot...
As someone who recently had to do the Loner penance on Zealot I hope every pair of socks you ever put on is uncomfortably wet
But as a Vet main who doesn't have to care about that ever again I say do it again
i'm not sure about martyrdom on hammer. i've seen it and the consistent attack speed might be good
Martyrdom hammer is hilarious
yes
WH
literally THE perfect setup
backbonk
the 3s are too short to actually maneuver to further away targets unless you're running knife
Martyrdom makes you a hard-to-kill tank that can 1-tap crushers, and 2-3-tap most bosses. The throwing knives let you take out gunners who are just out of reach.
so it's basically a setup tool for stabbing crushers, bulwarks, reapers and monstrosities
attack speed on the hammer is also good for horde clear
only thing i was doubting was martyrdom because i used it on my eviscerator proto-build only
yeah except the average martyrdom zealot has 2 braincells competing for 3rd place >:|
inex judgement gives attack speed
you only need 1 braincell to kill a daemonhost as a thammer Zealot
and you get to invest into the +10% attack speed node from martyrdom's branch easily
and that braincell is just to turn on the thammer
and you dont need martyrdom to do that lmao
as a crucis thunderhammer zealot
you need 2 of them to do it with ironhelm
yeah but what else are you going to run with thammer
inex judge
piety? momentum?
you can get 8% more attack speed from marty than momentum! and also you don't have to charge up 20 stacks
max is 15 now
momentum’s not bad I find
oh RIP they nerfed it
Did I accidentaly click on the Zealot channel?
momentum is good
it's better for more mobile weapons
I tried momentum thammer and didn't like it compared to martyrdom
martyrdom is just incredibly point heavy
zealot players dont discuss zealot channel
So they come here to do it?
I'm a Vet main but I play all classes so

needed gun advice for zealot
eh I dont play zealot in hard content. I dont like the options outside of the stuff which doesn't give you the tools I prefer for it
learned to play vet
I’m playing all classes like a man
Well I knew that already. I think.
all lasguns done in guide
people enjoying ogryn scare me

Ok but did you know I'm a clown
did you know I main Recon
yes. yes we did
Did you know I can delete Crushers with a Recon Mk VId??
heavy hitter ogryn is the goat tho
I burned myself out on zealot this patch after completjng all the class challenges in the first two days
Actually no, I must have missed it the last few times you mentioned it
did u get moebian 6th yet
LET ME TAKE YOU ON A JOURNEY
THROUGH THE DIGITAL CIRCUS THAT IS MY RECON
nah I only did zealot and 99% of ogryn
i can show you the world
got burnt out waiting on lucky bullet to proc
yes I do this in actual matches and I only play Damnation+
yes this works in Auric
this is the Recon Mk VId used in the clip
talents
DISCLAIMER TIME
crit dmg is immense sadness
inexcusable
oh my god its him
I use the kantrael shotgun with scattershot and flechet... load dragonsbreath and ignite a whole horde with a chance to make them all bleed. Bleed helps proc scourge, and scourge helps proc invocation of death, which means more Choruses of spiritual fortitude.
Is it good? eh... I have no idea.
Is it fun? for me, yes.
our local niche internet microceleb
I personally love our resident clown college.
- You need to be an actual clown to pull this off
- You need three Stam curios for a total +9 stam (with the extra +1 stam from the top of the tree for +10 stam)
- You need Duck and Dive, Focus Target and Target Down to offset stam usage with the Recon Mk VId despite all the stam because
- You're using Deadshot to maximize crit chance in combination with Headhunter blessing to pump out Infernus max stacks in 2 seconds and keep the fire burning for free shots
if you look at that clip you'll see I used 13 ammo
the ammo used can vary between 10-13 depending on crit strings
You can kill Crushers with a Recon Mk VId in 10 ammo but you have to be a clown to do this because this build lacks the survivability of Infiltrate or Voice of Command
your skin is paper, your bones are glass and you need to be so good at dodging that no heretic can touch your ass
are people talking about me while I'm at work
What happens if you use any other weapon with this build.
Asking for a friend.
mmmmmaybe
Absolutely
i'd rather stick to my london shroudfield build, thank you
you take off the clown make up and become a normal person
Lame.
you can do this with a Columnus Infantry Autogun for silly amounts of damage HOWEVER
CIAG has no synergy with Shock Trooper
Recons are specific for this
Well sure
you can fire for what feels like forever before having to reload
callout post on my twitter dot com
your ammo efficiency is weirdly good depending on how good you are at aiming heads and maintaining crit strings
BEHOLD
What do you guys think of the Devil Claw sword?
My friend has been saying it's overpowered since he saw me solo a plague ogryn by parrying all it's attacks.
i want to be its slave
look at my damage compared to theirs, look at my kills compared to theirs and compare the ammo we used
this was a Damnation match
29 minutes
these were not bad players
just random quickplay players
we did fine
ur friend struggles in heresy and plays stealth helbore so I think his takes are mostly irrelevant for meta conversations
.25 stamina regen reduction x2 go brrrr
dc4 used to be my go-to on classes without reasonable options to deal with ragers
at least yours has iron will. my current WS recon build doesn't 
Odd that you specified your veteran's political leanings but alright
Weapon Specialist + Celerity Stim + Recon Mk VId sounds hilarious LMFAO
I am talking about a different friend in this instance, but i guess it's on me for not clarifying.
easier to deal with 6+ rager groups by just spamming special attack tbh. no longer necessary as you can just dodge now
My Vet's only political leanings are to the Digital Circus
plasma vets do seem far right though
Right?
as does literally every character in the setting, for various reasons
cadians are racists
my pronouns are ha/ha
except maybe bodyguard ogryn who's very auth left
I don't know where to put that on the chart.
the z axis
primo dc4 usage usually involves a bolter or plasgun
oh then
no it's not OP because it has very clearly defined weaknesses (cleave dmg distribution vs flak, and general Carapace performance)
I go off the scales beyond what a chart can define me as
You want to put me in the trash instead because I live there with the Recons that every other Vet throws away
Damn it I was trying to think of a joke about that.
another karking thief
Plasma Power Sword users trying to dodge:
Sometimes i feel like i’m the only one who doesn’t use the power sword
I've been trying to make the power sword work
me entering the power sword convention with the superior melee weapon
Did you read the sometimes? There was a sometimes there
It just. Doesn't feel right.
I did manage to 1hko a crusher with my chainsword though. Pretty happy about that
shovel gang wya
I use the Chainaxe Mk XII, Chainsword Mk IV and Mk XIIIg, Combat Knife VI and III, even the base Sapper Shovel (non-folding shovels) but I don't touch the Power Swords as a rule because they make me slow and I hate being slow
once in a blue moon I will raise a shovel with you
most of the time it'll be something that growls angrily when I turn it on though
I can do that myself. no chain sword involved
I can't sound menacing irl no matter how hard I try tbh so it's easier for the weapon to do it for me
the fucking wrrrrrrrr of chain weapons is actually unimaginably attractive
you can’t fuck the chainswords guys
chainvibrator
no
i'm no robot fucker but if my partner was a robot and made those noises, they don't get to move for the next 15 years
I actually hate how loud it is
i LOVE how loud it is
Absolutely
and when you charge up a heavy and the teeth start chattering? yehehehea
Sorry to interrupt dont all weapons have a baseline crit chance? What is it again?
I picked up the chainsword as soon as I got it and just haven't found anything better
yea you know what it sounds like
best part of power sword (imo) is sunder for functionally infinite cleave, i ran a "waves of mutants" maelstrom earlier and killed like 6 of them in 2 swings
it sounds like mauler trying to overhead u
plus with bulwarks you can just mindlessly spam the shield and everything will still die since sunder ps can't bounce
cap
sunder power sword doesn't dmg through shield
(clarification: the bulwark will live but everything around it will still get hit)
it only goes through
it's a beating stick then
cops have been using batons for years now and you don't realize the merit of a spiky baton?
shameful
most weapons have zero
it's rather that the player classes themselves have an innate crit chance attached to them
psyker: 7.5%
vet & zealot: 5%
ogryn: 2.5%
Got it
I think knives have a decently high crit chance
I have to write that down somewhere
but that might be it
There's also a talent node for another +5% crit chance in the Vet tree
Then add in Deadshot +25%
zealot gets a keystone centered around crits
lasmen when deadshot is mentioned
That's before blessings like Surgical, Crucian, etc.
Suddenly Vet becomes a crit powerhouse
and scourge for zealot gives ez crits
betrayed yourself as a moebian vet
Yeah i know all about the trees and stuff i just haven't bothered ever making a crit build
not saying you're from the 6th but you are from the moebian sector
keeping an eye on you
it’s a big place alr
one moebian like the other
moebian 21st baby tertium 1st tour
a matter of time till you join the traitors i feel
absolutely not
for now, you're with us
disgraceful
I’m telling the commissar about this
a commissar shoots me and gets turned into a servitor for killing a member of the inquisition
i would not take my chances
STICKY SURPRISE
like i was hiding it
"...oooh that sounds bad."
LC is a canonical sex haver
cadian does it to their lasgun
Serve the Emperor by having sex

@tall torrent so would you say the Mk.IV devil claw is the most preffered, i mean it works for me
in the grim darkness of the 41st millenium, people serve the emperor by imagining the act of sex with adepta sororitas sisters
Mk4 and Mk7 both good, preference based
Make sure to fill out your C-01 form before serving the Emperor
mk7 is a lot more complex tho
imagine those musky emp teos
I’m from Messelina Gloriana and I say kill em all!
Right, i take mk. IV cause the strike down heavy is first in the heavy chain rather then second
stop saying its complex its just bad
mk4 in reverse
it's not tho
4 strikedowns in a row is real
why is it any better than the mk4
use rashad
Ya, it is
5head
he’s right
One day I'll make a Rashad and find out what everyone means
yk I've used rashad mostly lol
it's real nice
I didnt believe in the rashad until I got brutal momentum
Eh, i have not really been a fan of the rashad
totally different weapon once you have that blessing on
but DC7 is nowhere bad
Left click city
it's just more complex
rashad is so nice if you get it to cleave through groaners and poxwalkers on lights somehow
left! click! city!
brutal momentum is honestly 70% of the reason I like the rashad at all but oh man
For me this actually means right trigger city, console player here
if you ever want a macro to play the game for you then the rashad is your deal
Cut throat vet for me
explains a lot, thank you!
I have two similarly rolled power swords, one with a point more damage and I was looking at the two, wondering why one had higher unarmored damage
For power sword, i'd prefer perks like Elite/Carapace/Flak and any blessing with power cycler, including. Slaughter/Rampage/Sunder/ or Brutal momentum
I run my psword with block efficiency and groaner damage
with +30% weakspot, +15% elite damage, and desperado (weapon spec build), i have +cara/+unyielding since I either oneshot/twoshot all human elites and just need that carapace bonus for a crusher two-shot
Oh yea, Unyielding works good on the power sword as well
It's carapace maniac or unyielding
Maniac for mutant 1shot
Carapace makes crushers easier to reach without taking ogryn damage and other melee talents
Unyielding for bulwark 2 shot
Sad ya can't 1 shot Bulwarks no more, or can you?
Don't think you can
Shame, was fun while it lasted
I have unarmored and manic on my power sword
Question what's the best missions to try to get 5 kills without bouncing a gernade.
