veteran-class

[raw steppe]

etc

[tall torrent]

But that’s the only real use case

[raw steppe]

but alas

early access games

[pulsar radish]

So much for the news before the end of the month lol

[tame lodge]

The month has not ended, quote me on that wether they failed or accomplished

[pulsar radish]

We defo won't get anything saturday/Sunday. Could be tomorrow i guess

[sinful jacinth]

Remember if we get news on Monday it's April fools day.

[crude fiber]

That'd be pretty fucked up of them to pull am April fools joke with how little content we've actually been getting

[tall torrent]

probably tmr

[winged warren]

mr path

i realized i don't need reload speed because i can qq swap to reload lol
should i go for +1 nade or 30% stam on ranged dodge :3

i know the answer is +1 nade but i want you to say 30% stam

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-frown-whatever-pout-gif-7955128

ok time to burn 600k and 10k on a good rashad

wish me luck ty

smh this is the best one
time to break down everything

[tall torrent]

What weapons

[winged warren]

shotgun / volvo + caxe

[tall torrent]

Also, dm

[terse idol]

First target dump sucks

[winged warren]

i don't know if y ou are saying i don't need FT or my FT stat sucks

[elder fiber]

they're saying its not ideal for it to be dump stat

but its not as extreme as knife or psyker melee fwiw

[terse idol]

For a rashad

Like first target is exceptionally important

I'd definetly test it with the correct perks but you really don't want to dump first strike is what I mean

Like rashad can be hard to build anyways

[torn inlet]

man rashad is too finicky to build for me

i feel like you should do that after getting an easier to obtain weapon

its the exact opposite of plasma gun

need xyz rare specific combinations to be good

meanwhile pg is happy as a gray

there are even people that once accused me of never having or using rashad lol

nope, its just garbage because rashads are garbage outside godrolls

[terse idol]

I mean you don't need a god roll

Just base 70 in all damage stats

And then you have to run supporting talents

[agile forge]

it's just no longer a free super flexible option for any and all vets to take, like it was before the BM change

[dreamy spade]

emperors gifts be like

[austere mica]

Got some blessings you can rip at least

[torn inlet]

meanwhile those are completely optional on pg

[terse idol]

I mean

You want as high as possible damage stats

But yea pg is braindead

Like you don't want a 60 damage 60sp pgun

[torn inlet]

right, but rashad users opinr strict bps

[terse idol]

Cause it might fumble a bp

[terse idol]

Again budget rashad isn't baaad

[torn inlet]

might but wont matter because you could always partially charge if you wanted to

and for most situations ammo isn’t an issue

cause if the enemy were really that important you could right click

[sudden quail]

Best headhunter agripinna autogun?

[torn inlet]

i posted my actual rashad after claims i didn’t have or use one. everyone turned their heads in shame

[terse idol]

I use a budgetshad

😭

[torn inlet]

rightfully so

i criticize rashad for not being economical to get

[agile forge]

A weapon so simple shouldn't be such a bastard to craft lmao

feels wrong

[torn inlet]

it’s mainly due to rashad hipsters lol

[terse idol]

The issue is

Itnjust ain't simple that's yeag

Like you need

2 correct perks, 1 correct blessing minimum
And a minimum stat distribution

Unless you're talking about how it's Just an axe then yeeeahh

[sudden quail]

Best headhunter agripinna autogun?

[sinful jacinth]

Go with MK9

[sudden quail]

kk whats best blessings / perks

[tall torrent]

Headhunter mk3 and mk7 are good, mk9 is awkward

Blessings you want Headhunter + Deadly Accurate for Mk3, Surgical + Deadly Accurate for Mk7

Perks-wise, unarmored / elite / flak

[tribal tangle]

Anyone have a good build for knife? Running Fleshtearer/Uncanny4

Build as in stats/talent

[gray finch]

is knife have to be main weapon like in melee build ?

[tribal tangle]

ya thats what i wanna do with it

i have it on a couple builds for mobility

[gray finch]

i mean the knife dont need any further buffs on melee and you can just play whatever with it

[tribal tangle]

rite but like i want the most damage possible

[steady stream]

anyone wanna help me cheese a penance?

[tall torrent]

which

[steady stream]

make every shot count

[final stag]

Switch fleshtearer for Mercy killer and take serrated edge.

And you'd mostly wanna do a melee build for veteran so take infil or VoC.
Right skill tree mainly with WS.

[tall torrent]

How do u want to go abt it

And what region

[steady stream]

Ok so the plan is this: you add me as a friend, we do a match it in private, complete the level but before we extract,I shoot out all my ammo exept one, alt+f4, rejoin, hit one enemy and then we extract

also europe

idk if it's been patched yet tho

[gray finch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bacf8c9-ea1f-4317-9d61-76f91357c9c2/melee-4

[tall torrent]

Pretty sure that’s been patched out?

The alt f4 method

[steady stream]

welps, that sucks

[tall torrent]

Patched almost a year ago

[steady stream]

thx anyway

[final stag]

Just mag dump a beast

[tall torrent]

It’s not hard to do it legit anyway

[steady stream]

I am extremely naurotic about it

neurotic*

[final stag]

Beasts have high dmg reduction everywhere so yeah just mag dump the mf

Plus they're slow so not gonna miss much unless you can't hit the broadside of a barn

[tribal tangle]

But thats a plasma build...

i mean it says "melee" for sure

but its plasma

[steady stream]

if I hit something with splash, like a bolter, is it a hit or a miss?

[final stag]

Lemme make one for you right quick

[tribal tangle]

i got the gist of that

[tall torrent]

Do NOT use Boltgun for that penance

[tribal tangle]

he just linked me something that isnt really melee focusd

[tall torrent]

Going pure melee focus means giving up a lot of nice things

[tribal tangle]

i run revolver on 95% of my builds, i started on vermintide

[tall torrent]

Revolver wants left side stuff

[tribal tangle]

i just use it for specialist tho

which are already 1 shot with surgical

[steady stream]

man I hate this fucking penance,

a few montsh ago warp battery made me ragequit the entire game

[tribal tangle]

dont do penances now, they're redoing the penances in 2 years smh

looks good, ty

[tall torrent]

Warp battery 300s really wasn’t that bad

[steady stream]

I'm at 294/300

[tall torrent]

Do u want me to help u

[steady stream]

no

I could doit solo

But every time

I aim at something

and my teammate instantly kills it

and bam

[thorn lark]

i started revolver on the right side, i was like i'm a cowbow now yeeehaw. Then i discovered left side revolver. Now i am John Wick.

[steady stream]

two misses

[tall torrent]

U can do it in orthus offensive as well

[steady stream]

so like alone?

No bots no nothing?

[tall torrent]

Not alone, I mean like

If there’s a person with bell skip

[final stag]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bacfd91-d51f-48a5-972c-dea5d8385acd/meleeknife?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[tall torrent]

U can do it really quickly

[steady stream]

what the fuck is a bell skip

[final stag]

Use the hard mode bells to skip the entire level

It brings you to the karnak twins but they're buffed

[steady stream]

I still have to empty (almost) all my ammo into enemies

[final stag]

Just mag dump a beast and DONT take scavenger

[tall torrent]

You never did orthus offensive?

[steady stream]

no, I ragequit when it started thanks to fuckingwarp battery

[tall torrent]

.ok

[steady stream]

I swearI could have done both of these penances solo

but teammates dont have the brain capacity to understand "please let me take gunners and shotgunners ESPECIALLY before a loading screen or elevator"

or "please dont shoot what I'm shooting at"

[final stag]

Then get a private team

Going into pubs expecting to do penances is asking for pain

[steady stream]

I'M complaining in the darktide discordabout a difficult achievment, do you think I have any

[tribal tangle]

hows riposte for knife on vet?

[tall torrent]

It’s alr

[tall torrent]

I just asked and u said no

[tribal tangle]

what do

[steady stream]

okay, you got two other friends then?

[tribal tangle]

uncanny can stay idgaf about the few more %

[tall torrent]

No

[steady stream]

So?

[tribal tangle]

so cara something else?

[final stag]

It's fine. Just doesn't benefit vet that much.

[tall torrent]

Wdym so? Do u want me to help or not

What difficulty are you gonna play

[tribal tangle]

would raw damage output be better? i have executioner 4

[steady stream]

@tall torrent

[tall torrent]

Executor not great because non-weakspot hits drop all stacks

[steady stream]

you alredy answered m8

[tribal tangle]

ORLY

[final stag]

No. Executioner is not amazing.

I'd say precog because you're gonna dodge alot

[tall torrent]

???

[final stag]

Plus helps with clearing chaff

[tribal tangle]

Mother fuckers in zealot tryna tell me dAts BeST iN sLoT

[steady stream]

average darktide teammate's brain capacity

[final stag]

Zealot and veteran melee play separately

[tall torrent]

Do u only want to start if there’s 3 other people to help u? Or do u want to start a 2 person private lobby

[tribal tangle]

Yeah but the mechanic doesnt change lmao

[final stag]

Plus you gotta juggle with melee vet to hit some breakpoints

[tribal tangle]

and even if its technically more damage the fact that it drops if you miss weakspot makes it infinitely worse

[final stag]

Precog is alright. Uncanny a must. If you don't have precog you can take mercy killer but sacrifice a talent somewhere to get serrated edge.

[tall torrent]

Precog / mercy / riposte

Riposte is never bad

[tribal tangle]

looks like precog 4

[tall torrent]

Especially since veteran just has less melee crit chance than zealot

[tribal tangle]

i didnt realize i have almost all the tier 4s for knives now

[tall torrent]

Mercy requires u to play serrated blade at top

[tribal tangle]

me thinks bleed probably isnt nearly as good as it is on zealot, so ill probably go raw damage

[tall torrent]

Flesh tearer isn’t great for veteran

[tribal tangle]

precog 4 it is

i mean bleed in general

no crits andwhatnot from the bleedstacks so its not as good

[final stag]

Bleeds okay on vet because it saves a blessing slot but steals a talent slot

And I'd rather have that talent for iron will

[tribal tangle]

rolled this one just a second ago

[final stag]

With my build as well you should be able to tank sniper shots without taking health damage and also tank crusher overheads without taking health damage granted you are near a teammate

[tribal tangle]

ez

gonna try yours and belugas

[final stag]

I play melee vet alot so have fun

[tribal tangle]

thats a little better

[midnight totem]

I'm tired of using the columus

but my melkbucks challanges are 1000 dreg and 1000 scabb T_T

[tribal tangle]

@final stag first game

decent test

[final stag]

Knife isn't the best for melee vet but it does put in work. I used it for a long time. Infil is also a great utility or burst damage option

[tribal tangle]

ive been stuck on zealot using knife, figured id try vets version of it

stuck as in only using stealth lol

[lethal lantern]

anyone know the ideal blessings for plasmagun?

[terse idol]

Bruh

Just do it naturally or chill

[tribal tangle]

@lethal lantern Blaze Away and Gets hot

eveything else is worse

[austere pine]

praise the emperor

[lethal lantern]

wb gloryhunter?

[tribal tangle]

gloryhunter is only good if you're doing a toughness focused build

if you want damage BA/GH will wreck

[tiny summit]

It's good. It's instant toughness restored to you. Blaze Away is nice but it's also more dmg on continuous fire. Most things are dying to the 2nd tap anyways w/o it.

[austere pine]

just had 3 monstrosities spawn on my ass in less than 2 minutes (weakened), ama

[tribal tangle]

but we need to penetrate groups of crushers

thats the stuff that matters

[lethal lantern]

i noticed crushers and mutants going down with 3-4 taps (then i also dont aim for the head with plasma)

[tribal tangle]

aiming for the head helps a lot

you do a good bit more damage

[lethal lantern]

yes. im using flak/elite perk and volatile/shattering blessing

might have to reroll a new one

[tiny summit]

Hence I said "most things". Like Blaze Away and Gets Hot? You get max dmg. Glory hunter just also isn't bad.

[lethal lantern]

got it 😄

[tall torrent]

Blaze away doesn’t help with that

[tribal tangle]

its good if youre focused on toughness but tbh id just run shout\

[tall torrent]

You cannot cleave crusher with plasma, period

Because carapace blocks cleave automatically

[tiny summit]

Wanted to say that but I'm also dumb

[tribal tangle]

ok we need to destroy groups of crushers

[tall torrent]

You can only cleave through carapace with very specific blessings, limited to only brutal momentum, sunder, Deathblow and perfect strike

Anything else, no cleave through crushers

[tall torrent]

Elite + flak
Gets hot + gloryhunter / blaze away

[tall torrent]

Blaze might help bodyshot reach 3 shot kills on crushers with enough stacks

Otherwise gloryhunter is better for majority of situations

I think blaze away with enough stacks also gives u 1HS for both ragers

[lethal lantern]

sweet

cant wait to make a new shiny plasmagun lol

[tall torrent]

Gets hot is the main one

Crit bodyshot has similar 1 tap breakpoints as non-crit headshots

[north spoke]

I can't wait to see the new Veteran cosmetics

[gilded wraith]

Recommended blessings on a chain sword?

[tall torrent]

Mk4
Rampage
Savage sweep / bloodletter

Mk13g
Rampage
Wrath

[gilded wraith]

Thanks! I think Rampage 4 is in melks.

[cloud totem]

I need help with penance

[dusty bluff]

For MF - Tunnel Vision. It is 2.5 toughness replenished per stack or is it 2.5 toughness replenished on kill per stack.

[final stag]

I think 2.5% replenished from any toughness sources but I could be very wrong

[desert elbow]

i have a 380 boltgun but the damage is 65%

rip

[thorn lark]

[junior needle]

Should mention that light spam on the 4 still wants wrath

But with heavy spam/weaving you don't need it

People who don't know better are for sure still going to try and light spam with that setup

[tiny summit]

It is up to 25% bonus toughness replenished from your sources of toughness replenish. So ET, CK, OfB and Catch A Breath get more toughness. Unsure if it interacts with covering fire

[frank ether]

I have come to feed the obese fish

[dusty bluff]

ah, cheers. thank you.

[steady stream]

@tall torrent sry if Iwas rude yesterday m8 I was extremely annoyed but I just finished every redacted penance for veteran so now I'm all good

also does serrated blade trigger on revved up chainsword hits?

[normal cosmos]

does mg12 lasgun is even any good?

[supple stag]

I use it from time to time, it's alright, hit heads, avoid shooting crushers and you're fine

Not my favourite for Veteran, that spot is reserved for Vreks VII, but it's pretty reliable

[normal cosmos]

what stats you ignore when rolling vraks 7?

[supple stag]

Let me launch DT and see my Vreks 7, cause I totally forgot what do I have on it'

[normal cosmos]

nah dw about it

[supple stag]

Roll something that has good damage and stopping power, and maybe stability if you hate it's recoil

[muted knot]

Not really no

[supple stag]

for perks idk, I went with 25% maniac and I didn't switch the other one, unarmoured enemies, too lazy to do so. For blessings I run surgical IV and Deadly Accurate IV

[odd sparrow]

mk12 lasgun is still good

its just outclassed by plasma and columnus

[supple stag]

Plasma is boring

[muted knot]

It's outclassed by both other infantry las guns

[odd sparrow]

mk 4 still isnt that good

[muted knot]

I run flak and unarmored for my vraks to get one taps on both gunner heads

[supple stag]

Flak eh? I'll check it myself honestly

I love vreks 7

[dusky flare]

mg ia maybe, the iv not so much.

[normal cosmos]

mk4 lasgun still not good?

[muted knot]

@supple stag maniac is kind of yucky on slow weapons imo

And I really want to one tap gunners

That's like the whole reason why I like running vraks 7

[supple stag]

Reasonable, I don't use my ranged whole lot, more of melee veteran myself, will check it out though

[dusky flare]

Director went ballistic, never ever seen these numbers in a regular auric HI before. Had to check several times to see if it was actually stg.

[muted knot]

You run melee vet with vraks 7 ?

[supple stag]

Yeah I do, is it weird?

[muted knot]

Na in just asking

Well

I assume you run weapon specialist?

[supple stag]

Yep, I do

[muted knot]

Interesting

[supple stag]

I like it that way

[muted knot]

I prefer to run shotguns/revolver

With wep spec

[supple stag]

I use revolver on some other wep spec build

with Munitorum 3 shovel I think it was

[muted knot]

Man I like the old shovel

[supple stag]

agile engagement too I think it was

[muted knot]

You just bonk away

[supple stag]

I tried to enjoy Munitorum 7 shovel, but it's just not feeling right

[muted knot]

It just falls off a bit too much on damnation imo

The old shovel that is

But for wep spec I stay running the old Chainsword

[supple stag]

I can't make myself like chainswords

[muted knot]

I play a 40k game so I have to use a chainsword

[supple stag]

My friend converted me to Munitorum Mk 6 Power Sword

I love that little fella

[muted knot]

Another amazing melee

[tame lodge]

The special is incredibly good against crushers, I thought it would make them flinch, but no, they take some steps back

[muted knot]

I can't think of many other melees where I specifically pull it out when I see a crusher

[supple stag]

Power Sword + Vraks 7 is the loadout I can run all the time on Vet

alongside Krak nades

[muted knot]

You had me

[muted knot]

Then you lost me

[supple stag]

Oh no

Anyway

[muted knot]

[supple stag]

I don't need frag nades for cc

Voice of the Command and Power Sword do the job just fine

[fast sundial]

why not run the superior grenade

[supple stag]

The tastiest grenade

[supple stag]

Hello Psykestie

[fast sundial]

power sword already has excellent horde clear and if you need to clear space for a res, krak still does that fine (or better, because frags won't clear armor)
also, voc
also, boss burst damage

[fast sundial]

greetings vetstie

[frank ether]

a little krak is good

[tame lodge]

[agile forge]

Stillllll trying to craft a VII shovel

[frank ether]

you'd probably like krak a lot more if the game didn't give free unconditional rending so easily

[agile forge]

put away the krak before the krak puts you away

[supple stag]

Krak never put me away

Too drunk for that to happen

[fast sundial]

i am not the one consuming krak

I'm distributing it among the heretic population

[frank ether]

I like your name

[supple stag]

I follow the tradition from Vermintide server

[fast sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/кот-с-блином-gif-10831142101566956833

[supple stag]

Kot :)

[fast sundial]

Kot :)

[frank ether]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-trapped-kitten-speech-bubble-gif-25553629

[fast sundial]

unfortunate

[frank ether]

skill issue 😔

[fast sundial]

grey name no rights

[supple stag]

[fast sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-trapped-kitten-speech-bubble-gif-25553629

[merry gale]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-speech-bubble-speechbubble-jumping-gif-1442947099119727019

[supple stag]

Enough cats

[fast sundial]

thank you Karl Franz (prince and emperor)

[frank ether]

no such thing as too many kot

[fast sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/backflip-cat-backflip-cat-cute-gif-26462939

gato flip

he is dodging trappers :)

[supple stag]

Too many kots will make me hungry

And I haven't got lunch yet, and breakfast

[fast sundial]

eat bliny instead of kot

[frank ether]

do not eat the kot

[supple stag]

Good luck stopping The Drunkest Veteran

[remote osprey]

Why are you calling cat as kot, comrade?

[supple stag]

He follows me and Kat in that

I am Polish sadly so yeah

[remote osprey]

Oh, neighbor!

[frank ether]

I like the way it spells

[supple stag]

Reveal your country

[remote osprey]

It indeed sounds nice, tovarisch.

[remote osprey]

Gave you hint above.

[supple stag]

Russia?

[remote osprey]

Bingo!

[supple stag]

I have a good mood, so hello neighbor

[frank ether]

Its actually a nice language when spoken softly, but so are most I suppose

[remote osprey]

Hope, you have a nice Friday (as everyone else here).

[supple stag]

Having lots of things to do around house doesn't cheer me

But I gotta commit

[remote osprey]

Dishwashing is usually the most atrocious one. Especially when doing manually and not left to servitor.

[frank ether]

I don't know whats wrong with me but I find house chores rather.. riveting?

[frail topaz]

Veterans assist what’s a better blessing?

[supple stag]

I have lots of ash to move from basement, not fun

[frank ether]

Its relaxing for the brain at least, no thoughts

[frail topaz]

Then other one I have is savage sweep

[supple stag]

Savage Sweep for IV I feel

[frail topaz]

Cleave or Dmg essentially

Aight

[frank ether]

oh that does not sound fun, I'd suggest wearing a mask

[supple stag]

Don't use much chainswords myself

More of Power Sword enjoyer

[frail topaz]

I have a III for savage sweep

[frail topaz]

Yeah I’m using a 550 gear level power sword atm

Just wanna have a second class

[frank ether]

do not worry about gear score, focus on blessing/perks and key modifiers

[supple stag]

Try Shovels, they can be fun

[frank ether]

knife vet is a blast

[frail topaz]

This legit never overheard and is really good too

Overheats^*

[frank ether]

I recommend the heavy knife if you're not fond of the light attack spam for trash clear

its a riveting weapon

[supple stag]

Eh, I don't like plasmagun myself, but have fun with it, go nuts I guess

[frank ether]

silly me thought it would have been nerfed like 3 months ago

it still might next update, but hoho, what update lmao

[supple stag]

It still can deny any fun if the Vet is somewhat competent

(more often than not he isn't)

[iron marten]

plasma vets when they see ammo (they only shot once)

[frank ether]

I feel like plasma is not the only thing doing that currently, but don't get me wrong, I agree with you %100

Like when I get a psyker I either spend the game beating training dummies or uh, I can't see anything from projectile effects / enemies die to AoE staff attacks, not even crushers survive.

[frail topaz]

Once again plasma vet not my main

[hoary horizon]

Had mission with mean veteran. Said ogryn useless. Fell down everytime there was horde. Took all healing. Then said carry. Made Ulgo angry. Team votekick him when reach elevator! Was funny

[frail topaz]

I actually use mark 7 Recon las as its so deadly accurate with the burn stacks

[iron marten]

I mainly use laspistol and revolver

[frail topaz]

It hogs the kill feed

[iron marten]

though I use plasma if I just want brain off and give me plasteel

[frank ether]

revolver is very cool, I wish it wasn't so broken so I could use it guilt free

[iron marten]

lol true

[frank ether]

I guess thats why they added the other revolver lol

[supple stag]

Vraks 7 my beloved

[hoary horizon]

Morale of story. Be good team player

[iron marten]

as long as you have fun and be a good team player!

[frank ether]

as long as you pick up the plasteel

[supple stag]

Plasteel...

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo tries! Not fast like zealot.

[tawny whale]

I recently tried a Zealot with a chainsword and holy shit it tears through things

[iron marten]

yeah, quite good fun, esp with martyrdom stacks

just clean house

[tawny whale]

I'm awaiting new guns before to do more of me ol Veteran...and Scion armor

Need to have a change from my Commissar outfit and I sadly regretted not getting Krieg attire

[frank ether]

When I'm really really drunk I like to play evis zealot

[hoary horizon]

Try heavy sword! With good blessing horde is down

[tawny whale]

I've yet to try an Eviserator. I did find the Thunder Hammer a little...lacking

Like sure I can pummle most big guys but like...eehhhh

[frank ether]

Its like a better chainsword for all purposes I bring a chain weapon for

kinda boring though you know?

[tawny whale]

Chain Axe on my Veteran when I was useing one was INCREDDIBLE for slaying armored targets with the special grind

[frank ether]

being on zealot makes it bearable, because fury of the faithful is one of the most fun abilities in the game

[tawny whale]

It made me imagine this is what a Chainfist must be like

[fast sundial]

not too fond of chain weapons

[tawny whale]

(also I would adore a Chainfist seeing as Navy Breacher kit has human sized one so like plz Fatshark)

[frank ether]

chainaxes are fantastic fun, they do have some problems being chain weapons

but chainaxe is enjoyable despite that

[fast sundial]

i will however say that chainaxe does a ton of elite damage

[frank ether]

especially on zealot

[tawny whale]

Power Sword and Revolver on my Veteran is my current loadout as they are my highest I level weaponry

[fast sundial]

funny crusher oneshots

[tawny whale]

I do wish we had a damn Bolt Pistol or Plasma Pistol

[fast sundial]

shame that they look so dumb

[fast sundial]

what's on them matters mote than the total level

but yes respectable choice

[supple stag]

Zealot is something I like to play for max a game or two

and switch back to Vet

[tawny whale]

Oh? Huh didn't consider that truth be told in all my time playing DT

[frank ether]

yeah the stickies actually grow on me after the rework, and the heavies do fine enough cleave

[tawny whale]

I think I would prefer to replace my Revolver with a bolt or plasma pistol for a nice magazine over the slow loading rounds

I'm...alright with a Laspistol, never found a particularly good one

[fast sundial]

you actually reload your revolver?

that's mad

[supple stag]

Reloading is overrated anyway

[tawny whale]

My Veteran works as a Commissar with full build towards the Voice of Command supporting tree

Hence been using that outfit for ages now.

[frank ether]

laspistol damage mostly comes from crits and that dot blessing

[tawny whale]

I wish the outfit had a proper storm coat

[fast sundial]

then you should definitely try a chainsword and laspistol style

[tawny whale]

I should try find a good chainsword for my Veteran but Power Sword does work quite nicely for shredding targets

[fast sundial]

laspistol can be excellent with crits, and fortunately everyone gets access to some amount of it

either from deadshot, scrier's gaze or blazing piety

[frank ether]

doesnt laspis have like higher base crit chance to begin with

[fast sundial]

maybe

[frank ether]

talents make up the rest of it anyway

crits more often than not

I guess most ppl find deadshot icky

but if you're gonna use it on any gun laspistol is probably the more ideal one

[iron marten]

I don't run deadshot with my laspistol and my damage is fine tbh

[frank ether]

think I have a heavy laspis

with infernus on it

It actually has viable crusher dps

[supple stag]

I use melee on crushers, I am too vermintide pilled

[iron marten]

here's mine

[frank ether]

its not great, but you could do it in a pinch

[iron marten]

I rely on powersword for crushers

[supple stag]

Krak and Power Sword do the job

[tawny whale]

I wonder if there is any good Laspistols currently in the game...

[frank ether]

I like to open up with a crit before swapping or just spam a few shots in between

[fast sundial]

very pretty

[tawny whale]

I shall go check now with ole Sire fellow, he usually has good guns

[supple stag]

Kantrael X is pretty fine when I used it

[fast sundial]

kantrael laspistol i am not a big fan of

[clear pier]

what are the go to blessings for Agripinaa revolver?

[iron marten]

I usually top out for boss damage with the laspistol, assuming a zealot with shroudfield and thunder hammer isn't in the lobby

[fast sundial]

rare accatran W

[fast sundial]

which one
braced, infantry, headhunter?

[supple stag]

revolver uhh

[fast sundial]

ah

revolver i see

[clear pier]

my b hahaah

[fast sundial]

probably surgical hand cannon

[supple stag]

^

[fast sundial]

like zarona

[frank ether]

agri is the funny fanning revolvo

[supple stag]

I'd use Zarona tbh

not Agripinaa

[frank ether]

I would just go for a spam build on agripina

[supple stag]

But have your fun there

[clear pier]

i use the zarona usually, just wanting to test the fanning one

[frank ether]

yes I know surgical is crazy strong

[fast sundial]

depends on how you use it

[frank ether]

I'd just rather build for spam on that weapon because it has high fire rate

if I'm not using the fire rate imo why bother

[clear pier]

but is surgical even good on the fanning? considering you just shoot all the rounds so quick?

[steady stream]

Is the psycharium bugged or does the incendiary shotgun adn serrated blade actually that weak?

[fast sundial]

helpful when you need longer range performance

[clear pier]

im thinking crucian but not sure what to pair with it

[fast sundial]

serrated blade actually sucks yes

[near sable]

https://tenor.com/view/vermintideii-vermintide-ii-warhammer-sigmar-viktor-saltzpyre-gif-10045273004143974735

[supple stag]

I am not a fan of crucian when it comes to revolvers

[fast sundial]

only boss damage or mercy killer activation on knife

[frank ether]

trickshooter, whatever the rending blessing was, or that weapon swap blessing for even more crit chance maybe.

oo wrong quote

[fast sundial]

point blank hand cannon is also a cool idea

[clear pier]

why not if i may ask?

[fast sundial]

definitely recommend deadshot

[tawny whale]

Here is me good old boy

[frank ether]

If you're gonna play into the weapon swap and rate of fire its not so terrible, could use a little more duration but its workable I guess

[supple stag]

Mag size + the fact I don't like to run on a almost empty gun to get any benefit

[fast sundial]

mengsk..?

[supple stag]

and on Auric Damnation there are like morbillion gunners sometimes

Don't like being caught with my pants off

[iron marten]

wrath and rampage with a psword hmm

[clear pier]

fair enough

[supple stag]

That's my view, see for yourself if you'll like it

[fast sundial]

rampage slaughterer when?

least powered power sword

[frank ether]

longsword vet

[vague smelt]

Love getting a 380 just for Hadron to brick it

[supple stag]

Power Sword without power cycler

[vague smelt]

[supple stag]

[tawny whale]

Ah a person of taste

[iron marten]

[supple stag]

I remember when my power sword didn't have that, oh lord the pain

[tawny whale]

I forgot how many weapons my Veteran has on him...

[iron marten]

I got power cycler when the beta just finished lmao

[frank ether]

I'm bored of psword

[supple stag]

Longsword Vet

[tawny whale]

Chainsword, Chain axe, a shovel, two types of Power Sword

so many different Lasguns

[frank ether]

the push attack is cool and all but psword gameplay is too monotonous outside of that

[iron marten]

I was able to experience what psword was like when you didn't need to know how to melee

[frank ether]

I want a psword with a cool moveset

mix it up a bit

[iron marten]

mmm 7 heavy energized swings...

[frank ether]

longsword gaming

[supple stag]

I am fine with Munitorum 6 power sword myself

[hoary horizon]

Shovel time

[frank ether]

tbh you still don't need to know how to

[supple stag]

More often than not only me and Kat do the melee action in the lobby

[frank ether]

3 energized is enough to pulverize pretty much everything in front of you

[supple stag]

so it serves me well

[iron marten]

true, you just need to learn how to distance yourself and push when you need to charge it up

[tawny whale]

I'm going to try one run with my Chainsword and Laspistol like Kat said

[iron marten]

a well rolled rashad though, imo, is less effort than a powersword lmao

[frank ether]

I dislike that it has wheelchair mobility but I don't want to bargain with fatshark on it

[supple stag]

However, Munitorum 3 Shovel is also a fun thing to use regularly

[frank ether]

I just hope they add like a third ps that has a cool moveset

and non wheelchair mobility would be epic

[iron marten]

powersword with stabs as heavies pls

[tawny whale]

When Krieg outfit returns I'm fully doing a Lucius and Shovel loadout

I must embrace the Vraks life

[supple stag]

Vraks 7 for the win

[iron marten]

yeah, v7 is pretty cracked aye

here's mine

[supple stag]

I had mine somewhere, give me a moment

[midnight totem]

My vraks 7 is my most highly rated gun. I just dislike it though

Probably because brunt chose ammo as the dump stat

[frank ether]

mobility is nice on these guns though

[supple stag]

Here's mine lovely gun

[fast sundial]

when you activate and it just engages choppermode and the horde dies in 3 seconds to a grey weapon

[midnight totem]

Yeah but ammo is painful. My vraks 3 gets better ammo efficiency even if I mag dump

[fast sundial]

vraks is cool but i have skull issues

so revolver it is

[supple stag]

You almost got to the redacted gun Kat

Thankfully, revolver shown up

@fast sundial are you busy around evening?

[tawny whale]

You knwo what Kat, Chainsword and Laspistol is pretty cool

[fast sundial]

it is! even if it's not my style

with the right blessings that can do a ton of work

probably want rampage and savage sweep/wrath on the chainsword

[tawny whale]

I'm currently using a Accratran pistol and...I forgot what chainsword

[fast sundial]

i am not

[supple stag]

Double Vet action?

[fast sundial]

(the redacted gun would still do the same job very well)
(but revolver has style)

[fast sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/valri-valriing-out-v-female-v-cyberpunk-2077-gif-951305113801742016

[supple stag]

Double Vet it is then, once I am done with uhh, things

[fast sundial]

is it the one with the sweepy lights

or sweepy heavies

[supple stag]

[fast sundial]

accatran laspistol is also just very comfy

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/841646619647803394/1177640310675865610/buh.gif?ex=65733e01&is=6560c901&hm=df5d57d0647d2f1d9c1d9684746b7915a30944ba7af1e6631e12e9cd29ef3c91&

[iron marten]

niiice

[supple stag]

so I shall descent into uhh, things that I was supposed to do

Happy hunting ya'll

[fast sundial]

idk what my vraks had

time to find out

acceptable

the stopping power though 💀

[supple stag]

Mine isn't much better

but the gun serves me well

[fast sundial]

it oneshots everything that it needs to, doesn't it

[supple stag]

Yeah, it does the job I expect it to

Tap gunners, continue melee

Melee Veteran is the way to go

[tawny whale]

Ok now I can tell you what weapons I have properly mission is over

It's a Cadian Mark 4 Chainsword

[fast sundial]

the old style heavy sweeper, then

solid

[tawny whale]

I've switched back to my old Mark 3 Power Sword that I believe has extra charged hits and causes Brittle on a target I think

I just closed the game so I cannot remember properly

[rare bough]

Is there a general consensus on which Psword is better?
Or more an either/or situation?

[tawny whale]

I want to say I prefered the Mark 3 for it's sweeping attack

My Mark 6 I'm not the biggest fan of

[fresh saddle]

PSword 6 has more utility with the Carapace smack of the Shove-Stab, but weird diagonal lights for horde clear

PSword 3 has harder time dealing with Carapace but ezpz horizontal sweeps into horde

[rare bough]

First two lights on the mk6 are horizontal though aren't they?

[fresh saddle]

yup, you can block cancel if you want to just use those charged

[fast sundial]

overall, 6

first three lights are horizontal

[supple stag]

I find Mk 6 more enjoyable for my kind of thing I do on Vet

Mk 3 lacks the single target damage

[fast sundial]

but since the empower change, every other cycle has an overhead on the third strike

so like, empower, 3x light sweeps, empower, 2x light sweeps, 1x light overhead, repeat

[supple stag]

I just swipe lights regardless, still does the job

[fast sundial]

still kills heretics just fine :)

though i am somewhat tempted to make a meme power sword

the un-power sword

rampage slaughterer

[supple stag]

💀

[fresh saddle]

https://youtu.be/N8M1RKZSNXQ

third is diagonal

[fast sundial]

horizontal enough

[supple stag]

It can still get some horde down, I don't mind it as much

[fast sundial]

but yes

it is not particularly noticeable

come to think of it, the unpower sword sounds like a bootleg illisi

i'm committed to it now

i will make it

[supple stag]

I wanna see it in action once we play today Kat

You'll need someone you can relay on :)

[fast sundial]

well, i do not exactly have any plasteel to make it

best i can do is bring a grey power sword

[supple stag]

I advise you to not do that

[fast sundial]

it would be the true unpowered sword experience though...

[supple stag]

[fast sundial]

looked at a little detail

[tawny whale]

Your just saving the power cell battery life

[fast sundial]

they really went out of their way to make the mk VI power sword objectively better

[tawny whale]

I know a dream weapon I would want

[fast sundial]

it has built-in block cost reduction

and apparently

[tawny whale]

A Guardian Spear

Unfeasable but so cool

[fast sundial]

it is also cheaper to sprint with

[supple stag]

My body is a machine that turns heretics into pile of meat

for Sanders to fry

Cadian Fried Heretic should become a real thing

[fast sundial]

power sword should fry heretics on hit

[supple stag]

[tawny whale]

It does cauterise the wounds it causes

[midnight totem]

Hear me out. All weapons get a single "modules" slot to attach to them that give a positive/negative effect

For power sword, it'd be like, a "malfunctioning" power core. Targets hit get set on fire, but... I dunno, innate crit is reduced

[pulsar radish]

tbf it already is malfunctioning.

Power swords dont normally flicker like ours does, it stays on lol.

[midnight totem]

XD very true

I had a list of these ideas

[pulsar radish]

so youd double down on it- it explodes in your hand, now you get -acc when using a two handed gun because you got a nub.

I think if they did "modifications" like that - theyd need something fun - unique. For lead chuckers - warhammer has plenty of ammo types.

[fast sundial]

overcharged power sword (cooldown on special, but it slices through anything)

imagine that

[pulsar radish]

For lasguns its a bit harder- since imo the only "mag change" is a bigger mag, or the hotshot mag.

[midnight totem]

Infantry Lasgun:

[pulsar radish]

though im hopeful they get hotshot lasguns in anyways.

A hell gun kicks ass.

[midnight totem]

Lascoil capacitator makes gun fully automatic, reduces recoil and spread, reduces damage by 10 percent,

Hh autoguns, heavy barrel, increases stability and weak point damage when ads, reduces dodge distance by 10 percent

Braces autoguns get drum magazines, vastly increased magazine for an increased reload time

Most of these are meant to be sidegrades instead of complete upgrades

Flamer: blessed preigniter,stacks burn to maximum instantly but increases consuming ammunition by 30 percent

[pulsar radish]

A lot of these are cool, but like

WE need more guns bro

xD

[midnight totem]

We do

I want my hotshot lasgun

[tawny whale]

Oh I don't think our Powerswords are malfunctioning

[balmy flume]

Just managed to make a decent Mark V Autogun.
Damn this is actually swell.

[tawny whale]

I think we have a limiter built into them to save on power cell usage

We are too expendable to have full powered swords

[balmy flume]

(Maybe we are convicts so it is also to stop us from going AWOL with them?)

[tawny whale]

Exactly that too

Power Swords are valuable and powerful weaponry, take for example in Necromunda they often cost alot of points

Rejects being issued them is likely in response to how fucked Tertium is

[supple stag]

I'd be probably using Mk III Shovel is power sword wasn't the case

[agile forge]

I wonder what a proper weapon is tbh

full 100% modifiers on all attributes and every blessing at once maybe?

man I just wanna get a shovel VII

this fucker is impossible to craft

[trim hemlock]

like this one?

[lilac kayak]

getting cycler 4 for ps is impossible for me

[agile forge]

I will steal.

[agile forge]

Same lol, but I'm doing fine with PC3 for now

Would be nice to get the full 3 swing combo and I'm still checking melk every day

but PC3 is still the second best blessing for power swords, right after PC4

the gap is way smaller than the gap between PC3 and not having PC at all

[lilac kayak]

I pretty much gave up when I couldn't get cycler 4 even with the plasteel bug before update 13 came

[agile forge]

It's just a shit Illisi without anything lmao

I'm playing anyway so it costs me nothing to check

I just try to keep a float of 3000 melkbux or so

as my "PC4 is up"contingency

I've missed it twice now

due to not enough bux

[lilac kayak]

eh ps movement is a bit slow for my liking at times tbh

[agile forge]

It has the, um, power, to compensate though

it's fine to be slower if you have an answer to kill anything that closes

Usually I keep my gun out for movement if I'm using the PS

and its attacks are very fast once you have it powered up

the PS6 at least

[lilac kayak]

the problem is when u need to kite your way out of hell when things go very bad

[agile forge]

Yeah, that is true. Partly why I wanna make the shovel tbh

The power sword, in theory, can let you stand your ground against literally anything though

there's no melee threat that can't be answered with a power sword

If I have another weapon to answer carapace though, I tend to prefer the chainsword IV

More flexible

much better mobility

only really struggles against crushers

[lilac kayak]

I only have issues when I got to deal with a patrol or a mixed horde of enemies along with the annoyance of disablers

[lilac kayak]

I like chainsword alot tho I am not a fan of the special attack since it doesn't guarantee a stunlock on crushers or other elites tbh

[agile forge]

It's got great horde clear is the main thing

HHLH combo on the IV

or apparently light spam on the XIIIg

[junior needle]

It's not apparently, 13g is all light spam

2/3 heavies have zero cleave

[agile forge]

It is apparently from my perspective since I'm going by what I've heard and not my experience, seeings as I haven't tried the XIIIg yet lol

[junior needle]

Fair

It's all light spam though, you can still light spam the 4 too

I haven't tested the difference between the heavy and light spam though

Update on the update should be coming sometime ||next week||

[last parcel]

[odd sparrow]

next week

[vernal harbor]

how i first saw that image and it killed me

(i didnt edit that)

[junior needle]

Based

[vernal harbor]

last one of that post

[vague smelt]

Ain't we at the end of the month

[junior needle]

I can only hope it was delayed to make an april fools joke

[wanton dawn]

Hope is 1st step yadaa yadaa

Also would be bad taste

[junior needle]

I suspect it was delayed to avoid getting "is this an april fools joke"

[wanton dawn]

Id laugh though

[junior needle]

Announcing our new class, ork freebooter

And space kerillian

Also here's a necron in a pirate hat

[wanton dawn]

I always laugh when i see a content drop or update and say to myself : "trainwreck"

[vague smelt]

Rip

[junior needle]

That penetration

[vague smelt]

Yeah why

Also 0/4

Well

1/4

[supple stag]

Chainsword meh

[tall torrent]

Rev atk counts as 1 hit, so u don’t get multiple procs of serrated blade

[steady stream]

thats ass

[swift ingot]

Howdy

[woeful galleon]

It is my personal belief that, if the announcement after all this really is "We made a new way to give us money in excange for nothing :)", my heart would finally thump like a bad drum and stop once and for all.

[tulip condor]

There a talent build for Agrip IAG?

[vernal harbor]

jokes and irony aside if that is the case on principle i wont touch it again and sadly probably not interact here anymore

[dawn garnet]

do you plan on adding example builds?

[tall torrent]

Smth like this

[dawn garnet]

🤔 thats legit what i already run with the two points in deadshot and field improv

[tall torrent]

Well, the tree is very heavily stacked in favour of bottom left & middle for most weapons

[woeful galleon]

Yeah, really gotta hope that's not the case. Though, while I'm never hyped for things at this point, I'm at the very least hopeful maybe it will really be just something neat. We'll just have to wait and see.

[dawn garnet]

oh also no stamina regen delay thing longshot instead

[vernal harbor]

next week

hold

[woeful galleon]

Yup

[dawn garnet]

bro had to hide the forbidden build

[tall torrent]

This is what I run

I changed mine a while ago

2 points into melee dmg

[dawn garnet]

how good is the stam delay?

[tall torrent]

I don’t think it’s gonna be a battle pass tbh

They’ve never had the capacity to push as much content required for a BP to work

[tall torrent]

Going from ogryn stam regen delay to zealot stam regen delay is hard to beat

[dawn garnet]

damn

[tulip condor]

thx every1

[tall torrent]

Veteran & Ogryn are 1s regen delay
Zealot is 0.75s
Psyker is 0.5s

[vernal harbor]

i mean we wont know, that post was an update on the an announcment that will talk about what the actual update will be

[old quail]

i quite like having both stam regen delay nodes but u also often cant really fit them if u want other stuff

since it lets you do stamina neutral/positive sprint sliding

[dawn garnet]

good ol psyker infinite block push

[tall torrent]

I plan to cover minimum 4 builds

Combat medic (plasma)
Hailstorm (infantry autogun)
Bullseye (revolver)
Scout sniper (helbore/headhunter)

[dawn garnet]

4 stealth builds rite? RIGHT?

[tall torrent]

0, actually

The talent tax for infil is absurd

[dawn garnet]

i kneel...

[tall torrent]

You basically hard lock yourself out of survivalist for infil to have a functioning build at the end

[dawn garnet]

i will keep on posting random bullshit builds on the website to further promote the guid as the only reasonable choice

[old quail]

i reject survivalist out of principle. u will have limited ammo and u will LIKE it

[dawn garnet]

were talking stealth marksman focus with braced guns

[tall torrent]

I think stealth is a decent ability and has its uses but the talent tax is just crazy

Also

[old quail]

why would u take marksman's focus with a gun that has shit finesse

[tall torrent]

Hunter’s resolve is an insane node

[hollow ibex]

Who hurt you as a child

[hollow ibex]

Which one is that again?

[vernal harbor]

p ness

[tall torrent]

50% TDR for 10s after leaving stealth

[dawn garnet]

vets who take big bags of ammo while being 5 shots shot of full

[tall torrent]

Combine with close order + iron will

U can eat a crusher overhead and not die (take 25% health dmg)

[tulip condor]

anyone who depends on survivlist aura needs to learn how to conserve ammo or learn or to share ammo found

[hollow ibex]

Ngl overlooked that one

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-link-parries-hyrule-warriors-age-of-calamity-zelda-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-gif-26473859

[old quail]

overheads have a minimum bleedthrough damage

[hollow ibex]

Imagine conserving ammo. Holy munitions are meant to be used.

[old quail]

it used to be the case you could tank them to toughness with something like unwavering focus on p12 vet but they changed this

(now you have to do it with overshield)

[dawn garnet]

the issue is if you have enough people mag dumping revolver into trash mobs the entire team is gonna be hungry for ammo at least pick up survivalist if you wanna do that

[tall torrent]

Mb, forgot melee spillover is different

[sinful palm]

Speed aura stealth vet

[tall torrent]

Sniper shot is possible to be entirely blocked with toughness tho

[old quail]

yeah

[tall torrent]

I think burster too

[dawn garnet]

like when i run braced guns if theres one vet with survivalist I can suppress the entire map

mag dump anything that moves and pick up zero ammo

[hollow ibex]

yeah pretty sure i've tanked the entirety of burster explosions with toughness

[old quail]

burster explosion damage is weird, i know you can tank it with zealot chastise if you time the ult right

[hollow ibex]

the intended use of braced guns

[tall torrent]

Without any overtoughness?

[hollow ibex]

nah with overshields

not sure what happens without lol

[tall torrent]

Yea

[tulip condor]

yeah but if you are using range to kill enemies that are easy to take out with melee without worrying about drawback from w/e situation you are in, it's the players problem for running out

[tall torrent]

Burster requires overtoughness

[tulip condor]

exactly

[tall torrent]

Sniper u can tank with base toughness if u build for it

The breakpoint is 200 toughness (usually)

[tulip condor]

then you got players who spam every item they come across, taking ammo when they have enough as is in comparison to those who are highlighted red, orange, and yellow

[hollow ibex]

yeah, it's the player's fault that they got three gunlugger ogryns that hoover up every piece of ammo on the map 👍

[tulip condor]

or even the ones who dont even bother to look for any, that on them

[sinful palm]

Build stealth mov speed and free ammo baby

[tame lodge]

Or surgical shock trooper

[sinful palm]

Joking but i came across ppl like that and its crazy cause on lower diff i dont mind but auric or so man drives me crazy

[tall torrent]

A couple key synergistic interactions will also be covered in example builds

Born leader + gloryhunter is one of them

You actually spread so much toughness that it starts to matter

Hit & run + duck & dive + deadshot is another

For IAGs

[tulip condor]

All my builds are about being self-sufficient. Too many times randoms prove to usually be unreliable

[tall torrent]

Most if not all will also try to accommodate for each weapon’s weaknesses and give u the necessary tools to fight every enemy in the game by urself

(I’m not going to recommend onslaught for IAGs)

[tulip condor]

Is onslaught effective against crushers when using IAG?

[wanton dawn]

I think its cope

[tall torrent]

Yes (but with a large point sink)

Effective as in, you’re killing crushers with like 1500~1800dps depending on crits with primarily headshots

You’re sinking the points to do that without really improving what the weapon’s actually good against (human elites & specialists)

The alternative large point sink option is deadshot + duck & dive + hit & run

Which actually boosts your DPS so much that you melt basically everything short of crushers

[tulip condor]

yea, felt like that. ill stuck to using frag bleed for CC and continue making hit n run tactics

[tall torrent]

And veteran has good anti-crusher weapons

U can run folding shovel, combat axe, power sword, etc

[tulip condor]

I got the weapons already to deal with crushers. Just trying to make a build for Agrip IAG and not having PS as a melee option (too good against everything)

[tulip condor]

got shovel great against crushers, strugglers with non stop horde events. had a situation where everyone was dead. couldnt kill horde fast enough to break cover and take out the specilists and range units

[tall torrent]

Which shovel did u use

[tulip condor]

7

[tall torrent]

Hm

Yea shovel doesn’t kill bruisers that fast

I think the main issue with the available melee options is that most of the time they’re really good vs groaners & poxwalkers but really shit vs bruisers

[tulip condor]

tough situation to be in overall. just didn't have a chance at that point. tried waiting and make an opening but just couldnt

[tall torrent]

And almost every single “horde clear” measuring contest I see just uses groaners & poxwalkers as example

When 99% the time the melee horde enemies that are actually dangerous are bruisers

[tulip condor]

I see horde as a type of cc for the player. having a weapon to horde clear breaks that cc, allowing player to have a at least a window to take out incoming specialist and elites.

If you dont have that horde clear, you dont have that window. if you dont have that window, the horde will put you in the corner while the specials and elites finish you off

[lilac kayak]

Sometimes u don't really need to horde clear if u have room to backpedal out into cleared space to deal with specialists.

[tulip condor]

Right. I was speaking more from event situation. space or cover available can be limiting

[balmy flume]

Guys I just had the most weird PUG session.
Anyone ever encountered a Zealot that…rushes ahead of the team, gets himself killed eventually, spawns a shit tonne of enemies for everyone
But then never yells at the team, but always disconnects and loads back in to resurrect himself

And then just…doesn’t extract when he is the sole survivor at the elevator?

I mean if it was trolling, it doesn’t even make sense cause…you don’t need to play through the entire mission for one troll move.

[lilac kayak]

Hmm indeed, though for me it doesn't happen often where I have to clutch during an event phase tbh. Usually there's always a decent pub in every match that can tough it out with me when everyone else is downed. Not to mention the occasional pub quitters will allow new pubs to join in if I can last for that long which isn't too hard.

[balmy flume]

Need an opinion. I can only pick one
Should I...
(A) Max out Damage to Elite?
(B) Get level 4 Deathspitter?
(C) Switch Damage to Elite to Damage to Maniacs?
(D) Get level 4 Stripped Donw?

(In case you are wondering - the 25% Flak replaced a Stamina bonus)

[tulip condor]

Ya, doesn't happen often. just bad luck sometimes. Ever since the cross platform with xbox though, it feels like it's increased. From rarely happening to not entirely uncommon

[tulip condor]

B or C in my opinion

[trim hemlock]

I wouldn’t change the blessings, they are good for what they are

Changing the other perk sounds sensible

[balmy flume]

Max Damage to Maniacs it is then, thanks!

[slow spade]

remember to bully your local sniper

[wanton dawn]

The weakspot count makes my finger feels hurt

[gray finch]

https://tenor.com/view/imperial-guard-cat-warhammer40k-gif-23254825

[hybrid token]

weak spot go BRRRRR

[balmy flume]

Ok is it genuinely the case that there are suddenly a lot more memlots running around in PUGs?

Just had another Zealot that ran ahead of the group, got himself killed, yelled at us and rage quitted…

[gray finch]

classic

[balmy flume]

I swear if these are the XBox Zealots, Master Chief has rotted their brains or something.

[gray finch]

play fastest class in the game get downed after outrunning your team "there is no shame is leaving" ...rejoin like it never happend

[balmy flume]

Ok so it isn’t just me having a weird day lol

[gray finch]

there is nothing you can do since they play in duos blocking vote or players dont see the vote in time

or dont understand that this is a expolit

if they rage quit entirely its really a blessing

[wanton dawn]

You're using an auto

I know your build, don't lie to me

[tulip condor]

reminds me of when i had a psyker on the team preach in chat about sticking together. since they were the only one going down and had 4 wounds, I responded with "sounds like you are asking for a babysitter

we laughed when they quit the match

[vernal harbor]

babytide

[tulip condor]

No one likes escort missions

[vernal harbor]

wolfer behind the camera yelling at them to look at the camera so he can send a good report to his superiors

[tawny whale]

My entire talent tree is the Voice of Command and it seems to work well

[tame lodge]

There's a mod to do so

Usually when the player gets captured, they finally leave

Cowards

[balmy flume]

It is a weird balance, but yea, the zealots I talk about run ahead pretty much half the accessible area.

I tend not to complain myself (directly on chat that is), since I do recognise that I should be able to survive on my own for at least a bit

[tulip condor]

that's what im saying! but the average mentality of players is doing w/e the hell they want and bitching if you arent covering them, following them, or w/e else dumb shit they do to screw themself or the team

i main zel. if i run far ahead, im on my own. cant expect support from mates if you out of reach

pure logic

[tawny whale]

When I play Zealot my life is melee, I accept the price to serve the Emperor

[somber axle]

Tbh it feels like there are a lot of newer players in quickplay. Zealots yeah but also Vets and Psykers too. I see a lot of people trying to run solo and getting downed repeatedly in Damnation Quickplays lately. Constantly in need of a rescue. It's kinda fun trying to play it like an escort mission but if the entire squad is all doing it then it becomes a very tricky chore trying to keep them all alive

Whole squad goes down during a crusher/mauler swarm in the middle of a horde and it's time to play single player

Just want casual fun in Damnation quickplay but joining into people who are allergic to coherency makes it a little sweaty trying to clutch out saves all the time

[sinful palm]

Too much to ask

[final stag]

Whenever I play a melee oriented build I play like a skirmisher

Get into a fray and get the fuck out. Going to far ahead is just asking for me to get incapacitated or into a bullet ridden corpse

[wanton dawn]

Imagine that: bot trigger the daemonhost, someone connect, dh redirect aggro and kill a bystander

That was such bullshit i could not believe it

[astral ingot]

Styled upon

[somber axle]

People triggering the DH has been really funny. Happened so often an Ogryn got fed up and aggro'd it on purpose to stop the Psyker from bumbling into it and tanked it down himself

[fast sundial]

good start for the unpower sword, you reckon?

[vague smelt]

I just once replaced a bot in middle of an horde, when I joined I clipped through the floor and died immediately upon spawning

[vague smelt]

Wrath sucks because resets if you fail one swing

[fast sundial]

yeah probably

i was hoping for rampage and slaughterer

[vague smelt]

No Power Cycler

[fast sundial]

yes that is the idea

[wanton dawn]

Well, hopefully the dev with do something to address shit spawn but I will not get my hopes up

[fast sundial]

i am making an unpower sword

[vague smelt]

I don't think power sword has Slaughterer

[fast sundial]

it does

[somber axle]

The slower devil claw without parry

[wanton dawn]

Yey, spawned on a bridge and got launched by explosive

[somber axle]

Sounds funny

[wanton dawn]

I love playing the game

[vague smelt]

Idk

Cleave stat kinda scares me

[wanton dawn]

cleave target does not matters on ps

[vague smelt]

Fair

[fast sundial]

yeah but it might matter for an unpower sword

[wanton dawn]

Yeah but that's called coping

[fast sundial]

let me make a meme sword in peace 😔

[vague smelt]

Go make it

[somber axle]

Hey weird question do the unpowered swings on the Power Sword 6 light attacks have a cap on cleave targets? I learned Zealot Eviscerator 15 light side swipes have a cleave cap of 4. Anything beyond 4 targets will stagger but take 0 damage

[vague smelt]

Ask Hadron to give you stamina and Groaner damage

[fast sundial]

i need more plasteel unfortunately

[somber axle]

Wonder if the Power Sword 6 has the same problem or not

[supple stag]

Sending plasteel

Hopefully noone will raid the supply

[white minnow]

nah

only very few weapons have a damage target cap in patch 13 and beyond

[somber axle]

That's good to know

Makes sense for the Evis 15 because it is just too good for moveset

[white minnow]

eh

shouldn't ever exist for a hordeclear weapon or hordeclear-adjacent weapon

chaxes? sure why not

but god i hate damage target caps

[somber axle]

I thought Evis 15 is meant to be a single target heavy hitter? But with the right build you can W+M1 your way through hordes including maulers and the occasionally crusher with the Evis 15

Will just stagger them to death while killing 4 at a time per swing

[white minnow]

it's nevertheless still part of the "2h chainsword" weapon family

[somber axle]

Very funny charging into a Crusher and one tapping them with a rev'd heavy strikedown

[white minnow]

and you can just ingrain some nonzero but low numbers into the damage distribution

instead of just setting it to zero

i don't get why you would ever agree with that when fatshark is using the damage distribution system to set in target caps

a system that can be used for more nuanced balancing anyways

[somber axle]

Might be because of the Perfect Strike build? Go crit and use light side to side swipes to carve through anything and everything. Ignore hit mass on crit and then just always crit

If it didn't have a damage cap you could just W+M1 everything always forever

[white minnow]

solution: change perfect strike or just set a small number for the 4th target and beyond

[somber axle]

You still kinda can but it doesn't evaporate instantly

[white minnow]

instead of setting it to straight up zero

[fast sundial]

hold up, does perfect strike not do what it says?

fatshark...

[white minnow]

it's 4x cleave and ignore carapace stop

description is poopoo

[supple stag]

Fatshark fashion

[white minnow]

if you know what sunder does, then perfect strike does the exact same thing but on crits

[fast sundial]

wtf

alright

[somber axle]

Fatshark is silly sometimes

[junior needle]

Not explicitly, great and simple clearer with lights with a ton of base cleave albeit a low target cap of 4

[supple stag]

savage sweep:

[junior needle]

But that's enough for 4 scab bruisers

[fast sundial]

so it's a beefed up savage sweep?

except on crit

[junior needle]

Savage sweep doesn't let you ignore carapace stops