veteran-class

[bitter turtle]

If you want a change of pace

Just try infiltrate

It's a mix of offense and defense

Also don't run 10 percent rending on plasma

I don't think it does anything

[somber axle]

Executioner's Stance relies entirely on your positioning, melee fundamentals, target priority and mobility for survival. So if you are used to having Voice of Command keeping you safe so often or the get out of jail free card that is Infiltrate and you're not able to play all of those things particularly well on Veteran then you will fall when things get too hot. Even if you DO know all of those things very well sometimes the game just spawns a funny set of circumstances that will kill you regardless and there was nothing that could've been done to prevent that death LOL

[bitter turtle]

Rending above 100% armor values only works at 1/4 efficiency

[somber axle]

Voice of Command is just THAT strong of a survivability tool that like

[umbral scaffold]

which node ? ?

[bitter turtle]

So it's a really really small gain on something with good armor values like plasma

[somber axle]

you don't really need to be insanely good at those things to survive with it

[bitter turtle]

Rending strikes

[umbral scaffold]

i think its for melee

no ?

[bitter turtle]

Oh

No

It's both

[umbral scaffold]

i use it for my chain sword i think'

[bitter turtle]

But if your melee needs it

You can keep it ig

[umbral scaffold]

i kill maulers wit it

[bitter turtle]

I was thinking you just shoot everything armored with plasma

And melee horde

[umbral scaffold]

yea

[bitter turtle]

But if u melee elites and you want a boost to your chsword

Feel free to keep

[umbral scaffold]

but maulers are hard to hit they frail and twinky cant get a shot on em so i chainsword them

[somber axle]

Also geez I thought Vet was squishy but playing Psyker in matches for penances has felt SO MUCH SQUISHIER

[bitter turtle]

Just know it does very little for the plasma

Psyker is paper ye

You never understand

Just how fucking annoying

Trash mob shooters are

Until you play psyker

[somber axle]

Also Desperado is such a good talent node holy shitake mushrooms

[umbral scaffold]

with theses new builds i just realised it they were the first thing that killed me

[somber axle]

I have a fantastic Chainsword IV on my Psyker after a really bizarre Emperor's Gift

[hollow ibex]

psyker does benefit from some options that make it a lot more durable than its paper toughness

so it's not as bad as it looks

[umbral scaffold]

nopt crushers or anything, the 20 guys with guns do

[bitter turtle]

Vets can shoot them, zealots can charge them, ogryns can just ignore them

[somber axle]

and this thing doesn't feel nearly as good to use on Psyker as it does on my Vet

[agile forge]

our toughness regen is the tits for that though

[somber axle]

still very fun to use though

[last parcel]

rip and tear begins playing

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-and-tear-doom-doomguy-isabelle-isabelle-animal-crossing-gif-26156184

anyway I'm basically playing my Psyker as a Vet anyway

[umbral scaffold]

does rendinmg strikes apply to grenades ?

i wonder

they should specify primary and secondary weapons

wording sus

a grenade is a weapon afterall

[bitter turtle]

damage is increased by 'rending' / 'brittleness' and by damage buffs from Bring it Down!, Close Quarters Killzone (if within 30m to the enemy), Competitive Urge, Covering Fire (if applied to Veteran by another Veteran), Grenade Tinkerer, Longshot (if not within 8m to the enemy), Redirect Fire! (if tagged), Skirmisher, Superiority Complex (against elites), Surprise Attack, and aura Fire Team

[umbral scaffold]

as a funny joke shovels should not have the buff since shovels are tools...

[bitter turtle]

Source: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094038976

[umbral scaffold]

dang thats cool

ig im not completely stupid

[somber axle]

Also using this currently on my Psyker while trying to farm Brain Burst head pops and Shield damage penances

[last parcel]

now i wouldnt go that far

[somber axle]

literally just magical Veteran

[bitter turtle]

I don't use guns on psyker

I'm playing magic class

Feels inappropriate not to use magic staff

[last parcel]

recon is magic on psyker

it makes the team disappear

[umbral scaffold]

😭

[grizzled pebble]

Simply use p sword p gun shout and win.

[tiny summit]

Didn't think about grenades being buffed by Longshot but not surprised

[agile forge]

It's like, it's already questionable but gun psyker lives and dies by its finesse values

If I see recon, I'm expecting to see brain rupture too

and I just know

they're running fucking flayer

[last parcel]

i should run flayer with my recon

that does sound funny

[hollow turtle]

"Can I buy Helldivers 2?"
"We have Helldivers 2 at home"
Helldivers 2 at home:

[last parcel]

SWEET LIBERTY MY LEG

[woeful galleon]

"You'll never change our way of life!" he said, shouting at an increasingly agitated Daemonhost

[muted tangle]

Confused about the wording. Does this include hitting the same enemy multiple times?

[rapid palm]

no

[woeful galleon]

Supposedly, if the spread of like a shotgun, or if a bullet goes trough multiple enemies, your crit chance goes up

[vernal sundial]

helldivers at home slaps hard
thats some banger drip fren

[sterile phoenix]

What’s a go to secondary weapon for knife veteran?

[tall torrent]

I play knife + plasma

[gray finch]

anythink really

[dire olive]

You should run flesh nearer lacerate knife with a stripped down Recon II

That's the meta rn

Definitely

[half badge]

So ogre don't got much

For weapons

[radiant chasm]

ogryn just doesn't have all class weapons

they have the most unique weapons but it feels sparse cause they don't share with anyone else

[hoary horizon]

What is good axe?

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo share. But you lil uns couldnt reload it

[unique sorrel]

starting to appreciate MF a bit more due to the penance. it's for gamblers, people who think weapons perform a little too consistently

[hoary horizon]

Could still need axe. Want one that stun muties

[radiant chasm]

or for fps nuts

[unique sorrel]

it really doesn't resemble any streak mechanic ive seen before in an fps

i guess maybe the heatmaker from tf2, but that's pr niche

[dire olive]

I appreciate it more because it got a massive buff alongside the penance

[sterile phoenix]

Emperor dropped me this. Is it worth trying to save?

[dire olive]

Meh

Probably not

Ammo and damage dump

Better off just rolling from brunt's

[tall torrent]

it's bricked

[sterile phoenix]

\o/ praise the emperor for his mercy

sigh I will continue using my plasma then

[hollow turtle]

Every day, I'm adding something new to this Tanith look.

It's surprising how well the zealot cape and the psyker cape go well together.

[plush sigil]

My hero

[tiny summit]

Really it's all about how much time you put into the game to want to grind. Not max dmg and everything on it could be better. So serviceable weapon but the problem is you know you can get better

[pallid dew]

Got back into the game because of the update

New UI is really nice

[tiny summit]

The update is nice, shame theres not much of actual new to experience while grinding the new penances. Besides some small optional obectives, its "heres some rewards to keep doing stuff you have been doing for 6 months"

[pallid dew]

Yeah

Probably won't get new classes/sub-classes

Hoping to get new content in guns and missions though

Probably a more linear campagin than mission board

[tiny summit]

gonna be a glorious couple weeks when a new class drops, everyone gonna be running it

[pallid dew]

I mean we got these around the map

[tiny summit]

would be cool if they made an actual campaign, but how would that play out with the player base hopping into games. The twins fight shows this problem. Its a cool fight, I like it. I also have to basically go out of my way to play it in its own player pool

[dreamy vortex]

Just ran into a vet with a build so ass you'd think it was a joke

None of his curios or weapons had any modifications made

He just upgraded them to max and didn't touch them

He was also running res VOC which I also do but he wasn't running the toughness buff with it

His lasgun had a level 2 ghost blessing and damage against carapace armor

[iron marten]

for my sanity's sake, I will keep believing he did it as a joke

[dreamy vortex]

His chainsword was the only decent piece of gear he had

I took screenshots one sec

Need to upload them to the Xbox network so I can download them on my phone

He died 3 times throughout the mission

Would've gotten my melk challenge done if the mf actually had a build

[woeful galleon]

Of all things this one is indeed the most incredible one

[dreamy vortex]

Right?

I like the res shout personally but if you're gonna run it also run the toughness buff too

[pallid dew]

lol

I don't have a build for infiltrate right now kinda doing bad in resources

I do main VOC but I want to get that infiltrate armour

This my current shotgun I was using for VOC

Current chainsword

[austere pine]

did y'all know that a krak grenade has a faster fuse time if you stick it to sb?

[woeful galleon]

I struggle to make it work personally but a few people saved very dire games with it, but with no toughness bonus you basically shot your ability in the leg for the sake of maybe being useful at some point if you're lucky, while making you much less tough.

[pallid dew]

You guys get anything good from mystery acqusition?

[dreamy vortex]

My Xbox sucks ass and only took screenshots of these

[woeful galleon]

What difficulty were you playing?

[pallid dew]

probs damnation

worth?

[dreamy vortex]

The chainsword had savage sweep and rampage I'm pretty sure

I know it definitely has savage sweep but I'm not sure on the rest

It also had sprint efficiency and damage against maniacs

[austere pine]

losing a dash. if that's a problem for you, no. if not, get it

[dreamy vortex]

Guess

[woeful galleon]

Well this is encouraging.
...Something tells me it wasn't a nice and chill game at Malice.

[dreamy vortex]

Here was his talent tree

[dreamy vortex]

No it was damnation of course

Not an auric thank god

But still

We were grilling him in the chat

I told him to maybe try running extra wounds

He died next to a medicae bro

[woeful galleon]

Yeah, at this point it had to be.

[iron marten]

that agile engagement pick
nvm, his build is peak

[dreamy vortex]

I understand having a bad mission or 2 but goddamn

He was so bad

[woeful galleon]

I can get people not feeling like taking time to deal with the crafting, but then you spend time at malice or heresy 'till you feel like looking up a guide

[woeful galleon]

I can imagine

[iron marten]

did he just move forward into a horde and attack hoping he'll come out of the otherside

[dreamy vortex]

Yeah

[iron marten]

[woeful galleon]

True Imperial Guard Conscript roleplay master

[balmy flume]

Right, just 2 Hourglass missions and I would have unlocked another set of drip to play around with

(3500)

[woeful galleon]

I really feel like this penance is gonna make me go insane, I've even conscripted help from a friend to run a tank ogryn or a zealot and still get smacked by a random poxwalker in my blindside in the middle of a mission.

I've even completed the more advanced veteran penances, but this is a stain on the record

[balmy flume]

Your best partner is actually another Vet. Need to shoot each other over the back.
And of course, just do it on Malice level.

[pallid dew]

I should've done that bug before it got patched lol

[balmy flume]

Zealots and Ogryns tend to be a bit more forwards deploying.

[woeful galleon]

Yeah can't imagine finishing it at any higher difficulty

[pallid dew]

I'm still trying to get the ammo penance done

But obviously someone takes my kill as soon as I shoot

[dreamy vortex]

There's a modifier for mostly ranged enemies or something isn't there?

Or am I mistaken

[woeful galleon]

Maybe in maelstrom

[dreamy vortex]

Ah

[woeful galleon]

But not for normal stuff I don't think

...Ironically enoug if a malice maelstrom happened to have something like that it might make it easier

[austere pine]

anybody know of a movie or anime clip of somebody trying to shoot somebody else who's running away with a handgun but running out of bullets and inspecting their gun to check if they're actually out of bullets?

i know this exists somewhere and that my mind isn't playing tricks on me but i can't for the life of me remember where i remember this from

[dreamy vortex]

Maybe it's that airsoft anime

[austere pine]

airsoft anime..?

[dreamy vortex]

Unless it was like in a serious setting

[dreamy vortex]

Yeah

[austere pine]

very much a serious setting

[dreamy vortex]

Can't remember it's name

Give me a sec

[austere pine]

up until now i didn't even know it existed

i looked it up

[dreamy vortex]

Then not the airsoft anime

[austere pine]

looks way too modern and fanservice-y/made to be popular

[dreamy vortex]

I liked it

[austere pine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83FKo_Xj-Ks&ab_channel=ScreenBites

[dreamy vortex]

It was silly

[austere pine]

was something along the line of what hans did here at the end

[dreamy vortex]

I grew up on shitty slop anime made for the lowest common denominator

So I can still enjoy that shit in a "turn your brain off" kinda way

[austere pine]

except here he let her go/didn't bother shooting and what i'm thinking is wanting to shoot but not being able to due to lack of bullets

[dreamy vortex]

The funniest part of it to me was that it was animated to make it look like they were actually getting shot

I was also like 12 when I watched it

[austere pine]

i need this for a darktide clip btw

[dreamy vortex]

How much playtime do y'all got?

I just recently surpassed my friend

We stay up🙏

[austere pine]

some 250 hours maybe

[dreamy vortex]

Been playing since it launched on Xbox

[austere pine]

nah. 280

[dreamy vortex]

It's basically the only game I play

[woeful galleon]

250 hours

[dreamy vortex]

I occasionally play remnant 2 with my buddy but that's about it

Also Vermintide

[woeful galleon]

Bought the game on launch but my pc died and couldn't actually play it till like a year later

didn't even get the moebian 21st stuff because of it lol

[iron marten]

I have 1k hours

[dreamy vortex]

I might someday

That or I'll get burnt out

[dreamy vortex]

Though after 250 hours I still haven't maxed out my Ogryn

And I still don't have a holy relic build

[iron marten]

My ogryn is only level 22, dw

[dreamy vortex]

Or a vet build other than VOC

Or any psyker build

Psyker was the first character I got to max

[iron marten]

I’ve recently become a helbore enjoyer

[dreamy vortex]

So I just picked what sounded cool

I used scriers gaze and assail

[iron marten]

It’s just funny seeing damage numbers get ludicrously high cause of a wee bayonet

[dreamy vortex]

With a revolver

And a tactical axe I'm pretty sure

[iron marten]

The only psyker build I really have is a shield-bb with trauma

[austere pine]

@frank monolith i've finally managed to record a successful trapper chastisement technique usage

[iron marten]

I still want duelling swords to be on vet…

[austere pine]

proper push usage displayed by me here with my glorious ws, always prepared crucian roulette build

get yourself a good power sword and crucian roulette on a good revolver and try this build asap. so much fun packed into such an efficient build

[frank monolith]

i say get your self a mk 6 knife and a plasma gun they are fun to use with weapon specialist

[austere pine]

knife
ffffffffffffffffffffuck no

every person i've seen to use a knife was a complete buffoon

[dreamy vortex]

I kick ass with the knife as zealot

[sacred agate]

id rather press m1 with the eviscerator all day

[fluid briar]

What are the best blessings for the chain sword

[agile forge]

Depends on mark and purpose

[fluid briar]

@agile forge mk xiiig and to be versatile

[agile forge]

Probably Wrath and something but idk the XIIIg tbh

Just wanted to help you get a more specific answer

[fluid briar]

@agile forge to better kill flak enemies

@agile forge and unarmoured

[idle swallow]

For general horde clear you want rampage/shred on chainsword

[fluid briar]

@idle swallow and perks

[idle swallow]

Probably flak/unarmored or maniac

Mine is flak/unyielding but I like using it for boss damage in a pinch

[fluid briar]

@idle swallow thank you

[pallid jetty]

i run crit chance on hit + cleave on hit

[pallid jetty]

flac and carapace, or maniac and carapace - its a preference

[fallow fjord]

is Overwatch worth taking? 60 second cooldown seems a bit rough

[pallid jetty]

whats that? 2nd charge?

i think yes, just in case if something goes terrible

from my experience there are not many situations in which you might have to use the ability twice in a row, but still its just to be sure you can save the day

-6 secs from killing specials is mandatory if you want to get the 2nd charge

basically -threat would give you additional time, kinda

choosing to take the 2nd charge or not to take, makes your entire build different in my opinion

[slow spade]

Overwatch also gets good value from -4% cdr on the curios

[split sapphire]

That's the last time i solo que on Maelstrom missions, bleeding idiots always cost us everything

[bronze trout]

Anything less then regular damnation is god awful

Leveling other classes was the worst experience I've had in this game

[pallid jetty]

sedition is always stable

its noobs dying all the time, or cool guys speedrunning for penances

[split sapphire]

I'd rather group up with folk now then solo stuff, gettin' to be annoying

[pallid jetty]

in both situations, you can win the game

[slow spade]

simply leave if they are bothering you

the SLIGHTEST inconvience, instantly unplug my power cord

[idle swallow]

fastest alt+f4 in the west

[split sapphire]

That's a bit too far tbf. It's not like communication wise that bothers me, they just charge in like idiots, or they just wander off when people get downed

[gray finch]

the rule of mealstrom is to not stick together

[split sapphire]

That so? But why, isn't that asking for an ass whooping? No offence

[gray finch]

if you are not sticking together is easier to dodge mutants shove pox bursters

the dmg you getting is not from your mistakes but from game by giving priority someone who is behind you

[split sapphire]

Oh, well ok i kind of knew that but if course, some folks do not understand that, and wonder why they never beat them. That what you just explained is a good reason as to why it happens sometimes

[gray finch]

dog doesnt push you back the moulers and crusher cant hit you by someone else

[split sapphire]

Wish i could have learned these aspects sooner

[gray finch]

if you got hit by a mouler and crusher in 1v1 its on you

but if you got hit by them in grupe the game just decide

same with any monstums except chaos spawn that is just random

[split sapphire]

Right fair, just cause in a group if a crusher is aiming at a teammate in front of you, it could all of a sudden decide to hit you instead for any reason

[gray finch]

its aoe effect of overhead

it can wipe you team with 1 hit

[split sapphire]

All the more reason to steer clear of it and groups

[gray finch]

you dont getting hit by net that wasnt even aimed at you

[split sapphire]

Yea i'm getting it now, anyways bout the flesh bag, is it possible to dodge his grip attack but duck sliding to the right as well?

[gray finch]

i belive it just random sometimes it just grab you anyway

the only problem of this attack is that you can get hit in it flames can just melt you poxburster kills you and if gunner just start shooting before he grab you you just dead on spot

[split sapphire]

Right cause you can't escape less he throws you off somewhere

[gray finch]

its 15s stun for free
and if it doesnt push you when he attack it will be great

[fallow fjord]

lmao, completed the no melee damage penance by accident in a game with 3 psykers

[somber axle]

Have to do the Smiteker penance and this is so boring

Finished all the other Psyker penances first

"Just spam smite" the penance

[slow spade]

at least you can't fuck it up

[somber axle]

I fuck it up by spamming smite tbh

I'd rather do anything else on Psyker

[slow spade]

could try the spicier ones

[last parcel]

it’s funny magdumping infernus shots before using smite to watch them die

not efficient at all

but funny

[oblique totem]

I accidentally completed the use all ammo with 90 percent accuracy penance while trying to not lose any health to melee damage.

Slightly related, shotguns are interesting.

[somber axle]

Yeah they're really funny weapons

Fantastic headshot damage on all of them

Lawbringer with Manstopper II/Scattershot III or Scattershot IV just evaporates hordes into a burst of bloody mist

and still kills specials/elites effectively except for Crushers

I did the Marksman's Focus penance with it

headshot to 10 stacks with normal shots, load special shot, stand still and unload into hordes

easy penance

Agripina Shotgun is basically just a bolt action rifle with the special shot

Kantrael is just the solid middle ground with the highest standard shot damage but the special shot is pretty worthless imo

[hollow ibex]

the special shot on kanty is great wdym

[somber axle]

isn't that the silly special shot that just lights things on fire and only stacks fire damage equivalent to like

3 stacks of Infernus

it's like not even worth using afaik?

[hollow ibex]

the burn actually does a good amount of damage

[oblique totem]

I used the Agripina shotgun. Special shot combined with focus target made for good sniper killing

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/extended-mag-shotgun-gaming-reload-gif-21067761

[somber axle]

3 stacks of infernus is nothing in terms of damage

[hollow ibex]

it's def more than 3 stacks of infernus

[somber axle]

it needs to be much higher before infernus can do serious damage per tick

[hollow ibex]

not to mention infinite cleave

[somber axle]

yeah just run a Lawbringer with Manstopper and Scattershot if you want to feel what infinite cleave is meant to feel like

trust me it's hilarious

and I'm a clown so I know what's funny

[hollow ibex]

i don't feel the need to take manstopper on lawbringer tbh

[somber axle]

you don't need to and you can run No Repsite/Full Bore but like

if you've never seen Manstopper + Scattershot with Lawbringer special shot

[oblique totem]

Wait, are clowns funny on purpose?

[somber axle]

you definitely need to

[somber axle]

yes

I main Recon Mk VId on purpose

did you think it was an accident

[oblique totem]

I did

[hollow ibex]

i prefer flechette + scattershot on lawbringer

[somber axle]

"oops I accidentally picked a weapon most people consider to be the worst in the game LOL anyway time to kill Crushers with it"

[last parcel]

basically yeah

[somber axle]

fair but also roll up a new Lawbringer and grab manstopper instead

just try it

get a taste of clown weaponry

[oblique totem]

Some misguided sense of right and wrong and an innocence that was amusing to watch

Learning that it is on purpose makes it feel... Tragic.

[somber axle]

right? wrong? history will not remember or care about what was right or wrong in this channel

Nurgle will forget you

he will remember me

[oblique totem]

I'm perfectly fine with that

[somber axle]

the funniest clowns are remembered for the silliest jokes

[last parcel]

do you remember

the 21st night of september

[somber axle]

wake me up when september ends

[oblique totem]

I don't even remember last night

[hollow ibex]

i'll think about it if i ever get another manstopper lmao

[somber axle]

I really want to show how goofy it is

but I'd need to have some mod to spawn a horde in the Psykanium or attempt to record during a live match

in either case I do not have the time today to mess around

I must go to work

[oblique totem]

Boo work

[somber axle]

need monies to buy cosmetics

gotta look pretty

clown shoes are expensive you know?

[oblique totem]

Another layer of tragedy.

[somber axle]

my shoes jingle when I walk and that's why my friends love to play with me

I've convinced a friend who mainly plays FF14 to try Darktide purely off of the stories of my clownery

you may call me a tragic clown but this is a comedy not a drama

[oblique totem]

Well that's kind of funny

[somber axle]

and I'm here to make my friends laugh

[hollow ibex]

kantrael special shot

dispatches ragers in two hits

and kills trash very efficiently

[oblique totem]

Viewing Darktide as a comedy is an intriguing thought.

[somber axle]

Ok now fire normal shots off the Kantrael into Rager heads

You can probably 1HKO with a good Kantrael and the right talent set up tbh

So why do in 2 what you can reliably do in 1?

[hollow ibex]

uhhh because you're almost never just 1v1ing ragers

[oblique totem]

Why shoot more bullets when less bullets do same thing?
-Definitely not an ork

[hollow ibex]

same reason you'd want to use the special shot on lawbringer

[somber axle]

Atoma burns while Nurgle sends his hungriest caterpillars roaming the streets to swallow ogryns whole and you don't think this is a comedy?

My Veteran was arrested and sent to a penal legion bound for Atoma to be executed on arrival for calling corpse starch "funny tasting" and you don't think this is a comedy?

People accidentally launch themselves off of platforms, over railings and into the abyss to instant and certain death because they melee'd an explosive barrel and you think this isn't a comedy?

You must learn to laugh because there's more comedy in this game than at first glance

[somber axle]

I gotta get ready for work but I'll make time for you to show you my Kantrael 1HKO Rager heads

Be back in 30

[hollow ibex]

don't waste your time, i'm not doubting you

it's just missing the point of special shot

if anything kanty's special shot is generally considered stronger than lawbringer's

and for good reason

[oblique totem]

My vet sees only the faces of the dead and wants nothing less than the complete destruction of all heretics. He has no capacity for comedic appreciation and it would be disrespectful for me to view it any different

[winter grove]

Agri is better imho

[hollow ibex]

i like agri special shot, but gonna be real, it's pretty much a worse zarona

also serves a completely different purpose unless you're memeing with manstopper

[sinful jacinth]

And we are done..

[somber axle]

I'm not a shotgun main or expert but I have generally viewed the Kantrael Shotgun special as both the most boring and most ineffective of the Shotgun specials purely because Agripina Shotgun special slug lets you one-shot pretty much all specials/elites regardless of distance on headshot except for Crushers which it can do in 3 hits with slugs, feat none of the other shotguns can do. While you're swapping melee or pulling out a krak for the Crusher I'm making my Crushers do their best clown impression falling all over themselves until they die. Lawbringer special shines with Manstopper and Scattershot because it suddenly becomes one of the very few RANGED weapons in the Vet arsenal worth firing into hordes without looking stupid for it. If you can destroy an entire horde in 1 shot then it was ammo efficient and time efficient. Kantrael Shotgun special sets things on fire which IS funny, except like you could just 1HKO them instead. Probably niche use firing into spread Flak Ragers amidst a horde but like you could also just shoot them in the head 90% of the time because the ragers are not often grouped up for that splash unless it's a flak rager patrol with 8-10 ragers charging the group

[hollow ibex]

agri slug is just a worse zarona, though tbf zarona is very overtuned

[sinful jacinth]

The thing with Kantrael is that fire shells go pass bulwark shield.

[hollow ibex]

lawbringer is too dependent on blessings to not be shit in the damage department

[somber axle]

Agri Slug is fun if you like bolt action sniper rifle gameplay

Fun factor is a big deal for me and meta weapons are often snoozeville

[hollow ibex]

its special shot infinite cleave is situational, and not on 100% of the time like kanty's special

[somber axle]

Yeah they're strong but they sorta trivialize the game

[hollow ibex]

and it also does less damage overall than kanty's special

[somber axle]

Lawbringer does fine as a special/elite deleter tbh

[hollow ibex]

the main benefit of lawbringer's special is its horizontal spread, which is nice

[somber axle]

Just click heads LOL

You really don't even need No Respite/Full Bore to be a special/elite killer on Lawbringer and by using Manstopper/Scattershot you turn it into an anti-horde weapon too

[hollow ibex]

yes... that's the whole point of the lawbringer special

you get like ten headshots simultaneously

[somber axle]

Fire like any other gun into a horde and you'll be burning ammo and making your team regret having a Vet

[hollow ibex]

but the damage is just underwhelming

[somber axle]

Unless it is a squad of all staff psykers

They don't care if you waste ammo but they will still laugh at someone spraying their ammo into poxwalkers until they hit red ammo and spam "I need ammo!"

Expanding weapon functionality > doubling down on strengths imo

If your gun can kill Flak Ragers by tapping heads and you use it instead to set them on fire because it is funny then you do you tbh. Chase the funny. But it is less effective outside of niche moments with 3+ flak ragers to set on fire with a worse TTK than just click heads

Because the TTK is waiting on ticking fire damage

[hollow ibex]

ok, but you do the same with lawbringer too

[somber axle]

Also tbh all the shotguns outside of their special shots make them just worse Zarona Revolvers tbh

[hollow ibex]

if you're chasing single target ttk, no reason to use special shot on either kanty or lawbringer

[somber axle]

But the funny bitb

[white minnow]

it's not liek taking years for the fire to kill em

since the kant will similarly hit a bunch of enemies

[somber axle]

Is that the Agrip and Lawbringer have their own funny gimmicks with their special shots

Kant is just boring imo

Kill ragers which you can already do with your normal shots

Or

One shot entire waves of poxwalkers in probably the most ammo efficient anti-horde ranged weapon in the game

Or

Kill Crushers which the other two shotguns can't do

Clown likes funny and Kantrael special shot is funny if you like watching things burn but then I'll just use my Recon instead tbh because I can wipe ragers and Crushers with it

[hollow ibex]

wtf are you talking about

i just chose the rager as a demonstration

you're obviously not killing just ragers

[somber axle]

You can reliably 1HKO Rager heads with the standard shot on Kantraels

[hollow ibex]

the whole point of kanty is wrecking mixed hordes

with the special shot

it's something lawbringer can't do

and why lawbringer is worse

[somber axle]

I have literally never seen a Kanty evaporate hordes like a Lawbringer tbh

And I live in Damnation quickplay when not playing with a full squad of friends

[white minnow]

not even pre-nerf?

[somber axle]

Ok so like to clarify which patch was pre-nerf Kantrael Shotgun because I may have been playing other games

I return for the talent rework

[white minnow]

it was nerfed some time semi-recently

from infinite cleave to finite cleave

[somber axle]

But I played for like beta and the first 6 months of Darktide after launch, left the game, then returned for when the talent rework patch came through

[white minnow]

it was nerfed after the talent rework

[hollow ibex]

feel free to use whatever you consider fun, but lawbringer is considered the weakest of the three shotties for very good reason lol

[somber axle]

Depending on when semi-recently is, I probably never saw it like I never saw the Recon Mk VId becoming so strong that Fatshark nerfed it 21 days after it was found to be hilariously overpowered

[somber axle]

I disagree but ok

[tiny summit]

it wasnt even overpowered

it was more just decent and funny

[somber axle]

I rank them as

Agripina > Lawbringer > Kantrael for effectiveness

Lawbringer > Agripina >>>>> Kantrael for fun

[hollow ibex]

as expected of a self-proclaimed clown

[somber axle]

Yes I do have the funniest jokes

https://tenor.com/view/pomni-amazing-digital-circus-digital-circus-pomni-digital-circus-crying-gif-6877417301215952804

[hollow ibex]

yes, and clown takes to go along with them

[somber axle]

I can share my weapon tier list again if you want to edge a Psyker aneurysm irl

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/no-yes-giga-chad-giga-chad-gif-23156898

[hollow ibex]

speaking of clowns

i'm glad i put my only manstopper on agri

[somber axle]

Agri Manstopper is hilarious LMFAO

[hollow ibex]

it's not super viable, but it's funny when it works

[somber axle]

Extra funny because it's not even just Psykanium fluff

Sometimes Shotgunners will literally line up and let you do that in real matches

[fluid briar]

Which is better

[last parcel]

sandwich

[fluid briar]

I can't post a picture

[hollow ibex]

post it on imgur or something first

newer members of the server can't post images immediately

[somber axle]

Force a' Nature, Winger and Lime Green Scunt cosmetics best in slot tbh

[pseudo fiber]

I have a flechette, scattershot Kantrael that's a fun time

[hollow ibex]

unfortunately flecehtte on kanty's special only applies bleed to the first target it hits...

[pseudo fiber]

still I don't use it because it's good

I use it because that one dreg is now having a really really bad time

[proud marsh]

I keep hearing tempestus vets in my game and they sound so goddamn cool

We need something that badass for the psyker yesterday

[bitter turtle]

I mean

Think about how often a bunch of crushers are standing in an exactly straight line lol

[dusk jacinth]

thoughts

[bitter turtle]

Change infested to maniac, unyielding, elite, or carapace

[dusk jacinth]

erm ik..................

[bitter turtle]

Change slaughterer to bromentum or sunder

Idk you wanted thoughts

[dusk jacinth]

why the fuck would i add sunder

energised attacks already got 3 trillion cleave

[bitter turtle]

Sunder is the other good option next to bromentum

You can't cleave through more than like 2 or 3 ragers normally

Sunder let's you cleave multiple

Like 5? 6?

It's worse on lesser horde though

Sunder better on multiple elites that you can't oneshot

[trim hemlock]

I'm on a Hadron roll, apparently, this is the third 'good' knife rolled this week

[hollow ibex]

fair

[bitter turtle]

https://youtu.be/mqLFHXK5aaA?si=iFAov4cBYorBS8Wr

[dusk jacinth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/605892332851560451/1224103268658184292/dune_kiss.gif

[bitter turtle]

Have you seen my manstopper knife meme

[hollow ibex]

lol yeah i remember that one

surprised they didn't patch it out

[bitter turtle]

Ye

[hollow ibex]

but i'm not going to be the one reporting it

[bitter turtle]

I mean

It's kinda useless anyway tbh

Just heckin funny

[hollow ibex]

prob more practical than agri manstopper

but yeah it's funny

[bitter turtle]

fix point blank fatshark

https://i.gyazo.com/a41527ab01c0f80ae93dc94bfb687e04.png

im on my knees

[thorn lark]

i am glad someone made a video about it!

[hollow ibex]

is it bugged or shit?

[bitter turtle]

i dont know if its a bug or not

but it doesnt proc off a melee kill

it procs off a pistol whip kill

you know

the thing that does like 3 damage

[hollow ibex]

wtf

[bitter turtle]

if it wokred the way the description says

it would prob be the best agri revolver blessing

[hollow ibex]

some malicious compliance shit rightthere

"hurr durr pistol whip is a melee kill"

[hearty panther]

it used to work, dunno when it broke

[last parcel]

when they fixed bayonet + brutal momentum last patch

[thorn lark]

it is so satisfying to whip a sniper to death with it tho

[thorn lark]

that was before

they ''fixed'' that funny interaction nobody had a problem with in february iirc

[last parcel]

felt just like yesterday

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-under256kb-peepo-pepe-discord-gif-22126250

[bitter turtle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HtsbYoawdA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUFZ9U34UQ4

It was a mixed horde of:
8 poxwalkers
6 dreg bruisers
4 dreg ragers
4 dreg shotgunners

Kant did it in 6-7 shots (i dont think i needed to shoot the last bullet but i did it anyway to be safe)

lawbringer did it in 9 shots

both were manstopper lawbringer

with flaniac perks

not saying lawbringer is bad mind you

just showing you what they were talking about the appeal of kant

if its a mixed horde its a lot more efficient than lawbringer vs only poxwalkers

[somber axle]

That's cool to see. I should probably give it another try tbh. I probably have a warped perception of the performance of it just because I love the Lawbringer and Agripina so much, and paid the Kantrael very little attention after getting bored of the special shot. It's probably just another matter of me not giving the weapon a genuine try and giving up on it too soon after running it in only a few matches

Though like

Mixed hordes is where the special shot is best

I don't think it will ever outdo how fun it is to make an entire horde literally explode from what feels like a mile away with the Lawbringer

I love fighting on that bridge level just before the elevator down because the hordes rushing down make a perfect chokepoint for casually killing everything

[median crest]

Yo

[bitter turtle]

its not like it does normal hordes bad though, takes like 3 shots to down 18 poxwalkers

lawbringer should do it more efficiently if you can get the first shot to crit though yeah

[median crest]

What blessings do you guys like on the Mk VII shovel?

[bitter turtle]

since itll just evaporate all of them

[somber axle]

3 shots is 2 too many for me tbh

[bitter turtle]

thrust/uncanny with carapace/whatever for crusher charged heavy 1 shot

[somber axle]

With Scattershot it crits every time on hordes

[bitter turtle]

ya, but its tradeoffs right? you save 3 shots if enemy elites are mixed in

[median crest]

Probably maniac

[bitter turtle]

i run flak on mine

[somber axle]

Yeah that's fair and an ok tradeoff. Worse at wave clear than the Lawbringer when it comes to standard horde, better when it comes to mixed

[bitter turtle]

maniac is rather pointless i think

you already oneshot all maniacs

[median crest]

I'll see what I can roll

[somber axle]

I will probably forget but Kantrael Shotgun is on the list of weapons I should try again eventually. And that may be a very long eventually since I am hyperfocused on penance grinding on my other classes

Vet 100% done and Psyker is nearly finished too. Just need the awful Smiteker penance

Then it is time for Zealot

Saving Ogryn for last because idk what I'm doing on Ogryn and it will be the biggest hurdle

[tulip condor]

Throw to kill things, stay close to runts, charge through enemies, and shoot a lot

You’ll complete most penance doing that

[somber axle]

Very funny unlocking most of the Psyker penances while running knife or chainsword and laspistol or Kantrael Mg1a lasrifle LOL

You don't even need a staff for any of them afaik

[somber axle]

Yeah but my experience with Ogryn leveling was going Twinstubber and trying to play them like a funny giant Vet

Love the Gunlugger playstyle and love the shield melee on Ogryn

Those two things are the only things I did while leveling Ogryn to 30

I have a lot of Ogryn learning to do

Also I must go because I am at work

[tulip condor]

Think of a fat turret instead. Find a spot to post with friendlies in between you and enemies. Should be able to hand the rest from@there

[somber axle]

Ogryn one day

[bitter turtle]

ive been told the ogryn penances are fairly grindy

[somber axle]

At least Ogrynomicon exists

[bitter turtle]

realy not looking forward to it

i dont like playing oger

[tulip condor]

It’s ok I think. I only play ogryn is want to be very casual

[somber axle]

Oh I know Ogryn is strong. They're probably the most powerful class in the game honestly. I just am not very experienced with them

[tulip condor]

Gotcha

[somber axle]

For class fun I rank it
Veteran >>> Psyker = Zealot

With a big ??? on Ogryn because I never played it enough to rank it fairly

[oblique totem]

Vet best class

[somber axle]

Anyway BYE WORK TIME

Clown dance irl

[bitter turtle]

funny oneshot

[tulip condor]

Zealot cuz you can carry yourself if your skilled enough
Vet cuz you can decimate EVERYTHING with the right weapons and talents
Ogryn cuz of overall power in everything they do (just slow at it too)
Psyker…. Idk. Feel like they are good in specific situations. Personally hate that they lack dmg or survivability 1v1 against monstrosities

[tulip condor]

I use skullcrusher and uncanny. 1 frag nade seems to be enough to put crushers at breakpoint with a quick heavy attack.

[bitter turtle]

if you heavy spam, ive found skullcrusher doesnt proc very much on the VII

i could only get skullcrusher to be worthwhile on light spam mk3

maybe if you grab aspd from right tree

idk

thrust is just really useful even outside of crusher 1tap

[somber axle]

Veteran mostly because I love shooting things and tapping heads never gets old. Very versatile class with lots of funny ways to build the class to fill any role exceptionally well (anti-armour, anti-boss, anti-elite, anti-special, anti-horde) and still fill every role to some degree in the process. Infiltrate feels very fun, smoke grenades feel very fun, dumping 3 kraks and going Chainaxe into a Daemonhost to save a team mate is very fun, Lawbringer manstopper/Scattershot horde evaporation is very fun, Recon Mk VId is the most fun I have in this game of anything. You can do anything and everything to some degree and do it well even if other classes can do it better

Psyker because the spells are very fun to play around, the staves all have very fun playstyles and going Gunker to become a magical berserker with Scrier's Gaze is one of my all time fav playstyles in the game. Poking Crusher heads with Macabian Dueling Sword IV is so fun when you're dodging a horde and 5 Crushers at once. Dueling bosses is fun. Making things explode violently with Surge staff is fun. Assail knives wiping rooms is fun. The list goes on

Zealot is fun for just embracing true feral clown hours and launching headfirst into danger without fear ever. Cutting down hordes, specials and elites in melee is so, so fun with Zealot. Evis 15 Rev go BRRRRRR into Crusher head and I love 1HKO on Crusher heads with that weapon

[oblique totem]

Gun > sword

[somber axle]

Ogryn I need more experience with to comment on tbh

[oblique totem]

That's why I prefer Vet.

[midnight totem]

sword > gun

thats why I prefer vet

[tulip condor]

I probably need to try psyker again to be appreciate the class. Vet was squishy already but can take some hits thanks to VoC and that Iron will perk. Can even drop frags for cc (even knocks crushers on their ass if you can get it to go off at their feet.

Psykers cant get hit as far as I can remember. I mean they can, but most of their health will be gone. See them as ninja space wizards

[sterile phoenix]

Worth taking this further?

[bitter turtle]

1/4 useful so far

though

that sotpping power is a bit low

i would get a new one

[sterile phoenix]

What about this one?

[bitter turtle]

better

hit and run is better than stripped down imo

but stripped down is fine

more importantlty the stopping power isnt as low

[sterile phoenix]

Alright I'll take it up one more and see if I get a decent perk

Eh sprint efficiency

Probably dead now

[bitter turtle]

you'd need to yolo for gold to give you dumdum III at least

but

idk if you trust your luck that much

[sterile phoenix]

Hrm. I’ll think about it

But don’t think I have that much luck

[torn root]

the stopping power 😦

[oblique totem]

It's just so versitile.

[torn root]

on columnus only thing im willing to dump is ammo

[bitter turtle]

mobility above 51 doesnt really do a whole lot either

[torn root]

yeah but the mobility vs like 20% of a clips worth of bullets

idk

both of them arent importnant

aren't ''as'' important*

[opaque crane]

My game consistently crashes when I open the body cosmetic window

[last parcel]

bro got fatsharked 💀

[torn root]

not sure what would fix it but my game has been running better after reducing the threads

went down from 5 to 3

no more crashes

[opaque crane]

I’ll try and yeah I got fatsharked for sure ☹️

[oblique totem]

No cosmetics for you

[opaque crane]

no cosmetics for me

[somber axle]

Psykers are the squishiest class tbh. You have to be really good with positioning, awareness, target priority, melee fundamentals and know your spells/staves well to have comfortable survivability on Psyker. Or just become Smiteker and spam Smite like a lot of awkward Psykers and end up making most things safe except for the one Dreg Bruiser sneaking up behind them to slap them on the ass

Even compared against my silly 3 Stam curio Vet, my Psyker still feels squishier

And I love it tbh

Nothing more intense than trying to dance with 5 Crushers in melee using the Macabian Dueling Sword IV knowing even a single overhead strike will kill you

And then WINNING

[last parcel]

it's

arousing

[somber axle]

Yes

[oblique totem]

I would not say arousing

[somber axle]

Psyker using Macabian Dueling Sword IV special to stagger a Rager and then poking their head to kill is so fun

[oblique totem]

But that is a great feeling

[somber axle]

I'm battlesexual

I have no interest in men or women, I have only interest in fighting

The clown must dance

[oblique totem]

You can't marry a fight

[somber axle]

I can marry a war

[oblique totem]

It will not love you back

[somber axle]

Tbh boomers made a meme out of loveless marriages so idk if that matters

[oblique totem]

I- Hm.

[somber axle]

Old guys going "haha I hate my wife am I right fellas??"

[oblique totem]

Fine. If boomers can have loveless marriages, you can marry war.

[somber axle]

I will

I will marry every war in every game all at once

[oblique totem]

Talk to the zealots, arrange a ceremony.

[somber axle]

Oh btw Content Warning is really fun

Would recommend

Amazing game with friends for goofing off

[oblique totem]

I have been recommended it.

But I need friends

And also a sense of humor

[last parcel]

bro's a servitor 💀

[oblique totem]

Nuh-uh

Servitors have friends.

I mean, probably.

[somber axle]

"Hey there YouTube it's ya cat clowning on monsters at it again. Look at this fucking blender monster. Blenderman?? Haha. I get it. Like SLENDERMAN, right guys??" Gets my ass eaten by snail monsters sneaking up behind me while the camera is in selfie mode

Friends losing their shit watching the video on playback after the mission

Priceless

[oblique totem]

That does sound pretty amazing

[molten hound]

is the ranged crit chance bonus on the revolver a flat additive percentage

or is it a percentage of veterans 10% base crit chance

[rigid pilot]

Is additive

But vets no longer have 10% base crit chance

I think

[molten hound]

ive stacked about every crit bonus i can get on this thing and still crit 2 out of 5 shots on average

dunno what gives

[bitter turtle]

you have about 51% bvase crit on revolver

even with most of the bonuses on the tree

ignoring stuff like opening salvo

this is why you run surgical

to fill in the missing 50% it only takes about a second of aiming

[molten hound]

i run surgical and crucian

[bitter turtle]

critting 2/5 makes sense with 51%

that's about the expected result

dont run crucian

its really low value

imo, even on the fan revolver, its not really worth it

outside of le funny psykarium boss oneshot meme

[rigid pilot]

Surgical it self already makes up the crit, you don't need crucian

[bitter turtle]

if you are using the fan revolver you simply can't really make it guarantee to crit the entire salvo

in practical scenarios

if you want to boost fan damage

you should run sustained fire/run n gun

[rigid pilot]

Trickshooter?

[bitter turtle]

run n gun has a hidden 10% close range power bonus

no trickshooter is meme too

sustained fire description is wrong, it boosts 2nd to 4th shot

so its a 20% on 2, 3, 4

run n gun is 10% on all 5

[rigid pilot]

Yea kinda felt like that when I was testing

[bitter turtle]

those are better for fanning

if you want to be more guaranteed crit but pinpoint slower shooting with fanning just as an emergency

just run surgical

[rigid pilot]

The real answer is handcannon, rending as broken as it is right now boosts damage on most enemy types

[bitter turtle]

yes

handcannon on 2nd blessing always

im talking about 1st blessing mostly

if

they ever fix point blank

it would be the best one bar none

imo

20% crit boost after a melee kill makes your fans 71% chance to crit across the board

but right now its a meme because it only procs of pistol whip kill

[rigid pilot]

I think it procs on melee kill? At least the icon shows

[bitter turtle]

it does not

[rigid pilot]

Haven't tested it with the crit chance mod

[bitter turtle]

test it yourself if you dont believe me

no

you dont need that

you can just look at the icon

its bugged rn

[rigid pilot]

So the icon is lying

[bitter turtle]

no its not

have you actually tested it

[rigid pilot]

Not in a big enough number of shots no

[bitter turtle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1cf38ui/is_this_actually_how_the_revolver_perk_point/

no

its literally

just not going to proc

on a melee kill

the icon does not light up/appear whatever

ive done this myself and got the same result but someone else recorded so it saves me the trouble of opening the game and recording

you only can get it to proc pistol whipping

[rigid pilot]

I definitely do remember the icon lighting up on melee weapon kill

[bitter turtle]

yes

that was before they bugged it and it does not do that now

[rigid pilot]

I see

[bitter turtle]

ive done a lot of theory/testing on agri revolver

so im pretty familiar with all the options

[rigid pilot]

So it was lying

[bitter turtle]

the description is

yes

not the icon

the icon is how we know the description is lying

[oblique totem]

Fatshark being fatshark

[molten hound]

lol

[rigid pilot]

I run weapon spec revolver with agile engagement and it works really well

Guaranteed one shot crit on revolver will delete any special (other than mutant)

Also free reloads is insane

[rigid pilot]

Also when you say 51% I assume that includes Deadshot?

[bitter turtle]

yes

25(deadshot) + 21(80 crit bonus) + 5 base crit rate

51% crit

you could pick up an extra 5% on the side node but its not really all that significant

or worth the point imo

doesnt save you any time on surgical at least

[rigid pilot]

True, unless you really want crucian memes

If crucian is set up such that the last shot is guaranteed crit maybe it will see more play

[bitter turtle]

crucian will never guarantee the last shot

at least with the talents we have now

it will be

even with the 5% crit

56-62-68-74-80%

but my problem with crucian is not just reliability

[rigid pilot]

It should give 50% on the last shot

[bitter turtle]

its also that the biggest bonus only comes at the very end of your fan

realistically

you do not really fan anything with all 5 bullets

except monstros

[rigid pilot]

All 5 bullets very unlucky vs crushers

[bitter turtle]

that's why i said le meme monstro psykarium kils is the point of it

yeah

but like

thats counter-productive isnt it?

crucian is a consistency boost

but consistency makes it worse?

[rigid pilot]

Yea it's true if you crit earlier the later crit will just miss

[bitter turtle]

truthfully most enemies go down in 1 or 2 crits at most

besides crushers

even for agri revolver

[rigid pilot]

How's the delay on crucian

[bitter turtle]

delay?

there's no delay, it just counts the number of bullets you have left

[rigid pilot]

Gap between shots

[bitter turtle]

no need to delay

that would make it completely pointless

if you had to hold shots

why not just use surgical then

[rigid pilot]

True when surgical exists

If only point blank worked properly too

[bitter turtle]

yeah

just gotta wait for them to unfuck it ig

[rigid pilot]

Idk if they really intended to only let it proc on pistol whip kill

[rapid palm]

How was it figured out that run & gun gives +10% power>?

im curious

[rigid pilot]

It's on many classes

Psyker has it

Ogin has it

[bitter turtle]

not sure

[rigid pilot]

Iirc it was stated in the ogrynomicon

You can read about run and gun kickback

[bitter turtle]

it also has a stability bonus too

something like less sway or osmething idk

forgot

[rigid pilot]

It also works on purgatus staff I tested it personally

But it's extremely meme

[bitter turtle]

so its actually quite nice as a blessing

assuming you are in

close range

[rapid palm]

ah okay

[bitter turtle]

of course

[rigid pilot]

You burn stuff then you start sprinting in circles for the 10% burn buff

[rapid palm]

so, should you also run surgical over curitian on the single fire revolver?

[bitter turtle]

the single fire?

there is no contest whatsoever

surgical/handcannon

[rigid pilot]

I even run surgical on the fanner

[bitter turtle]

no other choice is remotely valid

on the fan revolver?

if you want to fan all the time

like just fan everything

i would sustained or run n gun

if you want to guarantee crits

run surgical

that's imo

[rapid palm]

okay

[bitter turtle]

some would say

the 2nd option for fan revolver

[slow sky]

its here
after almost a year and a half
its here

[bitter turtle]

is just a bad single shot revolver though

which

to be fair

it is

[rigid pilot]

Fanning is so inconsistent, I fan and the rager doesn't even die 😔

[bitter turtle]

but i find the fan revolver to be a balanced version of single shot (which is overpowered)

so i find it more fun to use

i also think fanning only in emergencies is probably the best way to use it

it has a niche of being less dependent on weapon specialist as well even if you run it with surgical compared to the single shot revolver

can do other keystones or spread your points out elsewhere so there's more build flexibility

[slow sky]

i have won today

[rigid pilot]

Peesword with peecycler

[slow sky]

i can finally pee

ive held it in for over a year

[rigid pilot]

A pee that would make nurgle blush

[last parcel]

ay my mouth right here bb girl

[hollow ibex]

wat is this convo

[slow sky]

i dont even plan on using this sword that often since i rarely play vet and dclaw still exists

[rapid palm]

I have no fucking idea

[slow sky]

but i am just so happy to have a really fucking good psword

[rapid palm]

I am trying to get power cycler 4 myself, I have a great sword to put it on, but ya kinda need it for the weapon to be viable

[slow sky]

thats what this one was being saved for

[hollow ibex]

had pc3 for a while, and pc4 is hell of an upgrade

[slow sky]

i had pc3 on it too

[rapid palm]

untill then im sticking with MK III shovel

[hollow ibex]

now you just need brumentum or sunder

[rapid palm]

I have BM 4 on PS

[hollow ibex]

preferably on a mk6

[rapid palm]

yeah MK 6 is great

[slow sky]

i did have this psword before the mk6 was introduced and i kinda wanna make one of those

[rapid palm]

especialy if your running a ranged weapon that sucks vs carapace

[slow sky]

but idk if i have the materials for it what do you guys think

[rapid palm]

I see you got in on the loan from FS

[slow sky]

if anyone wonders why i have this much shit

its not just cuz i play a ton

its cuz i get things like this

on my first purchase

https://tenor.com/view/falling-falling-down-stairs-stairs-meme-funny-gif-21363126

why hadron clown
this shit is good as hell

[last parcel]

hadron clussy

hadrussy

[woeful ibex]

oh god

[somber axle]

That's a lot

Ready for the crafting rework

[tough tiger]

any eta on that rework?

i, too, am hoarding half the plasteel that exists in the moebian domain

[tame lodge]

Late this year

[oblique totem]

Hadron talks a lot of shit for someone within chainsword range

[hollow ibex]

i would guess 3 months based on fatshart's update cadence lol

assuming it's the next update that is

[tough tiger]

i hope they dont mess it up

[hollow ibex]

don't we all

[leaden hollow]

hot piss

[oblique totem]

Why do I keep getting disconnected just at the end of missions, completely robbing me of the rewards but not at any other point?

[midnight totem]

finally done

with Indefatigable

on Damnation + only

[fallow fjord]

is it before the extract cutscene?

[bronze trout]

Love losing my auric streak because some one decided to rez me in fire

[oblique totem]

Yep

Specifically right after or before entering the extraction point

[fallow fjord]

have you checked your weapons/curios and materials? I've had that happen to me as well, but it's never been too early to "count" for finishing the mission.

[oblique totem]

Same one's I've been using this whole time. No changes within the last three days or so

[crude fiber]

hows everyones barell kills coming along

[night sparrow]

i'm not gonna make it

[crude fiber]

its the new 1,000,000 kills

at a wopping 300

[night sparrow]

i'm only at 192 and i've just finished the zealot and ogryn penances

[midnight totem]

I think I'm at 144?

Anyway, now that I finished my 15 no down run, I can just play the game.

[hollow ibex]

wow i sure love losing my auric streak because my teammate set off a barrel and threw me off the map

[devout fiber]

yeah im sure you got enough materials.

[devout fiber]

Plenty.

[trim steppe]

that was my biggest fear. I played all 10 matches more aggessively towards barrels than heretics

[hollow ibex]

i think you can lose the streak by loading into an ongoing match that fails the moment you join too

but losing it to a barrel explosion is prob the second most frustrating way to lose the streak

so fucking annoying

[trim steppe]

Yeah you can. That's also why I would alt-f4 the second it showed me on a valk instead of the pregame lobby

[hollow ibex]

typical shit design i'd expect of fatshart

[trim steppe]

Such an abusive relationship. I wish I could quit them, but the heretic slaying is just too good

[hollow ibex]

yeah the combat is what keeps me around lol

[trim steppe]

Thats damn impressive. I'm at 15 lol. Whats your strat?

[slow sky]

shoot every fucking barrel with a weak enemy next to it

if you see a barrel and a good number of groaners poxwalkers etc are chasing you, just bait them into the explosion

obv take into account your teams position

but if theres a few weak guys next to it youll typically get at least 1 kill

[somber axle]

Just wait for the inevitable smiteker to Smite a horde and then look for a barrel amidst the horde

Easy kills

[wanton dawn]

Tbf mid-game join are mostly cancer

Spawning in the middle of a special horde, back to the dh, with 1 wound left and no ammo in mag

[hollow ibex]

yeah that too

though usually i'll give it a shot

[wanton dawn]

Not during streak

[hollow ibex]

yeah

the whole "streak breaks" loading into an ongoing match that fails is fuckin stupid beyond belief

[trim steppe]

I got 4 more last match 💪 I'll be done in just 17 short years

[trim steppe]

not to mention that even if you pull it off, mid-game wins dont count toward your streak anyway

[hexed cloak]

so many enemies to kill with barrels

[rigid pilot]

I finally got 100 barrel kills

[frank monolith]

When im on my zealot and i lose some dmg since the pysker keeps smitting so i cant proc dualist https://tenor.com/view/sad-pepe-gif-24668210

[oblique totem]

A tragedy of shakespearean proportions.

[somber axle]

If you happen to meet me trying to do that dumb Smite penance please know that I am trying to finish it as fast as possible because I think it is awful game design and I apologize LOL

[bitter turtle]

smite penance shows you how little dmg your teammates actually do

as you beg them to finish off the enemies you are stunning

[somber axle]

Nah just do creeping flames shriek smite

Extends Smite duration and the flames help kill hordes

[bitter turtle]

cant

[somber axle]

Sometimes I even get rager kills

[bitter turtle]

had to use shield :^)

to do the shield penance

[somber axle]

Burn and shock to kill

I did shield penance with brain burst penance

It was very fun using my Kantrael Mg1a on my Psyker and using the shield as deployable cover anywhere I wanted to safely snipe back at gunners

[bitter turtle]

i think i will have to skip the do 100 missions penance for psyker and ogryn

i hate playing these two

[somber axle]

Brain burst to kill Bulwarks/Crushers

I'm dreading the Zealot Loner penance tbh

That one feels grindy

[bitter turtle]

its not that bad

[somber axle]

And it also feels like purposely trolling your team for a penance

[bitter turtle]

outside of some other teammate trying to keep coherency with you

its not really trolling ifo you're actually good at playing stealth

[somber axle]

Leave your team behind to go backstab 1 gunner at a time using shroud

[bitter turtle]

so just dont get trapped or dog like 10 miles away

you dont need to use shroud

get into melee range with enemy trash gunners

they attempt to do a melee bayonet attack

dodge and hit behind them

[somber axle]

How are you backstabbing without shroud with loner?

[bitter turtle]

if you used shroud every single time for 1 kill it would take years

[somber axle]

Bulwark and Crushers are easy but like

The others turn sorta fast I think

[bitter turtle]

i just told you

engage in melee with trash shooters

they will attempt to bayonet stab you

[somber axle]

Hmm ok

[bitter turtle]

side step, walk behind them as they slowly recover from the animation

save shroud for elites

because you need the elite backstab shroud penance too

[somber axle]

I will try this but I am still grabbing Shroud because I hate the idea of purposely leaving my team

[bitter turtle]

its not trolling unless you die

[somber axle]

So if I need to stealth and run back to help the team it's an option

[bitter turtle]

then its trolling

[somber axle]

It's trolling always in Damnation quickplay when the newer players need to stick together to survive tbh