I've never had problems oneshotting ragers in the head, but I do have a crit boi
#veteran-class
fervent quiver
tall torrent
Swap carapace to elite and that’s a godroll right there
Elite has the same crusher 2 shot breakpoints but better Crit bodyshot 1 tap consistency
wooden oar
Swap carapace to elite and that’s a godroll right there
I recall testing elite vs carapace when I played months ago and I believe carapace came out on top. Perhaps it's also my playstyle. I think a lot of people will go for body shots in situations that favor it. But I typically don't. I come from a competitive shooter background in which headshots are huge which I've been playing for 15+ years. (And Yes I'm a weirdo that alsoinvested 2000+ hours into Kovaaks if you know what it is) So it's carved into my brain to always aim for heads/weak spots.
tall torrent
I recall testing elite vs carapace when I played months ago and I believe carapa...
Yes and elite has the same crit 2 headshot breakpoint as carapace
Just superiority complex + 10% elite, you don’t even need 20% ogryn/boss dmg
high geode
Anyone have a good leveling build? Lvl 20 and im tired of using this revolver
but every other weapon ive tried feels like doodoo without blessings
tall torrent
Just superiority complex + 10% elite, you don’t even need 20% ogryn/boss dmg
Only difference is that it’s around 1890 smth vs 2100 smth
tall torrent
but every other weapon ive tried feels like doodoo without blessings
Infantry autoguns
odd sparrow
Columnus mk V in particular doesnt need blessings at all they are just icing on top
high geode
Not sure what the highest base power i can pull right now is
but ill give this a shot
runic grove
i have a boltgun with unarmoured and reload speed, what should i change?
odd sparrow
Change reload. Unarmored helps with hitting 1hit BP on dreg(yellow robe) gunners
agile forge
I recall testing elite vs carapace when I played months ago and I believe carapa...
Might help more on Maulers though, since they have flak body carapace head and generally take more damage from bodyshots
agile forge
Anyone have a good leveling build? Lvl 20 and im tired of using this revolver
Just try to make it make sense for your build. If you're running without any good armour piercing then take a krak for example
Voice of Command and Survival Aura are generally considered the easiest skills to win with for veteran
(well survival is just unambiguously best)
(but voice of command is an option that's really easy to make great use of, but don't take the revive node for it. Spam the overtoughness version of it :) )
nimble wren
Greetings. Penance for the veteran "Make every shot Count." Do I just need to shoot all the ammunition until the end of the mission, almost without missing? Can I just shoot all the bullets at the enemies at the beginning of the mission and run without them? Will the penance be completed?
final stag
Yes
agile forge
Apart from that just take shit that makes sense and experiment with stuff. If you want an easy route then if you can get your hands on a power sword which has power cycler on it you're fine til 30
final stag
PS is just turn brain off mode.
agile forge
Greetings. Penance for the veteran "Make every shot Count." Do I just need to sh...
If you regenerate ammo after that point (e.g. through vet aura), it's fine. Just don't swap back to your ranged after you deplete it.
PS isn't completely trivial tbf, you have bad dodges and have to be able to fit weapon charges into your combo
although that's easier with the VI
because of the block cancel
I think the chainsword IV is even easier honestly but it needs a good one
final stag
Still is a brain off weapon fjdjjd
If someone has the basics of the game on lock down the PS is just free hordeclear.
I am not a huge fan of it however, I like other weapons.
I run some off meta things usually
Agripinaa stub revolver for instance, run that on my exe stance big game hunter and it works better than I expected lolol.
umbral scaffold
I've taken a liking to the pickaxe shovel on vet.
final stag
Pickaxe shovel fucks
Allows me to one shot most nuisances
And has some decent horde clear, worse than the standard but it is there.
odd sparrow
PS definitely isnt brain off. But it is certainly very good, the rewards of learning its mechanics are definitely a bit on the OP side still. Being able to kill any non-monstrosity/boss in a few swings is a bit stupid
final stag
It's a dumb weapon dnndnd but it Is a power weapon so I'll let it slide for the power gamers. Now my shit shovel, good for caving in skulls.
high geode
Just try to make it make sense for your build. If you're running without any goo...
Ive already relapsed and gone back to revolver
Not investing any crafting mats until im 30
high geode
the big boom one, not speed load
agile forge
if you use one maybe try the other too
high geode
i never remember names
agile forge
Zarona is the slow reload one
final stag
Zarona is slow shot
Agri is fan fire
agile forge
The trouble with the zarona is that it's probably the worst ranged weapon for clearing trash shooters
final stag
I'm a big Agripinaa fan but it does require you to build around it, if built correctly though. It's basically just ranger veteran masterwork pistol
agile forge
but it's probably the best for elites/specials
final stag
Only downside with zarona is reloading during stressful situations. But vet has like several ways to get reload speed times a million
muted knot
Zarona is leagues better than agri sadly
final stag
If agri pierced I think it would up it's viability but yeah it simply is trumped
muted knot
I gotta be real man if I can ads a vet weapon it's a massive downside that not even cleave can fix
I don't need to shoot hordes
final stag
Doesn't mean agri isn't at all bad, I've deleted bosses and can kill a ogryn enemies faster than a zarona it's just if a teammate walks in the way smg
Smh*
I don't need a lot of cleave on the agri but at least enough to pierce an ogryn teammate and I'll be happy :,)
nimble wren
If you regenerate ammo after that point (e.g. through vet aura), it's fine. Just...
ty so much. I'll go try
final stag
Just unload into a boss
Big points if it's a beast
gray finch
agile forge
Only downside with zarona is reloading during stressful situations. But vet has ...
I love to reload during a battle! There's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver bullet into a well greased chamber.
final stag
I love to reload during a battle! There's nothing like the feeling of slamming a...
Me when I draw my revolver to kill that trapper only for my character to start reloading. I do have the zarona on my auric build simply because it is a REALLY good weapon. And the reload is sexy. I'll give it that.
light nest
so i wanted to try opening salvo on my mg12
and maybe im going crazy, but it seems as if the cooldown for the blessing is shorter when you hipfire?
is this intended?
gusty bison
Me when I draw my revolver to kill that trapper only for my character to start r...
And thats why u run weapon specialist
Never draw an empty volver
final stag
Yeah that's what I have for my auric vet build
It's nice to have a faster reload too and keep the chain of melee shoot
umbral scaffold
my theory si the new crafting system will involve melk coins
final stag
Melk money baby
gaunt delta
my theory si the new crafting system will involve melk coins
And not touch diamantine? 
classic fatshark move it would be
wanton dawn
Among the thing I can never understand, solo clutch attempt by running back to the spawn is certainly one of them...
umbral scaffold
And not touch diamantine? <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163> classic fatshark mov...
diamanten is used for crafting already but thats another theory too
final stag
Among the thing I can never understand, solo clutch attempt by running back to t...
I mean I understand backing up and changing positions for solo clutch
wanton dawn
Tactical retreat is not visiting the health station before the previous one
Oh well, I should just not die if i want to complain
agile forge
Running back after people die is a good strat at least
for the 20s before they respawn
you can stop them from spawning way behind enemy lines
wanton dawn
Yeah, not for the 5min after
Oh well, he probably got a full reset cuz everyone left so I guess it is a win ?
chilly saddle
You ever just inspect someone who has cool cosmetics assuming they will also have good gear and get pummeled with the reality that you sometimes have teammates who put infested damage on their boltgun. Bro is trying to hit pox hound breakpoints
final stag
Homie just wants to make sure poxwalkers don't stand a fucking chance
A Chad truly
final stag
I occasionally forget that I take this game a little too seriously and people play this game for fun on their off time fnnfnf
outer wolf
Is it worth building around not a single keystone?
Oh oh, someone has been visiting sites he shouldn't...
final stag
Wh
tall torrent
Is it worth building around not a single keystone?
Depends on the weapons you’re taking, generally speaking though taking at least the middle keystone is never a bad choice
outer wolf
Something like this. Is it nonsense?
tall torrent
Something like this. Is it nonsense?
What weapons are u running
outer wolf
Shovel (standard) + Zarona
gray finch
Is it worth building around not a single keystone?
yes
outer wolf
Standard shovel is also not the greatest rn
I like it because it does a great job on hordes. Not a friend of power swords for example
gray finch
but its hard dependent on your weapons choice
also i would consider going rending strike instead dmg on ogryns
elder fiber
you probs want uncanny on og shovel so that rending isn't gonna do a ton
tall torrent
Standard shovel is somewhat outperformed by Mk7 right now
elder fiber
and good zarona is gonna have hand cannon so not doing much there either
tall torrent
Probably needs a boost
elder fiber
idk its totally usable as a weapon
tall torrent
It’s usable for sure
pliant sentinel
Do not diss the power sword
elder fiber
not everything needs to be 100% perfect balance with each other (please nerf cleave on plasma and zarona lmb tho lol)
tall torrent
Giving standard shovel a leg up wouldn’t be bad tho
pliant sentinel
not everything needs to be 100% perfect balance with each other (please nerf cle...
leave the plas alone
outer wolf
Do not diss the power sword
I have a very good one but I just don't like it, feels clunky and it isn't for me
tall torrent
leave the plas alone
Now ur just baiting
tame lodge
Don't worry, when they release melta weapons they are going to change plasma to suck against armor
tall torrent
It’s not lore accurate because it doesn’t blow up enough of the time
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves
pliant sentinel
Besides that
sharp ember
“Ser, a loyalist reject squad is wreaking havoc in our metalfab!”
“I see. Loot their corpses when the poxers eat them.”
“Ser, they’re just using autoguns and shovels!”
“
”
tall torrent
And Darktide’s lore accuracy is fluid
4 morons with lasguns can blast a beast of nurgle to kingdom come
tame lodge
“Ser, a loyalist reject squad is wreaking havoc in our metalfab!”
“I see. Loot t...
While also wearing rags
elder fiber
Why doesn't the strike team get turbo covid from being near plogryn and drop dead
final stag
Wouldn't call them morons, just stupidly lucky.
tame lodge
Game vs lore purpose strikes again
elder fiber
Wouldn't call them morons, just stupidly lucky.
I would call a lot of darktide players morons, actually
final stag
I would call a lot of darktide players morons, actually
Those are rejects we are warriors.
tall torrent
Plasma needs cleave nerf on uncharged shots
final stag
Not a big fan of plasma or power sword
tall torrent
Should buff charged shots tho
tame lodge
Who am I?
pliant sentinel
Not a big fan of plasma or power sword
bait detected
final stag
I really ain't.
pliant sentinel
not everyone appreciates the adamantium lightsaber
final stag
A lot of people do
It's like the most popular weapon on vets
tame lodge
The numbers loyalist, what do they mean
tall torrent
Game balance is always more important than “lore accuracy” especially when the lore is as fluid as it can be
pliant sentinel
Game balance is always more important than “lore accuracy” especially when the l...
it was a joke you numbskull
final stag
The rejects are still impressive nonetheless.
tame lodge
Too many overpowered stuff in Warhammer lore
tall torrent
it was a joke you numbskull
Yea says the guy who put +carapace on his MG1a lasgun and called me stupid
Hard to tell tbh
pliant sentinel
Yea says the guy who put +carapace on his MG1a lasgun and called me stupid
Blud remembered old news
good for u
I corrected myself afterwards
so stfu
final stag
Hostility reigning true
tall torrent
Good for u maybe get ur stuff right the first time instead
final stag
We should cool it right guys? Don't need any party pooping
tall torrent
We should cool it right guys? Don't need any party pooping
I’m just bantering here lol I’m not serious abt it
sharp ember
my favorite headcanon is still that we have bargain-bin defect powerswords and that's why we have so many of them but they need reactivation
final stag
I’m just bantering here lol I’m not serious abt it
Don't want it to go sideways quick though fnnd
final stag
my favorite headcanon is still that we have bargain-bin defect powerswords and t...
Most of our weapons are made by an ogryn
elder fiber
my favorite headcanon is still that we have bargain-bin defect powerswords and t...
dollar store thunder hammers being outperformed by folding shovels
final stag
So we indeed get very low quality weapons
tame lodge
Also second hand
final stag
The ogryn fixes them up
Shows it in the cutscene brunt fixes them up and tosses you them
sharp ember
i imagine something like a mid-tier power sword needs an external battery connected to the hilt to stay activated
tame lodge
Backpack powered
sharp ember
while a real preem powersword just stays on by itself for commissars and the like
you don't see chaos captains having to turn theirs on, but then again theirs can be blocked by a wooden shovel if they don't do a heavy
tall torrent
They also have red plasma guns for some reason
final stag
Rejects simply better
sharp ember
Morrow absolutely has the most bonkers meta sweatlord infinite-activation power sword somewhere in his coat
elder fiber
you don't see chaos captains having to turn theirs on, but then again theirs can...
its really nice space wood dw about it
final stag
To also be fair about the rejects, didn't Cain like
1v1 a khorne berserker and win?
tall torrent
Don’t think we’re quite Cain level
For one, cain uses a 1-handed chainsword in his character art, and that chainsword is about as big as zealot’s evicerator in this game
final stag
We are still quite good at what we do plus we have an ogryn and psyker
So it isn't out the realm of possibilities
We aren't Cain level but combined we basically are
elder fiber
To also be fair about the rejects, didn't Cain like
1v1 a khorne berserker and w...
spamming shout for gold toughness obv
final stag
"THE KILLING NEVER ENDS!"
drowsy aspen
...Okay, Cain killing the space marines is kinda BS
What he actually DOES is hold them long enough for a guy with a melta to finish them off
He does it twice in the book
The first World Eater is super injured
Cain basically barely survives
I can gripe a bit about the circumstance, but its fine
frank basin
What hurt world eater?
drowsy aspen
The second time Cain basically dances around and taunts a lightly injured world eater-
...uhhhh the guy doesn't have a name
It's in Cain book 3
frank basin
Sound like distraction before world eater destroy cadia
drowsy aspen
The khornate cultists are landing and he's with the Valhallans
final stag
Still
It's a feat of itself fndnne
Cain had some massive plot armor but it is Warhammer so
drowsy aspen
...I do like the idea of Cain narrowly surviving some Chaos Marines with insane skill and good luck
And everyone interpreting that as him winning
But as it is, it's hard to imagine how a normal human could parry a world eater
frank basin
Is world eater a entity or a pirmarch?
fast sundial
Is world eater a entity or a pirmarch?
they're a khornate space marine legion
frank basin
Ah
fast sundial
anyway, why do people like knife?
after trying it i feel it is serviceable but not remarkable
last parcel
it gives +10 to your crackhead stat
frank basin
Turbo shank
fast sundial
but the damage sucketh
final stag
Hit the head
It has like a 2.5 finesse damage multiplier and more so with mercy killer
Plus I think the knife has a innate higher crit chance and good armor pen
fast sundial
not as good armor pen as actual AP weapons
and not nearly enough horde clear
not even spectacular vs ragers
i'm trying to look for reasons to run it but i find none
frank basin
I think people use knife like mercy killer and serrated blade with uncanny strike
final stag
How's your build look then
Because my knife is very effective at everything besides ragers but I have a gun for them
final stag
It also maybe just not your weapon. It may just not fit your playstyle and that's fine. Find a weapon you enjoy:)
It's kind of a poor weapon on VoC
It is way better on Infiltrate
And you might need to juggle weapon swapping to knife to continuously get buffs that's what I do to handle hordes, not just swing. Shoot into a horde the swap to knife.
potent iris
after trying it i feel it is serviceable but not remarkable
people just find it fun
you can make it do some bonkers stuff but ehhhh it's mostly about the fun factor, people like speed
final stag
It's an amazing dodge weapon
muted knot
anyway, why do people like knife?
Fuck man tell me when you find out... The biggest reason to run it is to simulate the average London experience
final stag
We do have Bri'ish accents
Ima shiv a mf
frank basin
Cadia stand!
muted knot
Cadia stands don't it mate ?
frank basin
fast sundial
It's an amazing dodge weapon
ah yes i will bring a weapon not for the murder capacity but because it makes me dance harder
frank basin
The dance machine
fast sundial
perhaps it depends on that
who knows
maybe it needs both that and riposte so you can crit
midnight totem
40k is all about style and drip
frank basin
Cadian drip
midnight totem
why else does their paint cost 5x the amount you'd pay for regular paint
frank basin
Some paint like 300k ordo docket like buying Balenciaga
fast sundial
mercy killer is a silly blessing
frank basin
Hit on head and they’ll die
fast sundial
on the followup perhaps
final stag
Most times you can simply insta kill most enemies with a headshot
final stag
It also saves a blessing slot on the knife for uncanny
fast sundial
serrated blade which does a fantastic 2% of my damage
perhaps more if we factor in the mercy killer bonuses
or perhaps not, they might be going into overkill
who honestly knows
final stag
Probably not your weapon but I do spectacular with it
fast sundial
i mean, vet is also not my class
final stag
Fair
fast sundial
but i wanted to experiment with weapon spec + revolver
frank basin
Shotgun weapon spec
final stag
I play like every class but if I had to label it
Vet
Psyker
Ogryn
Zealot
fast sundial
the revolver part is ok
final stag
Gotta juggle the knife and revolver in melee
fast sundial
but i probably should not bring a short blade to a longblade fight
final stag
Get kind of good at juggling weapons with WS
frank basin
I play like every class but if I had to label it
Vet
Psyker
Ogryn
Zealot
My character loadout like
psyker
Veteran
Ogryn
Zealot
final stag
I have like everyone level 30
And deleted character to get them to level 30 again
fast sundial
i'm just thinking if i am doing all this juggling just to make knife somewhat alright
why not just use an actual weapon
final stag
Vet is more jack of all trades archetype
They do everything well but that's it, the other archetypes do a specific thing GOOD
fast sundial
maybe agile engagement can be enough to activate combat axe silliness
final stag
I am quite the enjoyer of shovels and shivs
fast sundial
i am not at all interested in shovels
wintry cove
They’re funny
wintry cove
fr
final stag
Imagine being a traitor guard and some freak with a shovel just obliterates your squad
I used the knives for all the characters
Knife on ogryn is funny. Not his best weapon but doable with the single target combo
Knife zealot is strong af
Knife on psyker is hilariously viable with scriers gaze
Knife on vet is viable with WS Infil
fast sundial
why with infiltrate
also how come no one seems to melee? last three games i was the only one to do so
muted knot
also how come no one seems to melee? last three games i was the only one to do s...
Bad players ...
crude fiber
also how come no one seems to melee? last three games i was the only one to do s...
vet mag dumping is fun and viable with scavenger
final stag
why with infiltrate
Infiltrate has the 30% increased damage for 10s after leaving stealth, a stagger when leaving stealth and replenishes all toughness including gold toughness.
fast sundial
vet mag dumping is fun and viable with scavenger
not a vet specific question
zinc surge
heyo im pretty new to knife i heared flesh tearer and riposte + reciprocity were good for a crit build but im really not sure what perks i should run would anyone have any advice i have this partially made so far
fast sundial
Infiltrate has the 30% increased damage for 10s after leaving stealth, a stagger...
this thing?
crude fiber
not a vet specific question
even more so for ogryn, psyker and zealot not so mcuh lol
final stag
this thing?
Yeah
final stag
My bad I made a mistake
Nah it was my fault, there's so many buffs that are either 10s or 5s on vet jfnnd
Still with the increased swing speed, bleed, mercy killer and a lot of buffs turns the knife into a little blender for a few seconds but kind of have to just get used to the setting up
fast sundial
is that even worth over just having voc
still has for the emperor and clospe quarters killzone
and shorter cooldown
and also saves teammates potentially
final stag
Both can potentially save your teammates just depends on how you use infil.
Selfishly by running away? Or using it to stagger, and kill faster
fast sundial
using to stagger and kill faster sounds like voc to me
i was more referring to the over-toughness
final stag
Infiltrate also helps utility wise too for auspex, servoskull, getting someone up who got netted, pounced or downed.
Infiltrate has a lot of uses.
You can also flank gunners with it to go full aggression
Staggers gunners from shooting and forces them to run equals easy kills for the team
fast sundial
i still don't see how it does anything that voc doesn't do better
(which is sad, i want it to be a viable choice)
final stag
VoC is a great ability but you're also kind of sleeping on infiltrate. It has much better utility than VoC
I use it on my auric damn build
fast sundial
infiltrate allows you to pull off saves that are impossible by any other ability
i will grant that
even once made a setup around that with overwatch
so i can have 2 charges of "save anyone for free"
but that 1min cd is awful compared to voc
and it is even worse compared to zealot stealth
final stag
If you get the cooldown 6s ability it is trivial
And comparing it to zealot stealth is a bad idea
Both do different things under stealth. Zealot is to dish out horrendous damage on single targets and hunt bosses down
Stealth vet is utility
It's like comparing ranger bardin to shade kerillian
Both are stealth but do different things
fast sundial
comparing it to zealot stealth is perfectly acceptable
"makes you go invisible and go fast, potentially tankier"
only one of them has like a 5s cd
potentially, i should say
umbral scaffold
Slowly learning how to aim the revolver, if only it had higher zoom.
final stag
Ones an assassin the other is help the team do things.
It has a higher up time than base zealot as well
3s (6s with talent) compared to 8s
fast sundial
is this about the suppression when leaving stealth
final stag
Yeah it basically staggers enemies when leaving stealth
It's particularly good when flanking gunner/shooter groups
Stops them from beaming the team
frank basin
Guy I found mk3 knife https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/474726010320060418/1218657548261916702/IMG_0493.jpg?ex=66087649&is=65f60149&hm=dab7d52f543dac4bdf744144e398904de72c8c40e8bb92a42d3548f38203e933&
final stag
That knife is tiny compared to the one in game
frank basin
Lol
final stag
Like half the size jfjend
Still
ShAMk
frank basin
Is mark 3 knife lol
final stag
Just viscously pounce a heretic and plant that thing in their face
fast sundial
maybe it's just that i haven't used infiltrate in forever
but i don't see it
pun not intended
final stag
It is slept on. Think of it as ranger bardins stealth, it isn't a assassin ability more so a control/utility ability
VoC is a support/control
VoC is just boring to use in my opinion because everyone veteran seems to went to drill sergeant school
I have a build with it but like. I only use it if there isn't someone with it already just to fill the niche.
fast sundial
VoC is used by everyone because honestly it is the only good one
exec stance is like.. i already have the Mk I Eyeball tyvm
final stag
Exe stance is okay
I do have a build with it that deletes monstrosity and ogryns quite aggressively.
I use it frequently too because it's fun to play off meta on auric and do good
fast sundial
infiltrate is for being a contrarian and rare voice lines
which is definitely a niche
fast sundial
i use voc when i play vet
neither of the others is particularly useful for a melee focus
which i guess no one does
terse idol
infiltrate is for being a contrarian and rare voice lines
Contrarion??
It's pretty solid tbh
fast sundial
solid compared to what exactly
terse idol
If voc couldn't get reset so quick I'd dare say it's the best
Compared to VOC
Or even shroud that zealot has
fast sundial
voc staggers mass armor
final stag
Yeah Infil is a good ability just vastly overshadowed by meta pick VoC
fast sundial
zealot stealth can have almost permanent uptime
final stag
But I'm not a meta slave so I chose what feels fun to me and infil feels so fun to me.
Exec stance cowboy build does too and since I'm confident in my melee I don't need mass stagger when I can kill armor before it reaches the team
But just use what you feel comfy with
I simply enjoy Infil because it's fun to ME. And I use it effectively.
The end of the day the biggest thing I tell players is use what fits your playstyle rather than follow a meta.
terse idol
zealot stealth can have almost permanent uptime
It's certainly not a contrarion take though I'll way as much
It's certainly better than exe
terse idol
But just use what you feel comfy with
I simply enjoy Infil because it's fun to ...
Oh I ain't following a meta
But I get your point
final stag
Agripinaa stub revolver gang on top (I just want a little cleave fatshark pls)
fast sundial
Exec stance cowboy build does too and since I'm confident in my melee I don't ne...
it's not so much "needing" mass stagger as much as it is just helpful to send things to the floor
proficient in melee or not
final stag
VoC is a crutch
Use exec stance in auric maelstrom nfndnek
That was the first time I experimented with my cowboy build and it was effective until a fuCkIng PloGryN sent me flying off the ledge due to a wild spaw n.
tiny summit
VoC was a mistake
terse idol
proficient in melee or not
But then in that case infil would just be stagger but the enemies decide to go away from you
And right to your psyker
😌
final stag
Nah I understand VoC it's a good ability it's just overtuned because of the short CD
They nerfed it once ready from 100+ to 50+ and it still reigns the best ability
Infil is just cool and I always go for cool over optimization
I was after all a silly huntsman main
fast sundial
oi, which eye did you want this in?
tall torrent
Infil would be bis if voc wasn't here
It’ll be whatever is in VoC’s place
Infil’s pathing and talent tax still suck
prisma herald
i am disappointed
the commissar hat looks so lovely
but you gotta buy it through aquilas
can't even become a commissar :(
tame lodge
The one you obtain through penances will do
final locust
brothers
is it not
cosmetic change time
this shits been in the store for donkeys years
swift minnow
i agree.
final locust
i agree.
my mum does not love you more 😠
🤬
fr though
when they gonna rotate some of this crap out the store
veteran has some horrendous cosmetics on the shop rn
junior needle
There’s been a lot of horrendous cosmetics in the shop overall
Good thing I decided not to give fatshark any more money
swift minnow
like rotation's can be nice but not when the store is full of reskins. warframe is a good example
final locust
i also love how FS said "i know we gave console players enough aquilas to buy every cosmetic available, and didnt give PC players this, but for compensation, heres some ugly cosmetic items"
junior needle
Full priced reskins
Fun fact: Console players could (and did) also get those by logging into pc
final locust
the veteran outfit they gave for compensation is terrible imo
swift minnow
im still waiting for the helmet in the trailers
final locust
lmao
its in the game, just not as cosmetic for players
the AI Bot in the advanced training has it on
they do FOMO for the store except most of it is shit
swift minnow
the other thing is when will FS fix the clipping on the back of the collar
final locust
4-6 months and no missions bro im dying
i really like darktide but its hard to replay recycled missions
a couple "new maps" were just a map already in game just you start at the opposite end
prisma herald
only thing i am willing to pay for are maccabian janissaries
swift minnow
i just want mm to be fixed i dont mind the fact that heresy difficulty flips to be more impossible then damnation i just want to go in a game with more then 3 other of the same class im playing as
final locust
i would be willing to buy
some good looking outfits (im a destiny player)
for some aquilas
HOWEVER
they gotta be good looking
final locust
idk
final locust
bunch of guys wearing recycled leather and scraps from the battlefield
swift minnow
we are the rejects scrap gear would make sense but like make it scap gear of more then just 2 units
final locust
yeah but come on
final locust
lets be real
final locust
the player character is also stupidly powerful for a reject
and were part of the inquisition
imo thats hardly an excuse to not add some good looking armour sets/outfits to the store
its absurd to charge 700+ aquilas for some plain leather trousers
swift minnow
and were part of the inquisition
we are also disposable... more disposable then most troops
final locust
we are also disposable... more disposable then most troops
idk man
it just dissapoints me when they charge real money for leather scraps and rags
swift minnow
true. but i baught the game on sale and only spent $50 in the store mostly for the psyker and zelot.
im not spending anymore untill i see some major improvments. i hope the update theyre talking about will make darktide less preditory
prisma herald
like, it's tempting to spend game on the money, i really like the "stahlhelm" in the shop rn
but it's real money
do i really need the item?
barren hazel
I'm just glad they put in a Mordant Acid Dogs lookalike set.
final stag
I have expendable money so cest la vie
low yacht
I honestly hated this week's shop
tropic stratus
guys how do i play this class
swift minnow
its like i use the boldgun allot and the power sword so of im going to buy something for that
swift minnow
guys how do i play this class
vets is mostly 2 builds rn the high dps and the other gives everyone armor
junior needle
Strongly recommend shifting some points around to fit in survivalist and take shreds
terse idol
do i really need the item?
Well you gotta look at yourself and your financial situation and ask that for suure
It's all real money now a days
junior needle
Weak spot damage is also very low value on recons due to their base finesse being dogshit
kind otter
That deadshot on a recon las? gonna suck up stamina with that fire rate
junior needle
And deadshot is seemingly good but you blow through your stamina super fast with the fire rate
Yep, they don’t have a permaghosting setup either
Well, besides hit and run but uh, not as great as ghost and they need damage blessings to help salvage their poor baseline
tropic stratus
i was running survivalist but i couldn't fit in all the talents at the end
so you're sayin i can drop the 30% weakspot damage?
daring jungle
what is the best gun for a vet rn?
junior needle
what is the best gun for a vet rn?
Plasma overall and ciag if you want an automatic
daring jungle
ciag?
junior needle
i was running survivalist but i couldn't fit in all the talents at the end
Those guns are very poor ammo efficiency wise and even from a purely selfish perspective, it’s still the best aura
Columnus infantry auto gun
Highest automatic dps in the game currently
daring jungle
ok, thats the gun I normaly run
kind otter
My build, no you can't convince me to trade 10% melee damage for the 10% attack speed
final stag
There is a good point to be made about attack speed. Attack more often, get crits and more attacks in rather than overall hitting harder but if you like the 10% extra damage you do you :)
kind otter
I just love combining confirmed kill and out for blood, hardly any situation that toughness is an issue
tropic stratus
Yep, they don’t have a permaghosting setup either
what is permaghosting
junior needle
what is permaghosting
Being able to easily maintain a permanent ranged dodge state
junior needle
i'm running this right now
If you're insisting on taking deadshot then you should path through dnd at the very least for onslaught. But you need to dedicate your setup to that gimmick and they're not that great users for it.
Which means 3 +3 stam curios
junior needle
Yes, you should if you're taking deadshot
tropic stratus
i am not married to deadshot
i just wanted the crit synergy with the lasgun crits = no ammo spent
junior needle
It's a sensible idea but in practice it takes a lot of investment to even leverage it decently well given how fast it blows stam
tropic stratus
i usually just hipfire the gun
and ads vs a boss or something
but yeah i'm running a +3 stam and 2 tough curios and i'm out of stam a lot lol
elder fiber
deadshot also heavily benefits from stamina vs tagged targets in middle keystone
at least, on weapons where it's even worth taking to begin with lol
junior needle
i usually just hipfire the gun
So the hipfire is above average, but ads is near perfectly accurate when not suppressed
So you end up losing value by hipfiring in the downtime between stamina regen
Which detracts from any benefit gained from using deadshot
dull copper
ww
raw steppe
im not spending anymore untill i see some major improvments. i hope the update t...
Darktide is one of the least predatory games on the market lol
None of the microtransactions affect gameplay at all
None of tue content, ie weapons, maps, etc is gated behind paywall
junior needle
The cosmetics are very predatory though
raw steppe
I dont think they are any more predatory than anything else on the market
Look at diablo4 with their 70 dollar horse
raw steppe
I dont think having to pay for it is unfair lol
junior needle
D4 is especially egregious but that doesn't mean you should consider anything below that to be "average"
junior needle
It's a b2p game and it has less cosmetic access than f2p games
raw steppe
Would you rather have a $20-30 dlc pack
That comes with updates like the twins
Or would you rather have the cosmetic whales fund the game so everything else is free
junior needle
The twins wasn't an expansion level of content
And they're probably going to do that anyway
midnight totem
I think the issue is
junior needle
They were "discussing it internally" whether to charge for new dlc
midnight totem
As gamers, we're more like slowly boiled frogs
As we meet new and more bs ways of monetization
The older shit starts to look alright
raw steppe
Well i dont think the developers making money is fundamentally a bad thing
midnight totem
We can't be doing that
junior needle
It's not, but at the same time
raw steppe
As long as the game remains good
junior needle
It IS more predatory than other games that are even f2p
raw steppe
I don't think so
junior needle
Just because it isn't the most money grubbing doesn't mean it's not bad
midnight totem
Warframe
raw steppe
Warframe works too
I think warframes monetization is way worse
Than dt
Because it connects to the gameplay
You have to wait 3 days
To build shit iirc?
Unless you pay to skip
junior needle
leeg is f2p and you can get free skins from it
midnight totem
you can also get cancer from league
raw steppe
Fully random tho
midnight totem
it balances out
junior needle
Better than literally nothing
raw steppe
If you want a specific one
Idk i think leagues monetization is about the same as dt imo
Expensive cosmetics that dont afect gameplay
I think thats a win
midnight totem
Anyway Warframe has the ability to trade for its prem currency
raw steppe
Yeah
Its accessible
But i think the system is findamentally worse
Cuz its premium currency that does affect gameplay
junior needle
Yeah nah, you can actually get skins for free with leeg from playing the game
raw steppe
Yes
Fully random though
So you still need to pay for skins you want
But at its core
I think its a good system
junior needle
You can just get the skins you want eventually
raw steppe
Expensive mtx that doesnt affect gameplay
junior needle
You can even get some stuff to wear in the meantime, assuming the things you want are loaded on the ass end
raw steppe
You can just get the skins you want eventually
You need the shard which is random
junior needle
There are people here in the discord like over 1000 hours in darktide or more
raw steppe
Yeah but who cares about cosmetics lol
junior needle
I've played league, you can get a lot of free stuff
junior needle
Uh huh, but again we're talking about predatory monetization
junior needle
Even in similar games with the same kind of "buy skins" approach
raw steppe
Its purely cosmetic
junior needle
It doesn't have to be p2w to be predatory
raw steppe
If you were coerced to buy it
junior needle
raw steppe
Like wait 3 days or buy it
To skip
Or "this armor gives u 10% more hp"
Or "you have to grind or you can buy this battlepass to skip"
That's what i consider pred
junior needle
You have a very different definition from other people
Being predatory is how you motivate people to buy it, not necessarily it's content
Although you can make it extra scummy by making it p2w
And then fomo garbage in addition to it
raw steppe
I dont think motivating people to buy content is predatory lol
junior needle
For this, all fomo-ing the shop does is make it harder for people to get what they want to try and encourage splurge spending
raw steppe
Like if a game releases a dlc with very good content
junior needle
junior needle
That's an entirely different context
raw steppe
You're motivating people to buy it cuz it has good content
Whether it is good mtx or good gameplay
junior needle
You're changing the topic to something else every time I try to point it out
raw steppe
I agree with you that the rotating shop is predatory
junior needle
raw steppe
But i dont think the fundamental premise of having a cosmetic store with expensive skins is predatory
Especially when it doesnt affect gameplay at all
junior needle
No it's not, that's not what I'm saying
But I should expect in a b2p game, there would be a means of earning "premium" currency
raw steppe
Yeah i think the game should prob be f2p at this point lol
Especually since its already on gamepass
unkempt island
Did they ever fix the exhilerating takedown bug
hybrid torrent
Did they ever fix the exhilerating takedown bug
Yes they did.
unkempt island
okay thanks
junior needle
Paying for the game and then getting this kind of service and you can't even earn the "premium" stuff
Rubs me the wrong way
Not even a scrap
raw steppe
Fair
I guess if they gave chests a small chance like 0.1% chance to spawn 3-5 aquilas
It'd prob feel much better
hybrid torrent
But i dont think the fundamental premise of having a cosmetic store with expensi...
Im suprised fatshark hasnt released cosmetic bundles for this game like in vt2. Maybe once theres a fifth class/archetype in game.
raw steppe
Theyre swedish lol
They take vacation like 8 months out of a year
So its gonna be a while before 5th class
Or cosmetic bundles
hybrid torrent
Kruber grenade launcher will come out b4 darktide gets a 5th class
tall torrent
So its gonna be a while before 5th class
Not sure if they'll even do a 5th class tbh
how would they even go about subclass additions to what we have rn
hybrid torrent
how would they even go about subclass additions to what we have rn
Beastman convict class maybe?
junior needle
Very unlikely to get a beastman considering they’re just shy of being outright classed as mutants in current year 40k
They aren’t even allowed in the guard anymore
And especially prone to chaos corruption
I’d say they’re likely to do a 5th class before we start getting subclass additions
A tech adept/servitor/skitarii is highly anticipated
tall torrent
Beastman convict class maybe?
We prob have a higher chance getting a blank as a 5th reject who debuffs allied psykers into oblivion than a beastman
hybrid torrent
My idea about beastman class comes from this. Idk if this is indicative of a chaos-touched fifth class, or perhaps this idea has been scrapped already
tall torrent
That insignia looks more indicative of some future mode than a 5th class tbh
Orthus offensive had 3 insignias each with more stuff than the last
hybrid torrent
Probably that, but I like to huff hopium sometimes.
junior needle
Considering that’s the chaos star on that
I doubt it’d be anything for the rejects
low yacht
Stealth Revolver Build has been fun
I don't usually run stealth but revolver freshens it up
junior needle
I know inquisitors can get pretty radical but having a class walking around that’s actively displaying the star of chaos is a bit much
low yacht
Who.
tall torrent
I know inquisitors can get pretty radical but having a class walking around that...
Rannick would just flex his Zarona skin again
low yacht
Give me it
junior needle
And if we're going that route it might be a daemonhost class
final stone
I know inquisitors can get pretty radical but having a class walking around that...
you rang?
it's a half star of chaos
so obviously it's an iron cross aura halo thing
totally legit, empra-sanctioned
frank basin
Iron halo like only specialist high rank member can wear it
final stone
yep, SM captains and quistors and the like
and me, apparently
because I have access to the vanishingly rare and valuable commodity american greenbacks
final stone
yeah actual halos are no joke
if you've seen the space marine shorts, the psykers the SMs fight have something akin to them
junior needle
Psykers have psychic hoods, which are a different thing
Librarians have prominent ones, but even regular psykers wear them
final stone
oh I just meant visually in the context of the film
IN CAYS SUMMA YEW LAFFINSTOKS AINT SEENT IT YET
frank basin
What are you speaking?
midnight totem
pretty sure those aren't actual iron halos in Astartes
tame lodge
"laughingstocks" good one
final stone
also!
since I just saw it in the related vids and hadn't seen it before
touches on the angels and the black rage
8.5/10
how these guys and gals make such kickass shorts with essentially nothing more than dawn of war models and animations is completely beyond me
frank basin
Never got into these kind lore
last parcel
double the recon, double the ammo consumption
frank basin
double the recon, double the ammo consumption <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207...
P90 bros
zealous wyvern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhYaJ6Df_04
oh my god what is that. ive never seen this one and its really good
from when is this
that isnt part of the normal blood angels thing right? the black/white and red themed one
i dont remember that one looking even remotely as good as this and they fight tyranids in that one (gsc)
last parcel
the recon brethren have taken over auric5 tonight
midnight totem
I was making my recon build work earlier in high int damnation
Or maybe it was just because voc is op
cloud falcon
Is Power Sword still meta? Am I bad if I wanna use Chainsword?
split sapphire
Power sword when built right can 1 shot most special and/or elites if you have brutal momentum with a melee build, chainsword can really put the hurt on maniacs especially mutants, and can help chew through heavy armor with it's special eviscerate ability
tall torrent
Is Power Sword still meta? Am I bad if I wanna use Chainsword?
Yes
No
cloud falcon
tyvm
junior needle
I was making my recon build work earlier in high int damnation
As long as you're taking voc you're useful to the team, especially with survivalist.
I'd say that's more the build working despite you using it
midnight totem
haha, it was indeed probably just survivalist and voc together
sleek garden
a few days ago i had the ultimate exectutors stance mg lasgun moment
that long train tunnel to the final water reservoir area to purge the water tanks of the plague
absolutely full of gunners and shooters of every kind
midnight totem
I think I'm gonna put together a tech adept class dossier
Fatshark plz read when I'm done and hire me
wintry cove
show
last parcel
midnight totem
So far, just got a visual thing, and the Auras laid out
midnight totem
Tech Adept
The Tech Adept features a custom "backpack" with a mechanical "arm" coming out of it. The arm features two bits on it that are visually different according to which blitz and ability the Tech Adept has. Maybe even a specific color glow according to what aura too.
Auras
Chant of Bionic Endurance - Aura that grants 10 percent block efficiency.
Catechism of Consecrated Wargear - Aura that grants 10 percent block efficiency and 10 percent sprint efficiency. Upgrade to Catechism of Bionic Endurance
Praise of the Motive Force - Aura that grants 1 full stamina bar.
Stratagem of Binharic Offense - Aura that grants 5 percent Rending.
last parcel
final stone
oh my god what is that. ive never seen this one and its really good
no idea, I just happened across it when I went to link the astartes project here
final stone
Tech Adept
The Tech Adept features a custom "backpack" with a mechanical "arm"...
AH'D LUV ME A POCKITT SHOOTY WOT ELPS ME OLD BACK TH TIYDE
AH'D EVEN PROM- PRUMM- KEEP MUH WERD TA NOT EAT IM WHEN E DIES
junior needle
**Auras**
Chant of Bionic Endurance - Aura that grants 10 percent block efficie...
Probably the worst auras in the game apart from rending, with rending having varying usefulness
Even ogryns melee heavy damage is at least particularly useful for the builds that take it
Loner as well has some niche in usefulness even if it's purely selfish
I would like mechanical arms for the tech adept that attack independently though
frank basin
10 out of fragging 10
umbral scaffold
Karking Heretic killer out of 10
vale ledge
There’s actually some weight in the swing lmao
I could genuinely hurt someone with this kind of power……
I have a sudden urge to join the fight in Ukraine and clobber someone with this…..
frank basin
That’s the spot
zealous wyvern
oh wow it has the antitank feature
lyric dock
Be a nice Shovel
lyric dock
You love to see it!
fast sundial
made another
i am now very officially out of plasteel
i guess that is what i get for fully rolling these
agile forge
Is Power Sword still meta? Am I bad if I wanna use Chainsword?
If you've got a different weapon to answer crushers with, I really like the chainsword
The IV at least
horde clear seems better than the power sword's
at least with my shitty power cycler 3
lyric dock
Bright side. This one can be saved somewhat
midnight totem
Probably the worst auras in the game apart from rending, with rending having var...
Perfect. I was absolutely going for useless Auras xD
wanton dawn
Aura of sigvald. Allies gain 2% thoughness/s when looking at you 
lyric dock
Aura of sigvald. Allies gain 2% thoughness/s when looking at you <:chadgryn:1161...
Make it a Ogryn aura and you get yourself a meta Aura 
copper barn
Bruh I hate it when the bot triggers the DH.
copper barn
Not when it ends the run two minutes in lol.
Jumped in a quick play with bots.
As soon as we walked into a room with five crushers the DH gets pissed off and I get corrupted because it brings it near me.
lyric dock
Not when it ends the run two minutes in lol.
Rather have a run die early than late
copper barn
I rather the run not fail at all. Everyone else joined in as we got swarmed.
The real kicker is the server ate shit and I was just booted out anyways.
Making the endeavor pointless.
lyric dock
I prefer a run to survive, but sometimes the director will say "Die"
cloud falcon
If you've got a different weapon to answer crushers with, I really like the chai...
Plasma actually, so that feels good
agile forge
Plasma actually, so that feels good
Yeah that's how i do it too
copper barn
I need to make a good chainsword.
Just missing rampage but Hadron for whatever reason hates me.
gray finch
that some luck
fast sundial
tried out chainaxe today
it kills elites with alarming efficiency
everything else notsomuch
old apex
finally got make every shot count
emperor bless the two ogryns who covered me and the veteran who sniped my marks
lyric dock
Congrats
dawn garnet
🤔 cant you just cheese it by dying then shooting a few shots and switching to melee?
lyric dock
Doesn't work like that
You have to end the mission with 90%+ accuracy and firing every shot (Note: Emptying your gun and never switching back to it if there is a Survivalist vet still counts)
old apex
They patched out all the cheese methods iirc so you have to do it legit
lyric dock
I won't fault many vets if that is their last challenge they have to do
sinful jacinth
Anyone know what the max penance points are?
Feels like I'm getting less for the last few penances left.
dire olive
There's still a slight way to cheese
Jump off a cliff
Respawn with half your ammo already gone
balmy flume
Either my skills are degrading rapidly
Or the director AI seems to be a bit more…dickish…lately
elder fiber
Its the former, you should seek medical attention
old apex
its the latter, the director should seek medical attention
wanton dawn
It is both, both of you should seek medical attention
balmy flume
Also how do people hit snipers with Brauto :/
last parcel
accuracy through volume
balmy flume
Fair, it’s just I have been outsniped once or twice..though it is also due to me in a horde.
Kinda miss ADS from AIAG
last parcel
if it was a zealot, they might've been using the talent that gives -75% spread on dodge
wanton dawn
agri brauto has a pretty accurate hipfire
elder fiber
Also how do people hit snipers with Brauto :/
Single tap lmb, crouching helps
white minnow
yeah, brauto has the tightest spread when crouched and braced
frank basin
Snipping across map to kill sniper
cloud falcon
Thoughts on Weapon Specialist keystone? The swapping one
tall torrent
Thoughts on Weapon Specialist keystone? The swapping one
Strong with partial reload weapons
sinful palm
Also how do people hit snipers with Brauto :/
Pretty simple . Crouch and mag dump . From 40 50 bullets 2 for sure is gonna hit
cloud falcon
Seems like it goes okay with plasma if you don't bother with the reload nodes. Good swap speed, could always use more ammo loaded. Seems good
Coming to vet as a zealot main so I like lots of melee anyway
final stag
Thoughts on Weapon Specialist keystone? The swapping one
Juggle weapons that have a quick draw in melee for the most bang for your buck
tall torrent
Seems like it goes okay with plasma if you don't bother with the reload nodes. ...
Plasma generally goes better with left & middle trees
wanton dawn
Plasma goes well with eveey build
final stag
Plasma just good
tall torrent
any new cosmetics in the store?
Next Thursday
balmy flume
Switched back to Agri IAG
Much as I appreciate the power behind Brautos I just…somehow tend to do a bit better with an IAG lol
hollow ibex
the secret to braced iag is just holding down the lmb the entire match
junior needle
Iag's have more potential dps with headshots and also don't suck with accuracy
So engaging things at range leads to less of a sharp performance loss
Ciag is also very overtuned
balmy flume
Right now using AIAG but yea, need a CIAG at some point
final locust
Next Thursday
bruh they have been on the current rotation for too long
i think it should be weekly
elder fiber
It shouldn't be a rotating fomo store to begin with
tall torrent
bruh they have been on the current rotation for too long
It rotates every 2 weeks
final locust
It rotates every 2 weeks
yeah I know, it just feels that way
fomo store sucks
i feel like the better stuff would just sell more
tall torrent
Yea
junior needle
How else are they going to sell spending addicts low quality garbage if they keep the good stuff around all the time
lean bloom
Whats the best melee weapon for veteran?
tall torrent
Whats the best melee weapon for veteran?
Depends on what ur looking for
crude fiber
Whats the best melee weapon for veteran?
God roll Rashad combat axe, good roll mk6 powersword, any of the devil claws if you use helbor for bigger targets. Either knife would be good since mobility is survivability
tall torrent
Personally, top 3 are
Mk2 combat axe
Mk6 power sword
Mk7 sapper shovel
junior needle
Knives have middling horde clear just fyi
lean bloom
I just made this one
tall torrent
I just made this one
Not very good unfortunately
Mk7 shovel needs uncanny strike + thrust + carapace perk
fast sundial
Knives have middling horde clear just fyi
could've fooled me, i thought it was negative
stone adder
is this good?
dawn garnet
thats a very nice voidstrike staff
stone adder
thanks i grew it myself
tall torrent
is this good?
Volatile is not great
stone adder
with what could i replace it with?
odd sparrow
Id keep it as is for now none of your blessings/perks are so bad that they have to be changed so you might need to play with it for a bit to see what it needs
Itll likely need flak dmg tho since your base dmg is low to 1hit flak gunners
stone adder
i'll try it
lyric dock
is this good?
Decent blessings, Solid Perks, Ouch on the Damage
But it is usable out of the box
stone adder
so is this at least decent?
lyric dock
Can probably move some points around
Such as moving from Kraks to Frags. Plasma can easily deal with Crushers with no real issues
Frags helps with Swarms, do solid CC and clear some space for revives if your Stealth is on cool down
You really don't need onslaught at all with the Plasma (I'm assuming you're using it)
stone adder
yea i am
lyric dock
You don't need 3 points to onslaught at all
potent iris
yea you can swap out those points for sure
potent iris
but they're kraked
shy maple
the only thing they are really "great" at is oneshotting a bulwark
their aoe sucks and in every situation where your gun wont help you the shredders are just much better
especially with grenade regen from demolition team
sinful jacinth
Smoke grenades is where its at right?
winter grove
That's cold ass take
shy maple
i often get front for that take thats why lol
lyric dock
so is this at least decent?
Iron will is a great skill to grab as you get insane amount of TDR as you maintain high toughness which for a Vet is generally easy to do
winter grove
i often get front for that take thats why lol
Shredder grenades is the most common taken grenade
For it's crowd control
tall torrent
so is this at least decent?
Usually, no
winter grove
Smoke and Kraks are niche
shy maple
is this good?
change volatile for blaze away
tame lodge
Can't be "in general" because bosses exist
shy maple
nah if you cant deal with bosses without kraks thats a player issue
stone adder
Iron will is a great skill to grab as you get insane amount of TDR as you mainta...
what about out for blood? since i have the points for that too now
tall torrent
what about out for blood? since i have the points for that too now
What weapons are you trying to use
stone adder
plazma and a chain axe leme get what spacfic one
sinful jacinth
I guess you are only dealing with heavys?
tall torrent
What difficulty are you mainly playing rn
stone adder
shy maple
man fkn hadron bricked another gun i crafted
stone adder
What difficulty are you mainly playing rn
herecy when am alone and dam when i play with a friend
sinful jacinth
man fkn hadron bricked another gun i crafted
Pray more to the Omnissiah.
winter grove
Chainaxes have cleave?
tame lodge
nah if you cant deal with bosses without kraks thats a player issue
Nah I don't like how "player issue" is used, because that can be used to justify krak
sinful jacinth
Or just not craft tell new crafting overhaul.
tall torrent
This is really not that great
tall torrent
Chainaxes have cleave?
Low cleave
tame lodge
Nah I don't like how "player issue" is used, because that can be used to justify...
Bad at Krak, player issue ...and on and on
stone adder
This is really not that great
i know :(
winter grove
I used kraks for my stealth vet because point cost
Plus I got 3 of them
Smokes could be more economic but I'd lose probably the only reliable crusher killer on the build
shy maple
rip
tall torrent
rip
This is salvageable
Shattering -> gets hot
Unarmored -> elite
That’s a perfectly fine plasma
shy maple
not getting blaze away is pretty cringe
tall torrent
Gloryhunter is pretty strong for plasma
shy maple
maybe with executioner
tall torrent
Not really
shy maple
otherwise theres no point
tall torrent
It’s just a strong blessing all around
tall torrent
Blaze away doesn’t really change breakpoints for a lot of enemies
junior needle
Yeah blaze isn't consistent for breakpoints, it's mostly extra cleave when spamming
tall torrent
But hitting carapace just blocks cleave anyways
Against stuff u can cleave blaze away doesn’t really give u notable breakpoints
junior needle
Cursed reddit loadouts
void rampart
I see those headhunter guns with those rolls all the time
junior needle
Causes me physical pain to look at all the gooby loadouts people are taking in aurics
void rampart
fixable? I was thinking about turning it into a corny flechette shotgun
shy maple
headhunter guns need a rework or something
theres just no real point in playing them over the other available options unless you are role playing
elder fiber
I agree buff vraks 7
tall torrent
fixable? I was thinking about turning it into a corny flechette shotgun
3/4 bricked, I’d just sell/harvest
shy maple
same with recons and braced autos
junior needle
Vraks 3 and 7 are good, just overshadowed by plasma
elder fiber
I should get 4+ ammo after 1 tapping with it instead of 1
junior needle
Agri HH definitely needs adjustment because it's just worse than the other two
elder fiber
agri hh def needs fixing, it still has wonky recoil and sometimes only shoots once b/c fatshark forgot its in the game
remember launch vraks 3 with the ripper level recoil lmao
junior needle
Brautos could use some actually not shit spread when braced, but their dps is usually pretty great (columnus brauto is the worst though)
shy maple
its the same with the aggrippina autogun 1 or something just a bad weapon with bad ammo efficiency
tame lodge
Why pick Vraks 7 if hellbore does it better
shy maple
got a really really good one its just not worth it though
junior needle
Agri IAG is about the same dps as the graia iag
elder fiber
Why pick Vraks 7 if hellbore does it better
doesn't have a wack ass swap time
junior needle
They're also overshadowed by the ciag
tame lodge
Good point
shy maple
its like the same with laserpistols
potent iris
doesn't have a wack ass swap time
professional soldier struggles to find the on-switch
tame lodge
doesn't have a wack ass swap time
This one
shy maple
cause especially in high density crowd situations most of these special snowflake 1 hit weapons just suck ass
elder fiber
Laspistol have decent ammo efficiency, good lmb and work well with crit builds
junior needle
Laspistols are premiere headclickers, like the knife equivalent of ranged weapons
shy maple
idk i never ever have issues with ammo
junior needle
Their dps is pretty good but high requirement for aim
shy maple
its pretty mcuh impossible with survivalist
elder fiber
I mean they have good ammo efficiency on classes not running the most bloated aura in the game too lol
junior needle
Eh, laspistol ammo efficiency isn't exactly a strong suit. They're much weaker on that end than infantry lasguns
tame lodge
I need to play more with the heavy pistol
shy maple
yeah but everytihng they can do the lasrifle / plasma or evel revolver does better
thats the issue
unless you are role playing theres just no need for other weapons sadly
or rather a justification
elder fiber
nah laspistols don't suffer from suppression like las rifles
tall torrent
yeah but everytihng they can do the lasrifle / plasma or evel revolver does bett...
Plasma & revolver yes
Other lasguns no
elder fiber
better hipfire and swap time
junior needle
Revolver/plasma/ciag are definitely above average
shy maple
the pistols got more mobility and stuff but idk
and even the revolver is kinda ass vs big spawns
i often feel like all these sniper esque weapons just fail in this type of game / horde shooters
junior needle
Single shot weapons are generally doing better than automatics
elder fiber
idk I have a relatively high tolerance for mediocre guns in this game but vraks7 in its current iteration always does great for me
elder fiber
I need to play more with the heavy pistol
I recently made a crusty MF build with new laspistol, I'm not gonna pretend its amazing but I'm having a good time with it
shy maple
i try to love my pretty much godroll recon las guns
but sadly they are all just trash x)
even with executioner they just tickle
tall torrent
Recon lasguns are overall undertuned
Most semi auto weapons in this game are pretty good
shy maple
they are good for role playing atleast
tall torrent
Plasma, revolver and mk5 IAG are overtuned
elder fiber
yeah they're on the low end and even then they're better than agri hh
tall torrent
rather the other weapons are undertuned
Most of them really aren’t
elder fiber
no I'm pretty sure plasma lmb that doesn't even fucking overheat probably doesn't need to cleave 6 ragers or w/e
shy maple
rather buff the weaker ones than nerf the strong guns
tall torrent
Plasma, revolver and mk5 IAG all need nerfs no question
elder fiber
I love buffs but at some point you're just cycling in another ciag
tall torrent
Doesn’t have to be strict dmg nerfs
junior needle
Plasma is a bit too easy currently in the hands of a good player
elder fiber
yeah like revolver was ass for so long, just hit the cleave a bit
junior needle
Other things definitely do need buffs though
elder fiber
plasma just needs lmb wacked
junior needle
(Recons, autopistol)
elder fiber
yeah bring back old shredder, fuck it imo
shy maple
problem being that the other classes are just much better at dealing damage then in comparison lol
elder fiber
well, old but not launch shredder
tall torrent
problem being that the other classes are just much better at dealing damage then...
Not really?