veteran-class

[wanton dawn]

Thats the rule

[stiff glacier]

Rising storm 2

[wanton dawn]

I said good or smth 🤡

Jk

[shadow aurora]

I mean its not a bad one as long as it doesn't make the gun redundant

[stiff glacier]

If you say cod and good in same sentence its invalid already

[shadow aurora]

Real

[gusty bison]

"Plasma is fine. Bolter needs buffs" - Reddit

[wanton dawn]

I would not know my most played fps before dt was probably banjo-tooie

[stiff glacier]

If plasma didnt pierce through hordes so well id be fine with it as it is

[gusty bison]

Its too... handholdy

Like it does everything for u

Cant aim? Aim assist and high bodyshot damage

Cant position? All the cleave

Cant dodge? Immune to suppression and stagger.

[shadow aurora]

Plasma does feel like it should be unwieldly to use but stuff like overheat never comes into action really

[gusty bison]

Its the opposite of unwieldy atm

[shadow aurora]

Yes i know im saying it should be

[wanton dawn]

We all know what kind of nerf plasma should receive

[shadow aurora]

I want to feel like the gun is just as dangerous to me as the heretics

[sharp ember]

aye, equip speed

[wanton dawn]

Nerf primary, buff charged

[shadow aurora]

Huh?

[sharp ember]

6 second long canticle of safe weapon operation every time you equip it

[agile forge]

1/6 chance to explode with every trigger pull

[sharp ember]

and true let’s give charge shots a purpose beyond alpha striking targets

[shadow aurora]

Make explosion do ff

[stiff glacier]

We should just get the melta so we can spread plasmas strenghts elsewhere

High damage sniper with no horde potential to plasma and no range but high damage and horde cleave to melta

And bolter could be inbetween

As bolter is that already but plasma does not have the other side of the coin, being inherintly superior

[agile forge]

oh shit

brunt randomly had a shotgun with man-stopper available

none o'them bastards have my power cycler IV still but at least it's something

[austere pine]

depressing

[visual island]

Hey question here what melee weapons do yall like to run?

[austere pine]

what's a generally good melee for vet? doing focus target, invis, ciag

[stiff glacier]

Depending on build and preference

[visual island]

I've been struggling finding a weapon combo for my vet I was running heavy las pistol for awhile with just anything I could find melee wise

[stiff glacier]

Maybe powersword or chainsword

And if you got kraks you could go with some more horde clearing like catachan sword

[visual island]

I was using a chain axel last I remember I just want something that hits hard and can clear hoards if surounded

[stiff glacier]

Yeah chainaxe is single target weapon

[visual island]

I'm running the shrapnel grenade I think

[stiff glacier]

Id suggest mk 3 power sword

Pretty decent vs all

[visual island]

I'll have to look into it vet has been my biggest struggle character wise my other 3 char I use alot of melee with them

[austere pine]

i've figured out why my build felt miserable while another far more intensive build didn't

the build i'm currenly done using had karking deadshot

[visual island]

I don't know my vet skills very well

[austere pine]

this on CIAG which fires an insane amount of bulets very quickly

means you have 0 stamina always

this doesn't help nearly enough

coould be good for maybe a headhunter or any other IAG but not the columbus

[wanton dawn]

It works with ciag but you need at least 2 stam curio and accept that they will be time where you are out of stam

[austere pine]

being out of stam is generally fine for me but like. i would like to have stamina when i'm done firing a gun

or at least some stamina and not be at 0% for 80% of the match

[wanton dawn]

When deadshot is active your dps jump by 50% give or take. It is a trade-off

[austere pine]

maybe it was my melee weapon choice of a london shank that made it feel extra miserable

does this perk on melee weapons just give me flat out stamina no matter what i'm currently wielding?

[visual island]

I think with weapon effects are only active when wielding

[stiff glacier]

Only when on hand

[austere pine]

on ranged yes but for melees, too?

[shadow aurora]

It doesn't matter all to much as youll want to change that perk asap

[stiff glacier]

Melees the same

[austere pine]

i'm gonna cry

[stiff glacier]

Keep it in backburner until you find powercycler 4

[austere pine]

i have a good pc3 sword

just

me searching for pc4 is like when a 45 year old couple decides they want to start trying for a baby

but they've lived all their life near chernobyl

[stiff glacier]

It took me 250 hours to get power cycler 4

[shadow aurora]

I got it one of my first swords

[rancid ginkgo]

Spent 500k and like 30k plasteel for that shit

Didnt get it, next day its in melk s shop

[austere pine]

worthy sacrifice

[stiff glacier]

I just have 6000 melk credits sitting in case i see good blessing in there

[tiny summit]

RNG not blessing you like me with my first PS6 coming with sunder and pc4

[serene bough]

I don't remember when I picked up PC

[stiff glacier]

Albeit moment i got it i found like 3 other pc swords

[serene bough]

Mustve been around the 400hr mark but I never actively farmed for it

[serene bough]

i run knife, but thats bc i use weapons/grenades that dont deal well with armor, you should pick something that compliments your other weapon

[visual island]

I've been taking a liking to single fire las guns lately they have pierce don't they? Or have I been under a wrong assumption

[serene bough]

helbores will pierce armor, infantry las doesnt deal with flak well or carapace at all

[slow spade]

If you mean for multiple targets, they basically don't have pierce

[visual island]

In the test range the heavy Las goes through and hits at least one other target but in actual play doesn't seem to do that

[tiny summit]

If taking iLas/Helbores best to have a anti-armor/horde weapon. The shovels and power swords can make up for what the lasguns lack

[serene bough]

if you're shooting groaners, all weapons go through

[slow spade]

Different cleave values

Scab melee bois have like 4 mass

Which is pain

[tiny summit]

Or knife if you like getting close

[stiff glacier]

I havent had much issue towards flak with las

Albeit i always have +25 vs flak

[slow spade]

Its still objectively very low

[stiff glacier]

Yea not best

[serene bough]

gunners w/ flak arenta problem but maulers are where you really see the weakness

[slow spade]

MG La has like 60% damage vs flak

[stiff glacier]

But like i can 2-3 tap scab gunners no biggie

[tiny summit]

It is but realistically you should be hitting heads so it's flak weakness is not as much

[visual island]

I'll have to try the shovels

[serene bough]

the shovels are good, i forget which mark is the best but one of the pickaxe shovels are probably the best allrounder

the standard has a poke stagger but id argue armor piercing is better

[shadow aurora]

Even standard issue is pretty good

Unless they got nerfed i do believe they are a contender for best vet melees fighting against psword

[tiny summit]

Standard issue is nice but the folding shovels 2 tapping crushers with specials even going full left side build is nice

[serene bough]

im not a fan of the powersword, lacking mobility is such a detriment at times

[shadow aurora]

Dont need to dodge if everything is dead

[tiny summit]

My mobility is having everything dead

[umbral garnet]

Imagine not one shotting with a shovel.

FOR SHAME

FOR SHAME, SOLDIER

[visual island]

I was kinda iffy with the shovel I've been using the chain axe woth bleed on melee it shreads targets

[austere pine]

this good?

[tiny summit]

I play Exe...so no roided shovel

[serene bough]

yeah but there's always that one moment where you get snagged in a net or clipped by a melee that kills you knowing if you had greater dodge it would've been avoided

[umbral garnet]

Ah. My condolences.

[serene bough]

chaxe w/ bloodletter is good single target damage

[gaunt delta]

Looks good to me!
Caveats: check my username

[visual island]

That's my biggest issue I can't get toughness back I have skills to regain it maybe since I'm only level 20 I'm doing something wrong?

[shadow aurora]

Very much so a preference thing. I can ignore the downsides because psword is so much fun but i can understand having only two dodges is really annoying

[austere pine]

doing nothing wrong, just a lack of build opportunities

not having 30 talent points makes having an actual build very hard to achieve

[serene bough]

best way for vet to keep toughness is VoC which can be easily spammed

[visual island]

I've heard that but I'm really leaning towards the volley skill

[shadow aurora]

Could you show us your current setup ellie?

[serene bough]

confirmed kill is also a solid grab right at the top of the tree

executioner stance is arguably the worst of the 3 ults currently

[agile forge]

And it isn't even bad lol

[serene bough]

it doesn't give the innate survivability the other two have

[agile forge]

Glass cannon vet is fun as hell

It's just shit compared to old volley fire

[visual island]

I've been doing alot of support from a distance once I figure the playstyle for my vet maybe it'll make more sense?

[agile forge]

But if you wanna go all-in on max DPS CIAG it's really fun

[shadow aurora]

I whole heartedly believe ex stance would be perfect if they just allowed you to take out your melee

[visual island]

Maybe the weapons won't be have their proper specs since I'm not home but I could build it

[agile forge]

Tbh, it has basically zero downtime anyway on HI5STG

[serene bough]

grabbing confirmed kill and exhilarating takedown at the top of the tree are two ways to generate toughness well if you struggle with keeping toughness up if you want to be ranged focused with an infantry las

but generally that playstyle of vet is somewhat weaker compared to more meta builds

[shadow aurora]

Still having to weave between a single poxwalker while firing just to stop my ability from dropping is so tiresome

[serene bough]

i like using infantry las the most personally

[agile forge]

I just mow them down with my CIAG most of the time

[shadow aurora]

<-- brown las gun user

[agile forge]

CIAG with MF E-Stance and Surv Aura is almost infinite ammo

Yeah, I don't think I'd justify going MF and E-Stance without a CIAG

[gaunt delta]

I love how the Bolter feels. I just accept that I’m horribly ammo-inefficient with it

[agile forge]

Any other kinda build I think VoC/Focus Target is stronger

[gaunt delta]

Just repeat 3-4 shots on full-auto into charging Muties

[agile forge]

Or weapon spec for revolvers

[shadow aurora]

Only way to use it. Mag dump or bust

[serene bough]

which infantry las are you using

[gaunt delta]

I also like counting my single shots and reloading on the 1 for that bonus speed

[agile forge]

The MGXII? Have you tried the Ia now?

It's been buffed and is seen as the best infantry lasgun

Similar breakpoints at a much better RoF

[gaunt delta]

Or do they mean the brown Recon Lasgun?

[shadow aurora]

All these abbreviations are cooking my brain. Wdym

[agile forge]

I think the Kantrael Infantry Lasgun MGXII is the brown one iirc

The slowest, highest damage one

[shadow aurora]

Yes

[agile forge]

The kantrael Ia is the midrange one

[visual island]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b6fc1e1-db99-4068-8daa-128595692010/vet-15?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[agile forge]

Effectively it shoots faster without a downside though

[shadow aurora]

I use weapons mostly based off of feel not effectiveness

[visual island]

I can add the other specs later when I can get on

[agile forge]

It should feel about as powerful but shoot faster

[tiny summit]

I mostly play Exe. Vet has a number of toughness talents. This is what I use for iLas for when you get 30. Confirmed Kill and Exhilarating Takedown at the top keep your toughness flowing. Iron Will near the bottom in the middle will really help.

[umbral garnet]

There are three Infantry Lasguns. The 12, the 4 and the Ia. The Ia is the middle ground between the two with damage and fire rate. The 4 is the fire rate, and the 12 is the slow heavy hitter. Due to recent buffs, the Ia has become the best compared to the previous champion, the twelve, purely because of a higher rate of fire meaning better DPS.

[agile forge]

If you haven't tried one, try it and see if it feels right for you

[shadow aurora]

Yes i know i just didnt know what la meant i usually refer to the guns by color

[agile forge]

MGXII is still totally usable anyway

[umbral garnet]

Gotcha. Just making sure.

[serene bough]

oh i see, laspistol

[agile forge]

But if you like the slower punchy lasguns

Why not try a Hellbore?

[umbral garnet]

MK2 FOR THE WIN BABY

CHAAAAAAAARGE

[agile forge]

The MkI and MkII can even be used as melee weapons

Since they have incredibly powerful bayonets

[visual island]

Yeah I've enjoyed it but trying to find a better Las that's single fire

[shadow aurora]

I have tried the hellbores i just like how the brown las feels

[serene bough]

your build is definitely way too heavily loaded in the beginning nodes though

[agile forge]

Which mitigates the shitty draw speed

[serene bough]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9b6fc23f-f501-44d2-aa39-b5cb147bd860 I don't run ranged often but I'd recommend this

Mg1a is a solid single shot las

[tiny summit]

For leveling I definitely would drop the bleed melee and reload speed. Catch A Breath is also a good talent.

[visual island]

Ah there's a point missing? Is that for just preference?

[serene bough]

oops

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9b6fc23f-f501-44d2-aa39-b5cb147bd860

was supposed to go into superiority complex

Alternatively you could swap the middle keystone for marksman focus but I think exec stance will be enough damage to reach breakpoints with the mg1a

[visual island]

I may have to try it I am only lvl 10 and grasping for survival but I feel like I deal alot of damage so maybe it works out?

[serene bough]

it'll come naturally as you get better at the game

vet doesn't have the survivability of ogryn or zealot unless you take VoC

[sacred spindle]

dodge duck dip dive & darktide

[visual island]

Ah I'm coming off playing zealot as my main that may be the issue

[umbral garnet]

There's no charging into a horde with a Vet. Unless you run Psword and VoC

Lmao

[serene bough]

yeah more meta builds use iron will and tactical awareness w/ VoC for survivability

[visual island]

I learned that the hard way

[serene bough]

because it's so easy to spam and golden toughness is OP

arguably you don't even need iron will as much as tac awareness and VOC

[umbral garnet]

Or, if you're absolutely cracked at the game, beat down an entire horde coming your way with a fucking shovel.

Shovel Gaming™️

[visual island]

I always back away leveling as many as I can with my Las gun

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo not get veteran. Not fit playstyle. Still come back to it to try if other thing works

[serene bough]

just remember to hold your las the right way ulgo

[hoary horizon]

OOOHHHH

So Ulgo not use las gun because it hurt him! Now Ulgo understand

[agile forge]

Vet is quite fragile but robust

[visual island]

Happens to the best of us

[agile forge]

It's not made of glass like Psyker at least

But it's not like old ranged tank vet

[visual island]

Never had that issue with psyker which was my first main

[analog mural]

Ulgo should try kraks. They are like rock, but smaller. Just don't throw the whole box

[hoary horizon]

But what role of veteran? Is usefull yes but what role? Not horde. Not good as good as ogryn or sparkhead

[agile forge]

Psyker has best active defense imo

But if something sneaks through you're karked

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo had trouble adjusting to othet class. Reacted too slow because Ogrynpilked

[stiff glacier]

Random bullshit shards go

[hoary horizon]

Ogrynpilled*

[visual island]

Yeah venting shriek plus biologhtning ez

[agile forge]

Empathic Evasion

Crazy toughness regen

[visual island]

My psyker stands tall with orgyn

[agile forge]

Melee options that generally one-shot things

Kinetic Deflection

Deflector

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo like sparkheads! They are like Ogryn babies but not as strong

Ulgo protec lil uns

[agile forge]

It Depends

But usually counter-ranged and anti-elite/special

But every class is broad as fuck now

[visual island]

I run a support vet for the most part

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo hate gunner. Had veteran in team Ulgo never shot

[visual island]

Or that's what my goal was

[serene bough]

best thing vet has over other classes are spammable grenades that regen and golden toughness

[hoary horizon]

Nor matter if work. If lil uns try is good enought for Ulgo

[brisk sapphire]

Psword/plasma vet doesn’t struggle with anything

[serene bough]

otherwise vet builds are just preference between range focus or melee/range hybrid

and yeah, plasma gun OP

[visual island]

Plasma gun never sat right with ne

[agile forge]

Tbh I like builds with weaknesses lol

[gusty bison]

Welllll

[visual island]

Makes for more exciting gameplay

[gusty bison]

Shovel and combat axe (and knife) beg to differ

[agile forge]

E-S deadshot MF CIAG gave Vet a new lease of life for me

[gusty bison]

Vet melee is batshit insane btw

[agile forge]

Because no VoC crutch

[visual island]

I once saw a melee vet take on an entire hord in a twins mission it was insane

[tiny summit]

Maybe if you're not the Emperor's finest

[gusty bison]

My latest meme build ive been enjoying is infiltrate raking fire shredder

[gusty bison]

Mhm. You get insane toughness regen and reliable damage

[umbral garnet]

I should've added at low level.

[tiny summit]

Shredder mag dumping making you walk slower than autogun mag dumping is funny

[gusty bison]

You get out for blood at level 2 though

[visual island]

They did this weird dodge heavy slash that I can't figure put

[umbral garnet]

Can't account for skill.

I was lying, really, Vet has great horde clear when done right

[gusty bison]

Gotta love all the melee buffs

[agile forge]

A lovely combo I just got to do

Smite psyker + Shredder grenades

[umbral garnet]

I love my fragging shovel.

Best part is the sound.

THONK

[gusty bison]

Bonk

[slow spade]

Don't worry, you'll always have the weakness of the user 😎

[serene bough]

builds that are meta do tend to bore me for that reason though, difficult to feel any sense of variety when you have a "one solution fits all" strategy

but yes, user weakness will always exist lol

[agile forge]

"Meta" is a weird term here anyway

[serene bough]

i wouldn't say so, every game has a meta

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo make own build

[agile forge]

Imo it's not talking about "the best"

But rather "does it make sense and does it pass the bar"

Like, the meta is to not use Recons

But that doesn't mean only use Plasma

People have backronymed it to "most effective tactics available"

But metagaming really just means theory work

It's a lot broader

[serene bough]

depends on how philosophical you want to get, but more succintly its just about which strategies and weapons are clear outliers such as CIAG and plasma

[agile forge]

You can look at it through a lens of, say

[serene bough]

you could break it down further but that's more energy than im willing to discuss now lol

[agile forge]

"Rumbler fun. How make it work good?"

Difference between "metagaming" and "The Meta" I guess

[lost portal]

Ready to learn trigonometry and physics?

[agile forge]

Ogryn master of trigger gnomes

[gusty bison]

Meta is run a plasma, get downed by two poxwalkers, blame the team, ragequit

[unkempt quartz]

I hate it when someone rage quits. If you are going to join a team, even if you know you are all going to die and fail, stay til the damn end. I have yelled at my screen so many times at people that leave when they die or when failure is imminent

[gusty bison]

triggers dh

ragequits

[umbral garnet]

I've seen someone quit the MILLISECOND a fucking hound pounced them.

It was hilarious.

[unkempt quartz]

I just don't get why people rage quit. Why are you playing if you are gonna pull the coward route the second stuff gets hard >.>

[analog mural]

I had 2 people die and leave immediately on a maelstrom the other day. 2 more joined and we won

[slow spade]

Tbh I had one guy that went down like 5 times in a mission

When he rage quit and got replaced by an Ogryn

[agile forge]

I confess to occasionally shamequitting

[slow spade]

I wasn't as mad 😎

[agile forge]

Which looks like a ragequit

[tiny summit]

Before his knees hit the floor

[agile forge]

But it comes from a place of bad mental health and inwardly directed anger

[slow spade]

Me when I get trapped

[unkempt quartz]

I am too stubborn to quit, even if I am not doing well, I just type srry in chat, and keep trucking

[agile forge]

Also sometimes I realise my experimental build doesn't work or I'm not in the right state to play it

So I drop out and tweak it to retry

It's not ideal

But it's not a ragequit really

[slow spade]

Yeah I usually just apologize when its something avoidable like a trapper and I'm all alone

[agile forge]

It's a reaction to being trapped in games after misplaying in LoL tbh

And spending half an hour getting verbally abused

[slow spade]

I mostly just go "bruh" when people randomly drop

[agile forge]

Online gaming is dangerous if you're depressed, socially anxious and autistic lol

Quitting League was the best fucking thing I ever did

[slow spade]

That's why REAL gamers play jrpg where you get anime women to bully you instead 💪💪💪

[unkempt quartz]

Honestly that is understandable. Some communities are wayyyyyy too toxic and stuff.

[agile forge]

Just wanted to give an insight from the other side of the apparent ragequit

but I know a lot of the time it's a genuine ragequit

[slow spade]

I just find it funny when people queue for damnation -> go down like 6 times before the first door -> leave

It feels like they expected the team to cover them at all times

[agile forge]

That can be a shame spiral and tilt

[slow spade]

Fucking recon user that loot gremlin'd every chest

[agile forge]

OK if they have a recon then fuck em they don't get any benefit of the doubt lol

[slow spade]

Honestly for me it was that they mashed on every chest

[agile forge]

I guess the presence of other toxic behaviour before they quit is the real indicator

[tiny summit]

Just trying out the P17 experience with Exe MF Recon w/ smokes

[slow spade]

I didn't have any stims for a reason :c

[agile forge]

Yeah, real "main character" energy

[brisk sapphire]

They’re playing solo mentally

[slow spade]

Thankfully its pretty rare

[idle swallow]

Seeing someone open a big chest to instantly suck up everything inside in a nanosecond where I know they're just mashing the pick up button without thinking, that's how you get left to die

[visual island]

I always pick up teammates no matter what even at the end of missions when we can evac

[unkempt quartz]

When I open chests I am looking for medpack, medstim, or the plasteel and diamente xD. Most times I don't need a ton of ammo so I ping it and leave. I love having healing stuff in case someone needs it. Or if I do, but I scan everyone's health and stuff before using it on me

[gaunt delta]

I wish this game showed your reserve ammo cap in the default UI

or at least colored your reserve ammo the same as the color of your teammates ammo icon

[agile forge]

If it gets egregious enough, I'm more than happy to vote kick tbh

Had a game with my girlfriend where a zealot managed to get all the way to the mid event on Excise Vault while we were in like the second room on heresy

and they'd eaten all the medicae

emptied all the ammo out of the chests

apparently that map has no checkpoints until after the middle

anyway, they got karked out :)

[visual island]

I've gotten into the habit of checking the Hud for teammates and if their yellow or red I ping ammo before I take my fill

[gaunt delta]

☑️🦶

[unkempt quartz]

I grab the ammo if I am running low af, or if I check and noone grabs it, but I can use it

[agile forge]

The role of a knife stealth zealot should be to eliminate elite and special threats to the team

not to abandon the team

and play Solotide

[unkempt quartz]

I have seen a couple very good stealth built zealots that did that, and dude it sends the chills when you watch em

[visual island]

I played a few rounds of stealth zealot not my cup of tea but I focused on the specials since I can backstabbing them

[agile forge]

I love it but I'm bad at it

getting the knife to hit weakspots is tough

and if you don't hit weakspots you're shit

also not sure how to build it

Think blazing piety might be better since it gets you back into stealth faster

[visual island]

Yeah I'm not good with weakshots

[white minnow]

i'd run blazing piety yeah since crits do have a considerable benefit for knife, and upkeeping scourge more consistently

[agile forge]

I figured that Momentum would be a better choice since you can stack to 20 between assaults

but it doesn't have as much CDR for my liking

I really just didn't want to run yet another karking Blazing Piety build lol

[visual island]

Having the dodge that gives 3 stacks helps alot in hoards

[agile forge]

Feels like there's not much point fighting a horde with my knife though

it's slow for that

I run a kantrael shotgun for anti-horde

but yeah, in my Piety build I find that I can at least use the knife to farm some crits to stealth again

and hunt the next elites/specials

[white minnow]

crits are also nice for cranking up the damage when you don't hit weakspots

[agile forge]

True, the crit multiplier's really nice

maybe this is why it didn't work out for me at all when I dropped blazing piety, maybe it really is the best way to go

[white minnow]

e.g., knife goes from ~150 damage to ~450 damage on most things from body to crit

though the weakspot to crit weakspot multiplier is only like ~1.5x more damage for a couple of armour types

mk3 heavies

[agile forge]

"disgustingly resilient"

amazing

It's like a look into the minds of the admech

[toxic leaf]

its so frustrating to miss that your team has moved down from a platform and then you get got by the lone hound or trapper coming in from behind

nobody to blame but yourself and them's the breaks

sometimes the ogryn is just tall enough to revive if the platform is just low enough, ive had that done on chasm terminus right after the underground section, jumping down to the train tracks

[visual island]

I've saved a few players with a well timed grenade or a well placed grenade launcher as orgyn

Speaking of vet should get a grenade launcher seems doable

Unless they don't exist in human size in 40K

[toxic leaf]

vet uses teh ogryn rumbler 2 handed huhu

[visual island]

Oh god have you seen those videos of short people shooting guns with insane kick

I'm imaging a vet with that

[tiny summit]

Let the kickback physically kickback the vet when they fire

[visual island]

Does toughness damage to the vet

[serene bough]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-recoil-ouch-gif-10741754

[visual island]

Yes XD

[pliant sentinel]

is the MG la ILG any good?

[serene bough]

yes its a solid weapon

[pliant sentinel]

what's the best setup for it?

[agile forge]

Best infantry lasgun

[gusty bison]

Its ok

[serene bough]

i don't use it often but i'd run with exe stance to reach breakpoints more easily or rely on deadshot / duck n dive for maximum crit potential

[gusty bison]

Best inf las ye

[serene bough]

i prefer the MG4 over the MG1a personally

[pliant sentinel]

I'm currently running a shout build

what's the best setup for volley fire?

[wanton dawn]

Ciag, bolter, agri brauto works very well with exe

[sacred spindle]

:3

[serene bough]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b6fc23f-f501-44d2-aa39-b5cb147bd860/mg1a-build I'd run this for MG1a w/ exec, you may want to move points out of keystone for deadshot + duck n dive but Im not a fan personally

[sacred spindle]

poxwalkers -> unyielding, then blessings are fine I think?

[serene bough]

definitely remove rev it up

[trim hemlock]

Rev it up is somewhat garbage. Pick Headtaker or Slaughterer instead

[sacred spindle]

I've got slaughterer III lying around on another chaxe so that makes sense

[pliant sentinel]

saved that link for later, appreciate you friend

good thing I have a shit ton of spare blessed bullets lmfao

I always check the armory vendor for them

[tiny summit]

Do you consider Demo Team over the 2 points for Stockpile? I personally like demo team more for my Exe builds

[terse idol]

rashad

[tiny summit]

Also ghost is a pretty nice blessing on iLas

[serene bough]

i like the consistency of stockpile more than demo team, but demo team is also a valid option

[pliant sentinel]

I have no blessings, I need to farm for them

at least for the ILG

[serene bough]

just placeholder

[sacred spindle]

or run both and spam grenades

[terse idol]

The issue I'm gonna point out is, what's your Crusher Breakpoint?
You're not expecting people to hit the crusher 3 Hit BP with that talent setup

Oh okay

[serene bough]

i use ghost for Mg4 and DA for Mg1A

[terse idol]

Kinda wished these builds had like a creator note on the bottom

[tiny summit]

First Vet weapon in Brunt shop...most painful to god roll

[tiny summit]

You can add them

[serene bough]

Yeah I was just lazy

[terse idol]

Oh nic3

[serene bough]

blame me

[tiny summit]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b07e5b8-8061-40a9-81e8-4637fdcb18e0/exe-mf-helbore

My disorganized schlock

[serene bough]

you can definitely remove some points here and there to optimize the build, maybe even one point out of the keystone to grab demo team

[slow spade]

"Note: this is literally the best, no further builds needed"

[pliant sentinel]

@tiny summit this is my current build

[terse idol]

Just go exe and MF for an experience for the ilas

[slow spade]

Smh taking Survivalist, sandbagging your team 😔

[serene bough]

idk how much MF helps the mg1a las but it's definitely useful on MG4

[terse idol]

It helps with counter fire against shooters

[pliant sentinel]

Fus Roh Dah build goes brrrr

[slow spade]

Melee is king as khorne the Emperor intended 💪💪💪

[pliant sentinel]

lol

[terse idol]

When you take the talent to regain toughness on weakpoint kill on max stacks of mf

[tiny summit]

Embrace inner youtuber: "you're r***** if you disagree"

[serene bough]

i dont run mg1a as often as I do mg4

i prefer accuracy by volume

https://tenor.com/view/dakka-tabletop-dungeoneers-discord-orcs-irks-gif-22814163

[pliant sentinel]

I am currently running the mk1 IAG

[tiny summit]

Currently been experimenting with this for laspistols

[serene bough]

smonks and movement aura

my only isssue with this build is you're not maximizing the vape god set up

[wanton dawn]

It is quite the commitment

[terse idol]

Right to left tree always hurts

[tiny summit]

And thisone

[pliant sentinel]

I dubbed my current build "Unrelenting Force"

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo like veteran. Tough little man with tiny gun. Make heretic very scared! Ulgo like you!

[pliant sentinel]

cuz skyrim

[tiny summit]

But I've done that one

[serene bough]

oh yeah, that's right you're the one who patented the build

[pliant sentinel]

no

[tiny summit]

Lmao

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo think veteran not strong in high difficulty is lore accurate

[pliant sentinel]

I just like to call it that

cuz it's funny

[hoary horizon]

But ulgo lotsa times wrong

[pliant sentinel]

because that's literally what it is

[serene bough]

it's optimal to hit crushers with smoke clouds and wait X number of years to develop lung cancer and pass away

[wanton dawn]

Guess the weapon

[serene bough]

shotgun

kantrael

[tiny summit]

Updated vape build for infil

[wanton dawn]

Nope

[faint beacon]

I feel like it's a sin to say I've unironically started using smokes just cause the utility has saved a lot of runs with its recent change just because i saw this joke build

[serene bough]

bolter?

aww yis

[gray finch]

Ciag v

[tiny summit]

I will actually say it's good to just throw on top of the team when a hound wave comes. They run around confused and never pounce

[wanton dawn]

Good try but my ciag deadshot has less reload and more dnd

[serene bough]

https://tenor.com/view/nat20-d20-20sided-die-20-dnd-gif-15085902

[tiny summit]

I aim to be the worst of influences. May smokes bless everyone's games

[serene bough]

wish i played dnd

[wanton dawn]

Am gonna do another

[faint beacon]

Dude I'm just saying the amount of times the director said, yeah summon the 40+ Gunners and then I throw 2 smokes down and they start running back and forth like a bunch of idiots

[gray finch]

https://youtu.be/xbiIYVtuUkw?si=lxQAlYDPSkHnj5x1

[wanton dawn]

Another "guess the weapon"

[serene bough]

yeah that opening to the video is the MG1a dream

[tiny summit]

Reapers not having object permanence. They just stare at the smoke cloud

[agile forge]

A really loud one

[wanton dawn]

Yeah

[tiny summit]

Yes team I went Exe MF w/o Surv

[gray finch]

Just wait for the first event

[faint beacon]

The Mutant just giving up and then yelling In the direction of the Zealot and rushing at them instead

[tiny summit]

The sandbag

[wanton dawn]

I cant do my bayonet ppl would recognize immediately

[tiny summit]

I'm finding I need to use the reload on elite/special kill with autoguns to reliably keep exe up

[visual island]

Bonk zealot is so fun

[wanton dawn]

Reload on elite/special is an easy grab on autogun cuz of longshot

[tiny summit]

Otherwise when I have to reload, I only have so lil time to get a kill

[wanton dawn]

A bit harder on ciag for talent eco

[serene bough]

skipped ahead bc i should working, is exactly what the god emperor intended

[faint beacon]

Honestly you'd think any of the headhunters would pair well with smokes?

[serene bough]

thats why i prefer MG1a w/ exe

[gusty bison]

"What 1000 hours of knife gameplay looks like." FTFY

[wanton dawn]

Problem with smoke rn is point investment

[tiny summit]

Don't see why not.

[gusty bison]

Knife carried that run ngl, but ye its very well done.

[faint beacon]

Honestly you absolutely have a point there but I'm willing to make the attempt

[serene bough]

the right side of the tree in general suffers from point investment

[faint beacon]

Especially with the MK III or XI

[serene bough]

until you get to the bottom of the tree

[tiny summit]

WS is the best keystone with a single point

Get kills, get bonuses on swap. Simple as

[gusty bison]

Mhm

[faint beacon]

Casually making the chain axe rev heavy 1 shot crushers on heavy

[wanton dawn]

Ws node are kinda weak though

[tiny summit]

I honestly do not care for FT unless I'm spending 2 other points for Toughness, stam and dmg on kill

[wanton dawn]

Ft with thoughness with deadshot

[tiny summit]

I don't like the nodes for WS that much. If I could pick up the toughness replenish on swap on its own, it would be like the only node I'd grab

I just don't use deadshot

Stupid gun making me tired

[serene bough]

i havent tried using WS enough

[gusty bison]

Free reload is good for some weapons

Useless for others

Volver goes HARD with free reload for instance

[tiny summit]

Oh yea

[faint beacon]

I've kinda noticed that with the WS nodes they aren't like super impactful

[wanton dawn]

I use deadshot ft with bolter and ciag, ws with plasma and brauto

[tiny summit]

They aren't useless you're like really into push attacking and sprinting at all times

[gusty bison]

Well the free reload is extremely impactful on a few guns

[wanton dawn]

60% crit ciag goes brrr

[gusty bison]

And the 20% tou on swap is real good

But other nodes are a LOT more niche

The reload speed one has use with shotguns

[wanton dawn]

Problem with reload speed is that the weapon that'd benefit the most have meh swap speed or huge/tiniest mag

[faint beacon]

Skirmisher builds I'd assume would bank on that the most

[gusty bison]

Mhm.

The ONLY gun that benefits from it is shotty

Cos u cant free reload special shells

[wanton dawn]

I only play shooty with spam special

Guess it makes sense yeah

Weird ass build though

[gusty bison]

Its weird ye

[wanton dawn]

Also 2 points for it is huge cost

Compare to tact reload

[tiny summit]

Optimal WS gaming

[frank basin]

Kantrael special spam

[wanton dawn]

Or just play plasma, spray one for free melee stack

[faint beacon]

Shovel into auto gun into shovel into auto gun into shovel-

[wanton dawn]

Also plasma ws is great with agile

[frank basin]

10 melee kill to get benefit. One ranged kill to get melee benefit

[wanton dawn]

Most weapon dont care about ranged benefit of ws

[faint beacon]

Usually helps with Auto guns by ramping up their fire rate but other than that I don't really notice it

The Melee one on the other hand

[tiny summit]

Gotta max out the graia brauto braced brrrr

[frank basin]

Celerity

Super mag dumper

[faint beacon]

The Lawn Mower except the grass is Groaners and Poxwalkers

[tiny summit]

I have a new goal

Must take all the celerity and mag dump graia

[frank basin]

Kinda gimmick to mag dump high maximum all source fire rate boost

[tiny summit]

Oh you now...let's see recon ammo dumping

[faint beacon]

Somehow cram smokes in there for no damn reason

[tiny summit]

Exe MF Recon w/ smokes

[frank basin]

That’s good

[tiny summit]

I like the WS fire rate bonus for the mk10 laspistol

[frank basin]

Pistol and melee like commissar

To bad we can’t dual wield it

[slow spade]

Clearly we just need to duct tape the pistol to the chainsword

[stiff glacier]

Bolt pistols

[slow spade]

The special attack is now firing the pistol

[pliant sentinel]

What is a vape build?

[pliant sentinel]

Is that meme slang for shout?

[gloomy dove]

That smoke is crazy!

Wtf

[pliant sentinel]

ohhhh

stealth build

and smoke nades

kek

[gloomy dove]

2 dudes throw 6 smokes without a hesitation

[faint beacon]

Min-maxxing only into smokes basically

[gloomy dove]

It is just a a hoard!!

[faint beacon]

Grenade tinkerer I think it is? Perk that buffs your grenades with smokes goes fucking nuts when trying to deal with gunner crowds

[quick oak]

need a refresher because i havent used the plasma in a while
best to use uncharged shots, minimum charged shots, or maximum charged shots for DPS on big boys? breakpoints aside which is the most efficient for damage dealing

[hollow ibex]

Spam uncharged

Is the way to go

[quick oak]

for ammo efficiency reasons, DPS reasons, or both?

[hollow ibex]

Very sophisticated and complex play style

[hollow ibex]

Both

[pliant sentinel]

Rev it up is fun af

[quick oak]

ty

[pliant sentinel]

change my mind

[hollow ibex]

I won’t

Rev + bloodletter

[pliant sentinel]

Based

[faint beacon]

I'd say it's useful for Veteran when you need something to give you a bit more movement

[pliant sentinel]

Still doesn't top this

when it comes to TTK

power sword will always be my #1

I'd definitely rate the MKIV CS #2

[hollow ibex]

Yeah I mean ps is one of the meta slave defaults

[pliant sentinel]

rightly so

[faint beacon]

I see Mauler, I fold my shovel and slam it into the Maulers head

[hollow ibex]

I usually run knife for the memes

[pliant sentinel]

adamantium lightsaber goes hard

[faint beacon]

I live a very simple life

[tall torrent]

rashad:

[hollow ibex]

Rashad doesn’t have rev

[faint beacon]

Never really bothered using the Rashad

[hollow ibex]

Therefore it is shit

[faint beacon]

So I literally have no clue if it's like a horde weapon or Elite takedown weapon

[pliant sentinel]

What, the power sword?

[tall torrent]

it's both

[pliant sentinel]

yep

[faint beacon]

Oh? Should probably give it a spin when I'm home

[hollow ibex]

Yeah like most meta options it does everything well

[pliant sentinel]

@faint beacon

[tall torrent]

the only real downside to rashad is that you need to min-max it really hard

[pliant sentinel]

go for that setup

[faint beacon]

Oh yeah I literally have that

I was referring to the Rashad

I tend to use the Mk VII shovel a lot recently

[pliant sentinel]

I only use powerswords and chainswords

at least for veteran

i like the thunder hammer+bolter combo for zealot

[faint beacon]

Have you considered Chain Axes

[pliant sentinel]

meh

[faint beacon]

Assault variant to be specific

[pliant sentinel]

too slow for my taste

I'm also stubborn

I'll probably end up trying them at some point

[faint beacon]

I still find it hilarious I have a build that just 1 shots crushers with one Revved Heavy with the Assault Chain Axe

[hollow ibex]

New chain axe is quite fun

I don’t like the old one though

[pliant sentinel]

These are my two strongest weapons right now

I changed the perks on the IAG recently for carapace enemies and flak enemies

[faint beacon]

I believe the normal variant is really meant for Elite focused takedowns cause it has more revved based attacks vs the Assault

Probably why they buffed the fuck out of it a bit ago

[tall torrent]

both are called assault chainaxe

mk4 and mk12

[faint beacon]

What's the newest one

[tall torrent]

mk12

[faint beacon]

Mk12 it is then

[pliant sentinel]

I will never truly be satisfied until the hellgun & hotshot lasgun are in the game

hellguns already are in the game

scab gunners have them

[tall torrent]

isn't hellgun just a different name of hotshot lasgun

[pliant sentinel]

hotshot las is the improved hellgun variant

[faint beacon]

They'd probably make it a variant

Unsure, FS is unpredictable sometimes

[echo parcel]

are scab gunners using a hellgun or is that something else?

[pliant sentinel]

yes

dreg gunners use the LMGs

scabs use the hellguns

[faint beacon]

Look I'd enjoy using an MG of some sort on Veteran, that being either what the Dregs use or the Hellgun

But idk if they'd do it seeing Ogryn has the Stubber

[tall torrent]

make hellgun have overheat instead of reload

[pliant sentinel]

like the plasma gun

[faint beacon]

Honestly, yeah I'd enjoy that

Seeing the Scabs usually have an overheat anim when they jam

[tall torrent]

except it doesn't blow up and overheating just renders it unusable for a prolonged period

[pliant sentinel]

Kasrkin armor & hellguns

that's all I want

[tall torrent]

I want long-las

[pliant sentinel]

the game just needs more lasguns in general

[faint beacon]

Long-las was datamined

I recall that

[pliant sentinel]

there are a SHIT TON of lasgun variants in 40k

darktide only features the most well known variants

[faint beacon]

I saw there was a Stubber for Vet as well

[pliant sentinel]

how would that work?

[faint beacon]

Stub Rifle I believe

[pliant sentinel]

ahhh

[faint beacon]

It's not going to be an MG

[tall torrent]

kind of but it didn't have scope or battery pack inserted in that icon

[pliant sentinel]

what the dreg gunners use

[faint beacon]

I pray cause I'll fucking make a build and unironically use it

I enjoy spraying lead down range

[pliant sentinel]

I'd like more cadian guard cosmetics as well

and moebian guard

still waiting on the moebian helm/mask

[faint beacon]

Waiting for Steel Legion to pop up again in the shop rotation

Cause I got the Shock Trooper variant

Just need the actual uniform

[tall torrent]

the night eagle skin?

[faint beacon]

It's the Tox-Pattern I believe it's called in game

The Autumn looking one

Usually run that with the Polished Parade Helm variant

I occasionally use the Cadian Uniform

[pliant sentinel]

I'm pretty sure these are mods

That's the shit we need

[faint beacon]

Real shit, which veteran personality do you guys use

[pliant sentinel]

Cutthroat

[tall torrent]

can u show a pic

[faint beacon]

Firm Loose Cannon user

I gotta dig it up one moment

Correct me if I'm wrong about it though

It is a variant of the SL uniform

[echo parcel]

Cutthroat shout voice lines are S tier

[tall torrent]

I have a cadian origin professional

[faint beacon]

That's my go to outfit

[tall torrent]

oh that one, ok

I thought u meant infantry lasgun skin

[faint beacon]

Oh I straight up don't even care about the weapon skins

However hoping the original Steel Legion uniform will pop up in shop again sometime in the future

[stiff glacier]

I want catachan set

[faint beacon]

Respect it, haven't seen many people use it

@tall torrent oh, which Rashad do you recommend I pick up and try when I get the spare time btw? Forgot to ask

[tall torrent]

wdym which rashad

[echo parcel]

theres only one

[tall torrent]

there's only 1 combat axe called rashad

[faint beacon]

Oh, I'm getting the Antraxs confused with it then

[tall torrent]

Antax has better special and push atk, but worse atk speed and dmg

also harder to meet breakpoints

[frank basin]

And alchy

Rashad antax achly

[faint beacon]

I know I had a Melee Focused Antax with Deci and that genuinely was the most braindead horde clearer I've used

[frank basin]

Pair with brutal momentum

[faint beacon]

Click M1 gameplay

[tall torrent]

decimator is not that great rn

[faint beacon]

In general or just with the Axes

[tall torrent]

in general

[echo parcel]

For axes probably not that useful, really nice for shovels imo

[faint beacon]

Probably because of the vanguard sweeps on shovels

Easier to maintain Deci

[tall torrent]

it stacks slow and drops all stacks on miss

[echo parcel]

but you kind of cant go wrong slapping deci on anything, damage is damage

[tall torrent]

for shovels, skullcrusher is kind of better

2 stacks of +30~40% dmg dealt by whole team when they're in staggered state

decimator full stack is just +40%

[faint beacon]

Skull + Deci is when I'm making it solely for killing hordes, but Uncanny is far more useful at times

[echo parcel]

uncanny is overkill for the stapler shovels

[tall torrent]

uncanny is fine for mk7

mk3 benefits more from thrust + skullcrusher

[faint beacon]

Why I have an Uncanny MK7

Making damn sure Maulers and Crushers are dead

[frank basin]

Which shovel does heavy overhead strike on folded?

[tall torrent]

which shovel

[faint beacon]

Believe it's both

I know Mk7 is on Heavy an overhead

[frank basin]

Does it had vanguard heavy attack?

[faint beacon]

Mk3 is vanguard into overhead unfolded

[tall torrent]

Both mk3 and mk7 shovels when folded have strikedown heavies

[faint beacon]

Mk7 is the SMS pattern

[frank basin]

I don’t want try light overhead strike if I use thrust

[tall torrent]

Then use mk3

[heavy rover]

Am I a heretic if I prefer the mk7 sapper shovel over the power sword?

[tall torrent]

No

[echo parcel]

Power sword is not the best veteran melee if thats what you are asking

[heavy rover]

I'm new to Darktide and saw so much talk about the power sword

[frank basin]

In where?

[faint beacon]

It's an extremely flexible melee

[heavy rover]

I can't remember where but I've seen quite a number of builds using power sword

[echo parcel]

Someone mentioned that power sword is one of the only weapons that become more redundant the better you get at the game, and I have to agree

[faint beacon]

It's cause it's very simple to use

[heavy rover]

Personally I've been having more fun chaining decimator and uncanny strike with the mk7 shovel

[frank basin]

Cool

[pliant sentinel]

the power cycler blessing alone gives it a significantly large advantage

the patch update last week buffed it

[heavy rover]

There's a new buff for power sword?

[pliant sentinel]

the patch before the most recent one

lemme see if I can find the article

uno momento

[frank basin]

They are new animation on activation

If that patch you talking

[pliant sentinel]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-17-notes-live-now/91924

last week

so i was correct

self esteem 100

[frank basin]

Ya just animation changes not stats buff

Lot of fixes

[heavy rover]

Interesting

[frank basin]

Man game developing live service is hard working

Fixes and patches

[hollow ibex]

After taking like two months off

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-tired-panting-gif-15270472

[pliant sentinel]

we need another 40k MMORPG

[frank basin]

Nah that’s very big

[pliant sentinel]

I would sacrifice myself for the Emperor for one

[pliant sentinel]

there used to be one

[frank basin]

We have other bunch mmorpg

[pliant sentinel]

it got shut down though

[frank basin]

Everyone playing regularly

[pliant sentinel]

are they 40k?

[frank basin]

No, just generic mmorpgs

[pliant sentinel]

yeah I'm talking about a 40k mmorpg

[frank basin]

The genre feel not trendy

[pliant sentinel]

I'm an RPG enjoyer

[frank basin]

Not everyone play mmorpg

[pliant sentinel]

Fallout, TES

[frank basin]

Yeh…

[pliant sentinel]

Cyberpunk

all of it

I love being able to do whatever I want and choose what happens

freedom

would be neat to get the ability to roam around the galaxy as a space marine or something

[pearl granite]

the emperor just gave me this 😂

scope is longer than barrel

[pliant sentinel]

trash it

wait wtf

how does it have a scope?

[pearl granite]

and there is a knife...

[frank basin]

Mod

[pliant sentinel]

I'm confused

oh

[pearl granite]

i installed a weapon custom mod

it randomized the gun

[pliant sentinel]

how do you mod darktide?

[frank basin]

Oh lol

[pliant sentinel]

manually?

[frank basin]

Find on nexus

Yeah

[pliant sentinel]

oh it is on nexus

cool

[frank basin]

You need download framework

And base mod

Then you Can download whatever mod you want

[pliant sentinel]

can i use vortex?

[frank basin]

Idk

If you internet mods stuff you can go mod server for it

[echo parcel]

Yes, but you need the darktide extension to make it work

[pliant sentinel]

awesome

i hate manual modding

so that helps

[frank basin]

There is nexus launcher something I remember

[pliant sentinel]

I have it

I use it for fallout 3, NV, and 4

as well as skyrim

[frank basin]

Great

[pliant sentinel]

gonna check that out when i get home

[faint beacon]

I can't help but agree with the statement just because I've been avoiding using the PSs after getting the movement down and trying out other Melee options

[frank basin]

My powersword stuck with power cycler and locked sunder

[pliant sentinel]

best blessings

imo

especially for an all rounder

[faint beacon]

When I used Chainswords I tended to stick with Rampage + Bloodletter

Now I'm using the shovels way too much

[hoary horizon]

Ogryn approved!

[faint beacon]

See, big man gets it

[hoary horizon]

[pliant sentinel]

I play through the xbox client

hopefully it won't be an issue

vortex has only conflicted with two games for me

Cyberpunk and Wasteland 3

fingers crossed that it works

[rare prawn]

my first encounter with 380

[frank basin]

Let’s pray yourself not get brick it

[tiny summit]

Yes. I use nexus

[heavy rover]

Make sure to give Hadron some chocolate for good blessings (or idk maybe a toaster, she might like the toaster more given she's Mechanicus)

How do you bribe a Mechanicus for good blessings? Some WD40 in a martini glass?

[visual island]

Motor oil maybe?

Or a sdu

[frank basin]

Bribe then with fried chicken

[brisk sapphire]

Hadron has been kind to me today. Gave my 379 cleaver IV thrust and slaughterer IV

To replace my old one

Fried chicken is indeed the trick

[pliant sentinel]

[idle swallow]

For being a lil jokester with the lawbringer alt fire and scattershot should I do flechette or manstopper as the other blessing

[pliant sentinel]

flechettes

mini rods from god

[faint beacon]

Watching heretics bleed to death is pretty fun

[pliant sentinel]

Based

[frank basin]

On bleed knife?

[pliant sentinel]

40k fans when the topic is Zeal

[faint beacon]

Kantrael Shotgun with Flechettes

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Ah

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and man-stopper

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Ill use knives from time to time but I usually don't use em

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I got a Tabletop accurate lasgun as a mission reward...

26% damage

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Just as The God-Emperor intended

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Same thing happened to me lol. Everything was 80 except damage

And it was a 378 roll too

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this was a mission reward for a quickplay mission where me and an ogryn had to babysit a pair of knife-zealots who didn't know what they were doing.

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Must be a sign. That lasgun is like training wheels for the zealots

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Because it's versatile and also one of the best melee weapons in the game if you want to start that argument.

But I love me shovels.

Luv me shuvol
Luv me Emprah
Luv me rations

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Amount of times this has happened is depressing

Like don't get me wrong they'll kill about 6 gunners then I hear the downed sfx

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Knife zealots are either god-like or god-awful. There is no in between...

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They either are your best friend or you wonder why you have 50+ special kills in a none HI mission

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Felt like an actual meth head the one time I tried knife veteran

Really fun but I don't see myself doing it frequently

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It's like the Zealots Yelling Your Lungs Out While Stabbing People™️ but less about religion and more about violence. :)

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Religion of Violence

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One of the knife-zealots in question really wished they could have my psyker's stat-stick

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Times I wish you can transfer weapons shared among classes to each other

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Knife veteran is just rush In, kill annoying specials return to team

Zealots usually never return, I make sure to stick near the team

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If go off alone. I 100% assume you can han----And that basterd got dogged again....Ugggg

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Imagine needing a knife when you can just SHOVEL

Sorry, I need to calm down.

I enjoy the shovel far too much.

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I been trying to get a good shovel

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I seriously want to rip the Darktide Downed SFX solely for my soundboard

The sheer dread it brings

Lmao

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Downed SFX
"Aid me, kindred!"

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Yes however... Which shovel

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https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

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Foldies

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Play the death sfx occasionally

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Mk3 personally

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It's the "Shit is hitting the fan" sound for me

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Mk7 fan

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Keep your team on their toes UwU

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Literally just the SMS except I say

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I like you already.

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Oh is that a crusher or Mauler?

Wrath

Die

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Both

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SMS when Im feeling like bullying mutants

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Shovel gang

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Special their head staggering them lmao

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Hehehehe One Tap Thrust go brrrr

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Yeah I heard

Thrust + Uncanny?

I know it's thrust

With Mk3 is great for Maulers and Crushers

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Thrust and Skullcrusher

One tapping left and right BITCH

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Oughta try it

Typically do Skull + Deci on my Mk7

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I feel insane one tapping shit everywhere

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Mmmm, I see. I haven't used the Mk7 yet.

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It's heavy pattern is literally

The SMS

Except you get the Fold special

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Oh, so just swing swong?

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Spam heavy gameplay

Crusher?

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I should try it out.

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Fold Heavy

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Yeah brah

Folded heavy and you charge that shit up

Bye bye

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Crushers getting sent straight to Nurgles garden going

What happened

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"Ogryn too str—"
GLEECHK

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I bet it's far more malicious with Maulers

EARN YOUR RATIONS AND KI-

Chain unrevving sfx

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Lmao

We should do a shovel game

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I oughta toss you an add when I'm free

Regarding knife Zealots

I think the most common thing I'll hear is

Silence, followed with the Danger Icon, With the poxhound mauling someone over an intercom

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Feel free to.

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what's the meta shooter atm? Been using revo for ages and it seems like it's gotten weaker

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Plasma and Columnus auto are top dogs, revolver is still great though, recon las ever since fixes is pretty good now too

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I think the go to are Plasma And Column V

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revolver is one of the best guns in the game rn

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Plasma, Columnus IAG Mk5 and Zarona

Those are the top three.

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I'd like to clarify that recon is still literally the worst ranged weapon

Its just less bad than before

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been playing since release and never used the plasma properly.

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Shotguns and Recons sitting at the kiddies table.

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unless...

crit build

This is just "for fun"

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I'd suggest imo the headhunters but they really aren't "meta"

It's simply if you can click on heads you're doing great

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I've found mixed results with headhunters

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V3 and v7 headhunters are very strong

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Even shotguns are pretty good

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I'm just spamming the fire button half the time trying to full auto

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Not plasma meme level but right under it

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As they can 1-shot a lot of elites

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Wrong, they are competitive with other options, just not plasma or columnus tier

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Which one, v3 can be played like an iag

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Cope

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No they're trash

OK ish on ammo economy now

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There's videos upon videos of recons being shit

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Mk 7 headhunter my beloved

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Still dumpster tier dmg which is unchanged

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Once more Recon apologists appear

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This one

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Switch surgical to headhunter

Perks are pretty bad though

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A shame anout the perks

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V3 is like a highly accurate iag

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If it's as bad as you claim, how am I carrying every auric maelstrom i play with it?

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Headhunter is a blessing with the MK 3

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I wish it had a flashlight though

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Better but still bad Perks

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or am i just being carried according to you?

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The blessing, no pun intended

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Lol main character

Sure

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Ideally you run unarmored flak

For v7