veteran-class

[somber axle]

But this is the only 0%

[woeful galleon]

Yeah I haven't played for particularly long, but I don't think I've ever seen a 0% either

[somber axle]

Wanna see the difference between an 80% damage Mk II and the 0% damage one?

[woeful galleon]

Sure

[somber axle]

There's more than just the numbers displayed there but I can't show the funny armour modifiers on it until I get home

[woeful galleon]

Feel like that charged attack with the 0% is gonna miss a couple breakpoints compared to this one

[somber axle]

It definitely would yeah

[last parcel]

break my will to live lmao

[somber axle]

I'm going to try the Helbore only challenge with my 0% damage Mk II

I'm feeling extra funny today

[sleek garden]

do you guys have any tips on how to play infiltrate veteran decently

i keep using it to run near a group of shooters to suppress them but it often doesnt

and then i get stunlocked

also it feels a lot more fragile than how i normally play veteran

which is all the way down the left tree

as long as i can land headshots im hard to kill

[terse idol]

Just infiltrate during a horde

[somber axle]

I haven't used it after the recent update yet but for my infiltrate talent builds I tend to use it to reposition mostly. If ragers suddenly appear in my face and I don't want that to be my problem yet, or if I'm caught out of position in front of too many gunners and my toughness just broke. Using it offensively can be tricky but pair it with the 50% Toughness Damage Reduction node or the -90% threat node (and make sure a team mate is nearby for the latter) and it should be better

if you're still getting used to it grab the node for +1 charge on it so if you stealth into trouble you have a get out of jail free card to stealth back out too

only get a max of two of the nodes though

3 or all 4 is too expensive talent point wise

[woeful galleon]

That's good advice

[bitter turtle]

press infiltrate

run into enemies

spam melee

[woeful galleon]

When I use it it's mostly to get people up from getting in trouble

[bitter turtle]

im not even joking

[woeful galleon]

I mean, it's how you use it offensively

[somber axle]

Infiltrate with the -90% threat node is really funny because if ragers pop into your face, you vanish and then when you reappear you have 10 seconds where they'll ignore you as long as one other player is near you. So you can literally melee ragers with zero consequences during that

ALSO

[bitter turtle]

make sure you take low profile + overwatch together

[somber axle]

IMPORTANT THING

you can underhand lob grenades for free during stealth and not break stealth

[terse idol]

I mean, if you're running infil, weapon spec, like learning to realise you are basically a melee spec now

[somber axle]

you can use remotes to ping bodies/computers for objectives without breaking stealth

you can do the funny click scrolling symbol minigame without breaking stealth

[bitter turtle]

and yes

[woeful galleon]

Wait really? Somehow I actually never knew that

[bitter turtle]

stealth to pick people up is a thing

but primarily you should use it offensively

[somber axle]

you can literally vanish and drop 3 grenades and still be in stealth

just don't overhand throw a grenade

[bitter turtle]

stealth + underhand 2 frags is really strong

[somber axle]

that will break stealth

[bitter turtle]

will fix any situation

[somber axle]

this exactly yes

[bitter turtle]

ive literally

been pinned in a corner

surrounded by crushers

as the last person

and that still saves the run

[somber axle]

I got addicted to infiltrate gameplay for a bit but realised I was just passing off my problems to my team mates instead LMFAO

[bitter turtle]

like pinned as in i could not move

that's only if you use it to run away

[somber axle]

so I went Exe Stance to force myself to deal with my problems

[bitter turtle]

you should be using it to push in

[tall torrent]

U 2 still playing?

[bitter turtle]

uh oh

fox started naother one

[tall torrent]

.

[last parcel]

won'

t any problem after 25 frags

[bitter turtle]

we left

[serene sage]

we quit?

[bitter turtle]

or i left

[tall torrent]

Add me

[bitter turtle]

i assumed you were doing the same

[serene sage]

yeah

im not a quitter

i left the mission

[bitter turtle]

btw

path

[serene sage]

there is a distinction there 😤

[somber axle]

true but sometimes I'd just be funny and pop stealth then reappear to stab ragers in the face while hiding inside an Ogryn's body

[bitter turtle]

im trying out your knife 6 thing

is this tree missing anything important

[somber axle]

Ogryns can take the hits anyway

[tall torrent]

I figured out how to do smelter complex martyr’s skull

[somber axle]

or they could pre-update with that funky 71.5% toughness damage reduction they used to have

they probably still can take the hits post-update too tbh

[last parcel]

isnt that the box jump one

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/5d72fa3a7bf21af9312be3e047176945.png

its knife and laspistol btw

[tall torrent]

I don’t play infil
Also 20% ogryn/monster helps crusher 3 hit breakpoint

[bitter turtle]

i meant anything in regards to the knife im missing

[tall torrent]

Yea not having 20% ogryn/monster loses crusher 3 hit

[bitter turtle]

its ok

i can live with that

i just wanted to make sure i wasnt losing anything for the flesh tearer meme

[tall torrent]

It’s ok ig

Although

Knife rly wants a lot of +dmg stuff

Also add me

[bitter turtle]

tell fox

[serene sage]

brother i joined you

[bitter turtle]

well

[serene sage]

😭

[bitter turtle]

what am i missing in gregards to damage nodes

the ogryn and rending strikes?

[tall torrent]

20% ogryn mostly

[serene bough]

does anyone understand the new plague injector mini game for hab dreyko

[somber axle]

sharing these in case anyone wants to see the funny 0% damage vs 80% damage Mk II Helbore

damage so bad that the 80% does more damage point blanking a target than the 0% does at long range where it has the most comfy damage

[winter grove]

Pain

[fresh mango]

is there anything i should change with my chainsword?

[pallid jetty]

get tier 4 shred thats for sure, perks are fine

i personally dont like rampage on swords unless its an eviscirator

[fresh mango]

thats fair, thank you

[pallid jetty]

oh, get cleave

[fresh mango]

what about this one? probably change the perks right?

[pallid jetty]

+40% cleave on hit is good

[fresh mango]

so wrath and shred

[pallid jetty]

havent tried thrust on chainaxes, i run both power blessings

didnt think much about optimizing chainaxex

[winter grove]

@tall torrent whar do you think of this one
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bd51d34-807d-4f7f-9fcc-c639a785d299/stealth-taxes-invisible-irs

[hollow rose]

Does the auric storm survivor require to finish 5 missions TOTAL without dying, or 5 missions in a row?

[fresh mango]

its bugged so doesnt matter

[hollow rose]

Doesn't answer my question at all

[somber axle]

the hardest part of smoke grenades

is remember to use them

LMFAO

[pallid jetty]

no (?)

[hearty panther]

WASD to select a circle, keep it selected until it flashes red or white. You want white. When you find the one that is white, click. Do it two more times.

[tame lodge]

Use them excessively vs not using them

[hearty panther]

It will always be the same puzzle until it's completed so if you get knocked out of it due to combat you already know which circles were white.

[rigid pilot]

I run thrust headtaker

1% penetration

[bitter turtle]

so

from what i could tell

find the green circle

[and then press it TWICE

for some reason

if you pres sit just once it doesnt work

[tall torrent]

Me in the last event:

[bitter turtle]

yeah i figured it was up to me

cause only i had the time to sit around trying to figure it out LOL

[tall torrent]

Gg I gtg

[bitter turtle]

with stealth

[tall torrent]

Was fun

[bitter turtle]

yeah gg

btw fox

[serene sage]

ill just youtuve that minigame

[bitter turtle]

is your scoreboard as fuciked as mine

[tall torrent]

I need to queue malice hab dreyko eventually to figure out that mini game

[serene sage]

i still have noclue

[bitter turtle]

the add on + the default are really far apart now

like moreso than i remember

usually it was just a little off

but they're super out of sync now

[serene sage]

uhh this is what I have

[bitter turtle]

yeah

that's what the add on said for me

[serene sage]

ovenproof

[bitter turtle]

yeah

the default instead says i had 530k at the highest

[serene sage]

what does the default say

🤔

[tall torrent]

My 58 shots blocked must have come from the guy using recon

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/61b599f1ba90f2cfe2aad4cedf11948e.png

[last parcel]

DID SOMEONE SAY RECON

[bitter turtle]

this is what imine says

[somber axle]

I did but I'm trying for smoke penance and weapon specialist penance at the same time and it's made for some very funny runs

I've had some odd quickplay squads who just fold as soon as they see a crusher LMFAO

I've had to solo run a lot and can't clutch

😩

too rusty with knife

[last parcel]

bro got the tetanus knife

[serene bough]

tyvm

[serene sage]

wait so can you explain what the last minigame is?

[bitter turtle]

so

from what i coudl tell

i had to find the green circle

and then press it two times

if you press it only once

it doesnt work

and you have to find the green circle 3 times

idk if that's exactly how it works

[serene bough]

actually you gotta find white

[bitter turtle]

but keep in mind i was sitting in the middle of shotgun shells flying across my screen

[serene bough]

exploits just explained it to me

[bitter turtle]

o

[serene sage]

green circle 🤔 honestly i didn't see shit

i see 5 dots

[bitter turtle]

yes

[serene bough]

^

[serene sage]

and 2 thin circkles

[bitter turtle]

if you select the dots it has a color

idk i saw no white

only green or red

but maybe i was blind

[tall torrent]

Me needing to reload plasma when 6 shotgunners jump into the arena:

[serene bough]

it'll flash white when you hover over it

[sleek garden]

I tried this and got gunned down instantly

[serene bough]

for the first second

[bitter turtle]

use low profile subnode

[sleek garden]

i was lol

[bitter turtle]

then how are you getting gunned down

they are literally ignoring you

[sleek garden]

i used it to run ahead of my team thinking i could shut down all the guys

[serene sage]

also ammo is a bit tight ngl

[tall torrent]

Use hunter’s resolve
50% TDR is huge

[sleek garden]

but they didnt ignore me

[hearty panther]

oh does it turn green after a moment longer

cause yeah i was just pressing on white

[bitter turtle]

oh

[sleek garden]

idk why they didnt

[hearty panther]

and it worked

[serene sage]

i actually ran out once

[bitter turtle]

okay then yeah

[sleek garden]

also it isnt guaranteed

[bitter turtle]

find green or white or whatever

[tall torrent]

Oh for sure I was almost out by the end

[sleek garden]

your threat level just goes down

[bitter turtle]

dont rely on it in the sense that you think you are invulnerable

[tall torrent]

Of course hab dreyko spawns the fucking ammo crate in escape

[sleek garden]

didnt stop the reaper from force pushing me into the wall

[bitter turtle]

always be prepared to fight back, push, dodge, etc

this is why overwatch is important

if you use it offensively

[serene sage]

5s is a little brutal imo, maybe 2.5s?

[bitter turtle]

you want a charge to gtfo back to the team if you pushed too far in

and shtf

[tall torrent]

I think 3~4s CD survivalist should be an okay middle ground

[hearty panther]

ima be real i am still ending most games with anywhere from 50 to 100% of my ammo back if there's a survivalist vet on the team

[tall torrent]

5s was ok tho because

[hearty panther]

so im not really seeing any need

[tall torrent]

The recon guy

[bitter turtle]

idk

[tall torrent]

Had 3 ammo bag pickups

[bitter turtle]

this was 4 vets and i still didnt pick up much ammo

and never ran out

[serene sage]

I have to melee a lot more
and you do run out fighting bosses

[tall torrent]

Yea u had a Helbore of all things

[bitter turtle]

no

[last parcel]

amateur

[bitter turtle]

i was using laspistol

[tall torrent]

Oh nvm

[serene sage]

actually I think it's the bosses that will be the issue for ammo

[bitter turtle]

it was laspis/knife

[hearty panther]

unless your gun is a dedicated monster masher you really shouldnt be wasting ammo on them

[serene sage]

maybe we can't magdump bosses anymore, making slug the most dangerous boss of the game

[fresh mango]

i was wondering how long it would take for someone to see it lmao

[serene sage]

my brother I'm the perma Bolter dude 😭

I should be shooting bosses

[hearty panther]

on like a bon i would, behind it

[bitter turtle]

best way to beat sxlug

[hearty panther]

otherwise not really unless we're just getting demolished

[bitter turtle]

stealth

go be hind it

melee while team distracts

jk

[hearty panther]

in which case there are other problems

[tall torrent]

I don’t think fox ever got a clear shot on either of the BoN’s back

[hearty panther]

they really are frustrating at times

there's just

[quick seal]

hi

[hearty panther]

like eight actual places with room to fight them solo

[serene sage]

nope lol

[last parcel]

hello again

[bitter turtle]

they were in pretty bad spoots terrain wise

especially the second one

LOL

[serene sage]

actually that's a lie
i got a whole mag at the very end

[bitter turtle]

i managed to squeeze my ass through it and the door frame to shoot from behind

[tall torrent]

Knife was fun tho no

[bitter turtle]

i mean

i always liked knife

[quick seal]

i'm level 12 now
I just unlocked voice of command
2 more levels until boltgun

[bitter turtle]

i just never really gave mk6 a shot

honestly

i cant tell if bleed was doing anything

[quick seal]

4 more levels until plasma

[bitter turtle]

the total bleed kills is relatively low

well

it was a quarterof the kills

er

a fifth*

[tall torrent]

Also accept friend req @serene sage @bitter turtle

In game

Imma go now GG

[bitter turtle]

i accepted

and o/

[tall torrent]

one last thing
I got the Moebian 6th pants
this looks nice

[serene sage]

slightly off topic but I need an adult

to tell me

I don't need to spend hundreds of dollars on another PC

😭

[timid otter]

What is your current pc?

[serene sage]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/802615525141643265/1081207498872213554/RDT_20230303_0129045364096707963395448.jpg?ex=662bacf3&is=661937f3&hm=a0667f3ec061eb7244602d0139fb266f8985c80bd2ae1f1ba08d74268c9e4a7b&=&format=webp&width=810&height=608

wait no that's not mine

that's the one I want

[timid otter]

Look at that its small

[last parcel]

bro got the mailbox pc

[serene sage]

okay she didn't say that, not what she said

[quick seal]

you need to spend hundreds of dollars on microtransactions 💯

[bitter turtle]

just wait another 5 years

[quick seal]

your setup looks better than anything i own

[bitter turtle]

so you can get an even beterer one

also

this is a knife

https://i.gyazo.com/3cd5284b482246519cbbc4ad0fc60614.jpg

thanks weapon custom mod

[tame lodge]

Lmao

[rigid pilot]

Humie fist weapon

[serene sage]

Scuffed pic but this is mine

Kb and controller for scale

[timid otter]

Small computer

[serene sage]

the good ol pay more for less builds

[hearty panther]

why are your keys made of marshmallow

[rigid pilot]

Tenkeyless

[somber axle]

man this is the third quickplay squad in a row that folded as soon as crushers appeared

help

[bitter turtle]

reduce their hp to zero to kill them

[serene sage]

this thing?

cause it's cute, thanks for looking

last pic i promise

[somber axle]

yeah but trying to solo run high intensity shock trooper gauntlet damnation is rough man

[bitter turtle]

I like it

I always wanted something like that to be honest

[balmy dune]

Is there a secret to finding specific weapon blesses? Been trying to nab flechette and manstopper 😭

[bitter turtle]

I hate the edgy gamer black and LED lights look

[bitter turtle]

uh

there actually is a secret for those two

they only exist as Tier 2s

so you need to make a new character

or hope brunt has them in shope

you cant roll tier 2 blessings at level 30

[balmy dune]

Oh, wow!

I had no idea, that's really helpful

[serene sage]

yeah it sucks

I just kinda camped brunt shop

do you have Armoury Exchange addon?

[balmy dune]

Guess I could try leveling a zealot and beef up some blue shomtguns

I don't think so

[serene sage]

that works!

[hearty panther]

it is cute

i just buy the cheapest piece of shit i can get

wear it out over 2-3 years

[timid otter]

Is that a velka 3?

[hearty panther]

toss it and buy a new one

[serene sage]

so basically it's a web extension (dont worry nothing nefarious) that lets you look at brunt shop while not opening the game
you can set up custom parameter that will only show up when the blessings you want are in stock

[balmy dune]

Oh it's like a browser extension? Huh. I'll check it out

[serene sage]

yeah it's not that hard to setup, and you do need to manually check once in a while, but it does help! gl

[serene sage]

no velka 3 is literally 1/4 the size of that PC
that's an NR200

like velka is wildly small

[timid otter]

Its hard to tell

[serene sage]

all good! SFF PC are really niche anyway

but I love them

[balmy dune]

The reason why I asked because I saw a vet with a lawbringer that had manstopper and scattershot just absolutely cleaning rooms

made me jealous

[serene sage]

yeah that's a good combo

pretty fun too

I hope you find it friend ❤️

[hollow ibex]

that's just a poor man's kanty sadly

esp after scattershot bug got fixed

[balmy dune]

what do you put on the kanty? Same thing?

[bitter turtle]

what changed on scattershot?

[serene sage]

I think scatter used to count the target hit and the ones behind it as well?

Now I would assume it actually just counts target hit

[hollow ibex]

no respite... and something else, i forget, check the pins

[tall torrent]

If 5 dudes lined up and u hit 1 (front), it counts all 5 and gives full stacks

Now it counts only the front that got hit

[tame lodge]

Full bore?

[tall torrent]

So if they don’t get hit, they don’t contribute to stacks

[bitter turtle]

still works with kant though right?

er

ignor ethat quote

i was gonna say

no respite/scattershot imo

but i was gonna say

still works with kant special right? scattershot i mean

https://i.gyazo.com/11711f3c9d1950db3e4c11f891f9f932.png

i really wanted flechette kant meme to work

but it sucks

[balmy dune]

I figure because you can get things to one shot hordes already, they don't need to bleed

But still, man-stopper rocks

well, it looks like it does

[bitter turtle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1200639773694492672/wtf.webm?ex=662c6d6c&is=6619f86c&hm=83209427db03a05c761d8a2b6e40ccb5ed397be1ba3c91981575e08d56796152&

[balmy dune]

WHAT?

It was working with knives?

Or still is, even

[hollow ibex]

how old is that, thought they fixed it too

[bitter turtle]

its old

lel

idk if its fixed

did they?

i havent played in a while tbh

lemme test it

[hollow ibex]

it should be in the notes

in the last last patch

when they also fixed scattershot iirc

could be wrong tho

[bitter turtle]

:(

no fun allowed apparently

[hollow ibex]

yeah

[bitter turtle]

the combo isnt even that good

[hollow ibex]

yeah it looks op in the psych

but in real games...

[bitter turtle]

surely

ragers line up in perfectly straight lines

always

it still works(？）

let me test it more

yeah

it sitll works

https://i.gyazo.com/65fc8c24821d061180b7dcce1a46231e.jpg

[serene sage]

so how is sharpshoot vet going to hang with the ammo nerf

🤔

[bitter turtle]

i honestly think its fine

i havent had any problems yet

ive noticed the nerf but havent gone "oh no my bullets"

and we made iot through that round with 4x vets and one of them was using a recon

idk about you but i was never low and i picked up very little relatively

not to mention the final holdout was extra long since nobody knew how to do the minigame lel

good thing we had an infiltrate vet 😉

[tame lodge]

They are hitting their shots and probably have high eco weapons

[midnight totem]

Anyway! Who's ready for new slop tomorrow!

[somber axle]

I forgot how good Helbores feel

[hearty panther]

i get the opposite effect

i remember how awesome it feels to shoot

but forget how terrible it is to draw

like logically i know it has a longer draw time, but it isnt until im using it in a match that i realize how hefty this bitch is

[somber axle]

just never swap to melee

[last parcel]

why swap to melee when it’s already a melee

[midnight totem]

alright, stop being a sneaky cat

[tame lodge]

My sorry ass with the Mk3

[last parcel]

ok then just dodge

[tame lodge]

Yes sir!

Ma'am?

Yes regardless

[hollow ibex]

thanks for checking, ig it was just scattershot that got fixed

[tall torrent]

Unironically I think if u has grenade regen for smokes that last part would have been way easier since half the elite spawns were shotgunners & gunners

Maybe more than half

[bitter turtle]

yes

for sure

i was acutally thinking that at the time

like

[somber axle]

tbh I was using the Mk3 and finally forced a win through quickplay damnation pugs LMFAO

[bitter turtle]

"holy shit i wish i had grenade regen rn" LOL

[somber axle]

one tapping crushers is just too good because then teams stop being scared and return to fighting

[bitter turtle]

its just hard to squeeze in build

idk what i would drop from the tree is howed you

[somber axle]

I still had a weird moment where 2 were dead and one was in a net but it was ok

[bitter turtle]

maybe drop duck and dive?

feels kinda bad thougth

[grand perch]

why am i being pinged for a message from a month ago 😄

[bitter turtle]

since its good for both laspis and knife

[grand perch]

twice

[tame lodge]

[tall torrent]

Unironically I think u can drop duck & dive and deadshot
If u run knife and laspistol with ghost, reciprocity is up enough of the time for crit farming

[tall torrent]

Discord was being weird sorry

[last parcel]

reciprocate my nuts lmao

[bitter turtle]

maybe ill try no duck and dive

[tall torrent]

At the very least I don’t think u need deadshot

[bitter turtle]

i only need to drop 1

for demo team

and oh

[tall torrent]

Duck & dive is nice for both

[bitter turtle]

you think no deadshot?

ig i could yeah

tbh i played deadshotless laspistol for a while anyway

[tall torrent]

Reciprocity with knife is actually not hard to stay up

[bitter turtle]

i didnt think it was that necessary

[somber axle]

funny enough I needed the 10% rending node to consistently push Crusher 1HKOs on top of 15% elite, Focus Target, Focused Fire (to 8 stacks), 20% Ogryn, 30% Weak Spot, Exe Stance, Kill Zone and Long Shot

but I'm one tapping every Crusher I see now

it might be just too low on stopping power to skip the 10% rending

like 1-2%

because Crushers will sometimes survive with the tiniest sliver of HP without the 10% rending

[tall torrent]

I’m also curious how much shock trooper actually helped

Ik u took basically no ammo

[bitter turtle]

im also not sure

but im not ready to drop it since i used to run surv

and no shocktrooper

i took only 3 smalls, 1 large, and 1 crate refill

maybe ill try with no shocktrooper and see how i feel

[grim widget]

recon lasgun still blow?

[tame lodge]

Not with a very specific build

[bitter turtle]

absolutely nothing changed about it so

[tall torrent]

Try demo team over deadshot, should be fine

[crude fiber]

If you ever get another good rolled mk3 you could try carapace and elite dam perks together

[somber axle]

yes and no
it sucks unless you're insane like me and run everything under the sun to make a Recon Mk VId ok but I've also heard Recon Mk VIIa is good too

[bitter turtle]

yeah ill try that first

with no deadshot

[somber axle]

that's a good idea

[crude fiber]

mk3 probably doesnt need unyielding for reaper 1 shots. might need it for new tankier bulwarks tho

[tall torrent]

Also for bleed, it’s more just extra dmg spread in horde since knife has shit cleave distribution

Neither of us had a lot of bleed kills but it def helped with melee kills

[last parcel]

Crit + 5 stacks of Focus target or just a plain Executioner's Stance headshot is enough for Reapers

[tall torrent]

It’s better if we don’t have high bleed kills tbh since they have less/no toughness gain

[bitter turtle]

that's fair

ig its just hard to quantify for me

how much exactly its doing

[tall torrent]

Like, it’s pretty normal if u hit cleave 3, 1 die instantly and 2 bleed a bit, then your 2nd melee hit kills them

Which is gonna count as 3 melee kills and 0 bleed kills

[bitter turtle]

ya I get that

[hollow ibex]

Scavenger nerf made it even worse

[bitter turtle]

well

noit necessarily

it depended half on surv and half on shocktrooper

so in a way

it was less affected than something like shredder autopistol

[rare bough]

What if, instead of the scavenger aura (current or pre-nerf) They change it to where, if you have that aura selected you collect extra ammo from ammo pickups, and your teammates also get some spare ammo from your ammo pickups 🤔

[tame lodge]

Well I did play tons of support on Battlefield

[tall torrent]

This gives people more reason to hog ammo since they’d have justification as “but my team also gets ammo”

And it’d still be the most useful aura so talent choices wouldn’t change much

[rare bough]

lol you're right about the ammo hog thing actually ha

[crude fiber]

oh damn i didnt evn think about shredder pistol. that thing must be practically unusable unless your the only person shooting the whole mission

[timid otter]

Veterans cant catch a break

[crude fiber]

could make it so the person picking up the pack gets the full amount and anyone in coherency would get half if someones using scavenger

[last parcel]

here's some shittily formatted data nobody asked for

[somber axle]

you are my favourite person in this discord

thank you

[last parcel]

np

[junior needle]

Yes, nothing has changed and they're worse than before due to being a poor performer baseline and being hit by the surv nerf.

You need a lot of juice from the talent tree push the not egregiously bad ones into being somewhat acceptably performing

[junior needle]

Even with a "very specific build" it's still trying to draw blood from a stone to compensate for how poor they are on a baseline

[winter grove]

Remind me, +1 bleed stack talent is for mercy killer right?

[junior needle]

yes

Little reason to take it otherwise

[winter grove]

So is mercy killer + uncanny a good combo on mk3 knife?

[junior needle]

It's an option. There's other choices that perform well that don't require a talent tax

Like precog and riposte

[winter grove]

I am going stealth it's kinda no brainer

Close and Kill has either that talent or weapon swap dmg

[junior needle]

Agile engagement is in that same row

It's quite good

5s on 25% damage boost to the weapon you're switching to

Just for getting a kill

[winter grove]

Didn't actually find it all that useful personally

Maybe just me

[junior needle]

If you aren't regularly switching (or getting breakpoints from that weapon) it'll not seem as impressive

Extremely good for revolver

Or plasma

[winter grove]

I am not gonna regularly switch if I am grabbing revolver and knife

I think

[unreal bone]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-orange-cat-orange-cats-cat-weird-gif-17010424884748616697

[junior needle]

It's very good for revolver breakpoints

[unreal bone]

Me when my teammates won't let off of the shift key for 0.1 nanosecond (They think they'll die irl if they stop sprinting to actually loot in the mission)

[junior needle]

Especially with WS

[winter grove]

I'll consider it, I think I've actually got precog 4 unlocked

[junior needle]

Precog is generally the sweatier, less forgiving option

[winter grove]

That being said I do always pick it over bleed talent because yeah

[junior needle]

Due to the 2s duration

I like riposte personally

But precog can give you breakpoints you wouldn't otherwise have

[winter grove]

I do wanna try taxe with stealth WS

[junior needle]

Taxes aren't doing good right now

[winter grove]

I know that, just haven't actually used one

Just threw this on basing off my previous stealth vet
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bd51d34-807d-4f7f-9fcc-c639a785d299/stealth-taxes-invisible-irs

[junior needle]

the 4 is the only one that would potentially be worth taking over another weapon

[winter grove]

Oh yeah, I noticed 4 is better

[junior needle]

I'd go shred/headtaker instead of brutal

It can't hit one shot breakpoints on bruisers

with lights

[winter grove]

Oh shit fr?

[junior needle]

On god

It's not bussin

[bitter turtle]

uh

excuse me

[winter grove]

Okay

Thanks for saying that

[bitter turtle]

bloodletter III -> bloodletter IV????

hello????

[midnight totem]

smoke grenade penance done

[junior needle]

I refuse to use bloodletter

Or the chainsword active if I can avoid it

[midnight totem]

why

[tall torrent]

Zarona really wants 30% weakspot + 25% ammo + 15% elite dmg

[winter grove]

Well shit

[junior needle]

It pales in comparison to the true bleeding weapon

[midnight totem]

smoke grenades, and infiltrate suppress done in the same mission, along with weeklies, hell yeah

[somber axle]

nice

[winter grove]

What alternative could I grab instead then?

[thorn lark]

did you have to go in and out of stealth constantly?

[winter grove]

Because I am probably not hitting those talents

[midnight totem]

me?

[thorn lark]

yes

[midnight totem]

define constantly

[junior needle]

infiltrate doesn't let you stealth every 8s~ or so

Cooldown is way longer than shroud

And vet doesn't have as consistent cdr for it

[winter grove]

45 or 60

[midnight totem]

I'm in a bad spot and about to draw too much aggro? stealth. I see a line of shooters and gunners getting ready to unload, stealth up to them. My toughness is broken and I need a restore? Stealth.

[bitter turtle]

infiltrate gud

[winter grove]

Stealth training do your thing

[bitter turtle]

overwatch helps a lot

2 charge

and use cdr curio

-8 seconds

[midnight totem]

I have a zealot who's really bad and needs to learn how to melee?

stealth

[thorn lark]

maybe take 2 points from regen nades and use 1 for demo team

[quick seal]

does smoke really not do anything

[thorn lark]

and well, use a taxe 7 or 2... 4 is not that good sadly

[winter grove]

You stand in smoke and suddenly your invincible to shooters it's really that simple

[winter grove]

How come?

[thorn lark]

i meant, as often as you could

[midnight totem]

Nah

don't go willy nilly with it, unless you have two charges

stealth is powerful, but it has a longer cdr then shout

[quick seal]

I'm using smoke and apparently it's for like, repositioning and creating a screen against incoming fire so you can close the gap and use melee or something.
But every time I toss the smoke grenade, it

1. takes too long to actually deploy the smoke
2. sometimes enemies still shoot through it
3. Sometimes I see enemies get stunned? Like they claw at their eyes and then 2 seconds later they're fine
   I wish smoke did more. Like put out fires or something. IDK I just unlocked smoke grenade and sharing my opinion. I might go to krak after I finish the penance, though. Though I do like carrying 3 grenades at a time

[midnight totem]

shout is king for keeping you and your team alive, but a good stealth play in the right situation can do more

[thorn lark]

on the lights, the dmg profile is not in favor of the 4

and the mk2 and mk7 have nice pa + heavy combo

especially the mk2: it's sweeping heavies that you just spam

[pallid jetty]

this should become a meme

[thorn lark]

?

[pallid jetty]

lond red arrows are funi

very very long

[soft solstice]

smokes did get buffed a few patches ago to have a stagger effects when active so that explains the third part. I don't know if you used them since the patch drop but they feel like they actually work now in general, if you throw it at your feet, at an enemy, or between the both of you, it does a good job at stopping people from shooting

[winter grove]

I see

[junior needle]

VOC does a much better job of keeping your team alive and out of dire straights to begin with

Stealth lets you have ebin clutch moments after your team dies

[thorn lark]

voc lets you crutch before your team dies

stealth lets you clutch after your team dies

[winter grove]

Wait, what if I use some alternative gun to revolver?

[thorn lark]

in the grand scheme of things 10% rending is not that impactful

[soft solstice]

I feel liek the mk4 tac axe is the best mostly because spamming the lights gives you a consistent combo while when I use the other ones, after you do the light combo, you have to wait for the animation to reset before you can swing again, while the mk4 can just keep swinging and swinging

[junior needle]

It is impactful, but it depends on the circumstance. With handcannon you it won't really help you except on possibly crushers.

[quick seal]

ah thats crazy to think that smokes were worse before lol. They still kind of suck now . But I like having utility grenades because I don't really need grenades to kill because my guns can do that faster, usually. Anyways yeah I didn't use them before the patch sinc eI just started playing :-P I just unlocked the smoke so I wanted to share my opinion on that

[junior needle]

It'll turn into 2.5% damage

[thorn lark]

if you ads a lot, immunity to suppression ios very nice, if not don't take it

but 30% wp dmg on melee and range + more ammo + 15% elites

that's good

on almost every gun

[tall torrent]

I prob wouldn’t go with rending strikes

[junior needle]

It's the best because the alternatives are a bad rashad (mk2 taxe) or a bad mk taxe (mk7 taxe)

[thorn lark]

you take ogryn dmg then

[winter grove]

So the choice really is between mk2 and mk4 taxe

[soft solstice]

immunity to suppression is still good in general, I had a game earlier where I died to a gunner on a elevated platform shooting me and just being completely unable to dodge away from them or anything while my teammates just ignored them until after i went down

[tall torrent]

Suppression immunity is dependant on the weapon u pick

[junior needle]

If you wanted crusher breakpoints on the revolver specifically then yes

[thorn lark]

that's not really true lol

[tall torrent]

Some weapons have built in suppression immunity

[soft solstice]

i don't really feel a difference between the other taxes mostly because the animation reset thing is just so noticable to me

[junior needle]

It's unfortunately very true currently, the mk2 taxe functions like a more particular rashad that just isn't as good

[winter grove]

I can swap it, sure

[junior needle]

And the mk7 is just a worse mk2

Because you have to weave heavy/light and that means half your attacks won't be able to 1hko bruisers for brutal

[thorn lark]

that's not the majority, you have the shotguns and the plasma and ?

[bitter turtle]

i unironically think stealth is better for carrying tbh

[tall torrent]

Helbore, Laspistol

[soft solstice]

I sort of just treat the tactical axes like heavy combat knives, good mobility, fast swings with good headshot profiles, decent but not as good crits, and a special attack that's actually usable

[tall torrent]

Braced autoguns also just don’t care about suppression in general

[junior needle]

mk4 actually has an application where you'd feasibly want to take it over another weapon

[thorn lark]

you don't really ads with them

[gloomy pollen]

brrrrrrrr

[soft solstice]

you spam lightrs for trash and heavies for big stuff, but sometimes you can just go screw it and spam lights on specials/elites because it makes the brain feel good

[junior needle]

You don't want to use heavies for carapace btw

[thorn lark]

assuming you take brutal momentum

[tame lodge]

Accuracy through volume of fire, let it roar

[thorn lark]

necause you can also just go shred + ht

[junior needle]

The lights do basically the same damage as the heavies for it

[bitter turtle]

well

you want to use a heavy out of ctw on zealot for taxe4

[frank ether]

I ads a lot, waste of a point for most guns

[junior needle]

On the two you want to go brutal/ht because it can actually hit bruiser breakpoints, on a 4 you want ht/shred

[bitter turtle]

frankly i would only use a taxe on zealot tbh

[thorn lark]

not on the revolver or the bolter, but that's what i use mostly

[junior needle]

A brutal 2 will have 5s faster clear speed on 20 scab bruisers compared to a headtaker/shred 4

[thorn lark]

ah yeah, i agree with that

[tall torrent]

Again, it’s very dependant on the weapons u pick

[junior needle]

But the 4 is just much more pleasant to use and has a niche that isn't done objectively better by another weapon

[frank ether]

suppression is a really small part of the game, I play bolter or revolver fine without it

[thorn lark]

it's not a must pick but ruffian was using a revolver

[soft solstice]

i run taxe act on vet when I want ot switch off from the original s hovel or power sword. One of the newer shovels do have good lights for horde clear but I like still having the special be an option for staggering, it's fun to do for mutants and ogryn stunlocks

[frank ether]

its the hitstun thats annoying but determined does not prevent that

[tall torrent]

Revolver can live without it, u just have to play around that

Boltgun tho, pretty useful

[junior needle]

Taxes (or at least the 4) is a better fit for zealot currently

imo

[thorn lark]

i play bolter zealot and psyker revolver, it is way more comfy with suppression immunity

[junior needle]

You could consider it a knife sidegrade due to its higher possible base crit

[frank ether]

zealot/psyker doesn't even have to ads the bolter

like literally no need

[soft solstice]

I've been a knife zealot since day 1 but I grew to appreciate the thunder hammer once I figured out the swing pattern for it, those are pretty much the only thing I ever run

[junior needle]

xv chainsword is quite good if you don't mind poor carapace performance

[tame lodge]

There's a video of a zealot trying to shoot a gunner with the bolter

[frank ether]

vet has to ads because your crit talent is conditional on aiming down sights

[soft solstice]

yeah, I pretty much consider it a version of the knife that's better running outside of zealot/melee veteran

[thorn lark]

it's more a controlled hipfire with dance of death

[tall torrent]

Psyker can’t even use Boltgun

[winter grove]

Uh huh

[thorn lark]

but try to snipe a sniper

[frank ether]

Really? Lmao

[thorn lark]

man i wish

[bitter turtle]

look at their noodle arms

[frank ether]

I was just getting excited to whip out boltgun gunker

[tall torrent]

Or chainaxe

[thorn lark]

or shotguns

[bitter turtle]

you think a psyker can hold a bolter

[soft solstice]

on my VOC focus target build, i'd never run the knife, but weapon specialist with all the crit stuff? that's the good stuff

[thorn lark]

well, it could during the beta

[frank ether]

I guess I'll do agri revolver instead

[hollow ibex]

just run knife on everything 🙂

[soft solstice]

i remember when psykers could use shotguns

[junior needle]

agri bad

[tall torrent]

A psyker with boltgun is funny because I think they’d just suspend it midair and use telekinesis to shoot it with zero recoil

[frank ether]

I'm well aware

[junior needle]

[bitter turtle]

and no reload because they just psykinetically create more bullets

why even have a gun

[tame lodge]

That goes kinda hard

[bitter turtle]

just launch the bullets directly with your mind

wait that' sjust assail

[soft solstice]

i actually don't run the knife on veteran that much but I think that's mostly because I love the standard shovel so much, it's probably my favorite melee to use

[winter grove]

So like this?

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bd51d34-807d-4f7f-9fcc-c639a785d299/stealth-taxes-invisible-irs

[thorn lark]

on vet? where did you get the numbers? @short vapor?

[bitter turtle]

idk

[bitter turtle]

stealth without overwatch seems bad to me

but that'sjust me

[junior needle]

I did it on a talentless test, myself. One sec

[frank ether]

its better than adsing by a long shot

dance of death is a busted talent

[junior needle]

https://imgur.com/a/ANrK0Q9

[soft solstice]

overwatch I think can make a difference but if I needed to move ap oint else where in my build, I feel like that'd be the first choice, but that depends a lot on how you use it

[winter grove]

Not a fan of overwatch

[frank ether]

both infil and exe are tax city

at least infil leads down to some really strong talents

[thorn lark]

you hipfire maybe 90% of the time, but the last 10% when you cannot use your immune to suppression knife? it's parkinson

[soft solstice]

it's been a good while since I ran it too but I'd probably take low profile over the toughness damage resistance, and the damage bonus if you can afford it, but I did also run a raking fire shredder too

[junior needle]

Oh wait, this wasn't talentless. It was a gimped talent setup with just enough juice to hit bruiser 1hko on 2. Just to be totally up front.

[bitter turtle]

overwatch means a lot more usages

[soft solstice]

I found low profile to be very consistent for keeping enemies from hitting you which is better than resistance

[bitter turtle]

because you're never "wasting" cd refresh

[winter grove]

Not a fan

[bitter turtle]

also you can get value otu of the cdr curios

well

[frank ether]

what bolter needs isnt sup imm, what it needs is a fix to its ads misalignment. Fatshark needs to get it together

[dusty nacelle]

it took me like 10 seconds to realize u weren't talking about the game overwatch

[bitter turtle]

if you dont want to run it, ig its fine as is

the tree I mean

should be able to 2tap crusher

frankly

[soft solstice]

but that assumes you're using it more than just to keep from being off cooldown. I pretty much always saved my stealth as a panic button since using it to go in and flank can get dicy, and in which case VOC is better at that panic button job

[bitter turtle]

i would not use krak

unless you are uh

trying to do the pnance

i mean neither weapon you're using has trouble against carapace lol

[winter grove]

Hm

[bitter turtle]

smoke would be better and save you a point

or shredder is still best but requires another point drop somewhere

[thorn lark]

have you tried to crouch and strafe left and right (while adsing) with a bolter? don't hate me 😄

[bitter turtle]

if you run smoke, you can sstick the extra pt in demo team for some nade regen

[soft solstice]

demostockpile is a bit out of the way for you but playing vet without any grenade regen talent feels so weird to me

[bitter turtle]

demo team is fine enough

[frank ether]

I don't crouch, thats for tinyangrycrab

[bitter turtle]

stockpile is best

but

[soft solstice]

demo team would be fine enough

[tall torrent]

He should get on it as early as possible because the progress is shit

[bitter turtle]

2 points is annoying

ya i mean

if you're trying to do penance by all means

[soft solstice]

yeah, it'll still work way better than having no passive regen

[bitter turtle]

i just mean as an actual build

[thorn lark]

crouching is fine but moving while crouching...

[bitter turtle]

krak is weird when you have 2 weapons that have way sto kill carapace

already

[winter grove]

Oh it's not for penance

I could grab smokes

[frank ether]

why would you ever want to crouch to begin with

outside of sliding

[winter grove]

Recoil

[frank ether]

really?

[bitter turtle]

recoil reduction for ciag

[soft solstice]

krak would be a free revolver shot every once and a while. Shredder is always good but I feel like they can handle that fine

[frank ether]

yall are funny peeps

I think I only ever crouch with braced weapons

I guess hipfiring bolter crouching could be legit there aswell

[soft solstice]

i crouch mostly to not block bullets from people shooting behind me and also just hiding in cover

[thorn lark]

it was bugged for a while with iag

[tame lodge]

I engulfed 2 gunners in smoke and they kept shooting, a lot of things was happening but I might think that smokes are bugged

Or at least inconsistent

Keep an eye out on that

[winter grove]

Kraks aren't really needed for me

[soft solstice]

enemies in the smoke have reduced vision rather than being unable to see outside the smoke at all but I have no idea how reduced that vision is

[frank ether]

krak would be god awful without grenade regen

[tame lodge]

They should stop shooting

[winter grove]

Drop smoke into horde

Start killing

[soft solstice]

at least with smokes, you end up using them the least out of all the grenades so that's almost sort of fine, and you get 3 of them by default so decent econ from picking up greandes on the map

[tame lodge]

Unless you have regen and spam them like me

[soft solstice]

also kraks do still have a good use for bosses, enough health for the damage to not get wasted, and a free guaranteed stagger

[tame lodge]

I'm responsible for the Vent purge modifier

[soft solstice]

so looking at a big breakdown thing, gunners/reapers inside the smoke will still have the behavior where they'll keep shooting at player's last known location, where before they would do that even if the smoke was blocking their LOS

[tame lodge]

And then smoke got buffed and made gunners and reapers stop shooting

[soft solstice]

so for them, the ideal way to use smokes should be to thrown it between the both of you or on yourself, and if you do throw it on them than it'd be to move out of the way so they end up shooting at nothing

[tame lodge]

While also protecting you from snipers

[rigid pilot]

Just throw them at the first group of gunners so the ones behind that first group don't also shoot you, repeat until there are no more shooters

[thorn lark]

if only smoke nades could buff you as well

[tall torrent]

(Also smoke is a godsend for hab dreyko final event)

[rigid pilot]

Make darktide vermintide2 again

[thorn lark]

[winter grove]

So like this
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bd51d34-807d-4f7f-9fcc-c639a785d299/stealth-taxes-invisible-irs

[thorn lark]

my favorite game in dt is dosing other people with stimms

[soft solstice]

I pretty much never use my damage or speed stims on myself but I'm more than happy to use on teammates

[thorn lark]

i would use that build

[thorn lark]

dosing a stubber or a psyker with red is always a pleasure

(or blue if red is not available)

[winter grove]

Great alright

[soft solstice]

maybe I should get infiltrate a try again, I still have that nice raking fire shredder, and I do remember slapping a stripped down 4 on a infantry auto and rushing gunners

[tall torrent]

Dmg stim is by far my least fav tbh

[thorn lark]

blue is excellent on bolter too

[tall torrent]

Healing aside
Cooldown > speed > dmg (at least for what I play)

[thorn lark]

because reload speeeeeeed

[rigid pilot]

Dmg gives rending

[thorn lark]

especially on zealot

[rigid pilot]

Start shooting crushers

[tall torrent]

Yea for weapons that need it, it’s alr

[thorn lark]

you use chastise for that

[winter grove]

Cooldown?

[tall torrent]

But I play knife/plasma so it’s basically never useful for me

[thorn lark]

so chastise + blue is noice

[soft solstice]

For the type of ults I run I love cooldown reduction stim

[rigid pilot]

Rending for your bleed grenades I guess

[tall torrent]

Allows u to solo stunlock chaos spawn with VoC + nades

[thorn lark]

yes

[rigid pilot]

Shout and cdr stim lol

[tall torrent]

Uncanny IV

[winter grove]

So just to clarify

[soft solstice]

Spamming shouts, shields, and charges is nice

[winter grove]

Taxe 4

Light for horde
Heavy for single target

[rigid pilot]

Ah I forgor

[soft solstice]

Pretty much

[rigid pilot]

Knife gaming

[thorn lark]

don't use heavy on carapace

[winter grove]

👍

[junior needle]

iirc the dps boost to non-carapace single target from heavies is very little if any

[thorn lark]

lights

[junior needle]

So just light spam for everything basically

[rigid pilot]

Do taxes share the same dumb heavy maniac ADM as caxes

[thorn lark]

heavies

[thorn lark]

no

[thorn lark]

use the keepswinging automod to prevent rsi tho

[rigid pilot]

Wow actually more damage vs maniac if you use heavy 🤯

[junior needle]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[thorn lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1078922307394879508.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[winter grove]

Wait so taxe 4 is basically

Spam light

[thorn lark]

i need to make the perfect decapitator rashad

don't forget to use special to stunlock

[tall torrent]

Decapitator needs a rework srsly

[junior needle]

That's what I said

[thorn lark]

i know

[junior needle]

I can test it again with my heavy macro

[thorn lark]

iirc there is no combo with the special right?

[junior needle]

For taxe?

[winter grove]

Just wanted to confirm

[thorn lark]

yeah

[junior needle]

The special does dog damage so no reason to use it really

[thorn lark]

stagger

[tall torrent]

It has some chain stuff with light atks

[junior needle]

It can kinda stagger things sometimes but uh

[rigid pilot]

Looks cool tho

[junior needle]

Inconsistent on repeated hits

[thorn lark]

nah mate it staggers a charging mutie

and a rager too

[rigid pilot]

On headshot?

[tall torrent]

It force staggers every non-boss enemy on weakspot hit

[thorn lark]

yes

[junior needle]

Not reapers it seems

But it will muties

Very strange

[thorn lark]

are reaper that problematic that you want to stagger them hmm

[junior needle]

Maulers weren't staggered as well

Just flinched a little

[frank ether]

reapers are a joke

[junior needle]

This is true

[thorn lark]

i wonder if you can stagger a bulwark through the shield

[tall torrent]

No

[junior needle]

But I have to hit people with the 🤓

[thorn lark]

there's broken stuff with force sword and bullwarks rn

[frank ether]

once you go past wheelchair gaming most ranged mobs become a joke and it takes like 500 shooters spread out to threaten you at any capacity

[tall torrent]

They nerfed veteran’s ability to stagger bulwarks this update

[frank ether]

but reapers especially so

[tall torrent]

All 3 other classes still same ability to stagger bulwarks tho

[tall torrent]

Zealot crusher still charge light to open

[tall torrent]

Oh wait hmm

[thorn lark]

WUT

WUUUUT

[tall torrent]

This is the new light stagger they added?

[thorn lark]

sorry wrond reply

[old quail]

the light doesnt stagger on every cleave target now

[frank ether]

whuh

[old quail]

which is sad

[junior needle]

that's all weapon special

[thorn lark]

TAXE META GAMING CONFIRMED

[old quail]

think its only the first target on light special

[thorn lark]

PSWORD IS DEAD

[tall torrent]

I’d still consider it to be top 3 zealot melee personally

[junior needle]

The hitbox is getting around the shield somehow

Doesn't seem to happen on the antax

[old quail]

yeah its not significantly worsened by the change

[tame lodge]

Obscurus and Deimos, the special opens Bulwark if you hit the shield

[junior needle]

oh wait nvm

I got it to work on the antax

[winter grove]

Ayo?

[thorn lark]

the force push too apparently

[thorn lark]

antax special block a charging mutie too

apparently rashad can do it was well, except i have failed every time so i just dodge now

[tame lodge]

Probably removing the invisible shield allowed the weakspot hit to come through

Weird

[junior needle]

Way more inconsistent with the antax special, only went through the shield once and with way more hits

[thorn lark]

i will be playing taxes tonight i think

[winter grove]

Oh did my stupid idea become not so stupid idea suddenly?

[thorn lark]

taxes are not the best but they have a solid melange of crits, stagger and mobility

[winter grove]

What would be the worst melee tho

[thorn lark]

if you can play around with them it's totally viable

[thorn lark]

power maul?

[winter grove]

Ok my game suddenly decided to start crashing

[bitter turtle]

i did taxes before they were cool

https://i.gyazo.com/0b6ccc824cbd7a8e4116333c9133cd0f.png

taxe only final destination no guns

[winter grove]

They were cool?

Like ever?

[thorn lark]

i paid taxes before half of vet chat was born

[thorn lark]

the bm change hit them hard

and they have not been reworked since ever

[short vapor]

I have no part in this. I do want to note though that the VII has better output solely because of the PA. You only weave lights on the Mk IV.

The PA has the same profile as a heavy.

[somber axle]

I unironically think the Tac Axe IV has the coolest base appearance for any axe, probably the coolest melee base appearance now that I think about it

[thorn lark]

he made his own testing ex

[somber axle]

I love how it looks

[bitter turtle]

its cooler if you turn it into a katana

[winter grove]

Quick play

3 of 4 players got mk12 chainaxes

[somber axle]

yeah but I don't do mods

it's ok though

tac axe IV looks very pretty

[bitter turtle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1202896973774983178/2024-02-02-00-39-24.webm?ex=662b691b&is=6618f41b&hm=66ff3f309b3def82b4d8b9c98931bba714facd04fb4acbbfffe874e263f24024&

[winter grove]

We love chainsaw revving sounds do we

[bitter turtle]

very honorable

[winter grove]

Weeb

[somber axle]

what perks/blessings do you run on tac axe?

[bitter turtle]

shred/headtaker

[somber axle]

I was heartbroken when I tried playing it and found it to be so lackluster

[winter grove]

Shred headtaker

[somber axle]

I must give it another try

[winter grove]

I made more people interested in taxes

Take that fucking IRS

[short vapor]

It's just kinda a weird weapon due to BM existing.

Generally I take a BM + Headtaker/Deci with Mk VII and Mk II respectively, if I want a double damage Taxe I just switch to knife.

[frank ether]

I think BM is the only thing keeping it relevant at any level

[thorn lark]

as long as you can reach the bp

[junior needle]

No reason to take the mk7 when the mk2 exists

It's strictly just a worse mk2

And the mk2 is just a worse caxe

[junior needle]

They aren't very good, make sure you use a mk4

Strictly speaking you can use bm on it but it'll be much less effective compared to something that hits bruiser breakpoints

[last parcel]

mark’s mouth 2 my nuts lmao

[somber axle]

this is the only Tac Axe IV I have right now

I should probably swap Carapace off

[junior needle]

Yeesh

[somber axle]

yeah I had no idea what I was doing with Tac Axes LOL

[bitter turtle]

thats pretty bad

[junior needle]

Well I mean you can get 3/4 of the way there

[bitter turtle]

limbsplitter is only good if you want to cosplay a samurai and only do draw attacks

[short vapor]

H1 PA lands faster with the Mk VII. Upwards of 20% faster than just heavies with the II. Makes it a pick of preference.

[somber axle]

I will need to eventually roll a new Tac Axe

[thorn lark]

apparently they fixed the mk7

[short vapor]

In what way? Did they regularize the reach?

[thorn lark]

i read that in psyker chat tho...

one of the attack did not connect properly

is this what you meant by reach?

you were not availaible when i asked and well zealot chat is half helldivers half ferrets

[junior needle]

Push attack

[thorn lark]

pa has a heavy profile

[junior needle]

I'm aware

I will take a look at it again

[short vapor]

I kept forgetting if it was the IV or the VII but it had some glaring reach issues with some attacks, enough to be annoying.

[junior needle]

it's the 7

The vertical attacks have longer range

[thorn lark]

so l1 and l3?

[junior needle]

l1 primarily

[amber cliff]

im making a fun build with my rev, since scav got nerfed ive got two free points I can use. would you all reccomend I get the two red talents? or go down the middle tree to get cool down reduction on elite kill.

[thorn lark]

good lord

on the other hand i am alway in the face of mobs

[bitter turtle]

you really never skip on cdr

[junior needle]

It's not a problem for the 4

[bitter turtle]

but this is for revoler right?

[amber cliff]

using this one

ye