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#veteran-class
hollow ibex
trim hemlock
Never have I dreamed of rolling Uncanny 4 in the other slot
hollow ibex
flesh tearer technically isn't a S tier blessing for vet knife
trim hemlock
But I am ready to embrace the "commando" Vet
hollow ibex
but i like it anyway
agile yew
Im in the Uncanny+Precog camp with knives after playing Zealot, but Zealot has that massive boost to headshots and crits talent too
hollow ibex
keep it for the crafting rework
waxen veldt
Yeah I'll definitely hang onto it
Also the next patch better have a way to favorite weapons I swear to god, Fatshark
hollow ibex
lol i just ended up installing the weapon rename mod
also next patch desperately needs to include some weapon balancing passes
cedar abyss
keep it for the crafting rework
Why đ¤
hollow ibex
Why đ¤
it sounded like they're making it harder to brick weapons but who knows
it's just speculation and copium
waxen veldt
lol i just ended up installing the weapon rename mod
Yeah I haven't gotten any mods yet, but I'll probably end up doing that.
hollow ibex
yeah i did that after accidentally selling my best rumbler 
waxen veldt
I get anxiety whenever I clear out my weapon list :v
cedar abyss
it sounded like they're making it harder to brick weapons but who knows
I keep hearing a lot about this crafting reweork or whatever but I'm just using up my shit đ
unrelated but a T4 blessing on a blue is weird
waxen veldt
graia brauto
oops
meant to search :v
But I guess I'll ask, any reason to use a graia brauto?
waxen veldt
Okay that's good enough for me lol
Yeah I have a decent agri, but I just got a good graia too, and look
I cant say no to super high fire rates
hollow ibex
yeah fair enough, but keep in mind you'll need to brace to get the max rof
i'm not a fan of that
tame lodge
But I guess I'll ask, any reason to use a graia brauto?
Suppressive fire
Left side artwork cosplay
waxen veldt
ugh what I would give to have that belt fed stubber...
cedar abyss
I cant say no to super high fire rates
Same but the VI Recon is so much fun
trim hemlock
Im in the Uncanny+Precog camp with knives after playing Zealot, but Zealot has t...
Precog/Riposte require you to âfishâ dodges at opportune times in order to trigger them, which I donât really like, but there is no doubt merit in using them
The ones I picked just seem more consistent/donât require me to keep a certain rhythm to my dodges
agile yew
Yeah as knife zealot i just constantly spam dodges on sides while attacking
hollow ibex
yeah does it really matter that much when you're consantly dodging in hordes anyway? đ¤
balmy flume
So according to the Vet doc the Laspistol has built in Suppression immunity.
âŚ
Am I right in thinking it only applies when you are actually shooting/holding said Laspistol?
(Mobility is critical at times so it would be nice to know lol)
tall torrent
So according to the Vet doc the Laspistol has built in Suppression immunity.
âŚ
A...
Suppression is wild sway when you ADS and get shot at
Or in some weird cases, inherent bullet spread when you ADS and get shot at (recon lasguns)
balmy flume
Ah ok. Wouldnât matter if I was holding my P Sword then I suppose. (Since at that point I should be swinging it anyways)
tall torrent
You canât get suppressed when you are not aiming down sights, basicallly
trim hemlock
yeah does it really matter that much when you're consantly dodging in hordes any...
It depends. Timed dodges only trigger Riposte/Precog/Reciprocity
If you dodge too early, you will not get these buffs
hollow ibex
yeah i feel like riposte at least would give enough consistency
trim hemlock
And I donât want the aforementioned blessings/skills to interfere with my dodge rhythm greatly 
hollow ibex
i'm running uncanny/flesh tearer anyway rn
tried a shooting-heavy run last night
even with 3 psykers on the team, really felt that surv nerf lol
grizzled pebble
Unnerf the aura 
severe gale
~~Nerf Blaze trauma instead~~
how good is blaze trauma, ive never tried it
trim hemlock
how good is blaze trauma, ive never tried it
One of the better Psyker builds, frankly
severe gale
whos frank
trim hemlock
Insane control coupled with swarm clear capabilities
trim hemlock
whos frank
Itâs my beloved
midnight totem
Frankly, friend to Bruntly
midnight totem
I really like my heavy laspistol
But sometimes, the revolver headshot is more satisfying
tall torrent
how good is blaze trauma, ive never tried it
Trivialize the game
trim hemlock
Well itâs either buff Blaze Trauma and remove Scavenger, or nerf Blaze Trauma and make Scavenger great again 
grizzled pebble
Buff blaze trauma screw ammo.
balmy flume
Best course of action
We all back to Vermintide now, with friendly fire for CQC attacks.
unique sorrel
they should make survivalist a psyker aura
somber axle
They should make Survivalist Aura give extra ammo back on ammo tins and ammo packs but keep the cooldown to let players enjoy increased ammo economy and encourage them to scavenge for ammo in levels to learn chest locations while discouraging overtaking ammo because the CD will mean spam picking up ammo doesn't proc the effect and encourages someone to share ammo with others in their squad
this is going to be my new silly thing to say any and every time this comes up until maybe the devs hear it
unique sorrel
i like it, just needs a way around the anti-synergy between coherency and scavenging
somber axle
the coherency thing encourages teams to stay together to get the benefit because running off solo from the team and getting caught in a trapper net/under a dog is silly
balmy flume
I mean, scavengers gonna scavenge.
I have seen entire teams splitting up in Auric Damnation to explore(?) IDK why?
unique sorrel
split up to look for clues
somber axle
a new day, a new match for Lawbringer Marksman's Focus 10 stack kill grinding
Manstopper Scattershot wide special shots are so fun
trim hemlock
a new day, a new match for Lawbringer Marksman's Focus 10 stack kill grinding
That unironically seems quite an effective way of stacking that penance
somber axle
I mean, scavengers gonna scavenge.
I have seen entire teams splitting up in Auri...
you'll never stop a solo player from running away from the team and if they're going to run off you can't really do anything but stick with the other 2 members of the squad and be ready to support if they get overwhelmed and run back to you leading a parade of awful LOL
somber axle
That unironically seems quite an effective way of stacking that penance <:whatth...
it has been and it's also very fun because hordes literally explode violently into clouds of blood
trim hemlock
I wonder if I have some memey Lawbringer to do this on
somber axle
I've had quickplay people asking how I'm doing it
I have bad perks but tbh the perks don't matter for evaporating hordes
unique sorrel
Wbringer
trim hemlock
Oh yeah, Iâm aware it makes hordes into fine, thin red paste
somber axle
just need the two blessings
balmy flume
you'll never stop a solo player from running away from the team and if they're g...
On that note, my other pet peeve.
Front players running ahead and just ignoring the back whilst myself and another Vet/Psyker (usually) are still clearing a back spawned horde.
Like yes I get you want to outrun the backspawns but they donât just magically disappear you know
somber axle
On that note, my other pet peeve.
Front players running ahead and just ignoring ...
That's fair but I love pulling up either frontline or backline support depending on my squad's needs
more kills for me
trim hemlock
I have... this, I suppose
somber axle
if you want to be a little shit while using the lawbringer manstopper scattershot thing use it with infiltrate and -90% threat node
then you can stand next to someone else engaged with a horde
freely reload special shells
delete horde
trim hemlock
Oh I do have a build, don't worry about it
(top of the tree is the entire right branch)
I might want to take CQKZ instead of Reciprocity
but close to 100% crit chance could be funny
I might also get rid of Overwatch and pick Desperado for the Combat Blade
tulip condor
On that note, my other pet peeve.
Front players running ahead and just ignoring ...
People really be thinking like that. Literally was told "They will spawn ahead of us".
Like no dumbass. It's if you go to another section of the map
somber axle
Oh I do have a build, don't worry about it <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239...
NICE
I love movement speed aura but I'm using this currently
I just really love dropping 3 tinkerer boosted kraks into a boss and deleting massive chunks on their health pool
and also like having the extra krak handy for large numbers of crushers/bulwarks
trim hemlock
I just really love dropping 3 tinkerer boosted kraks into a boss and deleting ma...
I would have gone for this one, had I not wanted to get the penance done for using speed aura
somber axle
I could probably drop the camo stance node from Marksman's Focus and pick up Trench Fighter for the melee speed but camo stance is comfy for just heady empty no thoughts 10 stacks ezpz
don't have to think about headshot kills or look at the buff
just stand still for a little bit, click a head or two and then begin special shot horde evaporation
trim hemlock
I'm too lazy to do that
somber axle
nah I don't crab LMFAO
it's funny but I'm only really crouching sometimes if I'm trying to hit a sniper far, far away with the lawbringer to try to keep the shots on target
faint beacon
Look I flew through the penance cause of crab maxing lmao
gilded wraith
Carapace or Unyielding?
somber axle
yeah this penance is surprisingly easy
I'm almost there
I'd have it done already but quickplay damnation has some funny people lately who need babysitting
surprisingly further along for the 500 krak kills than the Voice of Command penance
dreading voice of command penance because I dislike it so much
gilded wraith
That is suprising.
somber axle
it's a very boring survivability ability for me
very, very strong
it makes the game boring
somber axle
in the same vein as Plasma/Power Sword
the game becomes a cakewalk
I'd rather it be a crabwalk
gilded wraith
Turn it into a mini game... see how many enemies you can shout off of places.
candid agate
i really want to find a way to make my veteran look like venom snake from mgsv
somber axle
the infiltrator and smoke nade penance cosmetics could be good fits
candid agate
i was more thinking about the face
candid agate
but yeah those are good
old quail
which is the best thing the update has delivered
fiery geyser
does opening salvo work on shotguns
faint beacon
Value
candid agate
https://streamable.com/hfpwqr
krak grenade my beloved
somber axle
(do not ask how)
ok but how 
candid agate
btw guys is anyone experiancing a glitch where my veterans helmet goes randomly yellow painted
old quail
ok but how <a:eyesshaking:444553396700053515>
it involves 3 friends and the end of smelter complex
it took me 37 minutes in total
probably 15 just spent at the end meleeing the constant trash spawns (nothing else spawns once you're allowed to leave)
trim steppe
it involves 3 friends and the end of smelter complex
yeah probably the easiest way, get people who arent in a rush to let you stand in place and melee trash spawns
I've been doing that during normal events for 1-2 mins at a time, usually get like 400 per mission the last 4 missions, i'll be done in no time
grizzled pebble
You can do it yourself with many more tries mod.
Solo penance took 35 mins for 2.5k kills.
Relay station mid event is good for it. Fast to get there.
Just watch for specials though if you do it there. Go into one of the hut and spam the door.
umbral scaffold
it's a very boring survivability ability for me
Very fun to earn your survivability with the headshot toughness regen and marksmen focus toughness replenishment
I like voice of command, but itâs ainât as fun compared to executioners stance and double charge infiltrate
I either like going crazy in ranged combat or running into a group of shooters with a combat blade
somber axle
it involves 3 friends and the end of smelter complex
oh LOL
somber axle
Very fun to earn your survivability with the headshot toughness regen and marksm...
I like living nigh-exclusively on mobility survival
dodge, block, shove
positioning
mess up with those and die
trim steppe
You can do it yourself with many more tries mod.
what does that mod do exactly?
umbral scaffold
Combat blade and stripped down Columnus goes hog wild
grizzled pebble
what does that mod do exactly?
Let you play online solo with bots.
trim steppe
Let you play online solo with bots.
Many More Try? The mod page has little info but it looks like it lets you play expired map IDs. Does that prevent quickjoin by others?
grizzled pebble
Yes. 
trim steppe
Yes. <a:yesgryn:1024009817846710434>
Damn. That's awesome, had no idea there was a workaround for solo mode lol
grizzled pebble
I did a bunch of annoying penances that way.
Like psyker bubble, vet 2500 kills.
trim steppe
Yeah this woulda been super useful to have months ago lol. Better late than never I guess!
grizzled pebble
You can do psyker monster kill penance that way too without asking others for help.
trim steppe
You can do psyker monster kill penance that way too without asking others for he...
assuming you kill off the bots first đ . I had to put together a premade on here to do that one
trim hemlock
xd
austere pine
i wonder why psword 6's stab deals so much damage
crude fiber
Meme lawbringer build will get you a lot if your ok with shooting hoards
trim steppe
You can do it yourself with many more tries mod.
I have this mod now but I'm missing something, how do you find old missions?
Oh nvm, I see the "save mission" thing now. Gotcha
austere pine
either of these good at milk's place?
wait the 13g is like the perfect horde clearer
terse idol
I mean you never take infested/groaner
austere pine
but imagine the horde clear with that thing..!
wanton dawn
Horde of groaner and walker are not dangerous though
austere pine
what if they are, though?
wanton dawn
The problem is the meaty mauler in the middle blocking cleave
candid agate
savage sweep?
austere pine
đ
austere pine
The problem is the meaty mauler in the middle blocking cleave
that's what friends are for!
nocturne hazel
And its not like poxwalkers have much health
wanton dawn
that's what friends are for!
The mauler is certainly taking the hit for the team 
austere pine
that's it. i'm doing a vape nation build
normal spruce
Auric Maelstrom genuinely requires communicating teammates, we have been fighting for so long while the tree destroying objective requires a repair, everybody who tries to repair the objective instead of constantly horde clearing gets obliterated, we could have just had one teammate go do the repair and the rest protect them, but since nobody talks to each other, we all died lol
crude fiber
Your better off taking +infested and +unarmored then +groaners
austere pine
the unbelievers in this chat are horrendous
wanton dawn
Auric Maelstrom genuinely requires communicating teammates, we have been fightin...
Its new
dreamy vortex
Auric Maelstrom genuinely requires communicating teammates, we have been fightin...
Idk I've done plenty with no comms
wanton dawn
Ppl will figure it out
crude fiber
Hiw do you do that new mini game btw?
dreamy vortex
Haven't done the new Hab Dreyko yet though
nocturne hazel
Ive always found the concept of the mauler as an enemy funny, like with crusher putting an ogryn head to toe in armor with a hammer makes sense, but mauler is just like 'yea gimme an axe and a welding mask i got this'
wanton dawn
Haven't done the new Hab Dreyko yet though
Last event minigame is weird
terse idol
what if they are, though?
You literally already have rampage for dat
dreamy vortex
Ive always found the concept of the mauler as an enemy funny, like with crusher ...
Goat
terse idol
Smmmh
wanton dawn
And high enemy pressure
crude fiber
Hiw do you do that new mini game btw? <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
I guess till I find the one that beeps and do that one twice. Is there a way to tell which one is right without guessing?
normal spruce
Idk I've done plenty with no comms
How did you manage to clear the new heretic tree destroying objective? I imagine there was some kind of communication or understanding to have one teammate do the objective while the rest protect that teammate
grizzled pebble
I have this mod now but I'm missing something, how do you find old missions?
Go on a site called maelstrom net
idle swallow
No more scanning random crap everywhere at the tree, you do 3 new minigame things at the tree directly
One new minigame 3 times
umbral scaffold
Is that the auspex scanning one?
normal spruce
Yeah that one, you insert some kind of drill into the tree and the drill periodically gets broken which you have to repair it to continue the objective, the mini-game has you guess circles and wait to see which one turns white.
idle swallow
Yea kinda
austere pine
the vape nation build screw yall
idle swallow
Definitely nice to have crowd control/stealth for that part, or cracked teammates
austere pine
godroll
normal spruce
the vape nation build screw yall
Its over for heretics
supple stag
You'll tickle them to death with that stick
austere pine
i like how everybody questions the 1% dmg power sword but nobody questions the white recon las or the darn build
austere pine
just in case they do attack me, yknow
balmy flume
I mean, as long as you are not actively grieving during actual playâŚ
(Or joining deathless attempts with those lol)
idle swallow
I brought the vape nation loadout into aurics for the penance I don't even care
umbral scaffold
Yeah
Hoping the next new update changes some skills
Like I kinda donât like how skirmisher drops all its stacks or needs like half a second of sprinting to refresh or gain a stack
tame lodge
I brought the vape nation loadout into aurics for the penance I don't even care
I mean, it's not that troll
old quail
i assure u dropping these smokes on every poxwalker spawn is assisting the team
im doing my part
tame lodge
i like how everybody questions the 1% dmg power sword but nobody questions the w...
Got that 20% chance of throwing two smokes
Huge value
somber axle
I just had one of the most fun missions
really feeling like I'm playing my FF14 healer today
umbral scaffold
Is that the toughness healing build?
faint beacon
the vape nation build screw yall
Most meth head build possible
umbral scaffold
Iâve kinda seen you post that
somber axle
nah I'm still doing my silly Lawbringer Manstopper Scattershot build since I'm still farming the penance
umbral scaffold
What penance?
somber axle
just a few hundred kills away from Marksman's Focus 10 stack kill completion
umbral scaffold
Ooo
somber axle
I don't want to endanger my squad by just special shot spamming into hordes when specials/elites are running rampant and people are down
so I'm getting very little progress these past few matches
BUT THE GOOD NEWS
crude fiber
somber axle
I did get Reassuringly Accurate IV for the Mk II Laspistol to make the healer build that little bit better
somber axle
https://tenor.com/view/sacrifice-gif-18708488
literally only doing 10 stack special shot lawbringer manstopper memes on hordes if it is safe for me and my squad but it's almost never safe in Quickplay LMFAO
I can't meme if I'm trying to keep everyone safe
crude fiber
I did get Reassuringly Accurate IV for the Mk II Laspistol to make the healer bu...
Isn't that restore toughness on crit kill on elite enemy? Seems super niche to me
somber axle
Isn't that restore toughness on crit kill on elite enemy? Seems super niche to m...
yes but allow me to explain my new clownishness
I am still a Recon main
crude fiber
Or was it on any crit kill?
crude fiber
Ok so not TOO bad
somber axle
Oh you play ffxiv too?
Yeah I've got all combat classes maxed and I did literally every single side quest in the game
My friends think I am insane and they are correct
midnight totem
Not insane yet until you get all crafting up to 90
somber axle
Not insane yet until you get all crafting up to 90
Omnicrafter one day but today I am Darktide hunting
BUT ALSO THAT MEDIC BUILD...
midnight totem
I haven't done crafting
All I do in ffxiv is pvp
Occasional raid
Oh hey we are both in the same pvp server
somber axle
the idea is that through confirmed kill, covering fire and crit stacking through Deadshot with Reassuringly Accurate I can spam shots into crowds and constantly pump toughness regen into a team
midnight totem
Nice pistol
somber axle
does the team need a sudden quick tiny burst of toughness regen?
swap to melee to proc
with constant Voice of Command spam to keep toughness healing and healthy too
midnight totem
I like it. Support vet
Team should never go down in that, minus crusher overheads
somber axle
Focus Target with Target Down would be more team stam/toughness regen but I prefer Weapon Specialist for the massive ranged attack speed boost it gives the Mk II
so I can spam shots with it faster, force more crits faster and regen toughness to the team faster
midnight totem
Also a guaranteed crit
midnight totem
Still outdps most people
somber axle
I've learned to compulsively check healthbars during fights from MMORPGs anyway so I might as well put it to use
midnight totem
Such is healer life
midnight totem
Haha
crude fiber
Does the bonus toughness regen stacks node from marksman focus effect toughness regen weapon blessings?
somber axle
no idea for sure but Born Leader says any toughness I replenish and works even if I'm at max toughness for regen on squadmates
I've not really tested it in a match with a friend to verify
I just do a quick swap when I glance and see squad is low on toughness assuming it is giving them a little chunk back
umbral scaffold
The ammo efficiency with the las crit not using ammo talent goes hard
Is it called shocktrooper?
umbral scaffold
Yeah
somber axle
Helbore, Recon, Kantrael Infantry Lasguns, Laspistols
it's really good for all of them
umbral scaffold
Survivalist nerf and bug fix makes it way better
somber axle
I'm not even using Survivalist anymore and not feeling the sting of low ammo on my Lasguns in matches
balmy flume
Right, time for some PUG roulette.
And switching out Toughness Regen for pure Toughness where applicable
somber axle
well
umbral scaffold
Yeah, I mainly use the movement speed one
somber axle
My Recon build still uses it I guess
umbral scaffold
Whatâs the other called?
balmy flume
I'm not even using Survivalist anymore and not feeling the sting of low ammo on ...
Shocktrooper?
umbral scaffold
Fire Team?
somber axle
Shocktrooper?
Survivalist Aura. I don't use the ammo regen aura most times anymore
midnight totem
Recons can be forgiven for needing survivalist
somber axle
I do always use Shocktrooper with any lasgun build I run
balmy flume
Ah ok
somber axle
Oh hey we are both in the same pvp server
I play on Mateus LMFAO and PvP is fun but I kinda feel bad with how silly WHM is in PvP
Polymorph and WHM Ult feel silly
umbral scaffold
I kinda want to make a similar team support build with a revolver 30% toughness regen talent on elites
But the las pistol seems more available on any crit headshot
somber axle
I like doing MCH in PvP for the funny wombo combo snipe ult with explosive charges and shotgun to 100-0 most people
somber axle
Yeah they were
balmy flume
Right.
Shredders, change toughness regen to pure toughness on curiosâŚ
âŚthen it is PUG roulette time.
somber axle
I kinda want to make a similar team support build with a revolver 30% toughness ...
it's tricky because Revolver wants Hand Cannon rending blessing and Surgical crit ADS blessing so choosing which of those to lose is a hard choice
vs like
midnight totem
I play mostly on Primal, Ultros
umbral scaffold
Whatâs ur curio set up on these regen builds?
somber axle
Laspistol Mk II wants Ghost/Dum Dum/Infernus
and tbh I can more easily justify losing Ghost by being a breakdancing clown
midnight totem
But I have a Crystal, Mateus alt
somber axle
just slide dodge to avoid enemy fire
I don't need the Infernus IV burn damage on medic build
so I just Dum Dum
head empty healer brain always
midnight totem
That reminds me
somber axle
Whatâs ur curio set up on these regen builds?
one sec lemme share
midnight totem
Stripped down works with getting the dodge Reaper and gunner fire penance right?
umbral scaffold
I just use 3 stamina curios with sprint efficiency, stamina regen and ordo docket bonus, Iâd use combat ability cd if I were to swap out ordo dockets
somber axle
Whatâs ur curio set up on these regen builds?
here you go
but you don't need to engage in triple stam curio clownishness
I do this because I have the most fun feeling like my skin is paper and my bones are glass
umbral scaffold
It ainât clowny
somber axle
I like being untouchable by sheer speed
umbral scaffold
More toughness takes longer to regen
somber axle
always dodge or block or shove or just reposition and be untouchable
though also yeah this build does have crazy toughness regen
so I don't think I really need the extra toughness or HP anyway
triple stam is for Deadshot min-maxing
umbral scaffold
Yeah, I kinda feel naked without the stamina
somber axle
you can kinda hip-fire the Laspistols fine tbh
umbral scaffold
Bro gets winded after 2 seconds
somber axle
Deadshot ADS with the Laspistol is just when I'm trying to force extra crits for more squad toughness regen
enter healer stance
LMFAO
balmy flume
Laspistols are actually very fun
umbral scaffold
Kinda wish the ability talents had those mandated nodes built in for more talent picks
balmy flume
You genuinely feel like a movie action hero as you chop away with hordes, switch to Laspistol to shoot a Trapper in the head
Then continue chopping again.
umbral scaffold
Like executioners stance needing 2 talent points just to be decent is atrocious
umbral scaffold
The reset should be built in
hollow ibex
The reset should be built in
lol yeah
Should also get a reload on first activation imo
somber axle
Like executioners stance needing 2 talent points just to be decent is atrocious
I would just really appreciate it if they'd add back in Exe Stance reloading your weapon automatically when you hit the ability
it would make my Recon gun fire for literally forever when clearing specials with the 6 sec CD reduction on special kill talent
somber axle
just hit Exe Stance as it comes off CD whenever I am near low
and I can almost guaratee the devs know about this interaction and this is precisely why it was removed
LMFAO
umbral scaffold
Like I really miss the ammo reset
hollow ibex
and I can almost guaratee the devs know about this interaction and this is preci...
I mean it wouldnât even really be op imo. Or at the very least give a reload buff while itâs active
gilded wraith
also really good synergy with Shocktrooper
I'm confused, where does the healing part come in?
faint beacon
I mean it wouldnât even really be op imo. Or at the very least give a reload buf...
Itâs truly a fun feeling knowing your stance is going to vanish cause 3 seconds got absorbed by a reload
hollow ibex
Itâs truly a fun feeling knowing your stance is going to vanish cause 3 seconds ...
Its a legit issue of slower reloading guns
Much harder to sustain exec stance
somber axle
I'm confused, where does the healing part come in?
Covering Fire, Confirmed Kill, Reassuringly Accurate + Deadshot and triple stam curio, Born Leader, On Your Toes, Voice of Command + Duty of Honour spam through Tactical Awareness
umbral scaffold
Itâs truly a fun feeling knowing your stance is going to vanish cause 3 seconds ...
Iâm punching the air
somber axle
though I'm tempted to swap Confirmed Kill over to Out for Blood
crude fiber
Just spend 4 points into both reload talents 4head
somber axle
see if maybe that's better for general toughness regen when firing into targets
austere pine
in a manner of 3 seconds, all of my teammates, consisting of 2 psykers and 1 other veteran, went down
somber axle
oh also almost no one is outrunning me with how good laspistol mobility is + 9 stam curios to maintain max speed sprint other than knife users so I just outrun them to find the medkit and med stims hidden in the map
austere pine
mission is doomed but at least i got a cool armor piece
gilded wraith
Covering Fire, Confirmed Kill, Reassuringly Accurate + Deadshot and triple stam ...
Ah, gotcha. Thought there was a specific crit = heal I had overlooked.
somber axle
most times quickplay pugs are ignoring side alleys and chests off the main path anyway
save a med stim for someone if they go down (sometimes people wander beyond coherency and then suddenly die LMFAO)
austere pine
we dripped tf out now
somber axle
Ah, gotcha. Thought there was a specific crit = heal I had overlooked.
I WISH
faint beacon
The blicky
austere pine
big iron
somber axle
if Fatshark added a Crit Weakspot Kill blessing that restored 1%/2%/3%/4% HP on rank I/II/III/IV to the Vet per kill I'd love to have it as my second blessing
but HP restore would be OP
faint beacon
if Fatshark added a Crit Weakspot Kill blessing that restored 1%/2%/3%/4% HP on ...
That would be fucked for one
somber axle
and sorta mean you'd be able to ignore healing most times
faint beacon
For two that would be insane on Headhunters
austere pine
if Fatshark added a Crit Weakspot Kill blessing that restored 1%/2%/3%/4% HP on ...
restoring hp is something i don't think they want to do
somber axle
they'd have to put it on something like Laspistols
it'd be too strong on Headhunters
somber axle
restoring hp is something i don't think they want to do
I don't think so either
somber axle
HP restore blessings would trivialize the game way more
and the game is already easy enough for the average CIAG/Plasma/Power Sword Power Cycler IV/Voice of Command user
balmy flume
Hp restore if a teammate gets blown off by a barrel
Only if you donât get blown off the map
somber axle
>the average
>power cycler 4
curb your expectations right now
I understand a lot of people don't have PC4 yet it's ok
balmy flume
Ended a deathless steak
somber axle
I got it and then went "wait I hate this" and swapped back to other melee weapons
LMFAO
midnight totem
Man yesterday I lost a deathless streak once again
Teammate walked into a daemonhost
somber axle
austere pine
Ended a deathless steak
by killing death herself, eliminating the concept of death altogether? how kind
midnight totem
Then he left, and it focused me instead
somber axle
no like this thing
austere pine
brutal momentum..?
somber axle
it collects dust in my collection of weapons forever
austere pine
i see why you didn't like it
somber axle
I can swap BM4
idk what's the best blessing combo
I just don't care for Power Swords
LMFAO
austere pine
pcycler and sunder
dull atlas
brutal momentum is great imo
hollow ibex
idk what's the best blessing combo
What you have is already the best imo
midnight totem
Good. It's ugly
tame lodge
brutal momentum..?
It helps with some stuff
austere pine
emperor protect me
dreamy vortex
How did you manage to clear the new heretic tree destroying objective? I imagine...
I haven't done the new Hab Dreyko yet like I said
somber axle
What you have is already the best imo
isn't BM4 better for hitting the 1HKO Crusher charged push attack?
that might be why
dreamy vortex
emperor protect me
Goated weapons
midnight totem
Slaughter can be funny, and sunder is also a viable blessing
somber axle
just get all the melee damage boosting talents
1 tap push attack Crushers
but that's TOO EASY
that's BORING
hollow ibex
isn't BM4 better for hitting the 1HKO Crusher charged push attack?
Wonât make a huge difference but yeah it helps
faint beacon
Look Iâm still going to use VOC even if they gut it
somber axle
I like being fast and Power Sword is a very slow weapon
like running around Dark Souls fat rolling
faint beacon
Iâve always enjoyed being a support/buffing play style
dreamy vortex
My power sword has Power Cycler IV and Slaughterer IV
candid agate
they shouldnt nerf VOC they should make the other abilities just as good
midnight totem
Then run infil vet with Ms aura and ms node
dreamy vortex
What is the highest damage output combo for the power sword
faint beacon
Chorus is pretty damn strong on zealot I wonât lie
I think the real reason VOC also feels so strong is
somber axle
they shouldnt nerf VOC they should make the other abilities just as good
tbh gold toughness is very strong already and having full toughness restore, AoE stagger that can make a Burgle vomit a team mate and let you tank a poxburster or sniper and take 0 HP damage is already really powerful so there's not really a way to make the average player find Infiltrate or Executioner's Stance more attractive and I don't think the devs need to make either option more attractive tbh
tame lodge
I like being fast and Power Sword is a very slow weapon
I tried a melee vet and found it better than knives, but that's just me
somber axle
Exe Stance is for clowns like me who don't need and don't care about the extra survivability either for myself or for my team (unless I'm running medic laspistol build)
candid agate
tbh gold toughness is very strong already and having full toughness restore, AoE...
who knows, neither of us are balancers
somber axle
Infiltrate is for the rare melee Vet to get in and out of danger
midnight totem
Never
candid agate
what should i replace damage against pox walkers with
somber axle
though some melee Vets will still prefer VoC
it's just THAT good
and it's also THAT boring to me
midnight totem
I infil vet into a gunner backline
somber axle
only fun with medic playstyle
faint beacon
tbh gold toughness is very strong already and having full toughness restore, AoE...
Dead serious I think they should make the shout shorter than revive but buff range slightly smaller than it is currently, just so then itâs not a instant immediate advantage button
bitter mango
tbh gold toughness is very strong already and having full toughness restore, AoE...
lol those abilities are just dogshit
They do need to make it more attractive
faint beacon
Cause I like the idea of it being buffing right
But itâs stagger is absolutely fucked
dreamy vortex
what should i replace damage against pox walkers with
I'd probably do flak
faint beacon
And the revive shout serves 0 purpose
candid agate
And the revive shout serves 0 purpose
revive shout is for getting your teamates in fire killed
midnight totem
Shouldn't have died in fire to begin with
dreamy vortex
And the revive shout serves 0 purpose
Idk how people think this
faint beacon
Honestly itâs good for Sudden team wipes
dreamy vortex
I love the res shout
midnight totem
-taps head-
dreamy vortex
It's great for tough situations where you're surrounded
faint beacon
The Gold Shout is just so much better
That it overshadows revive
Trust me
I want to love it
candid agate
The Gold Shout is just so much better
can always take both i think
somber axle
lol those abilities are just dogshit
They do need to make it more attractive
Nah Exe Stance is fine with the right weapons and talent build. It's much more useful for weapons that benefit immensely from the Recoil control and bonus damage to hit breakpoints like Boltgun which also can hip-fire burst 2 shots into a bulwark shield to pop it open with Exe Stance vs it takes 6 full shots to the shield without Exe Stance to do (unless you have max Pinning Fire stacks and a high 75%+ Collateral Boltgun in which case you can drop that down to 4 and even 4 shots is still awful ammo econ for just opening a Bulwark shield)
if you think the abilities are bad then you just don't have a playstyle that benefits from using them
dreamy vortex
can always take both i think
Pretty sure I do cause I'm fairly certain my shout restores toughness
somber axle
you don't use weapons that would benefit from them
faint beacon
Pretty sure I do cause I'm fairly certain my shout restores toughness
You can itâs just
Not very smart
midnight totem
Okay shouty
faint beacon
Cause oneâs meant for buffing constantly
faint beacon
Other is use in bad situations
candid agate
I'm mostly a zealot player
why could i tell that from your profile picture alone
midnight totem
I kid
tame lodge
No fanatics allowed
bitter mango
Nah Exe Stance is fine with the right weapons and talent build. It's much more u...
Damn, so all you have to do is tailor your build around it, then it's decent
That sounds like a great ability
dreamy vortex
why could i tell that from your profile picture alone
Idk
somber axle
Dead serious I think they should make the shout shorter than revive but buff ran...
I'd nerf it by making Voice of Command gold toughness duration shorter. Make it so that if a Vet wants to use it to tank hits they need to time it like a dodge with a slightly longer duration. It lasts a long time right now and with Tactical Awareness you can almost have permanent uptime on it
faint beacon
I feel like itâs totally possible to make a good Gold + Revive combo shout right
candid agate
also for this what should i replace efficiency with cause it looks kinda bad
dreamy vortex
What does the dungeon Meshi PFP say about me
somber axle
but if you nerf VoC by making the bonus toughness duration only like 2 seconds
you will find a FLOOD of Vets rushing here to cry
tame lodge
also for this what should i replace efficiency with cause it looks kinda bad
Headhunter? Or whatever the name of the blessing
faint beacon
I'd nerf it by making Voice of Command gold toughness duration shorter. Make it ...
I never noticed, usually my build has it be up for 20 seconds with a downtime normal toughness of 10
supple stag
candid agate
Headhunter? Or whatever the name of the blessing
thanks
supple stag
I've been playing Infiltrate a lot recently, don't care if VoC gets nerfed
somber axle
I never noticed, usually my build has it be up for 20 seconds with a downtime no...
tactical awareness and VoC are just too good LMFAO and I find them incredibly boring because of it but a lot of players lean hard into it
candid agate
I've been playing Infiltrate a lot recently, don't care if VoC gets nerfed
hello my brother in infiltrate
faint beacon
I just had a bat shit insane idea to make Revive on par with Golden if weâre gonna take the buff it route
somber axle
the revive shout has some niche use
like if the entire squad minus 1 person dropped down off a ledge
faint beacon
Alright hear me out
faint beacon
If you get revived by it
somber axle
no one can reach them but you can yell at them to get off their ass
faint beacon
5 seconds invuln
candid agate
no one can reach them but you can yell at them to get off their ass
to be fair your team shouldnt be getting in that situation to begin with
candid agate
true
somber axle
any other time it's really easy to just do a normal revive
faint beacon
any other time it's really easy to just do a normal revive
My support Vet build thatâs just VOC toughness generation that has the Revive talent and 3 curios with revive speed lmao
1.5 second revive
Extremely quick
somber axle
My support Vet build thatâs just VOC toughness generation that has the Revive ta...
I could've used revive speed earlier tbh
candid agate
I could've used revive speed earlier tbh
what scoreboard mod is that mine doesnt work or im using it wrong
candid agate
dont know which
somber axle
what scoreboard mod is that mine doesnt work or im using it wrong
idk I just grabbed as many Scoreboard plugins as I could find on Nexus
lemme check
faint beacon
Look Iâll agree with you on this
VOC being the end all be all ability is sad
But
I really like fully maximizing in just
Pure support role with it
somber axle
ok here's my folder of all the zip files I've kept just in case so you can see what mods I'm running
faint beacon
Itâs so much fun
candid agate
thanks
dreamy vortex
I do jack shit worth damage
Wish Darktide would show stats like Vermintide does
faint beacon
Iâll have to do a run when Iâm home
I wish I had a fucking stat that showed toughness gained or something like that
somber axle
Pure support role with it
I agree and Medic build is REALLY REALLY FUN
faint beacon
Cause i usually go 0-0
somber axle
but also every Vet and their mother is running VoC if they're not chasing Infiltrate Penance tbh
faint beacon
With damage and uses on Medicae
somber axle
Executioner's Stance Vets are an endangered species when they were apex predators in launch days
leaden hollow
Hello fellow vets. :))
somber axle
henlo
faint beacon
but also every Vet and their mother is running VoC if they're not chasing Infilt...
Okay but you can at least respect my main VOC build is solely medic/Team leader built :((((
Like itâs sole purpose is
Generate everyone toughness even with VOC is down
And revive people who fuck up
I have you know I ran through a group of 12 maulers just to revive a Zealot who fucked up bad lmao
somber axle
Okay but you can at least respect my main VOC build is solely medic/Team leader ...
I respect Medics
tbh I even respect VoC Vets who are not going for a support build and just using it as a survivability tool
the only people I don't respect are people who immediately begin backpedaling and magdumping into poxwalkers if a small group sneaks up behind them
a clown is allowed to laugh at people funnier than them
faint beacon
I literally pop it the moment I see two things happening cause I worry about my team more for some reason lmao
The psyker is being bullied by everything
Ogryn just dropped toughness
Zealots usually can handle themselves but if I notice they start losing HP I rush over to proc it
Notice I donât say anything about Veteran cause itâs usually VOC
somber axle
yeah
faint beacon
But if itâs a rare Exe Stance I be their wing man
somber axle
man why is melk so rude to me now
did you change personality
Melk hates Loose Cannon but loves Professional
idk how he feels toward Cutthroat
candid agate
yeah changed from professional to cuttthroat
somber axle
that's probably what it is then
candid agate
he seems pretty neutral with cuttthroat
somber axle
I thought Melk was just a universal ass until I made my Savant Psyker Seffie and he started praising her every time she walked by
LMFAO
faint beacon
LMAO
candid agate
simp
somber axle
he simps hard for my French girl
faint beacon
I need to check if heâs nice to my Brawler Ogryn
Comically named Byeah
And looks like a biker
supple stag
French accent fem voices are amazing
somber axle
I want Seffie to look as close to Mechanicus as possible because they're probably my fav faction in 40k and like until they add anything resembling a Tech Priest I look like this
midnight totem
He tells my loose cannon vet he smells
somber axle
midnight totem
He tells my professional vet to be careful
somber axle
He tells my loose cannon vet he smells
I love how Melk makes fun of how stinky the Loose Cannon is
when Loose Cannon comments mid-mission about their outfit itching other voices will chime in with asking if they're sure it is the outfit
stinky vet bad hygiene
faint beacon
stinky vet bad hygiene
Look Iâm just saying when youâre a sadistic Veteran who enjoys killing heretics more than the others I think itâs bound to happen
somber axle
it's kinda funny with how shady Melk is blackmailing Hallowette for the prismata crystal mission that he doesn't get along better with Loose Cannon who definitely seems more into the criminal element but probably because the Loose Cannon is too obvious about it while Melk at least wants the appearance of a Professional
faint beacon
Like Iâm just saying LC can be pessimistic but some of the Horde voicelines scream sadistic
Lmao
candid agate
ive already shown my vets loadout but this is his face
somber axle
pretend to be the good boy while sneaking around committing crimes
candid agate
what a handsome lad he is
somber axle
Look Iâm just saying when youâre a sadistic Veteran who enjoys killing heretics ...
honestly yeah exactly
the Darktide squads must be covered in all manner of awful nonsense from all the things they kill
faint beacon
Weâre killing nurgle cultists
somber axle
I think Loose Cannon even has a voice line being sick about thinking some of a poxburster getting in their mouth after a kill
faint beacon
10x worse
candid agate
I think Loose Cannon even has a voice line being sick about thinking some of a p...
thats disgusting
midnight totem
I'm half surprised there isn't an outbreak on the Mourningstar
somber axle
that the Darktide squads are alive at all with all this disease is a wild thing
jaunty tinsel
Man what do I have to do to get my shop to stop selling autoguns and shotguns
candid agate
that the Darktide squads are alive at all with all this disease is a wild thing
they probably have incredible hygiene standards
jaunty tinsel
For past like 3 days it's been that
faint beacon
I fucking love that LC taunts overwhelming odds
somber axle
they probably have incredible hygiene standards
for everyone except Loose Cannon Vet maybe since Melk comments on how they're very stinky
somber axle
I fucking love that LC taunts overwhelming odds
SAME
faint beacon
COME GET IT!
somber axle
no matter how dire things get, she's ready to GO
faint beacon
I love how they always attempted to do the actual Callsigns
Give up
Say what they are
Unless itâs a bulwark
Then they actually get happy about themselves cause itâs the only one the remember lmao
supple stag
Male LC is tempting, but then I am way too used to Professional
faint beacon
Traxis⌠12? YEAH! TRAXIS-12!
serene bough
my favorite call out is sigma something something
last parcel
shoutout to Cadian-Catboy on the mourningstar
dreamy vortex
It makes me very sad that there aren't really characters like in VT but the ability to name your character is great
somber axle
Vet Chat Vet Cat is real
dreamy vortex
Best I've seen so far has been a zealot named John Faith
He was also like the group cheerleader
somber axle
I saw a Vet on the Mourningstar today called Hunk
dreamy vortex
He was on his mic cheering on the team and shit it was great
somber axle
dreamy vortex
Hope John Faith is doing well wherever he might be
last parcel
I saw a Vet on the Mourningstar today called Hunk
i was in a game with a vet named hunk
we died to 20 ragers and 5 crushers
dreamy vortex
Wasn't hunky enough clearly
last parcel
maybe i shouldnât have brought a 17% damage dueling sword
faint beacon
https://tenor.com/view/resident-evil-4-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-remake-hunk...
Hunk is so fucking extra for doing the wiggle with his fingers after snapping a neck lmao
last parcel
man enjoys his work
serene bough
faint beacon
Yeah honestly this is Darktide
serene bough
still miss meme channel
faint beacon
I like how the Tox flamer is just a green hue
serene bough
i like how the rager's nether region is blocked by the flame
faint beacon
This images are beautiful
umbral scaffold
Ainât there a scoreboard mod with the toughness healed for yourself and team?
balmy flume
So normally I donât like Deadshot butâŚ
It is really, really good with a Laspistol.
somber axle
i was in a game with a vet named hunk
Rip Hunk
somber axle
Hunk is so fucking extra for doing the wiggle with his fingers after snapping a ...
Yeah but it's very silly LOL
somber axle
Ainât there a scoreboard mod with the toughness healed for yourself and team?
I have no idea tbh
last parcel
Ainât there a scoreboard mod with the toughness healed for yourself and team?
I don't see that listed in the Enhanced Defense plugin and Ovenproof's addon so idk what that'd be
umbral scaffold
I might of imagined it when I saw a photo of someoneâs scoreboard one time
last parcel
you have 6 seconds to move after a headshot kill
sinful jacinth
6 sec isn't much time though. If you need to run to the other area.
hollow ibex
Itâs not that bad
sinful jacinth
Oh well, half way there. Last one for vet.
hollow ibex
6 sec after hs kill and 3 sec after hs hit
On a full auto weapon you can just move forward while firing
sinful jacinth
Ogryn penance is even more bullshit.
Maybe I should just go with C5?
And auto everything
hollow ibex
Prob be easiest
somber axle
I really hate that marksman penance.
Get a Lawbringer Shotgun with the Manstopper blessing (rank 2 only gives increased cleave on crit) and the Scattershot blessing (aim for rank 3 or rank 4 extra crit for more targets hit) and use standard headshots with it to get 10 stacks then start loading special shots in for the wise horizontal pattern and fire into hordes to evaporate them
It's what I have been doing
sinful jacinth
Get a Lawbringer Shotgun with the Manstopper blessing (rank 2 only gives increas...
Will try that. I just burned out on the C5...
somber axle
I would have it done already but Damnation quickplay is a very silly place today and I've had to escort a fair few teams across the finish line and hard carry one team to a win
And I must work
Lots of people are chasing penances and struggling in quickplay LOL
sinful jacinth
Lots of people are chasing penances and struggling in quickplay LOL
Yes, even in auric.. I swear the god.
umbral scaffold
Standing still for 10 stacks suck so bad.
Lmao just pick the one with 15 stacks, just play how you would normally play with movement and landing headshots
somber axle
People are hungry to get the new Moebian set at the end of the penance rewards but there are a lot of new/returning players with the update on top of previous players who might have been more comfy in Heresy pushing into difficulties they're not quite ready for just to hope for a few more penance points
umbral scaffold
Getting stacks ainât hard and it snowballs into easier headshot kills
somber axle
We're going to have to carry some matches to get the wins in
Prepare for heavy lifting
sinful jacinth
Lmao just pick the one with 15 stacks, just play how you would normally play wit...
Prbly slowness is due to me using a MK9 headhunter.
last parcel
oh that explains things
umbral scaffold
Yeah I feel that, I use vraks mk7 with surgical and 100% crit weakspot blessing
Thatâs more on the weapon
Even worse tunnel vision with weapon customization putting a scope on it
Aiming down feels really immobile on the headhunter rifles
I think Iâd have better movement efficiency with headhunter instead of surgical
But surgical is literally fast wind up
idle swallow
I'm really digging the MG la lasrifle with marksman and exe stance, it sucks against maulers/crushers but mulches everything else in one shot when you get things rolling
last parcel
I think Iâd have better movement efficiency with headhunter instead of surgical
it's probably the scope mentally weighing you down
idle swallow
And I can stretch the ammo out with shock trooper
somber axle
6 sec isn't much time though. If you need to run to the other area.
btw I run this with Lawbringer Manstopper/Scattershot Damnation grinding on the penance
umbral scaffold
it's probably the scope mentally weighing you down
Yeah, I find it easier to use iron sights
somber axle
Infiltrate and -90% threat node will let you casually stand next to a team mate and load special shots to kill hordes
last parcel
Yeah, I find it easier to use iron sights
just throw on a 1x reflex sight from the lasguns
umbral scaffold
Yeah
somber axle
you can swap camo node off of Marksman's Focus if you prefer the 15 stack instead but I find the stacking MF effect while standing still comfy
umbral scaffold
I think Iâll just stick with surgical and a reflex sight
somber axle
and makes it easier to keep consistent 10 stacks in hectic situations if you can just find a moment to sit and breathe
umbral scaffold
I love the 15 stack ngl
75% toughness replenishment, 15% reload speed, and 112% ranged finesse goes hard
agile forge
Trying to go 15 stack showed me how inconsistent headshotting with CIAG actually is
woeful ginkgo
plasma is easy to headshot with consistently
umbral scaffold
Itâs actually not that bad
The shit mobs die in one hit instead of two
You can move a line across a horde and pop every head
hollow ibex
Trying to go 15 stack showed me how inconsistent headshotting with CIAG actually...
Wait why đ¤
woeful ginkgo
sorry, don't know why i said that
umbral scaffold
Kinda wish the CIAG didnât eat through stamina with deadshot
tame lodge
Wait why đ¤
Why is the Iron sight so damn high? It also looks like a silly face
somber axle
Kinda wish the CIAG didnât eat through stamina with deadshot
You can make the stamina last a bit longer with Focus Target + Target Down and ping specials/elites for a chunk of stamina and toughness back on kill
I do that with my Recon build
umbral scaffold
I was using weapon specialist with invigorated (20% stam) and conditioning (25% reduced stamina cost)
somber axle
If you tag a target and kill it while you have max stacks you'll probably regen most or all of the Stam you spent putting it down
Weapon Specialist is ok but requires weapon swapping to trigger
Focus Target lets you just ping and shoot
umbral scaffold
Ainât that bad with Columbus and knife
Quick draw time on them both makes it not that bad
And I like more crackhead inputs to make to feel alive
somber axle
My medic build uses the ranged attack speed bonus with the Mk II Laspistol for funny speeds shooting so I understand
Could you imagine a Mk IV Infantry Lasgun firing with Weapon Specialist? Autoclicker maybe goes from important to mandatory
umbral scaffold
Kinda wish skirmisher was better to warrant its use
somber axle
LOL
I kinda want to try the IV with Weapon Specialist now
Just a tiny test of what it's like speedrunning carpal tunnel
umbral scaffold
I wanna see agile engagement and skirmisher go wild with 50% damage increase
last parcel
I kinda want to try the IV with Weapon Specialist now
have you done recon 6 with wepaon specialist and celerity stim
umbral scaffold
Kinda wish there was a talent to enable hip fire shooting with sprinting
somber axle
have you done recon 6 with wepaon specialist and celerity stim
No but that sounds really funny and now I want to
umbral scaffold
Sucks run and gun is a mid blessing tax just to sprint and shoot
somber axle
Kinda wish there was a talent to enable hip fire shooting with sprinting
Some weapons have a blessing to do it
Run n Gun
Some Psyker staves and the Revolvers have it afaik
tame lodge
I kinda want to try the IV with Weapon Specialist now
If you're lucky you get the bug where you shoot one extra shot regardless of the RPM
R&G apparently has more bonuses than shoot while running
umbral scaffold
Some Psyker staves and the Revolvers have it afaik
Just found out it has -30% spread and 10% close range damage
Unlisted
balmy flume
2 PUG auric maelstrom without deaths.
Waiting for dinner so will practice with a non-Auric run now lol.
But also I donât dare push todayâs luck any more XD
tame lodge
I noticed the reduced spread on the Kickback
bitter turtle
Just a tiny test of what it's like speedrunning carpal tunnel
Try wep specialist laspistol
That's actually speedrun carpal
The sad part is it's actually a good build too
hollow ibex
lol I love that build
umbral scaffold
Man, I kinda wish shotguns had their special loading affected by reload speed
tame lodge
Volley adept Agripina shotgun, my slugger
grim widget
is the kantrael mk ix any good or are the other shotguns better performing?
ocean idol
Remind me, what are good melee options for wave clear
bitter turtle
Man, I kinda wish shotguns had their special loading affected by reload speed
Um
They are?
Lol
bitter turtle
Remind me, what are good melee options for wave clear
Rashad
And it's been that way for a while now
umbral scaffold
Damnn
somber axle
Try wep specialist laspistol
I have been. Is the Mk II faster firing than the IV?
umbral scaffold
Iâm a moron
bitter turtle
What about XIII chiansword
It's good for mincing poxwalkers but meh against bruisers
ocean idol
i have this
bitter turtle
Antax is thr bad combat axe I'm afraid
bitter turtle
You might be able to make it work though
The key is you need to be able to 1shot bruisers in the head
last parcel
I have been. Is the Mk II faster firing than the IV?
checked the guide and it seems the Laspistol II has 266 rpm vs the MG IV's 300 rpm
bitter turtle
Achlys and rashad can do it with the extra finesse statline
Antax replaces it with cleave
Which is not a good exchange with how BM works
grim widget
something like this
bitter turtle
Being able to kill 4 bruisers every swing is hard to beat
supple stag
Unarmoured > unyielding I feel
bitter turtle
Unarmored is better but it's locked so it's not like he can change it
supple stag
Saying for others
bitter turtle
If anything I might consider dropping flak for unarmored
The flak BP is easier to hit for dreg bruisers
supple stag
Dregs aren't real
leaden hollow
Dregs smell bad
supple stag
Don't do dregs guys
bitter turtle
Is that why dreg bombers fart everywhere
supple stag
I mean drugs, sorry
leaden hollow
Is that why dreg bombers fart everywhere
Diarrhea blast
supple stag
He's lost
bitter turtle
Diarrhea blast
Is that like the baja blast at taco bell
tame lodge
Why would I dreg when scabs are better looking
leaden hollow
I guess so lol
somber axle
checked the guide and it seems the Laspistol II has 266 rpm vs the MG IV's 300 r...
I always felt like the IV was the silliest rate of fire for a non automatic weapon so this makes sense but the difference between it and the Mk II isn't as much as I thought. I kinda want to try it now
supple stag
Why would I dreg when scabs are better looking
Scab trapper lover uncovered
somber axle
Maybe after work
supple stag
Execute him
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Targets marked
tame lodge
Scab trapper lover uncovered
Screw the trapper, Shooter's where is at
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Screw the trapper, Shooter's where is at
don't mind if i do
tame lodge
Generic soldier #475326
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tame lodge
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bro's into that tentacle shit
supple stag
Sisters of Battle perhaps
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pox gas
supple stag
I main Recon that's not possible
At least you know the taste of shit
leaden hollow
Poo poo caca
untold mulch
I always felt like the IV was the silliest rate of fire for a non automatic weap...
I still say IV feels like it should have been burst fire
somber axle
No that's the taste of vomit. Specifically laser vomit. The taste of shit is the Shredder Autopistol
leaden hollow
I donât think Iâve ever used that pistol
supple stag
I don't know what do you expect from someone having Ashley on pfp
But then again, we are all part of 40k community
umbral scaffold
Iâve seen a mod where it changes the psykers self-overheat sfx with the aneurism meme
I want a mod that changes the pox bombs sfx with the fart with reverb
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leaden hollow
How many cats does your veteran own
supple stag
My Veteran has no pets
leaden hollow
Understandable
untold mulch
The fall of the Crusher was just chefkiss
My veteran only counts how many decent roll Recons he has
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untold mulch
sadly, they are all gathering dust because my LC is smart enough to not carry a weapon that shoots wet noodles at the enemy
supple stag
My Veteran doesn't trust a gun that looks like a laser famas
And french can't make guns
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makes gun with 3 round burst
magazine carries an amount of rounds that is not divisible by 3
supple stag
French's history of weaponsmith is kind of funny
leaden hollow
I want to fight Garfield
supple stag
When you compare what their enemies carried
muted knot
a P90 lasgun
So a remodeled recon ?
untold mulch
Yeah would be kinda that
untold mulch
I like the top loading mag
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rush b do not stop my friends
untold mulch
sadly IRL, is very limited in use because having a bigger bullet would be an uncomfortably unwieldy gun
and 5.7 does its best
now any day they will fix recon
and will nerf it 3 weeks later
untold mulch
So a remodeled recon ?
Honestly, just me or there is awfully little fan variations of lasguns?
untold mulch
the cat?
leaden hollow
Yeah.
leaden hollow
I WILL
untold mulch
Chaos runs in fear
leaden hollow
Emperor protect me
untold mulch
inb4 Emperor is Jon, and that's why he is not worried, he has dealt with the creature often enough
leaden hollow
junior needle
Iâve seen a mod where it changes the psykers self-overheat sfx with the aneurism...
I need the name of this immediately
junior needle
now any day they will fix recon
That would require them to knowingly buff it in the first place
untold mulch
That would require them to knowingly buff it in the first place
Hey hey
They did
Once
junior needle
20% damage
untold mulch
didn't fix jackshit
junior needle
On guns that did abysmally low damage to begin with
Did nothing to address the power disparity in the line itself either
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I need the name of this immediately
it's only on the modder's discord
#1048318548180738118 message
somber axle
Sorry, I don't touch shit
I had to depart briefly for work related things but yes I agree
BEHOLD
untold mulch
Did nothing to address the power disparity in the line itself either
Yeah pretty much
somber axle
Clown's Choice Awards yearly winner
untold mulch
They act like doing minor changes to underperforming shit is completely unviable
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is the tier list site missing the new laspistol and revolver
somber axle
Yes
junior needle
I'd rate the mk2 recon in trash tier, at least autopistol can do respectable damage to some types
somber axle
The tier list maker was missing both the Mk X Laspistol and the Agripina Revolver
untold mulch
I'd rate the mk2 recon in trash tier, at least autopistol can do respectable dam...
is like picking the worst of VId and VIIa and I find it hilarious
somber axle
I'd rate the mk2 recon in trash tier, at least autopistol can do respectable dam...
It's a recon so with funny juice it can also shoot free shots for at least passable ammo economy in a clown's hands even if the damage isn't where I'd like
Shredder is boring and weak
Mk II is at least funny
junior needle
It's a recon so with funny juice it can also shoot free shots for at least passa...
It's a lasgun you mean
All lasguns can do that
somber axle
Though also I would say it is very fair for others to rate the Mk II lower, I just personally do not
untold mulch
II to me is in an awkawrd middle spot that it doesn't fire fast enough, nor does it fast slow and hard hitting enough
like VId feels nice to do the stream
somber axle
All lasguns can do that
Yeah I love lasguns
untold mulch
VIIa feels nice to do the hard hits
somber axle
I love every single lasgun
untold mulch
II is just pew pwe pew pew
somber axle
I love them all even if some of them are weaker than others
I do not like autoguns
Headhunters are fun though
untold mulch
Autoguns are terribly boring
to me*
Always have to state opinion before someone jumps my neck
somber axle
You can find a million games that have gun shoot boolet
faint beacon
Headhunters are fun though
The gun pointed at the back of your head slightly lowered at that statement
untold mulch
You can find a million games that have gun shoot boolet
exactly