veteran-class

[novel silo]

Even with a good group of randoms who have done it

[dire olive]

If true then you just need a team

[bitter turtle]

also is this hard mode or just normal damnation

[novel silo]

If you’re free and willing then yes I would gladly and humbly appreciate some help. And no just regular damnation

[bitter turtle]

sure

also

[novel silo]

I think my build might just be off idk

[bitter turtle]

@tiny summit @finite imp

[gusty bison]

Drop ur build

[finite imp]

can i help you

[dire olive]

Focusing the ranged boss first is also a good tip

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/a72d63f63637c07453167f6368ebfead.jpg

https://i.gyazo.com/518311d87d5f0ee2e9a13d6392245a76.jpg

explain this

trashing on my old video 😔

[finite imp]

fired early

i cannot help you

[bitter turtle]

its literally on the head

and then it misses

at least it should have been a bodyshot

[finite imp]

i guess everyone else using that gun is just wrong and crazy

[novel silo]

Have any recommendations for a Columbus build?

[tiny summit]

So I yes I never denied the wobble...but also...that was definitely off

[bitter turtle]

plus

if I have to wait

after a dodge

to shoot

[gusty bison]

Ooo columnus is kinda hard for karnak

[bitter turtle]

that is not a thing i have to do on v7

[gusty bison]

But lemme see

[bitter turtle]

i can literally shoot right after a dodge

[gusty bison]

Drop ur current build here if u can

[novel silo]

That i can theoretically run on Karnak twins and not get bodied immediately? Alright thank you man

[gusty bison]

Mhm. Columnus is a great gun its just karnak is particularly target rich.

What melee r u running

[bitter turtle]

what did I do wrong this time 😔

[finite imp]

IM NOT MISSING EVERYONE ELESE IS

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-dance-crazy-spinning-monkey-gorilla-gif-2062250886955253354

[bitter turtle]

im not saying its impossible to hit

im just saying its clunkier than v7

idk how that is controversial

v7 betta gun

v7 stronk

[finite imp]

i SHOT THE FLOOR AND I MISSED WTFFFFF

[tiny summit]

This shows off the wobble better, and with another video of like the v7 sights not having the wobble its correct. But it fails to actually show the dot "lying" to you. Maybe the iLas shouldn't have the wobble (I agree) I also fire where my dot is

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/f0e356418387cb8a23b51cc481fc99b1.jpg

[gusty bison]

The dot is literally on the chin when the shot is fired

[bitter turtle]

dot is on left side

https://i.gyazo.com/26b3231b09ecb94387d4935aa0628def.png

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[bitter turtle]

laser goes to right side

[gusty bison]

The shot whizzes right

[bitter turtle]

[finite imp]

u missed git gud

[novel silo]

I’ll try and post my build, but first I need to find out how

[finite imp]

skill issue

[bitter turtle]

no u

[finite imp]

ur mom

noob

[bitter turtle]

im gay

i mean ur gay

shit

[finite imp]

same

wait

[gusty bison]

Now kiss

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-love-is-love-sexy-time-gay-boy-time-gif-17362277

[bitter turtle]

use this site

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

anyway lmk if you need help

just ping me or whatever

[novel silo]

Thank you

[finite imp]

ignore our stupid antics

i promise you we are normal

and sane

[dire olive]

Vet main moment

[tiny summit]

Do not listen to this man

[finite imp]

accept drinks from me

here

this is a whiskey coke

and nothing else definitely didnt put a knife in it

thats an umbrella stick not a hilt

[bitter turtle]

oh I get it

to hit with the mk12

i just have to miss on purpose

https://i.gyazo.com/597cc23942f2b5081e031d87e30b767f.png

https://i.gyazo.com/727bde49d9c11290839473cf3ba9791f.jpg

[edgy dew]

does darktide have any kind of known hit register bug? last couple matches I did last night were weird, kept seeing stuff like, would get a head shot, Id even see blood spatter particles come off their body, but the unit wouldnt even flinch or take damage

[midnight mortar]

Yes. It's related to server lag issues.

[bitter turtle]

it happens

a lot

[midnight mortar]

Very common as time goes on since Fatshark doesn't restart their servers.

[bitter turtle]

game is serverside for hit detection

you learn to live with it

[finite imp]

yeah the MK12 is known to miss randomly and I know this for a FACT

[edgy dew]

ah okay, I guess last night was just bad for me

[crude ermine]

Sometimes it just acts like a ghost

[finite imp]

as you can see this emaciated crackhead above me has shown that

[bitter turtle]

thanks for not calling me fat instead

i appreciate it

i would literally kill myself if i ever became fat

[finite imp]

emaciated crackhead is a much cooler insult

fat is boring

[crude ermine]

I had that with IAG's

[finite imp]

if you're going to insult someone make it fun

fat/edgy? boring

raving schizophrenic? there we go

[finite imp]

Nice

7/10 on the shook scale

[bitter turtle]

@gusty bison i found out how to hit with 12

[crude ermine]

Cu wha

Nvm

[gusty bison]

No regs are a thing due to latency sometimes

[steep pier]

Just did the no melee dmg penance by taking 0 dmg from any source

And killing the most elites

[serene sage]

were you lurking in this chat just waiting for someone to mention c*m?

🤨

[gusty bison]

Amazing

[gusty bison]

Aim far to the side that ur dodging towards

[novel silo]

There

[gusty bison]

Omg

Hm?

[gusty bison]

Did u post a link?

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/a7cc5a339a42d8e50423331d14aea1d0.jpg

imagine having a shot go

where ur dot is

must be the cheating mod scope

[novel silo]

Shit one sec

[serene sage]

why is that scope extra thicc?

[finite imp]

YOURE USING A MODDED SCOPE YOU NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB

NO WONDER YOU MISS

[bitter turtle]

Its true

[crude ermine]

Yeah

[bitter turtle]

im a cheater

😔

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-glitch-matrix-gif-25245096

[gusty bison]

Wait latency is gonna fuck with this aint it

[bitter turtle]

i mean

i dont think its easy to predict either way

in all seriousness

lol

[gusty bison]

Lel

[gusty bison]

Try to see if deadshot or exec stance helps

[spring spindle]

I love accidentally going into damnation twins with a grey lawbringer

[gusty bison]

Woops

[hollow ibex]

Even if you bought a yellow one you weren’t going to have a good time

[bitter turtle]

you know you can just

take as creenshot of the tree right

https://i.gyazo.com/39f043f5a187b6e7826c34714f2f7656.png

like this

[novel silo]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9b4889bf-988d-46e3-ba56-3c03a0273dbe

There we go that should be it

[bitter turtle]

deadshot changes nothing

[novel silo]

Well for some reason I am@now able to post photos

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/19754d9572688bf5996da62f0bbf4c78.jpg

dot on right side

[novel silo]

Here you go

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/d2e6d59ed8c05e54dd5948f28a043e61.jpg

laser went left

[spring spindle]

I meant to have my Agri braced

[sonic marlin]

what are these blessings

never seen anyone get rid of dumdum

[hollow ibex]

OK that’s fair

[bitter turtle]

stripped down is fine

switch punishing salvo to dumdum

[novel silo]

Sorry for the spam, hopefully this gives some@context

[bitter turtle]

are you able to manage deadshot

on columnus?

its not wrong

[sonic marlin]

lol doubt it

[bitter turtle]

but

its pretty difficult to manage

[novel silo]

The weapon came like that

[sonic marlin]

full stamina curios, all stamina points on tree is not enough

[bitter turtle]

change salvo to dumdum

[gusty bison]

Ok so first thing im thinking

U probably wanna see if u can squeeze out more melee talents

Melee is super important in twins

[bitter turtle]

drop determined

its not that great on colu tbh

and even less important in twins

[gusty bison]

Yea theres nothing shooting at u in twins anyway

[bitter turtle]

gunners spawn in liek the single digits

[gusty bison]

Drop rending strikes also

10% rending isnt much

[bitter turtle]

10% is alright

i tested it a while back for someone

well

i guess it might not be that good here

[gusty bison]

He has onslaught though

[bitter turtle]

not much damage falloff to counteract

[gusty bison]

Ye

[bitter turtle]

it was still worthwhile in normal game sregardless

but

i guess here

you're all up in everything's face

[gusty bison]

Take redirect fire instead

Redirect fire and target down

Both are amazing

[bitter turtle]

ngl

i'd just take weap specialist instead

personally

[gusty bison]

Thats also an option but thats a major playstyle change

But yea my main thoughts is

• More melee talents
• Take precision strike
• Take redirect fire and target down or change keystone to wep spec

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/db986351173ba19ade30f1003cc68ccb.png

if you're willing to switch keystones

https://i.gyazo.com/92c38ebd0fb6086b6529f4a53a4c3af8.png

if you arent

imo

shredder nades are big value in twins

i would try to grab demo team + stockpile together

actually wait

[novel silo]

Got it, so this is the ideal build for Karnak twins correct?

[bitter turtle]

drop duck and dive

for the middle node instead

for the bottom tree

[bitter turtle]

ideal is not the right word

you can do the middle keystone instead if you'd like

i personally just think weapon specialist is very nice in karnak

it helps you stay mobile

[gusty bison]

Mhm

[bitter turtle]

and you are meleeing

a lot

https://i.gyazo.com/deec938c3030bcb9ac4e03836db3f699.png\

[gusty bison]

Karnak requires u to be constantly moving and juggling weaps

[bitter turtle]

if you do the other tree

dont do duck and dive

like i said

there's like no ranged enemies

like single digit gunners spawn

[gusty bison]

Mhm

[bitter turtle]

so there's no point

[gusty bison]

DnD is pointless in twins ye

Honestly

[bitter turtle]

wait wtf why do i have born leader

dont take born leader either

[gusty bison]

I would drop well prepared and +15% elite damage

[bitter turtle]

for the empruh better

[gusty bison]

And just max out that keystone

Redirect fire is gonna be > 15% elite damage

Cos ur gonna be at max stacks all the time

Which is 32% extra damage for the team period

And 32% extra team damage is massive

[novel silo]

Got it, so I made all the applied changes

How about the curious? Leave them be or change them as well?

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/4954ec8b5511dd2efc274b651a4e1d99.png

yeah

last 2 points can go anywhere

th ekeystones

or elite dmg

i take elite dmg bc fuck my team

but yeah

uhh

are those your curio subperks?

[gusty bison]

Lmao

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/76c5268639fc6d942ac42c43b1a96906.png

these

if so

these are absolutely

terrible

im sorry to say

toughness/hp/stam regen on all of them is pretty safe

sprint efficiency is ok too

gunner resist would be decent but >no gunners in twin

same for sniper

[gusty bison]

Mhm

[novel silo]

😂

[bitter turtle]

its not that important

ngl

twins on damn is not that hard

but

do fix them sometime

[novel silo]

I figured they would be, I’ unfortunately don’t have a clue how to work the curious or the talent tree to benefit me

[bitter turtle]

curios are very simple

you just do those stats I talked about

and everything else is mostly trash (+ordo dockets isn't bad if you want more money to go into gambling for good weapons)

as for the main stat

any combination of

toughness or hp is valid

maybe a single +3 stamina curio

aside from the ones i listed

revive speed is ok

[hollow ibex]

I never take revive speed

Fuck my teammates

[novel silo]

Grawr and weird characters that I can’t write on my keyboard, thank you guys for break everything down to me and helping me out

Much appreciate it guys

[hollow ibex]

Ordo is really nice if you’re just starting out or don’t have as much time to play

[serene bough]

"Weird characters I can't write on my keyboard" lols

[bitter turtle]

just kno wi'd make changes to that tree

for regular play

its just for twins

and np

lul

not major changes mind you

[novel silo]

Got it, I’m going to give it a shot tomorrow and see how it goes. Unfortunately no one wants to run Karnak twins since everyone’s seem to have already done it

I’ll let you guys know how it goes, fingers crossed

[tall torrent]

Are u trying to do Karnak HM

This is what I did it with, last point u can spend on whatever tbh

If you’re playing veteran your main role is to kill all the armored elites that spawn in asap

If u run gloryhunter plasma, swap FTE to born leader

[trim steppe]

Field provisions is GOAT for HM Twins

[tiny summit]

do vent purge's have less spawns?

[finite imp]

Who in here has a messy desktop

[tall torrent]

What perks are best for Boltgun

Between flak / maniac / elite

[ebon umbra]

i am partial to infested

[steep pier]

Damn psykers one was dead from a barrel I was fighting a beast cause it swallowed a psyker and the other one thought they could solo the dh

So it ended up with me being the only person alive for a whole 15 minutes

We did win

[finite imp]

That's called a clutch

Good work

You do the vets proud

It's rough going solo

One trapper or an errant dog and it's over

[bitter turtle]

He's using columbus

[gentle pivot]

Is this a good stat distribution or should I keep rolling

[torpid mortar]

I don't think you are supposed to dump damage

[tall torrent]

Vet’s role doesn’t change in that fight still

[bitter turtle]

I know

But I think you need onslaught for colu in that fight

[tall torrent]

For crushers I guess yea

But kinda hard to relocate 4 points

[placid portal]

You could try it out and compare with 80 damage and 80 pen

[atomic zephyr]

would you guys run deadshot with a focus target/exe stance boltgun build?

[tall torrent]

Deadshot is useful but if you just don’t like deadshot then it’s fine

[atomic zephyr]

cool i dont like deadshot

sounds good to me :>

[tall torrent]

Vet Boltgun usually gets crit chance from surgical already

Deadshot just adds on top of that

[atomic zephyr]

now i just need a better boltgun

[thick rose]

does anyone else have to alt+enter every time they open the game to get it to fullscreeen again?

[tall torrent]

Do u play on <1080p

[left zephyr]

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[finite imp]

Sounds like ur resolution settings are borked

When you open the game it's going off a set res. Alt enter jerks the game back to native

[finite imp]

Idk I just don't let them hide by insta killing them with the revo

Going for a suppression build is a cool idea tho

[left zephyr]

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[atomic zephyr]

when the emperor matches you with a competent team

feels so good

[quartz bronze]

im just starting veteran, does anyone have tips?

[stone dome]

build tips or gameplay tips? general tip is your role is to take out specials, especially annoying sneaky lads like bomber, sniper, trapper and maniacs(as they are hard to deal with in melee), so always have a weapon that can deal with those

[quartz bronze]

bothn and thank you

[stone dome]

for general build and weapon tips filter this chat by media in search and look around at builds and guns people post, for something specific post your weapons/builds and ask for opinions

[quartz bronze]

didnt knwo you could do that

thank you

[woven tide]

Definitely learn how to dodge slide and how to deal with hordes in melee. These are skills that you can develop early on that will be useful in pretty much every scenario that you get into regardless of the difficulty. These apply to other classes as well and form the basics of your kit.

Being able to identify elites and specialists is important as well. Get into the psykanium to get a good look at everything.

Get used to the sounds that some enemies make when they are nearby and when they spawn.

Get some knowledge on the damage modifiers of weapons (When dealing with carapace, headshots, et cetera).

Get used to aiming for weak spots

Get into the habit of forming up into groups

Get used to scrounging around for resources quickly and how to move quickly from point A to point B (Its your team versus the AI Director. The more time you give the Director the more time the director has to make your day much worse)

Learn some of the basics of other classes (Blitz's, capstones, et cetera), helps a bit when you want to have some degree of coordination/forced coordination in public games

Learn the map layouts

Learn more about the mission modifiers and how this can affect your game

There are a lot of other things to get into that aren't just generalized info

[quartz bronze]

thanks, im trying to get decently familliar with all the classes right now before deciding which one im gona main as

[stone dome]

damn, coming from hundreds of hours in vermintide i forgot that basics of combat are not easy here lol

[quartz bronze]

honestly, i loved ogryn the kst. great crowd controll

[stone dome]

ogryn and vet are both good for beginners, ogryn has a big hp pool and a lot of dmg reduction, while vet has a lot of toughness(armour) and toughness regeneration

i personally can't play too much ogryn, lots of crowd control but he struggles to finish off target which triggers me a lot lol

[quartz bronze]

when i think about it, ive only not liked zealot

[stone dome]

zealot is my melee guilty pleasure, if you know how to melee in fatshark games you will dominate, otherwise she is pretty flimsy and ranged dmg(and ammo) is lacking comparatively

[torn needle]

It'll do for now

[woven tide]

Welcome to the knife gang

knife life

[torn needle]

I want riposte 4 but it won't roll

[stone dome]

i honestly prefer brittleness or rend + mercy killer at this point, it's hillarious to 2 shot crushers with a teensy knife

[frank ether]

yea single target is where knife shines gotta play into the strength

I love murking crushers comfortaby one by one

[torn needle]

I rolled over uncannyy 4 for riposte :3

When I run knife I prefer to use my range weapon for larger targets

Either columnus or plasma

[stone dome]

used to do that aswell, but after much foolsy roundy i fiqured a power sword is straight up better for hoarde clear, so i respecced the knife into single target with horde clear capability, aka mercy killer and uncanny

[torn needle]

PS is insane for horde clear and single target, more than knife

BBut the mobility is lacking

I use knife as a horde clear and mobility option as it still does decent single target even with no rending blessings

And use plasma for the big damage

[stone dome]

i have a bolter for specials and ps for clear build, fuck all mobility im not movein

[austere mica]

Same but plasma instead

I used to run shovel then found PC4 within 10 sword upgrades

[torn needle]

I used to love power sword and plasma but plasma felt kinda unnessecary

So I swapped to columnus with ps and it feels better

Crutches the mobility a bit and works so much better with weapon spec over plasma

[terse idol]

Wait

Weapon spec works poorly with automatic weapons

[torn needle]

Wym, the fire rate is great '

And columnus has 4 round burst for crit

[terse idol]

The crit only applies for 1 shot

Its the first shot

[torn needle]

First 4 bullets are crits

[terse idol]

That's crit

Whaaat

[torn needle]

Columnus has 4 round burst crit

When it crits 4 bullets crit

[terse idol]

Never heard that before

[torn needle]

It's not amazing but it's not bad either

I'm pretty sure it's burst crit

Can anyone else verify?

[white minnow]

yeah it has a 4-shot crit string

[torn needle]

Yeah I thought so

[terse idol]

Doesn't that just mean it can crit 4 times in the chain

Not that 1 crit will cause 4 followup crits

[torn needle]

It means when you crit 4 bullets crit

[terse idol]

That...

Doesn't sound right

[white minnow]

i'm not sure what you mean but when a crit is rolled, 4 shots will crit instead of just 1

[terse idol]

But I can do some teesting

[torn needle]

When you hit a crit roll the next 4 shots are crits

Unless you stop shooting

[torn needle]

This

[terse idol]

That's waacky

[torn needle]

Most autoguns work that way

[white minnow]

if your per-shot crit chance is p, then your effective crit chance with a crit string of 4 becomes 4/(4 + 1/p - 1)

something like 5% crit chance translates to somewhere around 15% effective crit chance

https://streamable.com/h56i2e

[terse idol]

[unreal bone]

I'm guessing this is a womp womp?

[terse idol]

Well I learn something new everyday

[shadow aurora]

Do you have anything else?

The thing isnt horrible but its not great either

[frank ether]

Idk getting a single crit string over 10 melee kills isn't all that impressive for ciag

fire rate can be potent though

[unreal bone]

What the actual fuck

is anyone else

unable to play the game

I just got error 2014 in the same mission at the same spot twice in a row.

Obscura Den right before the first ambush where you lose vox contact with the mourningstar.

[sharp ember]

i heard of a similar issue in the obscura den

could be map bug

[near sable]

my similar issue in the obscura den is leaving the obscura den

[frosty oar]

funny moment today

2 sparkheads: having no idea solving tons of enemies plus a chaos spawn.

shouty: died charging with only one life bar

chaos spawn: hugging me on fire (set by the bomber)

me: vet, the only can deal with all kinds of heretics, or at least should able to do that, being BBQ 🔥☠️🔥

fatshark should adjust the mechanism of burning ground

dunno how the kraking fire got me when the spawn licking me like an ice-cream

[mystic owl]

Hate when you're standing in Zealot fire and don't realise you're also standing in bomber fire

[unreal bone]

Something tells me

this is what we're gonna get

in the new shop rotation

This was not here a few days ago in the previews.

[mystic owl]

ooooo

Fancy

[unreal bone]

Bleh

I want the cadian flak armor ffs

Or the camo recon fatiques

[near sable]

no more cadian gear!

well, more cadian gear just not right now

[frosty oar]

we want brand new models.

u can't color a bunch of old gears and claim that THIS IS YOUR CADIAN PACK.

[unreal bone]

But.. The Flak Armor is good.

Just because they released the shitty red camo version first doesn't make the cadian version worse.

The cadian version was actually made BEFORE the red one.

14 months ago the Cadian Flak Armor got leaked.

I've kept track..

[thick flint]

why do I see people ignore the little boost juices that they recently added?

even on higher difficulties

[near sable]

They're not thirsty

[idle carbon]

people are very blind

a lot of them geniunely don't see them

[near sable]

it's one thing on lights out vent purge aight

[idle carbon]

I end up a lot of the times just end up handing them mine, or stabbing them with mine, and picking it up

[thick flint]

I always ping them

[thick flint]

yeah

feels like im some crack dealer

[idle carbon]

stimming the zealot is like letting your hound off the leash lol

[near sable]

the ogryn gets all the funny juices

[thick flint]

gunlugger ogryn with the stubbers and a damage juice ulted up just melts everything

[idle carbon]

I still want to be able to pack every stimm onto one person all at once, but once the buff wears off, you keel over and eat dirt unless you take a med stim first

[near sable]

gunlugger ogryn with celerity stim

[thick flint]

whenever I see a guy playing ogryn like that I just stab them in the ass with a damage boost when theres a monster coming

[blissful flame]

still shaking off rust, but how useful is pinning fire on boltguns and autopistols these days? Last i played was before it got nerfed hard lol

[thick flint]

oh yea esp with the lightest stubber

[near sable]

https://tenor.com/view/a10-a10-warthog-warthog-gif-507440679372428995

[frosty oar]

red ones and green ones, yes tastes good

[near sable]

ogryn pictured above

[frosty oar]

blue ones? never care about that

[thick flint]

blue ones are pretty good

increases your firerate

[near sable]

purple stim for invis when

[thick flint]

whats the red non skull one for tho?

[frosty oar]

another evidence of cocacola superior than pepsi

[thick flint]

the yellow is for your ult regen, green for hp, skull for damage, blue for speed

[near sable]

yeah well pepsi has an entire imperial battlegroup in high orbit

[chilly cobalt]

New drip arrived?

[near sable]

https://tenor.com/view/chaos-fleet-warhammer40k-chaos-space-fleet-battlefleet-gothic-armada-chaos-gif-16797779

[blissful flame]

not yet, from what i see

[unreal bone]

I really hope we don't get those carmine sets.

But I know we're gonna get those carmine sets.

[frank ether]

I'd be more excited for some more guardsman drip in commodore rn

[near sable]

give me feudal world gear

[late hatch]

80s bright spandex aerobics outfits would be dope

https://tenor.com/view/balthazar-bratt-evil-bratt-despicable-me-despicable-me3-lets-get-physical-gif-15360799

[flint onyx]

Thank you Sire Darius Melk, I take back everything I ever said about you

[sharp ember]

late reply but it’s still one of the better blessings for them, though surgical on bolter is pretty hot now

still a free damage boost for blasting enemies

[blissful flame]

good to know. I've got a surplus of melk tokens and I saw a shitty boltgun with pinning fire 4 i could burn

squeeze out an extra 1.25% damage compared to the t3 one i already got!

[dusty sluice]

That price hurts

But worth it

[woeful ibex]

Skin Rotation

[flint onyx]

I have 30k Melk bucks because I never buy anything, meanwhile my plasteel is very low. Definitely worth it

[unreal bone]

sigh

[flint onyx]

Psyker is the only one I like

[unreal bone]

You know

[untold mulch]

Same, I only have bought from Melk

like twice

[unreal bone]

This is gonna sound kinda dumb

but hear me out

if they had a matching Scion helmet.

You could cosplay as like

Ioatan Gorgonnes

OH

OMG

THEY ADDED

A RED HELMET

IDC

LETSGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

GOOD ENOUGH I CAN WEAR THE RED FLAK ARMOR

and actually have a matching helmet.

[untold mulch]

I am only here staring how sad that you lads need to wait for something of the color you want to rotate in

[unreal bone]

Oh trust me

I hate this shop.

But it wasn't about waiting for them to rotate a red helmet in

They never made a red helmet until now

[untold mulch]

fucking lmao

[unreal bone]

That red flak set

comes with a bandana and comtacs headphones.

They have red helmets in the code but refuse to release them.

They straight up didn't even give the alpha players their helmet. 🤣

They have something against red helmets.

[blissful flame]

And I like red

Red is nice

[unreal bone]

Red isn't bad

But until there is a red scion helmet

it will be inferior to green.

[slate plover]

Would the karnak twin mission be good for the make every shot count penance?

[unreal bone]

No lol.

That's assuming they even coded the new special mission to actually count penances.

Hear me out, this would look hella good actually if the Scion helmet was the same color of red as the chestplate.

and you replace the silver lines on the scion helmet with gold lines.

[late hatch]

just wait, they will probably release the good helmet soon for 1900 aquilas so you have to buy it to complete the outfit, like they screwed up the kriegs outfits and made the good helmets a sep purchase

[unreal bone]

I mean

the best helmet for that set

is unobtainable.

[placid portal]

[unreal bone]

The Alpha helmet that they didn't give to their alpha players

look at it

[late hatch]

its so difficult and complicated to change the colour and add a new icon on the helmet

you cant expect miracles from the poor art team

or the monetisation team to give things out for free lol

[unreal bone]

would've been great

I dogged on the carmine set at first.. But the Veteran one.

If you change out the pants for one of the red penance pants veteran gets.

You kinda look like some kinda lord almost.

[blissful flame]

yeah that random ass chainmail chunk looks so out of place

on the "set" pants

[trim hemlock]

The pants are reused across like 5 different item bundles at this point

They only differ by boots IIRC

[unreal bone]

It's the Catachan pants.

That was the ORIGINAL use for those pants.

In the original sumpreme camo commando set aka Catachan.

I put a bionic eye on it and one of the red penance pants.

[slate plover]

Ty

[trim hemlock]

More like Acid Dogs, if you are referencing the first ever Veteran cosmetic bundle

[unreal bone]

I said the first bundle that used those pants, which was the Commando Battlegear in Sumpreme Camo

[trim hemlock]

That is correct

[unreal bone]

Yes

[trim hemlock]

All I was trying to convey is that the set is not very Catachan-y, but then I’m not a lore nerd

[unreal bone]

Idk I mean it's pretty catachan.

I mean the MOST catachan you can get.

is just running around shirtless.

with a bandana.

[trim hemlock]

No bare chest even

[untold mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/rambo-first-blood-gif-23989356

Catachan

[unreal bone]

Well you can blame the world for that because if fartshart made a set that allowed female chars to run around topless they would recieve a pipbomb in their po box

lmao

[untold mulch]

Smh

[trim hemlock]

Female player models have a bra anyway, it wouldn’t have mattered greatly

[unreal bone]

I mean I wouldn't do it I couldn't care less. 🤣

[late hatch]

plenty of games have solved that with a nonremoveable bra thingy

[unreal bone]

I'm a Maccabian enjoyer.

I can see they STILL

have not fixed the coolest revolver skin.

Thanks fartshart. Love a skin that is broken.

[late hatch]

just mod it yourself

[sharp ember]

that skin hails from maccabia? (maccab? idk)

[untold mulch]

They have gone 2 hotfixes with cosmetic fixes

and they have not touched it

[unreal bone]

bruhhh

that's even more

can't say what it is or Ill be silenced.

[untold mulch]

Me too man

Me too

My patience with Obese Tuna is non-existant as of now

[dusty sluice]

It’s not meant to be like that?

Guhhh

[unreal bone]

No

They just didn't test their skin even for a moment

before releasing it.

[dusty sluice]

Nice

[untold mulch]

QA?

[unreal bone]

The front sight IS THERE, but like.

[untold mulch]

whats that

[unreal bone]

They didn't line it up

with the rear sights

[untold mulch]

Whats QA? Thats money that we could use to make more skins

[unreal bone]

so like when you move and the gun bobs you can see the tip of the front sight.

[dusty sluice]

I thought it was on purpose lmao

[unreal bone]

No.

[sharp ember]

is it too short or literally misaligned

[dusty sluice]

Has there been a forum post yet?

[unreal bone]

I think it's literally misaligned.

[untold mulch]

Since the skin released

[dusty sluice]

If not I’ll do it later

[unreal bone]

wait no

[untold mulch]

Fatshark doesn't fucking cares

[unreal bone]

maybe it's too short.

[dusty sluice]

So no bug reports for it?

[unreal bone]

yeah it's too short.

[sharp ember]

yeah too short

[untold mulch]

A lot of people complained when it dropped

I assume some did reports

you can check if you wish

[dusty sluice]

Ah

[unreal bone]

I need some fashion advice

before I lay down

these pants

OR

[sharp ember]

i’m sure the aim sight animation is identical but they didn’t account for modeling the sights around it

[unreal bone]

These pants.

I kinda like the gerdan pattern ones for a multitude of reasons.

[untold mulch]

Protect thy knees

[unreal bone]

It's a tank commander, the tank protects your knees.

[untold mulch]

You are in a tank?

🗿

[unreal bone]

Yeah totally

😜

[dusty sluice]

Yeah…

[sharp ember]

pants 1 looks too bottom heavy

[untold mulch]

Acknowledged

and done jackshit about

[sharp ember]

but good color

[untold mulch]

[dusty sluice]

Fartshit moment

[unreal bone]

Do you think the Fartshart CM people even look at this discord.

Or are they just in it to look like they are paying attention.

[untold mulch]

Catfish does, but either she is done with our assess, or she is forced to limit her interaction

Anyways CM are "useless" if the Company doesn't fucking let them talk/hear their feedback

But we talking about which has the communication skills of a toddler

[unreal bone]

Honestly it takes some skill to have less communication power than companies like Blizzard lol.

[dusty sluice]

There are no dev replies to any of the posts

I only use it on Agri currently

[untold mulch]

Fr

[stone dome]

fatshark is like ea in that matter tbh, unless there is a mass outrage nothing will change

[dusty sluice]

It kinda seems intended

[unreal bone]

It's not.

[untold mulch]

The incompetent actions will keep on until the bag breaks, and then they are gonna apologize/complain how mean the community is

[unreal bone]

Here is how I can tell you it's not intended.

[stone dome]

like they were listening to feedback on launch due to the outrage, now that people are more or less calm they are following their weird plan again

[unreal bone]

why the fuck would you model a revolver to have a front sight.

And then not use the front sight.

[untold mulch]

if it were, it wouldn ot have been only "awknowledged" it would have had a "Intended"

[unreal bone]

Fartshart is dumb, but they are lazy too.

[sharp ember]

thinking about catshark’s personal message relay to the devs that we want hellguns

[unreal bone]

They're not gonna put in the work to make a front sight that is not inteded to be used on the revolver

[stone dome]

what do you expect from a fat shark

[untold mulch]

One or several lead devs in is actually a room temperature idiot

there is no other way around it

[untold mulch]

Yeah, I was surprised about that one

[dusty sluice]

Oh ye

[untold mulch]

I will always repeat this

They took 2-3 months to fix a Vet talent that was a missing "-"

Their dev process is fucked up

[stone dome]

i mean they literally ported more than half the vermintide to up in this sum bitch, yet somehow the dogs that function exactly like assassin rats which always functioned correctly were beyond broken on release

[unreal bone]

I know this

[stone dome]

really reminds me of fallout 76 nonsense, which was a ported fallout 4 but broken

[unreal bone]

My point when I said that was

Fartshart is dumb and lazy, they're not going to model a front sight on that revolver skin

If it's not intended to be used.

ie: Lazy

[untold mulch]

Copy paste, don't think about it

[dusty sluice]

Huh

[untold mulch]

Left side tree?

the one that on headshots you get 10% DR?

[dusty sluice]

Ye

[untold mulch]

It made you receive more damage

for months

[dusty sluice]

Lmaooo

[stone dome]

brother, i be asking how tf do you fuck up a copy paste

[untold mulch]

THE SHARK WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS

[dire olive]

Not "but broken", "more broken"

[untold mulch]

Like

okay

is broken

thats fine, fix it

2 months later

IS A FUCKING -

[dusty sluice]

Ahahahaha

[unreal bone]

What do I put on this

to fix it

[dusty sluice]

Dumdum

[untold mulch]

Is the dev pipeline so fucked that iut takes 3 business months to add a - into the code

or is the code so SPAGUETTI that it broke something???

[stone dome]

they really took inspiration from cyberduck which only got good by dlc release 2 yrs later

[unreal bone]

I replaced Poxwalkers with Maniacs, I'm going off of the guide in the pinned comments.

Dumdum okay once I get dumdum I'll put it on

[dusty sluice]

Instead of quickload

[untold mulch]

Infernus is not great

but is not terrible

[dusty sluice]

I had t4 flak and t3 elites on my roll and I tried to replace the elites with maniac

But hadron made me replace flak

[stone dome]

the thing is it's ported vermintide 2 code, which is ported vermintide end of times code, as such it is fucked beyond hell and they are beyond lazy to fix it aswell

[untold mulch]

💀

[dusty sluice]

Better than speedload

[untold mulch]

Exactly

I need ghost in my Zealot

[dusty sluice]

Also it’s fun

[untold mulch]

because gunners melt my Zealot

Bulelts hurt

[dusty sluice]

I WILL NEVER FORGET THIS

[unreal bone]

Well the build I'm using my laspistol on

is a stealth build

so the pistol will be used up close

[untold mulch]

oh, fair then

[unreal bone]

as a backup

[dusty sluice]

Raking is also fun

[unreal bone]

And I have 60% gunner damage resist from curious

[untold mulch]

True

[stone dome]

i use laspistol on zealot to ding off grenadiers, snipers and gunners

but thats abt it lol

[dusty sluice]

I use revi or kant

Or laspistol

That’s kinda it

Ig agri brauto

[stone dome]

i just dont see the point of a revolver on vet as id use bolter or lasgun over 2b rev and a shotgun over the new rev

[untold mulch]

lmao looking at reddit

[stone dome]

?

wot

[untold mulch]

The kek emote is not good enough to explain my KEK level

[untold mulch]

As I understand

[dusty sluice]

Lmao

[untold mulch]

the new skin has reused assets (duh) but you can still see in the belt the indetation of the skull

[stone dome]

oh wait i see the skull outline on the belt KEK

[untold mulch]

YEP

God, their cosmetic team is so fucking lazy

[stone dome]

i have only bought 1 cosmetic set on release(the krieg looking mf set) and never again until they fix their shit

[deft crystal]

Only two cosmetics i got were krieg and mortis

[untold mulch]

I bought the game at release, and thats it

[deft crystal]

and small things from the extra

[stone dome]

wait i just noticed, the server has, very enthusiastically, 100 strike teams vc's lol

[deft crystal]

I wish there were more challenging penances that gave better cosmetics that were equal to the difficulty of the penance

[untold mulch]

Okay but

[stone dome]

and strike team 69 vc has a winky face, ofcourse

[untold mulch]

How do the sharkie gets the low effort money?

[stone dome]

idk i haven't spent a penny since release

nor has anyone i know

[untold mulch]

Sadly just see the average random match

I see Scion helmet a lot

and is 1400 aquilas with no set

Pay more, for less

[bitter turtle]

I bought a couple krieg

[stone dome]

the new sets are very nice and all, but my bolter irons are still bouncier than anime b0bs

it's been over a year, pls fix anime physics on the bolter

[untold mulch]

GODDAMMIT

[dire olive]

It's not so much the bounce as it is the sudden snap back it does

[torn needle]

Headshots my beloved

[placid portal]

1.6k crits

[placid portal]

Yea the only way to counteract it is to unADS and reaim

[sonic marlin]

whats the vet shovel and what does it do, its a vid about zealot oneshotting stuff with hammer

[untold mulch]

The foldable shovel with Thrust does silly damage

I almost one shot a crusher with mine

[deft bobcat]

Me 2

[late hatch]

heavy hitter stacks + thrust + bromentum

goes hard af

oh, this is vet chat not ogryn

but still

pretty much the same damage

[sharp ember]

ogryn shovel is insane

1 shot like 3 crushers if you have them lined up and have brutal momentum

[late hatch]

its pretty great

[stiff glacier]

Ogryn shovel is fucken amazing

Sweeps hordes and crumps armoured one too

[sonic marlin]

changed the look of my melee, now it has a black blade

[dusty sluice]

Lmfao

Couldn’t make worse bait

[frank ether]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

I'd be all for it but I just don't see it happening at this point

[late hatch]

ive been running some pretty cool weapons recently

[frank ether]

nice kitchen knife

[late hatch]

and the staff with a pmaul head

[stiff glacier]

9000 degree knife

[dusty sluice]

Fs also have it all there

Just don’t want to add it I assume

Might change weapon balance etc

[late hatch]

pretty sure i showed this the other day. this is my fave rev atm

[dusty sluice]

Or make game feel much different

[late hatch]

thing is if they implemented it in game they could let us use sights but limit which parts go with which weapons, which would be better for balance than fully modded

[frank ether]

I'd imagine it would have limitations obviously

you can't just give every gun the helbore bayo can you imagine how busted that would be

[late hatch]

HB iron sights completely stop me from using it unmodded

[urban seal]

Does the no ammo consmption on crits work on recon guns for you guys?

[frank ether]

I'm used to it at this point

[dusty sluice]

Giving a headhunter a infantary las scope would entirely change the weapon

[frank ether]

the thing is

you can make a lot of the irons tolerable by messing with FoV

I'd much rather have a red dot

[late hatch]

yeah i run custom fov

[frank ether]

but yea I just run custom fov to make the irons much more enjoyable to use

and add crosshair remap aswell

[late hatch]

but the holo sights are pretty good, already in the game, why not just let us use them?

[frank ether]

yea Idk

[late hatch]

crosshair remap is so good. the std staff crosshair is infuriating

[frank ether]

I'd also like some clean low magnification scopes aswell

but from what I've seen

the scopes in the files are just disaster

they need some help with those designs

[late hatch]

they changed the way crit chains work so it doesnt work properly on recons

[frank ether]

didn't they make it so crit chains now only work on first hit

first crit*

and not on crit chains

[late hatch]

yeah

[frank ether]

that means

if we get the hellgun

[urban seal]

why tho

[frank ether]

its also gonna scale poorly with it

[dusty sluice]

What are they like?

[urban seal]

my A-10 strats

[frank ether]

overkill magnification with bad peripheral vision

the ones I saw at least

I imagine playing with fov can remedy some of the issues with the scopes though

[dusty sluice]

Is that wc mods custom ones tho?

[frank ether]

might be

honestly I can't tell which ones are original FS designs and which are custom at this point

[dusty sluice]

They are sooooo bad

[frank ether]

and FS never added a weapon with a scope to the game

but here is a misconception

that does not mean they didn't give ''long range'' guns insane magnification

they absolutely did

the default fov for helbores for example, its very very zoomed in

like 40 FOV

[thick flint]

the damn heretic snipers figured out how to put scopes on their lasguns

WHY CANT WE

bozo was dumb enough to also put an incredibly obvious laser attachment onto his gun

imagine snipers without the laser

[sonic marlin]

why can't this game be generous at least once

[frank ether]

they also have better drip than you do

[sonic marlin]

is there some melee tierlist most people agree with?

[thick flint]

well I mean

thats debatable

they are dripped out tho I won't lie

[thick flint]

power swords

and then everything else

[sonic marlin]

i have that and i need something else

im bored

[thick flint]

try chainsword

maybe some shovel action

[late hatch]

new shovel is awesome. both chainswords are too.

[thick flint]

yea

[sonic marlin]

looks good

[thick flint]

chain axe is also kinda aight

I'm still not sold on it tho

[late hatch]

chaxe is pretty much a better thammer

[stiff glacier]

Thats a nice one

Compare to my trancendent drop which got tier 2 blessings with 20% mobility 43% damage and 60% pen

[dusty sluice]

Finesse too low

[stiff glacier]

I would still use it

[sonic marlin]

I wouldn't

need perfect stats

[stiff glacier]

Im not too picky

[dusty sluice]

Finesse is part of why Rashad is good

[dusty sluice]

Need a good roll to hit bps

[dusty sluice]

What lvl are you?

[stiff glacier]

30

[dusty sluice]

Oh

[thick flint]

I miss my infinite cleave psword
I remember just spinning around clearing up everything

[stiff glacier]

Good thing ive got 475 rating mk5 antax axe

With 67% damage and 73 finesse

[sonic marlin]

i got like a lot of stuff thats 360-380 modifiers

[stone dome]

salvageable or nay?

[dusty sluice]

Ehh, I wouldn’t upgrade caxes with stats like that

[dusty sluice]

Nice image

Lmao

[sonic marlin]

idk why they like dat

[dusty sluice]

Kinda bricked

Could be salvageable ig

But not worth it from melk

Atall

[sharp ember]

wouldn’t touch that for melkbucks

[stone dome]

aight, ill just wait for a better one while i continue to use the shotty

i just have 14k melk shekels and no materials

[dusty sluice]

Agri revi is in a bad place currently

[stone dome]

how bad we talking? i just need something to kill maniacs and chargers in rapid succession

[dusty sluice]

No cleave

[stone dome]

shotty just struggles with chargers quite a bit

[dusty sluice]

Just bad compared to zarona

[stone dome]

the reload on the 2b rev tho mmmmmmmmm

[sonic marlin]

whats better than mk6 power sword

[sharp ember]

the agri isn’t bad bad

it’s the zarona that’s zooted out of this galaxy

[stone dome]

shovel

[sharp ember]

the agri still has about +1 body cleave for what it’s worth

[sonic marlin]

which one

[sharp ember]

similar to other agri-pattern guns (braced and infantry autogun)

[stone dome]

yes

[sonic marlin]

[dusty sluice]

Ye

[dusty sluice]

It can’t cleave poxes lmao

Only 1 groaner

It’s funny

[sharp ember]

what the heck

[muted knot]

So how's the new drip ?

[sharp ember]

i could have sworn it had at least a little

but if it only hits 1 groaner, that means it has even less than the default cleave on most guns

[stone dome]

why do i start a war over if a weapon is trash or not every time i open my mouth lol

[dusty sluice]

It hits 2 groaners

That’s the only thing it can hit more than 1 of

[sharp ember]

ok thank god

so it has at least default cleave

1.0 mass

[slow spade]

The price of being a Magos

[dusty sluice]

At least it does boss dmg well

[bitter turtle]

imagine needing to rely on cleave to hit elites/specials

this is your brain on plasma/volver rot

[stiff glacier]

One deage special with revolver

[pliant sentinel]

got a new power sword

higher damage and cleave

gonna put power cycler on it

[tiny summit]

Oh and I want to admit being wrong on the iLas sights.

But still see it as the most non-issue of issues for the other person

[pliant sentinel]

which lasgun is the best

is it the kantreal mk xii?

[tiny summit]

No

[dusty sluice]

1a currently

[pliant sentinel]

so the overclocked one

[tiny summit]

XII has been powercrept by Ia and MG4. XII didn't get nerfed but the others got dmg buffs while retaining their higher fire rates.

Ia can make most of the similar breakpoints as the XII while having a faster fire rate.

[gusty bison]

I assume ur talking about infantry las

[pliant sentinel]

yeah

[gusty bison]

Its either 1a or 4 depending on whether ur using full auto mod or not

[tiny summit]

Can we interest you in a helbore?

[gusty bison]

Also build dependent

[pliant sentinel]

I'm collecting different ones

I have a mk 2 and 3 hellbore

[gusty bison]

But 1a is the more generally accessible and versatile of the two

Dont touch the 12 with a ten foot pole.

[pliant sentinel]

understood

[gusty bison]

Its actually probably among the bottom 6 worst guns in game atm

[tiny summit]

Poor XII. It didn't do anything wrong

[gusty bison]

12 is just in a bad spot of cos thr Vraks 7 and the Helbore 2 and the Bolter

And well

[pliant sentinel]

we need more lasgun skins

[gusty bison]

Every other precision gun

[pliant sentinel]

ong

it's either red, black, blue, or fucking plain

like

tf?

[gusty bison]

Oh also ya tried the Vraks 7 Headhunter Autogun yet?

[pliant sentinel]

no

i got the columnus mk v infantry autogun

and it's fun af

[gusty bison]

You should give the V7 a try

[slow spade]

To be fair, its not like the mk12 got nerfed

Its basically the same since it was released

[gusty bison]

The world got buffed around it

Including enemies

[slow spade]

Indeed

[gusty bison]

And the director

So it got indirectly nerfed basically

[slow spade]

Yeah just saying if its all you got then a MK12 won't let you down

[gusty bison]

At least it aint a recon

Although tbh

[slow spade]

True

[gusty bison]

The Recon 6d is actually solid in the right hands

[old quail]

unfortunately all i have are the left hands

[gusty bison]

Go back to Arco's dungeon Josho