#veteran-class
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it is one of my favorite lawbringer shotgun setups
It's a funny meme on lawbringer
you can use the spread shot with increased cleave to bleed out an entire elite patrol
Trash everywhere else imo
i would rather manstopper + scattershot on the other shotguns
or their specific good blessings
like fullbore for agri shotgun
I was debating which shotgun to use that combo on lol
But might just do it on lawbringer again
making the agri slug cleave is super funny
I was thinking of that
i never use a shotgun without deadshot
But if they ever fix scattershot it's going to be so bad
i tried deadshot is feel not proc many crits
like i spam kantrael fire over and over
deadshot and manstopper is at least 75% crit chance
kantrael fire doesnt really need deadshot
is cleave like poxkiling?
since the direct damage is booty and it's only for applying dot
rather elites?
Maybe I'll roll a manstopper Agri and take it off if they ever fix scattershot
i means it work for zealot when with high crits chance
veteran is around like 50% feeling
It feels pretty consistent with dead shot and scattershot
how was scattershot work again?
+10% crit chance per enemy hit in one shot, up to 50%
so when paired with manstopper, they feed eachother
so long as there's enough targets to hit
Yeah except it's bugged right now and gets procced even if an evemy is not hit
They just need to have been hit if the bullet had enough cleave
Idk if that works lol
No it’s like a ray cast
I think it might just be through enemies
It counts how many enemies you would have hit assuming the shots went through every enemy
Yeah like a ray cast
Up to 5
Yeah
ah i see
At IV it’s up to +60% crit chance for the next shot
U can do some funny things with it on Kantrael
Scattershot + no respite allows u to hit bodyshot scab rager for like
1723 dmg
It's why manstopper on Agri is something I'm seriously considering

Fuck it I'm gonna do it
Cleaving slug memes
Not saying it's a meme because it's bad lol
It's a meme because it's funny
so with lawbringer manstopper? a gimmick?
Also a meme
Manstopper + Scattershot and its usable for that
its not like Recon gun where even the best build is "tolerable"
Idk if lawbringer gets as much value out of manstopper tbh
The special is so weak
And already had some cleave
Isn't the lawbringer special just for bleed memes with flechette
its also good for that
Man I hate mutants
Sometimes if my ping is bad even if I dodge properly I just rubberband into them
Anyone know this Doovi?
No
no
meh
got butthurt in the beginning of match cuz i mentioned he might have a rough time in maelstorm
Yeah that's the best way to use it unless they buff the damage imo
Hey, anyone know what the highest Rating is for a profane (grey) weapon is now?
380 the highest base rating
Same as it ever was
Ah alright, thanks 🙂
Buy for blessing? I mean, it might be better in general than decimator but i might be wrong tbh
Headtaker in general is better than decimator due to the its multistacking being removed and also dropping on a miss
But also, it's tac axe
Unsure if you have enough melkbux to justify spending on a subpar weapon
i think atrox was the meh tac axe among the 3
New brudal kinda sucks for tac axes since they struggle with bruiser breakpoints
rip
They're kinda just
Not in a good spot and need work
But fatshark won't do anything about them
Kinda wish they were knife but even better vs armor or shreds hoarde
somehow a short bladed weapon does better than a handaxe

lads is melk cooking
ive read it only applies on the first enemy hit
Yup. Flechette is pretty meh on kantrael
um ACTUALLY they're the most honorable weapon
explain this then
:^)
seriously tho they're actually pretty fun to use
on zealot at least
They have more synergy on zealot because critmaxxing
brumo works on taxes if you're running shred on it to get crits for peaks of higher damage
but y'know, still eh
but with all the benefits of enabling 0 cooldown ctw spam
which pretty much patched all its weaknesses up when I can ctw into a crusher and dome it for half hp
I will try it again sometime
i ran taxe 4 reskinned as a katana only as a meme but ended up enjoying it a lot
took the flamer to prove I never pulled my gun out once lul
Although I am running stealth
well
if you bring a gun that can kill crushers
you can probably run something that isnt ctw
since i only used taxe and nothing else, i didnt have another answer to crushers lol
My disappointment is immeasurable
but if you just slapped volver in the build it probably fixes that
I run revolver anyway
You know limbsplitter punish you for attacking melee without waiting cooldown full 4 second
The choice of blessings is the primary issue for me
That’s downside
yeah i didnt run limbsplitter
lol
I assume headtaker and uhhh
i was joking when I said i'd take it to simulate unsheathing katana iaijutsu
i ran headtaker bm
i know it doesnt hit oneshot bp but i think it still helps
since you spam so fast with it
lmb
still helps bleed damage into the next target
it doesnt work the way you think it does
its 10% of only the extra damage you get from hitting a weakspot
so suppose
you do 100 damage on a non-weakspot
and 150 on a weakspot
you'd think it increases the whole thing by 10% right?
And 15% weakspot on bm
it doesn't
it calculates the 10% off the 50 bonus damage
so 10% weakspot damage only give syou 5 dmg in that scenario instead of the 15 you'd think you get if you calculated 10% of 150
BM isnt taken for the weakspot bonus damage, just the effect
Why 15% weakspot for bm?
idk what you are asking
why take BM?
its because of the other half of the effect
it bleeds full dmg into the next target on kiling blows on a weakspot
I’m asking why combine perk and bm aren’t worth?
i literally
just explained it
weakspot damage adds very very little
because it does not calculate off the total damage you do
only the bonus damage added on when hitting a weakspot
in practice that is much less than 10%
maybe like 5 or 4%
its also why precision strikes on vet tree doesn't increase your total damage by 30%
So you only aim bm for ignore hitmass on weakspot kill?
because weakspot damage is not calculated off total damage
yes
basically
the weakspot damage is a nice bonus
but the main point is the hitmass ignoring schtick
But it doesn’t do much
you take brutal momentum for the no damage loss on 1 shot kills, it giving a bonus to weak spot is just that
For weakspot damage
do you know what BM does exactly?
even the +30% from the talent tree is like "+5% damage" at most
usually if you cleave, you only cleave a portion of the damage you're dealing into the next target
BM lets you cleave with 100% of your damage
so if you kill a guy with a 700 dmg swing, the next guy also takes 700, and then the next guy after that also takes 700
also, doesn't stop your swing at the first target hit
This new bm is little complex to understand
Ignore hitmass? It is for head/weakspot? Or whole body?
30% weakspot from talent, 25% finesse damage from talent, 25 weak spot from BM and weakspot perk for the ultimate still don't hit the breakpoint weapon
the desccription is poroly worded
to the poitn wher eit is basically just wrong
well
ignoring hitmass is true
but yeah
it ignores up to a certain hitmass (4 dudes)
made small changes
here
You ignore hitmass of up to 4 targets as long as your hitting weakspots and it kills them. This will let you kill 4 targets and hit a 5
left is BM
right is no BM
you can see on the left
even after i kill the first dude
and cleave into the second dude
he also takes 300
and the third dude
ALSO takes 300
it keeps bleeding over the full dmg
as long as you hit weakspot and kill
Okay visualize I could see that
no BM: it stops on the second dude after the initial guy and bleeds only 230 dmg
Makes me wish they'd add more guns
would be hard to keep them unique
if you hit multiple dudes the ones after the first dude take less damage, making cleave damage residual
Is alway land for the head
brutal momentum lets more dudes take max damage provided u kill them w weakspot hits
To make effect
yes only for weakspot skills
you need to hit head yes
I dont care, just give them different damage, fire rate and recoil. I have used almost all weapons in the game currently
so like yuri visualized earlier
it’s like 300 - 200 - 100 - 100 -100 (not actual numbers)
BM caps at 4 kills and will then stop on the 5th target
bm does 300 - 300 - 300 - 300 - 200 if you kill all those enemies with weakspot hits
That’s little okay blessing
Sorry I'm not sure if that means good or bad lol
I remember old bm let you cleave inf like savage sweep
Mid for me
Was good for CC but you still lost cleave damage
It stagger mass horde enemy
So yes lost damage
People said if I remember old bm suck.
I'd say new BM is kinda busted, way better then any damage blessing for hoard clear
For light horde
It won’t work on heavy horde
I means overwhelm numbers like 8-10 of them clipping
It's like uncanny strike. If a weapon has the blessing, you basically should always take it
it works on heavy hordes
Old BM was just "ok I hit a weak spot I will now swing through and stagger everything." New BM is "ok I meet the breakpoint this weapon is amazing"
because that just means you swing twice and kill them all
non-BM weapons have to swing way more than 2x
Or it's "ok I'm 3 damage away from meeting the breakpoint this weapon is bricked" 
5th enemy stick it?
after sliced 4 enemy with bm
I get used to headtaker and slaughter
ok
let me
make a video for you
to show you just how big of a difference there is
That setup is better if there's some elites mixed into the hoard. Pure hoard clear, BM will pretty always be better then any other blessing
ill run BM + HT and HT + Deci (similar to slaughterer)
I’m going meat grinder test myself
I had mod let me test and use weapon and blessing freely
yes im pretty sure im the one that told you lol
but od you even know how to set up the weapon
rashad is built to make sure you can oneshot all trash mobs
its a requirement to make the build work
I know rashed is popular that what I’m going what you means
I set default all stats 80
I’ll just ignore it
you also need unarmored/flak
rashad do be a cool axe
w/e
i made video anyway
HT + Decimator
Very similar blessing to slaughterer, should even be better in this case since there's no way I miss
HT + BM
Because you either:
- Didn't build it properly
- Not hitting their head
That's why I was just gojnna make the video
Just watch the video I made 
Whats the preferable lasgun on a vet?
you mean the basic ones right
not helbore or whatever
1 or 4
Do they have like a archetype name? Las rifle i guess. And yeah thx.
@bitter turtle okay the rashad killing faster than chainaxe
these two
there are other lasgun types that are good
helbore 1/2 are amazing melee weapons with a gun attached
laspistol is supposedly good but i hate it lul
Brother, what in holy chungus are those lasgun preview images?! Im guessing its mods?
the bubba’d lasguns
yeah, thanks. Just shocked that those gun attachment models are even in the game. I dont think we have them in the actual game so im guessing they just in the files.
the gunblade?
looks like a laser musket
Fuck man, i might have to start downloading mods! The fuck is this shit !
Has a damn scope
Gotta get the lever action lasgun
the scopes are functional too
Man, this does make me depressed that all this stuff is just sitting there 😦
Not in the actual game.
And i remember getting shunned by the community manager for even suggesting weapon customization.
it gets even better
What in borderlands 2 is that?!#
Dude is close to bringing T'au weaponry to Darktide
still my fav
Can you get banned for having this mod or nah?
no lol
Fatshark reps are in the server with the mod
pffft, well i know what im doing first thing tomorrow lol
nope
As far as I'm aware there are no mods n nexus that can get you banned
It's clientside only anyway, but I heard it sometimes causes stuttering ?
Yeah, or problems taking inputs into account
it's all hearsay on my part, mind you
Heresy? 
Wait, because this is clientside you can still play online with this weapon customization mod right?
Probably a good chance your isp is doing something funky
nope
the game will crash slightly more often
but that's not the mods fault
Yes
its because fatshark has a memory leak
so the mods add more memory usage and hits the limit a bit sooner
idk when they fixing that
what's downside for rashad axe?
none
its one of the best melee weapons period
kills all armor types, does insane boss damage, amazing horde clear
i just invested chainaxe
psword kills armor faster but has lower mobility
but they';re competitive against each other
it means others won't see it
its special attack COULD be a little faster? lol not any big problems with rashad
Yeah but i was thinking maybe the game has some sort of anti modding multiplayer thing. Idk
I turned my shovel into 1 hand hammer
my power sword
I used the Evicerator teeth as the blade for mine
this?
yes
That looks like a zipper
Dumb opinion: Decapitator is kinda cool
Wat
Yzah

I do not know, I will find decapitator and put it on my rashad
the fucking rashad is meta
ye
mk4 is imo my fav
why are you doing heavy on combat axe?
The new chainaxe destroys elites / specs / bosses, but is really bad at trash mob
crowd control : /
im looking message history not a single comparison chainaxe and rashad
maybe my melee weapon were pick on single target elite
i didn't remember they weren't use for crowd control
Man
since graia already does crowd control
Graia brauto?
yes
Intriguing
Had the same build yeah
M240 still in action
and i dont have it
im a big shooter and i loving it
ay man if it ain't broke don't fix it
Dakka is love, dakka is life
theres dilemma about melee weapon picking decide on rashad or chainaxe
claw
already had on other loadout
fun weapon
Power-Shovel
mrow
What the flipnarp
i am addicted to knife mobility & i can't go back
lol
I'm going to send scrap code to hadron
goober
i haven't use this weapon for while
But think about all that raw, unfettered reload speed she's given you.
me when i send hadron a 20392830839830173028392739274 zetabyte zip bomb
brb contacting the Dark Mechanicus for 7000 petabytes of Nurgle feet pics
WHERE
I mean
That's a lot of feet pics
Careful, Peta's gonna call down an exterminatus on us and the horse

And also the neighbors dog for some reason
damn i didn't knew peta was also the IRS
i didnt know the IRS was in vet chat
melk selling this
whos the dude that loves knives
First target a bit low
does first target matter for single target dps
ye
yeah it changes the actual damage stat of the weapon and gives a multiplier to the damage to the first target as well
sunrise love the knife
A knifemaxxer
knifemaxxer
it is
the most important stat
for single target dps
how is the new chainsword
melk threw this at me
figured i might as well
real talk, does the plasma gun thing that lets it fire through walls ACTUALLY come in handy often?
yea
Use wrath instead of savage sweep
oh right
this things swings are literally all vertical lmao
Thin cover, yes, comes helpful vs gunner waves often
Concrete stuff, usually not that impactful
I hate the moveset so much
Rampage + wrath on it apparently has one of the best poxwalker clear speeds in the game
But yea I think if I’m gonna focus on horde clear speeds bruiser are way more important
Idk how accurate this actually to actual gameplay
This is 100 horde enemies (50 poxwalker + 50 groaner)
Most of them are done with zealot
can someone explain the rashad to me
all strikedowns & overheads right? so why does brutal momentum matter
and how is it good at horde clear
it clears fast
as for the swing pattern
its "good enough" basically
Light attacks can carry brutal momentum and kill 4 bruisers in 1 hit
Most melee weapons struggle against waves of bruisers due to their higher individual mass & higher health as well as better armor
the efirst two lights are diagonal swings
as long as you angle them right you can probably clip at least a few bruisers in the head
the 3rd swing is a pure horizontal
which is nice
Most melee weapons don’t compete that well against “kill 4 horde enemies every swing”
However you have to min-max really hard for the bruiser breakpoints
Because brutal momentum doesn’t work for weakpoint hits, only weakpoint kills
Gotcha
YEah I enjoy it on power sword
Maybe I'll give it a shot if I can ever go back from knife mobility
However once you do get the bruiser 1HS breakpoints, you have basically top 2 strongest melee weapons for veteran
It trivializes hordes
And if you build talents for it, can deal with both crushers & maulers pretty well
But it is something you have to dedicate a ton of time & resources to build a good one
Ah yeah I gotta build a good knife first lol.
But I'll add it to my shop filters to see if a decent one pops up
what's the build
headtaker, brutal momentum, max damage...
25% armored, carapace?
It does, but right now if you use VOC with professional voice it's gonna sound normal for your teammates
Perfect optimal is
Unarmored + flak
BM + headtaker
Need high rolls in dmg, penetration, finesse and first target (dmg card 253 or higher)
Mobility 51% or higher
But besides that it does modulate your voice
thx
Unarmored is basically must-have if you don’t want to spend an ungodly amount of talent points to get scab bruiser 1HS
this is long ago
wave of scab brusier are in auric? or just hi-intensity?
i remembered there was wave of scab mauler and brusiner combine
was it on high-intensity?
I can’t quite tell their spawn ratio but they can make a poxwalker horde significantly more time consuming because of their higher mass, higher health & better armor
so the only thing not modulated is the VOC ultimate voice lines?
oh for teammates ok
whats best vet melee?
They said rashad or mk6 powersword being spot on competing
Since rashad with specific blessing do good melee on veteran they said
Only for Professional
Ya probably Rashad or mk6 Power Sword if you have the blessings for em
Both need brutal momentum
That’s make sunder defeat it purpose
Mk6 power sword is so nice
Wrong
Wat
Wrong. I have no retort or countering argument.

I'm telling Reddit on you 😡
COMBAT BLADE
LACERATE
FLESH TEARER
which mark of combat blade do people like
i am like 3 games away from not trying to get the 90% accuracy penance
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
Listen to this guy. I think he likes knives
'knifemaxxer' 
REEEEEE THE KNIFE IS THE WEAPON
FOR MEEEEEE
THE MARK 3 GOOD FOR ELITES
MARK WHATEVER GOOD FOR CHAFF
he will knife
BOTH FILL BOTH ROLES JUST FINE THO
USE FUCKING UNCANNY STRIKE
THE REST IS UP TO YOU
well done parabellum
what being in London feels like
new patch today?
IF YOU USE MERCY KILLER COMBO IT WITH SERRATED
what did they do
FIXED SOME "RARE CRASHES" SO NOTHING ACTUALLY
HEY GUYS WE FIXED SOME RARE BUGS THAT EXISTED TRUST US THEY WERE REAL BUT NOW THEYRE FIXED
EEEERRRRRUUUGUGUGUG
I need to get a job at fucking fatshark so I can sit in my cubicle all day with my feet propped up over my pc
i couldnt even get into a game the last 2 times i tried to play
just got unable to join or kick to char select over and over
Fixed bugs noone cared about and fixed some cosmetics
Going hibernation
go scan some trash cans and dirty mattresses for demon juices
Why
Data juices for Techpriest
Because mk13g has no easy access for a vanguard heavy and needs to spam light atks, which don’t have high enough cleave to hit more than 2 scab bruisers to activate rampage for dmg boost
introducing our Spring Collection from FashionTide
Now with 100% more silk and fleece
are they 2900? if yes not interested
Don't tell me this is real

still no scions...
Cartel
Dont worry they're only $15 each, totally worth
let me make a reddit post UwU
wait its legit?
idk what you mean by legit but you can get it as a mod
and see it in game
I mean, is it a Datamine?
Skin rotation is tomorrow
11:00 AM Sweden Time
twice a week every thursday
no it's for the drip mod
Oh I know
basically it lets you change the pallet
I thought for a second this was real
im trying to explain to bronx

😄

I mean would you consider buying it?
No
based 
my bad
Just completed one helluva crazy carry
sir this is vet chat
There was a vet in my group

i really want the vox strap

not ironically, that vox strap (or variant thereof) is likely to be a penance cosmetic for whenever fatshark get around to making penance cosmetics for the third "type" of each class
not sure if they'd ever bother adding more REDACTED penances though, and which is the only source of inquisition-themed gear atm
Honestly I thought the redacted penances were just the way FS remove the season 1 penances
Or well put them on the side burner
Since only some of those can only be done in pubs
some of them were stupidly disruptive for regular play, hence moving them out
Third type?
I have ltitle doubt there won't be a set 3, MAYBE even with the penances we see on the front of the game
the word isn't coming to me
for Veteran as an example, we have inquisition-themed Sharpshooter gear already, in the files is Squad Leader / Voice of Command cosmetics (including inquisition-themed stuff), but we don't have one for Commando / Infil vet
all the other classes are like that too
I see
basically sub classes originally get penances
But due to the backlash, I'm guessing they either rework new penances from the ground up or delay it to rebalances
Hmm, would penance set 2 be closer to infil?
Mmm, the now-regular penances are more just the natural progression from of our rejects as we work our way up the levels of trust
they're not inquisition-themed in any case, no red and black
Because you can only change up to 2 properties on your items, and it seems you already changed the perks, ergo blessing changes can no longer commence
Ah thats a bugger, no worries. Thank you stranger!!
Try to make meaningful changes, preferably with a point of reference of what you would like to accomplish with a certain item, I suppose is the way to go about it
im attempting to gain weapons that are semi decent at the very least so i can move onto damnation missions as ive been struggling with them
You’ll get only really want to change stuff when you get them to gold
the good ol damnation plasteel farm grindset trying to make optimized weapons
Damnnation qp plasteel farm
You either get 400
Or 700+
i suggest you work for a decent c5 and ps mk6 with power cycler 4. preferred perks are maniac and flak. but you dont have to get a perfect weapon to do damnation
Damnation with greys and no talents is very fun
he said he is struggling to get into damn, not that he is looking for more challenge
Ye ik
When I try roll bad things I always end up getting fine 365+
It’s so annoying
And when I want good rolls
I get 330<
these are my rec weapons for going into damnation
not quite perfect, but pretty good
Bm or sunder would be better than slaughterer tbh
i dont own a lot of blessing coz i cbf with the trash system tbh
Ah, fairr
mood
I have bm iv but my psword has sunder locked
This is my funny sword
Also how much extra cleave is sunder?
IIRC it makes it so any enemy hit by the swing has the fourth amount of cleave mass they normally have
And the swings don’t pause on hitting Carapace armour parts
Oh
So..,
That’s cool
that’s a lot of potential cleave
Might switch maniacs to Cara
I wouldn’t miss Maniacs too hard, and Cara perk is nice for more consistent combos on Mauler/Crusher
I’ll test with loadout config later
When I can be bothered
Crit dmg is a dead perk imo
What would you recommend in replacement?
Flak or maniacs
For the chainsword would flak and maniacs work?
Flak maniac and unyielding (if bloodletter) are what I mostly run for chsword
Also if I’m correct new chsword struggles to hit 3 hit most swings
Not sure tho
When in doubt, bring the maniflak out
Mean
Wh
Wh
Anyone have tips on a decent skill tree for veteran? uncertain if half of the old youtube vids i see are even valid anymore
What you want to use it for?
(Weapons)
Chainsword and either the autoguns or pistol perhaps
dont really use the bolter anymore since its ammo capac is painful when you play with ammunition hoovers
Most veteran builds tend to skim on talents early in the tree to begin investing talents later in the tree.
Talents later tend to be stronger then talents in the early to mid part.
I got this 377 as my first roll from brunt and hadron didn’t totally shit it up. The emperor protects
i will steal this photo as a chainsword goal
Doesn’t the new chsword struggle to make use of rampage and ss compared to the old one?
It’s a good chainsword but I’m still leaning on the psword side of things, I was in auric qp and my whole team died it was just me
And there was a lot of armor
Psword would have made quick work of them tbh
Honestly idk much abt the distinction between the two variants, I just know the old one has heavy attacks for cc
Last time that happened to me I was running lawby and dclaw lol
This one is better for single target damage for sure
I’m gonna roll for a good csword tmrw I probably won’t be as lucky tho
If I’m not stupid the old chsword might have higher cleave on its lights
I probably am tho
I think it’s the inverse, because the old chainsword actually does the same amt of damage for heavy and light attacks
So if that were the case heavy attacks would be totally useless
Oh interesting
I’ve noticed the new one sometimes struggles to proc ss or rampage on its light, but the old seems to have a easier time
Also I think it has better ADM on heavy
So while the damage is the same
on practice it does a bit more
This is about as typical as a veteran build would look.
I get it with Wrath easily
But you need wrath for New Csword
if you want to proc Rampage when you need it
Ah
I personally like that Csword, but is certainly weird in design
Ehhhhh
No kraks
and no grenade regen
I have good luck with rolls in this game, so I’m gonna try again hopefully my next roll is decent
I would sacrifice long shot for the subnode on tag
that regens toughness and stamina
Is very comfy
wait nvm
Ye longshot is defintely the one that gets cut here depending on choices.
VoC

I pay the tax man for Infiltrate privileges 
I like the type of character that pops in and out of combat
Frag grenades are more versatile, also dont have a point tax when getting to survivalist.
Frag nade is very good
Pop 1-2 on your feet as panic button
Infiltrate I can do clutch revives with it
Underthrow it, it won't break stealth
What i would run imo
You can drop rending depending on what your running
What I run with plasma gun
Field improv give or take depends on if there’s another vet with it
Oh ye I forgot about field improv
If another vet takes field improv I’d take the 8 stacks of focus target
field improv would be nice if I had a point to spare for it
I switch between demo team and field improv
From experience it just doesn't come as important as grenade regen talents
what I like about it is the toughness regen and the grenade regen perks though
Its just that communicating that you have it with your team is just not happening realistically
I just realized I have 600+ hours and zealot and I have only once used stun nades
I’ve also never used smokes
stun nade is guaranteed revives
smoke well.. I think
I used it like a handful of times
Like a few games in P13 and after they buffed duration I tried it again for two games in the new carnival maps
I need to run them for that stupid sniper penance
Ffs
Oh and kill 40 in 10 secs
they're not even half bad
Also one of the penances is bugged for me :(
So I can’t get funny hat
maybe a bit underrated now due to the amount of CC spam in the game
yeah + kraks are obv good but not required if you're a responsible adult and know how to fight ogryns with other tools
Flame nades just seem better
depends on what your build needs
Ye
frag and krak all depend on what weapons you use
The kill mutant while dashing
flame carpet can be stronger but stuns still save games and sometimes you gotta take them for point economy
I like using the catachan mk IV sword so I take krak grenades unless I use a bolter
Flame is better at killing chaff
Ye
But flame doesnt really drop elites all that fast
stunning the entire horde during a trainwreck does indeed save games
it does if you chastise ult during it lol
kekw thats smart
They are both very good. If you want to stop something RIGHT NOW stunstorms are better. Example: elite spawns on twins hard mode.
your teammates can help with it too
most are too braindead for it
but as a vet you can just throw a frag to push them back in there
or as ogryn literally anything you do stuns things lmao
psyker smite goes without saying
I guess I understand why ppl think stun nades are underwhelming
with the amount of CC easily available
Throwing knives ❤️
Wait wrong clip
knives with flamer whips ass
Nades require the least amount of commitment to CCing.
Just throw em and do your thing
It’s also the fact that I have to grab some skills I find useless (unless playing matyr) to grab the grenades I don’t enjoy lmao
Or
Stunstrom could use being quick cast
on the other hand, fire nade route has no toughness generators. No, VoT doesn't count.
Reddit's at it again
Manstopper knifes :3
Revive voc is building to fail
“You don’t have the guts to play with randoms” sorry I have friends I like to play with
Lucky
Not to mention they probably wouldn't be going down as much if their toughness was covered in pee more
:(
I play with random's and take the swingness in stride
either clutch hours
or damn we killteam hours 😎
You’re in do damage don’t die as well just use lfg there if you want to play with some competent folk
I have friends and I'd rather play with randoms
I am trying to “get” irl friends to start dt lol
They fucked up so bad at release
Aurics is a no go with some people
Preference is preference but why? Friends not up to speed or they just don’t have the game?
They are just not good yet.
Good luck, the first two tiers of difficulties either kills my friends interest in tide game or they keep it pushing
They don't play a lot.
I like how ppl defend talents like its their personality
“hurr durr Vermintide gameplay is just w + m1” meanwhile they wipe on champion
They defend their opinions.
Ehhh, ik a lot of people prefer not having someone sitting muted
Have one friend who enjoys the game but is very busy
Its reddit
They do that a lot
is your opinion threatened when you hear me trashing some gameplay element you like
Just communicate using text to the best of your ability I don’t think anyone minds, no mic or anxiety or what?
Of course not, because you are wrong and I am right 
I have dear friend who insists on taking that VoC revive node and when I say that its suboptimal he just says he doesn't give a shit and he likes it
and Its like, fine lmao
but its funny when ppl feel insulted over it
My friends uses the node, because his lazy ass doesn't want to bother reviving people 
Just yell
It's an ego problem.
yeah pretty much
People have so much ego problems and then are the most little shit on the forum, is so amusing
Just not confident about my voice
Saying that some talent is not good is same as telling them that they are wrong and stupid.
I mean its an issue that can happen with people from any skill level
in their head
If they take it that way
They are wrong and stupid 
or any playtime
No one would even mind and remember to utilize command presence when speaking
like you have zealot players insisting the game is literally unplayable without thy wrath be swift or vets saying they can't aim straight without supp immunity
Especially when communicating orders to the team
Already with tag system we have you can say enough
It's me, I'm the zealot players.
I do not use VC ingame because I know how annoying it is to me when someone does 
It's just not the same.
I mean I take thy wrath on like, nearly every zealot build because its dummy strong and on the way for me regardless
what was thy wrath?
I just don't think melee is ''impossible'' without stun immunity
oh
Or someone who is eating and doesn’t know their mic is unmuted
and they play fine albeit never reaching the highs zealot do
What was grenade tinkerer? who gave us stun immunity? 
Oh god those
They generally don't have the same playstyle
Or someone singing in another language
I mean between relic zealot and voc veteran I think both are equally silly
The classic Spanish yapper
but fury of the faithful and the claok is where zealot starts to like, scale up and up and up
I once had a french who non-stop talked and mumbled on VC
and clearly was high out of his mind
yes
probably high lmao
You talking about disc vc or game chat?
I have yet to find a Spanish speaker ingame
game chat
Ah (same)
What servers you on?
Its hard to explain, but the way the words were slurred and all that
Western Europe
I live in Spain 
I see
I only speak English lol
Depends on day, I think more in English that in Spanish
Well bri ish
Is a weird thing to be through the day and realize all my internal dialogue all day has been in English 
now it dropped
And just got it on a eg
happens
THE SECOND TIME THIS WEEK
I live in Spain without the s
Mood 🫂
Without the a :3
For some reason my calves feel like any small movement will cause them to cramp up. I’m hydrated
:spingryn:
This is my 9/11
what
Yea they hurt
Just imagine how awful it’d be if you got caught by a trapper irl and your leg wanted to start cramping up
I’d turn to chaos too
Real?
Sounds like heretic talk
Everyone died :(
i'm sorry to hear that 😢


Auric lobbies at 4 am be like
I had some breathing asmr sounding voice chatter
i played an auric this morning with a loner speed run zealot on ascension 31
thought he was doing gods work getting to checkpoints and muzzling the director while being dead
while we had to fight 3 bosses and deal with his one failed run in the middle
Yeah it seems auric has a lot of the rush people
Never see them when I'm quickplaying damnations in standard
I was playing w a bunch of south americans a little bit ago- they were pretty good but they never did stop talking in spanish at any point.
As I don't speak a word of spanish or portugese I was very lost
Anyone know if the modding discord is still up?
considering i see this
gonna make a guess of maybe
ayoooo shop finally has something good
just need to hit 1/3, although that reload speed hurts
worth it
I have another one with 74% reload its 2.40s this one is 2.52s its not awful
ikr better sell it
Ah yes now introducing grandmas wallpaper
You call it grandma wallpaper, I call it "nostalgic".
Man I’m gonna be running around doing a mission and I’m just gonna find them in the back of the Storm Raptor baking cookies
But in all seriousness i really hope that’s not gonna be in the store
when seconds count, your reload is milliseconds away!
i wonder what the translates to per bullet on the reload
it’s the agri revolver, which uses a full speedloader
so reload time is even less of a problem 
dont even need a reload perk with that one
It would matter on something like bolter maybe
but even on bolter like, vet has so many ways to mitigate reload time
this is where I would brag about exec reload if I still had it
I don’t even use the reload perk when using the revolver (either variant) you really don’t need it if you reload after each elite kill. Which is usually all I use that weapon for.
what do you use for melee?
I run the combat knife if I’m using the revolver.
and stealth :>
I just tried heavy laspistol for lulz x.x
It’s not terrible. I use don’t like it personally.
feels like han solo from battlefront 😛
the issue is those histg damnation packs of like 50 elites
why i use the reload talent
Just tested out the Weapon Customization mod for the first time
It's got a couple issues
That has happened with every sight that isn't a scope. Not sure how it's happening, frankly
i've never seen a conflict like that in the customization mod before
That looks like a mod missing or one messing with this one
that or the latest version broke it
Only one that should even interact with my weapons is the Customization mod
I've got the Loader, the Framework, animation events, scoreboard, buy until, Direct To Hadron, Volley Fire, the Melk Mods, Book Finder, and Customization
It's weird because the dedicated scopes work
Just not the other sights. Kind of annoying because I want the better situational awareness the other sights give. The extra magnification's nice, but really I just want a better crosshair than bad iron-sights when I ADS.
reinstall the mod
i never had that problem
might be also a inferior version you have. i had same issue
I installed it 10 min ago from Nexus, so I don't think I'm out of date. Didn't get the plugin, probably will now.
Also maybe post on the modding discord to see what could have caused it
same
maybe try that version
Already dropped a bug report, don't have the modding Discord


