veteran-class

[final locust]

that the cadian one?

be nice if you could at least change your voice bro

[umbral scaffold]

it's Karl The Deranged, cannot go wrong with him

[hollow ibex]

Small indie company please understand

[final locust]

sorry i forgot

praying for the malnourished FS employees 🙏

i get he yaps about cadia but god damn

im tired of this northern english voice

no offence to any northerners here

[final locust]

wheres this fit in game bro

[hollow ibex]

Cash shop as “premium” cosmetics

[void rampart]

Do stats like damage / finesse / first target affect bleed damage?

[final locust]

did you found space bro

[junior needle]

Nope, although +armor type perks can affect it last I checked. I can check again

[void rampart]

cheers, got a knife mainly for bleed spam but I think stats has it bricked since they're mid across the board

[hollow ibex]

Yeah not great

[junior needle]

Yeah not great, but salvageable. One issue is that vet is just not as good at using flesh tearer compared to zealot, which can get ez crit chance in larger quantities and more on demand.

Salvageable as a stopgap that is

[void rampart]

So this one has no practical use outside of ripping flesh tearer off?

[junior needle]

It's not unusable but obviously you can do better.

You could trade smackdown for uncanny and elites for unarmored or carapace. But obviously fish for one with better stats.

I'd personally not recommend a flesh tearer setup for vet. That's a ripper for it eventually though.

[void rampart]

cheers, I will keep an eye out

[junior needle]

Yeah +armor type perks still affect bleed

[void rampart]

I'll play around with it for a bit n see, I usually stick to Rashad or Chainsword on Vet

[junior needle]

Just keep in mind before rolling for knives that mk3 is objectively better for light spam due to having the same cleave values, but one of the attacks in the chain just does more damage. Mk6 is for horizontal heavy spam/weaving and gets a slight edge on clear but not much.

[wary plume]

Id rather have the melta

Or perhaps both

[final locust]

yeah its just a funny imperial guard regimental outfit

Man I really wanna change my dudes voice

why wont they allow it 😢

[void rampart]

Yea I have these sorted nicely on my zealot

the mk3 at least, keep rolling bum mk6 s

[dusty nacelle]

Do achievements where you aren't allowed to take damage apply to toughness damage too, or only health damage?

like on overwatch

[tall torrent]

Which achievement

On Overwatch allows toughness dmg

Just not health Dmg

[dusty nacelle]

I was thinking just overwatch cuz the other one specifies health damage i think so i just wanted to make sure

Also a quesiton about focus targets

If you ping a target with max stacks and then accidentally re-ping them at min stacks does it replace the first debuff with the lower one?

[gentle maple]

Holy just got the winged duty trinket without even thinking about it in Auric Dam

[tall torrent]

You can only overwrite if you hold more stacks than the tagged enemy does

[final locust]

ya know one thing i love about this game

that veteran helmet with the goggles and gas mask in the artwork

isnt just in the artwork

the bot has it in the advanced training

[shadow aurora]

Isnt that one in game though?

Or am I thinking of a different one

[tiny summit]

We get a dirty version. The bot has the clean one with the emblem on it. The one on the title screen

[shadow aurora]

Ah. They said something about touching up penances for next update so i could see them getting added as rewards

All vague shit though so who knows

[final locust]

the bot in advanced training is in the game i suppose

theres a model of it at last on various NPC's and bots

tbh I just want them to add a bit more on the character recreation menu

[umbral scaffold]

DON'T USE SMOKE

[final locust]

so i can change my characters voice bro

[final stag]

I want them to add other bots rather than just veterans who die immediately

[tame lodge]

And why the bots have heavy sword

The bots are better at dodging than most players

[final stag]

I've seen players refuse to dodge
It's impressive

[agile forge]

Smoke is good though. If everyone's PC can handle them.

[final stag]

Smoke is okay if your team can't handle ranged fire or saving someone out in the open getting plowed by gunners and snipers

[umbral scaffold]

go fuck yourselves

[agile forge]

Tbf that's a good argument

[umbral scaffold]

smoke block vison for everyone

[agile forge]

But only because I was planning on doing that anyway

[umbral scaffold]

it's retared to use them

[final locust]

ngl

idk why you wouldn't dodge

the ability to have a big tough enemy do literally no damage to you

i have solution to ranged enemies

bullet and grenade

[tiny summit]

Don't listen brothers. Join Operation Hotbox

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-fuck-you-middle-finger-middle-finger-gif-15294280

[tame lodge]

You don't know the tech

Skill issue

[tiny summit]

Smokes good. Fucks with specialists, no HP to deal with ranged fire, reapers lose object permanence

[umbral scaffold]

pls....skill...in darktide, it's like to speak of oxygen on mars....it doesn't exists. nor is required

[tiny summit]

Then blocking vision shouldn't be an issue

[tame lodge]

Aight, you angy, come back when you've cooled down

And can actually think

[final locust]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

yeah

i dont use smoke grenades

[final stag]

Whenever I have smoke grenades I make sure to bring exe stance with highlight for teammates

At least be reasonably useful for the team if I'm running exe and smoke fjnrnr

[tame lodge]

You can play at the edges of the smoke, just watch the buff bar to know if you're in the smoke

[winter grove]

Sicario payday 2 gameplay

[tame lodge]

Lmao

[umbral scaffold]

WHY i have to play at the edge of things while i can play like a person with a normal brain...or above average brain??????????

[final stag]

Sangre

[tall torrent]

Seems like u have no idea how smoke works

[umbral scaffold]

wtf of an argument is that?

[tame lodge]

Why play normal or average when you can play smart

Also not an argument just info

[umbral scaffold]

seems like they are pointeless since mage barriers exists....

[tiny summit]

Smoke is 15/30s of just being invisible to ranged enemies

[winter grove]

Why play smart when you can grab dclaw

[final stag]

If I have smoke grenades by the god emperors will ill use it

[tame lodge]

Parry those bullets

[umbral scaffold]

and.....?

[tall torrent]

Barrier has 40s cooldown and can get destroyed, smoke cannot, and disrupts enemy aggro

[final stag]

Psyker barrier is a special which they have to wait for and has durability and you need a psyker who has it

[umbral scaffold]

and....?

[tall torrent]

Barrier has cast range

[tiny summit]

Psyker shields have hp and die. Smokes dont

[winter grove]

Honestly with the build I use

[umbral scaffold]

and.....?

[winter grove]

I am practically immune

[tiny summit]

How rude should I be to this kind of response?

[winter grove]

To bullets

[tall torrent]

Oh so ur just ignorant or baiting

[final stag]

Do it

[tall torrent]

lol ok

[tiny summit]

Nah I don't want to be banned

[gilded wraith]

Recommendations?

[final stag]

Ughhg

[tame lodge]

C'mon don't think that I have weird argument and then hit us with "and?"

It makes you look bad

[umbral scaffold]

and.....?

[winter grove]

Swap pox dmg to maniac/unyielding and possibly swap glroyhunter for surgical

[tame lodge]

As I said, come back when you have cooled down

[tall torrent]

He’s just baiting lmao

[final stag]

Gave him actual explanations and he's hitting the and 😔

[gilded wraith]

Thanks, haven't tried Surgical on one before.

[tiny summit]

Bait or...

[umbral scaffold]

it's a bad blitz c'mon say it.....it's ok having a bad blitz in a class...

[winter grove]

Bait or mental illness

Your call

[tall torrent]

Idk man it seems like u have no idea how it functions, so you don’t really qualify to judge

[tame lodge]

He is now, to protect the bad take

[final stag]

All of veterans blitz are pretty mid besides shredders

But so are zealots, a throwing knife is mid and the stunstorm is okay

Doesn't stop me from using them all because I can build around them

[tall torrent]

That’s where we disagree, all 3 zealots blitzes are pretty good

[umbral scaffold]

it's annoying, and there's better options that do the same thing

[late hatch]

Throwing knives are great if you can aim. Instantly headshot specialist and elites and a good range.

[winter grove]

Nah, zealot blitzes are all nice

[tall torrent]

Again, u don’t know how it functions so I don’t rly wanna bother arguing with u

[tame lodge]

Not in the vet kit

[final stag]

I don't really vibe with the throwing knife

[winter grove]

You either stun literally anything, burn everything or have an option to one kill specialists on demand

[tall torrent]

They’re unorthodox but pairing with with Boltgun / flamer can be really impactful

[tiny summit]

Maybe don't be sensitive. If pubs are an example providing lemmings with 15/30s of no ranged dmg I say it's pretty useful

[umbral scaffold]

knife is top can one shot ragers

[final stag]

Might have to try it

[late hatch]

Arent you a controller player though? Or wrong person?

[final stag]

I know

[final stag]

I am sadly.

[winter grove]

Here's my subjective argument why all vet blitz are good

They're free

[late hatch]

See theres your problem with knives

[final stag]

And since I play this game too much my controller is getting hard-core stick drift

[tiny summit]

Kraks are my least favorite

[gilded wraith]

Final product... couldn't resist the Carapace, but I'll play around with Unyielding also.

[winter grove]

You lose nothing if you got a grenade regn talent

[final stag]

Truth

[tiny summit]

Twinned Smokes my beloved

[final stag]

Meme build grenadier
4 grenades
Free grenade every 60s or if you or a teammate gets a kill
20% for two grenades
Add some 10% rending

Such a silly build but it's funny

[tiny summit]

Vet always had a keystone. It was just the grenade talents spread throughout the tree

[final stag]

Have a grenade
Have another one
Have one more!

[tall torrent]

25/30 (5 points left for u to decide what u want)
Boltgun + melee of ur choice

[tiny summit]

4 Vets w/ Kraks against a chaos spawn is funny

[tall torrent]

Nah just take demo stockpile + demo team, then run a folding shovel with uncanny strikes

[tame lodge]

Oprah reference

[umbral scaffold]

too much on the left🤣

[final stag]

Yes fbjdjd

[vivid kernel]

It's good for quickly deleting enemies but at the same time I don't think it's worth it over stun/fire nades because these are extremely strong in chaotic moments

[final stag]

Still a silly build

[tiny summit]

No. Take the twinned blast. Do it.

[final stag]

I always take twin blast

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/oscars-standing-ovation-clap-clapping-applause-gif-5089552

[final stag]

So stupid to see two shredders fly at a horde

Think fast chuckle nuts

[tall torrent]

Now ur just baiting

[final stag]

Wait wait I have sumn for this

[umbral scaffold]

expect: 'it's not good at all', instead 'it's good at something'

[tame lodge]

Got lucky once, turned the horde into swiss cheese with 9 frag grenades

[vivid kernel]

At least in my games i keep running forward (sometimes even backwards) by myself and the other people get fucked or whatever (which is fun I'm not complaining) and these nades are so good for moments like this

[final stag]

Me when I run grenadier

[fresh saddle]

what was dump stat again

[vivid kernel]

Or I run forward and put myself in a trash position and the nade saves me

[final stag]

Pov: you're a heretic and I don't like you

[tall torrent]

Don’t get it

[tiny summit]

Dmg dump stat CIAG is still peak

[tame lodge]

Hot potato

[tiny summit]

But don't buy

Lmao

[fresh saddle]

lol

[vivid kernel]

I pass it to @half zenith

[vivid kernel]

This I mean

[half zenith]

🥔

[vivid kernel]

🥔 🔥

[tame lodge]

I will run smoke grenades for the next 4 hours, wish me good teammates

[half zenith]

[final stag]

You're a veteran

[vivid kernel]

@half zenith is best ogryn

[umbral scaffold]

knives runs best with stealth zealot, there's no point in taking on a charging one other than 'i wanna try something different' build

[final stag]

We survived the unsurvivable

[vivid kernel]

Hands down

[tall torrent]

Have you played Boltgun on zealot before

[vivid kernel]

You may think you're good because you didn't see LogBog in action

[final stag]

That's a bait, works well with scrier psyker and Stealth WS vet

[half zenith]

but you're better??

[vivid kernel]

Even good players get surprised and impressed by how LogBog is skilled as Ogryn

[umbral scaffold]

yeah it sucks compared to revolver

[tame lodge]

Friends dying is a canon event

[vivid kernel]

No im just above average

[tall torrent]

Lmao

Ok ur just plain ignorant

No point arguing

[final stag]

Dead friends is character development

[vivid kernel]

Ok but did you ever play with LogBog @half zenith in ur party?

[umbral scaffold]

u just plain arrogant

[vivid kernel]

lord Daedalus

Answer me

[tall torrent]

Boltgun for zealot is a very different purpose than revolver, they’re not really comparable

[final stag]

Boltgun on zealot is like playing boltgun the game tjend

[vivid kernel]

Lord Daedalus

[tiny summit]

Counterpoint. It's a videogame about having fun. So plenty of points to take knives with anything

[vivid kernel]

One could say LogBog is better than ChocoB himself

Top global Darktide players

1. Heydan
2. LogBog
3. chocob

[final stag]

I love my knife on vet.

[tall torrent]

You take Boltgun on zealot because you’re trying to magdump 50% boss hp in 2 seconds and remove multiple crushers quickly

You don’t take Boltgun on zealot because you want revolver in different flavour

[half zenith]

[vivid kernel]

He left the chat

[tall torrent]

If you’re picking on Boltgun because “it’s worse revolver” for zealot you’re just simply ignorant

[tall torrent]

Better that way

[final stag]

Boltgun has a very high finesse modifier right? It synergizes well with zealot nfnfn

[vivid kernel]

How do I delete crushers with bolt gun?

I always find myself having to dump a whole mag to kill 2 crushers

[final stag]

It would be a fucking menace on Psyker however

[vivid kernel]

With pinning fire

IV

[tall torrent]

Press fury (left ult), for 3s all ur shots on carapace armor use flak ADM

[tame lodge]

The only reason I don't run bolter zealot is because I have a consistent evis build to deal with pack of crushers, so I'd save bolter for bosses and already did the penance for melee only

[vivid kernel]

oh with the ult

[tall torrent]

Yea

[vivid kernel]

so it turns cara into flak and I have to use flak DMG in perks, so it does more dmg to crusher?

[final stag]

You can also grab raking fire too for 20% ranged damage from behind

[tall torrent]

With pinning fire + cavalcade + blazing piety you do absurd amounts of Dmg

[tiny summit]

Chastise working with guns feels wrong

[vivid kernel]

I like it because it's trash for melee I mean it's good but not satisfying at all

[final stag]

Gotta chastise the wicked

[tall torrent]

I’m not sure if +25% flak perk would apply in that scenario, but honestly they die so quickly it almost never matters

[midnight totem]

god the games are shitty tonight

[vivid kernel]

Dashing towards a random enemy that not even works well all the time not even a proper animation

[tall torrent]

U can magdump kill 3 crushers almost instantly

[vivid kernel]

Also can't even run over enemies like Handmaiden 's dash

[tiny summit]

I love chastise and heavy sword

[final stag]

Me when the games are shitty

[vivid kernel]

Just play with @half zenith

He carries so hard you don't even feel the enemies

[umbral scaffold]

never had the hounor, nor that i give a fuck either

[tame lodge]

I love dashing towards enemies without checking the amount of ranged enemies surrounding me

[vivid kernel]

Ngl if you ever died with an Ogryn called "Goreksson" in your team you're just pure bad in the game

[final stag]

Ppppft

[vivid kernel]

Have more respect for the one carrying whole Fatshark

Do you like Fatshark?

Would you be their friend

Like, if Aqshy met you irl would you be a friend

I would be a friend

🙂

[umbral scaffold]

i don't even know who jhon darktide is....and seems i've played with him, and didn't give a fuck either🤣

[final stag]

Who shit in your cheerios today sourpuss

[umbral scaffold]

btw who the fuck is jhon darktide?

[vivid kernel]

Nobody it's just a common name

There's a load of John Darktides

Queue auric qp NA East and have a chance to meet Goreksson ingame

[tame lodge]

Saw a sgt John Darktide

[umbral scaffold]

kk...

[vivid kernel]

Good luck !

tru

[umbral scaffold]

'ppl playing game' is all i see🤣

[vivid kernel]

Same

They're very normal and average flawed human beings

Same as you and me

[umbral scaffold]

'ppl annyong me with giant ass ogryns and smoke nades while i'm playing games the way i want' i also see🤣

when single player darktide?

[white minnow]

there's the solo mod (no rewards) or you get a premade that plays the way that you want

[tame lodge]

Soon™

[white minnow]

idk what it is about people who use the public matchmaking system and complain about the way that people play

if you don't like pub players, don't use the system that queues you up with them?

[final stag]

They feel entitled

[tame lodge]

C'mon, don't miss the joke

[final stag]

Play private matches if you don't like playing with people gnnfn

[tame lodge]

I'm watching y'all

[umbral scaffold]

too much of an arrassment....just need BOTs

[umbral scaffold]

need 2 players....i wanna run solo

[tame lodge]

The sauceless vets

The only thing saving their fit is the headgear

They still dodge more than some players

[umbral scaffold]

man BOTs are waaaaaaaay better than the average random

they can also take cover

[white minnow]

(no)

ranged enemies will fuck bots up

bots will reliably dodge melee enemies and have infinite stamina to work with

but they don't seem to have any such things against ranged enemies

trying to do a solo with just bots is very painful

[final stag]

They eat gun fire

[tame lodge]

They should be able to use the shoot from cover mechanic

[umbral scaffold]

they do they do, they just need 3 secs to process they have to run out of fire.....still faster that the 10 secs needed to randoms

[white minnow]

every time i reached a ranged patrol, bots are just dying

at least with melee patrols, i can take the aggro and bots have their dodges and infinite stamina to work with

hop into a solo game with bots and see what happens when you reach a ranged patrol

[umbral scaffold]

not issue....free meat shields

[tame lodge]

they have some crazy accuracy

[white minnow]

this is not a hypothetical to be discussed
go download the solo mod and see for yourself

or queue on inane hours at where you live to get the solo experience with bots

[umbral scaffold]

already done, it's why i want BOTs....between rescuing bots and rescuing random a choose the formers🤣

[white minnow]

uh huh

[umbral scaffold]

and if....i payed for a game, and i don't have nor the time nor the will to a) modify the game with mods b) going throght the ass annhilating experience to form a stable team to play with every day; if the game doesn' give me the option to solo queue....what options do i have?

[white minnow]

look for a group on discord

if you have time to chat here, you also have the time to look for a group

or just learn to tolerate pubs because i don't think you truly realize how terrible bots are

[umbral scaffold]

no....i don't care, i don't want to, i want solo queue, if i can't i jump into a public queue and throw shit at every bad player i stumble in

[white minnow]

i do not think that there will ever be a person who willingly picks bots over the average random unless they just dislike playing with people in general

[final stag]

He is clearly just baiting.

Ignore him.

[white minnow]

no

[tame lodge]

Want to be mad situation

[white minnow]

you could also grab the manymoretrys mod and queue on a mission that has expired from the board, which will prevent others from publicly queuing into it

but since you don't want to use mods, that's not an option either

[umbral scaffold]

so i go public and throw shit at bad players....what's the matter?

[white minnow]

oh you can do that

i also can throw shit at you

[tame lodge]

Or don't do that

It's an option

Oh right, you just want to be mad

[final stag]

Imagine just wanting to be hateful towards players who want to have fun, grow up.

[thorn lark]

you seem to complain a lot about randoms, what is the difficulty you're playing at?

[umbral scaffold]

listen it's ok to be bad, but one thing is making mistakes, not having stellar skills in a game and get carried by someone else in a multiplayer game, another thing is being totally unable to coordinate brain to fingers and spoil the fun to other ppl who want to finish a mission...there's phub to have fun other than darktide ffs

[thorn lark]

and what is your region?

[umbral scaffold]

damnation, auric and normal...

[thorn lark]

and so you have bad randoms every auric?

[umbral scaffold]

eye of terror🤣 ?

[thorn lark]

I play in OCE

so small pool, we play with what we get

[umbral scaffold]

yeah...last match in auric have only a good psyker in the team, the other 2 got carried 4 deaths each

[thorn lark]

i do play quite a lot so I feel like I have more good runs in auric than bad ones, but maybe if you play once in a while you get another feeling

[umbral scaffold]

i mean i have fun in solo rescues....but when u have zealots throwing the match to shit cuz they charge blindly triggering hordes in high intensity while the others are trying to get down a chaos spawn.....thrice in a row....FFS u came to hate randoms and question what kind of weed smoking wreaks play this game🤣

[winter grove]

I wouldn't take that man's words seriously

Last time he clearly tried to bait by shit talking smoke grenades and having zero idea about their value

[umbral scaffold]

wtf i don't like them....i talk shit of stuff i don't like, i have to say they are great cuz you say they are great? wtf of an argoument is that?

[winter grove]

You didn't say "I don't like them", that's a strawman

You just went "yeah they are bad why would you use them" in face of every reason why would use them

And at the end of day you just went "ok and" to every argument

[umbral scaffold]

OMG...i have to prefix everything i write with 'in my honest opinion' cuz otherwise your feelings get hurt by someone's else opinion on shit you like?

[winter grove]

I never claimed to like smoke grenades or "get my feelings hurt"

[umbral scaffold]

ok and....(means i don't give a fuck i still don'tt like them and think they sucks to play with)

[winter grove]

You're just pulling that out of your ass

[late hatch]

Daed is just having a rough day and trying to start fights with everyone. Needs a snickers

[umbral scaffold]

but u are acting likewise

[winter grove]

I am aware

Quite literally doing this because I am bored and giving his words less value

[late hatch]

Poor kid cant control his emotions very well yet, give him some space to recover bls

[winter grove]

He needs his comfort plasma gun, I get it

[umbral scaffold]

or throwing knives....

mk iv lasgun good too

[winter grove]

Does he know

[last parcel]

mmm plasma fried tendies

[tiny summit]

Crack an egg on top of the plasma gun

[tame lodge]

Standard portable air fryer

[late hatch]

Crispy fried with that unique plasma tang!

[split sapphire]

Is wrath an ok sub blessing till i find Sunder? Cause it does offer more cleave for me

[winged warren]

can use the mod no

[midnight totem]

for power sword?

[split sapphire]

Yea

Cause i still do not have Sunder

[trim steppe]

After power cycler, you want brutal momentum or sunder. Slaughterer is probably next, and wrath is somewhere on the list lol. My understanding is that wrath is functional but theres a lot of better choices

Its been so long since i've tested wrath that I cant be specific

[split sapphire]

Yea but brutal momentum is only good against single enemies, and i did gave slaughterer at one point

[late hatch]

Bromentum is pretty universally BIS

[split sapphire]

Yea but

Oh nvr mind

[white minnow]

more specifically, it's good against stuff that you one-shot

[split sapphire]

I know that, it's good

[winged warren]

also onion i didn't scroll down, can't believe you even bothered to reply that guy

[white minnow]

yeah, just making sure there was no misconception since you said it was good against single enemies

[winged warren]

i remember last time he very negative too

Im now calling u onion

[white minnow]

thank u for calling me by my canonical name

[late hatch]

Gives bonus headshot and ignores first target making your push attack headshots better and giving you better unpowered swings

[winged warren]

Sounds more friendly

No, your canonical name would be arco(tash)
Onion is an alias

[white minnow]

nuh uh

[split sapphire]

I still have my Mk. III sword with Brutal momentum IV

[midnight totem]

Well. Wrath isn't useless on power sword, persay

It's just that, almost any other option is better

As long as you have power cycler

[split sapphire]

Hmm, maybe

Well course 3 swings is better then having 1

It's a must have

[hazy glacier]

Any tips for make every shot count penance?

I’ve been trying for like an hour and a half lmao

[late hatch]

Revolver.

[trim steppe]

Revolver, shoot into hordes, once it's empty put it away and melee your way to victory

I think bulwark shields count as a miss? Or are otherwise just finicky? So don't shoot towards them

[hazy glacier]

Alr

I might’ve gotten it this time

We shall see

This shit makes me wanna jump off a bridge thou

[trim steppe]

Once upon a time you could empty your gun, switch to melee, alt-f4, rejoin and it would pop at the end. simpler times lol

[late hatch]

Its not even close to the worst. Wait until you get to the private game ones

If you cant complete it in normal play, it shouldnt be in the game.

[hazy glacier]

Fax

I fuckin got boys

Wooo

[trim steppe]

I like that those penances made you do stuff that pissed off your team. so instead of removing them, they just made it harder to get

[trim steppe]

Nice man! Grats

[hazy glacier]

Ty brotha

[hollow ibex]

it's the opposite, it's for decapitating multiple bruisers simultaneously

[trim steppe]

The two most infuriating ones for me were 15 matches in a row without being downed, and the ogryn one for bowling over 6 other ogryn. And this was back before crusher packs when usually you only ever saw 3 ogryn at a time

[hazy glacier]

Damn

Any tips for long bomb tryna unlock those helmets man lmao

[trim steppe]

thats super easy, just any map with a long open section of map, wait for a horde and throw the grenage high in the air. arc it right and it'll explode mid air and pop the penance

There's literally a ton of sections you can do it in

A super easy one is the assassination at the train station, big open area with enemies everywhere

Also the consignment yard

[hazy glacier]

Alr lemme see what I can cook up

A marked for death is just tagging someone an then hitting weak spots right?

[trim steppe]

No tagging, you use exec stance and ADS shoot some heads

easy enough to get and Deadeye at the same time

[hazy glacier]

Alr good to know

Appreciate the help man

[tiny summit]

Start of Hab Dreyko before dropping down can be a good spot sometimes. That's when I did it. "Fuck it let's try" and boom

[midnight totem]

end of that raid mission for ammo supplies

you can stand on the platform and nade the drop down,a horde is guarnteed to spawn there

consignment yard also works

[solar swift]

Is this any good?

[midnight totem]

I got my zealot grenade penance at the consignment yard

looks great

swap out falter for your choice of blessing

groaner/poxwalker for flak or manic

[tiny summit]

Change groaner dmg and falter and it'll be good

Maniac will be better. Flak on helbores only really relevant on mauler body shots and flak ragers

[trim steppe]

Ya nice roll. Groaner damage for probably flak, falter to onslaught

[solar swift]

Ya seems like the safest bet

[hazy glacier]

On consignment yard now

[trim steppe]

Love those stats. Almost perfect

[solar swift]

I did not even know about surgical this is the best one I could have gotten thankfully.

Stability seems like one I can ignore

[trim steppe]

stability is the dump stat on helbores so, ya

[tiny summit]

Helbores don't have DA. He wants onslaught

[trim steppe]

Derp, yes

[tiny summit]

Stability is only relevant for tap firing recoil which you don't do often.

[trim steppe]

Guys I finally did it, I banked the max level of every blessing in the game. My blessing collection is complete!

[tiny summit]

Pretty much helbores only care about dmg, stopping power and charge. Ammo dump won't hurt save for a slightly smaller mag but hey you got a very nice stat alignment and it didn't brick

[trim steppe]

My final, elusive blessing

[midnight totem]

congrats

now you can play the game

[tiny summit]

Nice

Then Fatshark with the crafting update just has all blessings unlocked with diamantine

[trim steppe]

Lmao probably

I still hope they do that, or let you straight up buy the blessing you want from melk with melkbucks

Let others avoid my pain

[sudden quail]

Best power sword moveset?

Actually better question

[tiny summit]

There was that dude with like 4 pages of orange power swords with no power cycler

[sudden quail]

What weapon for vet is basically like left click horde hold click elites

[midnight totem]

almost all of them

[trim steppe]

It took me like 200 hours for PC4, but by now I've gotten it literally 6 times

[sudden quail]

Ok which one deal most damage?

[tiny summit]

First power sword I upgraded: PC4 and Sunder

[midnight totem]

power sword and pick axe shovel

[hazy glacier]

On power sword is sunder any good?

[trim steppe]

yes. you want power cycler with either brutal momentum or sunder

[midnight totem]

man, melk is selling a very nice mkx eviscerator

should I get it?

I should get it

lmao at 79 mobility

[tiny summit]

I mean. It is an upgrade but like not a whole lot

Got the melkies to burn?

[trim steppe]

Thats half your melkbucks, I probably wouldnt since its not a godroll and your current one is pretty comparable

[hazy glacier]

Alr thanks

[trim steppe]

Also no T4s to strip

[tiny summit]

Also shred and perfect strike my beloved. Such a brain dead weapon on a brain dead martyrdom build

[midnight totem]

def could burn my melkies

don't really need it

but I have used my current eviscerator to great effect

I prefer playing veteran but have done a few high int with my current evis and by god it feels righteously unstoppable. Unless its a whole group of crushers

[severe stratus]

Question, are the Boltgun and Plasmagun the only 2 the veteran uses relating to the space marines lol???

[junior needle]

2 and 15 evis are very different beasts

Power sword is a universal weapon as well

Same with chainswords

[tame lodge]

Tamed one, need to tame the other

[tiny summit]

Well we aren't exactly using a space marine boltgun

[severe stratus]

True, was just wondering cuz I'm still leveling up lol

Been using the Autogun ATM mostly and a chainsword

[junior needle]

There’s many auto guns

You’ll need to specify

[midnight totem]

god, this level 30 psyker

just a waste of space

half the map behind all the time

[jaunty merlin]

I mean the guy is giving you moral support. I see that as a good thing.

[trim steppe]

That's me every time I play with people who skip all the resources

Just in the back hoovering shit up

Opening chests and kicking dogs

[tame lodge]

psykers are slow walkers, something about their big brains

[hollow ibex]

with the right build, they can prob be faster than zealots lol

(at least temporarily)

[tame lodge]

Can confirm

[jaunty merlin]

Why is it when I try to test out a new weapon, I have to baby sit not one, not two, but three players who keep going down every 5 second?

[hazy glacier]

Perks for power sword?

[terse idol]

cause you're playing with randoms

😌

[rigid pilot]

Time of day matters alot

[worn mulch]

@tame minnow aye, hop on helldivers

[agile forge]

Gun psykers are quite zoomy

[dreamy spade]

Vets can be the fastest

[agile forge]

Infiltrate or something? Still haven't tried that yet

[umbral granite]

Got this as a mission reward, good shovel or should i just rip the tier 4 blessing off of it?

like, base stats seem ok, but i dont know if that 37% mobility kills the weapon, and i am not sure about perks/blessings with these things.

[trim hemlock]

I’d rip TaS off of it, even though it’s a dead blessing currently (it literally does not/should not work right now )

[tiny summit]

It wouldn't "kill" the weapon. It's more so the fact you know you can get better

[agile forge]

You lose 1 dodge

But I think the blessings and perks are bad anyway besides TAS after they fix it

So either way, rip it

[final stag]

Losing 1 dodge is insane

[winter grove]

Neither boltguns or plasma guns are exclusive to space marines

[agile forge]

We have smaller IG variants

[winter grove]

I wonder if DT would be as popular if it was a space marine game

Because gut feeling tells me no

[umbral granite]

In lore, the space marines have bigger versions of bolters/plasma-weapons.

The bolter we've got in darktide has a 15 round magazine, while the one space-marines are equipped with has a 30-45 round magazine, and has enough kick to break an unaugmented humans arm (implying that the darktide one is a lower caliber than the space-marine variant).

[radiant linden]

space marine bolter size

[tiny summit]

Space Marines are popular lore and cool. You know what most people don't do in games? Choose to play as the big boys.

[final stag]

They tried that with space hulk deathwatch(?) Failed horribly

But then again it wasn't a fatshark game

[lyric dock]

Would be funny to have that as just as a Meme weapon for April fools

And every shot the Veteran loses 10% of their HP per shot

[radiant linden]

They captured the tedious side of the tabletop game, which made it not fun to play

[radiant linden]

more like 90%

[lyric dock]

Yeah.

[gaunt delta]

Plasma guns are totally associated with the Guard:

[gaunt delta]

There was a YT Darktide review about how it adapted a few tabletop mechanics that added fun to the shooter experience.
Unfortunately it will take me more time to find it than I have this morning, so…

[agile forge]

Finally had the chance to try the assault chainsword IV for vet, quite like it

not so good against bruisers though

but it mulches hordes and it's pretty good against elites

it can sub out my power sword for my plasma VoC/FT build I think

[late hatch]

Space hulk suffered from abominably bad AI and pathing. Just conga lines of enemies running towards you and while good looking, the maps were not well built for the most part.

[final stag]

To also be fair Warhammer games are usually notoriously bad

[late hatch]

Due to GWS interference in large part imo.

Not only in games but also in B&M stores and online mod kit sellers.

While 90% of their IP is built off stolen assets from the likes of Heinlein, Tolkein, and more.

[final stag]

They're just hypocritical.

Very few Warhammer games are even worth it, even there tabletop conversions love mordheim and Necromunda fall flat

[winter grove]

Oh so that's why Mordheim felt a lot like a tabletop

[late hatch]

Yeah they dont want games that directly compete with their mini sales.

Have you seen Table Top Simulator? Some pretty great mod packs for it where you can play pretty much any popular mini or board game

[winter grove]

Tbf I can't name any notable warhammer games that didn't flop outside of Space Marine 1, Darktide, Vermintide 2 and Total War Warhammer series

Oh and mechanicus+rogue trader I think

Maybe I don't know many

[final stag]

GW makes some farts for sure

Oh no don't worry Warhammer games usually are bad.

[winter grove]

Table Top Simulator finally allows poor people to play warhammer tabletops

Those fucking figure prices 😭

[gaunt delta]

Dawn of War 1 made it to a bunch of faction DLcs

[late hatch]

I think most good studios simply dont want to deal with the GWS interference and licensing

[gaunt delta]

DoW2 wasn’t half bad.

We don’t talk about DoW3.

[winter grove]

Just kinda took the games I know aren't complete dogshit

Although Immortal Empires for total war warhammer 3 does simulate tabletop prices

[late hatch]

3d printers exist

4k or 8k laser printers can churn out some incredible minis and there is a HUGE library of models out there now

[winter grove]

That implies if you own a 3d printer

Maintaining one is an ordeal on itself I heard

[late hatch]

You can buy a good printer and all the bits you need and the liquid for a fraction of the price of an army direct

[winter grove]

That's nice

[late hatch]

I spent thousands on minis back in my teens. Then they just sat on shelves for most of the time until I eventually sold them off

[gaunt delta]

I’m reporting you for identity theft

[wraith bolt]

Dawn of War basically created the space marine archetype we have today lol

There wasnt really large scale voice recordings attributed to any characters before that

[gaunt delta]

https://youtu.be/qyGDo1ARpjI?si=W4353fLuS5pwv0I0

[late hatch]

almost ready for a few hours of boredom and disappointment

[umbral scaffold]

So, I've been trying to complete my zealot weeklies, but just had this veteran that refused to fire their gun... like at all. Kept spam throwing their nades though.

Like, why play melee vet when you have two zealots in your team?

[jaunty sphinx]

prob was trying to get that penance lol

[umbral scaffold]

Ah, the heresy one?

[white minnow]

cuz why not

[umbral scaffold]

Well, this player also ragequit the second they went down so...

[white minnow]

sounds like a problem of that particular player rather than something that you should ascribe to people who decide to use their melee more

@spice wadi GUCK GUCK GUCK GUCK

[gusty bison]

Melee vet gud

That player bad

[foggy rune]

Meese

[late hatch]

How long are you dragging out the game to get that much dps out?

[final stag]

Spamming nades is utterly hilarious

[serene bough]

damn 350+ elite/specialist kills

[wanton dawn]

No ammo maelstrom with a good plasma setup give you huge number

[lost portal]

What blessing are recommended for a Apigrina Brauto?

[trim hemlock]

Agripinaa

Probably Deathspitter and Fire Frenzy, but that’s not to say there isn’t a case in point for certain other options

[zealous wyvern]

hoorah hail the Emperor you go man

🫡

[midnight totem]

Stripped Down 4 is pretty funny on my agrip

Literally run circles around a couple of gunners

[tame lodge]

Yeah, dancing in the rain

[late hatch]

almost completed an auric run with 1 random, 2 bots. but that last big room with the vaults that you have to open to get the capsules 1 of the bots full spazzed out and kept jumping off an edge. then we were right at the end and got bombed out right next to the final elevator and wiped

one bomber and tox flamer behind and 1 bomber and flamer from the front and they just pincered us

that rossel bot was obviously a traitor heretic and was sabotaging the mission

[tame lodge]

The chaos gods got him

[torpid lion]

The guard never surrender!

[trim steppe]

Is 8% elite damage decent on zealot revolver? Or is flakiac better

[agile forge]

You'd rather Flakiac but maybe consecrate it anyway

That's a great statline

[late hatch]

elite can help you to get one shots, keep rolling

[agile forge]

And elites is probably a B tier perk at least

[trim steppe]

[agile forge]

Well fuck.

[trim steppe]

HADRON PLZ

[late hatch]

thats a brick

[umbral scaffold]

Hadron says "Nope"

[agile forge]

Machine spirit is a bastard

[gray finch]

if last roll will be good its save

[agile forge]

It could be B tier

Won't be perfectable

[trim steppe]

This is my current one, i dont think its worth the 700 plasteel for a side grade

Well more like 1200 after I modify

Maybe the crafting update will save it somehow

[tiny summit]

See if you need a the larger dmg bonus in the meat grinder. Try to 1 tap gunners. Then see how it looks against ragers

Oh didn't notice lmao

[tall torrent]

For veteran, best option is elite + maniac
Not sure about zealot

[trim steppe]

For future reference, is 8% elite ok on vet revolver or does it need specifically 10% to be useful?

[tall torrent]

I think 8% should suffice

[ripe night]

Chaotic? Yes. Is it dead? Also yes. All that matters lol 😂 Finally got this penance out of the way

[tiny summit]

The net is a solid end

[ripe night]

Indeed 😂

[wanton dawn]

I was looking at a one of my report for fun on a lost game and When I look at the taggin report I see something very strange

How it is possible at maelstrom level to go through a game without tagging once in 15 min ?

[junior needle]

Much like killing elites/specials with a plasma gun, someone else appears to have been doing it already

So why bother

[wanton dawn]

tag includes everything: ammo, location, etc...

[junior needle]

[midnight totem]

My tag button and use button are the same

An inconvenience when it comes to doors

[sharp ember]

I've been reading the Imperium Maledictum rpg rulebook for fun

this is what getting rolls from brunt feels like

[low yacht]

We are on a Rogue Traders ship and we only get that.

I thought Rogue Traders were stocked up

[junior needle]

They can be, but it depends. Brahms has canonically traded with xenos so they might have xenotech lying around. Whether or nor it ends up in our hands depends but it'd be strange to mention that and not give it.

[low yacht]

Doubt they trust us

[junior needle]

The rejects are also canonically some of the best performing operatives the warband has atm.

So it's not an issue of trust, it's an issue of fatshark hasn't chosen to implement them yet

[umbral scaffold]

That's the thing about wh40k compared wh fantasy, In fantasy someone slaughtering an army of enemies is unheard of and would make them one of the strongest characters in the setting, in wh40k, it's Tuesday for anyone who could be considered a "hero"

[winter grove]

That feeling when bunch of penal squads outperform several Valkyrie ships of 21st Moebian guardmen

[final stag]

We may not be the imperiums finest
But we're still amazing

[winter grove]

We're not Imperium's finest

But god damn we're karking good

[terse idol]

NOW TO BE FAIR

We're practically kill-team level 😌

[winter grove]

We have people who are too faithful to die, space wizards and 3 meter tall forklifts of a man

Obviously we're gonna be victorious

Now I wonder if a reject shock squad can take down at least a singular space marine

[junior needle]

Even in regular damnation you’re taking down multiple space marine tier threats

[winter grove]

Gotta show those blueberries how it's done

[tall torrent]

You put the avg unnamed space marine into a darktide damnation mission he’s prob gonna take a serious beating if not killed

[winter grove]

That's nice to hear

[final stag]

I can see us killing a sm
We have an ogryn who match them in strength (and our ogryns are rather smart and dexterous for ogryns)
A psyker with amazing endurance
Veterans who have access to plasma weapons and overall exceptional for a guardsman
And a zealot with power weapon and extreme faith

[tall torrent]

The Karnak twin fight tho, those 2 are weird in terms of power scaling

[winter grove]

I heard playable ogryns have chips in brains that make them smarter

[tall torrent]

They’re not supposed to be stronger than space marines but are easily the hardest bosses in the game (more than BoN which is a daemonic entity that can wipe grey knights)

[winter grove]

Going from an infant to a child or something in terms of intelligence

[tall torrent]

Only brawler ogryn does

[final stag]

And it's malfunctioning

The bodyguard is however EXTREMELY intelligent for someone without a chip

[winter grove]

So Bully and Bodyguard are exceptionally smart for ogryns too?

[lucid pasture]

A lot of the difficulty in their fight comes from the fact that they're in an arena with a ton of backup though, to be fair.

It's not a stand-up fight, it was a pre-planned trap.

[tall torrent]

Yea, but a group of chaos-buffed humans wearing flak & carapace armor should still not be as strong as space marines

[final stag]

Y e a h

[tall torrent]

Only Rodin and Rinda have weapons that realistically can damage power armor

Plasma gun & power sword

[final stag]

We have access to both as rejects however

[winter grove]

Is that why they even are tried? Like how do you plan putting an average ogryn on trial

[final stag]

No clue, but they're still exceptionally smart for ogryns. The brawler is too but they need their chip and that's frying their brain

[umbral scaffold]

Honestly... one thing people forget about space marines is their stupidly enhanced reaction time. I think it was something like one fifth of a normal human

[winter grove]

Isn't visual reaction speed like 0.5 seconds on average for a human?

[final stag]

They've still been killed by average humans. And rejects are far from average. I'd say a 4 man of all the archetypes with sm killing weapons could realistically take em.

[tall torrent]

Yea

[umbral scaffold]

I mean, rejects can dodge bullets, which is an incredible feat for a relatively unenhanced human.

[tall torrent]

A mauler with his 2-handed chainaxe might be able to damage power armor but he moves way too slow to realistically hit a space marine

For rejects’ case

Death guard marines are slow but they’re still marines

[final stag]

If the sm has a helmet we should be fiiine

[tall torrent]

And they are basically invulnerable to everything (available in this game) below Boltgun Caliber

[tame lodge]

What if it's red helmet though

[final stag]

A blueberry? We should be fine

[winter grove]

Why would we fight one though?

[final locust]

praise be

[final stag]

No idea

[final locust]

FS are going away from RNG

[final stag]

We would face deathwatch realistically.

GRAAAAAAH

[tall torrent]

Death guard

[final stag]

Wrong faction

[tall torrent]

Deathwatch is anti-xenos

[final stag]

Death guard

Yeah I fucked up I was thinking the wrong one fjndnd

[tame lodge]

Walking source of disease

[final locust]

im not gonna lie

[final stag]

So is BoN

[final locust]

its game over if i come up against a chaos space marine

[final stag]

A single one? Nah I think rejects have it in the bag

[tame lodge]

Hmmm, if you could tear through the armor, you could sever that rotting flesh

[winter grove]

Death Guard might just have guts flying around as weakspot

[tall torrent]

Against death guard, the only weapons rejects have that would realistically deal Dmg would be like:

Plasma gun
Boltgun
Power sword
Thunder hammer
Crusher
Psyker powers
Ogryn (assuming he can get into melee distance without getting blown apart by a regular-sized Boltgun)

[tame lodge]

Maybe remove an arm

[final stag]

If it can bleed we can kill it

[umbral scaffold]

Still, a SM would easily become the hardest boss in the game.

[final stag]

And the most fun

[winter grove]

Well duh

But most fun

I can imagine Wolfer face of regret knowing he could just kill the rejects while escaping

Because same rejects just killed a fucking SM

[final stag]

People tend to forget we can also kill daemonhosts but we tend to avoid them
So I think sm isn't too far out of our ballpark

He would sob

[lucid pasture]

Think the solution to this from a gameplay standpoint would be if the marine had holes in his armor and / or no helmet. Pinpoint weakspots so you could even do damage with a lasgun.

[winter grove]

Yeah exactly my point

[vocal cipher]

honestly, even if it isn't realistic, Space marines getting clowned on ALWAYS makes me happy.. heretic or otherwise

[winter grove]

Death Guard are space marines yes, but they're nurglites

[tall torrent]

Shooting his open belly with a lasgun would prob do some dmg

Helmet tho… a space marine with revealed face is dangerous

[winter grove]

They could just as well have a huge hole in their abdomen with their guts out

[vocal cipher]

there are deathguard models with their intestines hanging out like christmas garlands so that's actually not outside the realm of possibility

[final stag]

Same, I'm a ig enjoyer
Let me see my avg human not some abomination fnrnrb

[vocal cipher]

I'm a knight man myself, but the guard are DAMN fine

[final stag]

DONT MESS WITH THE GUARD

[lucid pasture]

My favorite shtick in any fantasy setting, regular people getting shit done

[tall torrent]

Best case scenario, psyker/Ogryn stuns the space marine then veteran blasts his head off with 1 plasma shot

[final stag]

Same

[tall torrent]

Or zealot thunder hammers him with 3 stacks of Thrust IV and 1 shots him

[final stag]

Imagine 💀

[vocal cipher]

or ogryn charges him off a ledge

[winter grove]

Remind me, zealot uses some kind of crucifix in one his ults right?

[tall torrent]

Relic?

[final stag]

A holy relic

[winter grove]

The one with stun and toughness

[winter grove]

Ye ye ye

[tall torrent]

Yea he can prob push a space marine off a bridge resulting in instakill

[winter grove]

Can't they just stun death watch by showing the relic in SM face

[vocal cipher]

bonus points if the fall includes the goofy scream

[winter grove]

Considering how everything fears it

[winter grove]

Wilhelm scream

[tall torrent]

Although I think space marines prob are resistant to that kind of thing

[final stag]

sm are kind of atheist ain't they

[tall torrent]

They have nurgle buff + power armor + they’re literally trained elite soldiers with hundreds of years of active combat

[tame lodge]

Relicarist mentioned, REPENT

[vivid tangle]

what should I change?

[tall torrent]

Hammerblow -> Savage sweep/shred/skullcrusher

[vivid tangle]

aighto, ty

[winter grove]

Shred is good on dclaws right?

Ok good

[tall torrent]

It’s better for zealot than veteran but it’s not bad for veteran either

[winter grove]

I just need rampage on my dclaw

And I've got an open slot for blessing change

So it's just matter of time

[tall torrent]

I’ve been just saving resources for eventual crafting overhaul

Saved 7k plasteel so far

[winter grove]

I wonder if it's gonna be like VT2 crafting system

Also did they promise shit like new weapons?

[tall torrent]

Don’t know

[tall torrent]

Yes

[lucid pasture]

Last news thing did say new weapons yeah

[winter grove]

Ius variants incoming

[tall torrent]

More penances to earn cosmetics
New penance progression
Better progression to getting better weapons
Crafting system overhaul
New missions
New enemy types
New weapons (not specified as weapon variants)
New missions modifiers
New features
Balance changes
QoL improvements
“Other surprises”

[final stag]

Hopefully a good release

I love this game so

[winter grove]

Imagine versus mode

[final stag]

They're still experimenting with vt2
That'd be a surprise

[tall torrent]

New penance cosmetics could very possibly be these

Related to the new stuff we got from skill tree update

[winter grove]

I really hope for veteran cover art cosmetics

Even with penances

[tall torrent]

I want those veteran armors

With the long coat

[winter grove]

Going with that commissar slay

[tall torrent]

It’s not rly commissar, looks more like inquisition throne agents

[final stag]

I just want to look more like a thug

[winter grove]

Aren't we basically an inquisition warband?

[final stag]

Yes

Doesn't stop me from making headcanons for the ending of my character dependent on the skin and build I use

[tall torrent]

All the redacted penance cosmetics are inquisition themed

[winter grove]

Not even basically even

We are inquisition warband

[final stag]

We are a inquisition killteam

[winter grove]

Inquisition says they need someone killed
We want to kill people

Mutual agreement

[final stag]

Let me be violent

[winter grove]

Isn't there fanatic voiceline that goes "Finally, I can burn heretics without getting arrested"

[final stag]

IS THERE??

That's hilarious

[tame lodge]

The fanatic and the judge have interactions towards the purge of heretics

[final stag]

I love the fanatic

My old drunken fart

[umbral scaffold]

The fanatic is hiralious

[winter grove]

Scottish old man

I love em

[umbral scaffold]

I found the judge to be obnoxious while trying to play one

[final stag]

"BLOOOOOOD FOR EMPEROR SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE"

[umbral scaffold]

Yeaah... that made me raise an eyebrow

[final stag]

It makes me fight harder when that voiceline plays

Certain voicelines give me a boost mentally

[severe gale]

it makes me harder

[umbral scaffold]

Khornites want their catch phrase back fanatic.

[final stag]

Makes me hard

[tame lodge]

The permanent look of superiority with a touch of humbleness

[winter grove]

Take and steal, blood raven style

[final stag]

When my cutthroat says "EVERY KILL, A PRAYER FOR THE DEAD" UGhh let me love you cutthroat

[winter grove]

Cutthroat is too angry for my liking tbf

[umbral scaffold]

"Ammo, every bullet a prayer of vengeance"

[winter grove]

Outside of VoC

[umbral scaffold]

You would be angry too if you watched your own homeworld get destroyed

[final stag]

He is actually quite likable, just has a drill sergeant vibe to him honestly

He is quite friendly just has a mean tone

"VETERANS DONT STAY DOWN"

[winter grove]

He got his leader skills

[umbral scaffold]

I don't know why, but the female cutthroat, when I played one, sounded like she had smoked for twenty years

[final stag]

He does for sure, he fits the squad leader

[winter grove]

I feel like Veteran is only one you could really assign headcannons for voices+ults

Like professional and volley fire
Cutthroat and VoC
Loose cannon and Infiltrate

[tame lodge]

Stealth training do your thing

[winter grove]

"Oh yeah... I am gonna enjoy this"

[umbral scaffold]

Loose cannon in general is pretty hiralious, especially their conversation with the professional are hiralious.

[final stag]

Professional and Loose cannon are buds for sure

[umbral scaffold]

"Yes sire, shine your boots sire?" or something like that?

[tame lodge]

Loose Cannon saw a Chaos Marine lmao

[winter grove]

Loose cannon is just your simple man/woman

[final stag]

Loose cannon VoC has a type of Ciaphas Cain vibe to it

[winter grove]

"I suppose dying peacefully in my sleep is just too much to ask?"

[final stag]

My loose cannon actually looks reasonably normal and attractive without a mask

I mean still realistically a 5/10 but for this game??? He's a steal

[umbral scaffold]

My main (and my vet) is a loose cannon. She has a massive scar across her left eye that left her half-blind in that eye.

[winter grove]

I made my loose cannon Scandinavian looking because I thought norscan guardsman would be hilarious

[final stag]

Funny enough my loose cannon is also blind in his left eye

I made mine or attempted to look Hispanic
Same for my cutthroat just two different types of Hispanics

Loose cannon is the typical farm worker look

Cutthroat looks Chicano

[gentle pivot]

What are the blessings I should prioritise for the autopistol? And which blessing should i replace?

[severe gale]

speedload to pinning fire

[gentle pivot]

i see. thank you

[hazy glacier]

For long bomb penance do you have to use frag grenade or can I use any?

[winter grove]

Any but smoke

[hazy glacier]

Alr thank you

[final locust]

be nice if they ditched the cosmetic rotation

[hazy glacier]

Frfr

[umbral granite]

I am still waiting for kreig skins to come back...

[trim steppe]

Finesse seems too low... thoughts?

[north spoke]

Ooooo I hope so!! Any place I can see the Veteran cosmetics in that pic?

[tall torrent]

They’re datamined stuff

[north spoke]

Dammit. Any chance I can get an enhanced image of them?

Currently not in a place where I can access me pc

[final stag]

Some of the bots have the cosmetics

Veteran ones anyways

Need that huge fucking book for my zealot however

[hazy glacier]

Bro fuck the long bomb challenge lmao

[north spoke]

I forgot the name of the grenade, but it made the challenge 100% easier.

It wasn't the Frak or Smoke grenades

[hazy glacier]

So the regular frag?

[final stag]

Krak.

[hazy glacier]

I’m using the krak

[final stag]

Shredders?

[hazy glacier]

The ones that cause bleed yeah?

[final stag]

Shredders have a bigger AoE

[hazy glacier]

I’m having trouble with the bounce tbh at least I think

[north spoke]

You just need to hit them, not kill them

[tall torrent]

aim high throw at 40m+

it needs to airburst

to not have bounce

[north spoke]

Find a ledge where they can climb, aim straight up and yeet when a horde comes

[north spoke]

Sorry it's been a long ass while since I played

[hazy glacier]

Alr any tips on what map to play

It seems like my teammates always kill the people before I can do it too

[last parcel]

it'll be easier on high intensity missions

[tall torrent]

torrent assassination start long catwalk

[hazy glacier]

Alright

[north spoke]

It's the last penance to complete for the Black Helmet right?

[hazy glacier]

Yup

Well it unlocks all the helmets

[north spoke]

Honestly, pretty worth it

[hazy glacier]

Frfr only reason I haven’t gave up

[north spoke]

I just need to know what those data mined Veteran cosmetics are

[tall torrent]

#theorycrafting message

[last parcel]

wolfer sends his regards

[hazy glacier]

I got it guys

Thanks again

The high intensity strat worked

[junior needle]

The autopistol is doing pretty poorly atm, you'd ideally want pinning/blaze away. Only shooters/gunners can be suppressed (everything else is immune or rarely, extremely resistant) so powderburn is pretty bad.

Late reply but you needed some more info

[wet anvil]

Question for le veterans

Rending important for stealth build?

[tall torrent]

Depends on weapon

[hazy glacier]

Sorry for the all questions guys but how to do on overwatch penance?

[wet anvil]

Stabby knife

[tall torrent]

Use uncanny strike blessing

Don’t take rending talents

[wet anvil]

Uno momento

Nope don’t have that on my knife

I do have ruthless backstab 3

[noble charm]

How I be playing darktide when I play veteran

[wet anvil]

Of course I have uncanny strike on the shovel I use for my voice of authority build

Is one knife better than the other for stabbing?

I’m using the mk 3

[hollow ibex]

mk6 single target is only stabbing (push attack)

if you want the shanker experience

not sure if that was your question tho

[junior needle]

mk3 is objectively better for light attack spam

[north spoke]

Hell yeah bro

[hazy glacier]

Yuhh

Turns out it only unlocks the first helmet I’m dumb

Now I gotta do on overwatch fml

[north spoke]

I overwatch by accident lmao

[hazy glacier]

Lucky

[north spoke]

What's overwatch again?

[hazy glacier]

Complete a game on malice or higher without taking melee damage

[north spoke]

Agripinaa braced autogun and dodge spam did it for me

[hazy glacier]

Idfk how imma do it lmao

[winter grove]

But mk6 has good heavies right?

[final stag]

Play on malice, have your melee weapon out at all times, use VoC or stealth for free toughness in a panic. Block at all times and dodge dodge dodge. It only counts melee damage.

[hazy glacier]

Wait does it only count health damage?

[final stag]

Yes

[hazy glacier]

Oh that’s doable

[final stag]

Not toughness damage

[hazy glacier]

Oh shit

[final stag]

Yeah it's super easy it you're focused

[hazy glacier]

Not so bad I was like how tf am I just suppose to not get hit at all

[hollow ibex]

you use some heavies for horde clear, but they aren't used for single target

[final stag]

Yeah only melee health damage
Ranged damage doesn't count.

[hazy glacier]

Gotcha appreciate it

You guys are the goats Frfr

[winter grove]

Well duh

I grabbed mk6 for horde clear

And I want it to do that

[hollow ibex]

you asked 🤷

[final stag]

Np np

[hollow ibex]

neither of the knives are great for horde clear anyway

they're just passable

[junior needle]

It has good heavies for clear because horizontals, and heavy juggling gets you slightly better clear speed but more horde control than light spam

[final stag]

Unless your WS stealth vet then they're amazing

[terse idol]

WS...

I mean, it's still only passable saddly

Weee got the dclaw, Pisssword, for Horde clear

The Mk6 is fun, cool

But not entirely the greatest for hordes

[dusky flare]

does iron will calculate based off over toughness

[junior needle]

The many armaments of auric quickplay continue to amaze me

[rigid pilot]

Damn the agripinna shotty is so good

[hollow ibex]

he rerolled for critical hit damage?

[rigid pilot]

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[rigid pilot]

Nobody does

[rigid pilot]

No, you get all the iron will above 75% blue

[dusky flare]

that's crazy synergy

To think it used to give 100, how were shout vets even supposed to die back in the day. Aside from fire.

[dusky flare]

If that amazes you... just look at what i found in t5 histg

[junior needle]

I've seen some interesting things, I wouldn't say I'm amazed

[dusky flare]

This is a usable gun. That colum brauto is just taking the piss.

[junior needle]

ciag is a usable gun at gray, even if he purposefully took the dog blessings

[dusky flare]

it has 5% crit chance

that's like 2nd or 3rd bis

[late hatch]

Burst fire c5. Cant see true level so they might not have had time to grind for better

I played with a smite shield psyker with a autogun of some kind the other night, they played like a vet lol

[junior needle]

You missed the point

It's purposefully crafting the shittiest blessings

[dusky flare]

And you must've missed what i sent 😂

come back and tell me punishing salvo and sustained fire are the shittiest blessings

[junior needle]

I did see it

Although I can't tell if it was taken with or without alterations

If it was crafted on crit/carapace then that's a big yikes

But it honestly looks like a "Oh I got this as an emps gift and never used it, let me try it out"

[junior rivet]

yall aint got shit on this guy i found

[last parcel]

[zealous wyvern]

god tier

[dusky flare]

It looks like a machine learning iteration 💀

[paper brook]

So I touched Hadron today

I'm down a limb

[junior needle]

At least he took the book ult to support the team

[umbral scaffold]

This guy is either a gigachad, or a dumbass, not sure which.

[winter grove]

Both?

[frank basin]

I can see his username

He maybe has his YouTube channel through I haven’t see his recent video

His steam privated

[wooden oar]

Logging in after not playing for a few months and seeing this beauty feels good.

[odd sparrow]

Wow that thing is beautiful

Id swap carapace for flak, to 1hit on non crit against gunner/shotgunner

[wooden oar]

You one shot them in the head and I always aim for heads, or other weak spots. Carapace allows for one shotting crushers.

[odd sparrow]

You dont at longer ranges,

Without crit anyway

Depends a bit on build

[wooden oar]

Still do at long ranges with my current setup.

[sharp ember]

Revolver

[odd sparrow]

Ye

[fervent quiver]

That is a beauty amongst Tertrium