veteran-class

[young pond]

yeah but push attack and dodges dont drain enough stamina to be a problem

[molten hound]

you can just take stam regen

you should be using stam regen anyway

[young pond]

just push, swing like 5 times and by the time enemies recover you'll have stamina back

^

stam regen my beloved

disregard wounds take stamina trinkets

yknow ive never figured out the trinket meta......................

two toughness and a stamina seems solid

[molten hound]

i take 2 toughness 1 health but put stam regen on 2 of them

[young pond]

ouhhhh health good

[wide anvil]

So long as we're not teaching newbies to just W + M1 on melee

Too many idiots not knowing how to hold their own

[molten hound]

stacking toughness on zealot is good because you get half of it back on chastise

[young pond]

yeah my bad, push attack is absolutely vital

[molten hound]

the push attack is very important on crusher

it has a high finesse multiplier

well are we still running survivalist

idk how else to build if im using shredder nade

[regal aurora]

onto powersword 106 with no power cycler IV

[molten hound]

lol

wow agile engagement looks pretty good

i never even knew this talent existed

[tame lodge]

It works with bayonets

[junior needle]

Not on a 13g unless you want to get cucked out of proccing both of your blessings by bruisers

There's a reason why wrath is recommended for light spam

[hearty panther]

the more i played the more ive concluded that savage sweep is something of a trap

it's nice to cleave through more of a mob, and i get that, cause i use wrath

but it is precisely when you CAN'T cleave through even 3 targets, that you want more cleave

so savage sweep is really this funny blessing that only helps you when you are already killing it

that wrath (and other on-hits) now have a persisting effect instead of being strictly chained attacks really solidified this

cause you used to lose your stacks the moment you stopped attacking, period

now you can block, stop attacking, switch to your gun, shoot your gun, reload, whatever, and keep the stacks going inbetween those actions

it's only if you swing and hit nothing that they disappear (or you run the clock on the buff ofc)

[dusk jacinth]

is this fine for a plasma

[radiant chasm]

It’s still an S tier aura

You’ll just have to interact with ammo pickups

Unless you are playing shocktrooper (im not including recon)

[somber axle]

very true

for poxwalkers it'll be fine but when bruisers show up it'll feel like the chainsword isn't hitting the crowd well with sweeping strikes

[balmy flume]

6 more no downing Malice to go now…

[junior needle]

It's likely about 1/10 to 1/20 as good as it used to be, but ironically the others are still so questionably useful it's still worth taking

[dusk jacinth]

bro why the fuck is he doing that face 😭

[junior needle]

Constipated

[dusk jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[radiant chasm]

The others are fine, movement speed is on par with other classes, and damage is one of the better ones in the game

Even cut down 1/20 at your estimate it is still amazing and game warping

[split sapphire]

Thoughts on Chainaxe, how good is it compared to a chainsword?

[radiant chasm]

It’s not better than chainsword but that just cause chainsword is busted

[junior needle]

The damage is ultimately useless unless you were just shy of a breakpoint

You shouldn't be building breakpoints around it either unless you're the vet in question either

[split sapphire]

But i had thought previously people had said chainaxe was better. Did i miss hear that, or have i been lied too?

Might have missheard

[junior needle]

Don't think chainaxe has ever been considered better overall

It's better at single target

Especially carapace

[keen wharf]

Gotta hand it to these new Penance's for the classes, has me dying more times then id like to trying to get multiple of them done at once.

[split sapphire]

That's what i tjought, shreds em' but struggles with groups

[radiant chasm]

Lied to or coping

It is better on carapace

[junior needle]

Yeah it's mid on chaffe clear

[radiant chasm]

But chain axe is a great weapon

[split sapphire]

Guess i'd go with both but yea

[junior needle]

Which is what most people were gearing their melee for

[radiant chasm]

Mk4 has good horde clear, it’s just chainsword has some of the best

[junior needle]

I wouldn't rate it "good" personally, you need to stack power blessings

[thick hedge]

whats so bad about stacking power blessings

[radiant chasm]

And on chsword you need rampage +cleave blessing

[thick hedge]

chain axe has decent horde and very high single target

very flexible weapon

[radiant chasm]

No it has some of the best horde clear in the game

Fast as hell ttk on hordes

[thick hedge]

i dont like its attack angle and range tho

[radiant chasm]

On all the variants?

[junior needle]

Limits your real blessings choices if you have mandatory blessings you need simply for the weapon to not feel like dog

[thick hedge]

mk 4

[thick hedge]

that goes for half the weapons in the game

[junior needle]

I'm aware, fatshark has a bad system

[radiant chasm]

Anyways chaxe mk12 is my recommendation for vets, it is easier, more intuitive

[junior needle]

Dunno who told you that but nothing I've seen supports it

[thick hedge]

just try it your self, it can even kill mix hordes which cant be said about most melee weapons

[radiant chasm]

Mk4 has a higher ceiling and wonky playstyle. Light spam strictly is for single targets you can’t/don’t need to stagger m, rev’d heavies come at an odd angle, and your horde clear is heavy spam with push attacks as needed

[muted knot]

They really buffed MF huh

[junior needle]

By "mixed" do you mean carapace?

[radiant chasm]

On zealot, mk4 is great because we can take punishment talent and stagger through rager and mauler packs without ever having to be in the vulnerability state of shredding, as well as we just have more attack speed boosts

[faint beacon]

God's strongest boltgun drop

[thick hedge]

no i mean having an odd mauler or scab rager inside

[radiant chasm]

Zealot chat testing lmaoo

[thick hedge]

most weapons cant cleave through those and get stuck

[faint beacon]

32% Damage truly the best thing ever

[junior needle]

Is that from the chart that testing horde clear with lacerate or something on a mk6

[muted knot]

How much does it actually matter for boltguns ?

[radiant chasm]

@short vapor do you have the chainsword horde clear vid on you

[faint beacon]

Honestly it probably matters a decent chunk if im big game hunting but with like Human Specials

[muted knot]

Chainsword clears hordes real well

[short vapor]

which one

[faint beacon]

probably little to none

[junior needle]

Anything can be good if you stack a ton of juice from the tree

[thick hedge]

a lot. bolt gun is a high damage weapon. damage stat effects the damage a lot

[radiant chasm]

Any one will work, just looking to show off it’s horde clear

[thick hedge]

especially if you are trying s snipe build with bolt gun

[unreal bone]

Can I salvage this?

Or nah

[muted knot]

Well it is a recon

[unreal bone]

Okay other than the fact it's a recon

[thick hedge]

lot of none headshot breakpoint cannot be reached without high damage

[unreal bone]

I like recons okay I wish they'd stop getting fucked 😭

[forest scaffold]

I'd argue this is the ideal base

[junior needle]

You'll get a 3/4 but they aren't really worth using atm

[forest scaffold]

change unyielding to flak

change deathspitter to uh

fuck

the fire blessing

[junior needle]

dumdum

[short vapor]

Only one I have on-hand is this one, a bit old though and for Zealot.

[junior needle]

Absolutely not on a 7a

[forest scaffold]

Yeah or dumdum I guess

[radiant chasm]

Damage matters on all weapons besides a few exceptions like flamer and purge staff whose damage doesn’t come from the direct hit. It is the base damage that scales off all your bonuses. Bolter especially is high damage so you want as close to 80 as you can get

[unreal bone]

Okay I'll change unyielding to flak and dumdum it

[forest scaffold]

well

dumdum is limited to what, 8 meters?

Realistically speaking

[junior needle]

No, it works like anoint in blood

[forest scaffold]

you're going to get more damage out of the fire blessing

[junior needle]

Close ranged damage has been normalized to work like anoint in blood now

and dumdum has worked like that for a long time

[tall torrent]

No

[muted knot]

Wasn't dumdum bugged for a while now ?

[radiant chasm]

Thanks kindred 🫡

Yea chsword horde clear is insane

How many bodies is that exactly

[tall torrent]

50

[unreal bone]

I have no dumdum for my recon

so I guess it'll be infernus for now

[junior needle]

It appears to be working as intended given that other sources of "close range damage" were changed to work exactly like it, but the tooltip is clearly misleading

[forest scaffold]

still, you're looking at an upper limit of 15 meters for maximum damage

[woeful ginkgo]

how is that sword setup?

[tall torrent]

8m for max effect
30m max range

[forest scaffold]

danke

[short vapor]

blessings that just increase close damage, like dumdum, yes. However if it requires a close kill you need to be in range.

[junior needle]

25m

[tall torrent]

30m

[junior needle]

Close range kill is 7-8m yes

[junior needle]

Oh it's 30 now?

[tall torrent]

It’s 8m max effect then linear falloff to 30m

[short vapor]

SS + Rampage w/ Flak + Maniac or Unyielding, don't quite recall. The talents are just minimal melee setup, used like 20-24 points.

[junior needle]

Was anoint in blood changed to do that or is that unique to "close range damage"

[tall torrent]

All “distance based ranged dmg” is cutoff at 8m & 30m now

Longshot is 8m start, 30m end

Linear scale 1~20%

[junior needle]

neat

[tall torrent]

Unless they changed that this update

I checked with kuli before

[woeful ginkgo]

thank you, i'm going to try that when i can play the game again

[tall torrent]

Dum dum also boosts blitz & DOT dmg

[forest scaffold]

i'm sure that interaction will be patched

[eventually]

[junior needle]

They patched other talents to work like that

[tall torrent]

Won’t because that’s how most “close dmg” work

[forest scaffold]

why must fatshark be like this

[junior needle]

Something in the water

[tall torrent]

It’s not as broken as u think

[forest scaffold]

so I can't kill 12 million crushers with pinning fire buffed grenades

but I can buff grenades with dum dum?

Make it make sense fatshark

💢

[tall torrent]

Pinning fire buffs grenades as well

It’s +power, not +ranged power

[midnight totem]

Can't make sense

[forest scaffold]

I dunno

[midnight totem]

Because, dum dum

[forest scaffold]

can't remember the interaction

[midnight totem]

Get it?!

[forest scaffold]

but crab killed like 100,000,000 hp in the meat grinder

[midnight totem]

HA

[forest scaffold]

with bleed and pinning fire

[tall torrent]

This is why I go the extra mile and specify exactly what blessings do what

[midnight totem]

... sorry I'm bored

[forest scaffold]

and that interaction was nixed in the next big patch

[tall torrent]

Whatever that was prob got patched when they changed DOT vs carapace & unyielding

[forest scaffold]

I'm sure you can find the video around here somewhere

[cunning sandal]

Much better than my other one.

Got the 4th dodge, and a better 2nd Blessing

Only took 7 million dockets

[forest scaffold]

another based headtaker+slaughterer enjoyer on chainaxe

[cunning sandal]

I was trying for Headtaker + Thrust, but

it'll do

[vale ledge]

Honest opinion on the knife I have (for a bleed build I have for Veteran)

[balmy flume]

5 more malice no downing to go now…

[molten hound]

lacerate sucks

[balmy flume]

Malice is not hard at all, but still

[cunning sandal]

Lacerate is a trap

[tall torrent]

Lacerate is bad, unfortunately

[molten hound]

uncanny strike isnt critical on knife but it makes it super easy to use and anti everything

[cunning sandal]

Uncanny is also kinda BiS on every knife

[vale ledge]

Ehhh

Cant win em all I suppose

Aside from the Lacerate though everything else though?

[tall torrent]

Lacerate is the big problem

Also not having uncanny means way worse anti-armor & boss dmg

Knife is super reliant on blessings

[vale ledge]

Welp. . .guess back to the scrawling board for me knofe

[agile forge]

It has a bunch of great blessing options for slot 2

But slot 1 is Uncanny

[vale ledge]

R i p

[agile forge]

And lacerate bad.

[atomic zephyr]

joins first auric match since the update
zealot immediately flames the other vet because he's not running survivalist
goes stealth and runs away
everyone else dies

[junior needle]

Vet just isn't as efficient for bleed setups compared to zealot

You'd want flesh tearer/uncanny, lacerate is just uh

bad

[vale ledge]

Alright alright I got the message

After like

The 5th person

Lacerate is bad

[somber axle]

psst

[vale ledge]

Also uhhhh power sword-

[junior needle]

Sometimes the slabs need reinforcement

[vale ledge]

What perks-

[agile forge]

It bears repeating lmao

[somber axle]

I am a clown and one of my fav knives has lacerate

but don't do what I do

[agile forge]

Uncanny makes the bleed stronger anyway

[somber axle]

I use this because my Vet sometimes cackles during melee when things are bleeding around her

[tall torrent]

ideally u want to be able to do this on knife

[somber axle]

it's purely for fun and you'll get better wave clear and damage using uncanny instead

you can 3 tap crusher heads with knife

as long as you've got +Carapace and Uncanny and a good stat roll and Desperado and idk what else

but knife 3 tapping Crusher heads is pretty funny and worth imo

[vale ledge]

Also while on the topic of melee

What perks are perfect for powerswords

NOt blessings

Perks

[tall torrent]

Carapace/maniac/unyielding

Flak/elite is ok for mk3

But mk6 is the better one rn

[somber axle]

yeah if you build the Mk VI power sword right you can do this

literally one tap charge push attack crusher heads off

boop their nose

[tall torrent]

This is a very impractical breakpoint because 8 stack focus target is pretty hard to maintain

[somber axle]

oh yes I just share because it's funny and Mr. Craime shared this a long time ago when we were talking about how Power Sword VI needs charge + push attack into 2 light swings to kill Crusher

[forest scaffold]

god is fatshark ever gonna nerf the christopher colombus

[somber axle]

it CAN kill in 1 strike though if you wanna be extra funny

[forest scaffold]

like yeah, even in a vacuum recon lasguns aren't all that great

but then you take out the Columnus IAG and its just like "Oh"

(Why is this thing still in the game in this form )

[somber axle]

ok I'm gonna do it again

CIAG is top tier and yes it'll literally do everything better than a Recon as far as damage because of how crazy the finesse values are and the damage etc. and of course you can run literally a grey CIAG and an empty talent tree and still do Auric Damnation or Auric Maelstrom and be fine but CIAG is literally THE best gun in the game right now and it's leagues beyond every other gun

But there's something CIAG can't do that only Recon can

Ammo efficiency

no one will believe me

so I have to share these goofy things all over again

Vet on the far right was Plasma, other Vet was CIAG

CIAG vet did 9k more damage but I got more kills

check ammo tins/packs/crates taken

Recon VId with my funny build is objectively more ammo efficient than the CIAG

[misty vigil]

mark 3 dagger is better than mark 6 right?

[somber axle]

BUT THE DISCLAIMER HERE

I'm doing this LMFAO

[tall torrent]

This is the definition of insanity

[somber axle]

crit stacking with triple stam curios and Deadshot with Focus Target and Target Down to keep stam regen while also using Duck and Dive as a frontliner to dodge incoming fire and regen extra stam through it too

[somber axle]

I'm a clown it's what I do

Anyway yeah so like with all this nonsense you might wonder if the damage is worth it

the answer is yes on most targets, no on some

what targets is it not worth shooting at? literally just bosses

[misty vigil]

mark 3 dagger is the superior dagger because of the strikedown heavy right?>

[tall torrent]

It’s really just preference based for the most part

[somber axle]

you can kill every single special/elite with Recon VId very fast and if you're not a clown like me running +Carapace and +Ranged Weakspot on your Recon, you also get really good Mutie TTK too

but I run +Carapace on a Recon VId to do this

[misty vigil]

see i'm thinking ease of access to a stealth heavy attack and not having to prep the heavy strikedown to backstab kill

[tall torrent]

I like mk6 more because h1 and h2 are way easier for me to hit weak spots with, also higher cleave on those 2 attacks spreads flesh tearer to more enemies

[tropic imp]

Both are strikedown heavies, biggest change is push attack

[somber axle]

no this isn't just Psykanium fluff, yes I do this in matches and watch my ammo counter

crit strings mean she uses on average 10-13 ammo per Crusher kill

[tall torrent]

For veteran, I don’t think that’s as useful

For zealot, absolutely

[misty vigil]

ohhhhh diff push attack?

[somber axle]

and I melt them

[misty vigil]

:)

[tall torrent]

Mk6 has H1 and H2 being cleave

[forest scaffold]

CIAG is everything the shredder autopistol wished it was

[somber axle]

run CIAG if you want because it is objectively better than literally every other gun in the game to the point even Zealots and Psykers run it

[forest scaffold]

and the whacky thing is, like the SAP, you don't need to ads at all with the CIAG

[hollow turtle]

So. How fix? It's been a while.

[forest scaffold]

(also like the SAP)

[hollow turtle]

Guessing OS to HH and Unyielding to maniac?

[somber axle]

but like CIAG has worse ammo econ than Recon, and since Recon gets free shots through Shock Trooper it means you can fire for what feels like 2 minutes straight cutting down elites/specials without needing to reload

and saving a lot of ammo

[tropic imp]

Fr? My bad then, they behave basically the same for me

[somber axle]

and still managing very good shooter wave clear, elite wave clear, special kills, etc.

the only thing Recon VId is genuinely awful at with no ability to redeem is boss damage and given it can kinda do literally anything and everything for me I think that's a fine tradeoff tbh

[tall torrent]

Yea Mk6 has no easy access to strikedown heavy, and Mk3 is all strikedown on heavy

That’s their main difference

Push atk dmg is the same between the two (less than strikedown heavy)

[somber axle]

Surv Aura nerf means some people are adjusting to new ammo econ and some weapons that were extra overpowered by how they just did not care about ammo while doing top tier TTK and damage are now more balanced by having to look more at their ammo efficiency

Plasma is now more balanced around ammo econ so Vets who like to be spammy at anything and everything that moves are sniffing shadows for tins

CIAG still has pretty solid ammo econ though but it's less than Recons**, Helbores, Kantraels and the Laspistols. Really any Lasgun with a crit stacking build and Shock Trooper will outdo most other guns on ammo econ

[tall torrent]

Not that bad tbh

[somber axle]

**NOTE Recon is only better in the right hands and the average player is not able to run a Recon to my level of clownery in matches

do what I do at your own risk because you will suffer unless you are a clown like me

[somber axle]

For good players it's not a big deal but the average player is very ammo thirsty in quickplay lobbies and I've definitely felt it when Vets are sprinting across the map when I ping a tin or pack for them

[candid agate]

fellas is on overwartch worth it for infiltration or should i use a different modifier

[tall torrent]

This is why I just type “learn melee pls”

[somber axle]

If you're new to using Infiltrate then grab Overwatch for the extra charge because it'll save you while you're learning where, when and how to use it effectively. If you stealth into a group to suppress for the penance, you'll have a second charge most times to stealth back out to safety if you jump into a fight with too much heat to handle

[tall torrent]

It’s generally good if u have the spare point for it

Hunter’s resolve (50% TDR for 10s) is also very strong

[somber axle]

If you're experienced with Infiltrate then you probably don't need Overwatch tbh

[candid agate]

how should i use it properly then

[somber axle]

just don't grab more than 2 nodes buffing Infiltrate because anything more than 2 at most is too talent point expensive to justify

[candid agate]

cause i am pretty new to it and dont wanna use a crutch

[somber axle]

get either Overwatch + 50% Toughness Damage Reduction on Stealth break for 10 sec node or the -90% threat reduction for 10 sec node

[tall torrent]

It helps u reposition and dive enemy backline

The “not getting downed when diving enemy backline” part is smth u want to work on

[somber axle]

I prefer -90% threat tbh

[candid agate]

got it

[somber axle]

lets me get away with some very funny plays as long as I'm near my team

[candid agate]

for me the threat is kinda inconsistent

even if i am with my team sometimes they still target me

[somber axle]

You're right but we have a lot of returning players who are rusty + new players who are jumping in and still learning and they're hungry for Damnation/Aurics

it'll take them time to get up to speed

until then Quickplay will have ammo hungry Vets

but if you have a dedicated friend group you play Darktide with you probably will never notice them

[candid agate]

seems like the aura is in a lot more balanced position compared to the other 2

[somber axle]

it depends on how close the team is tbh and if they're just in the general area and not right next to you, you'll probably still get aggro

I can stand next to an Ogryn, Zealot or Psyker (I try not to do this to Psykers tbh) and they'll catch all the heat letting you freely melee or ranged for the 10 sec

or run objectives like remotes or scanners

or drop grenades without stray poxwalkers/bruisers catching your back

also remember that Infiltrate does not break stealth on underhand lobbing grenades, only overhand

[candid agate]

i like using it while near a horde so i can wail on them in peace

[somber axle]

exception being that Kraks will break stealth I THINK according to what I've seen other users say here

[candid agate]

i dont think they do

[somber axle]

I vaguely remember one person saying that the toss does not break stealth but the explosion will and I never verified tbh

[candid agate]

i dont see why it would

maybe it was a glitch?

[forest scaffold]

no need to derust when you look like this

ogryn is blatantly overpowered. please never nerf him fatshark

[prisma herald]

wasn't trained for this

[cunning sandal]

What'd ya use to seperate ya big guy from the screenshot btw?

[dusk jacinth]

removebg

[somber axle]

Oh I forgor to respond to this ok so

1. Get Out of Jail Free Card: Your toughness just broke and a Reaper is sizing you up for lunch. A Crusher is coming your way and you backed yourself into a corner. You're facing down a Chaos Spawn and you're not confident dodging/meleeing it in a dance + want to shove aggro onto someone else. Hit Infiltrate and earn instant safety. If you're ever in trouble because you're in a bad position or facing down a threat you can't handle right this instant Infiltrate will get you out and buy you time to find a better area to engage while restoring your toughness to full. Remember it gives you a big movement speed buff.

2. Your Team's Get Out of Jail Free Card: Rat Zealot ran across the map and got hit with a net. They need saving but everyone is busy in a fight and there's no way any normal person can realistically reach them through the elites/specials/horde the team is engaged in. If you're feeling spicy you can be their hero. Hit stealth, run to them, underhand lob a shredder frag grenade on approach and begin revive. Grenade will AoE stagger + damage everything around them and let you get off the free revive. Drop 2 shredder frag grenades if you want to evaporate whatever finished the Zealot while they were in the net.

[candid agate]

alright so basically you become a coward or medic

[somber axle]

oh wait I forgor one thing

[forest scaffold]

Gimp 2.0 - Patch 2.10.6 - lasso tool and patience

[cunning sandal]

Ahhh

[somber axle]

3. Hab Dreyko Tree Objective Forcing: Hordes/specials are non-stop. Rager trains are unending. Tox Bombers keep backing the team into a corner. You've been fighting at this tree for what feels like 10 minutes straight and you can't move the progress bar. Hit Infiltrate and run to the tree yourself and do the objective before anything notices.

[forest scaffold]

I did this one too

cause its fuckin funny

[somber axle]

this isn't just for Hab Dreyko tbh

you can do it with any objective

[somber axle]

sure if you wanna phrase stealth like that yeah

you can also stealth into enemies if you're running melee Vet to get the drop on Gunners

[candid agate]

i know its not cowardly

just funny putting it like that

[somber axle]

but WoW Rogue stealth gameplay isn't what the average Vet is yearning for tbh

[candid agate]

i am running a melee vet

catachan combat knife mk 3 my beloved

[somber axle]

love the Mk 3 Knife

😌

[candid agate]

yeah

one shots almost all specials to the head

[somber axle]

Ogryn was nerfed

hold on lemme find the thing

[candid agate]

and mine can one shot a mutant with a crit headshot

[forest scaffold]

Feel No Pain was changed

[arctic rampart]

is that voc or infiltrate

[forest scaffold]

For Auric and below, its not relevant

[somber axle]

pre-update Ogryn was able to get a combined 71.5% toughness damage reduction just existing

[forest scaffold]

I only felt it in maelstrom

[candid agate]

@arctic rampart infiltrate

[somber axle]

while also still having crazy toughness regen with the heavy swings and some blessings that just gave you chunks of toughness back

you can still do this as Ogryn but the toughness damage reduction isn't as good as before

[arctic rampart]

heavy attack power sword without F one shots too tho

[somber axle]

it's still REALLY good and idk what the new % numbers are for Ogryn max TDR

[arctic rampart]

or the best is chain sword as they going by imo

bisect their heretic face off

[hollow turtle]

Opinion on what perk to change?

[candid agate]

@arctic rampart yeah but you wont feel as badass as with a simple knife

[hollow turtle]

Need second opinion

[candid agate]

because who needs all these futuristic weapons when small sharp stick does the job

[somber axle]

for a sec there I thought there was a secret hard mode mod that made a hidden game mode above Auric difficulty until you mentioned Maelstrom LOL

[hollow turtle]

Love you, Puri.

[arctic rampart]

I just cant man. why would you ever use a conventional knife when you can use a 40k plasma or chain ?? if it was a power or chain knife maybe

[forest scaffold]

Confident Strike - +8% Toughness on Chained Hit

Two talents at the top of the tree:

1. +25%(Now 20%) toughness on single enemy heavy attack

2. +25%(Now 20%) toughness on multiple enemy heavy attack

Feel No Pain was additive, and is now multiplicative

Just to further the point

So you went from 33% toughness back per swing to 28%, and that's just a completely marginal change no matter how you slice it

[candid agate]

@arctic rampart the entire world of catachan is a testament to my belief

but you do you

[somber axle]

because I love Catachan Jungle Fighters and tbh the aesthetic of crazy bastard running through Nurgle's finest with nothing but a knife is pure elation for me sometimes

[forest scaffold]

and you went from ~72% damage reduction to ~55%

[candid agate]

@somber axle exactky

[forest scaffold]

that one is bigger, but not really noticeable either

[hollow turtle]

Lol I really love that the Elysian Drop troopers finally made it into the game.

[forest scaffold]

Like you REALLY have to be swamped in ranged enemies to feel the changes to feel no pain

[hollow turtle]

I was waiting for the Harakoni Warhawks or them.

[somber axle]

YEAH SAME ELYSIANS ARE ONE OF MY FAV REGIMENTS

I ADORE THEIR LOOK

I bought literally every single Elysian outfit day 1 for all classes

I love them too much

[hollow turtle]

Now I'm waiting for the Tanith 1st and only.

[candid agate]

tbh i like the look of the moebians

if only they werent traitors 😦

[somber axle]

you can look like Moebian loyalists one sec

[arctic rampart]

the emperor made me dislike conventional weapons. I must use pew pew burr burr (power-activate-noise)

[candid agate]

yeah all my vet loadouts have the new gasmaks helmet

[hollow turtle]

That's the Moebian 6th. There are still moebian loyalists

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/40k-darktide-warhammer-40k-warhammer-40k-darktide-gif-12244864741850090018

[candid agate]

@arctic rampart the emperor loves all his weapons equally

[somber axle]

become the teaser trailer squad

[hollow turtle]

The blue boys are the Moebian loyalists.

[candid agate]

yeah but those shoulders are disgustingly huge

[somber axle]

also yeah Ogryn gets CRAZY survivability LOL

[candid agate]

its like having two dwarve planets on my shoulders

[somber axle]

best survivability in the game tbh

no one can outlast an Ogryn

they're built to endure the worst

Zealots are uncatchable but Ogryns are unkillable

[arctic rampart]

thy wrath be op

[candid agate]

unless a gunner sneazes in their direction

*sneezes

[hearty panther]

i was also doing a kmart elysian for a good while

[hollow turtle]

And veterans are...

Well.. Veterans

[hearty panther]

i just really like the recon lasguns, and was like, who even uses these in the lore, i wanna make a fit

[junior needle]

fnp going multi is actually a nerf

[hollow turtle]

The Drop Troopers, and Harakoni Warhawks

[somber axle]

that's honestly not a bad look tbh and I think it's a pretty good aesthetic for Vet

[junior needle]

It's much worse now than it used to be

[arctic rampart]

thats a double edged sword spec. half of the people that do ^ are completely useless. the others are amazing.

[junior needle]

In addition to losing stacks on toughness

[forest scaffold]

I'm aware

[forest scaffold]

this is an exaggeration

[junior needle]

[somber axle]

even nerfed Ogryns still have S tier survivability no other class can rival tbh

[hearty panther]

it is indeed solidly 'okay'

[junior needle]

Yeah losing stacks on toughness is a big deal

[somber axle]

VoC Vets shouting every 20-30 seconds wish they could be as unkillable as the average Ogryn just existing

[arctic rampart]

that helmet looks like it should be a double beer sippy helmet cup and I cant unsee it

[hearty panther]

meanwhile my psyker and zealot are dripped af

[forest scaffold]

cool story, I still gain 28% toughness per swing

until that particular humdruggery is actually nerfed

the FNP nerf is irrelevant

[somber axle]

SAME

quick

show them

[junior needle]

That's nice and all, but losing big tdr is pretty relevant still

[hearty panther]

books

i need more books

[forest scaffold]

Sure, for things like standing in the open against machinegunners

[hollow turtle]

I still haven't seen anyone else rock the tan and black.

[forest scaffold]

but if you just waltz up to a group of enemies

you become invulnerable

nbd

[junior needle]

Yeah I think that's an exaggeration

[candid agate]

i love this substance over style look

[arctic rampart]

dolph lundgeletor?

[junior needle]

Unless it's a bunch of chaffe

[hearty panther]

the FNP nerf basically keeps you from doing the VERY stupid edge cases of walking through six+ reapers but in all other instances ogryn is still dummy strong

[forest scaffold]

I don't think you really understand how strong 28% toughness PER SWING is

[hollow turtle]

Dayum. I'm trying to get that armor

[balmy flume]

3 more now.

[somber axle]

that's a really good look

[hearty panther]

not kill conditional, just gotta bounce your stick off of something's head

it's ridiculous lol

[forest scaffold]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[junior needle]

I've played shield ogryn with that before, although without confident strike

[hearty panther]

ogryn never die

[candid agate]

can the zealot even read

[junior needle]

So 25% vs 28%

[hearty panther]

i understand through FAITH

and by KILLING ANY that disagree

[forest scaffold]

old ogryn was 33% toughness per swing

new ogryn is 28%

[somber axle]

I'm still working on earning that with Infiltrate because it looks SO good

[arctic rampart]

Of course the Zealot can read scriptures, Heretic!!

[candid agate]

lol emperor reads your books for you like a bed time story

[forest scaffold]

but yeah, without CS it'd've been 25%

which is still re[dacted]

[hearty panther]

plus the toughness replenish bonuses got fixed so

you might actually be in the same space or ahead depending

[forest scaffold]

Yeah, heavy hitter is now 10% toughness back per kill

[candid agate]

shouldnt this ogryn talk be in the ogryn section thinking about it

[forest scaffold]

instead of 5

or whatever

[hearty panther]

class chats are gender fluid

[forest scaffold]

so ogryn theoretically caps out at 38% toughness per swing

[candid agate]

fair enough

[hearty panther]

we are all ogryns on this blessed day

[forest scaffold]

because ogryn kills something every swing

[somber axle]

I'm not very good on my Ogryn tbh

[hearty panther]

oh i hate ogryn, sadly

[candid agate]

ogryn looks at an enemy angrily and they die on the spot

[somber axle]

I have all classes at 30 but Ogryn is my least experienced class

[forest scaffold]

I'm level 483 on ogryn

[hearty panther]

i havent even hit 250 played missions with ogryn

meanwhile zealot is at 1,000+, psyker and vet at 500 each

level

its quite a discrepancy

[hollow turtle]

I'm such a ranged user that zealot is actually the hardest class for me to get into.

[arctic rampart]

wow I'm a noob

[hearty panther]

but i just dont gel with the way ogryn moves

[arctic rampart]

My highest level is vet at like 230s?

[forest scaffold]

I just have a bunch of hours

[wanton dawn]

Am 1400 smthing on vet

[candid agate]

lol my vet is at 110 extra levels and my highest over level for classes is 28 levels extra lmao

[hearty panther]

i put more time into darktide than my actual job its not really something to brag tbh

[forest scaffold]

^^^^^^^^^

[chilly saddle]

I will probably never do this. Tried it for one game. What a disgusting keystone. Just awful to use

[hearty panther]

you play too much like me and you get there

[forest scaffold]

^^^^^^^^^^^

[terse idol]

Thats

Pretty easy

[arctic rampart]

It just means you forgot to have kids

[gray finch]

just play crab veteran

[hearty panther]

oh i didnt forget

they're out there

[forest scaffold]

uh

[candid agate]

i hate the concept of crab veteran

[forest scaffold]

marksman focus get better with the changes

[candid agate]

it seems so boring

[arctic rampart]

u boys like mexico?

[terse idol]

If you kill 5 guys with headshots you get 10 stacks of marksmens focus

[forest scaffold]

its like 3 and 6 seconds now?

[hollow turtle]

I have this pinned. Haven't started it, but I think its manageable if using it with a full auto weapon from corner of the room. Just aim at head level.

[terse idol]

Don't crab then

[forest scaffold]

instead of 1 and 3?

[candid agate]

im not planning to

[forest scaffold]

You actually get a lot of leeway between headshots now

[terse idol]

Camouflage helps give you a few stacks for standing still for a moment

It's not that hard

You don't need to stand there like a rock 😭

[faint beacon]

with the recent buffs it lets you maintain the stacks whilst on the move

you just need to be quick to snap onto heads

[hearty panther]

marksman uptime is damn near 100% nowadays, so long as your gun is in your hands and you have ... basically any capacity for headshots

[forest scaffold]

^

[somber axle]

My fav looks on my Zealot, Psyker and Ogryn

[wanton dawn]

"Crab" works if you are using melee

[forest scaffold]

If you can get a headshot once every 3 seconds, you won't drop stacks

[faint beacon]

I can play a fucking aggressive HH and maintain 10 stacks

[forest scaffold]

and that shouldn't be that hard

[somber axle]

the Zealot sword skin is SO PRETTY

[faint beacon]

Besides the HH forces you to Headshot lmao

[forest scaffold]

not particularly fun for a few

[arctic rampart]

that armor for zealot is misleading. its got the glow effect but then in game it doesnt

[forest scaffold]

and I feel bad for controller players

[terse idol]

If you also are a madman you can also like, bring an automatic weapon

[hearty panther]

i couldnt find any good colours to go with that evis when it was available

so i passed on it, sadly

[forest scaffold]

CIAG with marksman focus goes hard

Did you want 2500 dps on a crusher?

[faint beacon]

Probably suffering for them unless they're good at aiming with controller

[forest scaffold]

I heard you wanted 2500 dps on a crusher

[hearty panther]

i only pick stuff up as a i dream up an outfit on the fly, never buying cause "oh perhaps later"

so i have missed out on some nice potential pairings, but thats the way she goes

[wanton dawn]

I got 200 stacks per game over the last 6 game. It really isnt that bad BUT need a proper build

[candid agate]

you could always just 3 shot a crusher with a stub revolver

[terse idol]

okay

I mean CIAG is just

Better still

😌

[hearty panther]

marksman recon las

[faint beacon]

I mean by that mindset we should all just use CIAG

[candid agate]

whats ciag mean again i forgor

[faint beacon]

but that's boring

[terse idol]

Columnus infantry auto gun

[forest scaffold]

CIAG Marksman can get over 4000 unyielding dps

[candid agate]

oh that thing

[forest scaffold]

let me see revolver do that

[somber axle]

ok let me find something dumb one sec

[terse idol]

Again, folks, you don't gotta over-think marksmens focus

[hearty panther]

CIAG stands for crappy idiots all (use this) gun

[candid agate]

revolver may shoot slow but the number dont lie

[terse idol]

doesn't matter if the number don't like

CIAG is

well still op

[wanton dawn]

Meh, plasma is safer than ciag

[forest scaffold]

Yeah I don't fault people for not wanting to use the CIAG

[somber axle]

here you go

[arctic rampart]

im not an IAG guy but I like the mk1?

[chilly saddle]

The grind is getting serious at 4000+

[forest scaffold]

yeah I'm aware

[faint beacon]

Love meh Headhunters

simple as

[upper nimbus]

hey my b i didnt see this but this is good to know. So bit delayed, but thanks. I just dont want to waste time with weapons that, just as is, i like alot and knowing what I know now it's a bit of a gut punch. So Surgical and Weight of Fire seems to be the combo for the hellbores eh? what about Perks?

[forest scaffold]

still have no idea what build that was

[terse idol]

they need to stop giving us gimp masks fr

[forest scaffold]

azrael wasn't too forthcoming with that info

just that video

[somber axle]

I don't either tbh but I have it saved because it was so funny LMFAO

[hearty panther]

you can infer a lot from just the buffs

[candid agate]

AGRIPINA MK XIV QUICKDRAW STGUB REVLOVER MY BELOVED

(i use the zarona lmao)

[hearty panther]

i like agrip, just keep throwing knives on me

[chilly saddle]

Btw mark 2 tactical axe with weapon specialist and just all the melee talents is absolutely the most amazing weapon I’ve used in Darktide I love it

[hearty panther]

cause it aint no zarona

[upper nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/shane-gun-spinning-gun-trick-revolver-gif-22103266

[somber axle]

Azrael casually dropping that he can McCree High Noon all bosses and then never explaining

[forest scaffold]

Yeah. At least Azrael said something along the lines of "I merely put this together to show the absurdity of the new veteran tree. This isn't a particularly good build for live play"

[terse idol]

just use the Rashad 😌

[forest scaffold]

which is fair

[terse idol]

but jokes aside

That's goood

[faint beacon]

That the uh, sustained fire crit + crucian roulette?

[hearty panther]

oh yeah i mean, the monsters are literally standing still

so thats right out there to start

[chilly saddle]

Hate Rashad lol

[arctic rampart]

excuse me but the tactical axe is not power or chain..................

[forest scaffold]

tell that to the meatgrinder andys LOL

[somber axle]

from the buffs I think they were running Trickshooter and Crucian tbh but I have no idea what their talent set up was like to allow this

[forest scaffold]

(I will not retract that shade. They deserve to be called out)

[hearty panther]

do we call them andys now

[candid agate]

i love that i have the two knifes at 543 (mk3) and 544 (mk4)

[hearty panther]

whomst conferred upon them this title

[candid agate]

almost perfectly balanced for my preference

[hearty panther]

the meatgrinder is useful but boy, i have been bounced off the 'pillar test' shit for a long time

[faint beacon]

Looks to be Tag with 8 stacks, idk if it has rending or if rending even helps at all with Bosses

[hearty panther]

among other silly tests

[forest scaffold]

I think the pillar test is good for MAXIMUM EFFICIENCY

[somber axle]

definitely using Unyielding damage perk too

[forest scaffold]

but only if you come at it from that angle

[hearty panther]

that's really it, it tests a hypothetical

and that hypothetical is ... fake as fuuuuuuuuck

[forest scaffold]

realistically, attack patterns matter way too much for the pillar test to be truly good in reality

[candid agate]

i mean we're forgetting what it would do it normal enemies

[somber axle]

they must have stacked anything and everything to make that one burst fire with Exe Stance and 8 Stack Focus Target absolutely insane then run it multiple times until Crucian delivered on giving them all shots as crits

[candid agate]

which makes it even more viable

[forest scaffold]

sure, old chainsword can kill something like 100 bruisers in 20 seconds

but its all diagonal heavy attacks

[chilly saddle]

Controller hasn’t stopped me from almost never missing headshots with even knives

[tame lodge]

Except for martyrdom builds on unmodified DT

[forest scaffold]

so your actual practical hitrate is only a handful of enemies per swing

[hearty panther]

like wow, great to know that if poxwalkers ever decide to amalgamate themselves into a 100-deep pile like some sort of fucked up voltron and stand overtop of each other in a single pixel density, that heavy - light is a better moveset

but thats ... fucking never

[somber axle]

Marksman, For the Emperor, maybe even Close Quarters Killzone

[hearty panther]

so who cares

[faint beacon]

I used to be like that when I played nothing but COD Zombies on 360-Xbone lmao

could land headshots like fucking nothing but I've adjusted to PC

[forest scaffold]

this is an amazing image

thanks for this

[hearty panther]

and like

even IF

obviously a HUGE IF

that happened in a real game

your first swing would immediately slap ten of them out of that pile

[candid agate]

a plague will make that some day

[hearty panther]

it's a completely arbitrary test

it would be better called a dopamine barometer

[candid agate]

trust in nurgle to fuck us over

[faint beacon]

He's been fucking me over a bit lately with some of the matches I keep getting

[forest scaffold]

there's a couple exceptions to this

[faint beacon]

where its just wrong place wrong time situations back to back

[forest scaffold]

combat axe, power sword, all of ogryn's cleavers

[hearty panther]

you're three other people tho, all doing loads of shit that potentially stagger

[candid agate]

same every time i try to play ogryn my allies lose all functions in their brain or im dealing with 500 crushers, snipers and gunners

[faint beacon]

I may or may not have been thrown into a Crusher Overhead by a Mutant once

[wanton dawn]

Ps6 moveset is bonker strong

[forest scaffold]

Yeah I totally get that Exp.

But you know

its the internet

[Semantics]

[hearty panther]

excuse me phone provider how do i owe you negative dollars?

you cant just text me that

[forest scaffold]

[hearty panther]

and not elaborate

[faint beacon]

we owe YOU

money

[hearty panther]

fucking what

[forest scaffold]

looks like you're getting a small payday

[hearty panther]

dont make me waste my time calling

[faint beacon]

🫵 YOU

We owe YOU

money

[hearty panther]

ill just make the usual play of ignoring this problem

[forest scaffold]

if shits on autopay

and your payment info is still correct

it'll get sorted eventually

[hearty panther]

yes so im just ignoring it cause my actual balance is unaffected

[faint beacon]

They most likely will just toss you the amount they took out that wasn't needed

[hearty panther]

but like, lmao

[faint beacon]

so just be surprised if you suddenly get like

pocket change

out of nowhere

lmao

[hearty panther]

"your bill is up! the balance due is $-100!"

"hmmmmm"

[faint beacon]

Oh fuck nvm

100 free dollars!

[dreamy spade]

What's the best infantry lasgun?

[hearty panther]

i knew stealing the reverse cards from that uno pack would work itself out

[restive mountain]

What're you doin in here

[forest scaffold]

I dunno

I needed to see how the puniez were doing

[restive mountain]

Never figured I'd see you in this back alley part of town

[forest scaffold]

maybe do a little flexing on them

[restive mountain]

You finally get that armor you wanted?

[forest scaffold]

nah

I'm at 2875/3500

[restive mountain]

Shame.

[faint beacon]

Honestly curious

[forest scaffold]

just kinda pluckin along

[faint beacon]

you guys at all have been having any DC issues at random

Cause I occasionally get dumb ones like this lmao

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/28gvp9jKU3frYW/d1337rhMxlRx?invite=cr-MSxaZWosMTA3NDAxNTczLA

[restive mountain]

If it makes you feel any better, I haven't made any progress for the no downs penance.

I've begun to lose my sanity as I witness players throw.

[candid agate]

is that the ogryn one?

[restive mountain]

No.

It's the general one.

[candid agate]

oh that

[faint beacon]

The flawless Execution ones?

[candid agate]

no idea if ive got it or not

[restive mountain]

No, Atoma Elite Guard.

[hearty panther]

meh, i got flawless execution eventually without focusing on it

[faint beacon]

P A I N

[restive mountain]

No downs on Auric Maelstrom.

[hearty panther]

im sure youll get those ones too

eventually

[faint beacon]

That'll come eventually

[restive mountain]

I've spent 5 hours last night.

[faint beacon]

I have to do no deaths on Aurics so im just taking my toughness tank into Aurics as of now

[hearty panther]

i just sorta find it funny

[restive mountain]

And the closest I've got was on carnival with 3 zealots.

[faint beacon]

generate toughness like crazy for everyone

[restive mountain]

Until one ran off and got his shit stomped in by maulers.

I almost sat out on my balcony in silence

[candid agate]

have a specific class for that like zealot relic or vet voc?

[forest scaffold]

Try to hunt for TRS-150 Relay Station I guess. There's really only one trouble area on that map

[regal aurora]

111th power sword, still no power cycler IV

[restive mountain]

The desert map?

[forest scaffold]

Yeah..

All you have to do is worry about the battery arena

[wanton dawn]

Got this one without trying. Turn out VoC melee prevent mate from going down most of the time

[forest scaffold]

from there on its smooth sailing

[restive mountain]

I tried that.

[faint beacon]

Vet VOC

[restive mountain]

I really did.

[candid agate]

alrignt i know my mission now

[restive mountain]

You can't account for people wanting to be anime protags and running off on their own.

[forest scaffold]

Play with the pals Argus

I know you have friends

[restive mountain]

Everyone I know is either EU or moved on to helldivers.

[wanton dawn]

Also being able to os mutant wave on ps charged light hit means 200 yellow is back

[restive mountain]

Besides I'm too stubborn to earn it in a premade

[faint beacon]

Use this thing and just generate myself, anyone near me, and anyone near the kill toughness

Use a PS6 for getting hordes off me

[restive mountain]

I wanna be like those goobers who earned it in pubs.

[faint beacon]

sole purpose is to spam VOC

[candid agate]

that weapon customisation is disgusting

[faint beacon]

EXACTLTY!

Thats why I do it!

[candid agate]

thing looks like someone put a hole into it

[faint beacon]

I make abominations lmao

[restive mountain]

Does God know you do these things

[faint beacon]

No

[restive mountain]

[faint beacon]

not yet

dont tell him

[wanton dawn]

As for the no down, i got it after deciding i would dodge mid-game join. Otherwise it is too much of a pain

[faint beacon]

please

[restive mountain]

See yeah that's a big one, I've been put in a metric butt load of mid game matches where everyone is either on the brink of death or I'm the last alive.

[wanton dawn]

Mid-game join do not increase streak

But it can stop it

Its lose-lose

[forest scaffold]

I was on the shitter earlier thinking about the "Complete 10 auric missions in a row without dying" and how it should probably be split up into "Survive 10 auric missions in a row on X class"

IE: One reward for each class for doing the challenge

[faint beacon]

@candid agate Could probably toss the talent tree if you want to see it but thats up to you

[forest scaffold]

a little bit of peen measuring went into this. People are generally going to look down on Ogryns doing it because Ogryn never dies

[restive mountain]

It's really not hard to do, if you get close to dying

Just tell your team you're gonna get milk

[forest scaffold]

and it'd allow people to flex by doing it on all 4 classes

[restive mountain]

And leave

[candid agate]

ive literally just made one thats probably horrible

[restive mountain]

IT doesn't reset progress

[forest scaffold]

Oh

[candid agate]

but it has some toughness replenisement

[forest scaffold]

that's boring and dumb

and for people with weak will

[wanton dawn]

Ppl are already cheesing it

[forest scaffold]

only milk drinkers do that

[faint beacon]

3 toughness curios, Melee of choice thats good for Carapace

[restive mountain]

That's why I tell people there's nothing special about either of those penances, cause anyone can cheese them

[faint beacon]

I might just toss it in here anyways

[candid agate]

problem is i can never get a third toughness curio thats good

[faint beacon]

Chainsword and PS's are typically your go too

[forest scaffold]

Well. I'll know I did it legit style skeet skeet 420 blaze it or whatever

[candid agate]

the melk lottery has fucked over too much

[forest scaffold]

and that's all that matters

[faint beacon]

Feels bad

[restive mountain]

Word

[faint beacon]

I usually just go to brunt

[forest scaffold]

I will always wear the [Reject] title anyway

[faint beacon]

waste 500k

get something usable

and stick with it

[restive mountain]

I wanna get my hands on the Nomad title

[chilly saddle]

Most stressful clip ever, and an endorsement for stamina curio with stamina regen

[candid agate]

you should be able to get curios from brunt

[wanton dawn]

Did it legit too. Dodging on death is lame

Last game was stressful cuz of milk drinker dodging

[candid agate]

@faint beacon btw what was that lagun model

[faint beacon]

2024 Atoman Mauler Meet Up! Be there or be square!

[candid agate]

kantrael or ect

[faint beacon]

Heavy variant

I cant recall its name

[forest scaffold]

this is the intended gameplay loop right now anyway so don't feel bad if you don't have uber pog 550 perfect stat distro weapons

[faint beacon]

but its the slower rate of fire

[restive mountain]

Silo Cluster was such a kick in the scrotum, so many people dying on the stairs going down in the beginning area.

[candid agate]

yeah thats kantrael

thanks

[faint beacon]

I get 373+'s all the time

[wanton dawn]

I just feel like no down penance are lame anyway

[restive mountain]

I mean yeah they're ass.

[candid agate]

wait no its not

[faint beacon]

Its not a 380 but im satisfied

[candid agate]

im stupid

[restive mountain]

But it's the rarest penance to show off atm.

It's basically

"Hey guys I am competent enough to complete a auric without shitting the bed"

[faint beacon]

No deaths 👍

No downs 👎

thats my take

[wanton dawn]

No dodge

[forest scaffold]

I just let my gameplay do that

[faint beacon]

cause sometimes you'll just get completely fucked over

[forest scaffold]

I got told "nice clutch" this morning

[faint beacon]

That would go hard as a penance im just saying

[forest scaffold]

and that was nice

[wanton dawn]

When ppl write my name i know i did good

Unless it is insulting

[forest scaffold]

For having basically 1700 hours

I've only experienced a handful of salty tears

one dude went full on racist into a mic once

because he died the second he joined mid-match

[hearty panther]

incidents drop to near zero when you turn off voip

[forest scaffold]

and a couple "l2p noobs" leavers in text chat

[hearty panther]

its a real lifehack

[wanton dawn]

Well, i only experienced tear from ogryn. Oh, and a vet who though i was cheating back during limbsplitter bayo

[terse idol]

[faint beacon]

@candid agate Apologies for the grouped images cause I seriously need to get the mod that compacts the skill trees, but if you care to see the talents I use these

[forest scaffold]

It was very red-pill deep south kinda 1960s kinda rant

for literally no reason

[faint beacon]

You're not really meant to kill

[wanton dawn]

To be precise, ogryn with reliance on survivalist

[terse idol]

Man just had to get the southern out

[faint beacon]

you're meant to keep the team alive with toughness and yourself with toughness

[forest scaffold]

(other than that he dodged into a trapper net, got hit by a burster, then ate a crusher overhead in the span of 3 seconds)

while in the middle of a horde

I will never understand the human psyche

[wanton dawn]

Well, being a shitter on the internet is as old as the internet

[faint beacon]

reminded me of this incident

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/281fAyUFBcaCNW/d1337DSD9wdY?invite=cr-MSxncngsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

3 pox bursters

[forest scaffold]

lol

I shot a burster yesterday in front of a veteran

(He had pushed it)

but he hadn't dodged far enough

[faint beacon]

gets up

fucking dies

[forest scaffold]

and it turned out to be 4 bursters inside of each other

[faint beacon]

you know how it is

[wanton dawn]

I saw a 12 busters conga line explode once in its full lenghtly glory

[faint beacon]

Auric Mael?

Cause I think my two favorite conga lines on Mael is Mutant lines and burster lines

Malice and Hatred form when its maulers or crushers

[wanton dawn]

I rarely touch other diff than auric mael

[faint beacon]

Usually do Auric, Auric Mael, but if im just brainlessly grinding materials its just damnation

Loaded in to be instantly downed by a crusher

and my game just crashed typing this

Today has been a very interesting tide day

[wanton dawn]

Outplayed scrub

[faint beacon]

Yeah mb should've dodged while loading

[somber axle]

the best is when a mutie conga line runs through a pox bomber cloud

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/28tzF7mVqNWlbQ/d1337qnvyQSv?invite=cr-MSxXNTEsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

[wanton dawn]

I would have dodged while loading

[faint beacon]

I got this though while loading in lmao

Wait they ever fix the Auric Maelstrom penance?

finish it 5 times without dying

[wanton dawn]

Yes

Hotfixed it

[faint beacon]

Fuck might do that instead

[somber axle]

what do laspistols want again

[serene bough]

dumdum + ghost i guess

or some other damage blessing

[winter grove]

Mk 2 likes dumdum and uh

[faint beacon]

Infernus if you're doing Crit iirc

[winter grove]

Forgot the burning stacks

Infernus yes

[somber axle]

ok thanks

[silver pond]

Can anyone show me their chainswords or just know off the top of their heads what a good chainsword should have/focus on?

[radiant chasm]

Savage sweep rampage, wrath also works compared to sweep

[remote gale]

I swear this penance feels like it's gaslightling

[somber axle]

this is what I use but there's a guide in pins to give a better breakdown of what they want

[remote gale]

I just had a 40 minute game, constantly switching between melee and ranged for specialists and
+3 progress

[candid agate]

god can i get an auric maelstrom without 2 psykers

god

help me

[somber axle]

here you go

page from the guide on Chainswords

[silver pond]

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo want bayonnet charge. Using mk2 helbore. What should ulgo get?

[somber axle]

here you go

Though

Onslaught was renamed to Weight of Fire

so you want Surgical + Weight of Fire as Blessings

Unarmoured is VERY important for a breakpoint

for reference

this is my Mk II

[faint beacon]

We had an ogryn

they left

[somber axle]

you probably want Maniac over Unyielding if you can get it

[faint beacon]

it immediately fell apart the moment I got put over a ledge by a CS lmao

[hoary horizon]

Why knife white?

[somber axle]

Oh it's my weird skin

[hoary horizon]

Oh okay

[hollow turtle]

I can't remember what's preferred. Flak or maniac?

[hoary horizon]

Gale Peace. Want Ulgo to help?

[somber axle]

on what weapon?

[hoary horizon]

Okay thanking you

[hollow turtle]

Lasgun IA

[faint beacon]

Unsure, kinda just been popping into Maels to assist with people and possibly try to knock out the 5 without dying penance but I'll definetly take it into consideration big man

[faint beacon]

Unsure if I should keep this but

[hoary horizon]

Okay!

[faint beacon]

I've been holding onto it

[somber axle]

this one yeah?

they're both high value on the Mg1a

[hollow turtle]

Yeh

[somber axle]

if you have to choose I'd recommend Flak over Maniac

most maniacs fall over

only muties take forever to shoot through but if you have Headhunter/Deadly Accurate and tap their heads consistently they still fall over

I'd prioritize Flak over Maniac if you can't get both because shooting Mauler chests is a pain otherwise

[hollow turtle]

Kind of what I was thinking. 👍 I got those blessings.

[faint beacon]

Its hilarious how a lot of Veteran weapons boil down to click on head and drop it quickly lmao

[somber axle]

I think it's good tbh one sec

[faint beacon]

No good perks but Very good blessings

[terse idol]

Niche

[somber axle]

you've got Surgical, Onslaught and solid damage stat. Stopping Power is ok. You'll probably find an update on the Mk III eventually

[faint beacon]

Its alright

[hollow turtle]

Admittedly, this one still pisses me off, but I hold onto it.

[somber axle]

still a solid Mk III imo

even without the recommended perks

[terse idol]

ammo duumpp

😌

not bad at all

[faint beacon]

Shocktrooper when I aim for 3 seconds and never run out of ammo

lmao

[terse idol]

😌

[somber axle]

honestly yeah except CIAG which can just bodyshot things and still drop them quick

they drop them quicker on clicking heads

but it's CIAG so it barely cares unless it's a boss

[faint beacon]

Then you actually aim at head

but then instead of going through 13 bullets

you go through 2 Mags

shocking

[somber axle]

TTK is exceptional on all specials/elites with CIAG with or without aiming at head

[faint beacon]

lol

[somber axle]

just faster if you can keep the crosshairs tracking the head while the CIAG is bouncing

[candid agate]

gentlemen this isnt very veteran related but how do i assemble a group with the vox-lfg because ive never used it before and dont understand the instructions

[faint beacon]

Good question

I have no clue either

but I can obviously boil it down to each channel being dedicated to regions

[somber axle]

I've never done it either so idk

[faint beacon]

I usually just ask in here if anyone cares to do Mael runs or something

[candid agate]

emea is europe (one im planning to use)

[faint beacon]

nasa 😔

[molten hound]

does darktide have integration with discord

i dont think so

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo from canadia

North of cadia

[candid agate]

last time i used which was like a year ago i had to friend someone on steam

[somber axle]

VEGAS BABY so like USA/Nevada

[candid agate]

so that doesnt bode well for its integration

[somber axle]

it's why I'm always gambling on crits

[faint beacon]

patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[molten hound]

i think you just put up an invite link to your vc and paste your friend code into chat

[candid agate]

lemme see what people are saying in the vox channels

[faint beacon]

I had too

im sorry lmao

[candid agate]

people seem to just put what they wanna do and put in the voice chat they're ub

*using