#veteran-class
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green, im assuming thats mk2, is the worst of both worlds. low damage and fire rate
Ew
dont tell me mk2 also uses 2 ammo per shot
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1 saving grace i suppose
Still shit ammo economy
thats just something you have to live with using a recon
wdym shit ammo econ
because 99% of us aren't using deadshot with recons
ok yeah you're right
mfw everyone isnt running 3x3 stam and deadshot recons
I sometimes forget I'm really one of the very few wearing this clown paint into battle

gotta gear up so Wolfer knows trouble is coming
Wolfer watching me crouch sliding through a hailstorm of bullets
grind 4500 penance points to become Moebian 6th and take friendly fire backshots

every Ogryn I've ever met has been competing to take my backshots tbh
🤨 📸
me when my ammo economy goes out the window because an Ogryn walked through me
...wait a second
how many cats exist in Vet chat
if we have enough cat Vets can we petition to have this renamed to cat-class
This is why I think they should make friendlies be able to be shot through
tbh I think half the reason people favour plasma so much is because you can shoot through Ogryns
just add friendly fire so criting your team still saves you ammo
Helbores can kinda do it too but only if it's one Ogryn
if there are two they double up on eating your shots
till the angry ogryn turns around and pelts you with a rock
Guilty lol
it's ok I remember having fun shooting through some walls with plasma too
it is a funny gun and tbh with the new ammo econ I might revisit it
it was just too strong and easy to play with before but the ammo efficiency taking such a massive hit from surv nerf might make it more fun to play with for me
It's slightly rough if you have teammates take a large ammo when you need a large now
I've had Vets sprinting over to me when I ping a large ammo bag
Before I could try and ignore it
yes my child consume and continue to wreak havoc
unleash the plasma
I will scour the shadows for more ammo tins and bags
k ty
first one, also because it's a mk6
Try the knife when you're ready to have fun and stop spamming the activate button
with the MK VI you can get the funny 1 tap push attack kill on Crushers
On a weapon with already bad mobility? God...
Literally not going to notice a singular difference between 78 and 63
You really don't start hurting until 50
I do notice when I am using anything below 70
It's a boring weapon regardless
Ok
Actually 51. You lose a dodge at 50.
Shut up nerd
Sure.
Ty
Damn, I forgot I had a 2 TB HDD that I never initialized 
I always knew it was there but I stopped thinking about it after a while and I just recalled it
Whats next, forgetting the alamo?
Mk6 is less boring than Mk3 actually. But knife is not that much interesting tbh.
Bruh
Trust me there aint a thing you could ever say that would match or hurt me more than what I told myself
Oh noooo he told me knife sux fuuuuck I'm pissed
Reee
I didn't say that
Yes huh
Nope
Knife is the best weapon in the game hands down. It's fun stat is maxed
Not very interesting =! Sux
Right
The reddit stick isn't very interesting so that makes it suck to use
When I play video games I want to have fun not drink nyquil
a lot of people suck at knife
Not everyone was born for greatness
I'm doing a Crit. Build, using Marksmans focus, and i have the keystone upgrade for toughness replenishment, and also exhilarating takedown and iron will. Also i got shock trooper to go along with a bit of ammo conservation
They just spend their lives hitting the activate mk6 powersword
which gives people the wrong impression, usually they get it wrong at the item building stage too
I’m trying to get a knife together for my vet
it has a lot of traps
But I also want a lawb, bolter, and devils claw
STAB
That may be their definition of fun. Or they just don't want to melee that much. Either way, Mk3 is boring. Mk6 has fun combo
Epic take. Moving on
Push attack / heavies are not really peak gaming
Mk.6 is superior
I don’t like the combos on the mk6, might just have to try it more though
You just run +9 Stam
Just give it a shot, you might actually like it
Then become sonic the hedgehog
He's trolling
I have, but am currently stuck having found an amazing hs model something for my zealot
Yea i can't always tell if someone is or not
Who?
Sunrise
I've been here since beta. I assure you I believe the powersword is boring.
My opinion not matching yours doesn't mean trolling
Oh lol. Same.
running +9 stam in darktide
Your god damn right
It is very disable brain gameplay, which is why I run it with plasma if I want to insta win damnation and farm plasteel with my brain somewhere else
Now it's a belief. Before it was just an assertion
Interesting
It's actually neither. It's a fact.
It's not
Ok
It's a judgement
How do I run into so many pedantic nerds? It's probably me. It's my fault
It's the communities I choose to be a part of
schrodinger's douchebag, they are trolling or not based on the reaction of the audience
You did start by just throwing your opinion
And btw. Pswords during the cb and right now are totally different. Especially since they introduced the Mk6
On which class?
I bet it's charge blade
The one class you play in those games.
Monster hunter?
Sorry mate I am too old to have played Monster Hunter
Those potions look like they taste like shit
That makes no sense how old are you
Do you mean too young?
Because they're still making monster hunter games
I'm fucking 31 and I played monster hunter
I am 42. It's like Pokemon. I was too old when it started becoming popular in the west. And already a PC user at that point
Yeezus and yall were calling ME grandpa
You should give it a shot. World and Rise are both very accessible
They're so accessible in fact that alot of the community gatekeep the classics
Isn't it too grindy?
What are we talking about here
When I had MHXX on my first deployment I logged 1735 hours on my save file
Damn
no i was, just me
i'm stamina hater
What's that I can't hear you all the way on the other side of the level
Bruh you have to have like perfect versions of every weapon at 2200
yea i know i'm too far up sorry
Or several versions...
Fucking pubbies
Yeah I pretty much don't have to roll
I don't think they will introduce reds
i don't want them to introduce reds
They can't even correctly balance the game rn
i think vt2 crafting is the wrong direction
DT needs to go from the bottom up to something new and exciting not swift slaying simulator
I am pretty sure the game is balanced rn around malice difficulty
Me being 4/5 on no death auric missions
my psyker teammate can't stay off of the ground for more than a minute
go to save him
die because of it\
i'd say some things are and some things aren't
I am sorry for your loss
sometimes it is hard in the moment but you have to cut your losses
let them die and get them up at the next checkpoint
your survival is more important than theirs and two deaths is worse than one
save if possible but deal with threats first and if there's no time
Heavy Bowgun
oh also Mk VI Power Sword is goofy because
boop
not mine but it was posted by someone else
got your nose
Vld worth it this patch?
not if you're a normal person
has it been worth post patch 14?
Not unless you like handicapping yourself for the experience.
just use the mk4 inflas, and download the full auto mod
it will fire it continuously as if you were clicking mouse repeatedly
you have a recon better than an actual recon
if anything it's even worse now 
yes if you embrace true clown hours like me
The Emperor keeps me busy because it's time again
everything I shoot dies very quickly short of muties and monstrosities but muties are easy to kill with melee and I tend to opt for knife or chainsword which do solid monstrosity damage too
I do this entirely because I'm a clown who loves laser vomit and loves killing Crushers
do this build at your own risk because you will suffer unless you are a masochist in which case you will enjoy the suffering like me
it has surprisingly good ammo economy with Deadshot, Opening Salvo and Headhunter IV to keep crits rolling as long as you can aim heads consistently and maintain stam regen through Focus Target + Target Down while using Duck and Dive to purposely weave into the frontline and dodge incoming fire
3 stam curios means your skin is paper and your bones are glass
no VoC or Infiltrate means you have no get out of jail free card
if you start a fight you need to be able to finish it or you will die
you must rely entirely on your situational awareness, positioning and melee fundamentals (blocking, dodging, shoving)
this all may sound dumb
so I will include a Scoreboard screenshot as proof that it is more ammo efficient in Damnation than a CIAG and Plasma
Vet on the far right is a Plasma user, the other Vet is CIAG
CIAG outdamaged me at range but still had less kills
and only 9k more damage now that I look at it again
remember that I am a clown and that this is effective but it is because I am a clown that it is effective
do not do this unless you are also a clown who wishes to suffer
Was that Auric Damnation or just Damnation?
just Damnation
I only just recently acquired Scoreboard so I'm still getting post match scoreboards as reference
I need to do an Auric Damnation and get a nice Scoreboard screenshot to show it performs there too
recon requires more brain to be effecient
plasma is just point n shoot from the hip without a care
this was a 29 minute Damnation match though so this isn't a 45+ minute match padding numbers
this is actual performance in a real game
my team mates were not bad, they performed pretty good tbh
I was able to save ammo through Shock Trooper and crit stacking then used my extra mobility with Recon's faster speed to check back alleys, under stairs, etc. to ping ammo tins and packs for the others
depending on how you value ammo crate hits vs ammo tin pick ups I was even more ammo efficient than the Zealot running flamer
Plasma user definitely appreciated me not being an ammo vacuum and scouting out ammo for them
ammo shouldn't be an issue on any missions that aren't hi shock or maelstrom lvl modifiers
you'd be right except plasma user was going through it FAST
I think some plasma gun users are still adjusting to the surv aura nerf and how plasma gameplay encourages spamming M1
look at the ammo consumed by the plasma user
That's the thing. If they're used to Aurics, then regular Damnation is exactly where you can afford to spam plasma.
Because enemy density is that much lower.
7 tins, 3 packs, 3 ammo crate hits
that's a LOT of ammo to burn on plasma
it's because I ran Recon VId with my silly build maximizing on ammo econ that I could afford to run around finding ammo for them
if I had to compete with them using a weapon with worse ammo econ we'd both be dry during matches trying to fight over tins
skill issue on when u should save ur ammo and when to use it
Veterans, what's your favorite cosmetic set?
yeah but the update just released and not everyone is terminally online or terminally online Darktide like me or some others so people with normal lives have less time to play and less time to adjust
plus Auric Damnation is where you'll generally find THE best players
people competent enough that they could solo clutch consistently if they had to
Damnation players are generally very good but the skill level isn't the same as the average person in Aurics
plus we also have a lot of returning players/possibly new players who are running in and may not have played in a while or at all jumping into Damnation and Aurics
they will need time to learn and adjust
thats only before the new update
now it is a mess since we have alot more "rusty players" coming back into auric
yeah and tbh as stressful as it is, I find it so much more fun
the more chaotic the better
sometimes after work I'm stressing because I just want a casual in and out adventure in Damnation and then my whole team falls over and I have to go into overdrive trying to save the run from a wipe
me doing puzzles for the first time while getting assaulted by specialist every 5 sec
I tend to run Damnation mainly and only dip into Auric Damnation every so often if I'm feeling spicy because tbh I don't feel my personal skill level is right for Aurics
especially not for after work when I'm zombie mode
I do not want to hunt for carries in Aurics LOL
I am not someone who likes being carried, I like to be the one doing the heavy lifting or at bare minimum feel like I'm pulling my own weight
auric isn't that bad once u know how to priortize enemies n position yourself while also knowing dodge n hit mechanics down to a T
yeah I know how to do these but I also know Maelstrom has modifiers like enemies sometimes evolving into monstrosities and if I had to fight 2 plogryns at once I'll fold every time
I'm not good enough for that kind of circus LMFAO
maybe one day I'll be a clown silly enough for it
2 chaos spawn would utterly ruin my day
Plague ogryns aren't that bad
its the chaos spawn that gives ppl the most trouble
2 burgles would just be a very long and tiring run around an arena until either a special or elite patrol takes me out
Its the BoN
I can and have consistently 1v1'd Plogryns in Damnation, but I have never had to fight 2 Plogryns at once and don't think I could do it tbh
I've seen funny videos where a Zealot is screaming "WHAT" because the AI director decided to spawn 6 monstrosities back to back to back and at once point they had 4 in the map simultaneously
bro I cannot
LOL
depends tho I play psyker shield main so its a joke to deal with BON
BoN is the highest % of bullcrap
also it would be unwise to not bring a TH zealot to a monstrosity mael tbh
makes it a cakewalk
I'd rather have something that deal with special threat
u will always have someone who can easily handle specialist
monstrosity damage is very good
Of course, cuz i play with me
I've had accidents where I have my flashlight on for my recon and don't even notice the Daemonhost curled up right in front of me during firefights
accidentally set it off
Doesnt mean i dont want more
and the fucking Zealot with the Thammer charges in and wombo combos the Daemonhost
saving my life
Emperor bless those crazy bastards
DH aren't scary anymore now that they nerf DH so that it kills only 1 person
it's scary for me the idiot who blunders into them once in a blue moon
unrelated but is your vet named kerstain
with a Recon who cannot do boss damage
Recon melts Crushers in my hands but it's a flashlight against a Daemonhost LMFAO
it can't really do much damage to Burgles, Plogryns or Chaos Spawn either
@last parcel yes lol
If you have time to shoot a boss you arent under pressure 
were you just in my match
lol guess we were in the same game
yeah i was franziska
nice
I tend to go melee on monstrosities but short of a Combat Knife Mk III I don't think I can 1v1 a Daemonhost and tbh I've literally only 1v1'd a Daemonhost with the knife ONCE
I'm sure most pubs can "somewhat" handle themselves n cover for u against specials in auric
yes exactly LMFAO
you were sick wid it
in a match where specials are running rampant, hordes are blocking off halls/doors/trying to surround and elites are walking into the fights
dealing with a monstrosity is tricky
ty the revolver is the emperor's gift
with all that happening AND the monstrosity aggro'd is a Daemonhost?
I will fold
LOL
Most can be anywhere between 100% and 30%. Doesnt mean much does it ?
luckily most times I see the Daemonhost well before it's ever a problem
and other times the guy joining midmatch gets dropped right in dick kissing distance of the DH
Most of the time i am the more experienced ppl in the lobby. Simple as thatn
Guess i have higher standard for "handling oneself" now 
Darn old man
explain

Well, i would not expect anyone to peel for me in the 1st place
my fav is when the squad is fighting in the middle of a crusher train and a new person joins
right in the center of the Crusher pain train
watch a Psyker spawn right onto a couch with 4 Crushers behind them ready to film a movie
instant death
Being proven wrong is nice
how many games have u had a pub be on par if not better than u since the update came out?
Which criteria ? Maybe i registered it
Dmg wise ? Down wise ?
dps overall / down wise yes
tho downwise shouldn't count since "most" auric pubs are good at not getting downed much
Dps Id say i dont get top in like, 20% ? Need to check later cuz
Stat memory always deceptive
Down idk. If i play exe stance i get down way more 
sent a friend request, feel free to join up if im ever on. usually play with just 3 peeps total so we always have a rando lol
I did get the auric title without cheesing dc on death* though
honestly if I don't ever feel a need to carry / clutch then I'd say the team / pubs can handle themselves fine in auric
sure thing
hopping off for now though
same, have a good evening 
I measure the ability of a team by the dog reactivity 
I've seen quite a few pubs with the hazard hunter neon frame get downed quite often recently
im in auric with 3
actually 4
Hazard hunter is fairly common atm
its a pub
the vet with the unique frame prob finished all the penances
he has the final title 
I can see how veterancy was earned
Munitorum guardian ?
yes
Thats dedication
I probably will have trouble to get it if i dont lvl up my other classes 
he got downed in 10 min of game start

well its hi shock
Fun fact: i find the average lvl number to be higher in auric rather than auric mael
yeah, true
I've seen a couple of 1000+ player in normal auric
highest I've seen in Mael was like 400
1000+ in mael exists. This dude for instance 👈
if we're going that route, highest I've seen in Mael was 750 - me.
what do you guys think
when your levels are high enough and you start saying, "Wow, my level is higher than all of my teammates combined."
and they're like +200
maybe I should start playing my other classes...
anyone have any imput on the gun?
oh ok ^^
At unhealthy amount 
tis a nice weapon
i'm yanking my chain right now
oooh aaaaah
OH ok that's a pretty amazing roll tbh
oh no
some people run Dum Dum/Infernus so you could go with that if you want
it will do more damage than Headhunter/Infernus
headhunter/dum dum imo
if you care more about ammo efficiency go Headhunter
i may go with that combo
i justr been playing stealth
so melee seem like a go to
XD
are u in a game rn?
theres a recon vet im playing with
nvm
ty for your insight
you could swap Deathspitter to Headhunter or Infernus depending on which you value more: damage or ammo econ
I found Auric Maels to just not be very fun.
then swap ranged weak spot to either Carapace or Maniac
well likely more damage so i waste less ammo
depending on which you value more
XD
deleting muties
Level 300, myself.
or deleting Crushers
They were tiring in a negative way.
very great at killing dogs though
those grenades were tedious
I ought to do more standard auric but ppl complain that i dont grab mat 
the new puzzles they added for mats can be fun though
i havent found all the puzzle syet
though it's mainly seeing Plasteel: 1040 at the end is what gets to me
lol archer
I have 21m docket, 250k plasteel last i checked. And i dont interact much with crafting
i wouldnt till they fix it
like it a huge sink
Don't worry, when they alter crafting again it'll inevitably invalidate weapons.
Rashad... probably the hardest thing to roll well...
Buying 20 axes, deleting 17 one by one, going to hadron, 1-2-3 bricked
Repeat
5min of your time lost
Best i have i got it from brunt as green
I play ps6 anyway
damn bro i though sony was still on ps5
I've been trying to get a ps6 brutal momentum at 530+
game keeps giving me sunder...
like, I shouldn't be complaining, but man
this is the current one I use
Honestly, sunder is quite good
This is why I'm coming back to the first frame...
mfs melted their vocal chords with gas to get the drop on us
Not perfect but 69% penetration is nice enough 
Meme worthy
you'll recognize me if you see me because 9 times out of 10 I'm wearing the Moebian Recon set with the cover art helmet to look like the teaser trailer boys
like this but with a Recon instead
I like to look like an NPC
and then when you die, you can brush it off as roleplaying
yes

now u need a bot title to cement yourself as a real one
1k on one class and they gotta be good yes tho true level doesn't track your other classes
basically a lvl 1000+ psyker on a lvl 40 vet
for example
Banner on low level is a giveaway
banner yes but isn't a good gauge on how experienced they are
I think the borders can "somewhat" do that depending on which one they have
Skull hoarder on a lvl 40 is not something you can just have 
Well, it did got nerfed but still require quite a playtime
I kinda rate people's skill based on their outfits during pre-game lobby
if someone is wearing the Vet helmet from completeing every penance pre-update without the goggles then they're a good Vet most times because they at least completed every penance including Make Every Shot Count
if someone is wearing the season 2 homeless person vibe cosmetics then they're usually as bad as they look
literal rags walking into their own deaths
there are exceptions
Zealots with rags are rat people and unkillable
they are murder blender monsters who will speed through maps and kill everything and anything they find
or they get caught by a hound/trapper net across the map and die when you look away for 2 seconds
no inbetween
paid cosmetics are a toss up
not really in indicator of skill, just an indicator of having money
at best you can see older cosmetics like Steel Legion/Krieg and know they've played for quite some time to have those
Catachan was THE first cosmetic outfit to hit the store and idk if it's ever returned so if I see a Catachan Vet, it's basically the same as a Vet wearing full Moebian Recon, Beta helmet or the Mortis Operative set
Veterans in more than name, but also in deeds
around from the start to the end
and still here
Best blessings for Zarona revolver? Is Surgical 3 or Crucian Roulette 3 good? Which one would be your pick?
Go with crucian



Crucian can give +30% crit to your last shot. Surgical can give +30% crit to any shot after aiming for a single second.
Surgical is betterr
I ads a lot, a single second doesn't seem to be bad, I will go with Surgical
Crucian for Agrinapinna
Volatile --> Gets Hot!
since you're basically never going to charge
probably infested --> elite damage to hit some breakpoints but i can't remember which ones so someone else will have to follow up
Thanks, will look for gets hot next
Elite foooor Dredge gunnerrs
i run flak maniac on my plasma to get the 1 shot bodyshot on flamers, and i think it still 1 shot headshots both gunners (although that might be because i have 5 stacks of redirect fire up most of the time)
On zarona, surgical. On Agri, crucian.
halfway there. Literally 
How big of a difficulty jump is damnation over heresy? Is it worth the jump for the crafting mats?
if you're used to heresy and can consistently finish it without dying
its a smaller jump than going from malice to heresy
from what I remember at least. I play this game too damn much
Thanks will do some damnation quick matches
nah idk what you're talking about
Krak grenade should do the trick right?
yes
or plasma
I'm trying to grind that out as well. And I have a plan. Wanna team up for it?
killshot ready is all i have left, cant complete, the game moves too fast for this
Cant do the final two penances for sharpshooter cause I keep getting in games with full sharpshooters lmao
Maybe later ? Though tbf I am not looking to cheese it 
I need to move stuff in mah new home
bring a recon and magdump poxwalkers for the penance
I am doing 200 average per game. Its fine
Idk why ppl think it would take super long
if there is an achievement, you must grind it out as quickly as possible
none of this natural unlocking and enjoying the game shit
Hmmm, i am in trouble 
Do not make me look for image of people in suitcase pls
Victory !
Now I need to avoid bumping it into stuff during transit !
Is get hot better than shattering impact? 
Yes
what gun is everybody using for the crit weak spot kill penance
Get hot make you go from 5% crit to 25%-30% crit over a full game
Deadshot value basically 
plasma 
Ciag
ciag weapon specialist is certainly something
Ciag works with all keystone
it works; it's just cursed 
Gonna try mk7 shovel. Thrust or uncanny/decimator?
I think uncanny is bis ?
id say thrust is only if your trying to build to 1 shot crushers/maulers. id say uncanny on this one
Mutie drive by is kinda funny I guess
shovel? more like stop sign
Hmm any reason you wouldn't use limb splitter?

I swear you can get a crusher 1ohk with if on crusherrs
Actually I tried 3 stacks thrust against crusher. That's also 60% power.
Might be clunkierr
And I didn't 1 shot it with my current build.
So maybe i'd need thrust + limpsplitter but skullcrusher is locked.
I even had +25% carapace and thrust 4 at 3 stacks.
Surely the crafting update will fix this.

It's my plasma build so I don't have 10% melee damage node.
Thrust or limb splitter that is

- cara
i think you can, but i found it annoying to make sure it's active
I wonder what a variant of plasma gun would be?
I guess I should ask what are ya using flak for
You could use Cara for both maulers and crusher
Yeeeah
That's the drawback
Very fast activation bur you really gotta hit that target
Flak to kill dreg bruisers faster I guess.
I think Cara issss betterr
I don't smoke but I do use Recon so does that count
Depends on the BP
you have to speck heavy into melee and both elite and ogryn damage nodes to 1 hit crusher. not really worth it imo but its cool you can do it
Never reply to me again
I have to use 2 specials on crusher no matter carapace or not.
Filth.
I use Mk II Recon on Psyker

I haven’t touched a las weapon in forever
recon vet is already pushing it lol, i cant imagine doing recon psyker
ammo black hole
I don't wanna do it
I want to use them. But like…revolver and columnus
posting this once again

I thought I said SILENCE
read my ammo, compare it to the ammo used by other Vets and WEEP
Headburst gunker
check the time, damage and kills
Just shoot at not hordes
you cannot silence the bells that jingle on my funny clown shoes
Listen guys brain burst is good just use EP with it and it two shots bullwalks pls guys give it back bro pls
always remember that brain burst is a precision weapon
good luck hitting me

I'm FAST
you're just giving him more stamina
Recon isn’t real and was never real. It was never good,
Idk just playing around in the meatgrinder I prefer the standard shovel. 
Or to trust recon users
you don't need to trust me
But I also prefer the standard shovel on ogryn too. Folding mechanic too hard.
if you meet me in quickplay you'll know
hehe i magdump poxwalkers
hehe die scum
oh no i ran out of ammo somehow
also the other laser is from another recon vet
This is like watching a child walk into a meat grinder
whats required for 1 shot without perfect shovel
I magdump into Crushers!
ok well not really magdump it's too ammo efficient
10-13 ammo depending on crit strings
delicious
point of reference, if i take off the 10% rending talent theyll live with 6-7 hp. if i had even slightly better penetration stat i could skip that. putting on serrated blade does actually kill them on the first bleed tick tho
cadia stands once more
On the one hand, got the “nobody downed in team in Auric Maelstrom” penance.
On the other, ended at 3/5 no deaths by a stupid bursted
burster really popped your bubble
Where's yo disclaimer
The "I am psyk warrioring these numbers"
Any power sword users wanna chime in on which should I keep or change? Power swords been kinda collecting dust in my inventory since 2021, so not sure how much the meta has changed from the old Power Cycler/Slaughterer 
my clown gifs are the disclaimer this time
need clussy
I'm too tired to give my full clown speech this time
Insufficient
just look at my funny colourful clown clothes and know I am a clown and do not be a clown
Hey there guys, just got a good CIAG roll and I've got it at gray rn
💪
What the fuck
guess you aren't sleeping soon 
Wdym I'm in bed
I ain't got dum dum on it
yet
Just went through auric with grey CIAG
It's powerful
I have all 3 of these, which one would be your pick? The one on the right I got from Melk, the rest idk, I probably upgraded them on Omnissiah
fellow veterans what finger do u guys use to press shift
Pinky
right thumb
||nah just fucking with you i use my left pinky||
damn
i thought i had a friend in u @last parcel
i use my left thumb
my friends are givin me shit for it lol
bro idk it can press space bar then curl under my palm to press shift
maybe press tab once in awhile to reassure myself that veteran is still the best class
do you keep anything on left ctrl?
i dont use left ctrl , my crouch is left alt, which i also use my thumb. got him working triple shift kek
i keep my side buttons for ping and special action
i put jump on the forward mouse button, i think it's mouse 4
so i can have my spacebar for dodging alone
interesting
i was going to put dodge on mouse 4 but i figured i already have the muscle memory for dodging on the spacebar
nah you need to put shoot on spacebar so you don't put pressure on your mouse when shooting
helps with aim 100%
nah, imma get out my razer naga and bind wasd to 2468 with jump on 5
At least you don't shift with your thumb
D:
ye my thumb does the same lol
idk where i picked it up, must have been from cs 1.6 days lul
just was playin a vet with kraks, and our team got overwhelmed with elites and i had no kraks, but i had an ammocrate, and i thought - if the other vet in the team has the "grenades from crate" passive then we are saved, and oh my god how powerful i felt when i saw that after taking ammo from the crate my grenade counter went from 0 to 2
middle finger on W & S, ring on A, Index on D and pinky just havin a good time chillin
seems likely. i've seen people do weird things because of 1.6
mfs with their keyboards rotated 90 degrees
I'm leaning on the one on the right, it has two good blessings, full damage, but lacks in crit bonus and penetration a little bit, not sure how important they are for a Zarona revolver.
I'm mfs

I don't think crit and penetration are low enough to make you miss any breakpoints, but I'm not sure on that. Elite damage is good. I'd go SF --> Surgical, then Gloryhunter --> Handcannon if you have it so it's easier to deal with armor, but Gloryhunter is decent
you lose a dodge with mobility <51 but oh well
Left having native surgical is good though, and maybe the flak perk mitigates the low penetration? not for carapace but still
well now i don't have an answer 
Yeah, I do use dodge a lot, I'm sort of conflicted here, so the first one is lacking stats that it's fine without, and has two what I assume are good blessings, wouldn't it make more sense to use that one? But then again the low base rank one is fine apart from mobility. I will do some testing of them, I think that's the best
Definitely do some testing
Anyone know how to do the Ascension Riser relic?
Stuck at the elevator bit
Not sure what to do next
I bind my shift key to my ads key. So the semi-colon.
My forward key is bound to 6 while my back is bound to shift, my left and right keys are both bound to period while my shoot key is bound to tab.
And just because I’m an Eldritch abomination doesn’t mean I don’t wanna serve the emperor
Deadshot passive seems to be good when using the Zarona Revolver, what do you think?
I've only seen it done and I haven't replicated it. After getting the battery from the shipping crate, someone goes up the elevator while someone stays behind. The one upstairs throws the battery down and the one downstairs plugs it in and pulls power (without anyone going down the elevator again). Guessing the upstairs guy just hits a button. I think you have to be a certain distance away or the elevator teleports you up too but I could never test that
its ok, i dont like spending my point on deadshot as i prefer hitting more non-crit BP's with revolver
Pox burster penance bug is annoying...
It’s not bugged, the “kill without dmging team” penance requires u to shoot & kill them at a distance
It is for some. Toke out lone pox from ranged like so many. Still stuck at 13. I'm not the only one with the problem.
Oh hmmmmm idk then
Is usable with anything but is best with slow fire rate weapons like revolver
That’s stamina cost for crit and sway right? The reload gives you time to build your stamina between bursts and even with scavenger, your ammo is limited enough that you won’t spend as much time eating stamina as you would an automatic
You can unload all your shots and probably be at half stamina, plus damage and blessings like crits the best
The answer is no, who could've guessed
How useful is Wrath here?
I have decided to separate all the “do not be downed” penances.
So yes, I will be running 15 Malice levels without being downed to farm that to start with lol.
Not good enough to do all that in Damnation…or Auric 😅
i almost got the auric one this morning
I’ve been doing auric. It’s a roll of the dice some times you get a team that sticks together. Other times they go to get milk and cigarettes.
i think brutal might be better? maybe it's just because I run brutal but I never felt like cleave amount was a problem. I don't know how much super charge adds but I'd probably switch wrath for power cycle and that sprint eficiency
3/5, then burstered.
So far made it to 4/5 and then died
pretty useless youre better of with power cycler / bromentum
at least wraith can be replaced with either
Not super useful. My one has brutal momentum and PC
What about perks, the veteran guide says carapace, maniac, unyielding, but I don't usually go for melee against those enemies, wouldn't Flak be a better replacement for sprint efficiency? I will be using this on a Krak and Zarona revolver build
Flak doesn’t change major breakpoints
I have so much to learn then, will be researching what that term exactly means
Oh ok, it's what I thought it was,
Specific dmg values that make u kill things in less hits
TLDR: "number of hits to kill"
i think the rest of that penance requires loner, so you'd have to be on zealot
but some zealot nodes that say backstab also apply to ranged weapons, so idk to the main question
alright
Backstabs are knife only unless you take the 20% backstabs damage from zealot tree but it might just be any weapon
Raking fire on your ranged weapons would also help
alright and thanks
Mistake for posting it here
Unyielding if you want better boss/bulwark damage. Otherwise flak/maniac
Ta, pal
Btw, this is literally the first Chainaxe I've ever rolled
I got obscenely lucky
Low mobility made you miss out on a dodge but high defense should help you push a lot so it shouldn't matter too much.
If you wanna go all in on a melee build and you swap in carapace you might be able to 1 shot crushers on a weakspot hit 
Oh true you would need thrust for crusher 1 shot and probably bulwark 1 shot now with their buffed health
34% mobility you run out of stamina after 1 second
Uhhh just sprint with your gun out 
I like Bloodletter
thrust would just make the attack kill instead of slowly bleeding something out is the argument there
you do need to charge a bit though
if they ever buff bleed again it might be okay on bosses at least but until then I sure don't like bloodletter myself
Well see I'm running it with Revolver, so anything I'd really need to use Thrust on anyway is being hit with Revvy, and the bleed gives me nice boss DPS
I haven't done any tests but if you have max bloodletter and the bonus ogryn damage talent you might be able to bleed them out after a light review attack. Would probably require a headshot if it would 1 shot
yeah if you feel confident with the revolver on crushers or whatever bloodletter should be fine
Plus, Kraks too
yeah it's such an absurdly high amount
Doing it and not trying to kill your team mates. :p
Fire barrels count and help a lot
Does it count when you kill them while they are burning?
Unsure, you'll have to test that
I keep getting overwhelmed with elites/ specials during damnation hi gauntlet using the vet chainsword and plasma gun build, I know it is supposed to be difficult and you need your team but I feel like really throwing out all the tools I have and still get trampled. Is vet just not build that well to handle damnation hi gauntlet?
Teammates count as 10 kills 
They are, shred grenade twice
You're not supposed to do horde. Leave it to the zealot and psyker.
Chainsword is very good at horde mulching provided you have it set up for it
Vets can handle horde
Didn't say they can't. Just not your main job.
News to me, I'm always handling hordes xD
people on that mmorpg grindset when assigning roles to classes
Your melee weapon of choice will absolutely need to be able to cleave though
People do what they have to do in situations they get thrown at.
though it's perfectly fine to bring a chainsword for hordes
and they've already got plasma
i don't see the need to shy away from dealing with hordes based on some perception of roles that each class should fulfill, especially in a pub game where you have no idea what your teammates are going to bring
that depends on build tbh
@normal stone What mk chainsword are we talking about anyways?
MK IV
I prefer the x12 chains word myself, but the 4 is more then serviceable
Are you doing heavy swings?
Not as good for mixed though
It does work well on non hi gauntlet, it's just as soon as it is hi gauntlet I need to be also on horde duty most of the time and can't focus down elites/ specials
man the amount of people quitting before dying in auric is crazy now
such is pub games
if you're not aware, the dodging in this game is quite lenient
you can usually dodge and shoot while some trash enemies are around
So I would say it is mainly a "people are failing their role" situation, but I have seen zealots/ psykers surviving on their own and saving everyone
Are you block pushing every few swings?
Yes
Might need to adjust your position more.
Could be you are bit too far in. And getting poked in the back by a few horde members.
H1 -> L mixed with some pushes in and dodging whenever I hear the sound queue or see a swing coming towards me
That might be it yeah
What blessings you have?
On chainsaw sword devastating cleave and rampage both IV, plasma gun Gloryhunter III and Keeps hot III (still working on that)
It shouldn't be that bad then. Let the ogryn and the mad priest tank the majority of the horde. And you sprinkle in a few swings here and there behind them.
Is Take A Swing bugged?
Doesn't seem to be applying to my shovel when I push enemies
Testing in Psykhanium atm
Yeah I will try to pay more attention to my positioning and see how that works out, thank you for the advice!
Yes
Also if your running devastating cleave
I hope you have the vet melee crit node as well
It also is one of the weaker cleave blessings too
I like the old shovel and MK7 more.
MK3 has a faster unhooking animation when doing its Special, I prefer it for that
Congrats
MK7's trajectory when doing a Special Heavy 1 also doesn't really sit right with me
Congrats
gz
noted, I am still unlocking more blessings for the chainsword any one in particular I should look for (already got rampage)
Hi Vet is very good at solo clutching in my experience. I think Ogryns have an easier time clutching just because as long as they can avoid disablers they have so much that just lets them instantly regen to full toughness every heavy swing while smashing hordes, elites, etc. Zealot is really easy to solo clutch with since most times when the rest of the squad goes down you'll be relying heavily on your melee. Psykers are hardest to clutch with imo just because if you go staff Psyker you need to be REALLY good with dodge slide tech and melee fundamentals like blocking/dodging/shoving or you're going to get swiss cheesed by shooters while trying to deal with threats in your face.
Vet is 3rd place for me behind Zealot but above Psyker for trying to survive on your own in Damnation High Intensity Shock Trooper gauntlet. You just have to work MUCH harder to do it than Ogryn/Zealot. Versatile loadout is key. Think of every single enemy type in the game and if your loadout has an answer to it then you know what to use and how it use it when that threat appears. Chainsword and Plasma are good at covering all your bases tbh so I'd recommend getting comfortable with backtracking if you find yourself overwhelmed in a segment and can't hold your ground. Sometimes you're next to a spawn door or staircase or something where hordes can surround you easier by circling or climbing. Finding proper positioning is VERY important
I'd consider a cleave blessing to be more important to have on the chainsword than Rampage
I run my Chainsword XIIIg with Rampage and Wrath tbh but you could do Rampage + Sweeping Strikes too
both work very well for annihilating hordes
Tell that to the Zealot nerds
They'll call you an idiot for not running Shred + Rampage
xd
MK7 just has a crazy single-target utility. I still like my old shovel more.
I suppose, yeah
XD
MK3 has a Strikedown on its Special Heavy 1 and I like that much more
Easier to hit heads
Nothing better than one-shotting the Crusher better than the Zealot xd
well yeah since Chainsword has infinite cleave on crit iirc
so faster horde clear
I present to you "we have Flamer at home"
no
same amount of cleave
crit doesn't interact with cleave in any way for any weapon besides stuff related to blessings as far as I know
If not flamer then why does it shoot flames?
the benefit of shred is that chainsword is one of the few weapons to not have any weakspot/crit damage falloff on subsequent targets hit
😔
simply remember every detail of the game
and weapons having odd properties contrary to the rest of them
I just woke up so my brain is 404
I don't think fatshark remembers every detail of their game
Bleed doesnt give nice boss dps and mk4 light spams for unyielding dps
sometimes I spread misinformation on the internet accidentally as a treat
You only rev heavies for things you can/want staggered, or if you are using thrust
Light spam with mk4 is a ton of dps because each one mini shreds (this does not proc bloodletter)
I have a second vet set up with a chainaxe I call Gorechild Jr.
Slaughter 3 (working on getting a 4), and thrust 4
You’d get way more dps with slaught headtaker than the poor time investment that is bloodletter
Thrust is great on chaxe, especially mk12. I just personally don’t like it on mk4 but that is my personal bias
That thing melts crushers
there's a stupid amount of minutiae in the game, you just gotta learn it piece by piece
hell that's half the fun for me tbh
been working on smoking 2k enemies penance, realised that's very appropriate given the date 
the horde clear on chain axe always gets me unhappy tho
It really shouldnt
Both are fine at it, mk4 being one of the better options now
Just go headtaker slaught and spam heavies and weave push attacks with mk4, or spam lights with mk12
Wait so chainsword crits & weakspot hits work essentially like pre-change BM?
Zero cleave dmg dropoff?
I don't like heavy-only attack horde clear, even hundreds of hours in. when the mk4 gets stuck in a poxwalker a little part of me dies. unfair weapon bias inherent in my system, I should be reported to the emp ..
in most other cases your finesse multiplier decreases significantly on successive cleave targets
it doesn't on chainsword
Oh that
Yea it’s neat, I’ve noticed
Do veteran’s shovels have smth similar going on
8 more malice without downing to go lol
i just started it! IT FEELS SO WEIRD
my camera keeps getting dragged to the floor
are people running the mk IV or mk XII? mk IV is the single target lights, and mk 7 is the wide lights
prob a matter of preference but
I dont want to dump defense on my crusher. is power ouput and crowd control dumpable?
vet channel
zealot is full of people not talking about the game
and i already asked and none of them just go straight to dump defesne without solid reasons
i normally only come here FROM zealots to complain about veteran players
you should never need defense when you hit higher skill stuff
you'll be killing/staggering everything before you need to worry about blocking or stamina on zealot
you could just press inspect on the weapon and see for yourself
???
also theres a crusher guide pinned in zealot chat
Imagine not using Push Attack and Dodging while melee



