veteran-class

[wanton dawn]

You want dumdum on CIAG period

[sonic marlin]

this is mine

[umbral scaffold]

I have 20flak and 4crit. Drop crit for maniac still?

[wanton dawn]

Look at the stat bar: dumdum is lying to you this patch when it says low distance

[umbral scaffold]

oh my

This is my refined product

[wanton dawn]

looks good

Actually realized that dumdum is not lying but damage would be short range only

Need to read like a lawyer

Still good though, thats better than the 15% on ult

And always up

[terse idol]

It all makes sense now

[wise fossil]

What's the thought behind using Vanguard & Out for Blood instead of either Longshot & ET or Close Order and Confirmed Kill?

[tiny summit]

Bayonet

[wanton dawn]

Cuz lack of elite reach compared to standard ranged build and I take target down if i need thoughness on elite

[wise fossil]

Are you exclusively using the bayonet for some reason? Like not shooting at all?

[wanton dawn]

I am shooting if i have no choice

[wise fossil]

Alright well I don't get it but good luck

[wanton dawn]

Lemme me demonstrate

[tiny summit]

I don't use out for blood for my builds but it's fun to do different stuff. Like this.

[tiny summit]

Don't sleep on bayo

[wise fossil]

I'm not sleeping on bayo, confirmed kill and close order are still better even if you're going out of your way to shoot things less often

[terse idol]

Hmm, the other one for more toughness gain on melee kill is better for melee

[tiny summit]

It's for all kills

[wanton dawn]

Also the right path have the 5% movement speed

[terse idol]

Ooh

No yeah its good

[tiny summit]

I personally don't like for my shooty builds, but I won't knock it's value

[wanton dawn]

The only time I have thoughness problem with the bayo build is when I get pinned down

and my ult is on CD

Also work against boss https://packaged-media.redd.it/ktys4p0hp1cc1/pb/m2-res_720p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1707523200&s=c1055ef41f6d5913f706ccf4d6bd94e87c464e47#t=0

Welp, its monster light out, am going in with it

[golden nacelle]

Ok... still on the fence about what changes to make here

[tall torrent]

Groaner to elite

Either blessing to gets hot

It’s salvageable but not top tier

[golden nacelle]

which blessing to switch? I thought switching to blaze away was best, but now im hearing people say gets hit

[wanton dawn]

Man I hate when ppl wait for 10 freaking minutes back against thed dh before deciding to fucking move

[tall torrent]

Gets Hot > Gloryhunter ≈ Blaze Away

[golden nacelle]

yeah, I always did like gloryhunter too

so... gets hot gloryhunter would be ideal then, or gets hot and blaze away

[tall torrent]

Yea

Smth like this

[golden nacelle]

So carapace is actually good then? I used to hear people say carapace was bogus

it's always changing I know

I've got these too

[stiff glacier]

I love that 8% vs groaners

[umbral scaffold]

K I'm not highlighting targets for allies anymore, they forget to watch my backk and I end up getting hit in the back.

[golden nacelle]

so maybe I use the one that has gloryhunter? swap volatile to gets hot, and the pox/groaner to elites or something

[stiff glacier]

Poxgroan for maniac or maybe carapice as that thing dunks flak pretty well already

[serene sage]

Technically a piece of communication I guess

[sonic marlin]

cool stuff but how good is actually shooting the weapon

[tiny summit]

Gamers are stupid

[untold mulch]

[tiny summit]

2nd month into the new year, Orthus Offensive was Dec. "gUyS iS tHe GaMe DeAd?"

[sonic marlin]

those 2 are better than the first one you posted lol

[sonic marlin]

this is a godroll wtf, why even ask about the other one

[untold mulch]

I feel more people are begging basic fucking communication skills

[stiff glacier]

Slightly worse ammo but otherwise better

[tiny summit]

I would say fuck em. Have you seen what gamers are like? Wouldn't blame any studios if they stopped communication with them.

[sonic marlin]

yeah you'd want the charge rate to be the dump stat

but it works

[stiff glacier]

Fortnite conditioning people needing new patch every 2 werks

[tiny summit]

3rd week...idk man things are getting stale

[sonic marlin]

id get that mod for creating weapons in the sim and check breakpoints and change perks accordingly

then either max blaze away or switch to gloryhunter

probably keep unyielding and put cara or 10% elite

[untold mulch]

And thats when you get long term resentment, but alas not gonna discusse

[serene sage]

I mean things are a little stale

[tidal rapids]

I'm switching out infernus for onslaught, but I'm wondering if I should keep the weakspot damage perk or switch it to maniac or carapace.

[serene sage]

I just want to put it in the context of seeing other games being released or updated

[untold mulch]

I wish Recon wasn't at least meme tier, would play

[serene sage]

It's that SpongeBob meme of Squidward looking down from a jail cell

[tidal rapids]

Still run into a fair few vets with Recon, had a damnation hi int with one running infernus on their recon

[tiny summit]

It was a joke to Fortnite, not Darktide. Yea I would like something fresh for Darktide. But to people think Darktide is maintenance mode because it's the 2nd month of the new year...I want to choke a gamer

[serene sage]

oh that specifically yeah

I'm hoping they would at least release a balance patch in a month though

[tiny summit]

Recon nerf

[serene sage]

like make some weapons more or less spicy

[hollow ibex]

Honestly balance passes would be an easy way to keep things fresh without actually releasing new content

[serene sage]

and more recon nerfs

so people can meme

[gusty grail]

I wanna make a fun Vet melee build (probably using the Tagging Keystone) with one of the new shovels or the new chainsword. Does the melee 'bleed on hit' count chain attacks as individual hits?

[hollow ibex]

Recons now heal enemies and do friendly fire

[serene sage]

I would support them nerfing recons for the lol then hotfix it 24 hour later and actually buff it

[untold mulch]

Would be nice

[serene sage]

the League of Legends way

[gusty grail]

Recon Las was good for like a week in all of DT history

[serene sage]

League has like one big content update per year

and the rest are just balancing but very few people think it's stale

cause meta changes are contents, whether you like it or not

[untold mulch]

21 days

[hollow ibex]

Yeah surprised we don’t have more games doing this

Changing the meta up

[wooden lotus]

recon las is still okay

[tiny summit]

Shh you'll summon him

[wooden lotus]

like yeah

[untold mulch]

""""2Okay"""""

[wooden lotus]

they kinda suck without specific builds and blessings

[serene sage]

I think recon is just simply boring

[wooden lotus]

cuz you'd just use columbo

but its okay

[serene sage]

like what is it's identity beside being a full auto rifle with no recoil?

[untold mulch]

Low damage, high ammo usage

[tiny summit]

Because if you change what people like already, they may be annoyed. PvP can get away with it more due to the experience and invest usually more/less contained to the match

Don't ask old fgc heads how they feel about patch culture

[untold mulch]

Being meme tier for its entire existence

[serene sage]

actually now that I think of it

[wooden lotus]

onslaught, headhunter infernus and marksman's focus make it actually kinda shred

[tiny summit]

You don't like ammo

[serene sage]

I do think they intentionally mess with the spawn director

[wooden lotus]

but yeah it has ammo issues and feels like shit otherwise

[serene sage]

to keep things fresh

there was a period where gunners were everywhere (patch 13 I swear)
then Crusher spam
then the oops all Ragers era
now it's Bulwark spam

do I have confirmation bias or do people feel the same vibe?

[tiny summit]

My biggest issue with the spawn director is that the spectrum is like a football field and it's why you got people saying auric damnation is too hard/easy

[clever niche]

Flamer spam?

[hollow ibex]

Better than just staying on radio silence imo

[tidal rapids]

The crusher spam is still here lol

[serene sage]

well then nvm

the director is the same then 😔

[clever niche]

Gunner spam is still existent

[dusty sluice]

uhhhhhhhh

[tiny summit]

Now it feels like spam

[serene sage]

well if all the spam are still here then the director is consistent

[tiny summit]

Yummy spam

[dusty sluice]

silly bug found

[serene sage]

I mean was that they specifically afjust the spam rate of each type to keep things fresh

but it seems people are still experiencing everything

so

[tiny summit]

Carapace flamers. Do it fatshark. As a joke

[clever niche]

Daemonhost spam and we’ll get the full Director experience

[serene sage]

we have waves of hound, waves of mutants

[dusty sluice]

i love breaking my arm to use my shovel

[serene sage]

now grow some balls and give waves of bombers

[elder fiber]

Oops all bulwarks modifier

[tidal rapids]

Waves of monstrosities

[tall torrent]

@slender turtle gg

[serene sage]

waves of bombers

[tiny summit]

Carapace groaners

[serene sage]

do it FS

no balls

[dusty sluice]

is this intended or a oversight?

[tidal rapids]

Daemonhosts everywhere but some of them are a hallucination

[dusty sluice]

Dhost landmines

[clever niche]

Kill one spawns 2

[serene sage]

Poxbusters spawned inside walls but never come out

[tidal rapids]

Kill a daemonhost, spawn multiple beasts of nurgle

[clever niche]

Warhammer 40K: Gaslight

[serene sage]

we can also do the nesting doll enemies

kill one crusher spawn 2 maulers

kill one mauler spawn 1 rager

[tiny summit]

Imagining dog sized crushers

[hollow ibex]

killing a pox burster spawns another one immediately

[clever niche]

Bye knee cap

[serene sage]

crusher sized dogs

[tiny summit]

Beast of Nurgle on death is a pinata of bursters all over the room

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-nope-move-away-nasa-explosion-gif-14113120

[tiny summit]

Imagine if police had dog sized spiders as K9 units

[serene sage]

would you rather fight 1 dog sized spider or 300 spider sized dogs?

assuming you are naked

[untold mulch]

OH FUCKKKKKKKKKK

[crude ermine]

My children

[untold mulch]

Dammit, dogs don't deserve that

[serene sage]

I ate them all sorry

[crude ermine]

What the fuck

[untold mulch]

but I ain't fighting a dog sized Spider

[tidal rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-flamer-heresy-purge-warhammer40k-lightning-claws-gif-16488791

[serene sage]

Should've put more salts

They were bland

[crude ermine]

Because you ate newborns at a rapid rate

[serene sage]

Wait did you say spiders are your favorite?

[tidal rapids]

On a different note

Infernus is getting swapped to Onslaught, but should I keep the weakspot perk?

[slow spade]

Surprising lack of spider enemies

[hollow ibex]

weak spot damage bad

[crude ermine]

Yes

[slow spade]

Spider sexy

[crude ermine]

Do not the spider

[umbral garnet]

Quick question, lads

Which Headhunter gun is the good one again

[tidal rapids]

Maniac or Carapace then?

[crude ermine]

7

Carl's 7

Vraks

[hollow ibex]

i'd prob favor cara

unless you can't one shot headshot ragers

flamers shouldn't be an issue

[tidal rapids]

Given damage is 80%, I'd expect a charged shot to but I'll have to test in the meat grinder

[tiny summit]

Yum

[crude ermine]

Hnnrrnng

[tiny summit]

Maniac will probably be best.

[tiny summit]

Don't think it will but depends on build. I know my hb2 needs MF stacks to get rager 1 shots

[slow spade]

Sedition difficulty to always 1-shot 😎

[gusty grail]

Does anyone know if chain weapon's special attack triggers Serrated Blade multiple times?

[umbral garnet]

I JUST GOT POWER CYCLER 4 BABY

FUCK YES

LET'S GO

[wanton dawn]

doesnt

[gusty grail]

Boooo 😭

[slow spade]

Nice job :D

[gusty grail]

I'm trying to make a good melee build with something fun like chain Sword or new Shovel

[wanton dawn]

Rofl

[slow spade]

A match made in heaven UwU

[slender turtle]

We were in a game?

[tall torrent]

Yea I was psyker

[slender turtle]

I didnt know you had a psyker but glad to play with ya

[gusty grail]

Imagine playing DT without the "I won secret hard mode" icon next to your name

[wary galleon]

when you get sniped 1 frame after getting revived and insta dies

[wary galleon]

secret??

[gusty grail]

Secret Hard Mode

[wary galleon]

there is just 1 hard mode though

[wary galleon]

hmm

ah waaa

[wary galleon]

how to activate it?

[hollow ibex]

you have to do some stupid fucking bell puzzle

i couldn't be arsed

esp doing it with pubbies, it's just not happening

[wary galleon]

ah

[sonic marlin]

does it not include auric?

[slender turtle]

When most of the people you have played with has the insignia, its not so secret anymore

[gusty grail]

Secret Hard Mode is still apparently secret. Most people wear it cuz IDK how you can join a pug match without the "I'm at least competent at this game" badge

[golden nacelle]

This thing is pretty great, gotta say. Love my agripinaa brauto too, but I feel like the Graia is a little bit slept on.

[gusty grail]

It has been slept on, the braced fire rate 🫨

But it doesn't pierce 😭

[golden nacelle]

yeah

true

[gusty grail]

Agripinaa shoots through the Ogryn

[frank ether]

its been slept on cause it makes me want to sleep

using it

[gusty grail]

So it's 100% better

[golden nacelle]

but even so, the ROF is cracked

[frank ether]

wow I love the rof

as I shoot 3 times the bullets

for each kill

[dawn garnet]

i wish whoever added that stubs their toe

[gusty grail]

I use it on Zealot (i only play zelot when I don't care that the class is actively throwing the game)

[golden nacelle]

lol

[gusty grail]

Zealot ult plus it's increased fire rate is hilarious

[hollow ibex]

graia is absolutely not slept on, the only reason you don't hear about it as often is because column is busted

[golden nacelle]

yeah, its good in the same way as CIAG is good

it pairs with onslaught really well

[gusty grail]

Imo the Ag Braced Auto is better than CIAG for shooting the entire match and not giving a fug

I think it has better ammo or maybe the piercing makes it better for hordes

[golden nacelle]

Oh, I love the AgriBrauto for sure

They both are fun to play

yeah, don't really use guns for hordes

Agri is better for longer range, and better for larger targets

But Graia really shines when you've got a billion small shooters mixed with gunners

[gusty grail]

You can use it for hordes and crushers with onslaught

[golden nacelle]

the large clip size makes for short work there. It always all depends on the composition of what you're fighting at the time

I find graia and Agri pretty much equal for crushers, with onslaught

[tiny summit]

The real meta for agri brauto is that it shoots through ogryn teammates

[golden nacelle]

yeah, and thats fair

It's great to not have to hate your Ogryn teammates

[tiny summit]

Graia and burst fire headhunters is Call of Duty Darktide gaming

[golden nacelle]

So... for Agri... Bring it down, or Rending Strikes?

I usually go rending myself, mostly cause Ogryn enemies dont usually seem to be what gives me issues

and the rending applies to everything

just curious what people like

This is my preference

[dusty nacelle]

You don't have to do the bell puzzle if you know someone who's already beaten the twins in special HM
You can just use the bell skip at the start and the secret hardmode will be auto activated iirc

also question about focus target, if you ping an enemy twice by accident after spending all ur stacks on the first ping does that enemy keep the original debuff or does it get overwritten with a 1 stack debuff?

[tiny summit]

I wouldn't know but redirect fire buff refreshes at highest stack buff, even if you kill a target with only 1 stack

[tall torrent]

You can only overwrite if the latter tag has higher stacks than the former tag

[dusty nacelle]

Really? Tyyy, did not know that

[wary galleon]

ah thanks ill keep that in mind.

[silent adder]

Hello, kinda new player here

only level 16 trust for now

I think I might like the recon lassgun a lot

so I was wondering if anyone might give me some insights, recommendations and how to build my talents around the gun

[tall torrent]

They’re not in the best shape right now and if you want to play them well at a high level, they require a lot of talent investment just to be decent

[silent adder]

hmm

well, I'm playing on difficulty 2 for now

[untold mulch]

Yeah, before any recommendation Heresy + Above, Recon's are .... yeah

Up to malice though, no problem

Flak is a good perk to reinforce shooter killing

Maniac maybe to help somewhat, (Recon has TERRIBLE Maniac damage)

DumDum blessing gets maxed out easily

And talent wise... Thats outside my knowledge

[tall torrent]

These are prob the most impactful nodes if you want to play recon

[untold mulch]

Yep, Shocktrooper will help somewhat with ammo consumption

Rending Strikes will help killing anything

And Recon VId basically maxes out Onslaught whenever it wishes

[tall torrent]

Shock trooper saves u a bit of ammo from crits
Extra ammo is just nice
Extra rending helps your unfavourable armor dmg modifiers
Same goes for onslaught, but it stacks higher effect on bigger targets

[hollow ibex]

onlsaught really only applies to vid tho right

[untold mulch]

It helps with all

But VId the most because its silly ROF

[tall torrent]

You basically a zero recoil death laser, it just takes a while to kill high priority targets

[untold mulch]

Note It has no recoil but long bursts/Suppressed and it gets a silly spread

[hollow ibex]

not sure if it's worth going down right tree just for onslaught ngl

[tall torrent]

Mostly 6d
For 7a I don’t think onslaught is worth the point sink
For 2 I don’t think it’s worth running seriously to begin with

[hollow ibex]

yeah that was my thought

[untold mulch]

While being heavily suppresed, I have had to aim at enemy feet sometimes

[untold mulch]

Right, that

II is not even a meme

[hollow ibex]

yeah vii and vid are ok for the memes

[untold mulch]

VId is possible to use (the constant, well I can Auric it so IDK whats the problem)

Still ehhh

[tall torrent]

I’d suggest practicing melee and learning the basics if you’re going to be staying in uprising for a while

[zealous thunder]

This is probably a common question, but how good is the Sunder blessing for power swords?

[raw steppe]

it's good.

[tall torrent]

It gives you 400% cleave (and a hidden bonus of minimum 4 enemies hit by cleave)
Which allows u to do funny things like:
Cleave through 4 scab ragers / scab maulers / crushers or even cleave through bulwarks (won’t dmg bulwark)

It’s good against mass armored elites

[zealous thunder]

Oke that is what i needed to hear

[tall torrent]

And I believe it’s the highest cleave you can achieve (not counting anything that messes with ignoring mass)

[zealous thunder]

Im thinking a power sword with
Maniac dmg
Flak dmg

Power Cycler
Sunder

Im assuming this would be pretty solid

[tall torrent]

Flak isn’t the most impactful, I’d go maniac/carapace/unyielding

[junior needle]

All of them want it due to all recons having higher than average rof and lacking modifiers against various targets.

Of course the 6d is the only one with somewhat acceptable dps. Long ass TTK on everything means you big stack onslaught at least.

[tall torrent]

Maniac gives u mutant 1HS from empowered push atk

Carapace basically guarantees 2 hit crusher from combo

Unyielding (if u build for it) could 1HS bulwarks with push atk & improves monster dmg

[zealous thunder]

Oke, think i'll go maniac and carapace then

Now i just need to find sunder IV and power cycler IV...

[serene sage]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/S1W9GZvAxr

Reddit has brain damage again

[untold mulch]

Lmao

[serene sage]

And they are downvoting everyone who disagrees

Dude is actually asking to one shot everything in the game except crusher and bulwark

[untold mulch]

If we were going with canon power, autoguns with normal ammo would be a joke compared to all other options

[serene sage]

[dusty sluice]

i find silly things in my inv sometimes

[serene sage]

Well if we have lore accurate weapons, then we should have lore accurate enemies.

[velvet glen]

Thinking about coming back. How good is the new chain axe compared to the chain sword? Is the power VI still as busted as in decembre?

[serene sage]

Chaos spawn will insta kill you

BoN swallow is simply a death sentence

[dusty sluice]

WHEN

[untold mulch]

My Vet just built diff

[serene sage]

Ogryns sending you to the shadow realm, none of this down/rescue bs

Cause there aren't no body left

[soft blade]

entering any mission without a respirator causes you to contract turbo syphilis and die in 30 seconds flat

[gusty grail]

What is the best Vet melee (no noobs who fell for the Power Sword Meme pls)

[serene sage]

?

[soft blade]

rashad or psword

take your pick

[serene sage]

Sounds like you already have your mind made up and is looking for validation

[terse idol]

Powersword meme?

🥹

[serene sage]

Take the thing that you like then

[crude ermine]

Feet

[soft blade]

banned

[serene sage]

Pic or it didn't happen

[terse idol]

Like to be fair a rashad is very difficult to build

[crude ermine]

1984'd

We talking breakpoint wise or just in general

[soft blade]

optimal rashad is hell to make but it’s hilariously strong

[terse idol]

Little bit of both

Need min 70 damage and 2 good either perks or blessings

[serene sage]

My rashas can't swipe bucket heads

Which is a mild problem

Buy it's good against everything else

[terse idol]

Which means, BM is mandatory, And Unarmoured is mandatory

Yeeah

Which means you do kiiiinnddaa need flak

[crude ermine]

evil

[terse idol]

Like, it FEELS like a psword is just kinda great with just Pc4

But rashad has minimum requirements

[gusty grail]

Reshaad is relaxing, ps is clunky

[crude ermine]

I used it after so long

Can't

[gusty grail]

But what is the best for killing elites and horde

[crude ermine]

Hmm

I have one in my mind but I can't remember it's name

[serene sage]

It's Friday yo

[crude ermine]

Actually it's Saturday for me

In about 27 minutes

[soft blade]

Wrong!

time zones other than my own are lies

nice try though

[crude ermine]

WHAT

[wanton dawn]

WRONG

Time is a lie

We all saw interstellar

[soft blade]

uh then how do i own a clock checkmate liberal

[wanton dawn]

Then how do i own a clock myself ?

[soft blade]

idk i’d have to ask an expert on that

[serene sage]

Yours is wrong mine is right

Right now it's 5:36 PM

[soft blade]

True !

[wanton dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/interstellar-cost-little-maneuver-51years-51-gif-24426899

[soft blade]

this guy gets it

[crude ermine]

Erhm it's actually 11:36

[tall torrent]

Did u take the 10% melee dmg node

[crude ermine]

You fucking DINGLEBERGS

[soft blade]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lie-detector-cap-you-are-lying-stop-lying-gif-12198388917433403789

[crude ermine]

DONT YOU FUCKING LIE DETECTOR ME

[serene sage]

If you're really from the future, tell me what to eat for dinner then

[crude ermine]

Alfredo

[wanton dawn]

NOthing

[crude ermine]

Chicken alfredo

[serene sage]

Wrong, it's buffalo chicken you fooles

[crude ermine]

What the fuck

[serene sage]

I knew you guys are fake

Can't trust the French 🍟

[shrewd sable]

tbh the mk3 shovel is kinda growing on me. ive only been testing it in the psykanium lately and am thinking of making one to try out in some runs

[serene sage]

Now, let's play a game of DT maybe?

[wanton dawn]

Our fault, we tend to assume good taste

[serene sage]

😔

[wanton dawn]

yah walk into that one

[crude ermine]

Walked into it like deer and headlights

[gusty grail]

1 shotting crushers is good

[shrewd sable]

ive been 2 shotting crushers, 1 shotting muties. though i havent messed with the build too much yet. didnt think you could reach 1 shot potential for crushers unless its after some prep or combat ability usage

[gusty grail]

I think u can with tagging keystone and thrust, uncanny and the right perks

[shrewd sable]

cool, i'll mess around with it. thanks

ah yeah you can even without uncanny. crazy. just thrust+skullcrusher+tag keystone. wild

[terse idol]

Psword

You know that funny thing you do

Where you just

1 tap mutant hordes

Yeah...

And that was one of the first missions I used my psword, Mutant horde, poxburster horde, hunting grounds

[crude fiber]

You can at base 1 shot crushers with the right build. I'll send a screenshot when I get home

[silent adder]

So if I'm a new player with some experience with coop horde shooters (come from DRG) which weapon would you recommend me to use? Something easy to use, kinda polivalent and not extremely demanding?

and enough ammo to compensate for not perfect shooting

[vague badger]

you're lookin' for ogryn

and if you want to invest in it, psyker can eventually not use ammo at all

[silent adder]

kinda not looking for help with Ogryn

and when I mentioned ammo I didn't mean it as a make or break

more like an extra

I want to play veteran

which is why I'm in this chat

[lofty lintel]

whats good

[vague badger]

well veteran is an accuracy focused class mostly, but you'll wan to use the autoguns

[lofty lintel]

any weapon goes

lol

except shotties

[silent adder]

lol

[wise fossil]

Depends a little bit on your playstyle. The Mk XII lasgun is good but really wants headshots. Same with the Helbores. Any of the infantry autoguns are good, and the braced ones are good too (I prefer agri braced)

Plasma gun is OP as hell right now

And Bolter can be okay if you take the right talents

[lofty lintel]

if you want your classic generic assault rifle use any of the infantry autoguns

[crude fiber]

Braced auto guns or lasguns for good ammo

[wise fossil]

Also Zarona revolver is quite strong

[silent adder]

I want to be able to shoot weak points but have the damage and firepower to choose not to go for the head if I'm not in a position to aim for them

[lofty lintel]

this is what i mean by any weapon is fine

[wise fossil]

The infantry lasguns have great ammo

[wise fossil]

You want ADS or does it matter?

[silent adder]

what is ADS

[lofty lintel]

revolver

[wise fossil]

Aim down sights

[lofty lintel]

zarona

[silent adder]

no idea what is aim down sights

[wise fossil]

As opposed to like an aim icon in the middle of the screen

[lofty lintel]

what

you aim through

your sight

thats on your gun

[wise fossil]

Ever played COD? Like where the game actually has a sight you're looking through

[silent adder]

No

[wise fossil]

DRG does not use ADS

[silent adder]

I've never played COD or any other PvP fps

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/aim-down-sight-shooting-shot-gameplay-pubg-mobile-gif-15839034

[lofty lintel]

thats ADS

[wise fossil]

I'd suggest the Agripina Braced Autogun if you don't care about sights

[hollow ibex]

that gif is adsing

[wise fossil]

It has good ammo and does fine with bodyshots

[silent adder]

take into account that my interest in shooters is 100% for coop shooters

that is why I mentioned DRG

[lofty lintel]

yup

[silent adder]

I kinda understand what is happening in that gif but I dunno what is what is the lesson I should be taking from it

[hollow ibex]

you were asking what ADS means

[silent adder]

or put it in other way, I dunno what is the technique and why it is important

[lofty lintel]

you look through the scope thats attached to your gun

[vague badger]

makes aiming better

[hollow ibex]

it usually just allows for more precise shots in shooter games

[silent adder]

I see

[lofty lintel]

there are guns who dont have ADS and guns who do

[vague badger]

ads usually reduces bullet spread

[silent adder]

oh

I think I understand now

[lofty lintel]

yes its in essence more accuracy

[wise fossil]

DRG just puts an icon in the middle of your screen

[lofty lintel]

than hip firing your weapon like in DRG

[silent adder]

is it just compensating for recoil?

[lofty lintel]

pretty much

[vague badger]

ye

[lofty lintel]

and accuracy

less spread, less recoil

[silent adder]

ok

hmm

[lofty lintel]

sometimes you need to aim through your sight to hit further away targets

[silent adder]

yeah

I think I got the concept and already apply it, it is just that I dunno the terminology

[lofty lintel]

oh thats fine 100%

[silent adder]

I'd still prefer having as little recoil as possible but I'm conscious that higher recoil = higher power

[lofty lintel]

you will see some weird terminology in this server

dont be afraid to ask

[silent adder]

ok

but yeah, going back to the question

I guess I should go for autoguns?

[lofty lintel]

i recommend the revolver or any of the autoguns

[silent adder]

alright

thanks for your time

[wise fossil]

I'd still suggest this

[lofty lintel]

yeah youll like the agripinaa braced autogun if you come from DRG

[radiant chasm]

there is 9 autoguns rn, 3 families, the braced autoguns which are kinda rambo/cs style, the infantry which are your standard fps guns, and headhunters, which are 2 burst fires and one semi auto

[terse idol]

I will suggest, the Mk7 Vraks is a good one if you want a balance between high-ish recoil and a heavy hitter

And I wiilll say though

It's a good idea to practice and learn how to use Ironsights

Which just means aiming down to shoot

Aloot easier on Infantry lasguns, which do have lower-recoil and pretty alright firepower and it's alot easier to aim down

[junior needle]

I should mention that the sight bouncing on infantry lasguns is technically lower than iag's but still very annoying

[untold mulch]

Is very weird

[tiny summit]

I just want the cone of fire and iron sights to match

Mag dumping a autogun and the 2 not even close to lining up is jarring

[potent iris]

suppression also throws off sight alignment

for some reason getting shot at makes your gun lose zero

'tis jank

[untold mulch]

Is funnier with the Recon

Las comes out at a 15-30º angle

[junior needle]

Gun barely moves, but shots spew out all over the place

[agile forge]

Plasma also doesn't use sights

[untold mulch]

No, it can't have good stats because the perfect accuracy

[junior needle]

Very amusing, I take suppression node now

[untold mulch]

The perfect accuracy=

[agile forge]

I guess it probably feels closest to an M1000

[untold mulch]

I love aiming at enemy feet to hit their heads

[agile forge]

With super blowthrough

[terse idol]

Just take supression immunity

[untold mulch]

I sure love getting taxed more for a shit gun

[terse idol]

SHIT GUN?!

It's like nessasary if you're playing iLas 😌

[untold mulch]

I was talking about Recon

[terse idol]

Oh

[untold mulch]

Ilas is just bouncy af

[terse idol]

It's just no saving it

😌

[untold mulch]

Thats my main complain

also maybe too headshot dependant, but thats just a me issue

but the bouncy recoil is just dumb

[hollow ibex]

i just use recon for spraying and praying usually anyway

it's part of the meme experience

[untold mulch]

Vet be like : PEW PEW PEW shakes his hands vaguely faking recoil

[steep pier]

[hollow ibex]

QA: lack of recoil makes ilas feel bad
Vet: ok, i'll move my hands around a bit

[steep pier]

Sire Melk gave me pc 4

Thank you melk

[hollow ibex]

grats

[terse idol]

I... mayybe it's jsut me but I don't notice the bounce toooo bad

And if I'm mag dumping I don't need alotta accuracy anyways 😌

[tiny summit]

I want the bounce but it is a lil much

[dusty nacelle]

Which DC4 is better?

[junior needle]

Just make sure you shoot into melee chaffe the whole game and suction all the ammo drops from your teammates to do it.

[untold mulch]

Honestly Recon feels great, and it has almost no recoil

[terse idol]

Right Dclaw

[untold mulch]

Sooo, I wish to see those "Recoilless feels bad"

[terse idol]

Finesse isn't something you want to dump

[untold mulch]

Because I ain't seeing it

[terse idol]

But also no flak is ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[untold mulch]

I see it, but is very annoying yeah

[terse idol]

I just think the extra finesse beats the left one

[junior needle]

I don't want the bounce, I hate it

Whomstever made that decision needs to be sacked

[hollow ibex]

of course, it's a core part of the recon experience. equipping the gun immediately drops my iq by 50

[clever niche]

Shooting light bounces

Nice

[tiny summit]

It's because of recons fire rates and sounds. It's an entire package whether a gun feels good to shoot and recoil is one of the main visual points of it. Recon is OK because it's pissing out a stream of lasers. If the iLas had no recoil like recon, it would probably not feel/look great

[untold mulch]

And they went the other entire fucking way for Ilas

I keep my target easier with the Autoguns

Is stupid

[terse idol]

I mean

Okay to be fair

[tiny summit]

Turns out you can fake to gamers how they feel about a gun's power by changing purely visually or audio

[terse idol]

APPEREANTLY

QA had a problem when it had literally 0 recoil

Which...

I mean it would feel like shooting a flashlight if I want to be fair

[tiny summit]

Not to mention QA uses semi-auto

[untold mulch]

Oh yes the Thompson vs MP40

Visual and Audio is very important to gun feel

[untold mulch]

Cringe

🗿

[terse idol]

we have noo reference as to how the gun would feel with 0 recoil but it certainly wouldn't feel powerful I'd imagine

[untold mulch]

I am okay with the having some kick

my peeve is that they added so much kick, is more awkward to use than a bullet one

in a laser gun

[tiny summit]

I've gotten used to it. I like the kick and don't feel like it hurts.

[slow spade]

they should double all recoil

[tiny summit]

I wanna see psyker's lose their shoulder

[slow spade]

melee weapons should also have recoil

[junior needle]

This would be why the recons still have ardent users despite being dogshit.

But it FEELS great in aurics

[hollow ibex]

yeah ngl recon does feel good to use

until you notice the dps that is

[junior needle]

It does

[hollow ibex]

i'll still use it sometimes tho

[junior needle]

I assume fatshark is using usage statistics to justify balance decisions

[tiny summit]

The post las piss clarity

[slow spade]

plasma is about to lose like 75% damage

[terse idol]

I'm only assuming in the next patch they'll nerf colubus, pgun and MAYBE revolver

[slow spade]

revolver is about to get buffed again

[terse idol]

And buff nerf recon

[tiny summit]

Recon nerfs

They just commit to the bit

[terse idol]

[junior needle]

Recons, which naturally feel better to use, retain a higher usage rate because it looks appealing and many casuals care little about objective performance.

Helbores are very strong but get little comparative usage because charging mechanics and single shot.

[terse idol]

They'll nerf it then release the hellgun

😌

[torpid mortar]

I wanted to make a build that is solely focussed on buffing my team (focus target, Born Leader, voice of command+duty and honour)
and basically Plasma gun for elite killing and the sword+ shredder grenade spam for horde clearing
any ideas on how to optimize?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9b4c6668-0670-44c3-9dfc-29bfe0a7358f

[junior needle]

Let's see

Twinned blast is a meme, don't recommend

Focussed fire isn't really that useful as you're often on min stacks outside of bosses, born leader is much worse than it seems

You don't explicitly need demo team if you're running nade regen

charismatic actually applies to the range of VOC so it's not the worst

[hybrid token]

i have failed dah emprah

[steep pier]

Pc 4 is great

[torpid mortar]

i used it because of redirect fire. Once you have 8 stacks of this, it doesn't matter how many stacks you put on an enemy. It will always just refresh "redirect fire" to 8 stacks as long as its running

[torpid mortar]

ok, other alternatives?

[junior needle]

Interesting, never heard of this interaction before. Lemme test it

[torpid mortar]

I thought of twinned blast for better horde clear since thats my weakest point

[steep pier]

I use helbore only on vet

Only gun I need on vet

And I just got pc 4

[junior needle]

You wanna git gud at melee and not use nades for casual horde clear, they're more SHTF panic button

But of course you'll have excess with nade regen so you can use it for breathing room

[hybrid token]

twinned blast is good in (1) situation

[torpid mortar]

yeah as long as you still have stacks of "redirect fire" it will just refresh them. So I just build up 8 once and after than just spam the tag on every special I see to keep the 8 going

[hybrid token]

melee only

otherwise its pretty bad yeah

[torpid mortar]

fair enough

[junior needle]

field improv is in the same tier if you don't want/need more damage

[torpid mortar]

whats charismatic again?

[rain badger]

[junior needle]

aura radius, near the top of the tree

[hybrid token]

bigger aura, more people in my aura, more ammo for me from scav

big brain time

[final locust]

you know when

you just dont know wtf to play

[torpid mortar]

its already selected

[torpid mortar]

where is that?

ah wait found field improv

[junior needle]

I know, it's an unusual node but I was commenting that it was still applicable

[torpid mortar]

ahh

[junior needle]

Most don't know about that interaction

[torpid mortar]

yeah I wanted bigger aura for my people

ok, I take out demolition team and twinned blast
which gives me 2 points. Not sure where to go with them

what about precision strikes so that my plasma gun always just onehits elites in the head?

30% damage sounds good?

[junior needle]

It does not actually do this.

[steep pier]

Nice

[timid otter]

Its much less then 30% in reality.

[junior needle]

Precision strikes can be useful, just keep in mind that weakspot damage is always weaker than it seems due to shitty damage calc

[timid otter]

due to how weakspot damage is calculated

[torpid mortar]

no, what I meant is: you have the 8X effect of redirect fire now. And if you mark and kill any other elite, no matter how many focus stacks you put on them, it will refresh the 8 stacks

even if you put only one focus stack on the next enemy. This will refresh to 8

[junior needle]

Oh I see, it does work like that. It's only 4.5% damage that way though

[steep pier]

Should I go helbore 3 now that I got a brutal 4 pc 4 sword

[final locust]

they saw my pleas for a red helmet

[torpid mortar]

I thought it is 1.5% per stack, which means 12% for 8 stacks?

[junior needle]

4.5% added with the 8 node, excuse me

From redirect fire

[torpid mortar]

ahhh yeah

[steep pier]

Melk finally didn't let Me down

Got my pc 4

[torpid mortar]

what should I change then?

[silent adder]

@wise fossil thanks for the suggestion back then but I think I'll go for the infantry autogun, I really like having the ability to aim

[steep pier]

Use the perk deadshot

Even without stam you don't got that sway you get when out with it

Also better crit chance

[acoustic sapphire]

I'm wanting to build a new knife for my Infiltrator Veteran. I know Mobility and Finesse are the most important stats, but which of these 3 knives would be my best choice?

I've already got a fully upgraded MK3, so I want to get a MK 6.

[wise fossil]

Sure thing. Infantry autoguns are very good

[wise fossil]

The 377 has the best finesse, first target, and pen

[acoustic sapphire]

I sacrifice a little mobility with it, but not much.

[hollow ibex]

mobility is the dump stat anyway

[acoustic sapphire]

(X)

I like being fast. Let's me explore more efficiently.

[hollow ibex]

not going to make much of a difference

if you're running knife, your greatest boost of mobility is from the forward momentum of the heavy attack anyway

[torpid mortar]

so uhhh

is this a good roll? seems like a good one

it rolled pretty terribly 😦

[dusty nacelle]

Thoughts on chainsword vs DC4 vs power sword?

[hollow ibex]

they're not really comparable imo

ps is a do-everything god weapon

dc4 is more of a defensive weapon

[dusty nacelle]

Which power sword would you say is better for horde clear?

[hollow ibex]

ps6 is objectively better, but clunky

[torpid mortar]

is this salvageable?

[rain badger]

lmao, oof, bruh

[hollow ibex]

once you get over the clunkyness, it's very powerful

[dusty nacelle]

Define clunky?

[rain badger]

reload speed to carapace and volatile to either blaze away or gets hot

[hollow ibex]

it's basically useless unless you charge, the dodge distance is like the dodge of a toddler that skipped leg day

and the charge requires charge canceling

[dusty nacelle]

wtf is charge cancelinggg jeezz

[hollow ibex]

block* canceling

[rain badger]

dodging with plasma

[hollow ibex]

you charge, and immediately block

[white minnow]

essentially there's a slowdown on activation on the mk6 and it's a weapon that you can be said to be in "negative frames" because the activation is what makes the pswords good

[hollow ibex]

it's not as bad as it sounds

[rain badger]

you take horde clear melee with plasma

[hollow ibex]

but it does take some practice to get used to

[dusty nacelle]

Ohh block cancelling

[hollow ibex]

it's also kinda a pain to roll

but it's one of the strongest melee weapons in the game

[white minnow]

it's a neat little thing that the mk6 gets because crab noted that the activation animation looked awfully similar to a block so you might as well give it a neat trick like that

[dusty nacelle]

How important is cleave targets for a PS6 btw?

[white minnow]

not at all

10.9 cleave at 60% cleave targets and 11.7 cleave at 80% cleave targets on special attacks

i consider it a dump stat as long as you have over 10 cleave (you need >10 cleave to cleave 2 maulers/scab ragers)

[old quail]

i make sure my damage stats are as low as possible so that i may engage in glorious melee combat for longer

[white minnow]

you sicken me

[old quail]

i am honorable

[hollow ibex]

Don’t play with your food smh

No manners

[old quail]

are u eating the heretics

[slow spade]

I agree UwU

[torpid mortar]

this salvageable?

[hollow ibex]

if you want a truly meta ps, you'd need brumentum/sunder + pc4, and then typically unyielding + maniac or something along those lines

so yeah that's bricked, sorry

ps is one of those weapons where the meta blessings are very important

[agile forge]

Maybe swap rampage and weak spots

And it can be a starter power sword

But don't stop looking for a better one

[austere pine]

what's the best infantry autogun?

[slow spade]

Slaughterer is fine replace Rampage with Power Cycler when you can

replace weakspot with flak

[junior needle]

ciag has the highest automatic dps in the game but the recoil can rub people the wrong way. You need to scoot and shoot with it since moving makes it worse.

[junior needle]

Do the benefits actually work without stam now? Because they didn't last I checked. Also deadshot doesn't work on plasma for whatever reason.

[austere pine]

what's the dump stat for it?

[junior needle]

Mobility, as with most ranged weapons

[austere pine]

was about to rejoice

[slow spade]

stopping power is the dump stat UwU

[serene bough]

Damage is a dump stat

[austere pine]

conflicting info

[slow spade]

I have literally NEVER been wrong

[junior needle]

Stopping power affects your damage modifiers to various armor types

[slow spade]

unrelated but here is my Columbus

[junior needle]

69%
nice

[slow spade]

ignore the stopping power

[slow spade]

immediately bumped it to orange after seeing the 69

[austere pine]

i've been getting the saddest columbi. either like a 25% ammo or a 30% stability

help me bros

[slow spade]

coming here to ask for help instead of praying to the Omnissiah

yeah I can see why your rolls are low UwU

[junior needle]

Don't worry, the gun is quite overtuned. Even with 0 damage/stopping power rolls you'll sizably outperform a recon lasgun in ttk.

[toxic leaf]

this is ur columbus

[austere pine]

as a zealot main, i see no reason for us to tolerate that techno-heretic scum. as a veteran secondary, i don't want to worship another god who i barely get to see (sincerely, a judge/loose cannon player)

[slow spade]

wtf? who told you these lies

[toxic leaf]

somebodyh said it

they out here sayin

[slow spade]

fucking ban them

[toxic leaf]

everytime i use columbus, i swear the game puts me in a group of nothing capable of hitting any targets outside of 20m

like trauma psykers and roasty zealots

so its like pulling teeth when snipers spawn

the director knows

[slow spade]

not respecting the Treaty of Mars

fake Zealot detected

[austere pine]

i have a similar problem when i play my eviscerator/braced autogun zealot. teams get stuck on 2 ragers while i'm 50 feet away trying to solo 5 crushers

game's hard btw

[toxic leaf]

my columbus was the second transcendent i rolled after hitting 30, i really need to replace it but its served me well

[slow spade]

I mean Columbus does have a good crit chain

so its not the worst thing

[toxic leaf]

oh yea its crits are nasty

[slow spade]

and there's not many good blessings after DumDum

[junior needle]

But the speedload

[toxic leaf]

yea its the speed load, which is ok

but like it could be something better

[steep pier]

Can't stand gun psykers they always die

Useless psykers use a gun

They die and quit

[south vessel]

what blessings/perks do I want on Plasma? Blaze Away/Gets Hot? Are there any well known dam/stopping power breakpoints I need to reach for things

[crude ermine]

Perks is unarmored and I forget the other one

Blaze away and glory hunter can also work

[slow spade]

Infested and stamina 😎

I go Flak + maniac because fuck specialists

[south vessel]

Cara not needed for the bigbois then?

Though all of this is academic; Hadron keeps handing me bricks

[slow spade]

I never needed it but I use ping keystone

so I usually have a +16% minimum damage buff active

also I have both the elite + ogryn damage for another +35% damage

[spring spindle]

Well. I learned a thing today

[raw steppe]

ye there's one breakpoint for dreg gunner, which you can hit with keystones or perks

otherwise the perks i would recommend is maniac and unyielding

so you can hit the bulwark breakpoint and the flamer breakpoint

[south vessel]

and I thought the thing you learnt was that you could kill people with grenade impacts

(is that what happened? it looked like that happened. if so TIL)

[spring spindle]

I didn’t hit him with the grenade. There was no hit marker

The door killing a boss was what I discovered

[south vessel]

Oh yeah. It looked like their head popped off as the grenade hit them and bounced upwards, but I guess that was something else. Hard to tell 'cause pixels

[crude ermine]

Works on plague ogryns too

No beasts of nurgles tho

[raw steppe]

whatever you do don't put unarmored on it lmao

i don't know where this idea of putting unarmored on plasma came from

but there's so many different ways to hit that breakpoint

without essentially wasting a perk slot

[tall torrent]

It’s just a point save

[steep pier]

I had them do that 9 times today

On damn

[steep pier]

With a door?

That door puts hammer to shame

[raw steppe]

the thing is i think you can hit that bp with 10% elites if you really need it

so even for a point save you can just go elites instead

[crude ermine]

Cool

[steep pier]

Door works on muties

I've seen it

Oof

[crude ermine]

Guess it's revolver time

Dude my game fucking bugged and didn't let me equip the revolver

So now I have a fucking vraks 7

[raw steppe]

you need to equip it outside of the waiting room

the bug always happens if you try to swap loadouts

[crude ermine]

Stupid

It is

Oh my god can I stop getting scuffed in progress runs

[tall torrent]

without the elite talent u can't I think

it's for saving points so u don't need that elite talent

[crude ermine]

Ok I'm gonna try trauma psyker because there's a part where without a psyker pubs just get eaten up

[jolly hemlock]

another bug i diddnt knew of its great howmany bugs the game has and every patch adds new ones and the old ones dont get fixed

[empty kettle]

Is the 45 damage gap from the lost 9% in damage bad. Should I reroll for a second one?

[junior needle]

Plasma is pretty particular about breakpoints so the answer is actually yes, it can screw you out of some things.

Dont put shattering on it though

[empty kettle]

I’ll roll for an 80 damage. is it mostly fine if other stats are 60 or 70?

[junior needle]

It becomes more damage if you look at the inspect screen

You want damage and stopping power as high as you can get it, charge rate and thermal res are more utility

Charge rate affects how fast your lights come out, and certain amounts of thermal increase how many lights you can do before hitting full

[empty kettle]

Is ammo fine as a dump?

[raw steppe]

not really lol

it can be a bit lower

but you can't really truly dump anything

[junior needle]

You can dump it a little

But ammo is always useful

Because ammo pickups are based on max ammo reserve

including surv

[empty kettle]

Dang it’s tough I’ll try to get 80 Damage and high stopping power and leave everything else over 69

[junior needle]

Leave them exactly at 69

[golden nacelle]

decimator is one of the good shovel blessings, yes?

decimator and hammerblow?

what's the ideal on a shovel?

[junior needle]

decimator
Yes, it's one of the better choices on standard shovel.
hammerblow
No.
what's the ideal on a shovel?
Depends on which one.

[golden nacelle]

I just got decimator and thunderstrike lvl 4's earned, and I have this decent enough roll to work with

what would you change, and to what?

not a perfect roll looks like eh? but a good jumping off point. Probably would be fun to try out some shovel play

gonna be hard to replace my 550 Antax haha, but I like to mix it up

any thoughts?

[obsidian umbra]

is rending strikes useful if you are running stub pistol?

[junior needle]

You mean the revolver?

[obsidian umbra]

yeah og revolver

[junior needle]

Not as useful if you have handcannon and 100% crit uptime

But over 100% is still a damage boost

Just a smaller one

Rending is good overall since it affects everything you do though, including melee

[golden nacelle]

I like rending for fast firing weapons better though

[steep pier]

which ps is better

mk3 or mk6

im using brutal 4 and pc 4

[golden nacelle]

brautos and ciag, and such

[slow spade]

depends

some guns actually have pretty good armor pen

[steep pier]

i like rending with helbore

helbore 3

80% on carp

[slow spade]

like the Columbus has like 95% armor pen minmum vs anything not carapace

meanwhile the MG La has like 60% armor pen vs flak lmao

[golden nacelle]

they have opposite atk patterns Miso

[steep pier]

yes

nobody likes mk3

cause the weird bayonet attack

if they fixed that mk3 would be as good as the others

[golden nacelle]

Arent we talking about power swords?

[steep pier]

you mentioned guns with armor pen

helbore mk3 has 80% pen vs carp

mk 1 and 2 has 40

[golden nacelle]

right

[steep pier]

but mk3 helbore has the really slow sweep attack with bayonet which is awful

[golden nacelle]

Well anyways... I tend to prefer the mk3 power sword, but its up to your preferance really

[steep pier]

i just got a pc 4 mark 6 today

[golden nacelle]

one has the x pattern on lights, and the flat on heavies, the other is reversed

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from melk

so 3 charged hits with brutal 4

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Im trying to remember which is which.... but now I cant remember. but I think maybe the 3 is better for horde clear?

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mark 3 is a horizontal heavy

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But it also depends on if you like to spam lights or heavies

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and it has faster light chains

but its push is a lot weaker

then mark 6

the push attack does less then mk 6

so 3 is offense 6 is defense

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I don't tend to like power sword much anymore anyways, though. Prefer chain sword these days.

but I mostly use my antax combat axe

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do you got power cycler 4

it makes power sword good

having 3 charged attacks

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people say the rashad is better, but the Antax is solid and I got a godroll so I roll with it

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i like the atrox

i prefer tatical axe to combat

cause i can stun lock ragers

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yeah, I just like how my Antax cuts through horde like butter

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but generally i mainly use the shovel

with thrust 4 and brutal 4

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its like a charged power sword without having to charge it

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horde and armor

one shots ragers and with a full charge one hits maulers

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The ciag is a very unusual case, in which it has large positive multipliers to unyielding and maniac close and near 100% for flak, but it has drastically more falloff than the other IAG's. It actually dips far enough at reasonable distances to warrant rending talents for unyielding and flak.

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nice

that stopping power is important

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Nearly 100% modifier falloff for unyielding

Which is insane

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oof

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yeah

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not good

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So yeah, still want rending on it. Also for flak.

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rending is decent

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ah such is life :c

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didn't they nerf the tactical axe a while back

its still fun

i want chaxe to be good but its not

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Rending is amazing, just depends on the weapon

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i like chaxe a lot

but chaxe currently is so bad

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They didn't so much nerf tac axes as rework brutal, they were never really good to begin with and that was a big crutch for them

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maulers use a polearm chain axe

the weird special attack

with timing can stun lock stuff like ragers and maulers

which it probably shouldn't do that

its funny tho

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https://tenor.com/view/wendigo-scary-gif-27034471

Me with my vet cosmetics

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because if you hit them in the head it causes them to stagger which you can do over and over as soon as they recover if not dead

i got the krieger outfit for vet

all i need

i want skins for the shovel and ps

shovel is good vs hordes and decent for armor and most things

just not so good for bosses

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Hey peeps. Does anyone know if weapon specialist bypasses the Crucian Roulette's "Resets on reload?

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No…?

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its been buffed yes

did they fix the animation problem

that was my issue with it

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Folding shovel dunks standard shovel to the bin tbh

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it does yeah

really good

its my main melee weapon on vet and og

it does stuff so well

hordes and armor

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Still love me claw

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i like claw

now im using a pc 4 ps

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Go full crit and parry everyone

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i got pc 4 from melk today

finally

he helped me out so much

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Not a fan of PS

Dont loik its mobility

Simple as

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i got one with a low mobility stat of 70

as lowest stat

so mines fine

brutal 4 pc 4 maniac and unyielidng

only issue is it makes you stop when you activate it

unlike thunder hammer

which is weird

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Blocking cancel help for mk6 iirc

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its like parry

but on power sword

but power sword ain't good without at least pc 3

pc4 gives you 3 charged hits

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Mk4 claw or mk7 claw gang?

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i like both

but 7 has slightly better dmg

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Mk7 does have pretty good light combo

And a one two thrust slap combo

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i used claw for leveling to 30

then swapped to shovel

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But mk4 have the CHEESE HOLE

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claw kept me alive to get to lvl 30

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So it swings fasta

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nice

i should use claw again

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Mk4 sadly dont have good lights for single target

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oof

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All horizontal sweeps

Good hoarde

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i want power halberd for og honestly

but proabably won't happen

power halberds is a sisters thing

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When FS completes their 4 yr mandatory vaccation we might see it happen

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lmao

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For now the janitorial staff is updating reskins

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the sisters are the only faction that can reliably face and have a good chance of beating the space marines

they've proven that already

i want a sister soritas class to play

so bad

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Zealot but less homeless?

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actually

not sure how they'd play

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Is it worth keeping the high crit dmg perk?

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they train harder then the space marines

but they aren't enchanced

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Sure why not get it a spin by swapping both blessings

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the space mariens are basically monks where the sisters are the nuns

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Want it to jack up crushers. Not sure if could hit a breakpoint

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i never liked crucian roulette myself