Pretty good
#veteran-class
dire olive
polar charm
lolrolled this one for kicks.
dire olive
Not bad
hollow ibex
sunder/brumentum + pc4 are the meta blessing combos
terse idol
The tier 4 Sundar worth anything? Even better than Wrath 4?
Nope, energized hits already cleave like crazy
tall torrent
The tier 4 Sundar worth anything? Even better than Wrath 4?
Yes
tall torrent
Nope, energized hits already cleave like crazy
Sunder gives 400% cleave and minimum 4 targets hit by cleave (crushers, maulers, scab ragers, etc)
polar charm
Huh. Neat. Got both power cycler 4 and sunder 4 so kinda tempted to make a workable powersword.
tall torrent
Sunder gives u the highest cleave currently possible in this game
odd sparrow
Brutal momentum is way better tho, gives infinite cleave on weakspot kill and the weakspot dmg helps with hitting 1hit breakpoints
tall torrent
Brutal momentum is way better tho, gives infinite cleave on weakspot kill and th...
BM is capped at transferring first target dmg to 4 enemies
It’s good
Sunder is just for a different purpose
odd sparrow
For clearing trash that doesnt matter
terse idol
It does matter
rocky oriole
I hope when space marines 2 comes out we get some kick ass Cadian armor
terse idol
Horde clear is important 🥹
sonic marlin
fun
slender turtle
Horde clear is important 🥹
Is it? i keep seeing zealots running ahead and only targeting elites and then getting netted
terse idol
How's that change things 
slow spade
Is it? i keep seeing zealots running ahead and only targeting elites and then ge...
Yeah you need hordeclear to kill the horde of trappers UwU
Shock Gauntlet says "Trapper Tuesday"
slender turtle
Yeah you need hordeclear to kill the horde of trappers UwU
brave bear
Castiel Plasteel
sonic marlin
wish it was rank 4 tho
sonic marlin
Castiel Plasteel
what
slender turtle
interesting
replace sustained with dumdum and unarmored with flak or maniac, you got a nice lil' shredder
sonic marlin
replace sustained with dumdum and unarmored with flak or maniac, you got a nice ...
I know, I already have one
sonic marlin
>unarmored
slender turtle
Unarmored is only good on Caxes and knives
sonic marlin
I love magdumping crowds
slender turtle
It was a self-defense sitaution
sonic marlin
i don't do defense
sonic marlin
don't care; didn't read; keep thinking; solve it urself
terse idol
I love magdumping crowds
Crowds aren't unarmoured except some enemies no?
Wait what the fuck
sonic marlin
https://tenor.com/view/text-bubble-gif-25667436
sonic marlin
Crowds aren't unarmoured except some enemies no?
terse idol
Ciag already clears hordes fast
pearl granite
testing some nade fun, somehow blind luck let me drop 5 krak nades on the boss with 3 throws, and become top boss damage dealer 😂
sonic marlin
why can't that stripped fire be lvl 4 instead
terse idol
But it was a lock anyways
slow spade
Not enough to uh justify running it on ciag
Just noting
terse idol
Yuhh
slender turtle
Fuck dreg gunners
Just put on onslaught
slow spade
Just put on onslaught
What weapon doesn't have 100% pen vs unarmored lol
Onslaught would be useless
slender turtle
recon las
I joke
slow spade
I'm actually not sure on that one
sonic marlin
another brick
slender turtle
I don't know. I don't use the gun till a fs dev realizes how bad it is
sonic marlin
i hate this game
slender turtle
another brick
I wouldn't have even put that past purple
sonic marlin
I wouldn't have even put that past purple
i feel like not completing any Melk mission ever again
junior needle
another brick
Rolling 67 damage? I could accept 69 but that’s just too low
Another 2 points for perfection
vital garnet
build thoughts on mk6 knife?
tall torrent
Unarmored is only good on Caxes and knives
HB2
sonic marlin
loks the same
slow spade
Darktide releases discontinued, all efforts on Helldivers 2 confirmed
junior needle
build thoughts on mk6 knife?
Typical knife setup, uncanny and something else. If you want to spam lights then the 6 is strictly worse than the 3.
slow spade
Super Earth WILL prosper
hollow ibex
Uncanny and haymaker for the memes 
tired hornet
If damnation, sure to take a plasmagun so you can actually do something rather than run around and deal no damage
vital garnet
Typical knife setup, uncanny and something else. If you want to spam lights then...
yeah, heavies seem pretty good so far on the 6
vital garnet
If damnation, sure to take a plasmagun so you can actually do something rather ...
Lol, new to knife but not vet. Seen plenty of people running 800K+ damage on knife/revo anyways
just mucking around testing it so far, even without uncanny the TTK on elites and specialists is good
polar charm
MK III or MK VI power sword for power cycler 4/sunder 4 combo?
vital garnet
what does sunder even do? Rending?
polar charm
Infinicleave.
vital garnet
brutal momentum/pc on the mk6 sword is pretty hard to beat
tired hornet
Every knife vet I’ve encountered has been useless. Only exception was one guy who was good because he mostly shot with his plasma gun. At this point I just use it as a sign everyone on the team will have to step it up to carry the dead weight
hollow ibex
MK III or MK VI power sword for power cycler 4/sunder 4 combo?
Always mk6
vital garnet
Every knife vet I’ve encountered has been useless. Only exception was one guy wh...
I don’t really play with pubs but when we have a fill player I’ve had plenty who somehow are useless w a psword
mostly looking for some variety from me overusing the Rashad lol
hollow ibex
I feel like knife players are usually either really good or really bad
junior needle
yeah, heavies seem pretty good so far on the 6
Better cleave than the lights so they feel more impactful, but the speed at which they come out and the combo cancelling required means you only get a bit better clear than light spam
tired hornet
That’s true, it’s possible to be useless with any weapon. But with knife it’s pretty much every person using it.
vital garnet
Better cleave than the lights so they feel more impactful, but the speed at whic...
oh yeah for sure. Horde seems could go either way, was thinking on single target
tired hornet
I’ve seen a few good knife zealots and zero good knife vets
vital garnet
Noticed you can throw H3 as a light attack following the punch which is interesting
hollow ibex
oh yeah for sure. Horde seems could go either way, was thinking on single target
Safest combo for horde clear on mk6 is l1 h2 anyway
polar charm
tall torrent
Hand batt mk 2?
helbore mk2 needs unarmored to 1 shot dreg gunners in the face
pearl granite
so i'm having fun with weapon specialist build, agripanaa shotgun and catachan mk4 sword. some success in auric damnation, just not histg yet 😂
slender turtle
helbore mk2 needs unarmored to 1 shot dreg gunners in the face
⚾ I like mine more
pearl granite
the gun still take a bunch of shot to kill elite and big stuff but I got 3 nades and chance for 2x of them...
tall torrent
what does sunder even do? Rending?
400% cleave, minimum 4 targets hit by cleave (regardless of mass)
tall torrent
⚾ I like mine more
trim steppe
so i'm having fun with weapon specialist build, agripanaa shotgun and catachan m...
If youre having fun it sounds like the perfect build. yeah the apripina shotty is good at headshot sniping specials but starts to struggle with bulk since its slow
you could take krak instead of shredder if you want to help with big stuff, assuming you have a decent way to deal with swarms
tiny summit
Wish you could load up as many special shots as you wanted
Make it a slower reload. Just let me have a full tube of fire ammo
slender turtle
Wish you could load up as many special shots as you wanted
Imagine having to hit the special button all the time. Be agonizing
tiny summit
If it was like "hold special to load" as many as you want it'd be fine
Also some interesting mods that admech pfp has
pearl granite
yeah, that would be some great buff / QOL as well
slender turtle
Also some interesting mods that admech pfp has
Honestly, the only gameplay mod I would be glad to have more than anything. Just keep spamming kantrael fire shells
south gazelle
My veteran has the best outfit
wary galleon
https://tenor.com/view/bug-beetle-gif-18439758
tiny summit
Kinda mad there's how many variations of the class's standard uniform in the commissary and almost othing of variety based on the penance unlocks or prisoner theme outfits. Like say armored prisoner garb or as many colors as the standard uniform offerings
tacit wren
That's every class though
The cosmetics you can earn in game are certain ones and mostly reskins/recolors
The cosmetics that are more unique are through aquilas. even the stuff you earn in penance are mostly recolors with a few unique ones
frank ether
Kinda mad there's how many variations of the class's standard uniform in the com...
I see you enjoy your mediocre live service slop with some salt on the side
I agree btw
tiny summit
That's every class though
Yes I know. And I think it's dumb that in-game earnables are severely neglected
frank ether
some really low effort stuff out there in the aquilla shop that I would ignore even as ordo docket options lmao
tiny summit
Especially FOMO recolors
frank ether
yea the recolors are the most outrageous part
I think I could at least give them the benefit of the doubt if they included recolors in bundles or better yet separated camos entirely as their own separate inventory slot to give players customizability
tiny summit
If I buy a style, I should have that style with X colors as a premium cosmetic or have it unlocked with dockets. I'll pay for unique models and shit but the recolors just turns me away
frank ether
Its kind of an uh..
test of your mental resistance to fomo bs
I mean the rotational shop is there for probably this reason
so they can sell recolors and such
tiny summit
Been over a year and there's only 2 colors for weapons for dockets
Yep. People won't know its a recolor if they either didn't see or remember the previous cycle
frank ether
Will probably remain that way till this game dies tbh
I've had uh.. more drip in free to play games
I think fucking apex legends gave me more drip without paying a dollar
I played that game like.. maybe 50 hours? I was swimming in cosmetics
I guess that game's version of fomo is like lootbox gambling though
so they prolly got some giga whales
tiny summit
Game still going strong despite having several cycles of absurd event cosmetic pricing
frank ether
I'm confident game could lose another %75 of its current playerbase and fatshark would probably not care
I'd still be playing Apex if it didn't shift focus towards crossplay and consoles in particular
I'm too casual to deal with aim assist tuned to compete against pro level mouse aim
I can't just come home tired and play like shroud on adderal just to get a kill lmao
tiny summit
I'm satisfied right now. Came in when the class overhauls happened. Binged it, all characters are decently kitted and melk isn't reliable enough to worry about weeklies. Now to grind Tekken 8
I'll pay attention when new content drops but yea got other games. Actually, slow updates are good for me because now I can focus on other things
frank ether
for darktide yea playing the shopping mall experience was never the strong suit of the game anyways
tiny summit
Debating if I want to learn reina. She looks cool but I'm playing yoshi who is also cool.
spark helm
play who you think is cool yk?
It's tekken. :3
Reina is straight up the first Mishima I've ever seen and thought "yeah, I'll play them"
Her animations and design are too cool to me.
Lightning but...checks notes
tiny summit
Apparently she's like near the top in popularity for player choice
spark helm
P U R P LE?!
From a friend that plays the game I was told that she's like third or something in online player picks.
Third or sixth. Can probably look it up somewhere.
this one is from event hubs from feb 01 this year
spark helm
Granted, idk where eventhubs is getting that info and eventhubs has had a shaky past in the past with being a little inconsistent to agenda'd with their info reveals.
but whatever.
tiny summit
Granted, idk where eventhubs is getting that info and eventhubs has had a shaky ...
It's taking the leaderboards in the game
spark helm
Might be a twitter post or something from harada.
spark helm
It's taking the leaderboards in the game
Got you.
tiny summit
So it's only 10k players
spark helm
I'll admit to just snatching the image and not checking anything else.
so thanks for the clarity.
tiny summit
But I will say with my short time and only just now reaching yellow last night, I've definitely seen Reina the most
spark helm
Yeah and the person that did it mentions this on twitter too. It's for steam pc specifically at warrior rank and the 10k cap you mentioned.
tiny summit
Dragunov and Reina stocks
spark helm
But yeah, reina is definitely a popular one. I think she's neat but I'm more into Azucena because I think she's just great.
tiny summit
War crime dance
tiny summit
Jk I just need to understand what she's doing
spark helm
She might be in that same realm as like Lucky Chloe but much more evasive I really don't know shit about thse games like that specfically.
Usually the mobile stance fiends get gaps in they shit that's free licks for you after being in the lab for a little bit.
tiny summit
Only yellow rank at warrior. Yoshi spinning low kicks so free
spark helm
Yoshi always got the coldest designs for the monster characters.
I fucking love them.
spark helm
Tekken 4 yoshi?
With the beetle wings?
T7 is probably my favorite so far rn
Straight out the fucking deeps Yoshimitsu
Abyssal Manji Warrior, Yoshimitsu (T7)
tiny summit
Man bloody roar would be cool if it came back
wary galleon
i love me brautogun
imagine what i could do with a STUBBER OR HOTSHOT
FATSHARK PLS IM BEGGIN YOU
spark helm
I'm actuallu fucked up over how the og bloody roar was more responsive than I thought it'd be.
wary galleon
I LOST THE WIFE AND KIDS
spark helm
Got to play it years ago./
junior needle
imagine what i could do with a STUBBER OR HOTSHOT
We have hotshot at home
wise fossil
So Puppet Master for Psyker and Towering Presence for Ogryn are both coherency radius, whereas Charismatic is just aura radius, not coherency. Is that correct?
spark helm
yes
wait
yeah just aura radius
with all of your coherency bonuses being extended to that range.
junior needle
So Puppet Master for Psyker and Towering Presence for Ogryn are both coherency r...
Charismatic is your coherency and it also affects VOC range for whatever reason
Your aura range is, or at least should be, your coherency
wise fossil
Charismatic is your coherency and it also affects VOC range for whatever reason
So it does affect toughness regen and stuff like For the Emperor then?
junior needle
Not directly, but it should have all the benefits of extending your coherency
wise fossil
I figured it only applied to stuff like Survivalist due to the difference in wording compared to Towering Presence
junior needle
One important thing to note is that fatshark tooltips blow
Like how some talents say "base damage" for absolutely no reason, when it's actually just regular damage
It was labeled "base" for no reason
wise fossil
Yeah I've heard that even the iconless talant nodes will be coded differently. Like two nodes that both say +5% toughness damage reduction might not work exactly the same
junior needle
Probably to make it multiplicative
wise fossil
Might be yeah
wary galleon
@untold mulch
slow spade
Yeah I've heard that even the iconless talant nodes will be coded differently. L...
They hate tooltips
The Omnissiah declared "fuck easily understood information"
wary galleon
just like the imperium 😍
untold mulch
<@317740751322742785>
Real
tiny summit
The mysteries of the warp is fatshark coding.
untold mulch
I think Tzeentch would be baffled at their code
bitter turtle
https://vxtwitter.com/AlietteFaye/status/1753217490971246997
lili and asuka adjacent to each other
all is right in the world
I don't understand why they didnt bring back Jack 7
spark helm
>lili and asuka adjacent to each other
Only people I know that play those characters are people that are just specialists of them lmao.
Is there not a single Jack in T8?
bitter turtle
yes
there is
im just shitposting
since he's jack 8 now
gomen
also i play lili
spark helm
sall good
shenanigannery is fine
will admit that jack 8 looking so serious is new to me.
but then again the implication of jack is just as messed up in the tekken story
lol
serene sage
T8? we getting new difficulty?
elder fiber
idle swallow
Playing Paul where I decide my next move by throwing a dart at a dart board (every spot is death fist)
wanton dawn
I am so freaking tired right now
civic knot
Did they downgrade the servers?!!
My game is lagging and freezing every 40 seconds or so
spark helm
Playing Paul where I decide my next move by throwing a dart at a dart board (eve...
The correct answer is the only answer at the moment.
Live your life one death fist at a time.
graceful plover
Recon lasgun and a shovel
untold mulch
My game is lagging and freezing every 40 seconds or so
at this rate who knows
terse idol
My game is lagging and freezing every 40 seconds or so
Its probably your isp
terse idol
at this rate who knows
Okay come on, the game runs well... usually
But many stuttering or lagging isn't common 🥹
untold mulch
To me it run like shit a few days ago when I did a match with a friend
untold mulch
we both were mid-match going "you know what, kark this shit"
terse idol
untold mulch
Works on my machine™️
Damn
slow spade
To me it run like shit a few days ago when I did a match with a friend
Lol someone didn't use blessed oil
Got to seduce the Machine Spirit for 60 fps
untold mulch
I take it as a sign that even my own rig is tired of the fish BS
slow spade
I take it as a sign that even my own rig is tired of the fish BS
Me still forcing my comp to play Darktide despite DRG, L4D, and Helldivers existing
terse idol
Like, the only time I had lag and stuttering was before my internet was fixed
The previous internet guys put so many splitters into my internet it was slugged
civic knot
Its probably your isp
the freeze only lasts like 1,5 seconds or so then it continues as usual
untold mulch
Me still forcing my comp to play Darktide despite DRG, L4D, and Helldivers exist...
My friend convinced me to get HD2 today
Yeahhhh 
Fucking worth it
terse idol
the freeze only lasts like 1,5 seconds or so then it continues as usual
Yes
Same problem as I had, I rubber banded in place
I would defo check your ISP
civic knot
OK
untold mulch
Fighting the bugs at start was annoying and feeling like we were lacking tools
then we jumped to the cyborgs
Why this is suddenly D-DAY!
slow spade
*Why this is suddenly D-DAY!*
Sorry Eagle stratagem 💅💅💅
terse idol
*Why this is suddenly D-DAY!*
Making me feel like you're in terminator judgement day
See this is why I bring the 380mm barrage
untold mulch
Sorry Eagle stratagem 💅💅💅
I was gonna ignore it
then a tooltip went "don't forget to use stratagem of rearm to have them ready"
And I went oh thats why they have uses
slow spade
I was gonna ignore it
then a tooltip went "don't forget to use stratagem of rea...
Artillery is for kings
untold mulch
Making me feel like you're in terminator judgement day
Fr
slow spade
I WILL make this planet look like the moon
slow spade
Yet
untold mulch
See this is why I bring the 380mm barrage
Only at level 5 
Still unlocking stuff
Spamming disposable launchers to survive
atomic zephyr
went back to kantrael laspistol (my beloved) after using a well rolled plasma for a bit and holy fuck, plasma is so overtuned lmao
does basically everything better besides like, mobility and ammo efficiency
terse idol
went back to kantrael laspistol (my beloved) after using a well rolled plasma fo...
I'm waiting for the next balance patch because for me it's very hard to compare weapons when we got the trifecta of broke weapons
junior needle
Energy, unlimited ammo, perfect accuracy
Well shit, I might get the game if it has actually satisfying laser weapons
untold mulch
Well shit, I might get the game if it has actually satisfying laser weapons
If the main draw is laser weapons, rn it only has two and are constant beams
Rifle one and a Shoulder one
junior needle
Beam weapons are cool too
untold mulch
Which IMo dont quite hit the same
Hopefully they add the one in HD1 that was a pulse beam
You dont need to reload as long as you dont 100% heat
untold mulch
Beam weapons are cool too
I personally dont like them, but check it out on a video if you wish
Also I hope more games copy the aiming system
Makes heavy weapons actually handle like heavy weapons
atomic zephyr
i saw, the heavy weapons turn slower than the cursor right?
looks extremely satisfying
untold mulch
i saw, the heavy weapons turn slower than the cursor right?
Mhmm, kind alike WarThunder?
atomic zephyr
iiiiiiii kinda see where you're coming from
untold mulch
Looks weird, you would think is shit
and then you actually play and is a blast
Got a grenade at my feet
Leapt backwards downhill, while still firing at the target
felt the coolest in the squad for a sec
also the two factions are so different
The Bugs is full on starship troopers and you are constantly with the head barely above water trying to contain the tide of bugs
Then the Cyborgs is D-day and you are dodging tracers and missiles
atomic zephyr
ill have to wait to see if sony budges and puts it on geforce now
hopes are not high
untold mulch
Fair enough
Also good pfp
atomic zephyr
thanks :D
untold mulch
I absolutely love how that fanart made everyone in the community go
yeah, thats her 100%
atomic zephyr
untold mulch
Would have preferred her as the constant voice instead of Ayre 👀
untold mulch
I mean, I played all ACs
I expect everyone to be gaslighting/lying to me
atomic zephyr
y'know what, fair enough lmao
untold mulch
Like Ayre actually being geniuine was me half the game
🤨 What have you hidden
FS has me trained to expect betrayal
untold mulch
Based ending 😎
atomic zephyr
poor maeterlinck
untold mulch
Just a tiny bit of trolling
untold mulch
poor maeterlinck
Literally gets thrown into the worst matchup of the planet
untold mulch
I wish there was more everything
acoustic carbon
To my understanding, this means any kind of damage that can be dealt to enemies. And not only for the tagged enemy. It's correct yeah? Talking about the statement Damage here.
untold mulch
More Walter, More Carla, More Chatty
atomic zephyr
To my understanding, this means any kind of damage that can be dealt to enemies....
redirect fire applies to all enemies after death of tagged enemy
its a buff for you
untold mulch
To my understanding, this means any kind of damage that can be dealt to enemies....
Basically a buff to the group that gives them 1.5% damage per stack to anything they do
atomic zephyr
is very good
or at least it feels good to have it at max stacks
untold mulch
also refreshes alone, I think
Like, if you tag at max stacks and later tag at min stacks
acoustic carbon
is very good
or at least it feels good to have it at max stacks
It is incredibly good compared to other two keystones.
atomic zephyr
yeah it do
acoustic carbon
you refresh the max stacks
correct.
atomic zephyr
though im also a marksman's focus enjoyer with IAGs
untold mulch
20ish% toughness regen to everyone is pretty good
atomic zephyr
yeah focus target is just good all around
getting a good loop going w/ it and a lucius seems to evaporate most specials
i cba to check the breakpoints though
more damage is more damage
untold mulch
I use mainly automatics so mroe damage is always good
acoustic carbon
yeah focus target is just good all around
It means you and your team dealing additional %12 damage to the enemies the entire map. A wonderful keystone to have, for me.
deft ivy
i played my first game with helbore mk2 and my hand freaking hurts now lol
atomic zephyr
i really wanna use ILGs more but the IV and Ia feel like they kick slightly too much and the XII...i dunno, it just dont feel the same
also hadron bricked my otherwise perfect Ia so
380 (or near 380), flakiac, headhunter (or whatever that blessing is)....and infernus.
untold mulch
Ilas is just in a weird spot
atomic zephyr
yeah
atomic zephyr
i'd kill for a burst lasgun
untold mulch
XII has been power creeped
atomic zephyr
or a good automatic lasgun but fatshark wont let that happen
untold mulch
Also the reverse falloff hurts a lot
IV should have normal falloff
it having reverse is just dumb
atomic zephyr
yeah it just don work
untold mulch
Design team at obese tuna just don't think what they are doing
untold mulch
or a good automatic lasgun but fatshark wont let that happen
Recon, any day now
atomic zephyr
ill check in in five years
untold mulch
Still shit
bitter turtle
i thought laspis might be too dinky for no ammo scabs
actually pretty decent though
infernus actually useful over dumdum
dunno if it was just bc itw as no ammo scabs but i might prefer wep specialist over marksman focus
bitter turtle
It is incredibly good compared to other two keystones.
nah
stamina/toughness is the best one to feed deadshot
keep in mind most ppl dont build their guns around you giving a conditional damage buff
some dude on your team with revolver doesnt care if they get 10% more dmg from your buff, their 2k per shot on a crusher being buffed to 2.2k doesnt actually make a difference, still takes 2 shots to kill
meanwhile toughness feeding is nice on top of the stamina feeding for deadshot builds is insanely good
if i can only take 1 its usually that one
acoustic carbon
stamina/toughness is the best one to feed deadshot
I meant the other keystones on the left and rigth path. The Marksman's Focus and Weapon's Specialist.
But sure, that one's great too. No denying there.
bitter turtle
i think
in term sof standalone biggest effect
i would say wep specialist is more impactful then
its a huge difference on melees
but very expensive to path down there
compared to the middle tree where you naturally always have to path halfway down anyway because tac awareness
timid otter
Considering how many bps there are a player cannot build for every breakpoint
so 5% or 6% damage might actually do something here, there.
bitter turtle
that's a big maybe
timid otter
Its really not
bitter turtle
on a damage buff that's already inconsistent
untold mulch
I meant the other keystones on the left and rigth path. The Marksman's Focus and...
Ohhh
100%
bitter turtle
alright, name one off the top of your head that activates off redirect fire lol
untold mulch
Marksman Focus I still personalyl state is terrible
bitter turtle
on a gun that's already built properly ofc
i'd actually say its quite rare
most of the time if you're only 10% away from the bp you can twist your tree into making it work if its important
and when someone gives up on the bp its because its too far to bother
timid otter
I think you somewhat miss the point
acoustic carbon
but very expensive to path down there
True. I mainly love the Focus Target as it's teamwide, instead of only you. Tag a Beast of Nurgle at 8 stacks, it'll receive +32% damage. and if you had stacked the Redirect Fire 8 times, that's +12% damage from there and you'll deal remarkable damage to the Boss. Which are the enemy types that can end a level out of the blue on some cases, sadly.
raw steppe
alright, name one off the top of your head that activates off redirect fire lol
You usually build for your own BPs rather than anybody elses
bitter turtle
You usually build for your own BPs rather than anybody elses
ya that's what im saying lol
timid otter
Theres multiple types of enemies in the game
raw steppe
But gunner BP
timid otter
Weapons can crit, headshot.
raw steppe
Is hit with tag
timid otter
One of the breakpoints will be hit with 5% or 6% just due to the pure number of variables in the game.
bitter turtle
One of the breakpoints will be hit with 5% or 6% just due to the pure number of ...
if its so common
like i said
name one
but being someone that almost exclusively uses semi autos
timid otter
Dreg shotgunners on mk 6 catachan knife.
bitter turtle
i can say its very rare
timid otter
Its what i currently have open
And yes it would hit the bp on shotgunners with 5% to 6%
raw steppe
Are you hitting shotgunners with melee very often
I feel like i very rarely melee them
terse idol
This is the issue that... 5% and 6% extra damage in practice is very tiny
bitter turtle
YES
terse idol
Very rarely will you ever need 5 or 6%
bitter turtle
timid otter
Nah just interested
bitter turtle
their head is unarmored
but yes
im running flak
every relevant melee buff taken
rending does nothing ofc since unarmored
80/80/80 knife too
timid otter
Generally the actual breakpoint discussion is going nowhere.
bitter turtle
its going nowhere bc its not common of a scenario at all
and even if this was an example
u'd
have to be in coherency fighting this exact enemy with a perfectly rolled knife
and only in that situation
and that one alone
redirect fire might do something
if its stacked enough lmao
tall torrent
I mean, depends on weapon
tall torrent
Some weapons benefit from RF a lot
bitter turtle
but about half the weapons in the game dont really care about it
tall torrent
I think if u don’t need RF to maintain breakpoint, target down is better
bitter turtle
that's why I'd run target down over it almost always unless the RF is for urself
all the team buff shit is sadly something you should only consider as a nice bonus if it happens to help your team
primarily its for your own benefit
tall torrent
Pretty much
terse idol
what does it mean 🥹
timid otter
Theres alot of 6% to 5% on there
bitter turtle
im illiterate
timid otter
It doesnt factor in every enemy in the game.
bitter turtle
picture is confusing
terse idol
No but like explain what it meeans
tall torrent
Also RF scales off ur base dmg
terse idol
Also RF scales off ur base dmg
Wait for a knife that's pretty terrible
timid otter
I changed it to instead of damage numbers its breakpoints'
bitter turtle
i still dont fully understand
nor do i even know what weapon this is
running what tree
tall torrent
Wait for a knife that's pretty terrible
TLDR is, unless you have weapons that specifically benefit in breakpoints from from RF, target down is better (and that’s still a situational luxury pick imo)
8 stacks modifier is generally not good enough to be worth running
timid otter
8(6%) means that it needs 8 hits to kill the target.
terse idol
Well the calculator doesn't actually take into account any perks does it?
timid otter
its 6% away from hitting a breakpoint
terse idol
I mean talents
white minnow
is that a agri braced?
bitter turtle
what weapon even takes 8 hits to kill a bulwark unless its auto
timid otter
But the general point is that weapons can benefit from 5% to 6% without knowing it
terse idol
8(6%) means that it needs 8 hits to kill the target.
That does mean it's 6% away from getting a bp of 7
timid otter
Becuase theres so many enemies in the game.
And so many variables in how damage is dealt.
terse idol
I mean
bitter turtle
by that same logic
white minnow
on the otherhand that breakpoint may be reached by taking something like +elite damage or whatnot
bitter turtle
there are even more situations where it did absolutely nothing
terse idol
Its why people build for their own break points
timid otter
on the otherhand that breakpoint may be reached by taking something like +elite ...
Ye thats what i was orignally testing
bitter turtle
that's why nobody relies on something like redirect
unless its the person using it
terse idol
Yeah
white minnow
at least with weapon spec, i don't have to do any breakpoint testing
terse idol
Like, its why nobody builds for a break point from any other class
white minnow
attack speed goes brrr
terse idol
You only ever build your own
timid otter
on the otherhand that breakpoint may be reached by taking something like +elite ...
I suspect the catachan mk 6 actually wants elites instead of flak with desperado, 10% melee.
tall torrent
I’ll be honest, I don’t really care too much about breakpoint calculations if it’s more than 3 headshots to kill
tall torrent
Redirect fire is good for several 1 shot kill guns
I wouldn’t take it for smth like iag5
bitter turtle
yeah its situationally good for yourself
the "team utility" aspect of it shouldn't really be considered is what i was getting at
tall torrent
I take it for myself and whatever dmg bonus it gives to my teammates is just me being nice
bitter turtle
personally I find the stam regen node far more useful anyway for 1shot kill guns just to continuously sustain deadshot for crit bps
but if a gun needs RF for a bp that's the main situation it shines in
tall torrent
The only gun I really take crit breakpoint seriously is Mk2a revolver tbh
timid otter
Im going to go back to what i was doing now
tall torrent
not v7?
V7 I think gunner 1 hs is better to hit without crit anyways
Crit BP is flamer 1HS
bitter turtle
nah not for gunners
i also build it for no crit gunners
but rager/flamers
and to a lesser extent maulers
tall torrent
I think flamer already is crit 1HS even without maniac
bitter turtle
I think flamer already is crit 1HS even without maniac
its not
midnight totem
just had a level 16 vet in my damnation game
bitter turtle
i even need to run 10% rending to do it
bitter turtle
otherwise it doesnt reach
midnight totem
that was painful
tall torrent
https://i.gyazo.com/3140eb23b59d741d159cdab21c5a75ac.jpg
Tag them prob
bitter turtle
that's w/o 10% rending
with 10% it kills
need 3 tag stacks (at least for my gun is 72/80, its literally 9 dmg off so maybe 80/80 would only need 2 stacks) if you dont run 10% rending
tbh since its on the way to focus target i just take the 10% rending anyway
midnight totem
I think the only issue with the kantrael laspistol to me
Is that it cannot kill dogs
tall torrent
I think the only issue with the kantrael laspistol to me
I hate how bad it is vs flamers
Mk2 Laspistol is better imo
midnight totem
Gotta land those headshots for flamers
bitter turtle
it staggers them pretty quick at least
midnight totem
Atleast the flamer doesn't go flying around
bitter turtle
and ya
midnight totem
I have to jerk my mouse around to track a dog even after shooting it in the head
bitter turtle
i do not like the kant laspistol
made me almost drop teh weapon at first
feels like the gun wants to spam for ghost procs and it does not do that nearly as well
midnight totem
Nah, accutran is for ghost procs
bitter turtle
do you run it ghostless @ kant?
midnight totem
I run reassuringly accurate instead
It's more likely to kill on a crit with its higher base damage
And it has good base crit
Plus my crit node and my often guaranteed crit from weapon specialist
tall torrent
I wish the mk10 laspistol had better maniac dmg and better dmg over range
bitter turtle
🤔
sounds alright if you're using it as a revolver-lite
maybe ill stick that on and give it a whirl
tall torrent
I have a super cursed build for Laspistol rn
bitter turtle
do u not run dumdum then?
midnight totem
Per magazine
bitter turtle
since it sounds like u just swap to it and shoot once and swap back
midnight totem
I run dumdum and reassuring
midnight totem
That's true lol
bitter turtle
slim pickings among the blessings
midnight totem
I mean, I can swap, lay down quite a number of shots
Swap, melee. Swap back, lay down more shots
Revolver I'll have to reload somewhere there if I want to engage more then five targets
bitter turtle
i kinda enjoyed
wep specialist more than mf
at least on my last no ammo run with laspis
maybe ill try it
midnight totem
That's a large chunk of time not dealing damage
bitter turtle
in theory kant should benefit more
midnight totem
I put
Elite and maniac on my kantrael
I find it's flak damage is high enough
Elite helps with maniac ragers
bitter turtle
not high enough to kill a flak rager on a bodyshot 😔
im testing what things i can just bodyshot lul
midnight totem
I go for headshots
bitter turtle
god damn
midnight totem
Except on maulers
midnight totem
And it tears apart maulers with repeat body shots
If you also have reciprocity node for more crit
It can be very powerful
Because you also generate more toughness out of every crit kill
bitter turtle
man
midnight totem
Crit more, more toughness
bitter turtle
this thing could do 20% or so more dmg honestly
i think
and be fair
vs the mk2
i like the idea but its sad a lot of things it cant oneshot evenw ith the gauranteed crit
midnight totem
Yeah. It's not a revolver
bitter turtle
flamer, rager, dreg gunner, ironically it can kill shotgunner on flak body but not unarmored head
midnight totem
But two shots to kill most things honestly isn't bad
tall torrent
I have a super cursed build for Laspistol rn
As cursed as this looks, this actually kinda works
I run combat axe + laspistol
tall torrent
I unironically think if left pathing wasn’t the best option
Right path for aura is the best route
Even taking smokes
bitter turtle
nah
well
i agree minus the smokes
i started running v3 with close and kill
and i honestly dont miss surv at all
tall torrent
I have had better time with smoke than krak
It’s good for repositioning vs mass shooters at range
bitter turtle
i accidentally brought smokes in a game once
honestly
it wasnt useless
hard to justify over shredder frags in the end either way though
tall torrent
Frag is best
bitter turtle
still funny to meme on smokes though
tall torrent
But I find smoke more useful than krak
bitter turtle
but i get what you mean by that tbh yeah
kraks kinda suck
even against armor packs, killing like 1 or 2 bulwark solves nothing
only thing it feels good at is monstro
bitter turtle
alright
im gonna wean myself off shredder
lets do this
actually should probably take shocktroop without surv
tall torrent
actually should probably take shocktroop without surv
Yea
I also take middle keystone for a bit of extra dmg
Gives me scab gunner 2HS with mk2 laspistol
I also don’t need desperado since 10% melee alone gives u the necessary breakpoints for combat axe
bitter turtle
i think i get it regardless
o wait
not at 18m~
man
i have to give up on overwatch if i want ogryn dmg
tall torrent
https://i.gyazo.com/ad0150881ac5fb52852077a3c92c75c7.png
U should still take grenade regen
Smoke is funny and having more smoke = more funny
bitter turtle
points stretched in too many directions now
i regret everything
fucking infiltrate
terse idol
@junior haven oh god escape the helldivers discord I thought general was bad
Its like general with a 5 minute cooldown
But woorse
tall torrent
fucking infiltrate
Infil pathing is just miserable
bitter turtle
if i take close and kill im taking the chance to NOT play voc for once
i do it on every tree
with c&k
civic knot
And smoke has way stronger pathing nodes
I have one counter argument: If you dont already have a survivalist vet, you are actively being a detriment to your team by not running it. Wish it wasnt that way but unfortunately thats the state of ammo economy in this game...
tall torrent
I have one counter argument: If you dont already have a survivalist vet, you are...
If there’s another veteran running survivalist I don’t need to play survivalist
I still use survivalist for my main builds, I was just experimenting with other stuff to see how much I can get away in ammo econ without survivalist
frank basin
The survivalist is not stack other survivalist?
tall torrent
Identical auras don’t stack
frank basin
That’s boofed
tall torrent
U can have 2 Psykers running the same cooldown aura and you only get the benefit of 1 aura
frank basin
So 5%?damage not stack identical aura
That’s suck to hear.
Aura kinda sucky but I think the coding of fs is spaghetti as so.
tall torrent
So 5%?damage not stack identical aura
Yep they don’t stack
If survivalist stacked you wouldn’t have ammo issues with plasma gun at all
4 dudes running survivalist (if it stacked) can literally make it go positive in ammo econ
frank basin
4% ammo regeneration
slow spade
technically you can run Survivalist + Scavenger (the starting vet aura)
but anyone willing to do that is insane and probably a heretic
tall torrent
technically you can run Survivalist + Scavenger (the starting vet aura)
Wait that stacks?
slow spade
yeah
slow spade
its a meme though rather than effective
tall torrent
Grab every single node before aura
frank basin
What is scavenger? That sound like old feats
tall torrent
What is scavenger? That sound like old feats
Default veteran aura when you don’t take any aura options
slow spade
yeah it gives 0.75% ammo back instead of 1%
but it does apparently stack for the funny 1.75% ammo
untold mulch
Wait that stacks?
Works with the bots
tiny summit
No buff stacking but weapon blessings still affecting things that aren't the weapon
frank basin
I didn’t know there is default aura.
slow spade
smh forgetting about the 2nd strongest aura in the game UwU
white minnow
lmao
that is a good way to describe scavenger
frank basin
Mediocre default aura
bitter turtle
god
infil really has like 100 ton weights on its leg
from pathing
its so good
also i think i used smoke grenades like 3 times in that whole match
hollow ibex
Too used to my voc crutch
hollow ibex
i use overwatch and +12% ability cd reduction
What does overwatch do again? Is it the cdr talent on elite kills?
bitter turtle
the double charge
hollow ibex
Oh ok
bitter turtle
double charge + 12% cd reduction on curios lul
hollow ibex
Yeah that’s the one that raises cooldown to like a minute iirc
bitter turtle
carves off a good 7 seconds and its rarely wasted since you're usually sitting on one charge
civic knot
Is graia brautogun any good? ive heard its good since the latest patch that buffed it a bit
midnight totem
I hate it
hollow ibex
I’m not a fan either but maybe I just don’t get it
midnight totem
doesn't feel like it does enough damage to justify its fire rate and relative low accuracy
civic knot
how about colomnus 2?
slow spade
I like the agri brauto the most
civic knot
is colomnus 2 better than graia?
midnight totem
hard to say, I never rolled a good one to play with
hollow ibex
how about colomnus 2?
Big mag but the accuracy feels terrible
The only braced auto I use is agri
junior needle
doesn't feel like it does enough damage to justify its fire rate and relative lo...
It does only slightly lower dps than the agri when braced
But it feels less punchy
We're talking like 50~ dps
hollow ibex
The bloom feels so bad
junior needle
Graia has the unique property of the spread halting and then tightening during bracing
tall torrent
Is graia brautogun any good? ive heard its good since the latest patch that buff...
It’s very funny
junior needle
But yeah the spread is pretty painful on all of them
tall torrent
Graia has the unique property of the spread halting and then tightening during b...
I think they should just have the braced mode have very tight shot grouping
Not “expand first then condense”
junior needle
I think they should just have the braced mode have very tight shot grouping
Agree, also tighten the braced spread for the other ones too
Maybe have the columnus brauto have the tightest hipfire
tall torrent
Graia does feel really good in braced mode tho due to zero recoil
Why are they even called “braced autoguns” when the only one worth bracing is only for a firerate increase
junior needle
Because uh
Game design is immeasurably complex and uhhhh
Small indie company, also it's snowing in sweden, please understand
paper brook
Game design is immeasurably complex and uhhhh
So is optimization
junior needle
Speaking of, that's another thing modders had to do for fatshark
shadow dagger
wait you're telling me mods can get my 3060ti to run more than 90fps in a lobby with a psyker on a soulblaze build
indigo hill
What melee should I use with plasma gun?
tall torrent
What melee should I use with plasma gun?
Anything that can handle horde clear and general melee targets well
Devil’s claw, chainsword and combat axe seem best to me
dusty nacelle
Speaking of, that's another thing modders had to do for fatshark
wait r there performance mods?
shrewd sable
damn, it requires rtx. I'm still gaming on a dinosaur 1080-ti 
dusty nacelle
I'm considering getting it but alot of replies are saying it makes your UI flicker alot
also wutever this means
if ur using it is it okay if u posted some gameplay?
tall torrent
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1361210/discussions/0/4040357419300735361/
Am waiting for AMD frame Gen tech to be utilized by fatshark
junior needle
do i get the 1st or 3rd one?
Take the universal one, that way you don't have to do anything else but drop it in
Yeah the subtitles and ui flicker a bit when you move, it's a consistent thing but doesn't make things unreadable for me.
You can uninstall it if you don't like it but I find 100+ fps outweighs the flickering by a huge margin
acoustic sapphire
This is the most badass group of randos I've ever played with. Several close calls, but we made it.
Infiltrator Veteran is so fun to play.
This did most of the work.
frank basin
Where’s the scoreboard to claim you did most work?
acoustic sapphire
I'm running vanilla, so my word's only as good as you think it is.
terse idol
Lacerate 
acoustic sapphire
That being said, having two uses of invisibility with a 25% speed boost helped me break out of near death multiple times, and got me to my downed team mates quickly.
frank basin
Bleed bad they said lol
bitter turtle
Lacerate deez nuts
frank basin
Lacerate milkie
bitter turtle
Bleed bad they said lol
That's because it is
shadow dagger
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1361210/discussions/0/4040357419300735361/
i gotta get on this
acoustic sapphire
This talent means I give 5 stacks of bleed, and if I hit a weak spot, instantly do an additional 60% damage. It's worked well for me at high levels.
I stand by it. Plus it's cool.
bitter turtle
Uncanny strikes is by far the best knife blessing so losing it is pretty bad
Also mercy killer only needs 1 stack to proc so you can just take serrated alone
frank basin
Bleed need bypass armor make like warframe did
bitter turtle
Hitting weak points is kinda the point of knife so it makes lacerate even more eh
acoustic sapphire
It might not be optimal, but I like it.
It's fun to land a heavy stab on a Crusher, and watch it bleed to death while it's winding up an overhead strike.
Makes me laugh.
bitter turtle
Use it if you like it 
terse idol
This talent means I give 5 stacks of bleed, and if I hit a weak spot, instantly ...
bleed isn't thaat much damage
frank basin
The whatever float your boat
acoustic sapphire
There is no better blessing. Lacerate is the greatest blessing in the game.
frank basin
Greatest…
bitter turtle
I'd say though
terse idol
it's terrible
frank basin
Lmao lacerate and flesh tearer
bitter turtle
8 is bigger than 4
And you can actually hit weakpoints and use that finesse stat on the knife lul
frank basin
There’s crits chance on finesse stats?
timid otter
This talent means I give 5 stacks of bleed, and if I hit a weak spot, instantly ...
40% extra
timid otter
Ye its pretty good with vet
bitter turtle
With a flechette lawbringer
bitter turtle
While cutting yourself and bleeding out irl
frank basin
frank basin
I have no knife
raw steppe
the problem is just that uncanny is simply overtuned rn
the numbers on it are just too high
not running it is like not running slaughterer pre-patch14
you can do it if you want to, but it's just suboptimal to do so
timid otter
https://i.gyazo.com/ef11309c58a8cb83451e24d1b32c82e8.png
That is a blessed sight.
tiny summit
You have a problem
timid otter
Its not a problem its a blessing
zealous depot
frank basin
The lowest
tall torrent
This talent means I give 5 stacks of bleed, and if I hit a weak spot, instantly ...
it's not 60% more dmg
zealous wyvern
frank basin
FS radio silent
flint lake
Too busy working on a new set of penances and recoloring cosmetics
tough tiger
slender turtle
https://i.gyazo.com/ef11309c58a8cb83451e24d1b32c82e8.png
You need to be stopped
junior needle
Uncanny/lacerate
wild vortex
Hello, is there a good resource for someone new to Vet but progressed to Damnation on Ogryn?
junior needle
Nope
Vets have to dig through the muck, no hand holding guides here
Your only tip is that you should take VOC and survivalist
wild vortex
Very in character I suppose
wild vortex
Your only tip is that you should take VOC and survivalist
Alrighty
junior needle
They are your best friends
junior needle
As long as you take them, you will be considered at least somewhat useful to have in the team regardless of performance. Also take overshield and spam VOC for a constant stupidity buffer for your whole team
timid otter
Closest thing so far
timid otter
Hello, is there a good resource for someone new to Vet but progressed to Damnati...
What is it that you actually want to know?
wild vortex
Just want to understand what makes the talents and their combinations tick, and the right ways to play the class
timid otter
Ah yes thats a question that cant be answered with a discord message.
wild vortex
I guess I will try to look up some popular builds and read through their talent trees, figure out what they do
timid otter
I guess I will try to look up some popular builds and read through their talent ...
I dmed some info.
wanton dawn
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094038976
Pretty good resources
Finally a breakdown that just give info
wanton dawn
Just want to understand what makes the talents and their combinations tick, and ...
The problem is that very few vet agrees on that
There is even an "implicit rules" not to ask about youtubers guide here expecting a positive answer !
torpid mortar
you can do it if you want to, but it's just suboptimal to do so
I have all level 4 blessing for the knife unlocked...
except uncanny strike
In fact, I have NO level of uncanny strike
my luck is just the worst
timid otter
The problem is that very few vet agrees on that <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163...
Im pretty sure there are some to general themes to follow.
Ex most veteran builds will tend to invest most of their points at the bottom of the tree.
wanton dawn
Best talents close to the keystone ? Yah sure, it is a good point
Smoke being useless ? Indeed. Recon being crap ? There are some common agreement. But nitpicking is the name of the game
timid otter
Its likely to always be like that
wanton dawn
And not always polite disagreement
timid otter
Theres always some strange niche that isn’t being considered.
shadow dagger
t4 bloodletter worth buying from melk to rip?
wanton dawn
There are also ppl that talk shit despite being very... arguable
shadow dagger
chainsword
wanton dawn
I once got baited on my redditor title. That i put down cuz someone insulted me like that here based on a blessing disagreement
I still think shattering impact isnt good on plasma. Def not top 2
timid otter
The community simply doesnt appreciate XYZ niche blessing on a niche weapon.
What can i say?
wanton dawn
There is niche and there is math
timid otter
You reminded me actually that i will need to calculate that
timid otter
Likely the target will just die within a few seconds after.
junior needle
Plasma adm's look like this, that's why shattering won't be useful on it
wanton dawn
So my advice is too ignore teammate on that one cuz otherwise everything can be handwaved
junior needle
Also a propensity to kill things in 1/2 shots and shattering not applying on the hit that applies it
And killing things on the second shot anyway, typically
wanton dawn
Also a propensity to kill things in 1/2 shots and shattering not applying on the...
Anyway, i am still a redditor
faint beacon
Is it bad to say I never really enjoyed using the Plasma Gun?
timid otter
Terrible
junior needle
Anyway, i am still a redditor
upboated
faint beacon
like idk what the hell it is, something about it makes me not want to use it at all
timid otter
Is it bad to say I never really enjoyed using the Plasma Gun?
Beg for forgiveness infront of the emperor
wanton dawn
Is it bad to say I never really enjoyed using the Plasma Gun?
You play what you like as long as you dont police other ppl stuff
faint beacon
Fair, I tend to try to make stupid but works builds
junior needle
I don't like plasma either
terse idol
I've gotten over my plasma phase 😌
junior needle
You can tell people if their weapon is shit though
junior needle
(recons)
faint beacon
that and I've kinda massively clicked onto Headhunter rifles they're just fun being able to click on heads and watching some heretics tumble over
timid otter
I played it today because i was to lazy to switch from vet to any other class.
wanton dawn
Right now i enjoy agri brauto, columnus, bolter, bayonet
junior needle
Headhunters are regarded as pretty good (except the agri one, which no one seems to use ever)
wanton dawn
Most of which are exec stance
faint beacon
Something in me says to attempt making a bleed based build with like Flechette and Serrated Blade perk
junior needle
Flechette works with the kant special shells now
wanton dawn
Something in me says to attempt making a bleed based build with like Flechette a...
Dont use serrated blade. It only has niche interaction with some blessing going for it
It is really poor perf wise in practice
Which is sad
Flechette is fun though
wanton dawn
Flechette works with the kant special shells now
Limited pen though
faint beacon
I heard the Agri is... Useable its just kinda outshone by Vraks III and VII
Also thats depressing to hear
timid otter
It is really poor perf wise in practice
No truzz me it very good in performance
wanton dawn
I heard the Agri is... Useable its just kinda outshone by Vraks III and VII
On autogun ?
junior needle
Limited pen though
Infinite pen, seemingly. Tested it just yesterday
Bleed applies to all the targets
slender turtle
Flechette works with the kant special shells now
If we're able to load more than 1 special round at a time, I'd say it make it worth using
junior needle
Pretty sure it didn't before
wanton dawn
Infinite pen, seemingly. Tested it just yesterday
I tested it against 150 crushers so maybe carapace blocks
faint beacon
3 Round burst and Semi Auto are just kinda slightly better than the 2 round from what I've seen but I don't doubt it has its upsides
junior needle
Very possibly. I lined up a bunch of shotgunners
junior needle
3 Round burst and Semi Auto are just kinda slightly better than the 2 round from...
They're considered much better, generally
Agri HH is truly an enigma
wanton dawn
No truzz me it very good in performance
What melee weapon hit a enemies so much bleed stack start mattering ?
timid otter
Uhh
faint beacon
Flechette works with the kant special shells now
The exact reason why it has this name
timid otter
My knife from when i was a level 2 veteran
faint beacon
Yeah its not the BEST but its really hilarious seeing a shit-ton of procs go crazy on one very unlucky special
timid otter
It benefits alot from serrated blades.
wanton dawn
It benefits alot from serrated blades.
Sure. Cuz of a blessing interacting with bleed
Mercy killing i think ?
faint beacon
Yeah I'd figure that's the only way to make Serrated work, run crit with like Flesh tearer and Mercy Killer, that or just Uncanny cause its overtuned beyond hell and back atm on Knives
junior needle
Vet isn't as good for a flesh tearer setup
wanton dawn
Also fun interaction with thunderous
faint beacon
Wait thunderous is on knives
junior needle
It's not
faint beacon
or just Melee in general
wanton dawn
No, axe
faint beacon
(I literally don't pay attention to my blessings half of the time)