#veteran-class

1 messages Ā· Page 557 of 1

wary galleon
#

its like an ork in a human skin

finite imp
#

Fingers 2 big

wary galleon
#

they love shooting so much that they added burst fire into the ripperguns otherwise they would just empty them too fast because they love the sound

#

its hilarious

finite imp
#

A twin stubber is better in the hands of an ogryn than a bolter anyhow

wary galleon
#

its also satisfying to just shoot everything everywhere all the time :omea

pliant sentinel
#

if I'm not mistaken, the stubber is basically an M2HB isn't it?

#

The design shows a lot of similarities

#

especially with the receiver and body

wary galleon
#

its very much an inspiration lol

image.png
pliant sentinel
#

wicked

#

O/U twin linked M2s are cancer to the eyes

untold mulch
#

Eh yes but Gunluggers are a thing

#

and they are given Heavy Bolters often enough to be stated

#

probably with a burst limiter

pliant sentinel
#

Sad to see how bad the plasma rifle performs

untold mulch
#

Plasma Gun?

#

in this game?

pliant sentinel
#

Ye

untold mulch
#

Is S tier

pliant sentinel
#

I haven't had any luck with it

#

I'm probably not using it right

untold mulch
#

Once you have one with good stats, get the correct perks, and only normal fire

#

overcharge is trash

#

normal shot will sweep to a point is p`robably getting nerfed

soft blade
untold mulch
tiny summit
untold mulch
#

But that, Plasma is S tier

#

right now

pliant sentinel
#

I'm an all rounder build so I do better with lasguns

#

mainly my mk7 recon with burn stack

#

and dum dum

tiny summit
#

Play on PC?

untold mulch
#

I need full auto, and I the gun I like the most using is Recon, but on Damnation using Recon feels like I am trolling people

pliant sentinel
untold mulch
#

So that + content drought, I just soft dropped the game

pliant sentinel
#

I usually don't play above malice

untold mulch
#

uninstall if they don't announce anything this week

tiny summit
#

Full auto mod with MG4 or Mk2 Laspistol are better recons

untold mulch
#

In Malice there is no real issue to using Recon, you underperform compared to other guns

#

but not in what I personally consider trolling

pliant sentinel
#

I've been enjoying the hellbore

untold mulch
#

Heresy and Damnation though, I see a Recon user and pain wracks my cursed body

wary galleon
pliant sentinel
#

mk3 hellbore is decent but my god that bayonet swing is slow as fuck

wary galleon
#

WEN HELLGUN LMG FATSHARK!?!??

untold mulch
wary galleon
#

WEHN!?!?!?!!

untold mulch
#

YES I NEED IT

wary galleon
untold mulch
lavish dove
untold mulch
#

We already explained KEKW_ogryn

pliant sentinel
#

I just suck at using the plas apparently

tiny summit
untold mulch
#

not level 30 yet I assume?

tiny summit
#

Not even

pliant sentinel
#

Au contraire

tiny summit
#

Plasma at malice is gonna be good really no matter what

lavish dove
#

i still need to roll a plasma with gets hot

untold mulch
#

Then just need to rethink the build or how you using it

untold mulch
pliant sentinel
#

am going to try the mk 2 hellbore

untold mulch
#

I need either a Recon buff or gib me that Hellgun

#

I need las in full auto variant

pliant sentinel
untold mulch
#

As I stated before

pliant sentinel
#

closest we'll get

untold mulch
#

In Damnation Recon is shit

untold mulch
pliant sentinel
#

maybe

#

remind me

#

oh

#

yeah

#

that would be nice

trim steppe
#

I wil forever cherish the 5 days when recon was decent

tiny summit
#

Pour one out

untold mulch
untold mulch
untold mulch
#

lasgun mg42

pliant sentinel
#

MG3

#

More modern imo

untold mulch
#

I like the classics but fair

pliant sentinel
#

Old school german ammunition is hard to find these days

#

MG3 is the 42 but better

untold mulch
#

Beautiful

safe imp
#

but 42 is bigger than 3 loregryn

pliant sentinel
#

-_-

#

Idk how germans name shit

#

they're weird like that

#

americans are too

crude ermine
#

The1984mcdonalds handgun

untold mulch
#

MG42 I can guess year of introduction

#

MG3 I am clueless

atomic cave
atomic cave
#

i think

untold mulch
atomic cave
#

i know

pliant sentinel
atomic cave
#

but the warhammer mod is peak

untold mulch
#

Noted

atomic cave
#

on men of war assault squad 2

untold mulch
pliant sentinel
#

the hellgun would be nice though

#

as well as more fucking guard cosmetics

#

we need more helmets

#

and backpacks

atomic cave
#

i want a kasrkin cosmetic

#

best choice

pliant sentinel
#

Tbh I just want the full moebian helmet

atomic cave
#

kasrkin helmet would go hard

pliant sentinel
#

fuck that

#

whole armor set

hoary stratus
#

yea I don't mistake teammates for enemies enough

untold mulch
#

I wish the weapon first for play instead of cosmetics tbh

pliant sentinel
#

chonky shocktrooper go brrr

atomic cave
#

ye

#

we need more weapons

slow spade
pliant sentinel
#

I'm on the hellgun bandwagon now

slow spade
#

Mag dump your local psyker

pliant sentinel
slow spade
#

:p

atomic cave
#

after playing rouge trador

#

i want a storm bolter

#

apprently there are some small enough for your default guardsman

untold mulch
pliant sentinel
#

when the kriegsman gets their hands on a storm bolter

midnight totem
#

This is 40k

#

If you are rich, famous, or powerful enough

#

You can have almost anything

pliant sentinel
#

the Emperor will handle the recoil for me

midnight totem
#

Commissary Yarrick uses a fucking ork power claw and modified stormbolter

pulsar drift
#

Any build recommendations for Columbus V? Thinking between stance and shout šŸ˜¦

pliant sentinel
#

stance

#

it's very handy

pulsar drift
#

Saw ppl using it to farm huge dmg but I struggled to do

pliant sentinel
#

it's good to farm damage and highlight enemies

pulsar drift
#

So I have to go for on slaughter and stance right?

pliant sentinel
#

yup

atomic cave
#

the auto gun?

pulsar drift
#

For key stones go for the yellow highlight?

atomic cave
#

i got a build

#

ill send you after

pliant sentinel
#

what's the best autogun rn?

pulsar drift
#

Thatā€™s great help

#

I know itā€™s BR agipinnna for zealot

clear narwhal
pulsar drift
#

Saw ppl using Columbus V a lot recently on vets

pliant sentinel
#

burst?

#

or full auto?

clear narwhal
#

Full auto

pliant sentinel
#

nifty

#

I'll have to invest

clear narwhal
#

I would say the Braced Agripinaa is probably second best

pulsar drift
#

Kinda getting tried on plasma gun

clear narwhal
#

I'm personally a big fan of it

pulsar drift
#

Honestly think bolt gun itā€™s more fun

pliant sentinel
#

I'm getting tired of lasguns lol

#

I feel ya

clear narwhal
#

I'm looking to pick up a Graia Braced auto and a plasma gun

pulsar drift
#

My old nostalgia is attacking me again

#

Plasmas gun and power sword gets super boring after hundred hoursā€¦

pliant sentinel
#

I love my power sword

pulsar drift
#

Been using it since plasmas gun got buffed

#

For now I donā€™t know I feel like itā€™s kinda brain dead weapon which u just left spam everything and donā€™t even need to aim accurately šŸ˜„ used to be great when I got my first

#

Guess itā€™s time to swap to something else

pliant sentinel
#

mk 6 with the extra charge

#

lol

pulsar drift
#

Yea power sword too

#

I own like 7 power swords each with different blessing combo

pliant sentinel
#

I only have two

#

mk 3 and mk 6

#

I use the 6 the most

pulsar drift
#

PC4 plus Sunder, BM, slaughter, rampage,

#

šŸ˜¦ even different perks too

#

I wish we could have more power weapons but unfortunately fat shark this year has beenā€¦less progressed

stiff glacier
#

Powerfist on vet would be my dream melee

#

And force axe on psyker

serene bough
#

all i really want is the melta

soft blade
#

we have melta at home (kantrael shotty)

rain flower
#

any recommendations on how to salvage this thing?

image.png
mystic belfry
soft blade
#

replace devastating strike

#

bloodletter is p good

lusty jetty
#

This seems worthwhile if only for Thrust IV - thoughts?

Untitled-1.png
tall torrent
lusty jetty
#

Depending on how I like the attack pattern, I would either keep it and change melee crit dmg to Carapace,

Or I would just take Thrust to put on this:

Untitled-2.png
jaunty oxide
#

There isn't anything like the Ogryns Ogrynomicon, for Veterans is there?

soft blade
#

nop

jaunty oxide
#

F

inland orchid
#

Vetā€™s a Swiss Army knife of a operator, shortest guide would be way too long imo KEKW_ogryn

soft blade
#

pretty much

#

and thereā€™s very little consensus on most things

jaunty oxide
#

I've been using a Weapon Specialist build and only know somewhat what I'm doing. Was hoping to refine

tall torrent
soft blade
#

thereā€™s a reason vet chat is always arguing

jaunty oxide
#

Lol

white minnow
#

why would i write a guide when i can just argue on discord

stiff glacier
#

Why argue when i can claim to have superior take and ignore others?

#

Antax mk5 is simply best melee kappa

wanton dawn
#

Tbf it might be necessary to contribute to a vet guide someday, otherwise ppl will keep linking angry youtuber as reference

soft blade
#

true

stiff glacier
#

Create 3 seperate guides

hearty panther
#

veterans arent worth guiding youre just cannon fodder for our glorious zealots

iron marten
#

The 3 schools of vet

tall torrent
stiff glacier
#

Zealots speedrunning to get bonked by crushers

jaunty oxide
#

I guess that's the upside of Ogryn having such a limited pool of weapons

soft blade
#

wielding the holy power of knife heavy acceleration to run smack into a DH and die

stiff glacier
#

I had game today with zealot triggering 2 dh during same mission

tall torrent
atomic zephyr
#

I picked up my Rashad again and that shit is still surprisingly good, may have to use it more just for how satisfying the sfx are

stiff glacier
jaunty oxide
#

I played my vet pretty consistently months ago but I realize I'm only good with the basic Lasguns and combat knife lol every time I take out the plasma rifle or autoguns I get wrecked.

#

On the other hand, I really enjoy both those weapons lol

sharp ember
#

i canā€™t be karked to make a substantive vet melee weapon primer that wouldnā€™t look like a ā¬‡ļøāž”ļøā¬…ļøā†˜ļø fighting game movelist

stiff glacier
#

Ive been switching between zarona/power sword sergeant, executioner stance shotgun and autopistol stealth melee

soft blade
#

hit the crusher with electric wind god fist

stiff glacier
#

I dont even know any melee combos

#

I just slap m1 with occasional charged attack or push strike

sharp ember
#

yeah there isnā€™t much beyond learning how to manipulate your combo and seeing what flows into what

#

and finding the mark that clicks with you

hearty panther
#

mk7 shovel is beautiful on that note

stiff glacier
#

With powersword its literally activate, m1, backdash, repeat until horde ends

sharp ember
#

I did it for guns because they can have hidden quirks or traits that arenā€™t readily apparent

#

like bolt rounds donā€™t blow up if youā€™re too close

#

I am a big fan of the mk7 shovel moveset

#

the push attack triple chop is funny

stiff glacier
#

I like the classic sapper shovel

midnight crane
stiff glacier
#

Decent vs armour on normals and charged good for clearing pox walkers

acoustic sapphire
#

I'm running Standard Issue Sapper Shovel with Plasma Gun right now. Sometimes I swap out for the chain axe.

stiff glacier
#

Sapper shovel with autopistol

midnight crane
#

Ah autopistol, it's been a while since I hear that thing

#

Swapped them out for shotguns then never looked back

sharp ember
midnight crane
#

Yeah, but one tap with a boltgun that explodes is enough to get a reaper in cover, not the same case if you're close to it

sharp ember
#

Bolter and plasma kills have a sort of suppression AoE on kill too, but thatā€™s a little bit different from standard suppression

sharp ember
midnight crane
#

The thing they do where they raise their hand up and look away

sharp ember
#

oh yeah thatā€™ll be suppression then

stiff glacier
#

Autopistol is mostly a suppression tool. Shame its only lethal proper vs pox walkers

sharp ember
#

funky

crude ermine
#

Kong

stiff glacier
#

But hey charges my melee with couple rattled pox walkies

#

And after melee streak it can brrt trapper or something

hearty panther
#

shredder actually has really impressive maniac dps

#

its niche is mowing down everything between you and the flamer/trapper/rager and suppressing or knocking down everything else

near sable
#

mkiv lasgun with +179% maniac modifier

stiff glacier
#

Yea ive noticed shredder does well vs trappers

#

Altho mine has +25 vs infested

#

Tho mine has shitty blessings

jaunty oxide
#

Infested isn't too bad

#

Could be worse

#

Also helps vs poxhounds

crude ermine
#

Could be groaners

finite imp
#

approached hadron with a 380 knife" What is the most you ever lost on a coin toss?"

crude ermine
#

I lost my pants, my house, a guilty gear, 20 packs of hot sauce

#

And a freezer

jaunty oxide
#

Pants are for suckers

pliant sentinel
#

thieving little bastards

tiny summit
#

Morrowind having a lil quest of a dude in the river "help, my pants were stolen"

shadow aurora
#

Bolter rounds are miniature rockets

pliant sentinel
#

Rockets don't have powder in them

#

To propel

#

actually it depends on the type of rocket

#

so belay that

serene sage
crude ermine
#

Yes

#

Thankfully I still have my jorts

shadow aurora
pliant sentinel
#

holy shit

#

the fuck lmao

serene sage
#

Boltgun is funni

pliant sentinel
#

the logic is hurting brain

shadow aurora
#

I don't understand it either

pliant sentinel
#

I thought they were just glorified depleted uranium rounds

acoustic sapphire
#

Gaaaaah!
700k shekels, and 8k Plasteel later, and I still don't have Power Cycle for the Power Sword.
It keeps giving me the same level 3 blessings over and over again.

pliant sentinel
#

mk 3 or 6?

serene sage
acoustic sapphire
#

MK 3

pliant sentinel
#

Use the mk 6

acoustic sapphire
#

Why is it better?

pliant sentinel
#

Ye

acoustic sapphire
#

I mean how is it better?

pliant sentinel
#

I have the power cycler blessing on it

#

I've never been able to roll that on the mk3

acoustic sapphire
#

Alright, I'll give it a try. I just have to play through about 10 Damnation missions to get those resources back.

serene sage
# acoustic sapphire I mean how is it better?

they both perform similarly, Mk6 has the advantage of the push poke attack that does high damage to weakspot, allowing you to two shot (one poke then a light) Crushers if done correctly

pliant sentinel
#

That

serene sage
#

but I also personally think 2 shotting crushers is overrated. it's nice but don't bend over backward just for a MK6

cedar pecan
#

what's the revolver dump stat? mobility?

serene sage
#

yuh

tall torrent
pliant sentinel
#

power cycler is the perk that gives you an extra charged swing right?

serene sage
#

yes

acoustic sapphire
#

I've got a decent MK 3, I just don't have the blessing I want.
I'll upgrade MK 6's and see which performs better once I get Power Cycle.

terse idol
#

If youre really hankering

pliant sentinel
#

Yeah I have that on either II or III rating

terse idol
#

Grab a blue psword

#

Change the blessing to a T3 you already have

#

Upgrade to yellow

acoustic sapphire
#

Are you sure that works?

tall torrent
#

I mean I only got this after like 8M dockets and idk how many Iā€™ve bricked

Warhammer_40000_Darktide_Screenshot_2024.02.02_-_11.51.39.56.png
tall torrent
terse idol
#

It dosnt gurantee a t4 blessing but it makes it so you don't get a repeat

acoustic sapphire
#

That's going to be resource heavy, but I'll try it.
I've currently only got about 200 Plasteel, so I need to play several rounds first.

#

Thanks for the tips.

tall torrent
#

Looking for a specific blessing in this game is just gonna be resource heavy

dusty sluice
#

please hadron

image.png
#

just two t4s

tall torrent
#

Itā€™s 545~550 material

dusty sluice
#

this ft is too low right?

image.png
serene bough
#

its good

tall torrent
serene bough
#

ideally higher but yeah test it

hollow ibex
#

Trying to go for a meme manstopper shotgun

dusty sluice
hollow ibex
#

Which shotgun would you guys pick for that purpose

tall torrent
hollow ibex
#

Thought about it

#

But couldn't decide what the best option would be for a manstopper meme shotgun

#

I would use scattershot with it

serene bough
tall torrent
#

Lawbringer then

dusty sluice
#

that both don't hit some bps

#

this is :(

image.png
#

hadron has not been nice this week

hollow ibex
#

Was considering Agri, for the larger tube

tall torrent
#

And I figured out smth very funny for Kantrael

#

No respite increases the burn dmg from fire shots

hollow ibex
tall torrent
hollow ibex
tall torrent
#

4.5 is essentially hit 2 scab bruisers and it stops

#

A scab bruiser is 3.5

hollow ibex
#

Tbh I would prob use it mostly on primary fire or slug

tall torrent
hollow ibex
#

Since law special does pretty pathetic damage

hollow ibex
tall torrent
#

I have 25% flak on mine

hollow ibex
#

What do you use for your other blessing?

tall torrent
#

But no maniac

tall torrent
hollow ibex
#

You think scattershot is good on it?

tall torrent
#

I think no respite is the best option

#

2nd is kinda whatever

#

Full bore isnā€™t that great for Kantrael cuz spread is wide

hollow ibex
#

Yeah I have full bore on it atm

tall torrent
#

Deathspitter & fire frenzy donā€™t get proc from burn DoT kills

#

Otherwise deathspitter could be very good

hollow ibex
#

Prob going to roll a new kanty

tall torrent
#

Terrifying barrage is a meme
Hit & run is kinda whatever

hollow ibex
#

For the manstopper meme ngl

#

Was thinking of going Agri for cleaning slugs

#

Gonna suck if they fix scattershot bug though

tall torrent
#

I highly recommend +flak for Kantrael

hollow ibex
tall torrent
#

Flak is basically mandatory because it helps u kill both gunners, scab rager, both shotgunners and mauler

#

Mauler is havenā€™t checked if u could 2 shot it with fire dot dmg

#

On scab rager I tested

#

It was very very funny

hollow ibex
tall torrent
#

Fire shot once, regular shot

#

That could 2 shot scab rager

#

Need no respite

#

Mauler was most consistently 3 shot

#

Still not bad

hollow ibex
#

Yeah

#

Kanty is fun

tall torrent
#

Itā€™s mostly because

#

The stagger makes it harder to hit his body since heā€™s just on the ground

#

But if thereā€™s some distance between u and them, and they line up

#

U could get some hilarious feeds

#

If thereā€™s no plasma / voidstrike on the team

hollow ibex
tall torrent
#

Prob 2 fire shots then just regular shot

hollow ibex
#

Hmm

tall torrent
#

U want to ads for fire shots because burn stacks are based on #pellets hit, not #dmg dealt

hollow ibex
#

If only the special reload was faster

tall torrent
#

And ads increases minimum pellet hit values

terse idol
#

But that caan take time

tall torrent
hollow ibex
tall torrent
#

O4B pathing for Kantrael shotgun not bad at all

#

Also hold ads when doing special loads

#

Minimize the animation length

#

Thereā€™s no ā€œpumpā€ animation when u hold ads and load special shells

hollow ibex
#

Will have to try

#

For the kanty lasguns is xii or I better atm?

agile forge
#

similar breakpoints to XII, better RoF

#

but I'm not a lasgun stan

woeful junco
#

is the mk2 recon especially shitty or just regular shitty? remind me

tiny summit
hollow ibex
woeful junco
#

damn

hollow ibex
tiny summit
woeful junco
#

okay well

hollow ibex
#

Because the base dps is so bad KEKW_ogryn

woeful junco
#

melk is selling this so I might get it and slap +maniacs instead of infested and infernus instead of sustained fire on it for the memes

image.png
tiny summit
#

Can always buy for copium on recons rising again

#

I still buy 370+ recons for later

woeful junco
#

I want to have a more or less functional specimen of every weapon mark anyway

terse idol
#

Or they'll nerf every gun to recons level

#

šŸ˜Œ

tiny summit
#

Recons are the tease of the big weapon balance update

terse idol
#

Maybe that's when the hellgun will get released

#

And longlas and melta

tiny summit
#

Hellgun is released and it's worse than recon whatthefuck_heresy

terse idol
#

I'm coping that the recon sucks so the helgun would be good

near sable
slender turtle
#

we just didnt know it could get worse

lusty coral
terse idol
white minnow
#

spot the number "510"

sterile wadi
#

Whats the dump stat for a mk3 power sword

#

Or is this one good enough

image.png
mystic belfry
#

Thatā€™s more or less a perfect stat roll

tiny summit
sterile wadi
#

+stamina and +crit chance roll

tiny summit
#

Pull the lever

white minnow
#

rip

#

i'm fine with dumping mobility though i'd ideally dump 'cleave targets'
since, on special attacks, it's 10.9 cleave at 60% cleave targets and 11.7 cleave at 80% cleave targets

shrewd sierra
terse idol
mystic belfry
#

At least with ps6 you get most of your cleave from brutal momentum regardless

terse idol
#

A descalation patch wouldn't be the worst if every single other aspect was also nerfed to compensate

#

The whole idea that I have that smaller numbers is better to balance than funny big numbers

tiny summit
#

I would rather have things be more difficult w/o the director just throwing the entire enemy cast 10x over the course of 2 rooms

torn needle
#

Weapon specialist my beloved

#

What melee should I try next? I've done ps6 and cb

tiny summit
#

Shovel arc?

mystic belfry
#

Rashad axe

#

Claw sword is fun too

shadow aurora
torn needle
torn needle
torn needle
# mystic belfry Rashad axe

I've been trying to build an okay one but they're really RNG dependent to get a good one going which sucks

#

Super dependent on blessings

mystic belfry
#

Very much so yeah

torn needle
#

And perks as well for trash

mystic belfry
#

Headtaker and brutal basically required

torn needle
#

You kinda need a closer to perfect one for it to really click I've heard

tranquil bronze
#

More new arrivals

IMG_1688.png
mystic belfry
#

Headtaker, brutal momentum, flak, unarmored

#

You donā€™t require unarmored if you have headtaker though

#

So itā€™s like three required rolls

#

You need flak and bm, then either unarmored or headtaker

torn needle
#

On top of a weapon that doesn't really have a dump stat

terse idol
#

You can hit up Thrust too

#

But BM is mandatory

mystic belfry
#

Thatā€™s not really a bad thing though

terse idol
#

Thrust could be good to get a very low Crusher BP

mystic belfry
#

More stats good

torn needle
#

It's good but rolling one is more painful

terse idol
#

Welll

#

Minimum 70

#

In all damage stats

mystic belfry
#

Just bring a gun to kill crushers

terse idol
#

But then you have to build with talents

#

I got a bare minimum rashad and it's very very good

mint robin
#

Combi-Bolter lol

a3cf56099d80f65913c7fb2e9f8b4ba7.png
mystic belfry
#

Itā€™s crazy good

torn needle
#

Or plasma I guess

mystic belfry
#

Or revolver

bitter turtle
#

if you're willing to take the 10% melee node

#

its not too bad

#

still annoying htough

#

you NEED flak/unarmored/BM/HT

torn needle
#

I dip all three at the end

bitter turtle
#

do you want to see my suffering

torn needle
#

Show us where hadron abused you

bitter turtle
mystic belfry
#

If you have a melee build and headtaker unarmored isnā€™t required

bitter turtle
#

1 (one) ONE damage off

#

And guess what

#

if I set first target to 80

#

it does the oneshot

mystic belfry
#

You can oneshot the one type of trash still if you have headtaker stacks

torn needle
mystic belfry
#

I know because my Rashad does not have unarmore

lunar beacon
#

Hello, i'm new to veteran. What's the most fun gun to use? I'm using Agripinaa Braced. Is there any gun better than that?

bitter turtle
#

literally kill me

#

well

#

i made a new one that can do it anyway

#

this is to avoid taking the 10% melee node

#

but yeah

bitter turtle
mystic belfry
#

They arenā€™t hard to get

#

Click lmb

bitter turtle
#

it also means it takes that much longer to start clearing chaff when you're in a panic situation

#

idk just my opinion

mystic belfry
#

Like two swings and youā€™re good for the entire horde lol

bitter turtle
#

im pretty sure you need more than 2 stacks unless you run the 10% melee node

#

which i also dont want to do

#

is like 2/3 points wasted

mystic belfry
#

I almost always run 10% melee mode

#

Why would I not

bitter turtle
#

cause i'd rather take things that affect gun too

#

i mean if you have to you have to

mystic belfry
#

It also gets you agile engagement

white minnow
#

agile engagement šŸ˜Ž

mystic belfry
#

Itā€™s not have to lol

bitter turtle
#

agile is just ok

mystic belfry
#

Itā€™s really strong

#

Agile and 10% melee is a huge boost

bitter turtle
#

dont think its as big as going nade keystone

terse idol
#

I'm gonna say it, but agile is annoying unfortunately WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
At least to me

mystic belfry
#

Speaking of agile, thatā€™s another way to get your one shot

bitter turtle
#

agile is pretty annoying personally, i dont think the uptime is as good as one would like it to be

mystic belfry
#

ā€¦ nade keystone?

terse idol
bitter turtle
#

nade keystone is colloquial term of taking all the nade talents so you can chuck infinite shredders

mystic belfry
terse idol
#

So only passive %

bitter turtle
#

just use volver

#

yeah i guess if you only use overpowered guns it doesnt really matter what you pick

mystic belfry
#

Or a shotgun

terse idol
#

No agile

#

No focus

#

Nothin

bitter turtle
#

i accept focus but only at 1/2 stacks

#

and only for specific targets

#

not gunners

#

there's too many of them to tag when they are actually a problem (come in like packs of 10) for how fast u want to kill them with sniper weapons

mystic belfry
#

Wdym too many to tag

bitter turtle
#

like

mystic belfry
#

Just tag them when you start attacking them

bitter turtle
#

at the speed at which

#

i can kill gunners

#

with v7

#

it would actually slow me down to have to tag each one individually

#

unless i bind tag to left click lmao

mystic belfry
#

Just bind tag to a mouse button

#

And click both buttons

bitter turtle
#

in practice, sure

#

maybe you're more skilled than me

mystic belfry
#

If you donā€™t need the toughness/stam from tag ult, then just donā€™t tag gunners when you instantly kill them

bitter turtle
#

but in practice im already focusing on hitting head

#

i dont need another mental stack on top of that to click another button

terse idol
#

Yeah

mystic belfry
#

Just press with your pointer finger and thumb at the same time

terse idol
#

Build BP's without added effort

#

šŸ˜Œ

bitter turtle
#

again, in theory, sure

#

but i dont do that lmb rmb cancel on deimos sword for psyker for a reason

#

even though its the same principle

#

lul

mystic belfry
#

Just do it for a little and it will feel natural

#

Like using claw grip on controller

bitter turtle
#

or i can just build for it without focus

#

lul

crude fiber
mystic belfry
#

Just donā€™t use any talents or blessings tbh

bitter turtle
#

like i said

#

th epoint of that

#

is to avoid taking 10% melee

#

ofc it hits the bp with 10% melee

#

it doesnt matter anymore anyhow

#

i built a new one

mystic belfry
#

Why would you avoid a flat 10% damage lol

torn needle
#

Some people tag for their team, some tag for the bonus damage passive. I tag because red outline helps me see head to shoot thumbsup_ogryn

bitter turtle
terse idol
bitter turtle
#

doesnt need 10% melee ot hit 1 shot bp with 1 stack

bitter turtle
mystic belfry
#

You donā€™t one shot everything

bitter turtle
#

yes, but 10% melee doesnt always reduce the number of hits you need by 1

#

to kill things

mystic belfry
#

Bosses

#

And 10% melee plus 25% agile probably does

bitter turtle
#

monstros already die very fast if i can duel them uninterrupted

#

and

#

guess how i can guarantee that

#

it rhymes with bredder

mystic belfry
#

Itā€™s not like you canā€™t get both agile and nade perks

bitter turtle
#

explain how

#

i already have to give up grenadier for optimal shredder talents

#

and yes i need rending

#

v3 has shit maniac multipliers

#

not everyone runs a gun with free +50% rending tacked on

#

lul

crude fiber
#

You take 5% on elite kill over nade regen? Or is that a different node

bitter turtle
mystic belfry
#

They have it

bitter turtle
#

nade regen is right above shout

crude fiber
#

I mis...saw?

#

Lol

mystic belfry
#

I personally usually just take 60s regen myself

bitter turtle
#

i dont always take demo team

#

but its very nice when you can

mystic belfry
#

Also youā€™ll take weapon specialist but not agile? :v

bitter turtle
#

weapon specialist

#

literally doubles my dps on v3

#

agile does not

#

and that's just the gun side

#

obv the aspd boost + rashad is stonks

#

this is back when i still ran agile actually

#

since i had that shred one

#

so i needed 10% melee

#

but you can see the difference regardless

#

the crit on v3 is just so good

#

and the fire rate difference is actually extremely noticeable, it starts firing as fast as an iag

mystic belfry
#

Agile is nice indeed

bitter turtle
#

agile actually didnt change much

#

because being able to drop agile means i can take superiority complex

#

and demo team

mystic belfry
#

Itā€™s more something a run for shotgun or old revolver

#

For fanfire revolver i run more gun heavy with things like deadshot and tag over weapon specialist

bitter turtle
#

tbh

#

i'd even grab longshot and volley adept before agile

#

i tried that out for a bit

#

reload speed was very nice

#

fun gun

#

i didnt like it at first actually but wep specialist made it click

mystic belfry
#

Autoguns are great but I donā€™t normally use them myself

midnight totem
#

Vraks 3 is probably my favorite headhunter

#

I prefer surgical over headhunter on it

bitter turtle
#

i also like 7

crude fiber
#

The 2 shot burst one needs some love imo, it has so much target stagger and recoil that its hard to land the 2 shots

serene sage
#

there's a 2 burst one?

bitter turtle
#

agri KEKW_ogryn

midnight totem
#

It's the agrip

crude fiber
#

Not sure of the name, the green one

serene sage
#

i guess idk about it so it clearly doesn't exist

midnight totem
#

Its... in a strange spot

terse idol
#

The 7 is good but oh man, I'm too used to exe counter fire on my lasgun

#

22 shots isn't enouugh

bitter turtle
#

agri is highest theoretical dps at least

#

just in practice

#

its hard

serene sage
terse idol
#

šŸ„¹

crude fiber
untold mulch
#

me with 100 shots in mag but they all do jackshit

midnight totem
#

The vraks 3 does more damage per burst because it's 3 shots, but the agrip's refire is faster

bitter turtle
midnight totem
#

But the agrip also has higher recoil

bitter turtle
#

v3 was nerfed on finesse remember?

#

agri can do higher dps if you actually hit all headshots

#

but uh

#

good luck

crude fiber
#

The first shot will stagger everything besides ragers and ogryns + the noticeable recoil makes it real hard to use

bitter turtle
#

if you can only hit 1 of the 2 bullets in the burst then you should just play v7

serene sage
#

when did the Orthus Offensive come out?

#

It feels like forever since we had our last patch

bitter turtle
#

its been almost a couple of months I think?

crude fiber
#

Right before their 2 month fucking vacation

midnight totem
#

Also, both vraks 3 and grip has that crit thing where if shot is a crit, all the bullets in that burst are crits

bitter turtle
#

yeah

#

its just, like is aid

serene sage
#

my assumption is that they are working on DLC on the side

bitter turtle
#

i think on patch 14?

#

they nerfed v3's finesse values

crude fiber
#

And now they start on their 3-4 month process of actually getting a patch out

serene sage
#

to be released on 2nd year anniversary

midnight totem
#

It's much better with weapon specialist on vraks 3

bitter turtle
#

its not as good as when crab posted the vid of him doming a plogryn anymore

#

with v3

#

still great though

#

but agri was untouched

#

so theoretically you can do the same thing with agri probably

#

its just too hard to control

#

beyond me at least

midnight totem
#

I can fire a crit burst into a horde and nail a lot of bunched up shooters

bitter turtle
#

at least v3 you can hit bodyshots and its w/e

midnight totem
#

I have an agrip I made work though

#

Both crit blessings

#

Pretty much every shot is a crit now

mystic belfry
#

The amount of crits you can output on the fanfire revolver is funny

#

You can hit over 50% crit rate overall pretty easily without weapon specialist

serene sage
#

if we need to port the exitus rifle into the game

bitter turtle
#

found it

#

prepatch v3 lol

serene sage
#

how would we do it?

bitter turtle
#

absolutely disgusting

midnight totem
#

I want to like the fanfire revolver

mystic belfry
#

Itā€™s my favorite gun

#

Itā€™s not the best though, I just love it

midnight totem
#

It's too often I pull it out to deal with a gunner or sniper in cover

mystic belfry
#

You can easily headshot them from a. Decent distance with ads

midnight totem
#

And it pings off cover and I'm like "fffff"

bitter turtle
#

agri revolver is just a balanced revolver

#

my hot take

terse idol
#

I was trying to fan a sniper, slooowly and I got 1 hitmarker

crude fiber
#

Make the standing still cross hair tighter and I'd like it. Slap on exec for pinpoint accurate controlled shots and I'd love it

mystic belfry
#

It is until a certain point

terse idol
#

And it didn't kill him KEKW_ogryn

mystic belfry
#

Youā€™re not going to crossmap snipe with it

bitter turtle
#

when did we decide volver should be an armor piecing sniper rifle

terse idol
bitter turtle
crude fiber
mystic belfry
bitter turtle
#

play surgical bolter then

mystic belfry
terse idol
#

I'm telling ya, they should have specialized both revolvers, one better for armour worse for unarmoured

mystic belfry
#

Itā€™s close to mid range

terse idol
#

The other better for unarmoured worse for armour

#

But nope

#

The zarona is a multi-tool

crude fiber
mystic belfry
#

Itā€™s very accurate up to like 60m or something like that. Idr exactly where I tested it to

serene sage
mystic belfry
#

It will cross a big room but not a courtyard

#

It does melt the shit out of bosses though

wary galleon
#

when the director has had enough of your shit and spawns 4 monstrosities, 5 billion gunners, 3 bursters and 1 dog at the same time while ur all below 25% ammo

umbral scaffold
frank basin
#

šŸ§±

flint lake
#

You canā€™t brik a plasma

terse idol
#

Well

#

An ammo dump hurts

#

But yes

#

Its not really possible unless you have like

#

10 TR

flint lake
#

Only thing that matters for a plasma is itā€™s initial base stats

#

Everything else is just sugar on the cream

thick flint
#

infernus my beloved

#

can a fellow veteran email me that blessing pls

terse idol
#

I mean okay I gonna play devil advocate

#

If youuuu

#

Get volatile

#

And 2 dead perks

#

Eh

#

It'll still no you're right

#

That thing only needs 1 BP

flint lake
#

The blessings are largely unimpactful as are the perks for the plasma though it is nice to have Unyeilding and flak

terse idol
#

Huh?

#

You need either elite or unarmoured

#

For the one BP that matters

#

Dredge gunners

flint lake
#

Unarmored is pointless

terse idol
#

No?

#

If you don't want to run either focus target, or long shot

#

Its one of the ways you get the dredge gunner one shot

#

Cause if you don't you run +Elites

flint lake
#

Just do use a quick half charge to deal with dredge gunners

terse idol
#

Why would you charge

#

The pgun has largely been used uncharged

#

Because strictly speaking it has better dps uncharged

#

Its why we even build the dredge gunner BP anyways

#

Or well I should also ask

#

Why run Flak?

flint lake
#

Ammo efficiency

terse idol
#

Yes

#

This is why you run unarmoured

#

For ammo efficiency

#

Or elite

gritty mountain
#

Got 1 modification I can make, thinking block efficiency to something, maybe carapace?

image.png
terse idol
#

And either long shot or focus target

#

Because you want to one-shot dredge gunners

flint lake
#

As I said perks and blessings hardly natter

terse idol
#

Thry kinda do for the dredge gunner bp

#

Which is a 1 perk investment

flint lake
#

Thatā€™s fine

hard briar
#

Ammo efficiency? Sounds like an aim issue, not a perk issue

#

Brothers out here running flak and unarmored getting tripped up like Denver vs Jordan. hitting the backboard and not putting damage on the scoreboard crying to Fatshark buff ammo.
Cry to your eye doctor, buff your prescription.

sharp ember
#

+8% groaners and poxwalkers

frank basin
#

Lmao

sharp ember
#

why does it exist

hard briar
#

To upset you

soft blade
#

so you can deal 8% more damage to groaners and poxwalkers thumbsup_ogryn

frank basin
#

With purge the unclean total 28%

terse idol
#

Rng bloat

terse idol
#

Stinky

frank basin
#

Gobold

terse idol
#

But as someone who didn't know about the BP youuuu save alot more ammo when you do get the dredge gunner BP

#

Pgun braiiinn dead

harsh ridge
frank basin
#

You poop color stink

#

:brainrot:

hard briar
#

It doesn't exist for me

#

It never has

#

It never will

terse idol
acoustic sapphire
#

https://youtube.com/shorts/AAk1cRy50vc?si=FRnH7-PVhb-hzIX4

YouTube
The Wile Spice
The Bolt Gun SLAPS in 40K Darktide! | Warhammer 40K: Darktide

Sing along, the bolt gun slaps in 40K Darktide. Seriously though.

Check out my FULL gameplay video using the BOLTGUN to see me deliver the God Emperors justice and purge the heretics: https://youtu.be/QWxAWLl2Smw

Check out my channel for more Warhammer 40K: Darktide content including Hi-Intensity Shock Troop Gauntlet runs & SUBSCRIBE to stay-...

ā–¶ Play video
acoustic sapphire
civic knot
#

Anyone who can send me the cryonic rod voiceline mod? I need it

sonic marlin
umbral scaffold
placid portal
civic knot
#

or that

thorn dragon
#

Does the refreshing executions stance talent refresh the buffs at the bottom of the trees? The ones that are ability agnostic

tall torrent
thorn dragon
#

šŸ˜¦

placid portal
#

A tragedy

untold mulch
#

I am still a rat in a cage

crude fiber
#

Exec stance being 5 seconds kinda makes the refresh on kill mandatory unless you do some quantum brain shit like use it to weapon swap and hit a breakpoint you otherwise wouldn't then swap back lmao

placid portal
#

Nah

#

just for quickswap

#

Middle of a hoarde and see a high value target? F+ M1 that Heretic

crude fiber
#

Mwf I see a trapper standing around 5 feet away after missing her netstaregryn

slow spade
#

they should make the trapper net grab your weapon and permanently steal it if she gets away UwU

#

got to max out that player gametime UwU

golden nacelle
#

This thing is pretty sweet. 100% Crit on the first shot from surgical, then cavalcade kicks in on the followups. What should I swap my perk to?

2024-02-05.png
tall torrent
tiny summit
golden nacelle
terse idol
#

Well

#

With Cavalade Unyielding is pretty good

crude fiber
tall torrent
#

I say check ur breakpoints

#

If maniac gives u both flamers 1 tap

golden nacelle
#

yeah

opaque kayak
#

what's plasma stat that decreases time between shots

tall torrent
golden nacelle
#

So, do I ditch carapace then?

#

keep the lvl3 flak?

crude fiber
#

id say yeah, probably only saves you a shot or 2 against crushers

#

flak helps with ragers and maulers

tall torrent
#

Itā€™s whether u want a pretty 550 rating or a still really good 545 rating

golden nacelle
#

meh, 547

tall torrent
#

Personally I think anything above 540 that has everything youā€™re looking for just donā€™t differ from each other much in performance

golden nacelle
#

It's better to have the right stuff than the higher rating

tall torrent
#

Going from 540 to 550 is minuscule improvements

golden nacelle
#

That being said, I do love my baby

2024-02-05_1.png
junior needle
#

I'm surprised you can get scab bruiser one shots on that without unarmored

tall torrent
junior needle
tall torrent
#

Unless he puts a bunch of points into melee

#

But Antax is pretty hard to reach those anyway because no finesse modifier

solemn jay
#

very close

#

time to ruin it

junior needle
#

Time for flesh tearer/lacerate

sonic marlin
#

mission reward

image.png
#

really

image.png
#

third 17% ive ever seen

#

only 1 of them was useful

south garnet
#

I really wish every mission would just end with several dice rolls depending on what was accomplished and deliver rewards accordingly

tall torrent
sonic marlin
#

I got that rn but it just feels nice

#

this or 16+5

image.png
stone dome
#

what to do with these two?

20240206041927_1.jpg 20240206041931_1.jpg
sonic marlin
#

this any good? Idk which shovel is supposed to be the good one

image.png
frank basin
#

Shovel is such one hit schmuck

late hatch
#

imo all or nothing is a bit mid but it does give you a big whack if you shoot most of the time and swap to melee to special attack a big boi every so often, which is what that shovel does well.
could try stam to rager. and if you are stam depleted from shooting and switch to melee for a bonk you will be able to proc both blessings maybe

frank basin
#

Or push attack repeatedly?

late hatch
#

is the push attack good on that shovel?

frank basin
#

Every push attack eat stamina it build up the power.

#

I think is gimmick for me

late hatch
#

there are a couple weapons that have really good push attacks. i cant remember what that shovel anim is

finite cobalt
#

What lucius pattern is the go to? or are they all good?

frank basin
#

1/2

obsidian umbra
#

get or nah? does the brutal momentum offset cleave damage stat?

image.png
stone dome
stiff merlin
#

One of the things that's been in my brain is the question: what is the purpose of the Recon Lasgun?

solemn jay
#

dakka laser

frank basin
#

P90

stiff merlin
#

I mean, other than its cool and fun

solemn jay
#

procc stick

#

it used to have infinite ammo

frank basin
#

Critfinite ammo

stiff merlin
#

I can see where it would be good as a debuffer since it would let you get Onslaught to max, but other than it can cause stagger, what is its niche? I've read where you have to be careful and not treat it like an IAG, because its not but also like, what does that really mean

solemn jay
#

it shoot fast

#

fast gun shoot fun

frank basin
#

Before patch 14 shock trooper give you infinite rounds without reload

frank basin
#

It become crits stream when mk 6d shoot very fast and proc crits occasionally

tiny summit
junior needle
junior needle
#

Even with 100% weakspot hit rate with t4 headhunter and critmaxxed with perks and the 5% crit node, you did not ever reach infinite ammo.

#

I know because I used it KEKW_ogryn

frank basin
late hatch
# stone dome any takes lads?

they are currently in a poor state. if you play HIST it will suffer a bit but on normal damn or below its fine. the d is my fave of the bunch. swap groaners for maniac or flak and then stripped to infernus or dumdum

#

they feel cool AF to shoot and if you like it then go for it, but dont expect to top the boards

junior needle
# stone dome what to do with these two?

The 2 is at the lowest tier of dumpster hell, easily the lowest dps gun in the game. Never use it. 6d is the "best" of the recons but that's a very low bar and still in dumpster hell.

I recommend not using them altogether. If you insist, mortis gave you the correct build instructions for that.

junior needle
frank basin
#

Where was the dude like recon gun?

late hatch
#

they still work for stacking infernus and with onslaught you can shred big boys with a burst and then switch targets and let the burn tick them out. but yeah they are a lot worse than the brief period when they were good.

frank basin
#

I forgot him he use Mk 2

#

Oh is Kazymir

late hatch
#

idk why they had to mega nerf them so hard. like bolter was super OP for almost a year without balance changes. now they destroy the fun stuff super fast

frank basin
#

Yeah he streamed play auric with recon mk2

frank basin
#

staregryn which is they trying keep thing down below the fun state

serene sage
#

the devs allegedly have very little knowledge of meta weapons

frank basin
#

Not every dev play the game

serene sage
#

it's really up to the playtesters lol

frank basin
#

Play tester is the player base?

serene sage
#

no

frank basin
#

Or the play tester role

serene sage
#

the playtesters are the playtesters lol

frank basin
#

Man play tester going be gamergate with wrong meta call out

#

I hope they do not call out wrong meta and feedback to dev

tall torrent
#

Well itā€™s pretty hard to give wrong meta feedback

late hatch
#

well that is like the diablo dev stream where the 2 girls were just running around spamming basic attacks and not using most of the abilities. the industry has made it a job for a lot of devs they just do for the money, not the love of the game

potent iris
#

there's definitely more layers to balance beyond those of us doing playtesting lmao

tall torrent
#

You have to be special to not recognize what are generally the strongest weapons rn

serene sage
late hatch
#

and i played ETS for tarkov for ages and gave feedback and they were so slow to fix many things, but when a big streamer gets angry at something they fix that super fast KEKW_ogryn

serene sage
#

or that video game makers are somehow a prestigious position that "requires" passion and love and shit

#

spare me the sentimentality

potent iris
#

(the money in game dev is not very good for most people)

sharp ember
#

they do have metric data on weapon/blessing usage at least, boy would i like to have a look at those

tall torrent
frank basin
junior needle
# frank basin Yeah he streamed play auric with recon mk2

Yeah there was something off about that guy, he was getting roasted by multiple people for absolutely refusing to look at proof that he was wrong about the mk2 being the lowest dps recon.

He also posted a scoreboard that "proved" it was good in auric and all it proved was that he was taking ridiculous amounts of ammo, shooting into melee chaffe, and barely ever using his melee.

sharp ember
#

i would like them to balance that by introducing new enemies, plaguebearers when whatthefuck_heresy

late hatch
frank basin
late hatch
#

not that desk work is great for my bad back

sharp ember
#

or a huge beefcake dreg mauler with a pneumatic hammer, but unarmored chest and carapace helmet

frank basin
junior needle
serene sage
#

like it's just video game, passion helps

frank basin
junior needle
#

He was sitting in here pretending not to see objective evidence that he was wrong

serene sage
#

but the expectation of that for every game dev is ridiculous

frank basin
#

With his favorite recon

serene sage
#

some people just work and get paid

#

nothign wrong with it

sharp ember
junior needle
#

When I not only posted proof but linked it to him multiple times as people called him out for it

#

It was truly a silly time

frank basin
#

Kazymir is hard head guy

late hatch
frank basin
#

Hard case to crack

timid otter
#

Will i get crucified?

stone dome
serene sage
soft blade
#

oh boy

frank basin
potent iris
#

like both the work itself and the pay lol

frank basin
#

I donā€™t feel happy with job reward system

junior needle
frank basin
#

Is felt depressed

late hatch
# serene sage like it's just video game, passion helps

it isnt that it has to be, but since the industry has grown a lot, before it was mostly done for love and the people that did it well got rewarded a lot. now we have people like bobby k running games companies and well just look a the state of OW2

timid otter
serene sage
junior needle
#

MY URGE

#

RISING

frank basin
#

Someone hate it