They eventually will, to the cash shop.
#veteran-class
shrewd sierra
junior needle
Thought they were already in the game
with a mix of penance gear and that "free" skin pack they gave to "pc" players
coral bloom
pliant sentinel
How well does the game run on console?
wooden brook
worth keeping?
final stag
Ppft.
I used all the consoles and a PC so I have no bias towards consoles
wooden brook
Last console I owned was an N64. Perfect dark left me in hospital after a massive seizure because CRT screen. Got a pc a few years later with a stonking 17" TFT monitor and instantly got into counterstrike 1.5 (the half life 1 mod).
final stag
How well does the game run on console?
A tip to you however is to raise the sensitivity so you can look quickly around you and aim quickly
And turn off aim assist. In this game it will actually fuck you, so I recommend you get good at free aiming.
pliant sentinel
K
wooden brook
I think the first games I played were the "play it again sam" series on the bbc master. And a few games on my friend's zx spectrum.
wooden brook
The first game I was properly addicted to was sonic the hegehog on game gear, plus roadrash and desert strike on megadrive.
I remember halo 1 coming out. I was at uni at the time! 
final stag
Homies a whole 2 decades older than me gndnnf
dawn garnet
LETS FUCKING GOOO I GOT SURGICAL 4
feral cave
Got a quick question: what are the two best shotgun blessings?
I figure it's a combination of one of Deathspitter, Fire Frenzy, or Full Bore.
Actually nvm, it's Deathspitter and Fire Frenzy.
trim hemlock
Got a quick question: what are the two best shotgun blessings?
No Respite
You want No Respite
feral cave
That the one that deals damage to staggered enemies?
trim hemlock
junior needle
worth keeping?
You'd only get 3/4 at best since you have headtaker. Achlys is also the least preferred caxe currently
pulsar kindle
Can you recommend shredder pistol?
junior needle
autopistol is doing pretty poorly currently
pulsar kindle
i tryt Recon Gun and i am not happy with it
junior needle
Recons are also doing pretty poorly atm 
Recons and autopistol are competing for worst guns
trim hemlock
SAP at least can kill Maniac 
pulsar kindle
Okay what you recommend and maybe got a build for i am new to this
junior needle
Do you want an automatic or a single shot weapon
pulsar kindle
So i tryt Plasma and liked it but i would try something different
junior needle
Plasma is extremely good right now and competing for best gun
Columnus IAG has the highest automatic dps in the game currently by a big margin, especially if you hit heads
pulsar kindle
Okay so i need those blessings
junior needle
There was no blessings used for that clip
no perks
no talent tree
Gray gun
But your priority is dumdum>flak/maniac perks>second blessing of your choice
pulsar kindle
yeah i do not have most of blessings now
tame lodge
Recons are also doing pretty poorly atm <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
And I've seen them being used even more now
And only one by a psyker
junior needle
And I've seen them being used even more now
I rarely ever see them in auric 5's anymore
But uh, usually looks like this
tall torrent
worth keeping?
no
balmy flume
Well it finally happened.
I got myself a decent Agri Barced Auto.
And am liking it, even without the ADS
steel lake
using executioners stance with the columnus (idk abt other autoguns) makes it feel like turning on aimbot
hoary horizon
Agreed
trim steppe
Well it finally happened.
I got myself a decent Agri Barced Auto.
And am liking ...
Agri Brauto is one of the best, I love it
Probably the highest dps gun for the vet
And so much stagger and suppression, it just steamrolls everything
muted knot
Probably the highest dps gun for the vet
That is a hot take for sure
junior needle
Probably the highest dps gun for the vet
Definitely not the highest dps gun
Should be the highest dps brauto though
low yacht
The recent tanker things released look good together
Just need to unlock the none paid cap and it will look good
winter grove
You've gotta be fucking kidding 
low yacht
I don't know why I haven't unlocked the garrison cap but it looks so good
With the tanker pants and jacket
trim steppe
Definitely not the highest dps gun
Not sure what's higher. Maybe the CIAG, maybe
pliant sentinel
The recent tanker things released look good together
Not sure why it's labeled Moebian if it has a Cadian symbol on it
trim steppe
That is a hot take for sure <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Which guns would you rank higher?
junior needle
Not sure what's higher. Maybe the CIAG, maybe
Maybe the CIAG
maybe
lol, lmao
iirc iag's perform comparably on bodyshots or much better on headshots
But its been awhile since I checked brautos
proud marsh
CIAG is so good lol
junior needle
Agri does do very good though
After checking again it does do notably more damage to bodyshots compared to regular iag's
But seemingly less damage on headshots (and also it's much harder to land those on brautos)
However that's on a baseline
Dumdum as well as particular talents like precision strikes tip it more towards iag's
Well, non ciag iag's
trim steppe
> Maybe the CIAG
> maybe
lol, lmao
Yeah, the CIAG is just stupidly overtuned, it def does way better on weakspot hits than the brauto. I do realize I miscommunicated tho, when I was talking about highest dps I was meaning, like, the most damage output over the course of a mission. Like when you check the scoreboard. I can usually outperform the CIAG with the brauto in terms of raw numbers over a mission, even though ya the CIAG does straight more DPS to a target.
junior needle
Oh I see, probably has something to do with target penetration.
Agri brauto has 3 cleave by default, ciag has 1.155 (it has no cleave essentially)
Also there's the factor of individual performance
trim steppe
Exactly, you can fire into hordes of shooters or even just straight hordes of poxxies or bruisers and get crazy damage output
I'll also often shoot through a horde to get a priority target and just kill all of it
junior needle
Yup, double to triple the damage on chaffe in groups depending on hitmass
without power alterations
I think it's fine for brautos to have that kind of dps because their spread is abysmal and you end up missing quite a lot
trim steppe
The brautos struggle at anything outside of like 15-20m. You can still down snipers and stuff but you waste ammo. Much less of an issue for the IAGs on top of their much higher single target output
But in terms of closing distance and terminating fools, the agri brauto just works so damn good
muted knot
Yeah, the CIAG is just stupidly overtuned, it def does way better on weakspot hi...
On that front I have to agree, but then again how valuable are those damage points when you spray into hordes ?
hybrid token
muted knot
I'm not tryna start shit btw. It just always bothered me about the brautos
white minnow
there's some padding yeah but a ranged weapon that you can spam into anything besides crushers is p neat
cloud falcon
My buddy is getting into vet, is kantrael still good? Or should he be looking at a other weapon for overall effectiveness?
Also the shout seems incredibly better than executioner stance am I missing smth?
Also Krak nades
tall torrent
My buddy is getting into vet, is kantrael still good? Or should he be looking a...
Infantry lasguns are ok, MG1a is generally considered the best option rn
VoC is very strong partly because it gives overtoughness but also has the best pathing
Krak grenades are a niche pick for boss dmg & removing crushers and bulwarks
cloud falcon
Very cool, thank you very much
wanton dawn
On that front I have to agree, but then again how valuable are those damage poin...
Better cleave means better reach as well. In a way agri brauto has better "properties" than ciag on the non damaging side
Also not crit or weakspot dependent
In any case, agri brauto is prob the biggest dmg gun over the course of a full game.
Do keep in mind that tight formation of shooter/elite shooter exists & the agri brauto outperform ciag when cleave matters
On another note: i am currently giving a try to enhanced target priority on exe bolter
It seems to reduce the average team disable per game
pearl granite
let see how this shotgun service me...
wanton dawn
Lucius pattern shotgun
gray finch
wanton dawn
Thats some good melee dmg for no ammo
Maybe i should give the combat blade a try on this mod
slow spade
void rampart
Worth copping from Melk? ik it's the mk13 but im not gonna turn it down if its almost perfect
(ignore that its fucked up Melk wants me to attach the teeth myself )
also technically on psyker but I just wanna know what goes on the mk 13 in general
low yacht
The tanker stuff was cool
But they tried to put tanker pants with a shirt that didn't match
They released the tanker items 2 weeks apart
proud marsh
I don't think the leathers I'm wearing have ran since october/november
it gets pretty bad for mundane items
you have to wait potentially months for things you want
low yacht
Mine are mixed items
woeful ibex
I don't think the leathers I'm wearing have ran since october/november
NGL feels like DMC but sets in 40k
winter grove
(ignore that its fucked up Melk wants me to attach the teeth myself <:KEKW_ogryn...
Melk is the kind of guy to give you near perfect chainsword but it's fully disassembled
"Yeah it's good, you just gotta assemble it yourself"
agile yew
I guess Brutal Momentum I could still do the job? 🤔
agile yew
I mean if it hits oneshot breakpoints with bruisers, then works
low yacht
If you have good aim it shouldn't be a problem
Oh it's an axe
I forgot
I use atrox
low yacht
It looks fine
agile yew
Dreg Bruiser unarmoured head is the BP that seems crucial, so you can with one swing take out 4
low yacht
Maniacs is what I prefer
agile yew
Actually i meant this https://warhammer-40k-darktide.fandom.com/wiki/Scab_Bruiser
1 light needs to oneshot to head, so brutal momentum makes it then kill 4 in one swing
Well just need to be able to oneshot headshot all non-elites and some elites too for Rashad to be worth it
low yacht
I use Vraks and Atrox for my stealth build
Atrox is my favorite weapon for stealth builds
agile yew
Never tried em tbh due reputation
agile yew
Maybe once i get more traditional meta weapons covered
Yeah ive seen video of Taxe being used really well
Still looked like it took couple extra swings compared to Rashad
low yacht
Not a probably if you are smacking heads and running it with a stealth build
agile yew
Anything with Brutal Momentum works if you can oneshot to head pretty much
low yacht
Eh I have a lot of perks to make it work
agile yew
Brutal Momentum just makes em great and effortless at clearing non-elite groups, infinite cleave so hit one head, hit all heads (up to 4)
pulsar kindle
Yup, double to triple the damage on chaffe in groups depending on hitmass
https://gyazo.com/8cd77bfed65302ed042ee85536e40a44 craftet this today and yes its pretty decent in Damnation
agile yew
Yeah its the meta, works even with unoptimal stats, shame the 80 went to mobility
pulsar kindle
yeah maybe i get a better one i struggled with the Recon Lasgun
pulsar kindle
So i played Plasma Gun first then i want to try something other weapon but most of them feel like garbage
agile yew
Yeah Plasma Gun is just too OP and effortless, Columnus V is good alternative though
agile yew
Bolter needs buff, not competitive with plasma
agile forge
CIAG with a max dps build feels amazing, and you have actual weaknesses to play around
low yacht
I still use Vraks
low yacht
But I want a auto gun carbine
low yacht
fr the premium shop lady just asked me if i have the urge to splurge
That just means urge to spend money
final locust
yes
i am aware
yo man also im getting tired of all these WW1 Helmet reskins
death korps and the ones that look similar are very cool
but damn
agile yew
yeah maybe i get a better one i struggled with the Recon Lasgun
Id just keep checking shop for good base to upgrade on, pretty easy to get good one with blessing/perks it feels like
final locust
they add a helmet to match but it lacks a mask, i cry]
agile yew
Wish the game had better customization, like being able to slap on extra head pieces and change color/texture
final locust
they add the helmet to match
but i dislike it
I just want a red helmet with a mask
that said, it doesnt look bad at all, its just not what I want
low yacht
The tanker stuff didn't have a matching helmet
So I did this and well it's from different bundles and one free item
final locust
looks cool
tbh im just desperate for some harakoni warhawk or kasrkin looking stuff
full scion set would be cool too given they only added a helmet for some reason
low yacht
The recent kasrkin stuff sucked
The colors are down horrendous
This weeks set for veteran didn't like the cap, or jacket
The pants though matched the prior weeks set
final locust
they gotta stop making vet gear that looks like its either scrap, or militia gear
low yacht
At least make it paramilitary at the very least
But I would definitely kill for a Arbites set
final locust
Yeah that'd look cool
I just want a kasrkin set, a proper one i mean
the kasrkin set they added is the one missing all the armour on the arms right?
low yacht
The colors just don't look right I usually like camo
final locust
idk man
they'd rather add some leather scraps type gear
it might look very cool, but it doesnt scream veteran to me
seems like something more suited to a zealot
this gear is what annoys me a little
junior needle
https://gyazo.com/8cd77bfed65302ed042ee85536e40a44 craftet this today and yes i...
That's perfectly fine for now. The gun is very overtuned currently.
Recons are just undertuned as well, no way around it
winter grove
it might look very cool, but it doesnt scream veteran to me
True
I remember they sold tempestus scion helmet a bit earlier
eternal sable
day 100 of fastshark being on vacation
they need to limit vacation days over there in sweden
theyre taking a full quarter off
hoary horizon
What is a "sweden"?
final locust
I remember they sold tempestus scion helmet a bit earlier
they did, I have the scion helmet
they seem to add a few good looking single piece cosmetics
then add a set that looks crap for the class
pearl granite
the new camo helmet they are selling right now look pretty nice
final locust
ogryn gets the best atm i think
yeah it does
I just wish all their individual helmets werent purely based on kreig, or one of the regiments similar to death korps
all i want
is some cool ass guardsman or kasrkin looking stuff
all armoured up
Hows is the communication to the community for FS atm @pearl granite
if you know
wanton dawn
I like hybrid vet but I will need to fit ammo aura in it at some point
hard to reach...
final locust
scion helmet makes your dude sound cool
junior needle
I like hybrid vet but I will need to fit ammo aura in it at some point
How'd you get "player feat" on there?
But with it outputting the name and not some numbers
wanton dawn
I took the loadout monitor and made the adjustment myself
junior needle
So not publicly available 😭
wanton dawn
Guess i can share it with ya
junior needle
Sick
wanton dawn
I had some trouble with in lobby view. Oh well, you'll figure it out
and obv, deactivate the scoreboard part from loadout monitor
junior needle
And weapon fov got updated, best darktide news I've had in months
atomic zephyr
today on "insane takes"
dawn garnet
how is a revolver bad
lyric dock
Revolver is great
jaunty sphinx
what the hell
lyric dock
Unless talking about the Fan the hammer one
hoary horizon
Is this how to anger veteran? Talk bad about one gun?
jaunty sphinx
prob yea
hoary horizon
Huh
lyric dock
How to anger a Vet in 3 easy steps
- Tell them their gun is shit
- Say something bad about Cadia
- Discover their hidden porn stash on the Mourning star
dawn garnet
How to anger a Vet in 3 easy steps
1) Tell them their gun is shit
2) Say somethi...
||its all psyker porn||
fresh saddle
psykers are cute ok
fresh saddle
what
dawn garnet
its cannon one of the vets is in love with one of the psykers
pearl granite
revolver does suck. I want to be able to do this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSG_23DTvKs
last parcel
she tingle my peril until i venting shriek
fresh saddle
Can you repeat?
i didn't say anything
just like hadron didn't when she wasn't watching you through the Hab-Plex
hoary horizon
Ok
dawn garnet
did i say something wrong 😢
last parcel
mk4 dueling sword sounding
hoary horizon
Professional is bitter of situation
junior needle
today on "insane takes"
Possibly talking about the agri revolver
jaunty sphinx
did i say something wrong 😢
c*dian probably
junior needle
In fairness 2a revolver is only alright unless you build it right
dawn garnet
c*dian probably
CADIA STANDS
atomic zephyr
Possibly talking about the agri revolver
guy on team who had revolver was using zarona
but yeah hopefully lol
junior needle
Probably didn't build it right
If you take a 2a revolver with like speedload and trickshooter
dawn garnet
you dont even have to build for it
junior needle
It's not gonna be impressive
jaunty sphinx
on my zealot, all I need now is HC IV to drop finally so my Problem Solver can be complete
dawn garnet
ye
dawn garnet
You got surgical and perks on it
90% of the reason why i got it
i didnt have surgical 4 at the time and i wanted to use it until i can surrender it
junior needle
But the damage will prevent you from reaching rager one taps with anoint, also lack of maniac
dawn garnet
but i got it from an emperor gift
junior needle
Also likely crit bodyshots on flamers
atomic zephyr
okay i just gave recon a shot and i cant stand the damn thing anymore
it makes me sad
dawn garnet
its on zealot and i only used it from level 25-30
junior needle
If you were just using it for lower difficulties then it'll be fine anyway because of the hp difference
jaunty sphinx
id reccomend the columnus iag for those in the "tried recon and was disappointed" support group
junior needle
Even just a dip to heresy solves a ton of breakpoint particulars
dawn garnet
recon can work with the right blessings but i really dont trust anyone on my team to be that guy
junior needle
They're still inferior even with a godroll setup
dawn garnet
yeah if someone is good with one imagine what they can do with a colummus
junior needle
The performance gap between them and iag's on a baseline is massive
atomic zephyr
If you were just using it for lower difficulties then it'll be fine anyway becau...
damnation
using 1/3 of a mag to kill a rager is fucking ridiculous
junior needle
okay i just gave recon a shot and i cant stand the damn thing anymore
Oh I was talking about revolvers with the other guy when I said that
atomic zephyr
oh whop
atomic zephyr
once i get past this loading screen
i quit out of my last round because i couldnt stand to use the stupid gun
iirc, its around a 370 rating with headhunter 4 and dumdum 4
junior needle
Mk6 needs rending for better dps due to abysmal modifiers
Typically onslaught and rending strikes. Onslaught gives you about 200+ more dps
atomic zephyr
right here it is
junior needle
kind otter
Forget powersword embrace combat axe
junior needle
Here's some comparisons. The dps gap gets much better on headshots because recons have scuffed finesse.
junior needle
right here it is
That's mostly there, missing only a 5% crit perk (or flak damage) in lieu of reload speed. The guns are just very undertuned currently.
junior needle
They go roughly even on flak bodyshots, but that's the only "bad" armor type for iag's
Headshots still win for iag's sizably.
junior needle
I do try to tell people they're pretty bad atm
Ciag only has a slightly lower ammo count but has like 3x or more headshot damage per ammo used as well.
So it has like 3x the effective ammo pool by default
zealous wyvern
so stupid
final locust
here what i've always wondered
where tf is a hellgun
why isnt there one in the game already
zealous wyvern
because there has been no new guns yet
unless you mean why wasnt it there from the start
i think a hellgun would probably be weird to balance
theyre literally just better guns
"here is a gun with extra power, extra ammo and high firerate"
atomic zephyr
had to go back to infantry las after dirtying myself with recon
so much damn better its not even funny
and yeah, hellguns arent in cause they would be literally just better lasguns
muted knot
why isnt there one in the game already
Well you see it is in the game, just on the enemy gunners
final locust
Well you see it is in the game, just on the enemy gunners
gotta love it
idk why we dont have one yet man
its such a no brainer
atomic zephyr
it would be interesting if the hellgun acted as a sort-of LMG
well, the brautos do it
final locust
theyre literally just better guns
yeah but I want something that looks and feels cool like a hellgun
atomic zephyr
but laser LMG
umbral scaffold
Just had a game with two spykers and two vets (me being one of them)
atomic zephyr
...laser braced autogun?
final locust
Scout lasgun looks pretty bad imo
I like the looks but the regular inf lasgun is boring to use
umbral scaffold
...laser braced autogun?
Braced Recon Lasgun basically?
zealous wyvern
lmg are just a better gun
for anything but what plasmas do
a hellgun would replace like any other automatic hard wouldnt it
final locust
Hellgun I imagine would look good and feel good to use
zealous wyvern
yeah
final locust
thats what I want
final locust
I want a lasgun that looks good and feels good, and is fun to use
final locust
scout lasgun in my opinion looks pretty poor, even if it is good
umbral scaffold
I just want one of those burst-firing lasguns that some of the scabs without masks use
final locust
Inf lasgun is decent i think but its boring to use
umbral scaffold
Seems to lack a stock too
junior needle
a hellgun would replace like any other automatic hard wouldnt it
Depends on what variety and how they handle it. A hellgun/hotshot is technically any sufficiently suped up lasgun nowadays. A hotshot volleygun would be the automatic like the scab gunners have.
fresh saddle
I just want one of those burst-firing lasguns that some of the scabs without mas...
volley gun?
umbral scaffold
volley gun?
Pretty much
final locust
recon just needs a buff
as I say, my problem with the recon lasgun is that I dislike its looks
i'd happily have taken an automatic regular looking lasgun
as opposed to recon
zealous wyvern
yeah i read it after
umbral scaffold
i'd happily have taken an automatic regular looking lasgun
So something like an autogun but a las-version?
junior needle
volley gun?
Volley gun is giga automatic: https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Hotshot_Volley_Gun
final locust
So something like an autogun but a las-version?
yeah, that doesnt look like the scout lasgun
hellgun is the only other thing I know so i'd want that
junior needle
as I say, my problem with the recon lasgun is that I dislike its looks
You can change the looks with the weapon customization mods. Recons are however notorious underperformers combat wise though.
fresh saddle
Volley gun is giga automatic: https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Hotshot_Volley_Gu...
oh meant the Scab Stalkers, not the Gunners sry
junior needle
They have something that looks like a carbine
final locust
You can change the looks with the weapon customization mods. Recons are however ...
I found a build a couple months back which gave the recon lasgun a very good time to kill, but I just really dont like the way it looks
final locust
i'd mod it but it just wont be the same i dont think
junior needle
I found a build a couple months back which gave the recon lasgun a very good tim...
couple months back
If by a couple months back you mean patch 13, then that patch was nuts for them and that's long gone. You can get ok dps with 2/3 of them with the tree, but their poor baseline on dps/ammo efficiency means they're getting less out of it than others with a better starting point.
Even with the various talent taxes
final locust
> couple months back
If by a couple months back you mean patch 13, then that pat...
yeah thats what I was on about, probably longer back than I think it is
junior needle
Their dps wasn't that good back then though
final locust
Oh, it felt like it was
junior needle
You can get the mostly the same dps now, but the ammo efficiency is much worse.
final locust
I had a build that could absolutely rinse through bosses and the big dudes with health bars
junior needle
You probably felt that way because you were able to fire for significantly longer with shocktrooper without going dry.
final locust
I just want a hellgun man
junior needle
While they did have their crit strings nerfed, there hasn't been that much done to dps
final locust
is it gonna be another year of no content until the october
junior needle
We might get something in a month or two
Or three
Vt2 is having its anniversary atm so very likely not until that's over at the very least
muted knot
I'm just sad they forgot about the whole live service thing
Just give us a little content drip every now and then
Something to keep people engaged
junior needle
Less forgot, more realized the piggies will keep paying regardless of whether you keep your promises, put in effort, or give them things in a timely manner
Oh excuse me, put in effort is the wrong way to say it.
Put out a quality product
late hatch
Its hard, like I have a lot of hours in the game, in a lot of ways I want to support them further, as its the best fps WH40k game ever, and I love the gameplay of the tide games. But it comes with some really bad things too, like the absolutely horrendous experience of rolling for end game gear. Emps gifts are complete trash, and brunts even with the mod to roll multiple and auto sell is a trash time.
But I want the game to show well on the books so they make more content and more games like it, just without the bad bits. I played beta and bought the game and then bought aquilas once, think it was like $40 aud which is about $27 usd. But I cant really justify buying more when what I have to go through to get a good new end game weapon to use is just too painfully boring and sinks so much time and resources.
midnight totem
junior needle
Its hard, like I have a lot of hours in the game, in a lot of ways I want to sup...
as its the best fps WH40k game ever
There's not exactly saying much. There's fire warrior and uh
UHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I don't know any others
Just remember that pain is the best teacher of all
late hatch
> as its the best fps WH40k game ever
There's not exactly saying much. There's f...
well there are the 3rd person space marine games, and a bunch of others, but they pretty much all suffer from interference or restrictions from GWS not wanting it to compete with tabletop
final locust
I'm just sad they forgot about the whole live service thing
fr a decent part of the advertising for the game was live service
which there isnt
late hatch
DoW was alright, but pretty much all the other WH games have been pretty meh
junior needle
Dawn of war was peak warhammer aesthetics
Except for 3
That game doesn't exist
total warhammer is pretty good too but that's fantasy ofc
The battlefleet gothic games weren't bad either, although they could've been better
And are also ded
Think the servers got shut down
late hatch
TWWH looks good, but im not really into the 4x strat. There was an old RTS, think it was called shadow of the horned rat. I played that a bunch
final locust
DoW2 had really fun campaigns and stuff, but the multiplayer gameplay for me was terrible
one where you gotta destroy the enemy base
no fun
you cant get lots of units like in the first game
and especially space marines and chaos space marines didnt feel strong
junior needle
Agree
Multiplayer was the weakpoint of dow2 with the requisition system
The last stand was pretty fun though
late hatch
There was a big modded scene, cant remember the name but think it was the sisters expansion heavily modded for MP
late hatch
Think it was called soulstorm maybe?
junior needle
soulstorm is dow1
And an official expansion
Oh wait I read your comment wrong, yeah soulstorm is the primary modded version of dow1
bleak bolt
with the lack of content lately.. is it because they're still cranking out content for VT2 or do they have diff studios/teams for that?
pine snow
I havent played in a while has anything changef since karnak twins
junior needle
with the lack of content lately.. is it because they're still cranking out conte...
They have different teams, but are on record saying that they have shifted people from one to the other. So one could be running a skeleton crew depending on what they’re prioritizing at the moment.
junior needle
I havent played in a while has anything changef since karnak twins
NOPE
jaunty sphinx
im so fucking tired of leavers dude
5th game in a row of a dipshit going down and instantly alt f4ing
junior needle
Well I guess some bugs did get fixed. But nothing that substantially affected gameplay. They did add some bugs that did that though.
trail quartz
5th game in a row of a dipshit going down and instantly alt f4ing
buisness as usual
jaunty sphinx
I swear its gotten worse lately
trail quartz
dunno didnt played darktide that much lately but i can tell since i made some experiemts the leveling goes too fast since most lv30s behave like lv 12`s 
jaunty sphinx
Ok I carried a malice to calm down and made myself a latte I'm normal again
trail quartz
Ok I carried a malice to calm down and made myself a latte I'm normal again
happy to hear. always on malice btw?
junior needle
Malice
jaunty sphinx
Nah I'm always on damnation and auric mael if I'm awake enough
I haven't played malice since I finished leveling my Psyker a few months ago lol
I just needed a no player deaths contract
trail quartz
Nah I'm always on damnation and auric mael if I'm awake enough
i see : 3
but take my experiment make a new character than you know what i talked about. its quite interessting to start over from 1 to 25 and so on.
yo usee how ppl with 30+60 behave like lv12 ppl sometimes
i come back into DT if some major update happenz
jaunty sphinx
I've just been playing cause I like the game, I was having fun last night because people were actually staying in the game and not leaving
winter grove
Nah I'm always on damnation and auric mael if I'm awake enough
Malice feels way too calm compared to Damnation
jaunty sphinx
Yeah that's why I played it I needed to calm down
winter grove
Malice AI doesn't drop 6 crushers as a "fuck you solve it yourself" moment
jaunty sphinx
Then I went outside and drank my coffee and took in the nice sunny weather. Touched grass, if you will.
winter grove
Yeah that's why I played it I needed to calm down <:KEKW_ogryn:10220771883229061...
Yeah I can see why
Damntation and Aurics are only things in thise game that made situations that made my adrenaline pumping
tame lodge
I want more power outage missions
winter grove
Damntation and Aurics are only things in thise game that made situations that ma...
Some mf triggers a DH while there's a horde, a lot of specials and gunners
And biggest question I had that moment "how the fuck did I survive"
jaunty sphinx
Level 30+(456) Vets when they die to bruisers or poxwalkers
winter grove
@tame lodge btw thanks for sharing with the lasgun build you had
It's quite literally what I wanted to do with a lasgun
oblique cedar
I wanna try some of that Krieg strategy and run a shovel, which mark is considered the best?
tall torrent
Mk7 I think it was
Mk7 is prob the best veteran shovel
oblique cedar
mkay thats the one I was eyeing up, thanks karkers
terse idol
mkay thats the one I was eyeing up, thanks karkers
The Standard shovel without flip isn't bad
Just gotta get like Decimator
and skull crusher
Very solid vs hordes
Where the flip shovels may feel awkward
oblique cedar
is the poke good for anything?
terse idol
is the poke good for anything?
Good for staggering some elites but I don't remeber which atm
tame lodge
Any armored
umbral scaffold
Malice feels way too calm compared to Damnation
Malice is hectic... when you're level 8 :P
Also Malice Maelstorms do exist.
junior needle
Absolutely who is recommending these absolute dog ciag blessing setups
Two people in the same lobby running both salvo blessings
They were both crafted on
Who is telling people to do this
lyric dock
You know that Hereitc Relay station we shut down
That's where those people are getting those ideas from
smoky bough
Whats wrong with the Salvo blessings?
winter grove
You know that Hereitc Relay station we shut down
«Alright folks. Heretics secured the relay station AGAIN and are spreading falseful advices for our shock squads. Your job is to secure the relay station and get that heretical filth off the speakers.»
junior needle
Whats wrong with the Salvo blessings?
Ciag is a bullet hose
The salvo blessings only give you a bonus for a few shots
Other blessings gives you bonuses for nearly all your shots all the time (dumdum) or all your shots with some criteria
smoky bough
Oh ciag is the gun
junior needle
Salvo blessings are only for guns
smoky bough
I thought you were calling them a slur
junior needle
tiny summit
They were both crafted on
They want to try it for the funny
junior needle
Scuffed the gun trying it
tiny summit
People have scuffed worse
umbral scaffold
90% accuracy requirement on this one penance is a bit brutal for someone with twitchy arm muscles oof.
winter grove
90% accuracy requirement on this one penance is a bit brutal for someone with tw...
Use plasma and use charged shots only
Preferably with low ammo stat
uncut ore
is it just me or is vet the worst of the 4 classes now??
haven't played the game in awhile
but I can still carry as zealot despite vet being my main
odd sparrow
nah vet slaps hard, but you do need one of the better guns to be able to hard carry. most notably
columnus mk V, Plasma
heavy rover
i personally like running las gun crits with shocktrooper
odd sparrow
also VoC is still cracked
uncut ore
i personally like running las gun crits with shocktrooper
can I see ur build? sounds interesting
junior needle
Just don’t recommend a recon
Shock works well with all lasguns, they all have some way to crit fish natively
Headhunter blessing, surgical, or high base crit (laspistol)
Laspistol benefits the most from dead shot
heavy rover
can I see ur build? sounds interesting
sure
Primary: Cadia Mk XIIIg assault chainsword (Savage Sweep lvl 3, Bloodletter lvl IV), 20% block efficiency and 8% Melee Damage (Elites)
Secondary: Kantrael MG 1a lasgun (deadly accureate lvl 3, headhunter lvl 4), 25% Damage to flack and unyielding enemies:
Talents: Close Order Drill, Confirmed Kill, Shredder grenade, get back in the fight, grenade tinkerer, survivalist, demolition stockpile, grenadier, leave no one behind, voice of command (with Duty and honour), Precision Strikes, Determined, Fully Loaded, Shocktrooper, For the Emperor, Tactical Awareness, Iron Will, Demolition Team, Bring it Down
I can pretty much keep on firing during the mission and rarely need ammo thanks to all the crit hits
then if things get crowded I can clear the room with grenades and voice of command
junior needle
Can't recommend savage sweep on a 13g
Oh wait, that's a placeholder weapon
Geez that's a scuffed one
heavy rover
yeah I tend to bounce between the chainsword and mk 7 shovel (I got Uncanny strike and decimator for it), helps a lot with crowd control
void rampart
is Flak n Carapace still good perks for the plasma gun? tried searching chats but getting conflicting answers 😅
n stuff recommending against flak is from like, 3+ patches ago
oblique cedar
carapace if you need it for 1 shotting crushers
flak pretty redundant, all flaks are 1 shot material regardless
void rampart
that's kinda what I was thinking
oblique cedar
sure
Primary: Cadia Mk XIIIg assault chainsword (Savage Sweep lvl 3, Bloodletter...
can confirm Ia lasgun slaps 
heavy rover
can confirm Ia lasgun slaps <a:catyes:760755578250199041>
now that is beautiful
oblique cedar
I got god rolls, spent all my luck on this but totally worth
heavy rover
I got god rolls, spent all my luck on this but totally worth
one time I got a 380 roll. Everything was maxed out to 80 except for (wait for it), Damage
and Damage was down to 40's
plush dragon
nice
oblique cedar
and Damage was down to 40's
thats just cruel fate
heavy rover
thats just cruel fate
literally living up to the flashlight name
jaunty sphinx
Something very funny about lasguns having tactical flashlights on them in darktide
heavy rover
that stability got each shot firing like a 50cal
junior needle
Stability seems to make very little difference on the bouncing
I have multiple 80% stability infantry lasguns and they all bounce a ton
plush dragon
yeah stability is a meme
tall torrent
Stability seems to make very little difference on the bouncing
Bouncing is always there, but better stability reduces the laser shot recoil
junior needle
Bouncing needs to go, it's annoying
spring spindle
can confirm Ia lasgun slaps <a:catyes:760755578250199041>
Are these blessings on the other Lasguns?
I’d love that on the MX whatever it’s called (high damage one)
frank basin
I’d love that on the MX whatever it’s called (high damage one)
Mark 12
oblique cedar
I think the 3 marks of the "classic" lasgun share blessings
jaunty sphinx
Don't knock the Rashad on Psyker
I've been trying to get one on my Psyker all week
trim steppe
Dont get me wrong, I bought it and I'm gonna use it. But I desperately want it on my Vet
trim steppe
Are these blessings on the other Lasguns?
There are 3 groups of lasguns: Helbores, Recons, and Infantry. Each has their own blessing pool, but those pools are shared between the different marks within each type. If that makes sense
So if you find a mk XII Infantry blessing, you can strip it and apply it to a Mk IV Infantry, but not to a recon or helbore
All weapons work like this
tiny summit
Ia
trim steppe
But should I get XII instead of Ia
No. The XII used to be the best, but the Ia and the IV got buffed and are better than it now. Iirc the best is the Ia, then the IV, then the XII
tiny summit
They have similar BPs where the XII can more easily reach them but the Ia has the fire rate to make up for it
trim steppe
They're all good but there you go
tall torrent
MG12 needs to build exe stance or MF or a really stupidly point heavy build with tag keystone to get 1 shots
And if it’s not getting the 1 shots, MG1a is just better
tall torrent
That’s good
tiny summit
Yea.
winter grove
Feeling extremely comfortable with the exe stance
tiny summit
HH, DA and Ghost are kinda the best you can get
winter grove
I see
trim steppe
@tall torrent we were chatting about Rashads last week; check out the Rashad I posted a few minutes ago. Melk gave it to my psyker
tall torrent
<@366562874039992331> we were chatting about Rashads last week; check out the Ra...
yea that one is uh
winter grove
I've got like 36% stability on my Ia
tall torrent
if u want to make it good on veteran
winter grove
Thinking of getting a better one soon
tall torrent
u'd need to swap decimator and 8% weakspot
and have a really cursed tier 2 15% flak dmg
trim steppe
and have a really cursed tier 2 15% flak dmg
Yeah T2 flak would be painful to look at every time but I think it might do the trick for dreg bruisers anyway
winter grove
Tier 3's are always good right?
tall torrent
Tier 3's are always good right?
tldr ur looking for smth that looks like this
trim steppe
Tier 3's are always good right?
T3 blessings are almost always servicable
winter grove
tldr ur looking for smth that looks like this
I'll keep that in mind, thank you
tall torrent
T3 is usually good enough but some blessings really want T4
Thrust
Skullcrusher
Haymaker
Power Cycler
Skullcrusher between T3 and T4 is a big difference for crusher imo
tall torrent
Skullcrusher T4 being 2 stacks of 40% dmg when staggered
for a total of +80%
actually just absurd
whereas T3 goes up to +60%
winter grove
Been using a mk6 combat knife along with Ia
So far it feels nice but I really need uncanny strike
tall torrent
Uncanny strike 3 and 4 have almost no difference
winter grove
I have neither
tall torrent
Rending >100% ADM just converts to dmg at 0.25x effectiveness
trim steppe
Brutal Momentum is the only example I can think of where a T1 is basically just as good as T4. As long as it's on a weapon that wants it, it's amazing
winter grove
Also I love quickplay Damnation
3 fucking ogryns
tall torrent
Lasgun with triple ogryn teammates feels horrible
trim steppe
I love all-ogryn matches, I never have smoother runs than those
Oh yeah, lasguns with the big boys feels bad tho lmao
winter grove
Lasgun with triple ogryn teammates feels horrible
I somehow came out 2nd dmg dealt and 1st on special/ranged elite killed
junior needle
Been using a mk6 combat knife along with Ia
Just keep in mind that if you lightspam for clear (or everything), mk3 is objectively superior for that
winter grove
Call it luck
winter grove
Just keep in mind that if you lightspam for clear (or everything), mk3 is object...
I mix heavies and lights
Those vanguard heavies ❤️
lyric dock
Also I love quickplay Damnation
3 fucking ogryns <:staregryn:1022085083844325376...
A vet without the ability to pierce through his teammates this is just suffering in a picture
junior needle
Welp you're set then
winter grove
A vet without the ability to pierce through his teammates this is just suffering...
I swear to fucking god
junior needle
Everybody expects the mk6 knife to have better cleave values on lights but NOPE
winter grove
9/10 of my exec stances were ineffective
junior needle
exactly the same
lyric dock
9/10 of my exec stances were ineffective
We love our Ogryns
They make the best damn doors
But the worst windows
muted knot
Lasgun with triple ogryn teammates feels horrible
Hellbore gang
winter grove
I noticed some ogryns being least problematic for vets
lyric dock
Hellbore, Revovler, and Plasma goes brrr
winter grove
I assume they played other classes too
lyric dock
When I play Ogryn. I try to be mindful of my teammates when I'm up front fighting the horde
winter grove
I play gun ogryn so guess who's behind vet
lyric dock
I play a very tanky Ogryn with the Shield and Kickback
umbral scaffold
Yeah, people who only play Ogryn are seriously one of the more annoying people to play with. Especially the ones that have no buisness playing above Malice (I've run into a few)
winter grove
Shield ogryns oh my god
lyric dock
I have yet to meet a Heretic to chew through this HP bar without any issues 
winter grove
I want to slap almost every one of them
tame lodge
You're hitting the big guy because you're badly positioned
I hit them because they are protecting the heretics, I'm actually trying to hurt them
tall torrent
Hellbore gang
Yea basically
The funniest thing is when you move left/right so you’re not blocked by ogryn
Then the ogryn moves in the same direction as u
umbral scaffold
Use plasma and use charged shots only
I actually have a hard time aiming the charged plasma shots 
winter grove
You're hitting the big guy because you're badly positioned
I hit them because th...
«Point and shoot, militarum style.»
The shield ogryns about to materialize in my face:
lyric dock
Plasma you want to do uncharged shots in general
winter grove
Plasma you want to do uncharged shots in general
It's for penance
lyric dock
Would it be easier to use a Revolver or Shotgun
lyric dock
I used shotgun for mine (Pre-U13 days)
umbral scaffold
I need to make a pinpoint Shotgun actually, I saw someone carrying with one on Damnation
lyric dock
Overwatch isn't that bad
winter grove
I did it last
lyric dock
It's still a pain in the ass
tame lodge
You literally have a buff that tells you an enemy is nearby, just look at the icons during missions
lyric dock
But at least compare to make every bullet count
tame lodge
For sure
winter grove
You literally have a buff that tells you an enemy is nearby, just look at the ic...
No need to scold me, I did it already
tame lodge
Oh, sounded like that, my bad
lyric dock
Overwatch is easier since you have the VoC as a your "Oh shit. Something is checking my ass" button
void rampart
Hardest penance gotta be the Overwatch
got it by accident
winter grove
Both of those are painful
lyric dock
Every bullet took me a few attempts and it just sucks
tame lodge
I got "untouchable" (I think) yesterday
winter grove
Is it the dodging one?
tame lodge
I gotta check the names, the take no damage
tall torrent
Top 2 best melee weapons for veteran
tame lodge
At certain things
tall torrent
And top 1 is?
Preference based, some prefer power sword, some prefer Rashad
lyric dock
Power sword is great, but it does need Power Cycler 4 to really do work
So hope Melk is feeling nice with you or you already snagged that blessing already
winter grove
What are the perks/blessings?
muted knot
Power cycler and after that it's eh
lyric dock
Flak+Maniac with PC 4 and Brutal momentum
muted knot
Slaughterer or brutal momentum
tall torrent
Carapace/maniac/unyielding
Power cycler 4 + BM/Sunder
Everything else are not as good as these picks
muted knot
I still don't see Rashad as anywhere near PS
tall torrent
I still don't see Rashad as anywhere near PS
Does ur Rashad have bruiser breakpoints
muted knot
What does it offer? A good clear when you have a hard to get roll with extra point investment to make it good ?
muted knot
Does ur Rashad have bruiser breakpoints
Yes
tall torrent
What does it offer? A good clear when you have a hard to get roll with extra poi...
It does almost everything power sword does without nerfing your dodges
That’s basically it
white minnow
offensively worse but better mobility and blocking
muted knot
You can take a PS6 with litterally any build and it works
lyric dock
I was assuming power sword 
tall torrent
For rashad
Unarmored + Flak/Carapace
BM + Headtaker
winter grove
Boi you are in for a terrible time
You have no idea how lucky I am
muted knot
You basically need all the damage modifiers to be high
muted knot
You have no idea how lucky I am
All the power to you man, shall the omnisiah bless you
tall torrent
You have no idea how lucky I am
What’s ur current budget for rolling a Rashad
winter grove
What’s ur current budget for rolling a Rashad
As many as it takes
tall torrent
As many as it takes
Do u happen to have 8 million dockets laying around somewhere
winter grove
I kinda just play veteran for the penance and I am getting the money
winter grove
Do u happen to have 8 million dockets laying around somewhere
I have less
muted knot
Roll until you have something with like 75 in all damage stats
muted knot
So damage, finesse, first target, penetration
tall torrent
Spam light for everything?
Almost everything
winter grove
Almost everything
Right, hesvy for carapace
muted knot
Spam light for everything?
Basically yes until you get to lie crushers
tall torrent
Right, hesvy for carapace
And unyielding
muted knot
You need to hit the breakpoints for both bruisers for the weapon to be good
tall torrent
Rashad has a ton of breakpoints to care about
winter grove
Basically I need both perks to be tier 4?
tall torrent
T3 works
But the hard part is getting everything right
You need 1/2 perk correct, 2/2 blessings correct and 4/5 correct high stats
winter grove
I can do that
tall torrent
I will say though
If u only care about killing elites & specials
Mk7 shovel might be the best option
(It is also abysmally hard to roll)
trim steppe
(It is also abysmally hard to roll)
What's your rec for mk7 shovel?
winter grove
If u only care about killing elites & specials
I've got a gun for that
tall torrent
What's your rec for mk7 shovel?
Prioritize Dmg, first target & penetration
Low priority defense & mobility
Carapace + elite/flak/maniac
Thrust IV
Uncanny III~IV
You can unironically 1 shot every single non-unyielding elite/special
And because uncanny is a buff to urself
Ur frags can hurt everything
Including crushers
trim steppe
Prioritize Dmg, first target & penetration
Low priority defense & mobility
Cara...
LOL hold on a minute let me link something. Also that's great to know about frags, I overlooked that
tall torrent
Prioritize Dmg, first target & penetration
Low priority defense & mobility
Cara...
The nice thing though is that
Shovel only really has 2 weaknesses
Mid tier horde clear
Bad boss dmg
trim steppe
What do you like to pair it with to compensate?
tall torrent
There’s no real “ideal pairing”
The best way to describe shovel is like
This is a weird analogy but it plays really like what if thunder hammer played like a chainaxe
low yacht
The penance for that cap is ridiculous but it looks good
tall torrent
U can run it with practically everything but you can’t rly compensate its mid horde clear
trim steppe
Prioritize Dmg, first target & penetration
Low priority defense & mobility
Cara...
I present to you
low yacht
Yes you can
tall torrent
I present to you
Elite to 10%
Decimator to uncanny
543 roll
I want that lol
I’ve been trying to get a better mk7 shovel
tall torrent
543 is good
I consider everything 540+ with ideal perks & blessings to be endgame godroll
low yacht
Near impossible
trim steppe
Elite to 10%
Decimator to uncanny
tall torrent
I’ll also say that
Shovel might be one of the best weapons u can bring into Karnak HM
low yacht
Eviscerator
tall torrent
Because it’s just peak anti elite
Very few weapons really compete with 2 frag fully juiced up by uncanny
And u can 1 shot both maulers & crushers
tall torrent
Eviscerator
Veteran doesn’t have evicerator
muted knot
Chainsword is plenty good man
trim steppe
@tall torrent What would you suggest roll-wise on this guy
low yacht
It's good until it isn't
tall torrent
That’s good already
Unarmored isn’t bad for horde clear
Since it’s a cleave weapon
Also helps with scab bruisers
trim steppe
yeah i've been enjoying flak+unarmored
low yacht
Most hordes are easy to deal with
tall torrent
Also helps with scab bruisers
And body hit Dreg bruiser
trim steppe
I'll probably do ramp to T4 unless bumping up flak with help a bp
tall torrent
I'll probably do ramp to T4 unless bumping up flak with help a bp
Probably rampage 4
5% flak most likely isn’t going to make the biggest difference
trim steppe
yeah thats my thought. Thanks, wanted to make sure before I commited haha
tall torrent
U could even play the “not really cursed” BL+ rampage build
Where u 1 shot every elite with rev light
Except crushers
trim steppe
U could even play the “not really cursed” BL+ rampage build
That one is fun, and yeah I can switch whenever I want
muted knot
It's good until it isn't
Very insightful thank you
muted knot
Where u 1 shot every elite with rev light
Even maulers ?
tall torrent
Even maulers ?
Wanna see it
muted knot
I believe you if you tell me
tall torrent
I believe you if you tell me <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
25% flak, 8% elite, BL4
trim steppe
Glorious
low yacht
I've had good things with the chainswords but it's not as effective as when I use chainaxe of eviscerator
junior needle
If you intend to lightspam, take wrath over savage sweep for ease of proccing rampage on bruisers
muted knot
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1216563206433018006/Wa...
Really snuck that middle keystone in huh ? 👀
I'm joking
Didn't know that works
Might give it a shot next year when some form of new content drops
tall torrent
Really snuck that middle keystone in huh ? 👀
Well if u built for it why not use it lol
merry ore
need tip for other blessing
winter grove
need tip for other blessing
Idk man but I think the knife is bricked
low yacht
It's not though
winter grove
Is it?
low yacht
It's kinda important to your critical damage
On auto weapons damage is certainly a dump stat as it can put it out so fast
low yacht
Mobility is a dump stat if your build isn't made for but it isn't just dodging but your stamina
Stamina is important
Yes whilst it says it's just dodging that counts to your overall stamina too.
winter grove
Mobility is always a dump stat
low yacht
No it's not
winter grove
Yes it is?
low yacht
I rely on mobility and without it I just die
tall torrent
Unless it's below 50% you get no downsides
51%
tall torrent
Although, having faster sprint speed from mobility is nice
low yacht
Well the zealot doesn't need that much mobility they're already fast veterans are slow
Veterans and Ogryns are the slowest in game
winter grove
Although, having faster sprint speed from mobility is nice
It's a combat knife
It's mk6 which gives a slight speed buffs on h1
low yacht
Finesse is amazing at getting a quick backstab
bitter turtle
need tip for other blessing
Check my pinned guide
winter grove
Finesse is amazing at getting a quick backstab
Do you know what finesse influences
bitter turtle
Tldr uncanny precog/reposte/mercy, don't use flesh tearer
low yacht
Critical damage and a backstab is critical
bitter turtle
Perks are bad but
winter grove
It's crit/headshot damage bonus
winter grove
No it isn't?
low yacht
Yes it is
winter grove
Headshot is a headshot
merry ore
Tldr uncanny precog/reposte/mercy, don't use flesh tearer
ty boss
tall torrent
Weakspot is not crit
bitter turtle
Headshot is weakpoint, critical is critical
tall torrent
2 different things
low yacht
Backstab is counted as critical
merry ore
Headshot is weakpoint, critical is critical
oi but im a psyker and i have a perk that makes every five hits crit 🙂
tall torrent
Not all backstabs are crit
tall torrent
oi but im a psyker and i have a perk that makes every five hits crit 🙂
That only applies to ranged attack
low yacht
Normally they are
winter grove
And not all ctits are backstabs
tall torrent
Every 5 weakspot hits, next ranged attack is crit
bitter turtle
You need it to proc 1 stack of bleed for the 60 percent weakspot damage
tall torrent
Normally they are
You can go meat grinder and backstab things rn
merry ore
That only applies to ranged attack
Ohhh
tall torrent
If it’s not yellow dmg number it’s not crit
low yacht
Unless it's the rending I use but on knife it does increased backstab damage
winter grove
I say that this mk6 knife is bricked
tall torrent
That is not related to crit either
winter grove
Bad blessings for vet and shit perks
low yacht
A headshot is considered a critical and weakspot
winter grove
Are you really gonna double down on incorrect info
low yacht
Every other game I play counts headshots as criticals
winter grove
Weakspot damage and Critical damage are two different things
You can get both weakspot and crit damage on one hit
low yacht
No it's just incorrect because headshots are critical damage. Do headshots do increased damage that is normally considered a critical
winter grove
Ok no you're baiting
bitter turtle
No it's just incorrect because headshots are critical damage. Do headshots do in...
Headshots aren't critical by default bc you can also crit on a headshot and get 2 dmg bonuses
winter grove
There's no way you double down on incorrect info and do it so confidently
That has to be a bait
white minnow
No it's just incorrect because headshots are critical damage. Do headshots do in...
weakspots and critical hits are different mechanics
tall torrent
A headshot is considered a critical and weakspot
You’re just wrong
white minnow
there is a very obvious indicator for when you crit in the form of a particular noise and an orange trail behind your weapon
white minnow
Mobility is a dump stat if your build isn't made for but it isn't just dodging b...
you also seem to be mixing up the mobility stat and defence stat
winter grove
Isn't defense also dump stat most of the time?
tall torrent
Isn't defense also dump stat most of the time?
51%+ is good enough, going higher makes u run faster
white minnow
and in the psykh, you can see crits as a yellow number and weakspots as an orange number (yellow has higher priority, so a crit weakspot will show as yellow)
winter grove
Ogryn brain moment
winter grove
51%+ is good enough, going higher makes u run faster
Meant defense, typed mobility
winter grove
Let's say on turtolsky 9
tall torrent
Irrelevant, u can go 0 and be fine
winter grove
Ok cool
rugged garnet
Pog
fierce spoke
Am leaning towards Carapace to replace Specialist.
How's this Blessing combo?
tall torrent
Am leaning towards Carapace to replace Specialist.
How's this Blessing combo?
Go for flak perk
It’ll be usable but you’d ideally want better blessings
bitter turtle
Swap crit to flak
Swap dev strike to rampage or bloodletter imo
fierce spoke
Rip, been using this one for so long. Thanks though. The grind for a better one starts
fierce spoke
Swap crit to flak
Swap dev strike to rampage or bloodletter imo
That's smart. Thanks. Crits not as important on Chainsword? Or just working with what I got?
bitter turtle
Crits are good but 5 percent crit is very bad perk
And chainsword doesn't crit enough to.rely on devastating strike
low yacht
Headshot is just a substitute word for critical hit as they basically do the same thing. Increase damage on a hit which would be considered critical.
A guaranteed chance to do increased damage is the difference between weakspot and critical but it's so minor.
It genuinely is though as many shooters consider headshots critical.
fierce spoke
Didn't think Rampage would proc as much on Assualt Chainsword, as it does for Eviscerators
stiff cipher
It procs the same?
bitter turtle
Didn't think Rampage would proc as much on Assualt Chainsword, as it does for Ev...
The optimal combo for chainsword is mostly heavies with one sweeping light mixed in
You can proc it very easily
fierce spoke
It procs the same?
Just the length of the weapon, is what I mean
bitter turtle
If lazy you can even just spam heavies
stiff cipher
Just the length of the weapon, is what I mean
Ah
low yacht
There is a reason why weakspot and critical is included together they do increased damage on hitting specific parts of the body. And, in many games they are included in the same perk.
When I play fallout headshots are considered critical damage, and in many shooters they are usually one in the same.
A weakspot would be a critical hit though as it does significantly increased damage on a part of the body hit.
white minnow
Headshot is just a substitute word for critical hit as they basically do the sam...
sure they're the same thing in the sense that they increase your damage
but for darktide specifically, in this discord for darktide, i think it's safe to say that they are two different mechanics
winter grove
When I play fallout headshots are considered critical damage, and in many shoote...
Is this fallout
low yacht
Yes but even shooters and most games consider them the same.
timid otter
Yet no one will understand you if you use those terms in this game as equal.
winter grove
Yes but even shooters and most games consider them the same.
You see
Darktide has a very clear distinction between those two
Weakspot damage is a guaranteed damage bonus if you hit a weakspot of enemy (generally head)
Critical damage is a purely RNG damage bonus that procs independently of regular/weakspot dmg
Both are directly influenced by finesse stat of a weapon
Which makes knives do actual damage instead of being toothpicks
tame lodge
Lawbringer mentioned
What the hell is a bad shotgun
white minnow
Yes but even shooters and most games consider them the same.
ok, but we were talking about darktide
i don't know why you're dying on this hill
crits and weakspots are separate mechanics in darktide
plain and simple
tall torrent
There is a reason why weakspot and critical is included together they do increas...
They quite literally are not the same things in this game
radiant chasm
also, crit and weakspot bonuses to damage is calculate very poorly
trim steppe
Yes but even shooters and most games consider them the same.
That's not even true, plenty of shooters, both new and old, include rng-based crit hits AND ALSO create damage profiles for different body part hitboxes. This is not new or exclusive to Darktide by any means.
terse idol
Headshot is just a substitute word for critical hit as they basically do the sam...
Not reeallly
Cause it's weakpoint hit, which considering you can crit on headshot to substantially increase damage
terse idol
Yes but even shooters and most games consider them the same.
Uh not at all
radiant chasm
meaning that the perks are basically useless, or even on high finesse weapons, inferior to the 10% elites or 25% to a priority target. You need high values, like precog, deadly accurate, or things that bypass it like duelist zealot talent
terse idol
Crits have different modifiers which can also increase headshot damage
radiant chasm
cause people think ohh 10% more damage on headshot easy
well, you don't get 10%, the average weapon gets about 4% increased damage
since the bonus % values only apply to the bonus damage from said crit/weakspot, and not the total
quartz portal
Now that's quite the find
tall torrent
Now that's quite the find
Can harvest mercy killer 4
It has 2 bad perks and you still need uncanny strikes for it
pearl granite
are these blessings gud?
tall torrent
are these blessings gud?
Skullcrusher yes (most useful for DC7 though, DC4 doesn’t have the best use case with it)
Thunderstrike no
Cleave dmg is rather low, I’d prob harvest Skullcrusher
pearl granite
yeah I will do that, thanks 😄
crimson pebble
The blunt devils claw huh
trim steppe
I'm no vet revolver expert but you can give this one a go
Demo team and/or Iron Will can be swapped out for Grenade Tinker, Field Improve, or a keystone mod, depending on what you like
pearl granite
make gib flying with manstopper shotgun and weapon specialist sure is fun 😄
aim shotgun at head level, pull the trigger a few times, melee 10 of them, repeat
dusky flare
what was he cooking?
