veteran-class

[untold mulch]

Last one I got

3 lasgun users 1 plasma leading

[tall torrent]

Bonus points if a quad vet team are all wearing the same regiment outfit

[untold mulch]

[muted prairie]

god i want to be kasrkin

OBESEFISH GIVE ME THE KASRKIN SET

CADIAAAAAAAAA

[tall torrent]

Quad vet is either the most fun u can have in a random QP lobby or the worst mission you’ve ever played on this game

[untold mulch]

EXACTLY

[thorn lark]

Yeah. I'm still malding I can do it on my vet and not my zealot -_-

[terse idol]

Honestly yeah

It feels good to have 4 vets

But!

FS definetly balances more on the 1 of each class system blehhh

[untold mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/imperial-guard-cat-warhammer40k-gif-23254825

[junior needle]

Where did you find this picture of literally me and my squadmates

[untold mulch]

my sources are classified 🗿

[keen wolf]

got axe

[tall torrent]

Is that a modded skin for chainaxe or was once from the store

[wet elk]

melk is cooking

kind of

[soft blade]

he’d be cooking if that were an IAG

[keen wolf]

Modded

[wicked zenith]

Headhunter anyone.

[austere mica]

I went "How's vet chat doing" and this is the first thing I see

wonderful

[crude ermine]

Moo

[gilded wraith]

best shovel blessings? foldable

[peak badge]

Is this any good I'm not experienced with the laspistol

[junior needle]

Raking fire is the only thing you'd possibly want on there and it's not exactly good compared to alternatives either

Was the carapace damage to try and roll a better perk during crafting?

[peak badge]

na it just seemed like what it needed when I tried it out in the test chamber

[junior needle]

Most guns do comparatively very little damage to carapace, and so you get massively worse value by taking a carapace perk

That's one of the guns that does little damage to carapace

What was it previously?

[fresh mango]

hows this melk shotty?

[peak badge]

like a tier 3 infected dmg

[junior needle]

You didn't really miss out then, you'd want that gone either way. But to be honest you started with a 4/4 scuffer so you're gonna have to settle.

[slow spade]

I wouldn't buy it personally

No Respite + Full Bore is what I aim for on Kantreal

[junior needle]

Uh, your best bet to salvage is likely carapace>flak or maniac and between the eyes>dumdum (which is bugged and much better than it seems)

[peak badge]

sounds good I dont have any other laspistol perks so I'll just save the gun for now

i'm a plasma main

[dire lagoon]

If I take dumdum off of this can I put it on a Columnus? I always get super confused what does and doesn't share blessings.

[sharp epoch]

columbus infantry or braced?

[junior needle]

Very different focuses but ciag has a higher power level

[hollow ibex]

Infantry

[junior needle]

oh whoops

I should read the comments my bad

[hollow ibex]

Lol

Same

[junior needle]

Yeah blessings are shared in the family

The forge world "agri, columnus" is irrelevant and the type "laspistol, infantry autogun, braced autogun" are what matter for blessings

[muted knot]

Don't do it bro

That thing is great

[muted knot]

Keep it

Agri Iag is like really satisfying

[junior needle]

Agri iag is fine, ciag has notably higher dps potential though

But it's very possibly gonna get tuned soon

Or you know they might just let it sit like that for over half a year, they did it with the autopistol

[dire lagoon]

yeah I bought it, going to let it sit for a while.. good point about potential nerf.

[crude ermine]

That felt satisfyingy

[placid portal]

Mmm

Matador Mutie kills

[toxic leaf]

why is it when i play vet, the team always has an ammo aura. but when i play ogryn and need the aura, no one plays it. just homebrew stealth melee vets in auric damnation, with the entire team having red ammo lol

[junior needle]

Me when I play zealot

[toxic leaf]

it sucks that vet is basically an ammo aura because yhou better be the best goddamn player in the world if you're not gonna run that + voc

or you queue into a team of 3 psykers, in which case also good luck

[finite imp]

Y'all don't have to do this

I'm a day trader

I could just go on home

I could make it worth your while

Take you to an ATM with 14 grand in it

[hard briar]

squints eyes
can't tell if Bot and should tag Mods
Or if simply stupid

[vernal harbor]

Y’all don’t know about movies

Fucking killed me lmao rare I laugh from shit like that

[low wagon]

which Devil's Claw mark you prefer to pair with Plasma?

[deft crystal]

Thats so smooth

I watched it twice lmao

[deft crystal]

knife build?

[rain badger]

Smoothbrain bot behavior

[hard briar]

Same energy from this

Blasting away with old-school plasma. Heard dog behind me.

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/anton-chigurh-no-country-for-old-men-ok-oops-javier-bardem-gif-10579690

No country for old men is probably one if not THE best movie I have ever seen

and if it's not that it is definitely the best western

[finite imp]

at would be a really weird bot lol

[trim steppe]

Decent. I can't seem to roll an extremely good evis

[finite imp]

Damn when did vet get the eviscerator

[hollow ibex]

patch 15

[finite imp]

nice. Zealots malding?

[trim steppe]

I post my zealot stuff in here cuz zealot chat is an experience

[finite imp]

preaching to the choir

i went in there to ask for a zealot knife build and they were like we dont have any

and i was like yeah the ogryns probably have better zealot builds than yall

and that got what i wanted

[trim steppe]

I asked about TH rolls once and they just chanted stuff like "purge the heretics" at me instead of providing any info

[finite imp]

typical

i think we have a healthy blend of metamaxxing and cat posting

[junior needle]

Based

Very in character

[crude ermine]

The build I was running wasn't really catered to the knife, rather i only used it when I needed to defend myself but if you want to have a build that works well with the knife then you can use a wep spec build

I was using a mf build due to having the vraks 7

[finite imp]

this the type of shit i thrive

i love doing a drive by backstab on a mutant

so funny

if you think about it a live service video game is really just early acces but long term

[blissful flame]

recently came back after going on a hiatus before the big glass rework in october. just got a vet to 30, and the emperor blessed me with a decent axe, but i'm looking for tips on how it could be improved

https://i.imgur.com/2NlgUJR.png

[finite imp]

well first off welcome

2ndly it's not a knife

3rdly tho that's already a great axe

[blissful flame]

it's a big, right-angle knife

[finite imp]

don't you speak blasphemy to the knifemaxxer

change your perks to 25 dmg flak and 25 dmg maniac

[blissful flame]

indeed, it's served me well, but since i haven't done any crafting on it, i'm wondering if it can be improved. I got head-taker 4 banked, but i feel like i might be better off replacing both perks

and i see you agree as well

[finite imp]

oh shit is that a fucking 1 tier BM

lol i have never seen that blessing

how did that spawn on a 373

[blissful flame]

i got it as a blue, i think, but i can't tell you if that was the blessing already there, or having it appear when i concecrated it

but from what i see, BM tiers just increase weakspot damage, which means the perks would probably make a more reliable difference

[finite imp]

it deff was

its in slot 1

[blissful flame]

also as a shouty vet, my curios are currently invested into toughness, even though i previously had invested in HP. Toughness seems to be working well for me that way

drat, even with the flack bonus, it looks like i'm literally 1-2 damage short of the breakpoint for the tougher melee scabs on the initial light swing

[trim steppe]

yeah I'd reroll both perks to flak and maniac. BM is good mostly for the effect, the tier doesn't add very much so T1 is servicable

[blissful flame]

certainly plenty good to use while i try for an even better roll downt he line

[terse idol]

ill say, try to find a good rashad

cough

they're really good but also, kinda painful to minxmax

[blissful flame]

rashad mk 2 i assume? My zealot has a decent one too

[frank ether]

more than 1m ordo and still no decent rashad

I think my account is just cursed

[blissful flame]

i'm gonna sacrifice one of my zealot's axes to have a brutal momentum stocked

[soft blade]

brutal

[blissful flame]

it's another decent axe, +25 flac and maniac, headtaker 4 and BM 3

but it's on a 359 antax v, with most of the dump on damage

and seeing as we do have a knife expert in here, what's the preferred dump stat on a knife? I usually hear mobility for most weapons, but an advantage of the knife is mobility

[hard briar]

Not really. I've been in financial discords before. The bait bots change accordingly

[finite imp]

Papers said it was a crime of passion but he said there weren't no passion to it

Said if they turned him lose he'd go out and do it again

Said he knew he was going to hell

be there in a bout 15 minutes

I don't know what to make of that.

[finite imp]

go +9 stam

[terse idol]

Sunrise is doing their villain arc rn

[terse idol]

Yeahh, I got lucky enough to just make a baseline rashad

🥹

[bitter turtle]

that uh

looks pretty bad

also

is stability a dump stat on the infantry lasguns

https://i.gyazo.com/39105ae0c68a80767e4dc78fbbe2356a.png

got this from emprah

lul

[blissful flame]

i'd imagine mobility would be, cause you're already kinda slow holding those aren't you?

[terse idol]

Yuhhh

I'd mess with low stability

[serene bough]

that mg4 gonna kick like a mule

[bitter turtle]

hm

honestly

i barely notice a difference

setting it to 80

[serene bough]

its a dump stat, there's no difference from what i can tell

its a pretty solid weapon id say

[acoustic sapphire]

Is there an efficient way to farm blessings?
I want to get Power Cycler for my Power Sword.

[austere mica]

Suffering

suffering is the optimal farming strategy

Being real though I got mine by just upgrading ps6's and checking melk every so often

Items with a higher rating have a higher chance so I think upgrading perks and blessings before rolling Ascendent helps a bit

[finite imp]

Suffer

You want to get power cycler for your power sword. Next you'll ask me what blessings to put on your plasma gun

And then I will finally lose the plot

My grip will slip

[finite imp]

Decent knife.

[solemn jay]

I'm guessing finesse is the low priority?

[finite imp]

ITS A KNIFE

WHAT

MOBILITY IS YOUR DUMP STAT

[muted knot]

Every weapon with finesse wants finesse

[finite imp]

The appeal of the knife IS THE FINESSE

[solemn jay]

I don't know the desirable stats

[bitter turtle]

idk

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/frustration-frustrated-bang-head-gif-5341546

[bitter turtle]

first target is pretty damn important

i would not use that one

[finite imp]

That's why I said decent and not good or great

Baka

[solemn jay]

so, first target, finesse, and damage?

[bitter turtle]

i dont know if i'd say even decent

[muted knot]

For knife it's everything other than mobility

[bitter turtle]

first target is literally the biggest damage loss

[finite imp]

The knife yearns for all 3 damage stats

[solemn jay]

interesting

[blissful flame]

i got a big knife https://i.imgur.com/3CULOQN.png

[bitter turtle]

vs every other stat

even moreso than damage

[finite imp]

Yikes on that cleave

[bitter turtle]

obv only applies to the first target, but for an anti-elite weapon, i'd say the loss is painful

for me to just keep rolling

[muted knot]

Okay bludd listen, why would you send a screenshot like that ?

[finite imp]

Yeah the big attraction to the knife is the whole being able to ignore the tank armor your enemy is wearing

[blissful flame]

because a bunch of 80s! the Emperor giveth, and the emperor taketh away

[finite imp]

That's not what he meant

He meant why don't you just upload the raw screenshots

You're taking an whole ass extra step for no reason

[trim steppe]

[finite imp]

Oh shit

He doesn't have a role

[blissful flame]

it's not letting me. I'm assuming as a newbie, i'm blocked from direct uploads?

[finite imp]

Trying to find an answer for you

[muted knot]

That could be it

[finite imp]

It is it I've seen the problem before

Shouldn't the bot give him a role

[blissful flame]

i'm an initiate, does that not count?

[finite imp]

Maybe there's like a button you need to push

No you need to be a convict

Quick go kill one of your elderly neighbors and call the cops on yourself

That should do it

[blissful flame]

i might settle for just telling my boss "no" once, that'll do it too

[finite imp]

When you joined the server did it make you read any rules or something

[finite imp]

That was a loaded statement

I'm going to accept it at face value

[blissful flame]

yep, read the rules, selected 3 of the roles you can see me have, and stuff

[finite imp]

Or you're military

[blissful flame]

and i was more alluding to the "insubordination" charge a darktide convict could have

[finite imp]

Oh

I thought you had a super cool job

Welp

[blissful flame]

well, if you buy lipstick from a certain department store online, odds are very good I'll be involved it it getting to you one way or another

[finite imp]

<@&735928989146939404> is there something specific this guy needs to do to get a role? It's been over a year since I joined so I cannot remember

[finite imp]

See that's what I need is a super specific desk job

I don't ping the wardens often but I've seen this issue enough where I'd like to just be able to help people without pinging them from now on

[raw steppe]

you have to have joined the discord

for more than a day

lol

[junior needle]

Finesse is attack speed on melee weapons (quite important) and also crit/weakspot damage (important on knife because high finesse modifiers). Overall quite important. They're a bit hard to roll because you actually have 4 important stats you want near max and then not dump mobility too hard.

[potent iris]

you must answer three riddles and bring us a shrubbery

[junior needle]

Should've said "You must answer riddles three"

Missed opportunity

[trim steppe]

Behold

[blissful flame]

Praise the emperor!

[finite imp]

Well there's you answer. Exist here for more than 24 hours

[blissful flame]

Kinda figured as much, but good to have an answer

[finite imp]

Pr good

[terse idol]

zamn

[muted knot]

Fucks

[blissful flame]

i also got this one https://i.imgur.com/X20nZNA.png

(too new to post directly, as we've established)

i was using that before the rework last fall

[serene sage]

damn son

[blissful flame]

i should probably reroll that unarmored to flak or fanatic i guess

[serene sage]

unarmored is fine imo

[blissful flame]

i usually just noodle around in the grinder and see what doesn't die as quickly as i want

[potent iris]

[trim steppe]

unarmored lets you 1 shot scab bruisers, flak lets you 1 shot dreg bruisers

both are ideal, but either is good

[scarlet smelt]

Can I save this

[soft blade]

just harvest hit and run off it

[scarlet smelt]

sigh

https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner2049-blade-runner-angry-god-damnit-confused-gif-15118091

[sharp ember]

it would’ve been a non-standard setup but you could’ve swapped sprint and punishing salvo, and still have a CIAG with every refinement being useful

unyielding would absolutely mulch monsters

and hit n run protects you from gunfire while mowing down aggressively at short range

It just wouldn’t be the typical Flak + Maniac setup so watch out for the extra kill time on specials

[scarlet smelt]

dont really like hit n run I'd rather much prefer stripped down

[sharp ember]

fair enough

I got a bit of a soft spot for Unyielding perk when I don’t run a melee that particularly excels at boss killing

on guns anyway

[thick rose]

what do I want on an agrip shotgun?

[wicked zenith]

Honestly, I feel every build I run has to have Percision Strikes, Superiority complex, Bring it down, Rending Strikes. None of the Keystones seem worth anything in auric. If I use Deadshot, I also feel I need to grab both Stam Regen Boosts.

@thick rose If you are slug shooting, see how close you are to one-shoting stuff. If you are barely out of reach of a Crusher/Mauler Caraspace, Most of the Maniacs it should headshot kill, Flak for the one Rager/Body shots on a Mauler, Unyeilding for two orgyns.

[thick rose]

is scattershot good on agrip?

err

I mean

fullbore

[serene sage]

Fullbore is a must imo

[wicked zenith]

Full Bore for slugs.

[serene sage]

it synergizes well with both slug and ADS normal shots

there is almost no reason not to run it 😄

[wicked zenith]

Honestly the new Stub Revovler besides hitting snipers just feels so much better then the Agrip shotgun now. The reload is so much quicker.

[gaunt hinge]

The new revolver I just use like a pocket bolter

Just quickly magdump a mauler

[wicked zenith]

If you get a good Rending/Crit one it can two shot (head) Maulers with Stance up, or even crushers if both crit.

[gaunt hinge]

I use shout with it

[wicked zenith]

Most people use the overpower shout, it's way way stronger than the others. Will probably be nerfed at some point.

[serene sage]

hmm

[gaunt hinge]

He skipped lower torso day

And the other didn't mew

[wicked zenith]

It's Clearly the new field tech Optical Camo, for when Orgyn have to poo.

[shadow aurora]

If they dont see them they'll hear them

[bitter turtle]

More like exec needs buff and infil needs better pathing

I can take infil on like 1 build without sacrificing keystone 😔

[trim steppe]

Exec needs slight buff and less tax with its modifiers

[ruby hull]

Man I really want to love braced auto guns, but man they really need at least triple their mag and ammo count to make them at all relevant rather than a regular auto gun you can't use iron sights with

Make them box mag belt fed lmgs and make em unique

Cause right now they just kinda exist as worse infantry autoguns

[hard briar]

They should made them LMGs

Massive mags, belt fed.

[ruby hull]

Exactly

[terse idol]

@royal valve

I uh, don't trust like that

[frank ether]

oh hey free ice cream

[pearl granite]

reminds me of that portal ads. shooting 70% more bullet per bullet

[ruby hull]

<@&735928989146939404> mod, kindly remove this man from the mortal coil

[limber fractal]

let me buy one more boltgun and see what I get before I go to sleep

yeah its time to go to bed

[thick wolf]

13% damage

man brunt really just intentionally destroyed that boltgun

[blissful flame]

brunt blunt special

[umbral scaffold]

veteran gaming https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1200714948427386900/1203863549076701255/20240204164309_1.jpg?ex=65d2a44c&is=65c02f4c&hm=1597716ca589a5e71572ba7e44479afed2c46fcd35f27a30f83aa1e666f2417b&

[deft crystal]

What perks do I run on plasma

[ebon umbra]

maniac 100%
flak, carapace, or unyielding

[pallid dew]

Would be cool to get arbites cosmetics for veteran as well as weapon cosmetics

Would fit the game as well

[thorn apex]

Can someone explain stripped down? Why is there a 50-80% range?

[idle carbon]

the better the tier of Stripped Down, the lower your stamina can be before you lose the ranged immunity effect

i.e. sprint for longer

[thorn apex]

Ah gotcha

[thorn apex]

does it really mean you're immune as in, u take NO DMG from ranged?

[drowsy laurel]

Yep

[thorn apex]

say less

[drowsy laurel]

Pair it with duck and dive and gunners become a none issue

[thorn apex]

that was my plan lol

[blissful flame]

i'm a little sad about the dump on stopping power and losing a lil damage, but this aint a terrible roll https://i.imgur.com/5dDSzJS.png

oo, i have a role now, i can finally embed!

but yeah I guess i'lls wap out those perks for maniflak and give it a go

considering my vet just hit 30 and i've been using a 320 roll braced autogun till now, this should be good lol

[terse idol]

SP is an important stat I'm sorry to say but it's okay

[mystic belfry]

It’s a usable gun for sure

[dusty sluice]

its done

yay

[unreal bone]

I wonder how high I can crank ragdolls up to

before my cpu starts to like

actually notice it

also wait wouldn't more ragolls increase cpu and gpu useage?

[frank ether]

it should

[dusty sluice]

thats a setting?

[unreal bone]

yeah

[dusty sluice]

oh nice

also meme revi done

melk gave me all blessings i needed today

(Hand cannon 4 and gets hot 4)

[odd sparrow]

Wouldnt you rather have crucian roulette since you want to mag dump anyway

[dusty sluice]

Mostly using my Meele lol

Using dclaw

(Also I don’t have crucian t4 and it bugs me)

Using deadshot anyways

[stone dome]

does point blank start ticking after you swap or immediately? if immediately thats an insanely low timer for only 20%

[dusty sluice]

Immediately lol

[stone dome]

ffs

[dusty sluice]

Fartshit need to change that tbh

[stone dome]

so you have effective <1.5s of firing after you swap, alt fire and aim

[dusty sluice]

Yeah

I’m using dclaw btw

[stone dome]

the what

[dusty sluice]

Devils claw

[stone dome]

that the weird light attack sequence catachan sword?

[dusty sluice]

Dclaw iv is very nice

[stone dome]

isnt it wide wide overhead?

and then heavies are 2 wides

[dusty sluice]

That’s mk1

[stone dome]

ah, whats on 4?

[blissful flame]

i haven't invested in a proper sword, aside from the mk3 power sword

[stone dome]

i only have a decent example of mk1, mk4 is an eluve dingus that never rolls over 60% for me

[dusty sluice]

Epic reply fail

[blissful flame]

most of them I just never really liked the movesets that tend to mix wide swings with strikedowns

that, and i'm addicted to killing stuff in one swing, so axes and power swords for me

[stone dome]

assuming you do light light heavy for hordes and heavy light for single target?

[dusty sluice]

It’s just l1 h2 repeating for hordes

And l3 Just feels like the rest tbh

[stone dome]

same, also but also knives as i love dodging around like an idiot

[elder fiber]

l1 h2 for horde and h1 block cancel for single target

[dusty sluice]

You have do h1 l2 too

Or parry cancel

[frank ether]

d.claw is cool once you learn it

[dusty sluice]

As after parry it’s a strikedown

[dusty sluice]

I have 250 hrs with it lol

[frank ether]

I dont suffer an aneurysm playing d.claw unlike chswords

[dusty sluice]

Mk7 is weird

[frank ether]

7 is the most complicated one

but its easy to cleave hordes with

[blissful flame]

come to think of it, I got the achievement for 15 consecutive t3 missions without beign downed, but only ever did one t4 mission. I probably can move up, but i've just never quite been in the mood for the expected stress of it

[stone dome]

mk4 is great on zealot at least with crits, on vet i just rather use axes/ps/knife

[dusty sluice]

I think you can do smth like push attack light light heavy light for single target

[stone dome]

mk4 chain*

[frank ether]

yeah or do the overhead heavy

[dusty sluice]

What’s the chain for that

Parry chains into sweep too right?

[stone dome]

then again i just use evi/axes/hammer on zealot most of the time

[frank ether]

I think? I'm really not sure now that you mentioned

I swap between them too often lol

[dusty sluice]

I kinda want to roll a mk7 on my vet now

[frank ether]

but 7 is the one I use a lot and either push attack light spam for single target or the heavy 2 into weakspot is what I tend to do

[dusty sluice]

Also savage sweep is very fun on dclaw

But not the best compared to shred

[frank ether]

get rampage proc with H1 and then slam whatever needs killing with H2

[stone dome]

light spam is great on chains provided you got attack speed bonuses

[frank ether]

yeah but at least you get consistent reliable horizontals

so easy to get procs

compared to chsword with its yee yee ass diagonals

[dusty sluice]

I have sweep locked for mine on vet

And shred for zealot

[frank ether]

sweep+rampage

I like that they work on same condition

[dusty sluice]

This is my vets one

[frank ether]

but shred is probably better on chsword

or if your playstyle just involves a lot of light spam

[stone dome]

btw, doesn't onslaught stack up more damage% than rampage? why do people prefer rampage?

[dusty sluice]

I only light spam for pox hordes

[frank ether]

I do H1+L1 on claw7

horizontal sweeps all day

[dusty sluice]

Not good for clear

Against non flak

And just not the best for meele imo

[stone dome]

isnt it better for clear? t3 onslaught 35% dmg compared to 32% and you dont have to hit 3 targets with light attacks

[frank ether]

u mean the armor shred talent?

[dusty sluice]

Wait are you talking about the skill or is there a blessing

[stone dome]

blessing, +7% dmg per kill, stacks 5 times on t3

[frank ether]

that sounds like slaughterer

swords dont get that

[stone dome]

oh whoops

[dusty sluice]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/sword/catachan-mk-iv-devils-claw-sword

This is all dclaw gets

[stone dome]

ps has it at least, don't(or didn't) chains have it aswell?

[dusty sluice]

Nope

[frank ether]

yes slaughterer is cool but its not available for claw or chsword

so your only damage option is rampage

imo this holds back chainswords a lot

[stone dome]

huh

[dusty sluice]

And shred ig

[stone dome]

shred i feel is mandatory tbh

[dusty sluice]

I would say it’s rampage + svg sweep or shred

And skullcrusher if your memeing

[frank ether]

I dont think vet synergizes with crits as good as zealot does

[stone dome]

run and gun on chans when

[frank ether]

on zealot building crit makes you spam ability

[sonic marlin]

dumdum 4 for 2.4k or 3 for 1.4k do i get one of them?

[frank ether]

on vet it does not much

[sonic marlin]

I plan on upgrading shit ton of guns to blue, idk if its a waste

[frank ether]

just buy the 4

[stone dome]

i just feel it helps clear hordes much quicker with a few crits on board even on vet

[dusty sluice]

I would never grab t3s from milk

[stone dome]

it's a 1 time spend, id take the 4

[dusty sluice]

How much milk money do you have?

[sonic marlin]

if i get it the next time i upgrade some iag to blue ill smite your ass

[frank ether]

if you want horde clear why not take a cleave blessing tho

wrath works just fine

[stone dome]

because now that blessed green idiots run around they dont seem to die without crits and disrupt the flow of horde clear at least for me

[sonic marlin]

man i can't do shit im so broke oh my god

[dusty sluice]

I grabbed no respite iv from milk and got it twice as egs the next day

[sonic marlin]

also this just breaks my heart

[dusty sluice]

Full screen ffs

[agile forge]

Brunt is a motherfucker

[stone dome]

i just fucking stopped using the brunts armory its such a sham

[frank ether]

just hit them again

[sonic marlin]

happens when i screenshot

[dusty sluice]

It cost me 3k too

[sonic marlin]

[dusty sluice]

And then I get it twice in a day

[frank ether]

not bad

that will do just fine

[dusty sluice]

Could it have been 550ed

If it could you committed heresy

[stone dome]

outside of knifes, it triggers me when i do 1 or 2 sweeps and the immediate targets are still alive

[sonic marlin]

and what am I supposed to do hope a high rating agri iag just drops in my pocket?

[dusty sluice]

Hourly shop imo

[sonic marlin]

wdym not bad shits near perfect

[agile forge]

What is that really? CIAG?

[sonic marlin]

what

yea

[stone dome]

does it seem to drop in your pocket from brunt? didnt think so

[sonic marlin]

[dusty sluice]

Was the other blessing t4

[frank ether]

my 80 damage 78 stopping agriag is like 25 damage short of one shotting flak gunner

its literally rashad but iag

[agile forge]

Pump enough dockets in and you'll get something eventually

[sonic marlin]

what other blessing, its locked

[stone dome]

i just buy shit from the regular random shop when opportunity presents itself

[dusty sluice]

I mean the one you replaced with dumdum

[agile forge]

The click after you finally give up would have been the click that gets you the 80/80/80/80/60 of your dreams

[sonic marlin]

oh idk what it was, something not useful

even before dumdum 1

[agile forge]

That's why I invest my paycheck entirely into lottery tickets

[dusty sluice]

Was it t4 tho

[sonic marlin]

yeah i do use that but it gives me shit like this

[sonic marlin]

im not sure why

[dusty sluice]

Huh

[sonic marlin]

so much 360-380 stuff

[sonic marlin]

idk what it was even, why

why does rating matter

[dusty sluice]

Brain activation

Big number = brain happy

[sonic marlin]

yes

but

if it was shit

why matter

its not 550 so what

is that max?

[stone dome]

550 is current max but i personally dont give a shit as long as the weapon is perfectly functional

[sonic marlin]

i don't have enough money to reset my fucking missions

i usuaully do like 3 resets so they are all 500+

[dusty sluice]

Yesr

[sonic marlin]

this week its 200-300 all

wtf

[dusty sluice]

Brain happy

[agile forge]

550 is just satisfaction

[sonic marlin]

finally

[agile forge]

Never mind that some of my best weapons in practice are like 470

[dusty sluice]

NO

[agile forge]

HISSSSSSSSSSS

[dusty sluice]

BAD

[untold hull]

https://tenor.com/view/krinkles-madness-combat-confused-wtf-why-gif-21593979

[stone dome]

i just prefer to have easy missions so i can get that 1000 bonus on multiple chars with my limited time schedule

[agile forge]

HERESY

[sonic marlin]

i play one character

last week i got like uhh lemme count

[agile forge]

Collecting your books OF LIES

[sonic marlin]

4k melk bux

[stone dome]

i got like 5-6k finishing it on 3 chars

[sonic marlin]

multiple missions at 700, rest 500+

wait is this shit shared?

between characters?

[stone dome]

melk bux? yes. missions? no

[sonic marlin]

i run only scriptures

ohh makes sense

[viscid sparrow]

btw, which is generally better for regaining toughness: Confirmed Kill (toughness regen on elite/special kills), or Out For Blood (All kills replenish 3.5 extra toughness)?

[sonic marlin]

ill probably start doing easy missions too when i get more characters

i started a psyker

[stone dome]

so you can get the 1k bonus on on all 4 chars

[sonic marlin]

quit after 3 missions

you can have even more than 4 characters

cuz mods

man i should do that

[stone dome]

just started psyker recently too, it just feels so bad to play, like he is strong but i dont like the gameplay

[tidal mirage]

I just heard my veteran say fucking clout

[viscid sparrow]

you have to reach at least lvl 20-25 to make staffs even slightly work...

[sonic marlin]

people told me to play psyker cuz i didn't like melee much, i still don't melee much until its necessary so i was told to play purgatus psyker, i tried and the whole psyker chat was bunch of annoying people shitting on my choice

[stone dome]

i have no bloody time for this

[viscid sparrow]

I am still waiting for an answer to this question, btw

[sonic marlin]

i have like no will to lvl up characters

[stone dome]

psyker is very unfun to play even if you dont like melee, literally psyker 'grenades' feel better to use than his staves

[sonic marlin]

i like the zealot 'grenades', its the uhh throwing knives?

+ogryn grenade crate

yummy

might just go ogryn for fun

[stone dome]

depends on your build, melee horde clear: out for blood. ranged elite slayer: conf kill

[stone dome]

ogryn does have a ranged build with the mk4 lmg

[sonic marlin]

i know like nothing about ogryns

i like the shield

[stone dome]

i hate the shield, i play aggro and i hate hitting things 10 times to kill it

[stiff glacier]

Lawbringer with excecutioner stance is pretty fun

[sonic marlin]

why does ogryn have so few choices?

[stone dome]

box

[sonic marlin]

what

[stone dome]

box?

box!

[sonic marlin]

which choices make my ogryn funny

homeworld etd

c

[stiff glacier]

Cant really put man with room temperature iq to roles that demand a lot

[stone dome]

go ask in ogryn chat i have no idea mate

[sonic marlin]

yeah good idea

[viscid sparrow]

I usually kinda need toughness as soon as possible in hordes regardless of build... I guess I can try to use Out For Blood, and if I don't survive because of not having up to 33% toughness DR from nearby mates (via Close Order Drill), then I just swap back to Conf Kill...

[agile forge]

He speaks the bull shit

Psyker at level 30 is the best for fun factor, tied with Zealot imo

Staves are shit before then though tbf

[sharp ember]

i like melee psyker

[stone dome]

ogryn firearms literally have burst limiters because they like the boom boom and waste all of the ammo otherwise

[sharp ember]

converting block into peril cooks

and the illisi and deimos force swords are smooth

[stone dome]

i mean look, the shield psyker is boring, the crit psyker(right side of the tree) mandates a lot of staff use, which i hate, so it only leaves vent psyker with assail and melee, which is what im using lol

[stiff glacier]

Gun psyker is another choice if you dont want to bother with psychics much

[stone dome]

BUT WHATS DE POINT DEN

[agile forge]

If you hate staves, then you just personally dislike psyker

[agile forge]

Gun psyker is very unique, idk what to day

[stiff glacier]

Hipstering

[agile forge]

It's not comparable with other gun builds

[sharp ember]

gun psykers are interesting, huge crit rate but you still have your blitz in your pocket for proper warp magic

[stone dome]

i just hate how they are implemented and are extremely reliant on modifiers and blessings

[agile forge]

Not once fully developed

[viscid sparrow]

what is boring and what isn't is mostly based on opinion though, and you just so happen to dislike Psyker gameplay while I myself like Psyker gameplay

[agile forge]

Then you just can't get past the early game, which is a legitimate complaint

But to call the class boring is misdirected

[stiff glacier]

I dislike that stsves beside purgatus have the same primary fire

[agile forge]

You literally haven't played a developed psyker

[stone dome]

i weirdly like psyker abilities and stuff, i just hate the staves which kills it for me

[stone dome]

this is the last class i got around to, and it's the only class that feels so painful to play before you get the good stuff, it feels like "how can you say you played the X game if you have spent at least 10 100 1000 hours in?"

[viscid sparrow]

bruh the "staffs needing the right blessings to work" thing is very common with most guns too...

[agile forge]

This is legitimately a problem, yes.

[stiff glacier]

Mage with the gat

[agile forge]

No arguments there

[sharp ember]

powersword without power cycler

[stone dome]

this i do agree with. 1000%

but i cant come up anything else that feels abhorant to use without X blessing, any takes?

[stiff glacier]

Psyker was my last too but he is by far one of my most played

[small loom]

Bolter without pinning fire

[stiff glacier]

I use bolter without pinning

[stone dome]

nah it's fine, i ran without on heresy for a long time before i rolled it

[thorn lark]

ogryn without rations

[stiff glacier]

I got the brittle on hit and surgical

[agile forge]

Actually

Thought about it a bit

Staves are less blessing dependent

[small loom]

Its more a "its fine without it" rather than a make or break blessing. But that one blessing increases its damage so much its insane

[agile forge]

More base stat dependent

[stone dome]

that too

[agile forge]

Which is a bigger problem really

[stiff glacier]

I wish autopistol wasnt as anemic

And that it had braced autoguns bash over flashlight

[sharp ember]

zarona revolver loses a lot of power when you take away Handcannon + Surgical

it's probably just alright without it

not outright mediocre like powersword without PC

[agile forge]

It's still a special killer right

Just not an elite/armour cruncher

[stone dome]

this is fine, i used it as a green gun as a zealot for a while

[sharp ember]

yeah that's about right

[stiff glacier]

Just with surgical and speedloader, damage of choice and the couple skills its good

[sharp ember]

the only meaningful choices for helbores are Surgical + Onslaught, but it isn't as huge of a power boost

[frank ether]

axe without brutal momentum

tac axe, combat axe, all the same

[sharp ember]

oh yeah brutal momentum is a big one

[stiff glacier]

[stone dome]

there is a big diff between gun going from okay to great and from borderline unusable to very strong

[stone dome]

tis fine, you use it on specials and have a wave clearer gun

[frank ether]

I can use a no PC power sword easier than no BM tac axe

[sharp ember]

i think that speaks more about how meh tac axes are no matter what you put on them

[stone dome]

big agree

[frank ether]

one of them is ok

[stiff glacier]

Tac axes have pretty shoddy stamina too no?

[sharp ember]

yeah, small stamina

[frank ether]

I'd actually put one of the tac axes above chainswords at this point

purely because of blessing access

[sharp ember]

you take that back

[frank ether]

no, I don't think I will

[sharp ember]

https://tenor.com/view/40k-commissar-chainsword-gif-19397214

[frank ether]

bromentum, headtaker

tasty

[sharp ember]

does tac axe whack hard enough to 1 headshot to get consistent use out of BM

on trash

[agile forge]

Heavy Sword without headtaker and either rampage or deathblow is sad as fuck

[stiff glacier]

Mk3 combat knife with fleshtearer and mercy killer is my new favourite

[frank ether]

hardly matters with how fast it swings

[stiff glacier]

Heavy sword has been real letdown for me

[frank ether]

It does fine

but I only used the ''good'' one

I cant talk for other marks

[sonic marlin]

man, 819

[sharp ember]

hmm I'd rather a chainsword with longer reach and revving then

mostly the mk4 chainsword though

not entirely sold on the mk13g

[frank ether]

both are rather eeh to me

I dont get it

diagonal attacks

only damage blessing is rampage

revs kinda suck

[stiff glacier]

Chainsword is ok for it works well for almost any vet build

[sharp ember]

rev is easy stunlock and damage when an opportunity presents itself or an enemy is alone

1 shots mutie

good boss damage if you're not being focused

[stiff glacier]

Whats the diffirence with newer chainaxe

[sharp ember]

absolutely mulches captain shields

[frank ether]

chainaxe is just

superior

[thick wolf]

another big E mission reward

finally, uncanny strike

[sharp ember]

welp i'm not gonna argue that right now

[frank ether]

its gonna look similar

when you compare it to anything

[thick rose]

I can't use a chainsword after getting into the old chainaxe

[frank ether]

psword, knife, combat axe etc

[sharp ember]

the new chaxe has cleaving lights and single target sticky heavies, and a higher damage rev

[thick wolf]

how fucked is this combat knife

since its a big E reward

[sharp ember]

it's very nice and easy to use

[stiff glacier]

So the light hits dont stick

[frank ether]

the chsword rev needs spice

[sharp ember]

nope, but they still mess up flak armor

[stiff glacier]

I should get that one then

[frank ether]

the thing is

on chainaxe past rework

you dont need to pay the rev tax

[sharp ember]

idk if this is new, but it seems sticky attacks now stunlock ragers as if they're being electrocuted

[frank ether]

you an just light or heavy depending on mark and it will be a rev attack

chsword needs that touch

I'm not saying it should be the same way as axe

[stiff glacier]

I wasnt that sold on mk 4 catachan knife but it might have been just me playing backpoker zealot at the time

[frank ether]

been a thing since they been introduced I believe

for the chaxe

[sharp ember]

specifically normal attacks and not the rev

but yeah

[stiff glacier]

I really need rev it up IV

[sharp ember]

I wanna build and try out a mk4 chainaxe with thrust

since its normal heavies are actually good at fighting hordes now

[frank ether]

Oh normal ones Idk but maybe it has enough impact to stun them pre-attack?

[agile forge]

Mark IX, use almost all heavy attacks and match the correct attacks to the correct targets.

Hard targets can be dealt with via V- H1 loop

Maulers best dealt with via horizontal heavies, treat them as tough dangerous trash mobs

[placid portal]

respect the mauler overhead

[sharp ember]

the zealot heavy sword used to be able to force that electrocution animation with its special attack, i think they gave it to chainaxe sticky attacks as a bonus interaction

[frank ether]

I never thought I'd enjoy the stickies

but it feels fine on chaxe

they did it

they made a rev attack that doesn't suck

[sharp ember]

letting us dodge out of them was huge

made it feel way more responsive

[placid portal]

Bad habits make me lose damage and stamina because I dodge during saw time

[sharp ember]

I have this kinda-memey mk4 chainaxe with Thunderous and use the sticky lights to slap things to death

and light crushers and maulers to death with it

[placid portal]

Mk4 chainaxe do be a sticky slap killer

[frank ether]

you can also light bosses to death

its great

[placid portal]

Fun melee

aight time to troll auric and use a shredda

Empra preserve my team from my troll

[frank ether]

oh no

[mystic owl]

That chain axe is hilarious with blue stim

even more when it's a zealot with the attk speed ult

[thick rose]

its pretty fun to chainaxe on zealot

the way it rips your screen around is kinda fun if you get into max flow and have some good music cranking

ziping about like an idiot

[placid portal]

went as well I've expected

inaccuracy + low damage + braced + no finesse + ammo hungry

teammates kill everything I am shooting at and kills them while I burn ammo trying to kill a damn trapper

[untold mulch]

Recon or autopistol for shittiest weapon?

[placid portal]

Imma just stick to my shotguns

[untold mulch]

[junior needle]

When you have to explain to zealot players on reddit why lacerate is a bad blessing

[thorn lark]

How the mighty have fallen 😦

[thorn lark]

It's Reddit...

[junior needle]

I know, they're extra stupid there.

[untold mulch]

Idk abotu Autopistol

but Recon was mighty 21 days and only one variant

[thorn lark]

Nah

[untold mulch]

Maybe prebeta

with infernus infinite cap

[junior needle]

Autopistol was top tier gun for months pre talent patch

[thorn lark]

That's nothing compared to og recon

[junior needle]

I think you mean

OG infernus

[thorn lark]

Yeah... With the bigger they are. Boss deleter.

[untold mulch]

Infernus was the one doing all the shit

[junior needle]

Yeah

[thorn lark]

Yep

[untold mulch]

The gun was worse then

[thorn lark]

The base was worse yeah

[untold mulch]

Had less damage even, but Infernus was a lot better

then infernus just is getting gutted constantly

[untold mulch]

Damn

[thorn lark]

And top tier means s tier with the bolter in its own class

That was og pinning fire + blaze

Making mid stuff completely broken

[fluid solstice]

Is the game lagging lately, or is my wifi just shit?

[junior needle]

Server been goofin it lately

But possibly both

[fluid solstice]

Probably both

[spare lance]

veteran waepon recommend plz

[sharp ember]

agripinaa braced autogun

[spare lance]

shotgun is bad?

[sharp ember]

shotgun is OK

my favorite is agripinaa shotgun

[spare lance]

i love Lawbringer Mk VI Combat Shotgun

[thick rose]

what do you have on your agrip shotgun?

[sharp ember]

i think i run flak + maniac on it, with manstopper and scattershot blessings

i use deadshot talent to maximize crit chance

I try to crit the slug shots and cleave enemies in a line

[spare lance]

Laspistol
What are the advantages of?

[sharp ember]

and crit cleaves then fuel scattershot, giving me even MORE crit chance

[sharp ember]

laspistols are very fast to take out, and do good damage at close range

good for people who like to fight in melee all the time

very low recoil too

[spare lance]

oh sounds good

[odd sparrow]

Also crit/weakspot dmg is crazy on the laspistol

[spare lance]

thx

[agile forge]

Very spammy.

[light ore]

laspistol literally makes you immune to ranged attacks

with ghost blessing

so it's a mobile weapon with great damage and a large ammo pool that makes you immune to an entire damage type

kinda have to hit heads with it tho

[clear narwhal]

Build Updated, I'm very happy with it so lmk what you guys think.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b20e76f-b1b5-44a1-825a-b535065729bf/bagpowersword-pubstomp-auric-maelstrom-updated-050224

Regularly topscoring in Auric Maelstrom with 700k+ damage

Focus on Specialists/Elites and Hordeclearing, would reccomend grabbing someone else to handle boss damage.

[junior needle]

Not as good as regular damage but better than average due to beeg finesse modifiers.

[junior needle]

It's a lot of odd choices imo. Exe/deadshot/weapon spec on a bag, demo team but not demo stockpile.

Also, precision strikes on a bag

Very unusual

Not great value

Changing that to longshot would work quite a lot better

[dusty sluice]

Ik it’s odd but would this be fine for plasma

Helps me hit some bps

[agile forge]

I don't like MF on slow single shot weapons

Ironically

I prefer focus target for plasma a lot

[clear narwhal]

Demo team and not Demo stockpile only if you want Executioners stance instead of Voice of command, there's details for that in the description

They both are just a solution to generating grenades at the end of the day

Precision strikes is just more damage if you hit the head, and deadshot is more crits for free

both good things

[junior needle]

I looked that over, and you should know that WS doesn't work with your bag the way you think it does

It's only on the first shot

[clear narwhal]

It's not 10 shots if you get ten stacks?

[junior needle]

Nope

[clear narwhal]

tf

[junior needle]

You get a ton of redundant crit for 1 shot

and a fire rate boost

For a duration

[clear narwhal]

Well it's also good for the increased mobility on the power sword and you still get faster fire rate on the BAG

[dusty sluice]

It’s kinda fun

[clear narwhal]

Longhsot on the Agripinaa isn't great to be fair, you need some good range to get it's bonus going and at that point you end up missing a lot of your shots from the spread of the gun.

[untold mulch]

Its poorly made for single shot

[hearty panther]

Longshot should be soft reworked imo. Make it negate damage fall off instead of being a damage boost.

[agile forge]

It's great for accurate bullet hoses

[crude ermine]

Besides revolver but revolver works with any keystone

[untold mulch]

The amount of redundant crit is so dumb

[clear narwhal]

I think we could really do with a hip-fire talent somewhere on the vet tree

mix things up a bit

make it work well with Bags

[untold mulch]

god I wish, but Zealot got it for some fucking reason

[junior needle]

So the issue with precision strikes is that weakspot damage only works on the bonus damage of the weakspot hit, and not the whole damage. So that damage boost on this gun only applies to 54 damage.

It's very low value on guns that have low finesse modifiers, which is the BAG's at a 1.3 modifier.

Deadshot is an unusual choice for brautos due to large stamina drain but you may find it more tolerable with stripped down/dnd/the natural hipfiring capability of the agri.

It's also quite hard to reliably hit weakspots on purpose with the guns

Further reducing the value.

[clear narwhal]

dnd is part of the build, and I occasionally run Stripped down too

The weakspot hits are fairly reliable on bosses and larger enemies

[junior needle]

Bosses and larger enemies

[clear narwhal]

if you know the spray pattern of the Agripinaa, you can still hit headshots on smaller enemies

[junior needle]

Which lowers the general value.

[clear narwhal]

what would you suggest instead of Precision strikes?

Also, don't forget it applies to melee too, meaning you can do serious damage with the power sword push attack

1-2 crusher is gone

[junior needle]

Can happen and "happens often enough to justify this talent" are different things. Also yes that's true. But the same thing with weakspot damage applies to that.

Ultimately I would never suggest taking precision on bags due to very finesse modifiers and the comparative lack of headshot reliability due to their hipfiring/braced nature. Taking it for your melee is fine if you think it justifies the expenditure.

Longshot is more for helping to retain your close range killing power at longer ranges. Without rending taken into account you can just consider it as countering falloff. With rending it's just a damage boost.

If you really want to blast things in the face, take marksman (not the keystone) with that point instead.

20% power on all weakspot hits for 10s.

[tiny summit]

Seeing brautos referred to bags feels wrong

[clear narwhal]

Is the 20% power really more effective than 30% damage?

[junior needle]

30% weakspot damage is not 30% damage

Very important distinction

[clear narwhal]

ok, but is Power 20% damage?

or is that subject to some modifiers as well

[junior needle]

20% damage, cleave, and stagger

[tiny summit]

Thing is for that line of talents, if you want to get to ammo or elite dmg, deadshot and suppression immunity also aren't nice with brautos

[junior needle]

Weakspot and crit damage only work off the bonus damage of weakspot hits/crits, which makes them strictly worse than damage and their value vary drastically.

[junior needle]

He's already taking deadshot

[clear narwhal]

Deadshot is good imo

[thick rose]

hrmmmm

[junior needle]

It is good, but weapon particular

[clear narwhal]

The sway reduction can be very handy and the crit chance can proc some good crit chains

[junior needle]

Not as good as on IAG's due to the low crit modifier though.

[clear narwhal]

Probably, but I'm not using an IAG

[tiny summit]

Ah

[junior needle]

Mhm, hence why it's an unusual pick

[clear narwhal]

Well if it's a good perk, then it can be good on multiple weapons

[junior needle]

You could also take the 10% toughness dr node

It is good on multiple weapons, but generally much worse on automatics

[tiny summit]

If things are dead, less worry about DR

[junior needle]

Also, even with a similar rate of fire, deadshot is much better on ciag than recon 6d

Due to the crit damage difference

(and overall performance difference but we'll ignore that for now)

[clear narwhal]

Well, ideally you'll not be using it all the time, you can go back and forth between hipfiring for casual killing, and ADS when you need something dead quick or if it's at mid range

[tiny summit]

I don't value bracing the agri that much

But maybe that's because I haven't put enough time in

[clear narwhal]

It has a more dependable spray pattern when you brace it

[tiny summit]

Disagree

[clear narwhal]

can let you easily get kills on specialists or elites at range quickly

[junior needle]

You wanna stop/crouch/brace for the best ranged bracing performance

It hipfires in bursts quite well up to midrange

[hearty panther]

i only brace the graia for the extra dakka

[clear narwhal]

I haven't tried the Graia, but I want to

[agile forge]

Graia's a weird one right

Somehow bracing it makes it shoot faster

Although tbf Graia's the planet that gets overrun by Chaos in Spess Mehrine

So maybe there's some warp fuckery

[tiny summit]

Simple. It's fuller auto.

https://youtu.be/bmmqx5O10Ic?si=RSlVI8X7EP9A8WrE

[untold mulch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1021952147664928838/1124605009179455578/1451172606_gained-brouzouf.gif

EYE Divine Cybermancy still feels like a fever dream

[tiny summit]

There's a lost charm in weird localization with how interconnected the world is now

[untold mulch]

Fr

One example I don't hear much talked about but always get a laugh with my friends

Halo 3 ending

When Hood talks with the Arbiter about if Chief died

In english is "Were it so easy"

In Spanish the localizers put it spanish "It was very easy"

[hearty panther]

lmao

[tiny summit]

Spanish Chainsaw Man wild

[untold mulch]

Like Arbiter is being told about the maybe tragic death of a hero

and the localizers put the Arbiter going proudly "DAMN THIS SHIT WAS SO EASY"

[tiny summit]

Also fuck new trilogy snubbing Arbiter's role

[untold mulch]

Makes sense if you translate directly to english-spanish

but that phrase can't be translated directly in any way

[untold mulch]

Fr

Where is Shinyface, I need him coming back to kick ass

[tiny summit]

Arbiter and Chief deserved more bro moments

[untold mulch]

100%

[tiny summit]

Also Spanish chainsaw man https://youtube.com/shorts/8by83ur6lnQ?si=W-d8h66r9nMFGnWS

[zealous wyvern]

portuguese is also like that iirc

[agile forge]

That one star wars sub too

Do Not Want!

[zealous wyvern]

they just decided that any iberi roman languages have women speak like porn stars

[untold mulch]

Why the fuck

Remembers me the vending machine of Atomic Heart in spanish has the same damn the Spanish VA maybe got confused on what genre the game is?

[thick wolf]

EYE feels like a more wacked af version of 40k and I don't know how I feel about it

but goddamn Streum really were hitting that cocaine when making it

[wary galleon]

current damn malestrom is like getting pimpslapped by your dad as a 3 year old

that scab spam xD

[sonic marlin]

worth upgrading? Feels like I can't get a better one

[midnight totem]

You can def get a 360 and above

[sonic marlin]

yeah sure ill just do that

[midnight totem]

Yeah I have at least triple that in lasgun 1a's

Not to mention vrak 3s

[empty kettle]

Keep rolling who knows you might roll 380 with T4 perks and blessings

No losing unless you quit

[sonic marlin]

im out of dockets

grinding this feels like ass

[midnight totem]

It is ass

[pliant sentinel]

people actually run autoguns?

[sonic marlin]

lol

autoguns are like the best thing rn

[radiant chasm]

Yee autoguns are great

[pliant sentinel]

I've never had much luck with them

I usually stick to lasguns

I use a few

im generic

[midnight totem]

I got four builds for my vet and I run different weapons on all of them

[pliant sentinel]

I've been having a blast with the mk iii hellbore lately

[hollow ibex]

Autoguns are generally stronger than las rn

[pliant sentinel]

shouldn't it be the opposite?

[odd sparrow]

Columnus mk V is one of the top tier weapons due to insane dps from the combined fire rate and insane finesse(crit/weakspot) modifiers

[pliant sentinel]

Interesting

[hollow ibex]

No clue about the lore justifications but autoguns in general are very strong right now

[untold mulch]

Whvich IMO is a disgrace 🗿

[untold mulch]

Lore wise, yes

Balance wise, game do game

[midnight totem]

Plasma gun and chains word, knife and revolver or agrip headhunter, power sword and revolver or vraks 3 head hunter

[untold mulch]

Lore wise, using Autogun over Lasgun without expensive Special Ammo is a
But Why?

[pliant sentinel]

I remember lasguns being a lot weaker earlier in the game's life

[midnight totem]

Bolter and devil claw

[pliant sentinel]

I've noticed they're a bit stronger now

[untold mulch]

Pretty much all weapons got buffed

more or less

Recon I see you

[pliant sentinel]

My favorite

[untold mulch]

If only wasn't shit

[pliant sentinel]

VII for the win

[midnight totem]

There's one real reason for autoguns over lasguns

Lasguns cauterize wounds

Can*

[untold mulch]

That is not entirely true

[pliant sentinel]

both variants of the recon las are fun af

[untold mulch]

Like the myth of energy weapons cauterizing wounds is a little underexplaining

Little physics class

[odd sparrow]

Bolter was the top dog for a bit early on. But mk XII lasgun has been a generically strong pick for almost the entire games life time. Only getting outdone by others being EVEN stronger with the release of the skill tree update

[untold mulch]

what happens to water when RAPIDLY heated

Yeahhhhhhhhhhh

[pliant sentinel]

that mag cap is underwhelming

15 rounds is criminal

[midnight totem]

Also higher rate of fire. I'd say autoguns would be more effective against say

[odd sparrow]

I wish bolter was a bit more powerful to make up for the clunkiness. But apparently you can tech the holster animation

[untold mulch]

Tehy are fun, but once you reach Heresy/Damnation diff they are shit

[midnight totem]

A poxwalker swarm

[odd sparrow]

By pressing reload then sprinting to cancel the reload

[pliant sentinel]

What's the alternative?

MK XII

[odd sparrow]

Does need an empty bullet in the mag tho

[untold mulch]

Lasgun wise?

Infantry lasgun the best one is Ia

[pliant sentinel]

I have the xii I think

one with the wire stock

fires really fast

it crits a lot

[wary galleon]

just played with an ogryn that would voicechat the beeping firealarm sometimes

it was so fucking random

laughed my ass off

[pliant sentinel]

speaking of ogryns

why the fuck don't they have bolters

[wary galleon]

he carrid the team so hard hahaha love you baz whereever you are

[pliant sentinel]

heresy

[wary galleon]

economy

its too expensive to let ogryns shoot full auto and use every weapon

they literally break their weapons all the time

[pliant sentinel]

fair

the stubber is enough for me tbh