veteran-class

[somber axle]

Bleed Maulers

[tall torrent]

Carapace enemies take very little bleed dmg

Unless u have rending

[somber axle]

Bleed Monstrosities

[tall torrent]

Which knife has

[somber axle]

I am running Recon VId with as much rending as I can physically get from the Vet tree so it works out in a really dumb way LOL

[tall torrent]

Onslaught is not rending

[somber axle]

Yeah but there's the 10% rending middle node and the 10% rending Marksman's Focus node for max stacks

I am a clown

And I am loving my Exe Stance Recon VId

[tall torrent]

Marksman focus with knife seems like a very counterproductive thing

[somber axle]

You're right but I like playing my goofy Exe Stance Recon VId with my Chainsword

I don't use knife on any of my classes at the moment

Dueling Sword IV Psyker, Chainsword XIII Vet (sometimes swap to shovel), Shield Ogryn, Evis XV Zealot

The mobility is funny and knife is fun for stabbing through crushers/maulers but I like other weapons way more right now

[tall torrent]

Yea without O4B, u can’t get toughness from bleed kills

So toughness gain is a lot worse than most melee weapons

[somber axle]

I know they're not meta or optimal builds but I don't chase meta most times, I just goof around and make whatever seems fun

Only time I look at meta is when I am checking what blessings/perks would be good to combo with a weapon I haven't tried yet

To get a feel for what they're good at

Evis XV with Perfect Strike/Shred is a meme build and Rampage is probably way more effective but I have too much fun with PS granting my ability charge every few swings with the crit proccing CD reduction

Zealot screaming constantly making the Ogryn right to call her Shouty

[tame lodge]

BLOODTHIRSTY evis15

[somber axle]

Ooo

I should try making a new Evis XV with PS and Bloodthirsty instead of Shred

[tame lodge]

The thing is that the play style does not benefit from PS

In fact, it encourages you to hit those beefy boys

With the revved heavy for maximum overdrive

[somber axle]

I do love one tapping Crushers with the Evis XV

I will try it if I can roll a new Evis XV with it

[tame lodge]

Good luck, karking T4 blessing

[austere mica]

Just tried vet bolter with a random build I realized I had bookmarked and a grey bolter with decent rolls

Wow is it good

[fresh saddle]

worth getting from milk?

i already have this for the PSword Mk 3

[tall torrent]

Not as good as urs

[fresh saddle]

i wanted to double-check to see if i could fix the one in the milk shop

[tall torrent]

Slaughterer is inferior to sunder rn

And PC3 is obv not as good as PC4

Ur perks are better too

[fresh saddle]

mmk thanks much

[gloomy dove]

Perk is not perfect but I am taking it

After 12m rolling

[tall torrent]

Terrifying barrage

[gloomy dove]

Yeppphhhh

[tribal tangle]

hows infernus on the helbores?

[tall torrent]

Not worth it

[somber axle]

Even on the Mk II it's eh

[tribal tangle]

weight of fire? i dont have onslaught at the moment

[somber axle]

Definitely not worth on the Mk III

[tribal tangle]

this is for 1 should have specified

[radiant chasm]

Def not helbore is a weapon that thrives off onetaps

But yea you want stuff like onslaught, surgical or no respite

[austere mica]

In a lobby with 3 vets, all Loose Cannons with power swords

[tribal tangle]

got surgical no respite for it

[austere mica]

(I am one)

[low apex]

bro please turn off weapon randomization 😭

[somber axle]

Ok but Loose Cannon is the funniest Vet personality

Cadian is always sad and the other one is always angry

Loose Cannon is always sarcastic and takes nothing seriously

Having a great time

[low apex]

Lady Loose Cannon >>> most class' personalities imo

[somber axle]

Very true

[low apex]

I like Bully Ogryn, guy Agitator Zealot and French woman Psyker quite a bit

Guy agitator just sounds so pathetic you kinda gotta love him

[somber axle]

Judge Psyker is very good and I love the French accent but her lines are very standard

She doesn't have a lot of fun dialogue

Carried very hard by how good the accent is on the character

[low apex]

Hard agree on that one yeah, it's a fantastic voice but i do wish they had more fun lines

[austere mica]

Yeah that's why I run them

They aren't an asshole most of the time

[random crane]

Bro doesn't know how to screenshot 💀

[tame lodge]

Unregistered Hypercam

[austere mica]

Picture of their TV because on Xbox

[trim nacelle]

whats wrong with my knife

[tall torrent]

Weight of fire is onslaught renamed

[tribal tangle]

alright so weight of fire vs no respite? i have both of those

[tall torrent]

WoF

WoF + surgical is the best build for Helbore generally

No Respite is funny for bayonet but bayonet is not nearly as good as it used to be

[somber axle]

There's an argument for WoF + No Respite for Mk II

Or Surgical + No Respite

Fires very fast so maybe doesn't benefit very much from WoF but also since it is charging so fast Surgical generally isn't getting as much value as a Mk III or Mk I

(Idk if No Respite helps with any major breakpoints tho)

[tall torrent]

Last time I checked, nothing major

[junior needle]

The target actually has to be staggered for no respite to do anything

[fresh saddle]

no

[junior needle]

And the bonus stops if it unstaggers

[tall torrent]

It’s for bayonet stagger-locking ragers mostly
Which it doesn’t change breakpoints for

[junior needle]

[tall torrent]

The most efficient way to kill ragers is still charge shot hipfire headshot at point blank range and instantly stab after it hits

Outside of just bayonet stab spam (which is 3 hits for both if u build right iirc)

If u have extra melee talents u can bring Dreg rager to a 2 hit

But you can’t change scab rager breakpoint normally

[somber axle]

Mk I and Mk II bayonet is so amazing

Love it

Mk III bayonet is awful tho

[fresh saddle]

Mk 3 gets some extra strength in its shots, but i haven't found any situations where it changes my breakpoints

[tall torrent]

It has some extra breakpoints

Dreg rager 1HS with +maniac

Reaper 1 crit HS

And it has higher carapace modifier than other 2 variants

[fresh saddle]

i'll need to play around with it more that sounds good actually

[tame lodge]

The iron sights are goated

[last parcel]

if you go all in, you can one shot crushers with a crit shot in exe

[wanton dawn]

I trust the claim, not the reliability

[grand perch]

I wanted to upgrade a bricked gun with 380 base stats and the very first grey I bought off Brunt was also 380 base stats. Emperor be praised

[somber axle]

What's the highest you could get crit realistically with the Mk III

[wanton dawn]

With surgical, deadshot, etc... ?

[somber axle]

There's that node for 10% crit for the first 10% of your shots after a reload, Deadshot for 25% as long as you have Stam, the 5% crit node

[last parcel]

yeah it's really annoying to actually hit in game

[somber axle]

Then add in Surgical and you could pretty much almost guarantee a crit when you want it, yeah?

[wanton dawn]

When i check crit build they get 35% average on a full length game

[somber axle]

Hmm

[wanton dawn]

Its pretty good

[somber axle]

Wait

Surgical can be a guaranteed crit can't it?

+10% crit chance every 0.3 sec ads up to 10 stacks

So the reliability just means you'd have to time it properly and watch the stacks to ensure it pushes your crit to 100% when you need to Exe Stance Crusher head tap, right?

[wanton dawn]

Yeah, kinda

[last parcel]

just don't get jumped while doing that

[somber axle]

Probably unrealistic for a real match where things get hectic and waiting for the stacks isn't always possible

But technically possible to always get the one tap headshot Crusher kill every time

[wanton dawn]

I mean, i have a os setup on ps6 against crusher that does not need crit. But waiting 8 stacks of tag is not reliable either

[last parcel]

and you have to fight the monkey brain telling you "accuracy through volume"

i frequently lose that fight

[tame lodge]

If you're not hugging the horde, you have time

[tame lodge]

Same

[somber axle]

I feed that monkey brain by using my Recon VId in matches

[last parcel]

oh that's not enough for me

it still hungers

[somber axle]

When I feel like playing with patience I tend to swap to my Kantrael XII for lining up heads

So satisfying wiping out a room of gunners and shotgunners just tapping heads one after the other

Not as good as the Kantrael Mg1a

But I love the feel of the XII

Probably nostalgic for the launch days when it was OP

[wanton dawn]

When i feel patient i bring boltah

[somber axle]

Bolter is also good but my monkey brain yells at me to magdump into every crusher, mauler and bulwark I see

[wanton dawn]

I line up head except its the body but it doesnt matter cuz the target still dies

[somber axle]

Muties too

[last parcel]

poxwalkers too

[wanton dawn]

Magdumping can be a good choice. Its rare though

Still better than bracing an agri

Which is not terrible but just a waste of time

[somber axle]

Magdumping bolter into the back of a Burgle

Delicious

[wanton dawn]

I prefer to stab it if i can

[somber axle]

I know some people swear by the braced autoguns but wow I hate how they feel vs any other gun

[tame lodge]

Skewed slug

[wanton dawn]

Well, i only play the agri one. It is great with exe stance

cleaving autogun is no joke

[somber axle]

I know they can be very effective in the right hands and with practice and the right build they would be strong for me too. I just don't like how the gun feels

The agri braced cleave is funny though

[wanton dawn]

I understand. I dont like lasgun at all

[somber axle]

Yeah exactly

Personal taste thing

[austere pine]

huhhh??? melk?

do i get this?

[wanton dawn]

Eehhh

Not great sadly

Busted perk and blessing

[austere pine]

b-but 380

[wanton dawn]

Sustained fire might be alright. The rest is...

[somber axle]

Could swap Falter for Weight of Fire then change out one of the perks for Flak maybe but it's a rough one

Very pretty 380 with awkward perks and blessings

Afaik Mk I is the easiest to build for though

[tame lodge]

You can get it now and wait for the crafting update, but you know, high hopes are not for everyone

[somber axle]

Mk II has more strict things it needs for certain breakpoints

Afaik Mk II wants unarmoured?? Weird gun

But so beautiful with the perfect roll

One of my favs

[austere pine]

does vet get any crit bonuses?

because i have this here and i have 0 clue what to swap for what

[wanton dawn]

Supercharge to bm or sunder

Ps prioritize blessing over perks

[prisma dawn]

Anyone willing to take my veteran along on their runs?

[austere pine]

this is a moment in history

[wanton dawn]

Ahahah, you are POOR

[austere pine]

i can sell this guy prolly

[tame lodge]

Starch and water

[austere pine]

and this?

[wanton dawn]

Idk i dont use either

[tame lodge]

The mk3 shovel is a weird one

[austere pine]

it's been some time since i've used a chainsword and that was the 13g

gone, reduced to dockets

[somber axle]

Devastating Strike is bad as far as I've read from others here. Shred probably helps it along but tbh even changing both blessings leaves it with bad finesse

Probably for the best it was scrapped for dockets

[austere pine]

scrapped shovel

[austere pine]

brUh

if not for ciag, which infantry ag would be the pick?

[rigid pilot]

agripinna but lower mag count means you gotta aim more

[grand perch]

agrippina for sure, graia just feels...off to me

[wispy hinge]

are recon lasguns still dogwater peepee doodoo

[grand perch]

yes

[wispy hinge]

damn

[agile forge]

Just take a CIAG and mod it so it looks like it's shooting lasers

[supple stag]

If you don't like ciag, agripinaa is pretty fun and good

[faint violet]

There can be something done with any of those two?

[grand perch]

you can dismantle them for blessings for the better revolver /s

[wanton dawn]

Right perk seems alright but am no revolver expert

All blessings sucks

Dunno about unyield on rev

[supple stag]

Those blessings are kind of meh

[faint violet]

I have some t4 blessings.

More ask if it will be usable until something better didnt show up.

[supple stag]

I like Handcannon and Surgical, but I use Zarona not Agri

[agile forge]

I think Agri wants Crucian Roulette

Since Surgical is less functional for it

[frank ether]

agri is very much a spam gun so yea

ideally I'd want to run trickshoot with crucian but if you're not very confident in gambling for headshots and don't care for boss dps

then you might aswell go for another blessing

like handcannon or throw another crit blessing in there

[faint violet]

Thanks, gona cheak how it work out.

[somber axle]

Recon VId is ok with Infernus IV/Head Hunter IV and the right talent set up but don't expect it to be CIAG or Plasma gun tier

still ok but not OP

but also very funny with Shock Trooper, Dead Shot and three stam curios for +9 stam (this is pure glass cannon and it's maximum silly)

[woeful ibex]

for me Mark 7A recon lasgun is good

damage and penetration vs horde is good/decent

rate of fire would be slow

[wispy hinge]

already have that

im just waiting for the finesse buff

never ever btw

[somber axle]

get ready for more nerfs

it'll be funnier that way

[agile forge]

I think Recon is supposed to be workable with Onslaught

But Onslaught and Shock Troop means you don't get to invest much in the middle tree

[bitter turtle]

crucian is just bad

ngl

even if you fan a lot

much better value from sustained fire

or shit, even run n' gun

since it has hidden close dmg buff

i still run surgical because i use it like a zarona and dont fan very much, but if you want to fan

i strongly suggest sustained fire

last time i tested it saves you a bullet on targets like maulers

[agile forge]

Good to know

I haven't ever used the agri revolver anyway lol

[bitter turtle]

if you want a perspective

of how meh crucian is

its not even better than surgical until 3rd bullet in the worst case scenario for surgical with only 1 stack

assuming 51% crit base (deadshot, maxed crit bonus stat)

surg would give you 61% 51% 51% 51% 51%
crucian is 51% 56% 61% 66% 71%

barely even a bonus until you fan your 4th really

and how many enemies even take the 4th bullet fan to shoot down

sustained is a straight up 20% dmg boost for the 2nd to 4th shot even if you do need that many boolet

much better

or just run surg like me :^)

[nocturne mulch]

This is my Recon build and it works very well, can use any Recon though I personally prefer the VId https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b168584-971f-4646-ba08-5880abcd01a5/driptide-veteran-kasrkin-recon-lasgun-overpowered-rending?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[bitter turtle]

Overpowered huh

Guess fs need to nerf recon again

[somber axle]

ok but hear me out

look at the buffs

crucian

[bitter turtle]

yeah

im sure your trickshooter agri is so useful outside psyk

:^)

[somber axle]

you can build agripina to be a really funny McCree High Noon fan the hammer gun

that's not even mine LMFAO

[bitter turtle]

realistically

agri is only good for le monstro 1 clip meme vids in psykarium

[somber axle]

people talk down on agripina with crucian but it's a beautiful baby in the right hands like any gun and favours a very bursty playstyle that lets you blow through bosses, crushers, maulers, bulwarks, etc. faster than zarona

[bitter turtle]

wdym people talk down on it

[somber axle]

zarona is better for carefully setting up shots and playing backline

[bitter turtle]

im actually going against the grain

[somber axle]

bruh

[bitter turtle]

when i say dont run crucian

[somber axle]

are you not people

[bitter turtle]

im one person

most ppl usually say crucian

[somber axle]

[bitter turtle]

i didnt know i was the arbiter of darktide opinions

when was i awarded this honor

[somber axle]

you can do surgical or crucian on it but if you wanna do funny fan the hammer bursty empty the gun for fun memes crucian is better

[bitter turtle]

if you want to do funny fan the hammer burst

you should just run sustained

[somber axle]

you're not seriously arguing for using sustained fire as a blessing are you

does it help with like

[bitter turtle]

explain how 20% damage on over half your shots is worse than an extremely minor crit boost until you've expended your 3rd bullet

[somber axle]

breakpoints

[bitter turtle]

yes

it does

[somber axle]

which ones

[bitter turtle]

mauler takes 1 less boolet

as one example

[somber axle]

wouldn't crits also perform the same effect

[bitter turtle]

you already have 51% crit base on a revolver

if it atkes 3 bullets

are you really telling me

a 5% extra crit chance on your 2nd bullet

and 10% on the third

[somber axle]

I don't run revolvers much tbh but it seems more fun to double down on what makes the gun funny vs trying to turn it into a zarona

[bitter turtle]

is better than a straight up 20% damage boost on 2nd and 3rd

[somber axle]

because if you try to play an agripina revolver like a zarona

[bitter turtle]

yes yes

ive heard that before

[somber axle]

you'll just wonder why you didn't use a zarona instead

[bitter turtle]

about surgical

personally

i just dont like using zarona

its overpowered

so i run surg agri and play it similarly

that's not the point anyway

[somber axle]

that's a fair take

[bitter turtle]

im saying

iof you want to fan

[somber axle]

zarona is very strong

[bitter turtle]

use sustained

or run n gun

if what ppl say is true

i have not tested the part where it has hidden close dmg bonus

so idk if its true or not

[somber axle]

do you use sustained with hand cannon

[bitter turtle]

crucian is just so fucking low value

yes

you can just finne

again

revolvers have 51% base crit with deadshot

crucian would not even be reliable

if this was not the case

ur really telling me you would rely on crit as low as 10% per shot to proc handcannon?

if it didnt have crit bonus stat line and deadshot

lol

[somber axle]

idk 6% crit per spent round adds up to offset that one node that gives 10% crit chance for 10% of shots post reload

which is really just the first shot anyway

[bitter turtle]

nobody seriously takes that shitty talent

if you mean opening salvo

its garbage

except on like

meme shotgun shit

like fire only kant

[somber axle]

I take it on helbores and my recon VId because I think it's funny

[bitter turtle]

its

[somber axle]

shotguns are funny with it too though

[bitter turtle]

mediocre-ish on helbore

believe it or not

ive argued in favor for it on helbores compared to some ppl who say its not even worth it on hb

lol

its shit on 6d

[somber axle]

helbore already can run ammo positive with crits and shock trooper on no ammo maelstrom

[bitter turtle]

i would not bother

the gun needs talents on other nodes

if you really want more crit

base 5% crit on all your shots (and your melee) is way better

that minor node right before grenadier

lol

in any case

[somber axle]

with the VId I grab anything that can give her even the tiniest boost to make her shine because while the 10% crit chance for 10% of your shots sounds dumb think of it as 10-11 shots depending on ammo stat since it can go beyond 100 shots per clip

then with shock trooper and deadshot

[bitter turtle]

there is a thing

called opportunity cost

[somber axle]

you spend no ammo and keep the crits rolling

it makes it very funny

I take the 5% crit node too

[bitter turtle]

wasting a point grabbing that garbage is a point you could have taken to actually boost the recon dmg more meaningfully

[somber axle]

take it all

[bitter turtle]

are you skipping on a keystone

then

cause that adds way more dmg than opening salvo lol

[somber axle]

I need to log on to see my silly recon VId build one sec

[bitter turtle]

and im not sure how u can magically grab onslaught, rending strikes, elite dmg, and also a keystone, and also get opening salvo and 5% base crit

and not run out of points somewhere on the way there

[somber axle]

I will share my meme recon build in a moment no worries

I was running it with infiltrate a while ago but swapped to exe stance just because it makes it slightly funnier for deleting crushers

plus the mini-game of killing shooters/specials to keep exe stance rolling is fun

[bitter turtle]

even if you're going exec

kill zone is way better than opening salvo

well, i dont want to make it sound like im saying u must run this or you're trash or whatever

[somber axle]

ok yeah I skipped keystone LOL

[bitter turtle]

runw hat you like

im just saying

picking up shit like opening salvo is just hurting the gun even more

[somber axle]

lemme share the funny build after I input it into the games lantern build editor

[bitter turtle]

even though recon finesse is meh

headhunter lets you crit enough that MF gives a fairly significant dmg boost

since finesse dmg on it also boosts crit dmg

ive tested and its roughly as strong as max stacks focus target as long as you can keep the stacks high in terms of pure dps at least

[somber axle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bbff105-5e9b-41b7-a9ec-fd1cc84f0576/sneaky-cats-recon-vid-clown-build

I made this just for you

behold my clownery

[somber axle]

it's better than the node for +15% ranged damage when enemies are not within 8m imo

and in this build I want exe stance so the extra crit helps push my crit chance stacking for more shock trooper free shots

shoot forever

people who chase optimal/meta will run plasma/power sword but I run whatever I think is fun and this is my fav funny build when I feel spicy on Vet

I like being in the frontline purposely dodging a poxwalker or two, or dodging incoming fire from shooters to proc duck and dive stam

keep feeding the dead shot crit spam

my baby hungers and she will be fed crits

[winged warren]

you guys think the newest vet cosmetic worth?

looks nice but also looks mediocre even if i pick up the side helmet / headscarf

[somber axle]

the robot leg DOES look really cool imo

[lyric dock]

This is your personal choice. If it looks good on your vet set. Buy it

[somber axle]

but the set overall is eh especially with the original head piece

[lyric dock]

If not

Wait until next rotation

[winged warren]

robot leg? i didn't notice
can you screenshot xD

[somber axle]

yeah one sec

[bitter turtle]

btw

[winged warren]

nah im asking because i never see the previous sets before

[bitter turtle]

i dont know if you weren't aware

[somber axle]

I'm still in game for a few more minutes

[bitter turtle]

i just realized lookiung at the tooltip

if u were looking down on sustained fire

i hope you realize the tooltip for it is wrong

[winged warren]

i think there are a few really cool ones but im not sure if its an exception, or if the new sets really going to shit

[somber axle]

the robot leg is my fav part about it tbh

and I think you may have made me convince myself into buying this + the other helmet

[winged warren]

wait this is the new set? or u make this urself

[somber axle]

I know there's a past cosmetic with a robot leg but who knows when it will enter rotation

[winged warren]

cause i remember the shirt is like cloth

[somber axle]

that's the new set

unless you mean the one from last rotation

[winged warren]

so second newest set is the cloth one?

ya i was asking about that, so sorry

[somber axle]

this one has no robot leg

but I did buy it

[winged warren]

ya i was asking about htis, i thought this was the newest one

[somber axle]

I'd say it's worth it

the chest piece and pants look good imo

[winged warren]

is this considered one of the "better" ones?

[somber axle]

the mask is eh but there are other helmets to match

the only complaint I've seen by others is that it lacks gloves

idk how people rank the sets as far as popularity

I know Steel Legion and Krieg sets are very loved

the Cadian set is very loved

I personally love the Catachan set

[winged warren]

i regret getting the krieg sets ngl

hard to mix and match, looks generic

i got krieg for my ogryn

[somber axle]

Catachan my beloved

[somber axle]

I've wanted to get them but that's fair

the cloth one you mentioned has lots of jingly bits that move around

one more screenie of Catachan because I love it with the Vermintide tattoo

[winged warren]

maybe lighting but look different from here

[somber axle]

it's very similar to the robot leg set currently in rotation

the cloth set on the second page of Vet cosmetic rotation has the same pants but different colouring and the boots are more armoured

Catachan boots have cloth around the ankles

[winged warren]

i see, i understand its thematic and lore friendly.
I feel vet has alot of cosmetic just make him look like generic soldier

[somber axle]

if you wanna see generic soldier

[winged warren]

this my psyker, i don't have actual photo though
The pants are black on purpose so i don't look like a cosplayer

[somber axle]

I have exactly the set to show you

[winged warren]

i dont really want to look like generic soldier xD

[winged warren]

i think this oe looks better

he looks like a tanker

[somber axle]

there are other sets to make you look less like Guardsman # 1238102983012

[sage root]

Damn I need those trousers

[winged warren]

i just don't like these kind
and your cataan one

[somber axle]

sometimes I swap the hat for the goggles to look like a pilot

[winged warren]

yeah this ne look cool too

[somber axle]

there's also the really funny Atoman Noble one

red and gold

Fallout T51b power armour looking chest

end up looking more like a Zealot

it also has a very neat cape that flows when you run

[frank ether]

I like the model, not a huge fan of the colour scheme though

I guess its neat if you wanna look like a zealot

[somber axle]

that's fair

they'll probably release it again as a recolour one day

[winged warren]

i think theres one way worse that is alot of gold and looks super corny (not sure if its vet or zeal)

I think the only red gold done well is psyker's

[somber axle]

oh yeah I love it

feels like a clown costume LMFAO

skulking in the shadows trying to hide from nurgle worshippers in bright red and shining gold

[winged warren]

i feel look like cosplayer that tried too hard

[lyric dock]

Times you wish you can customize the colors on some of the cosmetics

[somber axle]

I can show you the cloth set in a bit more detail

I have it on my Vet but I don't personally use it since I like swapping between the various lore regiment appearances

Steel Legion is a fav

https://gyazo.com/63550e255eb8869453fff2c93231ab8e

the pouches, the inquisition accessory on the belt, the knife on the back of the waist and the canteen all wiggle

the cloth hanging off the hip sways a bit too

personally not a fan of the mask

but the chest piece is definitely worth grabbing

I think the shoulderpads are really cool

[frank ether]

really hate the MTX shop model they have

there are so many things I would like to buy

and chances are I will never catch any of them

[somber axle]

honestly same

I hope they change the shop to put up all the sets they've ever released and let people buy what they want instead of waiting bi-weekly to see if there's a good set in rotation

a shop more like Vermintide's would be nice

I would buy way more cosmetics if it wasn't just limited to whatever the newest recolour is

[frank ether]

That'd be more ideal for me or even if they brought a larger catalogue every once in a month, but I guess they're dead set on not making money

or maybe ppl really buy stuff regularly each month, Idk

[somber axle]

I buy something if I think it will mix and match well with other sets

There are a LOT of repeat items though

Just not the sets repeating

Grey bandana appears so regularly as a side item

[frank ether]

yeh they take existing items, maybe change a colour or add a very minor detail and then combine it with other existing pieces, and then sell it as a set

[somber axle]

If I want to look like a homeless person I'll use this season's penance cosmetics

Waiting to see the new penance cosmetics from the announcement for good looking cosmetics though

[frank ether]

I guess soon we'll find out

[trail totem]

🧱 ?

[dire olive]

Not too bad

Not a brick at least

[winged warren]

ngl i feel you are someone who actually appreciates the art and im just a normie who wants somehting cool but not too edgy

[winged warren]

penance cosmetics change???

[wet elk]

finally

which perks yall recommend?

[supple stag]

Flak/Maniac

[frank ether]

whatever you'd like to kill better

test your bps and then swap them accordingly

[wet elk]

i love plasma gun

so much

[ripe totem]

voom

[low wagon]

any advice on improving that build further?

that helbore works surprisingly well on crushers (even 2-headshotting them with focus and stance)

I struggle a bit with long ready time of helbore after swap though

[astral ingot]

take shredders instead of krak and use the point saved to grab longshot

[brisk oxide]

been running power sword with slaughterer over brutal momentum and it's pretty sick actually

lets me one shot dreg gunners and two shot maulers

fighting ragers becomes very doable in melee

[severe gale]

can you one shot ragers with just a push stab on the mk6? i haven’t used a psword in a while

[brisk oxide]

fully buffed i would bet you can on a crit yeah

[severe gale]

like without slaughterer stacks or brutal momentum

[brisk oxide]

oh with that i'm not sure

[severe gale]

i’ll have to check

i run slaughterer on my psword

[brisk oxide]

i would say no, unless you crit

then maybe

[hollow ibex]

thonk~2

giving up a lot of horde clear for that

[severe gale]

but i see people say that brutal momentum lets u hit weakspot breakpoints

[brisk oxide]

you are but it still clears hordes pretty well, you just kill like 3 poxwalkers per swing instead of like 6

[severe gale]

with slaughterer your hordeclear is already very good

[brisk oxide]

but poxers are not that scary anyway

[hollow ibex]

no, it's bruisers that you need brumentum for

[severe gale]

brtual momentum beats it out yes but not by a significant amount

[brisk oxide]

what's a bruiser?

oh shield guys?

[hollow ibex]

the hordes that have armor and clubs

[brisk oxide]

oh i like slaughterer for them too

[severe gale]

no, flak armored melee

[brisk oxide]

you dont need to make head hits

[hollow ibex]

no, brumentum makes a massive difference

[brisk oxide]

slaughterer lets you kill them with body shots

[hollow ibex]

which is why it's a s tier blessing on basically any weapon that hs it

[brisk oxide]

so you can just be flinging your swing all over the place

and still get kills

[hollow ibex]

but whatever works, it's still a PS

[severe gale]

in my experience it’s not game changing

[severe gale]

yeah that too lmao

ps is pretty brain dead

[brisk oxide]

it's less brain dead than most melee weapons though

[severe gale]

not really

[hollow ibex]

https://youtu.be/VDAUhd4pgz8 o really

[severe gale]

it’s just

push, dodge back, special combo, repeat

[brisk oxide]

right, but most melee weapons are light attack over and over

[severe gale]

yah but most don’t wipe entire hordes in like 4 swings

[severe gale]

i know how it works

[brisk oxide]

right, so they're just worse, not more sophisticated or something

PS you actually have you have a bit more finesse since you can lose your charge by getting hit

and you dont have insane mobility like knife that can make up for bad positioning

[severe gale]

i guess

[brisk oxide]

i do agree you lose a lot of horde clear without momentum but in the games i played with it it felt like a decent trade in order to be doing so much more damage to elites

[hollow ibex]

ig doubling dps (or more) against hordes, which is 90% of the encounters, is nbd for you huh

[brisk oxide]

it kind of isn't a big deal, since in practice you're already killing them about as fast as they can spawn

[hollow ibex]

maybe on heresy

[brisk oxide]

like if you stand at a spawn door that a horde is coming out of, you'll not fall behind

[hollow ibex]

on higher difficulties, you absolutely can and will be surrounded by hordes at all times

[brisk oxide]

sure, but you still have one of the best horde clear weapons even without BM

[hollow ibex]

your weapon, your call

[severe gale]

i’m not saying its bad

i’m saying that slaughterer helps make up for what you lose with brutal momentum

[brisk oxide]

yeah they're both good options imo

[severe gale]

brutal momentum is good yes

[hollow ibex]

agree to disagree

[severe gale]

but slaughter is also good

[brisk oxide]

BM is probably a little bit better overall, but you can't fight elites as effectively with it

you're not gonna clear a horder of dreg gunners with it

[hollow ibex]

it's not just a "bit" better, but i'm not arguing this point anymore

[brisk oxide]

as quickly

[hollow ibex]

there's good reason why sunder and brumentum are considered the S tier blessing options (next to PC4)

slaughterer is hardly the end of the world, but it's also not at the same level as those two, esp since sunder exists

but like i said, your weapon, your call.

[brisk oxide]

right, everyone is aware BM is the best blessing

i'm simply saying slaughterer opens up some interesting gameplay options that you can't get with BM without as much loss as you'd think

[severe gale]

is sunder the rending on energized hits?

[brisk oxide]

oh yeah and you can kill a crusher with one charge using slaughterer even with no crits

[severe gale]

you can kill a crusher with just a push attack and its follow up, no need for the third hit

i think

i don’t actually remember now

[brisk oxide]

don't you have to charge again after a push attack?

feels slower

[hollow ibex]

that's super charge

sunder is increased cleave on energized hit

[hollow ibex]

and yeah

that's one of the major reasons people take ps6 over ps3

could also just light attack spam to the face, but it's less efficient obviously, even if mechnically easier

[brisk oxide]

i feel like three lights is faster than push attack followed by charging and then another push attack

[hollow ibex]

you can push attack > L3

without charging last time i checked

[brisk oxide]

it keeps the charge after a push attack?

i would have sworn it didnt

[hollow ibex]

or was it L4 idr

nah it def keeps the charge

without charge, there's no way people would give a shit about that combo

[brisk oxide]

huh, i must be losing it then. i was sure it shuts off after the first push attack

[severe gale]

no

just push attack then light

[brisk oxide]

good to know

[severe gale]

yah it’s really good

it’s what makes the p6 so much better

along with the flat lights

[brisk oxide]

PS6 push is nasty yeah

i feel like its aim is a little wonky though

like it doesnt quite hit where you'd think

[severe gale]

the push attack?

[brisk oxide]

yeah

[severe gale]

yeah with thrust attacks u always wanna aim higher

[brisk oxide]

yeah that's what i mean

[severe gale]

it’s just weird hitbox priority stuff

[brisk oxide]

it goes lower than the cursor

[vernal harbor]

gonna make a mod that plays fart reverb for every hit that isn’t a headshot

[lean bloom]

What would you change here

[brisk oxide]

power cycler to 4, specialists to whatever gets you interesting breakpoints in psykhanium

[lean bloom]

whats better Maniac or Flak armoured?

[brisk oxide]

flak imo

for PS there's only really 2 maniacs that matter

hmm actually maybe 3, tox flamer has 1400 hp i think

[lean bloom]

Not a 🧱 i think

[brisk oxide]

i'm not crazy about specialists for PS since there's only 3 that you dont kill in one hit i think

yeah vs 4 for maniac, which are also basically the exact same list of enemies except that maniac also includes the rager

[lean bloom]

Hate those bastards

[regal smelt]

stacking damage talents on any power cycler 4 power sword is going to do the trick, just gotta rely on stacking those buffs a bit more

[winged warren]

for melee or ranged? or both

should make positive osund whever you hit headshot

like uh

anime climbing noises

[orchid tartan]

[somber axle]

Tbh I know very little of 40k but I have some friends who are aggressively into it and one of them is into the Sisters of Battle with figures and does tabletop. I like the regiment sets from the lore my friends have shared

[somber axle]

Yeah the announcement a few days ago mentioned new penances and puzzles on the way with new cosmetics to earn but they haven't shown what the new penance cosmetics will look like yet

It's the most recent forum post in the news channel here but the short summary

New penance system
New NPC to change personality (Change from Professional Vet to Loose Cannon Vet, etc.)
Tox Bomber new enemy type announced
New titles, portraits, poses, emotes
Moebian 6th Loyalist cosmetics announced

The post says it's due for release in April

[brisk oxide]

late april, apparently

[somber axle]

So we should see something later this month yeah

[winged warren]

oh ya i saw that, but i didn't know penance cosmetic is seasonal

[brisk oxide]

have they said what's happening with the old penances?

[somber axle]

yeah the first season's cosmetics from just after launch became the redacted penances and some of them are only earnable through private games like the Pysker penance to Brain Burst a Daemonhost to death while the newer season's cosmetics are the standard rags that have the penal legion vibe

[odd sparrow]

What changes would you do

it doesnt hit flamer 1hit BP

[brisk oxide]

how close is it?

it might if you go maniac over specialist

figure you'll get 17% more damage vs em

[winged warren]

can someone fake @ the regular here with the anime pfp

like what is his/her username again

very cool dude

pink pfp

japanese username

ah its yuri

[pastel mist]

Hey does anyone have a fun vet build for braces auto guns? I wanna try something new from being a specialist shooter.

[wanton dawn]

agri brauto

[pastel mist]

Aight thanks!

[wanton dawn]

Oh, I am finally using smoke grenade unironically me think

[tame lodge]

Good, if you pay attention, some maps have perfect spots for smokes

[frank monolith]

if everyone of your team is in the smoke

you can mind control gunners to run in the smoke

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-giggles-peepogiggles-gif-21481319

[astral valve]

Ooh I have one hold on, I'm not sure if you'll think it's fun but I enjoy it

It's melty

[astral valve]

I win

[wanton dawn]

i lost

Btw, I refined my clown fiesta build

plasma/ps with pc/sunder

I have a survivalist variant now but it is less fun

[agile yew]

Oof if only dump was charge

[austere mica]

I run a TR dump and it works quite well

[agile yew]

Yeah mine is same, but Thermal actually does let you shoot like 1 more before overheating

Charge does nothing

[astral valve]

Yeah after I posted that I came in third on tags in the next mission haha
Always nice to see other people actively tagging though

[agile yew]

What for last perk?

[astral valve]

7 more missions and I'll have Through The Mud and...I might have to start harassing a different class channel and learn about more than vet

[agile yew]

Ogryn is fun

[verbal rivet]

flak or maniac?

[lean bloom]

Flak

[agile yew]

Any tips on what to change on my plasma? I could go IV Gets Hot too for that 50% crit

[ripe totem]

huuuh

[ripe totem]

I think shattering impact and gloryhunter myself

thats what I run

gives me enough damage to run an infiltrator build

[agile yew]

Took blessing according to this pinned guide

[ripe totem]

blaze away is iffy

the only reason being whatever counts as continuous shots: if you so much as hold it away for like 0.2s you dont get the bonus I think

[verbal rivet]

magdump plasma for big crowds, only problem is you reach max heat super fast

[ripe totem]

its one reason I use it mostly on infiltrator build but it's that good you can more or less use it in vocs etc

kill elites like it was nothing by aiming for the head, two shot anything rager and above

[astral valve]

Mine is..okay? It gets the job done

[ripe totem]

yeah thats a decent plas

[astral valve]

Good enough that I'm not motivated to make a better one yet

[wanton dawn]

I like mine

I think it is the highest rated stuff i use

Base stat

[astral valve]

I'm told my axe is bricked but I still really like it

[wanton dawn]

My 380 are no good

41% crit reach on plasma last full game, woot

[agile yew]

My Psyker has 549 Surge Staff, 1 point from perfection

[wanton dawn]

Actual fun build. Smoke is great on the repair mission

[agile yew]

Numbers too difficult, must be the fever

[wanton dawn]

I like it

Way better than krak

[agile yew]

They should give some class toxic pox grenade

Now that they getting added

[tame lodge]

Cool idea, but I'm afraid we have similar concepts already

Immolation Grenade

AoE + damage

[ripe totem]

I run this build w/ max toughness curios + plasma and devil's claw

mega fun and saves runs as well if people go down

parry for ragers, always charge shotguns and gunners with slide and also throw in stealth interspersed

plasma for everything else

krak for crusher swarms

[tall torrent]

flak

[agile forge]

Smoke is highly underrated

[wanton dawn]

It is very taxing in point

[tame lodge]

Luckily, vet tree is pretty strong

[random tulip]

@potent iris Mod sticker plz

[potent iris]

I will forward it on to those who control the stickers

[random tulip]

ight thank you

[bitter turtle]

Why are you holding it

Charged shots are dps and ammo efficiency loss

[tame lodge]

I wonder how many vets know or play with that in mind

[junior needle]

Considering how many players on the subreddit choose to have crit/weakspot damage on their weapons

Probably not that many

Those are probably more invested than usual too

[tame lodge]

Could see the logic if you pair with the extra 30%
But then if you have the 30% you won't really need another 10%

[ripe totem]

I mean more its just iffy in general, like aiming slightly might screw up what counts as continuous

on that note I've only seen two instances where charged shot works though

can be used to stagger a charging mutie (even though a headshot will do this, the hitbox feels smaller? on plasma while a charged will guarantee it)

and maulers if you absolutely need one to die if they start running up to you with ragers and you have no kraks

but generally vet shouldn't have too many problems with plasma ammo efficiency anyway as charged is more or less shit + plasma has a good refire rate and the single target dps as you said is better

[agile yew]

Replacing crit or elites?

[tall torrent]

Crit

[agile yew]

On it

Happened to wake up with leg cramping 10min in straight as got fever, so something to do 😅

Will have to do for now. Now if id only find power cycler IV for 2 energised hits, meanwhile Rashad to the head

https://tenor.com/view/hide-the-pain-harold-gif-10576512

[winter grove]

Fellas yay or nay?

It's 25% carapace 8% groaners and glory hunter 4

[fallen flame]

Could be worf

You could make it shine

[junior needle]

Ehhhh

Not really what you want

Carapace can be ok but apparently others are preferred for practical use

Groaners and glory are scuffs

[agile yew]

Yeah stat distribution isnt really optimal, mobility is the one you want least

Depends what you have now, could be stopgap before better

[winter grove]

Bet

I'll keep the melk coincs then

[tall torrent]

noe

[gray finch]

ok i got story i found the speedrun zealot he activate every enemy in ma he got downed mid way so naturally he "/rejoin " spawn close to me try to kill me bcs last man standing he got downed again so he just fully died he dc i died after he rage quit
next game same person same strategy he activate deamonhost tried to dc so it would kill me... game let him died from deamonhost doesnt granting him disconnect properly he failed to kill me 2 times XD

i got 10 minutes video of it

[potent iris]

huh I've heard multiple reports of 1(?) dude doing this

where he just aggros the whole map, pulls a DH if it exists and then DCs and reconnects to keep going

[gray finch]

HE BLOCK ME

XD

i cant join his games

[junior needle]

Might want to censor that one

There's a rule about naming and shaming

[gray finch]

my bad

[tame lodge]

The not so bad ending

[verbal rivet]

vet tree is jank, i don't use any keystones on 4/5 of my vet builds

[grim widget]

is this thing possible to salvage if i add uncanny strike? with this shovel you want carapace + unyielding on this instead of flak dont you?

[austere mica]

I have maniac on mine to bully ragers better but yeah drop limbsplitter for Uncanny and groaners for whatever

[verbal rivet]

flak+maniac/unarmored

[grim widget]

so i can keep flak and slap unarmored on it? no unyielding or carpace?

[austere mica]

basic shovel is bad at carapace

Not sure with uncanny but still its a horde stagger weapon

[split sapphire]

I do find scab melee only Maelstrom's fun, especially now that i have a power sword with Sunder, krak grenades of course

[rigid pilot]

Won't he run out of matchable players very fast

[gray finch]

others just leave when died and see speedrunning zelaot

[winged sonnet]

Is it the same guy you and I just played with? I reported him, he's still doing it. The DH killed me when he d/c'd

[tame lodge]

See, it works stoneless

Strong, that's my point

[split sapphire]

So i don't even need a keystone to shine bright?

Interesting

[gray finch]

yes

XD

i could get to his match

somehow

i still playing with him

[winged sonnet]

I submitted a ticket to report him, dude was griefing to hell

even to throw the payload off the map wtf

[split sapphire]

That's just rude, unacceptable 😤

Who would even go out of their way to do that

[somber axle]

Ooo

What difficulty is this creature on

[winged sonnet]

auric damnation

[somber axle]

oh wow

[split sapphire]

Wow

[winged sonnet]

is the ogryn his premade

?

[somber axle]

My guess is either they're a bored heresy hero who isn't going to notice a drop in player count by losing auric damnation players or zealot isn't their main so they don't care if people block that character

Does blocking stop someone accountwide?

[gray finch]

nope

i am right now

[winged sonnet]

surprised kick didnt pass everytime then

[gray finch]

adn pressing the kick xD

[split sapphire]

Dang

[gray finch]

the ogry probably didnt know or see

[winged sonnet]

ahh yeah maybe

[rigid pilot]

Kick pass rarely passes because at least one person won't know what's going on because they are so immersed

[potent iris]

yea can't name and shame in here HOWEVER, I saw what you deleted and yeah that dude has apparently been doing this a lot

[gray finch]

fancy that

[potent iris]

[gray finch]

can we just ban this guy so he will only get solo matches and play by him self

[winged sonnet]

^

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-bolter-warhammer40k-space-marine-warhammer40000-adeptus-astartes-gif-22320694

[tall torrent]

Cool model

[junior needle]

drg bolter

[tame lodge]

And of course it's a scout weapon

[verbal rivet]

more like the keystones are basically useless

general nodes are more useful, particularly for grenade spam

[paper brook]

Just dropping my daily against the Emperor

[vapid nacelle]

Laspistol vs Monstrosities on Specialist spawn is fun don't pay attention on my other damage my melee weapon sucks

[inner olive]

Anyone here run into the issue where firing an auto gun just deletes sound? Anytime I pull the trigger I just hear the bullet casings hit the floor Lmfao. I’ve had this randomly in the past but never found a solid way to fix it.

[sage root]

if you like grenade spam so much do you know about shotguns with full bore buffing nades?

[wanton dawn]

Most blessing buff 'nades damage

[somber axle]

finally tried melee Vet again

love the knife so much

so fast

zooming around stabbing everything

[wanton dawn]

I still play PS with melee vet

[somber axle]

I gotta be SPEEDY

[wanton dawn]

I gotta cut hordes down

[somber axle]

though also I feel like I should apologize to the zealot in my last run because I was using infiltrate with the -90% threat talent node and whenever 8-10 ragers spawned I'd hit stealth then stand inside him and stab things while they all aggro'd onto him instead

he was fine but wow I feel bad

and they spawned a LOT wow

ai director is so funny lately

[junior needle]

Zealots are built for melee

He'll be fine

[last parcel]

was probably happy to be spilling so much blood

[odd sparrow]

Same its just so good

Feels great with atk speed buffs

[agile forge]

Block cancel on the activation on the 6 goes a long way

[wanton dawn]

Btw, blue stim is monstruous on plasma/ps6

Red is better for autoguns

But blue plasma makes you shoot 2 times faster for 1/4 the heat

[trim hemlock]

People underestimate the power of celerity, from my experience at least

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/celery-celerycash-defi-smartbch-bch-gif-23857618

[wanton dawn]

Eww, brocoli

Or other green vegetable with weird headshape

[agile forge]

The best stim is green stim because I can non-consensually inject a martyrdom zealot with it to make them deal less damage so I can win the scoreboard and therefore the game.

[turbid crypt]

о русский

[wanton dawn]

Imagine losing cuz bot is NOT saving you from trap despite being on top of you

This is worst than losing solo

[agile forge]

I fucking hate the bots in this game

[vague smelt]

I like then they're are still trying to attack enemies inside the elevator

[balmy flume]

Bots are alright if they replace a quitter, briefly.

[dawn garnet]

Is helbore 2 the good one?

ie stab not slice

[agile forge]

1 and 2 both stab

3 slashes

The 2 is the lighter version of them all

it's really good

[dawn garnet]

so quick equip

fuck 😭

[agile forge]

nah, still slow as fuck lmao

[dawn garnet]

i logged in to get a 380 helbore 2

[agile forge]

just use the bayonet unless it's a crusher

helbore 2 is fantastic

I love it

[dawn garnet]

but i forgot

😭

[verbal rivet]

I love stab spamming the 2, even works against packs of ragers

[wanton dawn]

Crusher and mauler. Have a melee good against those

[dawn garnet]

helbores are fucking real

[agile forge]

Mark VII shovel is a great pair for it

thematic and also strong

[dawn garnet]

i dont remember which one i used to level vet but it legit cleared better than my melee until like level 25

[dawn garnet]

i have an ok mk3 shovel

[agile forge]

no idea what the mark 3 is like, only ever used the 7

[dawn garnet]

light spam for clear

decimator is super underwhelming tho

[verbal rivet]

I have a savage sweep/rampage chainsword I was pairing with mk2 for horde clear, might have to try shovel

[slow spade]

Plasma fun c:

[slow spade]

Just hit things more

[tame lodge]

It's a "weird" one, I don't like the heavies

My "best" shovel is a Mk7 with thrust and decimator 4

Hoo boy do I like hordes

[slow spade]

Spawn director- "I agree" spawns 50 gunner horde

[tame lodge]

I had a situation yesterday, room full of gunners, stalkers and one crusher, the horde was hugging us

I let the Graia IV roar at the horde and the gunners while dodging from the crusher

I somehow dodge an overhead while dodging in place since no room to move

I went down like ten seconds later from an overhead that I mistimed

Or rather dodged too much

Would've been different if I had smokes

While that would be true, I could've played better

[slow spade]

Shouldn't take damage

Usually a bad idea

[merry glade]

dye figure deathspitter is worth swapping out for speedload

[tame lodge]

It saves you from picking tactical reload

Which means you don't need to watch your mag

[tall torrent]

Carapace isn’t of much use unless u have onslaught

I’d swap to elite / maniac

[merry glade]

yeah i've got onslaught but even with i'm not feeling carapace much

[tall torrent]

Yea prob swap to elite/maniac

[winged warren]

we have three VoC vets...
our toughness forever yellow

[dreamy spade]

Another bot melee attacked a burster and I died

[dreamy spade]

What the hell

All my teammates just got fell off the side

And then the bots did too

[frank monolith]

to take or not to take?

[tall torrent]

noe

[verbal rivet]

which trinket for a mk2

[tall torrent]

2nd row, 2nd column

looks pretty cool

I use the auric charm (100 missions of each type) on my ranged weapons

[verbal rivet]

where even is this one from? lol

[dreamy spade]

Does born leader work when you're at max toughness but still getting toughness regen?

[odd sparrow]

allegedly it should

[dreamy spade]

I was gonna say

It would be awful otherwise

[odd sparrow]

yes

[tall torrent]

yes

[agile forge]

It is still awful iirc

but it's less awful than it could be lol

actually I guess it gives a purpose to all of the excessive toughness gains you can get from the start of the tree

could maybe try a support build that takes that with every toughness gain available

[lyric bridge]

This is mask my Veteran is wearing - but still has a no-mask voice audio

[astral valve]

Definitely looks like it should have the mask voice

[umbral granite]

I am told that the "take-a-swing" blessing doesn't work properly, can anyone confirm if this is true or not?

[woeful junco]

Yeah it should.

[woeful junco]

Yes, I've read the same thing

[umbral granite]

Sad... I rolled a shovel with native take-a-swing 4 and uncanny 3, and already changed both of the perks out.

I'll still hold onto it in hopes that take-a-swing get's fixed

[last parcel]

hasn’t worked in my tests

[umbral granite]

Welp... that's extremely dissapointing...

It seems like a really cool blessing in concept as well. (push back a horde of chafe and suddely be able to take some heads off)

[woeful junco]

the fact that I've read about it is a good indicator that it could get fixed soon

because it means devs have seen it too

[tame lodge]

Good, I have a build in mind

[woeful junco]

QA tested it just now for me and the voice filter (regular "muffled" type) does seem to work

[dreamy spade]

When I'm constantly killing elites and specialists I have A LOT of toughness regen, combine with 50% aura and it's actually helpful

[lyric bridge]

Interesting - perhaps I need to do one of those files check?

[woeful junco]

can never hurt

"verify file integrity" on steam or in the darktide launcher

[agile forge]

Yeah, I kinda see it

I would love to be near somebody with that on my psyker tbh

[tall torrent]

do they have plans to have the "muffled" filter be audible by the player wearing that headpiece
cuz only having it be audible to teammates is pretty lame

[tall torrent]

not with 1 build

[woeful junco]

It is audible to the wearer too

[tall torrent]

does the krieg helmet have muffle

[woeful junco]

I imagine so, yes

but I don't own that myself

[wanton dawn]

Overkill is not real damage and should affect your score negatively folks

[last parcel]

bro turned them to paste 💀

[astral ingot]

Bro killed everything twice

[wanton dawn]

Turn out smoke grenade was the secret sauce that lacked to my build previously

who would have though

Basically the build straight up annihilate anything that comes at close range, but is weak against ranged fire. Smoke solve the problem

[tame lodge]

Who'd guess that not getting shot is great

With that being said

Let's go, smoke value

[astral valve]

I think I'm going to admit defeat and take a wound curio

I am not consistently good enough for Damnation with 2 wounds

[merry glade]

i hate this game

[tall torrent]

That’s fine, practice more and u will get there

[astral valve]

My stats are usually okay but I'm tired of being downed by some trash face slap from behind

[past sundial]

Anybody here running the Vraks Mk 7? I've been steadily trying out all the blessing combinationa, was wondering what other people like to run on their Vraks.

[tall torrent]

just gotta check ur 6 every once in a while and be on alert

[wanton dawn]

Oh my god

[tall torrent]

surgical + deadly accurate
unarmored / flak / elite

[wanton dawn]

Brunt you son of a gun

[astral valve]

How do upgrades affect that Thrust I

[tame lodge]

It still a tier 1 blessing

[wanton dawn]

nobody care about thrust

its the rest that matters

[tall torrent]

Thrust I / II / III / IV
Melee heavy attacks gain +5/10/15/20% melee power every 0.25s after being readied.
Stacks 3 times.

[astral valve]

Oh no I just meant like, if it starts as Thrust I, does that change via upgrades or does it just sit there as Thrust I until you do something about it

I feel like I should know the answer to this question already

[wanton dawn]

I still need desperado to get the OS on scab bruiser

[tall torrent]

it stays as thrust 1 until modified

[wanton dawn]

but good enough

[tall torrent]

dreg u mean?

[wanton dawn]

yeh

[tame lodge]

It won't change from tier 1 with upgrades

[astral valve]

So is it just the modifiers that make it desirable at that point?

[tame lodge]

It also has a decent perk but yeah