veteran-class

[untold mulch]

100%

HB is the only lasgun that has real love behind

[bitter turtle]

Hb is carried by bayonet

[gusty bison]

Lets not buff the HB again pls

[wary galleon]

only mk 1 -2 though

[untold mulch]

Ilas has been power creeped

and Recon has been memed

[gusty bison]

HB 3 is a fine gun

Its just not also a crazy melee weapon

At the same time

[untold mulch]

God, thinking of the Recon I get actually mad

It can't be that hard to fix

or at least a patchwork

[wary galleon]

cant wait for the reddit post saying hellbore sucks because it cant 1 shot a demon host and bayonet swing an entire horde in 1 hit

[gusty bison]

Lmao

[wary galleon]

therefor the entire game is shit and everyone should feel bad

[gusty bison]

Obligatory slow switch speed comment

[bitter turtle]

Here's how u fix it

Give it a bayonet

Now you can just stab maniacs

Watch the monkey paw curl and it gets hb3 bayonet

[iron marten]

[untold mulch]

Recon should have the underbarrel GL

[wary galleon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1198732550357659860/Poxburster.gif

[untold mulch]

Is lore

I am only saying

[wary galleon]

👀

👅

[untold mulch]

A single shot krak

[wary galleon]

needs more dakka

[untold mulch]

or could use your blitz?

like yo udon't need to change to blitz

just quickshoot it

Would be nice

give it a bit more ammo for las, and a impact fuse on your nade

[bitter turtle]

Also unironically I would say the bad bayonet hurts hb3 a lot

The kind of gun it is wants you to melee chaff a lot

The other two get away with it by being the melee weapon

[hoary stratus]

if they didn't take 10 seconds to equip the bayonet wouldn't even be needed

[bitter turtle]

It's hard to say hb3 is worth when the only significant improvement over the mk1 is killing crusher

[wary galleon]

thats where the shovel comes into play

[bitter turtle]

Like to me the question comes down to, mk1/2 swaps to their melee for crushers.

Mk3 swaps for hordes

[slow spade]

Bro forgot about talents

[bitter turtle]

What sounds more annoying and bad lol

[wary galleon]

bro never mentioned talens

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1194654138420703252/zealot_maximumsploinky.gif?ex=65b1235e&is=659eae5e&hm=036c182120fa0ae577018f982168f7c4266586ac20b5cd5974f93cc6566d435e&

[slow spade]

The question was aimed for the full autos it seems

[bitter turtle]

Iag also have high finesse no?

[gusty bison]

Well IAGs are also headshot gund

Ye

[slow spade]

And I never mentioned you either but you butted in lol

[gusty bison]

Its the brautos that arent but they also dont want crits

[bitter turtle]

Not that you need to headshot if you want to be a mong but it's much better to do it

[wary galleon]

sorry i did not know this was your private discord channel.

[slow spade]

I mean the Deadshot talent is free damage

[slow spade]

K

[silk mauve]

Sorry for the lines to texts but this comes from the Lexicum and i quote "Many auxiliary grenade launchers have their own internal magazine allowing them to carry multiple grenades, however they are always preloaded with a single type of grenade. This is most often krak grenades, providing extra short-range firepower and vehicle-busting capacity, but they also accept frag grenades and other common varieties.[1] Other launchers are single-shot only, and while able to fire a variety of grenade types their added weight and cumbersome nature means most users rarely bother to reload once expended.[2]" end quote ,in theory you could load a under slug launcher with vortex, plasma or even some other forgotten sct.

[gusty bison]

So is hitting them in the head

You can (and should) critstack lasguns anywa

[slow spade]

Suppression immunity and Weakspot damage talents are bad so might as well build crit

[bitter turtle]

U don't take deadshot on ilas?

[gusty bison]

Weakspot is amazing on IAG though

[slow spade]

Who wouldn't lol

[bitter turtle]

Also weakspot is still best choice unless you don't melee

[gusty bison]

Weakspot damage is +20% dps on headshots for IAGs

[bitter turtle]

I would never drop weakspot on any build ngl

Unless it's just that I don't go left at all

And probably made up for lost melee dmg with other shit

[slow spade]

Its more that why wouldn't you pick up Deadshot on a las or autogun build

[bitter turtle]

Like 10 percent melee node

[gusty bison]

Pick up both

[slow spade]

I typically only get one node from that side

[bitter turtle]

I don't take deadshot on v3 or most iag tbh

[terse idol]

Uhh, because I aimdown alot for exe and mf, so I need the stamina 🥹

[gusty bison]

Precision is amazing for IAG

[bitter turtle]

I'm already stretched thin for points

[terse idol]

Also, what is deadshot giving me

[slate hawk]

Having a difficult decision on which shovel is better because of the low first target on my new one, thoughts?

[bitter turtle]

Can't afford Stam nodes

[wary galleon]

my man you gotta think what guns suit the build you want to play.
you want some build that does X find the gun that fits it.
you want to play a gun, make a build that fits it.

[slow spade]

+3 stamina curios and Focus Target/Duck talent 💪

[terse idol]

[slow spade]

Yeah hence why I go deadshot lol

[terse idol]

Eh, I'm not thrilled on it

[slow spade]

Because what gun wouldn't go deadshot except plasma lol

[gusty bison]

Braced auto

Shredder

[slow spade]

Na braced auto still gets deadshot benefit

[wary galleon]

oh man, that second one is fire. but if you are going to use it alot, then maybe first

[terse idol]

I mean, I wouldn't
You already got crit cooking with Headhunter 😌
I just think I don't need the extra damage Deadshot's giving

[slow spade]

At least it drains my stamina

[gusty bison]

25% crit on braced auto is...

[bitter turtle]

Where to pick up Stam node

[gusty bison]

Uhh

[slow spade]

I wouldn't doubt if Fatshark made it so Braced auto gets no crit from deadshot or something lol

[wary galleon]

taking it on braced autoguns is a handicap

for example

its a trap

[slow spade]

Lol

[gusty bison]

You do realize crits on brauto do almost no extra damage?

[wary galleon]

i used to have it, but ive taken it off my build

[slow spade]

Compared to weakspot hits?

[wary galleon]

good luck, now its your turn

[slow spade]

Yeah I'll take deadshot

[bitter turtle]

Weakspot is major for melee

[slow spade]

I use powersword

[gusty bison]

...

[slate hawk]

I really like the mk3 shovel and now I finally got access to #4 thrust

[gusty bison]

You take NEITHER on brauto

[slow spade]

Cringe

[bitter turtle]

U still need it for certain one taps

[wary galleon]

oh yea that thrust is absolute absurd!

[bitter turtle]

Like mutant

[gusty bison]

Cos both are extremely bad

For brauto

[bitter turtle]

Or bulwark

[slow spade]

Na it 1-shots both for me

[wary galleon]

on the mk3 shovel when you find out how much dmg that special does its insane

[slow spade]

Only thing I notice is that I take 3 hits to kill a mauler

Compared to 2 otherwise

Though that's my weapon specialist build

[wary galleon]

im pretty sure this guy just wants to argue for the sake of it

like a true redditor

[terse idol]

Arguing is okay

Man come on

[sonic marlin]

lets argue about boltgun

[gusty bison]

Bolter best gun nothing to argue about there

:P

[sonic marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-liar-star-wars-lying-gif-8634649

[wary galleon]

is see what you did there

[gusty bison]

But yea like

Brauto builds frankly just abandon all ranged output talents in exchange for surv and melee talents

Cos basically nothing in vet tree meaningfully buffs brauto outside of exec stance

[slow spade]

Lol you're the one that entered the convo going "uh actually you should just shoot"

[slow spade]

I hard disagree as I find the damage buffs from Rending talent + Focus target + Deadshot help bring down targets much quicker

Obligatory Ogryn and Elite talents though I'm not sure if those buff melee as well

[gusty bison]

Uh

You realize deadshot... is like

A 2.5% damage increase?

At best?

Its focus target carrying the work

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/5c348e0d267ae0e2f11aaf88319f6244.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/b67950110e62125d48c167c3273ec38d.jpg

[slow spade]

Look clearly we're not going agree on the deadshot

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/3b27460105d533c9c97a0436099c1d27.jpg

[gusty bison]

Im just crunching the math here

[bitter turtle]

u literally cant

[wary galleon]

public forum.
dosent understand weapon group
instantly aggresive instead of showing why
😂

[bitter turtle]

even with a perfect psword

need to take weakspot or 10% melee

[slow spade]

? I do just fine on mine

[gusty bison]

Brauto has an atrociously poor finesse mult of 1.15x

[bitter turtle]

if u take 10% melee then u shouldn't go left side at all

[wary galleon]

oh what is that mod for bottom pic?

[slow spade]

Oh I see

I have the Focus Target ping

[bitter turtle]

loadout mod

is a godsend

[slow spade]

Loadout mod

[wary galleon]

neat, gotta check that out

[slow spade]

Its on the modding discord

[wary galleon]

on nexus too it seems

[slow spade]

Nice

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/b89394c03a3f7f8aea4c2d8a4e32ca83.jpg

bulwark btw

[slow spade]

Iirc it works with the psykarium spawn mod too

[slow spade]

Use focus target

You'll get the breakpoints with that

[terse idol]

Urgh

[slow spade]

Part of why I don't use Weapon Specialists

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/2d5708d9dd87df7489da393ce47cd5a7.jpg

[terse idol]

I hate breakpoints with added work

[bitter turtle]

u also lose carapace 2 shot

[terse idol]

[bitter turtle]

now if ur already going left

what is better

[slow spade]

Its just pinging though?

[terse idol]

Yes

[bitter turtle]

locked into middle keystone and pinging everything

[wary galleon]

damn PS still broken it seems

never used it though

[bitter turtle]

or just fucking taking weakpoint dmg lol

[terse idol]

If i can get away without any added work on the BP that's a plus

[slow spade]

Yeah idk why they did it THIS strong

[gusty bison]

Not having wep spec is a notable difference

Wep spec is very good.

[bitter turtle]

wep spec on psword is broken as fuck

[terse idol]

Pretty swell

[gusty bison]

Focus target is good too

[bitter turtle]

negates psword's only weakness

[gusty bison]

But like

[terse idol]

Makes mutant hordes very easy

[bitter turtle]

im js

[slow spade]

Or I can take the team buffing talent and get the breakpoint without having to waste a talent?

[wary galleon]

now i wonder how it fares compared to the broken shovel

[bitter turtle]

you're wasting your entire keystone more like

also team dmg buff is eh

ngl

[terse idol]

It doesnt 🥹

[slow spade]

"Wasting"

Lol

[bitter turtle]

ppl dont build around other people's damage buff for bps

[terse idol]

Ps6 has a 2 shot that's pretty fast on crushers

It instant clears mutants in 1 swing

[icy rampart]

I'm really liking the CIAG

I just like irons

[bitter turtle]

nobody goes

[slow spade]

And that means I should just ignore a potential 12% buff team wide???

[bitter turtle]

"ok im missing this bp but if my FOCUS TARGET VET gives me 10% damage i get the 1 shot!"

[wary galleon]

ill focus that one, when i get enough plasteel to farm a new god tier weapon :p

[bitter turtle]

well, if ppl are using something like revolver

it actually is worthless

they 2 or 1 shot regardless

cause like

[slow spade]

You can't be serious lol

[bitter turtle]

if u do 2k per shot on a crusher

[terse idol]

You dont really need a god psword at least that's the way I see it

[bitter turtle]

it takes 2 bullets either way

[terse idol]

Just need pc4

[bitter turtle]

if u do 2k or 2.2k

[slow spade]

Yeah for revolver

[bitter turtle]

for any semi auto this applies

[wary galleon]

tru. but at this point thers nothing else to really try to strive for

[bitter turtle]

idc if people damage buff me on v7

it doesnt do anything

[wary galleon]

cept that 1 mill kill penance

[bitter turtle]

for autos it helps i will admit

but that's like

half the guns already out

for the usefulness of a dmg buff

[gusty bison]

Like focus target is a good talent.

But so is wep spec

[bitter turtle]

focus target is a good talent for yourself

and for monstros, bc their hp bar is fat enough that bps no longer are really a question for any gun

[gusty bison]

And for psword wep spec is AMAZING

[bitter turtle]

i just treat it as a 5-10% dmg boost for all bps

and a stamina/toughness regain source

[terse idol]

Well no yeah, I mean, this is a problem I have with the game and things like focus target without the 8 stacks
Or 5% on fire team
Nobody builds like "oh I have a crusher BP if a vet pings this target" or "I have this BP if someone runs fireteam"

[bitter turtle]

yeah

[terse idol]

Everybody builds for themselves

[bitter turtle]

even if you run a premade IN THEORY

and build around fire team

its like

what if u drop out of coherency lul

suddenly you lose your bp?

its just a nonsensical thing to consider

[wary galleon]

with my gun builds i dont pick focus target. i just spam frak and regenerate over time. works

[bitter turtle]

i only consider fire team as a 5% melee/ranged dmg boost node for myself in terms of usefulness

which its nice enough as that

well, nice enough if surv didnt exist to btfo the other two auras out of the water

[wary galleon]

scavenger on maelstrom is bonkers

[bitter turtle]

needs to be deleted and made a passive on vet tbh

no other aura

on any class

[wary galleon]

especially with high intensity specials/elites

[bitter turtle]

is as good as surv

so ofc fire team and close and kill dont compete

[wary galleon]

kinda yea

[bitter turtle]

honestly

fire team and close and kill are better than the avg aura

have you seen "5% elite dmg" or "extra dmg vs suppressed enemies" on o ther trees lmao

[wary galleon]

man when i play those games with mutant/dog spam. i know im never running out of ammo lol

[terse idol]

Really? I thought most auras were actually pretty good

Oh right thoose auras

[bitter turtle]

or LONER

lul

[wary galleon]

hahah not from the top of my head but i agree its not the focus point for many

[bitter turtle]

hell

even the good auras like 10% melee heavies on ogryn

is like

its questionable

if its better or worse than fire team

depends on your loadout

[wary galleon]

ogryn is like the neglected middle child

not getting any presents

no guns

no melee

[terse idol]

He got a shovel 🥹

[wary galleon]

just the used broom from the shed

ah yea we got this old snow shovel

here ye go buddy

your lil brother vet gets 15 presents this year

[terse idol]

TO BE FAIR,

We got like

2 new variants

[wary galleon]

sorely needed 😭

[terse idol]

The new shovel, and the Revolver

[wary galleon]

new shovel are top tier!

new revovler? dosent suit me much, but thats just my playstyle

[terse idol]

I'll have to play it more to see how I feel, I aint yet impressed

[bitter turtle]

i like the new shovels

but man

you sure feel how broken psword is

when you play them

they're both jack of all trades weapons but ps6 is more like master of all trades lul

[terse idol]

Well yeahh... well master of all trades but mobility

The dodges be laacking

[bitter turtle]

yeah true

that's why wep specialist psword is disgusting

lol

[wary galleon]

i use it exclusively now. its way too good

[bitter turtle]

im a scrub

[wary galleon]

the special attack with the right blessing makes it a bonkers powerhouse

[bitter turtle]

i still rely on my rashad

😔

[wary galleon]

if it suits your inflatable boat

[gusty bison]

Knife shredder memes

:P

[tiny summit]

And to think people cried when their charge attack count got nerfed

[bitter turtle]

man

you know

its funny

i thought patch 13 psword was perfectly fine

lul

the time ppl were all over chainsword

i was running psword still

oh well

now its boring

[wary galleon]

hope we get 2h chain axes or just 2h axes at some point

hell 2 sword too plox

MOSTLY A LMG/HOTSHOT

😭 📿 🙏

[gusty bison]

I mean

Brauto is a LMG

[wary galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/tachanka-king-lmg-kill-gun-gif-15890718

[icy rampart]

is there any way to regen stamina as a veteran from kills?

deadshot got me down bad

[hollow ibex]

There’s that stamina recovery on dodge on the right hand tree

[tiny summit]

Focus Target node

[dense saffron]

Trying the Plasma gun for the first time. Does it regularly not register shots and feel extremely laggy to use (in addition to the delay on primary fire), or is my internet being really shit tonight?

[forest blaze]

It's a current bug

[dense saffron]

Fair enough.

[wanton dawn]

There is an animation bug but that is all

[dense saffron]

I was getting no animation, no plasma trail and no sound every few shots on the primary fire

[inland orchid]

Ya is visual but ur shots are still landing

Ur still doin damage, had it happen to me during the twin boss fight

[dense saffron]

Good that it's not my internet... Bad that it's a bug with the gun. lol

[inland orchid]

Saw his shield go down while my plasma was shootin ghost shots

Also good that is only visual

[dense saffron]

in other news. Saw Blaze Away is meant to be a good blessing, yet it doesn't seem to stack for me. But maybe I'm doing something wrong. Continuous fire seems kinda unnecessary with it anyway 😄

just done 2 rounds with it, quite the change of pace from running around with a braced autogun

[slow spade]

Blaze Away stacks

Is the buff icon not appearing for you?

It disappears after like 0.2 seconds of not firing though

[dense saffron]

I get it on the first shot, but it only seems to count beyond that if I'm doing repeat charged shots. And I'm at full heat after 3 shots, so it seems a bit of a waste to me

[slow spade]

So you got to be mag dumping to keep stacks up

Never do charged shots

The ONLY time its remotely worth doing charged shots is if you need to kill an enemy behind thick wall

[dense saffron]

oh really? Even or things like Crushers and Bullwarks?

[slow spade]

Yes

[wanton dawn]

Even then its arguable

[slow spade]

Indeed

But the bomber camping behind a wall MUST die

On principal

[wanton dawn]

Still not sure which wall it help traversing, if they exist all

[slow spade]

Thick concrete walls in my experience

[wanton dawn]

In my testing there is no difference

[dense saffron]

ok, mashing primary fire is building blaze away

charge shot killing a crusher in one shot is so satisfying though..

[slow spade]

It needs to be pretty thick to notice hence why I said "remotely close"

[wanton dawn]

They might exist but havent found a reproducible usecase

[slow spade]

99.5% of times normal wall pen is enough

[slow spade]

Yeah normally its stuff like dumbass teammate gets dogpounced on the 2nd floor

[wanton dawn]

Tbf i never charge for other reason than the lulz

[slow spade]

Same, I've only charged like 2 in the last week

Only to stop crushers doing overhead and I wasn't sure if a non-charged staggers them out

Went with safe rather than sorry

[dense saffron]

I'll play about some more. Feels like sniping Ogryn enemies with a charged shot would be worthwhile, but I can certainly see how just using primary fire is better if surrounded

ah yeh, primary fire way better against a monstrosity

[slow spade]

Against ogryns go for a headshot

Bulwark should be 2-hit kill: 1 to stagger shield, 1 to hit head and kill

[gusty bison]

Bulwark u can just bang through the shield

[slow spade]

Its a 3 hit for me 😔

[dense saffron]

2 hit with focussed target, 3 without it seems. Noticing now how much less heat generation there is when not charging

[slow spade]

I wonder if its worth dropping maniac damage (lose the 1-tap on flamers) for Unyielding

[slow spade]

Charged also uses 9 ammo per shot

Instead of 3

Also consider getting the +25% ammo and Survivalist talents if you haven't already

[outer wolf]

Is 68% penetration on Zarona's too low to be worth?

[slow spade]

It massively boosts your ammo efficiency (2 kills per shot refund instead of 3)

[slow spade]

Zarona is the aim down sights revolver right?

[outer wolf]

Yeah. The "sniper" one

[slow spade]

Ah sadly not too familiar with the stat scaling for pen :c

Should be tolerable with Handcannon but idk how strict it is

[dense saffron]

using survivalist already, but not the 25% ammo, not got the talent points for that without changing up my build. Seemed to be ok for ammo in the 2 games I just played despite charging often, so will keep like this and change around if I use this gun more

[hoary stratus]

not likely to be a problem unless you want to use it to kill maulers and crushers

[dense saffron]

thanks for the Plasma tips all. Will try it some more later!

[raw steppe]

i wouldn't bother tbh with low dmg/pen roll

[outer wolf]

Yeah. Got rid of it. Also got bricked with the 2 first perks

[slow spade]

Just one more, when reloading you can skip SOME of the reload by sprinting for a sec

Cuts down on the 9.5 sec reload so you don't need reload talents as much

[dense saffron]

lol

nice. Thanks

[slow spade]

Oops only skips part of it

Not a full skip lol sorry

[dense saffron]

yeah I guessed it was just a case of speeding it up, not skipping the whole thing 😄

think Fatshark might have fixed that if it was the case

[gusty bison]

Simply run weapon spec

Never need to reload

[slow spade]

The true meta

[outer wolf]

krak or shredder guys?

[gusty bison]

Krak if u need something to gib bulwarks.

Shredder for more versatile anti everything

Shredder also has better routing

[outer wolf]

For a shovel/zarona marking build?

[coarse wind]

Anyone else run the infinite ammo lasgun vet build?

[gusty bison]

Up to you

[gusty bison]

I mean. Almost everything is inf ammo on vet

XD

[outer wolf]

Will go shredder for a more all-round nade

[coarse wind]

It's so hard to level up my other classes when I get off vet.
I am in pain each time there's not a good veteran in our strike team q.q

[tiny summit]

Ogryn was my smoothest lvling experience

[gusty bison]

Gotta get stuck innnnn

[coarse wind]

Ogryn is pretty good. I'm trying to level up zealot and it's mostly my strike team getting dying to too many long ranged shooters while trying to deal with all the bulwarks and reapers.

[gusty bison]

I recommend the laspistol for zealot if u need anti shooter duty

[sharp epoch]

ogryns broken

[ebon palm]

What are those..

https://tenor.com/view/whatarethose-shoes-gif-4488681

900 aquailas

christ

[junior needle]

Auric pugs shooting into melee chafe beg to differ

[hollow ibex]

Tbf you can do that while still only using a reasonable amount of ammo

Though that’s not what pubbies are usually doing

[junior needle]

There’s shooting into melee chaffe to kill dangerous enemies in a mixed horde

And then there’s shooting to avoid using your melee weapon

The latter is a bad habit

[tiny summit]

I do dislike people basically having an aneurysm over someone shooting a poxwalker

[hollow ibex]

It’s a shame that once I equip a recon lasgun my melee weapon seems to disappear

[junior needle]

My experience is that the people having an aneurysm are those being politely asked to not waste all the ammo and make everyone else run red for the entire game

Bruh ran out of ammo in the first room and dropped an ammo crate for himself before a dropdown

[candid vapor]

See, I have no reason to use my shovel on my helbore build, because my helbore IS my melee weapon

[hollow ibex]

This is why I’m ahead of the game and don’t even bother being polite

[junior needle]

When the Emperor allows you to live another day, you must make it everyone elses problem

[candid vapor]

Legitimately the bayonet is safer to fight ragers and maulers with than most melee weapons

[hollow ibex]

Yes they’ll suffer my existence until I die

[hollow ibex]

Also run knife and pick up all the ammo before they get to it

[coarse wind]

My first build was a helbore build. Loved every minute of it. It was so satisfying to counter snipe snipers from across the map while dressed as a kreig.

[keen sedge]

out of all the shovels, which should i use

[gusty bison]

All of them are solid

Mk 3 is more single target

Munitorum issue is more CC based

And Mk 7 is more crowd clear

All in all though, all 3 are good

[crude fiber]

havent given mk3 a good try yet, mk7 and standard issue are both great

[tiny summit]

Don't forget the smokes

[hollow ibex]

Look I’m just planning to be an ass for people who hoover up all the ammo, not an ass to the entire team

[tiny summit]

Be the vent purge

[gentle maple]

Apart from Power cycler 4 on a Powersword, what's the best melee weapon for horde clearing for vet?

[raw steppe]

there's a lot of choices

[gentle maple]

Chainsword is more in line with my guy's general esthetic, but it was pretty underwhelming for hordes

[raw steppe]

claw, caxe all work well

[sonic marlin]

fuck im good

[last plaza]

Hey gamers. How does on eutilize a plasma gun?

[junior needle]

A properly built rashad is way above the rest in terms of chaffe clearing (also has the benefit of easy hard target cracking)

[hollow ibex]

Press lmb

Repeatedly

Done

[junior needle]

Antax can do similarly but is harder to reach bruiser breakpoints with and doesn't swing quite as fast

[slow spade]

Top kills, top damage, but most importantly TOP BARRELS EXPLODED

Total Imperial victory UwU

[ebon palm]

https://tenor.com/view/chucky-homestuck-middle-finger-fuck-you-scary-gif-3424110

[slow spade]

Brb waiting till allies are near a ledge

[slow spade]

Use plasma to kill all elites and specialists, mag dump only on bosses. When it comes to shooter hordes, either learn to close the gap for melee or use plasma (like 1-2 shots) to suppress enough get close

[last plaza]

Hmm ok

[slow spade]

That's roughly how to use plasma with the main thing is you need Survivalist or you're not going to be a happy Vet

[last plaza]

Ok

I have that on my build

thanks!

[slow spade]

Plasma also has hitscan, Wallpen, and like 100 cleave

Use the wallpen to kill bursters behind doors, save teammates in other rooms/floors, or accidentally dome a daemonhost trying to kill a trapper

[crude fiber]

most weapons are hit scan no?

[slow spade]

I think so

I've been playing other games and I forgot Darktide is like 90% hitscan weapons

[tall torrent]

Only Ogryn’s grenade launcher stuff, Psyker’s staff projectiles and zealot throwing knives aren’t hitscan iirc

[slow spade]

Honestly very comfy

[junior needle]

Zealot knives should be hitscan

[tiny summit]

Are they actually hitscan or just high speed

[slow spade]

Actually hitscan

[tall torrent]

Zealot knives have arc & drop

[crude fiber]

there is travel time. i know from counter snipeing snipers with them lol

[slow spade]

Oh you meant the knives

[junior needle]

Too high risk for the reward compared to other options

[slow spade]

Knives are fun

[tiny summit]

But I'm a gamer

[slow spade]

Fire grenades are my favorite though

[tiny summit]

Nah more weapons should be projectile based

[slow spade]

Projectile based for the sniper pls

I want them to get the voidstrike treatment UwU

[tiny summit]

Tortoise ass sniper bullet

[tall torrent]

Snipers use long-las tho?

[slow spade]

Only pain for the sniper

[slow spade]

Yeah

Give them the slow-las kk thx

[junior needle]

Lasguns are now projectile based, and the lasers now go flaccid over distance

[slow spade]

To compensate, all lasguns get assail tracking

[junior needle]

Except for recons

[slow spade]

Just see a MG La do 180s to headshot bulwarks

[slow spade]

As the Emperor willed

[bitter turtle]

I'm pretty sure they have a travel time

I know they arc at least

Beyond 20m you have to compensate for the hard drop off

[junior needle]

They do, that's why I said they should be hitscan

[bitter turtle]

Oh

Mb lol

[tiny summit]

Hitscan frag bomb

Hitscan rocks

[slow spade]

Lol just point and click for free jdam strike

[bitter turtle]

I like the knife more than the nades tbh

playing vet so much makes me hesitant to use nades when I don't get them for free

[junior needle]

I basically just chuck them at muties and ragers

So I don't use revolver ammo on them

I guess gunner headshots too on occasion

[bitter turtle]

Also nothing makes u feel more mlg than chucking a knife sniping a trapper or dog running at your teammate accounting perfectly for their travel time

Now you might ask why not just shoot them but that is because guns are for cowards

[ebon palm]

Compensations have been made by the devs.

[tall torrent]

Knife is either u miss 4 throws in a row and hate ur life, or hit 6 headshot 1 taps in a row and feel like a god

[ebon palm]

Zealots run knives, vets got 3 talent's spent of their own?

[tall torrent]

Wdym

[ebon palm]

Christ

Vet's running knives main weapon?

You even flick to a 2nd hand, as a vet?

[tall torrent]

Talking zealot’s throwing knives here

[ebon palm]

I main zealot, knife.

https://tenor.com/view/knife-anime-trick-gif-6163729

[ebon palm]

Wrong chat?

[umbral scaffold]

btw does the bayonet on the hellbore trigger WS effect? (didn't try it yet)

[tall torrent]

Unfortunately, no

[pale spear]

how usefull is onslaught on heavy infantry autogun?

is it a must have?

[umbral garnet]

Heavy IA?

[wanton dawn]

No

[gentle maple]

Which one would you pick with my zarona revolver? For horde clear and when shit hits the fan.

[junior needle]

It’s advisable to specify which one is the heavy, most people know numbers and the forge world.

[rare prawn]

sup guys, for columnus autogun, which blessings should I keep an eye out for ?

[wanton dawn]

Dumdum, fire frenzy/deathspitter

[junior needle]

Dumdum primarily, ff/ds, stripped is also an option if you want totally foolproof sprint dodging

[rare prawn]

got it, are screenshots locked only to some users ?

[wanton dawn]

You need to be red

[junior needle]

If you stay in the server for like a day you’ll be able to post images

[pale spear]

the green one

agripina?

[rare prawn]

cool, I got tier 4 Deathspitter columnus in the special shop, I think it's worth to it to just bag the blessing

[junior needle]

The falloff values for the agri iag look like this, so you'll only really benefit on carapace and flak (rending works at full value up to 100%, after that it turns into bonus damage at 1/4 the value).

It's also the slower firing, hiring damage model so repeated hit effects are less useful by nature.

[junior needle]

Depends on how disposable you consider your melkbux. DS is alright but hardly a big deal if you have t2 or t4.

DS also stack to 5, despite the description. Works just like ff mechanically.

[rare prawn]

ah so you can get it up to 6.5% x 5 ?

[junior needle]

yes

[rare prawn]

crazy, I thought it just mainted 6.5 with kills

[junior needle]

Fatshark is quite bad about consistency and things doing what they say

As well as other things

[untold mulch]

Double checking tooltip/code is for suckers

[rare prawn]

true, it takes a lot to farm, but I rather just get the highest tier when I can then farm it again so I can get the Dum dum/fire frenzy when it pops up

then in the meantime wait for that 380 columnus with good stats, takes a while to get the "perfect" weapon in this game

[raw steppe]

380 doesnt matter for most weapons

For colum as an example, you want 76+ dmg, stopping and 70+ stability and 65+ ammo

Doesnt matter where the total ends up being, just the individual stats

[junior needle]

Mhm, the modifier rating is largely superfluous. The stat spread is what matters.

[untold mulch]

I htink the only thing that it "matters" is that it may give you better % of T4

[bitter turtle]

Bromentum

[junior needle]

Me who rolls t2 perks on on my t2/t3 blessings on my 360+ weapons

[bitter turtle]

Is it possible to roll t2?

I don't think I've ever

[untold mulch]

Wouldn0t be surprised

[finite imp]

tfw the HD2 devs have already done and said more in a week and the DT devs did during it's entire release

https://tenor.com/view/fatsa-buggs-bunny-pavlis-papadopavlos-gif-18032290

im tired boss

[terse idol]

Different devs different resources 🥹

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[junior needle]

On perks? Absolutely

Has happened to me a fair few times

[pale spear]

and what about the graia?

[junior needle]

Iirc the values are the same for the graia aig, only differs for the ciag

[pale spear]

good to know, that frees up some points

[junior needle]

Rending strikes is still a good pickup though

[untold mulch]

[slow spade]

Helldivers 2 is secretly sabotaging Darktide in order to be the top horde shooter UwU

[slow spade]

I did for my blue upgrade once

But never my orange one

[untold mulch]

Fr, they are evil

[terse idol]

I will say though, the whining in the helldivers 2 discord is amazing

😌

This is why gamers don't deserve rights

[untold mulch]

I am not in it, so speak I wish to know 🤣

[terse idol]

Just so much whining about how the devs released poorly and blah blah

You know how it is

[untold mulch]

Honestly

Ingame performance outside server stuff?

how it is?

Like if the only real terrible performance issue is the servers going PLEASE STOP ITS TOO MANY PEOPLE

I really can't fault the devs in any way

[sharp ember]

the only non-server issue i got is the mission completion screen takes too long

and occasionally getting stuck under a rock if you dive at it in a weird way

[untold mulch]

hmm

Most of what I am hearing, the game deserves the success

[terse idol]

Oh it's actually pretty good, wel optimized

[terse idol]

Also yeeahh

You cant skip the mission compelte screen so you gotta just sit there

[untold mulch]

Then, can't fault them

[terse idol]

[untold mulch]

is smooth af considering the average game released

[outer wolf]

Is it worth using 1 wound on veteran?

I'm currently going with 2 health and 1 wound

[untold mulch]

I go woundless, in general if I go down with PUGs, run is fucked

So I like the extra edge of stamina/toughness

[sharp ember]

1 wound is valid if you know you sometimes have accidents

[terse idol]

Yeah

[outer wolf]

I shouldn't have accidents, I mean, I don't usually have them but since the vet is not as tanky as my zealot, I carry one just in case, but I dunno if it's worth or not

[untold mulch]

Is not bad nor good IMO

[sharp ember]

most auric vets go without it because it’s often a domino-effect party wipe if someone goes down at a bad time

[untold mulch]

More than 1 is just dumb though

but a single one? is not a bad idea if you want to be prepared for getting Fatsharked

[outer wolf]

And between health/toughness?

• toughness regen
• stamina
• gunner rest

That's my base

[untold mulch]

Honestly, the health in curio for Vet? I wouldn't go with it, but maybe someone else does that too

[terse idol]

I did go with 2x toughness 1x health
And its alright, I think stacking toughness is better but it's not the worst

[outer wolf]

So between health curios or toughness is it better stacking hp or tough?

I see

[terse idol]

1 wound aint bad if you're not confident as folks said, and I would frankly recommend 1 wound for everyone (but I'm unhinged and I'm not scared)

[untold mulch]

In general if I am taking enough HP damage for a curio to matter

I am so gonna die anyways

[outer wolf]

Did 5 maelstroms tonight. Died only once because I'm stupid and fell off a bridge. Didn't get down tho

[terse idol]

Its for the little bit of chip damage that you can take, which can go a long way to keeping ya aliive

[untold mulch]

In my case is basically a

Either my toughness is full/nearfull

or empty

[outer wolf]

I'm not as comfortable yet tho, coming from zealot is quite different

[untold mulch]

no inbetween

[outer wolf]

I thought about 3 health curios, not sure if it's a little bit dumb

[untold mulch]

I probably would call it dumb

[outer wolf]

rofl

what about 3 toughness curios instead?

[untold mulch]

Not bad in my knowledge

I mostly run 2 toughness and 1 Stamina

I personally think 1-2 toughness is top pick for Vet

[midnight totem]

I think I just rolled the emperor's very own shovel

[outer wolf]

Ok, got it. Thanks for the help everyone

[untold mulch]

damn

[midnight totem]

thrust was originally hammerblow

I had a level 4 thrust, so rerolled that

Dunno if there's anything else I should change, maybe unyielding to manic

but there shall be much bonking

[native furnace]

Late to the party here, but part of what I consider is whether my build has things like Confirmed Kill in it. That really amplifies having more toughness curios, particularly if you also have Iron Will. Just have to watch out ofr getting your toughness dropped off by a bunch of trash and getting gibbed.

Fire not insta-breaking toughness anymore has definitely made it easier to justify 3x on certain builds.

[native furnace]

I'd probably go Unyielding to Flak if you don't consistently one-shot things like gunner trash mobs in melee range. That's usually an easier breakpoint to hit than less swings on a maniac pack.

[terse idol]

Its because iirc, vet has some of the highest base toughness in the game

We also have many talents that get back toughness

[midnight totem]

true, thanks Grey

[terse idol]

So the more toughness you get the more value you get

[midnight totem]

Hadn't had time to test it yet, but when I get home its goin' right on my shovelbot

[native furnace]

A LOT of toughness up-front, and then toughness over time, plus huge toughness damage reduction (enough to tank sniper shots).

[native furnace]

Yeah, it's usually about preference to a degree. I get really picky about which mobs I want dead faster, and gunners tend to top the list since if you have to disengage (or get thrown), you don't want them having the chance to keep shooting.

[outer wolf]

What about 2x toughness + 1x hp/wound?

[faint beacon]

I mean there's a few toughness tank builds floating around there, hell there's a perk that gives you 50% Damage reduction when your toughness is above 75% so you can actually eat crusher overheads lmao

[native furnace]

Wound sucks, don't do it. 1x HP is acceptable as a way to let yourself be a little sloppier in taking hits. Can defintiely help.

[native furnace]

The best part is, you can have that tankiness on builds that can one-shot a Crusher, too.

[faint beacon]

its especially nice if you're running that with like, lets see a laspistol right?

forget which blessing its called

but Crit Elite kills give you toughness

or well, more toughness

So its just a big feedback loop of getting more and more toughness

[midnight totem]

reassuring or something

[faint beacon]

I'll have to check its name im logging into Darktide right now

[midnight totem]

and I use gloryhunter on my pistol

[native furnace]

It's "Reassuringly Accurate," and it's critical hit kill. 😦

So if you don't kill with a crit, no dice.

[midnight totem]

I use it on my kantrael

so crits with it are usually kills

[faint beacon]

Thankfully its rather easy to get crit builds on the side as well

[tacit wren]

Wounds as a crutch early on but do not work well in higher difficulties, it relies on your teammates bringing you up which is not an ideal position to be in

[native furnace]

Yeah, I mean... wounds as a crutch early let you learn the game, but they also handicap you HARD since you're going to go down more easily and more frequently.

[faint beacon]

Need to get a better one with Stopping power, but is has the crit perks for the sole purpose of generating as much Toughness as possible

[tacit wren]

It is good to have at least 1 extra wound because sometimes those poxwalkers do be talking out your toughness fast or corrupting you like crazy

[native furnace]

You might've survived that hit with more health, but suddenly you're just down.

[tacit wren]

but playing with the default wounds makes you a better player quickly

[midnight totem]

I'm laughing at that goddamn flamethrower can on the laspistol

[native furnace]

Big ol' tank of laser juice.

[faint beacon]

Veteran Toughness Buff shout just denying actual damage from it as well never forget that

[outer wolf]

Thanks for the help. And what should I am for? Toughness regen? Gunner res is a must imo.

[faint beacon]

Evil las pistol

[midnight totem]

iron will is just one of the best

[native furnace]

Gunner res is a big deal, toughness regen can be helpful, raw +toughness and raw +health are both very nice for adding survivability. +Sniper may not be optimal, but it may also help avoid having your runs ended by a zap (basically anti-burst when you're pinned down).

[pliant sentinel]

Someone recommended an autogun to me

I can't remember who

[hollow ibex]

Sniper is pretty good imo

[faint beacon]

A lot of the Autoguns are pretty good, obviously just have to build them correctly for certain roles

[native furnace]

I wouldn't do more than two sniper res curious generally (because of diminishing return), but I've been known to run them. Particularly on high toughness builds.

[faint beacon]

That's at least imo

[terse idol]

Columnus infantry autogun

[faint beacon]

Columnus V is stupid if you're looking to just spit lead down range

it does so much damage with like, Fire Frezny and Deathspitter

[idle swallow]

agripnna braced for that authentic poorly trained insurgent feel

[faint beacon]

Agri Mk1 is a good over all neutral gun to have as well

[native furnace]

The finesse bonuses on the Columnus V Infantry Autogun are apparently overtuned as hell, too?

[faint beacon]

but make sure to get Onslaught as a perk

[faint beacon]

I wouldn't be surprised if that's so, cause I enjoy using the Agri Mk1 cause I kinda prefer a neutral/slower paced but over all good gun

[midnight totem]

I run sniper and gunner on most characters as a general rule

[faint beacon]

Wondering if the Graia MkIV is even worth my time, cause I kept getting them with like T4 blessings from random drops

[native furnace]

That's a really solid mitigation plan. +40/+40 helps (2x/2x since 3x each is usually overkill, even after diminishing return), then you end up with 5x other slots to fill with toughness, health, toughness regen, etc.

[midnight totem]

if burster actually worked, I might run one of those

but I run anti corruption in its stead

the rest is stamina regen, health, toughness, never toughness regen though

[native furnace]

I've tried running anti-corruption a few times, and was a little underwhelmed. Worked okay on Ogryn with 3x health curious since there's a lot of incoming chip. 😅

[torpid mortar]

is the Vraks MKIII useful?

[midnight totem]

I run two health curios and one 3 stamina, so

corruption is much better

[native furnace]

1x-2x toughness regen on vet brings down the start of your regen time if you're looking to start regen during block/dodge. Doesn't hurt at all.

[midnight totem]

Oh it does?

would def be worth looking into then

vraks 8? the headhunter autogun?

Its good, but I think it suffers from not enough reserve ammo

[torpid mortar]

Mk III

[midnight totem]

Oh, derp. getting dyslexic

The vraks 3 is my favorite headhunter

versatile enough to hipfire accurately

solid enough to bring down enemies with a triple burst to the head at range

[torpid mortar]

I think I snatched a decent one. But I hate burst fire

[midnight totem]

if you hate burstfire, then its not for you

I kinda want to remove hand cannon on my revolver

Use surgical/glory hunter instead

[tall torrent]

Become a gloryhunter plasma enjoyer then

[junior needle]

That would probably be most unwise for your breakpoints

[tiny summit]

The newish chainaxe has the most unsatisfying weapon feel to me

It can kill easily but my god to these lights feel like ass against a horde

[hollow ibex]

Waaat

I like it ngl

[tiny summit]

I really do not like how it feels. How it actually performs is just fine. I really dislike its sound

[hollow ibex]

Better than the old one getting stuck on walkers imo

[tacit wren]

I agree with you legate, there is some videos I seen on how to use the mk12 effectively, but it is VERY different from the mk4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUbHkdn5Ns8

@tiny summit

The rework on the mk4 makes it godly though

The latching on the light attack is sooooo clutch

The block attack also does horde clear

But the new one, its an adjustment, its a different playstyle. The shovels are like that too

[tiny summit]

I dont have a problem with its performance. It's pure sound and impact

[tacit wren]

you have to do a heavy attack to get the same latch effect

on the light attack? yeah I feel the same way

its a combo of the light attack feeling lackluster and the block just being 1 stab that has me struggle and get mobbed

It's a good attack if you have the right perks and do the heavy swing, but soooo many times I will cue up a heavy attack and someone else kills them

and after playing with the 4 and switching to the 12, I get my ass kicked because it requires a different playstyle entirely

so I think it needs a rework as well personally

being able to latch with light attack > heavy

I can catch mutants, etc

[tiny summit]

Yea to me it feels like a heavy nightstick and not a chainaxe

[hollow ibex]

Wait people like this?

[brave bear]

am I the only one who crashes every single damn time I alt+tab out of the game?

[hollow ibex]

I hate hitting a random walker

And having my weapon get stuck on it

[tacit wren]

I like it with Zealot

I do like it against heavier enemies yes, especially now that you can alt out of that, having to press alt fire each time to get a chain effect is tedious

I am not really using it too much with the Vet

[hollow ibex]

Alt fire? Are you on console?

[tacit wren]

yeah

have to press into the thumbstick

[hollow ibex]

Maybe that’s why I guess

Heavy attack is the same button for me as light attack on PC

Unless you’re talking about something else

[tacit wren]

I mean for "special"

[hollow ibex]

Oh

[tacit wren]

to rev the chain

[spring spindle]

So generally. What perks and such on skill tree am I looking to take with auto pistol

[hollow ibex]

Idk I’d still rather not have every light latch onto random trash enemies

[tacit wren]

It's a feature not a bug when playing it on a zealot because you are a lot faster

[hollow ibex]

I only want revving when I heavy personally

[hollow ibex]

Still feels awful in my book

[tacit wren]

and with pox and trash it can be annoying and you get mobbed but its kinda clutch against scabs

as long as you pay attention to how many are around you, like if there is a horde don't light attack

do block attack and then use the attack to sweep

[hollow ibex]

Yeah not doing that if I have the choice to just hold down a button to clear

[tacit wren]

I use the block and push a lot, but with mk12 you have to do it, its like all defensive

[agile yew]

So veteran can get Rashad up to one-shot brutal momentum territory for most enemies?

[tacit wren]

I know this is the veteran channel, but yeah the chainaxe is not ideal for veteran

you need more toughness and stuff, the zealot can overcome chipping and all that, you become a total maniac with the chainaxe

[junior needle]

It had pretty great hard target shredding when I tried it with headtaker/thunderous in the psyk, but the single target latching makes lights absolute dog for clear and that ruins the weapon for me

This was on my zealot though

[tall torrent]

Are u like, seriously trying to make autopistol work on veteran or just playing for fun

[junior needle]

If you could hit more than one target with the lights I'd run it

[spring spindle]

Kinda both. I have a nice roll on one

And just. It’s sitting there in my inventory

[tacit wren]

Thats what the 12 is for I guess

[junior needle]

I tried it out at the same time as the 4 and wasn't feeling it compared to my knife. Tac axe 4 with headtaker/shred felt better.

[serene hazel]

I'm hoping for some better weapon modification. Imagine a drum mag on some of the autoguns

[junior needle]

So the autopistol is currently in the dumpster, being a notable underperformer. Flak/maniac perks and the old optimal setup was pinning/blaze away. Probably still is. You at least want onslaught to make up for its poor flak modifier.

[junior needle]

Too immeasurably complex, also this isn't cod. No one ever crafts weapons in 40k, not even artificiers and tech priests.

[spring spindle]

If we’re talking modifications like that. Do NOT give the Ogryn an oversized drum mag

[junior needle]

Something something goes against the setting, something something BS to cover fatsharks failures

[serene hazel]

I'm not asking for a billion different mods; just some scopes, different mags, and maybe a laser sight. Small things.

[junior needle]

Only entitled gamer babies ask for simple things that are already in the game to be implemented.

The unreasonably immeasurable complexity would take the immense coding prowess of one modder doing unpaid labor in his free time.

That's a lot to ask of a small indie company of about 180~ employees.

[shadow dagger]

this does not look like a fun maelstrom by any stretch of the imagination

[serene hazel]

now if they wanted to go all-out and do mussel attachments, different barrels or ammo types; that'd be really fucking cool, but not at all required or expected for an enjoyable experience.

I love the game as it is; it'd just be really cool to modify my guns so i can turn my autogun into an LMG

cus as every good ork knows "YA ALWAYZ GOTTA HAVE MOR DAKKA"

[terse idol]

oh that one is actually pretty fun

😌

If..

You have enough damage to kill the mutants fast

[junior needle]

Best fatshark can give you is more goofy overpriced cosmetics with clipping issues. Also they cost 2900 for "extra effort"

[terse idol]

Eventually™️

[junior needle]

Also no earnable aquilas

[native furnace]

This sounds like you need to update your drivers... or fall back to an older version.

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-2-gif-10939514790351417724

meanwhile

purchased 4 pay store items without a single additional USD cost

[brave bear]

you play helldivers 2?

[gusty bison]

I have one build that works for it

But its a weird one

And feels more zealot than vet

[finite cobalt]

I bought helldivers just to have something to play while waiting for more darktide stuff. I have been absolutely addicted and have the premium battlepass and some cosmetics without spending anything extra. This is the sort of shit that makes me want to spend money just as a thank you for the devs. I cannot say the same for darktide. Bloody depressing.

[hard briar]

of course

[finite cobalt]

And darktides mtx are just getting worse and worse. So damn annoying.

[brave bear]

it fun? it good? it play?

[gusty bison]

HD2 is a solid gameplay loop

But like darktide the gameplay content can get repetitive if its not to your liking

Similar genre

[hard briar]

im dropping someones 2 minute clip when discord decides to let it thru

[brave bear]

are cosmetics options as limited as darktide if you're not willing to do mtx?

[gusty bison]

Well depends on how much of a life you have

No life? Sure you can get most things for free

But its a notable grind

[hard briar]

Not my gameplay

[junior needle]

"works" and "is good compared to other weapons" are two very different things

[gusty bison]

In its niche its good compared to other weapons

[hard briar]

the premium battlepass is 4 pages...
the free one is like 12

[gusty bison]

Namely getting behind elite packs and dropping all of them

Cos raking fire is actually quite notable

[finite cobalt]

The battlepasses are not timed. They stay forever. The free one and paid one has mtx currency in it. You can also get the premium currency for free for missions.

[brave bear]

looks fun

[brave bear]

good to know

though it looks like that team has horrible coherency lol

[junior needle]

That's not exactly a niche, you can stealth behind any pack of enemies with any gun and unload

[hard briar]

some elites are entirely resistant to small arms 🙂

[gusty bison]

Yea but shreddet actually does more dps than brauto at this

[hard briar]

some are imprevious to small arms.

[gusty bison]

And has a nicer wep spec/agile engagement

[junior needle]

At the cost of notably worse performance when not using stealth to run behind things

[gusty bison]

Run faster >:]

[hard briar]

the game is ultimately chaotic. not because it pumps the hp pool of every.
Theres just more enemies on screen and mixed armor types.

[junior needle]

Just use a ciag

[gusty bison]

Be the zealot

[junior needle]

It even has raking

[hard briar]

and 3rd person limits ur view

[finite cobalt]

When you get a team that clicks you feel such comradery. So many cinematic moments just naturally happen in that game as well.

[gusty bison]

Slower swap though

[junior needle]

Or the other iag's

[gusty bison]

Like we are talking full zealot brain here

[junior needle]

You're in stealth, you don't need FAST swap

[hard briar]

nah. theyre on like Extreme difficulty.

[gusty bison]

All the other times when u arent in stealth and going for the dive

You be glad for the fast swap

[junior needle]

Just use a plasma

[gusty bison]

Sorry cant hear you when im outrunning sound

[hard briar]

the game can be very brutal

[terse idol]

ah, I love the death murder chainsaw robots

😌

[gusty bison]

The solution i found to snipers and gunners for that build is literally sprinting at them xD

[brave bear]

ye that's the difficulty but they're not staying together

[gusty bison]

Its knife zealot, but actually able to kill shit

Get fucked zealots

[brave bear]

if I get it, will you play with me @hard briar

I've always wanted to play with a girl

I'm kidding, I'm kidding

[gusty bison]

Ah yes

The imperial guard approach

"Fire on my position"

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/rico-madagascar-madagascar-penguins-rico-madagascar-rico-penguins-gif-23609741

[brave bear]

what is this gif even

[hard briar]

i wish my clips recorded properly

[umbral granite]

Well then, Brunt finally gave me a better chainsword... now lets see how badly hadron bricks it.

[junior needle]

But my knife zealot is very good at killing things

And stealths a lot more

[umbral granite]

First consecration... not looking good

[naive aurora]

Watchu bois think, zarona revolver or plasma gun

[spring spindle]

Just had the best maelstrom I’ve ever lost with two other Ogryns

[brave bear]

you got an nvidia card?

[spring spindle]

We lost right at the end. But clutched altogether so many freaking times

[umbral granite]

Hmm... not terrible, but lets see what comes next

[hidden summit]

So why stealth knife vet? I’ve run into a couple lately and I guess I don’t get it.

[naive aurora]

You never actually lose if your play like badasses and not extract.

[umbral granite]

Eh... not looking good here

[naive aurora]

Theres talents that reduce the cd on the stealth for every crit u make

combat knife gives u 1500+ crits a game

its fucking fantastic

[umbral granite]

Welp... hadron has bricked it...

[spring spindle]

Nah. We had to try and destroy the vats in the Warren mission but we got swarmed. It was mostly just us three and a bot. But we were basically taking turns clutching the game until that point, even so that Ogryn lasted so long against the horde

[hard briar]

yes

[hidden summit]

That’s… not what I expected. What’s the build?

I’m down to try it

[hard briar]

I gotta find the setting that makes Nvidia record my audio

[naive aurora]

I can send some pics for my knife zealot buddy

[brave bear]

ye instant replay is great, or at least that's what I use

[hard briar]

@dark flower sounds like a schizo talking to himself otherwise.

[naive aurora]

Just prepare yourself for tendinitis

[brave bear]

alt+z is the overlay shortcut bind

[hidden summit]

Knife zealot or knife vet?

[naive aurora]

Knife zealot takes better advantage of knife

[brave bear]

only thing I have issue with is in some games my mic won't record @hard briar

[spring spindle]

Backed into a corner with a horde and a BoN and somehow surviving made me internally scream

[brave bear]

ok I got helldivers 2

now where do I buy friends

[naive aurora]

@hidden summit , ranged weapon varies A LOT

\

[hard briar]

yea maybe Helldivers is one of those games

[junior needle]

That talent isn’t on vet

It’s a zealot talent

[naive aurora]

Ye, he was askin specifically bout seeing knife stealth builds

and im pretty sure if u stealth on vet ur trollin

[junior needle]

The comment you replied to had him ask about stealth vet

So I was like “huh”

[naive aurora]

yes

[gusty bison]

Knife on vet actually does decent damage

Stealth itself doesnt do much for knife

Stealth is more for other stuff.

Stealth shredder raking for instance is actually ok. But you shouldnt be sticking in stealth for long each time. The less time you spend in stealth the better

Get into position ASAP, and let it rip

Its still a bit of a meme build

but it actually works ok

Its not throwing

[umbral granite]

Stealthing up to do an objective (like data interigators) while your team holds up in a safe spot would also be acceptable i think.

[terse idol]

[fast sundial]

what blessings do you people put on your lasguns

other than opening salvo

[terse idol]

Not opening Salvo for one

Head hunter and deadly accurate

[fast sundial]

really now

i was thinking opening salvo + no respite

[tall torrent]

Which lasgun

[umbral scaffold]

guess what cosmetics this guy is supposed to have

[fast sundial]

Ia

[fast sundial]

did i do it right

[tall torrent]

Headhunter + deadly accurate

[spare mountain]

lmao two IIs on a 370 base weapon in melk's shop on a level 30 char

[umbral scaffold]

yes perfect

[tall torrent]

Opening salvo is only really ok on MG12 for 1 tap breakpoints, and no respite isn’t that great due to infantry lasguns having low stagger

[umbral scaffold]

except he doesnt have the bullets on his shoulder

[umbral scaffold]

the torso* is supposed to be the one without any decorations or ribbon thingies

[midnight totem]

pfft, stagger them with shout

[umbral scaffold]

also LMAO i got killshot's pants on accident

[fast sundial]

better?

[umbral scaffold]

yes

im gonna try to make the pants more accurate

[fast sundial]

same actually, i got them off of someone else's shooty ult

[umbral scaffold]

not sure how to make the camo with clipping look good

[umbral scaffold]

literally my character except i cant afford the grey camo bandana helmet

and i dont have that helmet either

so im just helmetless :(

i do got a generic cadian green flak armor fit

[fierce spoke]

For the Guard!

[fast sundial]

personally a big fan of Hat Vet™

[umbral scaffold]

also this with the solid black purple tier pants

why no load???

there

i have the black pants as well

dont remember what called

[fierce spoke]

Dead-Eye's Duty Uniform. From the Penance, One In the Chamber

[umbral scaffold]

yes

yall wanna see my tabs guardsman

[fierce spoke]

Bring on the Darktide fashion

[agile forge]

Veteranomicon when.

[fierce spoke]

I'm SOL atm with not being able to upload pictures, so I can't show mine off

[umbral scaffold]

autogun guy

should i make a karskin

[hard briar]

lmao

[midnight totem]

You know

[fast sundial]

do we have any weapon specialist enjoyers here

[midnight totem]

I wouldn't mind a wh40k game with those graphics

[umbral scaffold]

the scar is an autogun

the m14 will be a lasgun

hotshot garand real?

[midnight totem]

I use weapon specialist

[hard briar]

i just realized you arent the femboy i thought you were

[umbral scaffold]

what?

[hard briar]

Cica has a doppleganger

[umbral scaffold]

its tabs

bozo

im gonna make a darktide zombie guy

[fast sundial]

does that mean there's multiple

[frail bolt]

any recommendations?

[fast sundial]

very nice

[hard briar]

femboys yes

theyre mainly in #zealot-class

[umbral scaffold]

what are darktide zombies called again

[frail bolt]

pox walkers

or poxers

[fast sundial]

or groaners

[frail bolt]

how do ppl build this? or do i scrap it for blessings?

[umbral scaffold]

rate poxwalker

[timid otter]

no

[hard briar]

needs more green skin but other than that, pretty gokd

[umbral scaffold]

ok

[crude fiber]

unarmoured/maniac

[umbral scaffold]

i will do that

im gonna make some battle screenshits

[frail bolt]

thx

[umbral scaffold]

revolver guy, autogun guy, lasgun guy, another autogun guy