veteran-class

[agile forge]

Currently HB2 (I just stab with bayonet into unyielding)

[bitter turtle]

but unlike those 3, they have gaps in their damage spread

the 3 i listed baiscally kill everything fast

[pallid dew]

I'm still using the Agripinaa

[bitter turtle]

they have no weakness against any armor type and just delete everything

[agile forge]

Which agripinaa lol

[pallid dew]

mk 7

[agile forge]

Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down

[bitter turtle]

agripinna is a forgeworld

[agile forge]

There's IAG, BAG, HH, shotgun, revolver

[bitter turtle]

not a weapon type

[pallid dew]

Combat shotgun

[bitter turtle]

so you have to specify what kind of weapon/mark it is

[agile forge]

Did I miss anything

[bitter turtle]

scattersho tis uh

[pallid dew]

Hoping to get an upgrade later on so I can do auric missions without letting the team down

[bitter turtle]

an interesting choice on a slug shotty

well i figure you probably dont have much of a choice anyway

looks like you got it while levelling

[pallid dew]

So far got the axe which need re blessings and now a new weapon

Yeah

[bitter turtle]

if you want an easy gun to build, the infantry autoguns only have 2 important stats to roll on and fairly flexible blessing/perk loadouts

[pallid dew]

Honestly if i had kept playing since release I wouldn't have to worry about this stuff

[bitter turtle]

and they're easy to play

just generic assault rifle type guns

[pallid dew]

I'm guessing Hellbore is still meta

And plasma

[bitter turtle]

helbore is not meta

especially not after they nerfed the bayonet twice

its still good though

revolver/plasma/ciag share the top most people would agree

[pallid dew]

Revolver is top?

Damn

[agile forge]

Vraks 7 too apparently

[agile forge]

It's for weapon specialist

[bitter turtle]

i would say v7 is after them

[agile forge]

Mostly

[bitter turtle]

it is a strong gun

but it requires

an insane amount of talent taxes

you cannot run the gun with anything resembling decent melee talents

which seriously limits what it can do

since you give up using something like rashad automatically if you choose to play the v7

[white minnow]

you can run v7 with melee talents while being able to hit gunner oneshots

[agile forge]

PS6 always has your back

[bitter turtle]

you can, but you cant oneshot flamers then

[agile forge]

If you are ever unsure of what melee to pick

[bitter turtle]

i dont think thats a worthwhile tradeoff for a gun meant to pick off threats before they get close

[white minnow]

though settling for a two-shot is good enough

it's a tradeoff for taking weapon spec if your heart desires and it's a pretty fair tradeoff at that

[bitter turtle]

i suppose, but it does undeniably limit what the gun is capable of to lose a lot of those nodes at the bottom of mid tree

with rending+ogryn damage it becomes fairly decent at armor penetration, like 2k dps on a crusher

either way

[white minnow]

yeah that's just the nature of taking melee talents

[bitter turtle]

something liker evolver

doesnt even have to care about tradeoffs like that

[white minnow]

sure but you can supplement that with a psword

[bitter turtle]

is my point at least

[white minnow]

but the v7 being able to hit gunner oneshots with a melee build is pretty significant

[bitter turtle]

you can have your cake and eat it

[white minnow]

and you have more ammo to play with

[bitter turtle]

ye it is

i dont think v7 is playable without hitting gunner 1tap anyway

well

that's extreme

[white minnow]

the v7 offers a differrent type of cake than the revolver

[bitter turtle]

but its not competitive

since that's like

the best part about the gun

[white minnow]

a demo of a weapon spec v7 headhunter build that can oneshot gunners https://streamable.com/7yhken

you get to have your melee cake and eat some gunner oneshot cake

[bitter turtle]

yeah, but he's asking what's the "best" guns so we have to rank them

like if we go down further the list, bolter offers a slightly different cake than v7 but overall is still a mostly inferior gun

[white minnow]

i was arguing against this specifically

[bitter turtle]

on vet*

[white minnow]

since you can absolutely run it while taking decent melee talents and even dipping into weapon specialist

[bitter turtle]

ok

let me rephrase

you cant hit all the breakpoints the gun is capable of without sacrificing melee talents*

[white minnow]

that just how it be
I don't even think you can hit the flamer oneshot w/o marksman unless you're talking about a crit

and with deadly accurate

[bitter turtle]

yes, with a crit

you need rending strikes to do a crit 1 shot

with a crit

which is very reasonable with deadshot/surgical

in terms of how fast you can do it

[gray finch]

what is the mod for crosshair while aiminig /

[white minnow]

crosshair remap

[gray finch]

ty

[white minnow]

there's two versions (one of them is outdated, and the other one continues on from the previous creator)

you could still take marksman and reach that oneshot and be able to take +10% melee speed

[bitter turtle]

i dont think marksman is very good on v7 ironically

[white minnow]

though if you're willing to give up that flamer bp, you can reach weapon spec and still be comfortable with a trapper one-shot and flamer two-shot

[bitter turtle]

doesn't offer any stamina management

[white minnow]

sure but you don't really need it anyways since it's hitting oneshots and in a ranged fight, you have stamina up permanently

[agile forge]

Marksman =/= marksman focus

[bitter turtle]

i like to have something to continuously fuel deadshot personally since you're relying on crits for flamers/ragers

[agile forge]

Marksman is the red talent in the left leg that gives 20% power for 10s after ability use

[white minnow]

you can just stand there and take ranged hits intentionally to regen stamina

[bitter turtle]

i dont think he's talking about that one

[white minnow]

and you'll only need crits for reapers anyways

ye i'm talking about the keystone

[agile forge]

Ah k

[bitter turtle]

i'd rather not rely on getting shot on purpose to kill a bunch of ragers running at me quickly

esp dregs since it takes forever to kill them without crit headshots

scab you can spam shots into them and its sorta ok enough

[white minnow]

ah for a pure ranged playstyle

[bitter turtle]

i think its not controversial to say you usually rely on your gun for ragers no?

even in a melee playstyle i would hesitate to engage like 7 ragers with my melee weapon unless its pre nerf bayonet

[white minnow]

i run psword so i'm biased

dreg ragers get 3-shot but have low hitmass

scab ragers have high hitmass but get 2-shot

(this is w/o marksman)

[bitter turtle]

a crit should oneshot scabs in the head with 15% elite only

iirc

im not sure if rending strikes is necessary

dregs are sadly just barely short and like the one thing you cant oneshot outside of ogryns and maulers

without marksman focus at least

[white minnow]

with my weapon spec opening salvo one, scab ragers take 1.6k damage with a crit weakspot

though that's what taking melee talents is for with my build

[bitter turtle]

i think my problem with playing the v7 like that

which i have tried

actually yes

since i love weapon spec in general lol

aspd is fun

but the problem i had was

it feels like just a worse version of doing plasma/revolver weapon spec

rather than playing to the strengths of the gun over them

[white minnow]

10 stack is 1.75k maniac crit weak damage

yeah though they're omega busted weapons so comparing other guns to them is a bit moot and being able to consistently tap gunners from a distance is in general very nice

[bitter turtle]

yeah

but i would say playing the v7 in a ranged focus style actually has an advantage over them

overall they are better weapons, but they really cant keep up the continuous elite/specialist deletion since the v7's clip size and reload are much nicer than revolver, and the fire rate is much nicer than plasma

so playing range focus on v7 at least carves out a niche

if you're meleeing half the time in a melee spec build

then you might a swell just use the other two

[white minnow]

i like v7 cuz i can roleplay as a ranged vet by hitting gunner oneshots even on weapon spec

[bitter turtle]

whiel the toher two can't really play like

[white minnow]

and i can greed for gunner kills

[bitter turtle]

"im gonna shoot 70% of the time"

[white minnow]

v7 also seems more comfy than revolver in terms of ammo if i am in the business of continuously proccing melee weapon spec

[bitter turtle]

do you mean like

ammo economy or clip size

[white minnow]

just the former

[bitter turtle]

well

yeah

[white minnow]

since of course there's the upgrade node

[bitter turtle]

its an insanely ammo efficient gun

i dont know if that's enough of a niche where i'd consider it over revolver outside of fun for a melee focus build

well, that's just my take anyway

you can legit fire v7 nonstop through a round and only melee defensively and not run out of bullets, so I want to leverage that

[white minnow]

i like to be able to greed for kills when a gunner pack is around but i can't run up to them before a teammate reaches them

[bitter turtle]

what i really wish i could do is an infiltrate build on v7 lel

but you have to give up a keystone for that

[white minnow]

at least with what i have, the only thing i'd really give up is VoC to go down infiltrate

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/cd1a83e601d0e3d27150685bf0a53d0c.png

is what ive tried

though nowadays

i'd probably just go 10% melee and ms aura

and pick up demo team instead on the bottom to make up for the loss of stockpile

[white minnow]

yeah p much going through smoke nades

[bitter turtle]

i considered going smokes but it seems so pointless

on v7

like

its THE gun to kill gunners

[white minnow]

point economy grindset

[bitter turtle]

😔

[rare echo]

which gun of Vet is good for hoard killing?

[bitter turtle]

agri brauto

[agile forge]

Ideally you don't use it for hordes

Frag grenades are great, many melee weapons are

I guess maybe helbore because you can bayonet them lol

[bitter turtle]

uh

definitely not after the nerf

unless you plan to kill 100 poxwalkers 1 at a time

there's no cleave after the bromentum nerf

[oblique totem]

I tend to use guns for hoards and melee for monsters.

[agile forge]

It stabs pretty fast, I'm down for that lmao

[bitter turtle]

try lawbringer or kant shotguns

[agile forge]

Meleeing monsters is conditionally fine

Gun is more for elites and specials, and sometimes trash shooters

mostly

But yeah, agripinaa Braced autogun isn't bad at it

Those 2 shotguns too

Plasma will ice a whole column of zombies between you and whatever elite you're actually aiming at

If you're shooting at a horde it's like an edge case really

There are times to do it but it shouldn't be plan A is what I'm saying

[bitter turtle]

if all you care about is your gun mulching a horde

this is probably your best shot

its not good for very much else though

[whole blade]

is there a ranalds gift website yet? I forgot my builds and my vet got wiped in the last update

[rare echo]

since I switch from Psy to vet for penance. I miss hoard clearing ablility/staff a lot.

[oblique totem]

I would like a bit more utility. At present I like either the agri braced or the Graia infantry autoguns.

[rare echo]

dont thing I will miss it that much

[whole blade]

just get a shredder to kill everything but Crushers

[oblique totem]

Nice try

[pallid dew]

beautiful

[whole blade]

and tyhen bring kraks for crushers

[white minnow]

prob keep with the agri brauto and go brr

[bitter turtle]

ye

that's my first suggestion

its decent enough at going brrr at hordes while still doing other things

lawbringer is pretty much a one trick pony

[iron marten]

wtf. got this as a drop

[bitter turtle]

well

you can live with ranged critical chance

probably just swap the blessings to headhunter + deadly accurate or ghost

[iron marten]

I can live with unarmoured as well

[bitter turtle]

unarmored is actually good so you're fine there

[iron marten]

o rly

I thought there was a better option

nvm then

[bitter turtle]

im not sure if its optimal but im sure its at least decent

[oblique totem]

Huh that's a decent drop

[bitter turtle]

you can probably 1tap gunners with +25% unarmored

[iron marten]

ez

well, too bad I'm a helbore gamer

guess I'll bring this out if I get tired of holding down to charge

[oblique totem]

What are the best blessings for the braced autogun?

[bitter turtle]

i would take your pick from deathspitter, fire frenzy (damage boosts), or hit & run (immunity to gunners on a close range kill)

some people enjoy stripped down too

[bitter turtle]

so specifically

on a focus target build with 5 redirect/2 focus stacks

unarmored lets you critless 1 tap dreg gunners at around 25m~ with longshot

so that's

something

[iron marten]

neato

[bitter turtle]

the distance needed might shrink if you take fire team too

which is

a legit consideration since lasguns dont run otu of ammo aynway

[iron marten]

yeee

[bitter turtle]

its probably not as good as having flak

but

[iron marten]

hey, I ain't gonna complain. The only plasteel spent on this was replacing the blessings, lol

[bitter turtle]

fire team shrinks the distance reuqired to 15m

so

that's actually

probably worth it over surv

maybe?

idk

10m less needed to oneshot

you cant make ilas crit on demand because headhunter isnt surgical so its a thought

[iron marten]

if I really am that scummy with ammo, perhaps

who knows, maybe a bolter and a plasma vet might join my lobby

[oblique totem]

gun go brrrrr

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/814eeb95861e05129808278647fafd98.jpg

pretty low pickups on my last game with it

at least compared to the other two gun users on the team

[iron marten]

lol

[bitter turtle]

like that guy who huffed up 3 ammo crate charges

somehow

bolter should be used as a sniper rifle on vet anyway

[iron marten]

like a dmr, yeah

though I use v7 for that, tbh

[bitter turtle]

well

[iron marten]

I kinda just bring bolter if I want to feel powerful for like 4 seconds

[bitter turtle]

my opinion is v7 is basically just a better bolter rn

bolter's only niche over v7 is hipiring into monsters

[iron marten]

though magdumping into a monstrosity with a bolter is never not fun

ye

[bitter turtle]

v7 boss damage is unimpressive in comparison

but its like

bolter's perk is monstro damage vs

bigger clip, faster reload, better recoil, better firerate when adsing, don tneed to finger keyboard swap tech to cut down the swap time

[whole blade]

Is it worth going down weapon specialist in a melee/run and gun build?

[bitter turtle]

not a great tradeoff

[bitter turtle]

weapon specialist is melee focused but only certain guns really benefit

that being said, the melee buffs are the more important part

so

you can squeeze it in to whatever gun if you really want to

what are you planning on playing

[whole blade]

Im using a shredder with my melee I use smoke nades to push guns/elites and to aid survivability in hordes

[bitter turtle]

shredder autopistol probably doesnt benefit much from weapon specialist

but

you can still do it if you want

as i said

[whole blade]

what wqould you recomend then

[bitter turtle]

the melee part is the most important part of the talent

[bitter turtle]

single shot guns, or guns that benefit from the rof boost

[whole blade]

Like I said im trying to play vet as aggressive and run and gun

[bitter turtle]

or guns that have excellent crit strings

tbh

i dont wanna push you away from using it

[whole blade]

I dont have to go down weapon specialist

[agile forge]

Tbf

[bitter turtle]

but shredder autopistol

iks probably

the WORST gun right now

lol

[agile forge]

Shredder might be the worst gun in the game

[whole blade]

they nerfged it?

[bitter turtle]

never recovered from losing 80% of its damage

[agile forge]

Along with recon 2

Massive nerf

[bitter turtle]

ages ago

yeah

[agile forge]

Pinning fire got murdered

[bitter turtle]

pinning fire lost 80% of its power boost

[whole blade]

Since when?

[bitter turtle]

and uh

autopistol died with it

um

i wanna say like...

at least 7 months back?

idk

its been a while

[agile forge]

Autopistol was nothing but a pinning fire stick

[whole blade]

I've been using it on damnation auric and its been fine

if they nerfed it it wasnt enough

[bitter turtle]

you can use it

[agile forge]

Imagine how you would do with a real gun lmao

[bitter turtle]

im just letting you know

if you really want that playstyle, a hit&run columnus iag will probably legit just be a better version of that

[agile forge]

It's currently a gimmicky toughness regeneration wand with inspiring barrage

[bitter turtle]

but going back to your question

for maximum weapon specialist synergy

[agile forge]

Which does ok against maniacs

[bitter turtle]

weapon specialist was basically tailor made for revolver

but other guns that are good with it are like

laspistol (use an autoclicker or your fingers will die)

headhunter V3

[whole blade]

Oooh las pistol for run and gun is a good choice

[bitter turtle]

yeah

just

use an autoclicker

especially if you use mark 2

the fast one

[whole blade]

nah im usewd to spamming the las pistol

[bitter turtle]

i dont want to be responsible for someone breaking their fingers lol

remember you get an ROF boost

[whole blade]

I used to use it a lot just not in my smoke/command build

[bitter turtle]

so you need to click EVEN FASTER

well

if you are willing to deal with it without the full auto mod knock yourself out

there's the mk10 too which doesnt need as rapid clicking

and hits harder

both are good anyway

shotguns are good weapon specialist guns as well

[agile forge]

Mark 10 is a suppression immune infantry lasgun basically

It has much worse Finesse values iirc

[whole blade]

is that the brown lasgun?

[bitter turtle]

the brown laspistol yes

it shoots slower but hits harder

[whole blade]

not unlocked that one yet

[whole blade]

Can I strewam so you guys can help me pick skills?

[bitter turtle]

the rof boost is pretty noticeable but clicking this fast for 30 minutes straight was awful enough to get me to install the full auto mod

lol

for mk2

my partner is sleeping in the room with me rn so I cant' watch a stream

are you talking about a talent tree?

[whole blade]

yeh

[bitter turtle]

just tell me

what grenade you want

what ability you want

and i will just make one

[agile forge]

Tbh you are still levelling

So just make sure you get at least 1 toughness regen node from the top of the tree

And have fun with whatever you like

[bitter turtle]

i do play a very

run n gun hyperaggressive mobile build as well

so if you want me to just send you what i use i can do that as well

[whole blade]

Voice of command and smoke

[bitter turtle]

ok

what melee

[whole blade]

im max level I have like 860 hours in this game

[whole blade]

Devil Claw mk7

[agile forge]

You said you hadn't unlocked the gun lol

I guess you meant you don't have one

[whole blade]

I havnt found one worth keeping

[agile forge]

Aight, misunderstood

[bitter turtle]

do you plan to run shred on your dclaw

the crit chance blessing

[whole blade]

The one I have has wrath and rampage

it has good stats but I did the best I could with the perks and blessings

its got 80 everything except mobility and finesse is 78

[bitter turtle]

that's fine

im just asking

because exploit weakness is valid if you run shred dclaw

tbh

it might still be worth thinking about

[whole blade]

crits happen regularly enough yeah

I also got ammo aura

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/45c96e4b039a4ac80018c7bda662aa26.png

id try this with lasgun/dclaw

[whole blade]

movement speed over ammo aura?

[bitter turtle]

are you seriously planning on going smokes and then going all the way to survivalist and then going back to voc

that is a huge waste of points for a gun that doesnt need survivalist to begin with

unless you really just love your gungryn/gunker teammates that much

[whole blade]

I just like it because its good team support and I can use my gun without thinking

[bitter turtle]

you can pretty much shoot without thinking on laspistol as long as you take shocktrooper (i took it)

if you insist on taking survivalist you can, just you will lose a lot

in fact

it might not even really help

you will probably drop shocktrooper

which is probably better than nerfed survivalist for personal ammo economy on laspistol

[whole blade]

I also picked up close quarter kill zone

[bitter turtle]

sure

personally i think dclaw is a weapon that prefers recip

but you can take cqkz instead if you 'd like

[whole blade]

hmm idk they are both good

[bitter turtle]

anyway

going movespeed aura also gets you

agile engagement for free

which i would say is very important on a playstyle you intend to do

especially since neither dclaw nor laspistol is a weapon that oneshots enemies to begin with

[whole blade]

is that a website you used for that skill tree?

[bitter turtle]

yes

gameslantern

they have a build editor there

just uh

do know

since you said you wanna take smokes

and your weapons are dclaw/laspistol

you basically

dont have away to kill carapace

unless you plan to slowly parry them to death

[civic knot]

But the help for your teammates is absotely huge. Still best aura in the game by far

[whole blade]

how do I link builds?

[bitter turtle]

i just take a screenshot

[whole blade]

I got points left over

[finite carbon]

Your weapons are laspistol and D/claw, right?

[bitter turtle]

you are still using laspistol correct?

[finite carbon]

Onslaughtttt

[bitter turtle]

grab deadshot and superiority complex

i dont think onslaught will stack fast enough to matter

[whole blade]

yes

[whole blade]

why deadshot over rending strikes?

[bitter turtle]

deadshot has great synergy with laspistol because of its high finesse values

rending strikes is good, but it takes 2 points to reach

you will get more damage just by taking superiority complex and deadshot at that point

[finite carbon]

No anti-crusher except running to your teammates I guess

[bitter turtle]

yes

that's what i pointed out earlier

laspistol/dclaw is basically "i cant kill crushers"

so

im not so sure about this pairing

but

[whole blade]

I wish we could name build

s

[bitter turtle]

even with rending strikes

and shred

with exploit weakness

its still slow as hell

[bitter turtle]

and yes, its probably still the strongest aura in general, but i dont know about wasting 4+ points to grab it

its not THAT good

that its worth losing 4 points on your tree

[whole blade]

I get uncomfy with deadshot bnot a fun of stamina drain

[bitter turtle]

well

if you dont want deadshot

drop it

its not like laspistol is unplayable without it

you're supposed to hipfire when you dont need the crit boost

since laspistol hipfire is quite accurate

if you were to drop it

you can get cqkz and recip now i guess

or get on your toes

or drop invigorated too and grab rending strikes

since you probably wont need invigorated stamina gain if you arent draining from deadshot

https://i.gyazo.com/1fc19d4879808656c209d79b5075fa03.png

like so

[whole blade]

yeah I got rending strikes. I know dead shot is very strong but it just makes me uncomfortable using it

[bitter turtle]

that's fine

[whole blade]

I run laspistol on damnation and never used dead shot

[bitter turtle]

i played deadshotless laspistol for a while due to point econ

its not unplayable

[whole blade]

lemme gamble a heavy laspistol

is 79 damage and 74 stopping power good?

[sick patio]

when did they change the power sword activation not reseting it's combo chain?

[bitter turtle]

yes

[bitter turtle]

a couple patches ago

[sick patio]

makes my mk 4 feel more ucky 😦

[bitter turtle]

make sure mobility is at least 51 too

i imagine you do not want to lose a dodge

with your playstyle

lol

[whole blade]

Save or scrap?

[sick patio]

what is the mk 4 combo now with ps2? before you could get away with l1 l2 l3 since l3 was vanguard.

[bitter turtle]

scrap

its just bad

you want

ghost/dumdum
maniac/flak/unarmored (2 out of those 3)

[sick patio]

now your second charge is sweep vanguard overhead

[bitter turtle]

and

rending strikes makes it

slightly better against armor ig

when you keep super complex as well

lol

[whole blade]

the second best i got rn is

[bitter turtle]

at least it managed to fit in my 7 second clip limit

its passable

if you want to gamble it

[bitter turtle]

good

infernus -> ghost

specialists -> maniac probably

unarmored is good too but i would def want maniac on a laspistol

to shore up the weaker maniac multipliers

[whole blade]

so gohst over infernus?

[bitter turtle]

yes

infernus sucks

only for meme slightly more damage on bosses

ghost makes you immune to ranged fire

and you can outrun melee with laspistol mobility

[finite carbon]

Argh, infernus would have been good for the other MK

Good Laspistol tho

[bitter turtle]

infernus is just kinda meme in general

its not very good even on the fast one tbh

[whole blade]

Now I need people to play with that are not briandead

[finite carbon]

No talent to help with that unfortunately

Though PUBs nowadays are really good

[whole blade]

my friend who i used to play with this regularly stopped playing

[tiny summit]

Yea laspistol having innate suppression immunity and ghost is so good. Just a chill time clicking heads

[oblique totem]

No stress, only vibes.

[bitter turtle]

laspistol + knife

maximum sanic

my favorite loadout rn

lol

[tiny summit]

Agile engagement and WS with this mk is fun. It's like a laser deagle. Mulching horde, see a bomber, swap, dome, back to horde

[whole blade]

I can fit almost any weapon into this build right

like itl work fine

[bitter turtle]

you might need to do minor adjustments

like

remove exploit weakness into 25 toughness on something that isnt dclaw

or adding ogryn damage instead of rending strikes

but yes

the general idea is usable

[whole blade]

because we have limited build slots I dont like yper specific min maxy builds

I just want like 30 slots and the ability to name buiilds

[bitter turtle]

there's a mod for more slots i think

[near grove]

Yeah I think there is, p sure it also allows naming them

Might be two separate mods

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/36d1e0c9acf32e6cad454ebeb55a8a11.png

i dont even know why stability is a stat

[oblique totem]

Just another number to let you down

[whole blade]

i like stab tbh

[bitter turtle]

0 stability

it does nothing

100 stability for reference

idk about you

i cant tell a difference

lol

[odd sparrow]

Presumably hip-fire is worse?

And movement penalty

[whole blade]

i meant in general for some weapons it doesnt do much

[grand perch]

What mod is letting you choose perks and blessings ?

[bitter turtle]

0 stability hipfire

100 stability hipfire

if there is a difference, i dont see it

[bitter turtle]

loadout config

[grand perch]

Might be placebo, but i think the grouping stays tighter?

[bitter turtle]

even if that were true

the difference between 0 (nearly impossible) and 100 (actually impossible) is so minor it could written off as a placebo

if we're tlaking about real values it might as well not exist

[agile forge]

Can anybody compare stability values on CIAG?

I'm struggling with mine on my gunker but it's like 50 stability

[odd sparrow]

Try moving as well?

[bitter turtle]

there's basically no difference still

dont feel like recording it again

but yeah

[odd sparrow]

But yeah infantry autoguns stability actually matters

Ok fair thanks

The difference between a low stability columnus and a high level is night and day

[bitter turtle]

for ciag

again, too lazy to record

they both kick up to the same height as far as i can tell

but 0 stability kicks up much faster

[odd sparrow]

As far as i remember anyway

That makes sense.

Cause im only really having trouble with high stability columnus on long salvos

[bitter turtle]

you can compensate for it

but you need to move your aim down quicker

than if you were using high stab

if you i gnore the kick

[grand perch]

i remember going to back to low stability headhunter autoguns for my hardcore challenge. was not expecting the ridiculous kick low stabily headhunters have

[bitter turtle]

the accuracy is actually about the same

[bitter turtle]

yeah low stability v3 is actually unplayable

[grand perch]

coincidentally thats the one i used. hipfiring became the norm

[bitter turtle]

yeah

0 stability ciag

[grand perch]

thanks. i wish it wasnt buried on a mod-dedicated discord so i could have spared you the question and just googled it

[bitter turtle]

i can still compesnate for

this though

i know i said iw as lazy but i just wanted to record to show just how awful the kick is

lol

[grand perch]

its like youre firing an anti-material rifle in semiauto

[hollow warren]

Now I hate myself for gluing the two screenshots together. Because this looks absolutely sick.

Why couldn't Obese Megalodon give us a proper Moebian loyalist helmet like this? Why did it have to come in two separate pieces?

[whole blade]

I want nam era flak jacket and steel helmet

[bitter turtle]

the ogryn one is in the datamines

its probably when they update the penance track

kinda dumb

[hollow warren]

yeah I've seen that one, slick looking

I want Moebian VIth heretic outfits too

[bitter turtle]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer-40k-darktide/images/e/e8/Agripinaa_Aquila_Pattern_Flak_Helmet_-_Gloamus_Camo_(Brute_Sized).JPG/revision/latest?cb=20240406200700

[hollow warren]

specially that scab gunner helmet with the plume

[bitter turtle]

its a crime we dont have these

[tiny summit]

Datamine worth of money or goodwill building

[pallid dew]

Are these new leaaks?

Or is that a mod?

[bitter turtle]

Old leaks

[candid mulch]

I'd love to see Karskin Hellgun and power gauntlet for Vet, Hellgun would be great, and gauntlet would be a equivalent (or so) for the Thunder hammer

fut it seems this giant fish company devs will jsut wait another year to add content

[junior needle]

Because they're going to sell the complete version for actual money and split it into incomplete versions for the free plebs

[slender turtle]

Cause they need you to see all their effort going into making your characters uninspired faces

[sleek garden]

Still surprising that it puts down crushers with any sort of urgency

I usually use this one or the mk1

And mk1 is just heavy heavy light

Not a swift combo

Only one stikedown in the whole kit but it does obliterate groups of idiots

[somber axle]

Tinfoil hat theory time: the Path of Redemption is going to add additional penance rewards some time in the future to give us the helmeted version we saw with the Ogryn helmet leak but locked behind particularly difficult penances to perform

Imagine a penance that makes you perform 3 Auric Maelstroms in succession all finished in under X amount of minutes with no deaths

[hollow warren]

hell naw

[somber axle]

It'd make the helmeted version carry a bit of prestige too

See someone with it if it takes something like that? Then you know they worked for it

[hollow warren]

I'm still struggling with the Auric Storm Survivor penance... and you're talking about this?

[somber axle]

Yes LOL

It is my tinfoil hat theory

[north pebble]

they could have made a version like this too, respirator looks more cool

[somber axle]

It's either going to be locked behind harder penances yet to be unleashed or it'll be like Soldier 69 said and they'll just be cosmetic shop rotation for irl money

[hollow warren]

I love the helmet of the scab gunner

[hearty panther]

smh cant believe people still struggle with ASS

[hollow warren]

with that blue plume on top

[hollow warren]

not everyone is as skill or has the right build?

I'm a casual player, I mostly dwell around heresy/damnation difficulty levels. auric maelstorms make me sweat out of sheer stress to not die

[hearty panther]

if u want ASS u gotta carry urself there and u gotta be ready to eat whatever it throws at u

[hollow warren]

and I'm still at 3/5 to my ASS certificate

[merry gale]

it's not required to get to 4500 mind you

[north pebble]

which penance are you guys referring to

[hearty panther]

penance?

[hollow warren]

I'm fairly sure it's a lot easier to do if you have friends to play with and you're all in VC, not with randos

[north pebble]

oh wait, my bad. didn't know what ASS meant

[hollow warren]

I feel like auric maelstorms will be a lot easier if the entire team goes slow and steady, instead of rushing it like mad

[stable socket]

depends on what you mean by slow and steady

you kinda have to keep up with the special spawn rate or you die, and (unless whole team is psykers) there's a finite amount of ammo

[hollow warren]

proceed -> clear horde, stay together, once most of the horde is cleared -> proceed further. rinse and repeat

[stable socket]

ideally you should be able to move forward while clearing horde and killing whatever specialists show up during the horde, really the only thing where you have to back off is big carapace packs or monstrosity

[unique sorrel]

yeah, lingering for 1-2 extra special waves really hurts

[stable socket]

especially with tox bombers nowadays you have to keep moving forward

[hollow warren]

well yeah, slowly creep forwards while clearing a horde. I didn't mean stay in once place and kill everything that comes at you

[stable socket]

if the team stops to clear the horde and a tox bomber gets a single throw off, it's very likely that the team will split in different directions

whereas if everyone is moving forward, when the tox bomb hits everyone will keep moving forward and out of the cloud at the same side

[hollow warren]

and for the love of god, I've seen way too many people shoot the burster when some else tries to push it

[stable socket]

pacing is really important, you want to be going forward as fast as the team can manage

yeah generally whoever is closest to the burster should be responsible for it

[hollow warren]

I'm horrified going through auric mael with my psyker seeing how squishy and vulnerable she is, but somehow out of the 3 maelstorms I've completed so far, 2 are with a smite/bubble psyker

the other one is with a feel no pain ogryn

lost a 2/5 previously, now at 3/5

I hope I won't fuck this up

[stable socket]

eventually it'll happen!

the faster specialists die the easier the run will be

[hollow warren]

the two maelstorms I did with psyker were specifically the "mostly ranged, only scab faction"

two maelstorms and I've completed that bubble penance, lol

[stable socket]

oh yeah that modifier is one of the best

hunting grounds + many specialists is also psyker food if you run venting shriek + creeping flames, one shout with 85%+ peril will burn all hounds to death with no further intervention and then psykinetic's aura will refund all of your shriek cooldown for the next wave

[hollow warren]

the one I did with ogryn was a nurgle's blessing hunting ground, I think

[hollow warren]

I should look into that, thanks

[stable socket]

actually i'm not 100% sure if 6 stacks is enough, i feel like it is but there's a chance you may need to manually kill one with staff lmb for perilous combustion to put 3 more stacks on everything - 9 is definitely enough

ok after testing in psykhanium i was wrong - 6 stacks is not enough. perilous combustion is needed so you have to kill a few (testing indicates you have to kill 2 for a total of 12 burn stacks at 0 peril, with higher peril and the node that gives you power with high peril you can kill with 9 stacks) manually but once you get the chain going they will all burn, i regularly get like 8-10 offscreen hound kills with shriek plus a bit more damage

[unique sorrel]

yeah, it really cuts in your ability to move around the map when you know you have to flee from bursters while they struggle to kill it (which is a mistake anyway)

almost as bad as the people who always flee from the bursters and wind up pulling them into the squad lol

[sinful swallow]

melk coming in hot

[tall torrent]

It’s bricked unfortunately

[idle swallow]

Harvest blood letter and move on

[upper lichen]

is it possible to find ammo crates in "no ammo pick ups" maelstroms?

[stable socket]

i have never seen one

[sinful swallow]

mob looks bad but its actually just about neutral on dodge distance and sprint speed

i run laspistol anyways for running around

[agile forge]

Are you testing on regular dogs or hunting grounds dogs?

Hunting grounds dogs are much less tough

[winged warren]

if you really want to get it:
Just quit when you are going to die

Else just play and you will get it naturally trust me.
I only got it today (was surprised)
I feel theres no point for it since i always outdo those with ASS. And its like at least 2/4 people going to have that title in a5mael pubs, theres really nothing to show for (esp when you consider those people could have just cheesed it)

i got it playing martyr zealot with chastise

its really not the flex you think it is

[junior needle]

Try not to release penances that encourage horrible in game behavior challenge (impossible)

[winged warren]

they could have made it that if you left on purpose it wouldn't count

i didn't cheese it but i still don't want to wear it

[junior needle]

Fatsharks fix for that seems to make it so that joining games in progress and getting disconnected/crashes also bricks it

[oblique totem]

Chainsword with Bloodletter and rampage.
Good or no?

[winged warren]

i see, i didn't know they tried to fix it
But either way, you play long enough and youy would be lucky that you didn't die for 5 games

[junior needle]

They did that with another penance, forgot which

[stable socket]

oh that might be it, i was testing on the regular one in psykhanium. if the hunting grounds dogs are less tough then maybe 6 stacks is actually enough to kill

[junior needle]

Where they stopped cheesing for it by making so that ANY in progress join stopped you from getting credit

[stuck geode]

Can i just magdump into enemies at the beginning and do the rest in melee for "make every shot count"?

[junior needle]

Just do the boss mission and magdump into the shields

[stuck geode]

oh okay

[stable socket]

i did mine with a kantrael shotgun because it's very hard to miss with that thing

[stuck geode]

sounds good

[tall torrent]

It has 1 less dodge because <51% mobility
Crit dmg perk is horrible, might be worst perk in the game
It’s Mk13g so you need wrath + rampage
Chainsword also wants +flak

[lilac eagle]

So does that mean crit damage on ranged weapons is also trash?

Cuse thats like... My entire lasgun build lmao

[sinful swallow]

im happy with the blessings i can just RR the perks

that blows though if thats the dodge threshoild

[hollow warren]

It's not that I really want it to wear the status or something. I'm not planning to wear it, I got Auric Examplar which I've earned fair and square and the purple looks better anyways :^)
I'm just an "achievement addict" and want to get it over with already xD

[junior needle]

Crit damage perk =/= your weapons actual damage on a crit

Crit/weakspot damage stats only apply to the bonus damage your weapon deals on these respective hits, and not the whole hit

That's why the stats are always weaker than they seem, and why the perks are low value.

That 10% crit damage turns into like 2-6% in reality

[junior needle]

Shred is also an acceptable substitute for rampage

Because of the pecularities of chainswords crit damage falloff

[tall torrent]

So for Mk4 u go
Shred/rampage + savage sweep
And on Mk13g u go
Shred/rampage + wrath
Is that right?

[junior needle]

I don't use the mk4 so I can't tell you but that sounds right for the 13g

[tall torrent]

+crit dmg perk is ALWAYS bad in this game because of how it’s calculated (and how you can’t meaningfully enforce crits most of the time)

[junior needle]

Rampage gets better performance on scab bruisers compared to shred on a 13g but only by some seconds

[iron chasm]

Is there any build that would make use of this? It feels good but I need an optimal build.

[junior needle]

iirc on less beefy chaffe shred catches up though

[junior needle]

Carapace is generally a low value perk compared to flak or maniac

[iron chasm]

Good to know.

[junior needle]

Your priority is dumdum>flak/maniac perks>second blessing

for ciag

[tall torrent]

Swap carapace to flak
Reload to elite/maniac

[junior needle]

You can basically choose whatever you want for second blessing

[tall torrent]

Sustained fire isn’t great but columnus5 relies less on 2nd blessing

[junior needle]

Elite will be more useful if you don't play stg

Which has considerably increased maniac spawns

[agile forge]

I don't hate unyielding on it either btw

But elites probably more generally useful than unyielding

[tall torrent]

It’s so overtuned it can get away with a lot of stuff

Maniac is fine I just don’t think it’s non-interchangeable

[next spade]

thoughts?

[tall torrent]

You never know until u consecrate it

[next spade]

well I do have basically god version already
first blessing was rampage 3

[tall torrent]

Supercharge isn’t that good unfortunately

Ideally you want power cycler + BM/sunder

[next spade]

what was bm?

Ill have this one also but VI

both are really amazing tho

[tall torrent]

Brutal momentum

[junior needle]

Supercharge bad

[next spade]

ah yeah

hm ironically the MK3 with both anti carapace ones is way way worse than the VI with none

on carpace I just noticed

[tall torrent]

Because mk3 is the worse power sword

Pretty substantially worse tbh

[next spade]

no wait I mistook them
damn this stupid customization mod gets you so confused

M3 takes 3-4 hits for a crusher (non melee build) with charge
the 6 needs 8 hits which is complete garbage

[tall torrent]

Mk6 needs at most 3

Push atk > L4 > L1

If u build it right it takes just push atk > L4

[next spade]

not sure if I get the combo, when do you charge?

[tall torrent]

Special action > block cancel > push attack > L4 > L1

[next spade]

so the stab right

[stable socket]

yeah a powered stab headshot does hella damage

[next spade]

yeah seems to do twice of heavy

ok now I got it

[stable socket]

mk3 has less raw power but i like the feel more, and with +carapace i can still get a quick 3-hit crusher kill with push light light on the head without brutal momentum (i run sunder instead)

[next spade]

seems like Mk3 has the same combo basically, the push deals 150-200 dmg more even but thats likely the brittleness

its probably the supercharge doing it but m3 feels way easier to deal way more damage to armor

[midnight totem]

I'm kinda happy seeing people finding it relatively difficult for weapon specialist penance

[next spade]

any thoughts on laspistol blessings? I have infernus but even with full crit build it dosnt seem to really do anything

[tall torrent]

Dum dum + ghost/infernus

Dum dum is mandatory

[next spade]

its pretty good

[tall torrent]

Oh it’s mk10

[next spade]

but infernus really? its like 10 damage and the pistol does such high burst and slow firerate

[tall torrent]

Yea no mk10 is not that good

Mk10 doesn’t want Infernus

Mk10 wants flak+unarmored, dum dum + ghost

But it’s still just not that good

[hearty panther]

The X should have deadly accurate

[tall torrent]

Mk10 is basically MG12 but it takes 3~4 hits to kill a flamer

It’s just not good

[next spade]

X is the new one the slower one right yeah

[tall torrent]

Yea and it’s horrible

[hollow ibex]

It has better pull out game

[hearty panther]

Its just an aggressive K12 really

better mobility, hipfire, draw

and pretty wild flak numbers

[tall torrent]

The maniac ttk really kills it at least for veteran

I would unironically take a recon mk2 over the mk10 Laspistol for killing flamers

[hearty panther]

after that ragers nerf idk

theyre very easy in melee now

[tall torrent]

Rager nerf is a lot better I like it

[hearty panther]

the hardest part is not double dodging out of habit >.>

[next spade]

they need to do something with laser in general

[civic knot]

Any suggestions?

[midnight totem]

This is almost perfect as is

[next spade]

also how is laser the worst on maniac, its like the only thing where laser really would hurt, on bare flesh

its great you can keep it, try bloodletter the trick where you jsut tag and run away, if you dont like that put the kill damage one on it

[midnight totem]

Maybe crit to manic, or Unyielding or carapace

[next spade]

id put carapace on it, its a carapace destroyer weapon in general thats the purpose

[midnight totem]

I don't recall the breakpoints

[tall torrent]

Bloodletter -> slaughterer
Crit chance -> carapace/elite

[civic knot]

I want it for the fact that you dont want to invest in crit to make it shine

[civic knot]

thats what i thought yea

[next spade]

its the best weapon ingame if you play maelstrom scab melee only

[civic knot]

Why slaughterer tho? isnt headtaker bloodletter good?

[midnight totem]

Bloodletting isn't really necessary on a chainaxe

Unless you really hate bosses

Even then

You'll get more overall bang for your buck just by stacking more POWER

[next spade]

jesus i just tried the X pistol, not doing that again

[midnight totem]

I like the x pistol...

[ebon umbra]

use what you like

[next spade]

I guess its for a very mixed melee ranged mobility build

[tall torrent]

+40% power & +25% melee power hits much harder generally speaking

[quick burrow]

whats the normal mk5 colum IAG build? shout with focus or marksman?

[tiny summit]

It is. Try it out with Agile Engagement and Weapon Specialist. It becomes basically more of a laser deagle for priority targets like bombers, snipers and trappers

[idle swallow]

MkX laspistol just needs to shoot a smidgen faster and I think it would be in a good spot

[crimson pebble]

What best perks for knife

[idle swallow]

You doin horde clear or elite takedowns

[crimson pebble]

Using if w plasma so could do either

[tall torrent]

Carapace/flak/elite

That’s for veteran

Idk zealot breakpoints for knife

[crimson pebble]

The ones on it rn are 15block efficiency and 8% dmg to specialists which do you think i dump

[radiant chasm]

dump block effi

at least specialist gives you something

[tiny summit]

I think the mkx is fine. I think many other weapons are just too strong

[radiant chasm]

if barely

[sinful swallow]

I run shocktrooper to have a mega ammo efficient laser deagle as the idea

[tiny summit]

Yep

[sinful swallow]

Never have to take ammo packs, still one shot specials

[tiny summit]

Mkx is pretty good actually. It's just also you know competing with weapons that cook, clean and do your taxes

[sinful swallow]

Can even spam horde with pen and STILL not worry about ammo

True

[tall torrent]

Neither is that great

[midnight totem]

Pretty sure my plasma only does cooking because cleaning and reloading takes a while

But cooking is 5 star

[tall torrent]

It needs some help

[tiny summit]

Well the reality is that you dont need to reload that often

[crimson pebble]

But bleed time

[tall torrent]

[idle swallow]

[crimson pebble]

[tiny summit]

Does it need help or does it fall into a niche and the other weapons we see are overtuned where they fit into any build

[midnight totem]

It needs a lil* help

[tiny summit]

You triggered the warp aneurysm

[sinful swallow]

I just want a punchier sound on it

[midnight totem]

There's not much the heavy laspistol does that the lighter laspistol doesn't do as well or thr revolver does better

[quick burrow]

i really wanna like the veteran i really do its great but every time i play i get 2-3 ogryn team mates and im reminded why i play psyker

[tiny summit]

Lacerate is bad. Just dont

[sinful swallow]

It's pretty much just the niche with shocktrooper, does lighter laspistol one hit gunners on crit headshot?

[crimson pebble]

Was either that or haymaker

[tall torrent]

Start by playing ranged weapons that have cleave
Or be very aggressive in melee

[midnight totem]

No

[tiny summit]

Yea but I get satisfying 1 taps with it with a sizable mag that doesn't reload 1 bullet at a time

[tall torrent]

If the maniac Dmg didn’t suck horrendously I think I’d have liked it more

[midnight totem]

Don't get me wrong, I have a well rolled x laspistol

I love it

[misty oar]

Its been a while since i last played whats a good veteran build

[midnight totem]

But it could use a small buff

[midnight totem]

Slightly less recoil, more fire speed, manic damage

[tiny summit]

Actually that needs to be updated

[midnight totem]

Then it'd be perfect

[tiny summit]

OfB even better now

[midnight totem]

Also it's push attack is just

Funny

[tiny summit]

Pushing your way through cringe

[midnight totem]

Even the revolver does a pistol whip

Let my laspistol do a pistol whip

[tiny summit]

I think it's only viable thing is that you can push a burster

[crimson pebble]

So is this just mid as hell or

[agile forge]

I don't think it's the normal, but I love it with e stance and mf

[misty oar]

My outfit is
The steel legion looking helemt
The combat chest and legs from the pre order

[agile forge]

It benefits so much from every part of both

Tbh i don't think e stance is normal on anything though

[misty oar]

And theres backpacks that i keep forgetting about

[tall torrent]

There’re 2 kinds of knife veterans

You either delete crushers in 3 hits or embrace the bleed meme

You decide what’s more fun to u

[misty oar]

Blood for the emperor
Skulls for the golden throne

[crimson pebble]

Iv got the plasma for the metal men so we game

[grand perch]

i mean ive been using lacerate + serrated blade and its works just fine

[tiny summit]

Gonna take my shredder nades, with my shredder pistol and my bleed/lacerate knife

[grand perch]

so go ahead if you wanna do that

[tall torrent]

Why would u play serrated blade if u already have lacerate

[tiny summit]

More

[grand perch]

yup

[tall torrent]

[tiny summit]

Gonna take serrated blade on my shredder build

[misty oar]

I wonder if the rumors of tyrinids of the planet are ever going to happen or was that monster some new nurgle pet

[umbral garnet]

VAPE KINGS

PUFF THOSE CLOUDS, BABY

Make the heretics choke on your sweet delicious flavoured air.

[misty oar]

I got serrated blade and helbore rilfe

[tiny summit]

I think the only thing living long enough for those stacks to matter is monstros

[tall torrent]

Take serrated if u play mercy killer

[crimson pebble]

Once watched a guy go whole match only using bayonet on helbore

[tiny summit]

No

Heretics deserve no mercy

They should feel the pain of 1000x annoying cuts

[tiny summit]

Not surprising anymore. Since it is a good spear

[misty oar]

That's why i like it
Im not stuck on the planet with heretics there stuck here with me

[junior needle]

Lacerate is very much a trap blessing and its usage method involves gimping yourself

You can see why if you look at the inspect screen for the knife

Weakspot hits do about 2.7x the damage

And bodyshots comparatively do very dinky damage

[junior needle]

It's not good for vet apart from the flak roll. Lacerate is just outright bad. Flesh tearer is technically more acceptable (provided you build for it) but not really competitive with other options like it can be on zealot, due to vet lacking vast quantities of on demand crit.

You also want uncanny for bleed memes (and in general because it's BIS) because it affects dots.

I'd change both blessings

[grand perch]

Ok

[north raptor]

does the smoke grenade do things now?

[last parcel]

@somber axle even the emperor is telling me to use recon

[north raptor]

AGH so many mods

[last parcel]

yes

[north raptor]

does it do good things now tho

[last parcel]

im racist against snipers so i say yes

[tribal tangle]

this in melks shop

[north raptor]

but it JUST prevents things firing at you? or does it not yet

[tribal tangle]

is in*

[tall torrent]

get it

[tribal tangle]

Swaps?

carapace

?

[misty oar]

I love this outfit

I love this sword

And the gun

I run out of ammo it makes a neat spear

[gray finch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1237137334840070194/dsad.mp4?ex=663a8d6d&is=66393bed&hm=20e4f7e7a3d28dbdc825b70497f440eff866d79e9a160bc6985680f750c00fdb&

[junior needle]

I've now realized that ammo goblins are more of an issue with the survivalist nerf

Good thing I'm not playing

[misty oar]

Yeah definitely noticed it . thankfully my gun acts like a spear

I hate the smoke gernade might change it to be something more explosive

[last parcel]

mmmm tasty. 8 ammo crate charges all for myself

[tribal tangle]

imagine using guns for things other than shooting specialists

[last parcel]

every poxwalker is special

[oblique totem]

Remember to grab the ammo bags before even reaching yellow ammo

[north raptor]

well yea thats how you get free dialogue

[hollow ibex]

Yup. Gun lugger suffers

[oblique totem]

Yeah but do Ogryns really need ammo?

[junior needle]

Does anyone ever really need ammo?

You got a melee weapon

[oblique totem]

Strictly speaking, no

So feel free to grab all the ammo you see. If the team dies, skill issue.

[idle swallow]

Skill check all your pub lobbies by taking all the ammo, sigma grindset moment

[ebon umbra]

i like to bring a bolter or a plasma when I see a gun psyker team. i say: veteran get your ammo, I will use my mind powers to defend us

even if im red i'll tell them to get it

[junior needle]

Recon users are truly the most sigma of vet players

[somber axle]

The Emperor knows best

[oblique totem]

You look like a Helldiver

[last parcel]

Prove to yourself that you have the strength and the courage to be free

[oblique totem]

Free from what?

[last parcel]

these

[somber axle]

The Helldivers 2 server has two very different halves of the community split between bugs and bots

[oblique totem]

Ah- hm.

[somber axle]

The bugs side is the wild side

The bot side is the meme side

[oblique totem]

https://tenor.com/view/starship-troopers-gif-18102989

[junior needle]

Most agree on one thing

It was very interesting to see the people who were saying "stop complaining sony won't change their mind"

[junior needle]

https://tenor.com/view/addition-to-mycollection-more-collection-gif-14095863

[oblique totem]

There is a lot of pain in this picture.

[unreal bone]

Man I'm not gonna lie

Beginning of Path of Redemption I was like

Man Tox Bombers are so cool

Now

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-sour-cat-cat-meme-cat-gif-4305398913986271634

Kill all tox bombers, behead tox bombers, drop kick tox bombers

Actually the most annoying shit in the entire game is a fucking fog of farts

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-the-punisher-wait-no-panicking-gif-22139346

[regal smelt]

I can't believe the most annoying special from previous games is once again the most annoying special

At least they don't instantly throw them upon spawning in like globes

[oblique totem]

Me hearing the audio cue for a tox bomber but can't see it

[regal smelt]

Wish the nade pin sound was different from the scab bomber so I could at least know if I'm about to be extra fucked

[idle swallow]

Giant fart reverb sfx as tox bomber pin pull que

[hollow ibex]

It is tho

[regal smelt]

Both sound like the same loud ding and aren't clearly distinct . The throws themselves are definitely different

[hollow ibex]

I thought tox bomber doesn’t have the ding

And it's just some hissing sound when it's thrown

Could be wrong 🤷‍♂️

[radiant chasm]

they both do the same throwing sound when it comes out of their hand, the projectile makes a different noise tho

[tiny summit]

And I thought 3 bombers at once was bad. 1 slippery tox bomber is torture

[tiny summit]

Need a trail of wet fart sounds as it travels before it blows

[tiny summit]

Maybe the bugs aren't that bad

[last parcel]

[regal smelt]

You can also just nullify fire by climbing on top of stuff. Tox will also stay on it's own level like fire but reaches way up so you can't get above it

[terse idol]

Yeah me too, kiiinda toxic bomber grenades typically bound alot more so fewer times will a grenade just land on me

[tiny summit]

My defense is that mantis girl henti art is good

[wise granite]

im surprised the inquisition hasnt called exterminatus on this off topic lol

though im glad helldivers isnt being screwed by sony after all

super earth and the imperium are like brothers in bad government crime

[tiny summit]

A guardsmen is only so strong to 1 really strong "hear me out"

[tiny summit]

Especially when there are tox bombers waiting for you when you're going through to map transition airlock

[wise granite]

better have your shotgun loaded

[hollow turtle]

Lol I'm constantly switching between Darktide and Helldivers. Edgy grimdarkness with RPG skill tree vs. Maniacal purging with airstrikes.
Either way, I get to enforce my religious zeal alongside my trusty and (mostly) competent squad members.

[agile forge]

For the Managed Emperocracy!

[swift bear]

How can I get a +3 stamina curio? this one says it's max rank but only has +2

[last parcel]

base rating >75

[bitter turtle]

needs to be 76 or higher rating

[swift bear]

thanks!

[bitter turtle]

75 will say 3 but it is a lie

its actually only 2

[swift bear]

I shouldn't have upgraded this then lol

oh well

[hearty panther]

i have somehow found myself utterly addicted to the bayonet