this is real
#veteran-class
finite imp
Imagine coming to attention because space Marines have entered the room and JohnDoe pipes up and is like DO YALL SHIT IN YER SUITS?
exotic sandal
Servo skulls don’t fight though, could be a good tool for reconnaissance. Maybe send a servo skull out and it can highlight every enemy in a room
finite imp
"we are all getting executed for dinner."
serene sage
Servo skulls don’t fight though, could be a good tool for reconnaissance. Maybe ...
Enhanced Target Priority at home
finite imp
"yes, guardsmen. We do." Pops him with a bolt pistol
exotic sandal
Even in death, Jerry’s skull still serves the inquisition!
serene sage
it reloads for you, scout, heal, etc.
finite imp
Imagine a servo skull picking you up in a fight
exotic sandal
I dunno I’d rather have the cherub
finite imp
Spotting enemies
exotic sandal
Cherubs are more grim dark than servo skulls anyway
finite imp
Bro said servo skills aren't grim dark
serene sage
finite imp
Damn
frank ether
oo I can already see this being an ult for a new class where you can customize it
finite imp
We got servo skulls at home
exotic sandal
Replace grenades with servo skulls
finite imp
Replace grim grabbers with servo skulls
The revolver has been patched to fire servo skulls until further notice
frank ether
would skitari also mean arc weapons
vagrant hornet
Is the shotgun pretty much trash? Or does it have niche use like killing special mobs/bosses
frank ether
It can be built to fit your needs either cleave or higher damage
south garnet
Depends on the shotgun, they all have use case
tough tiger
Shotguns can ragdoll ragers iirc
junior needle
would skitari also mean arc weapons
A skitarii or tech adept would mean the fun mechanicus weapons
Just like a xenos means xenos weapons
frank ether
A skitarii or tech adept would mean the fun mechanicus weapons
some of those weapons look really funky I want them in the game but its probably too good to happen
junior needle
some of those weapons look really funky I want them in the game but its probably...
Good of you to remember the important lesson fatshark has taught us all
frank ether
Good of you to remember the important lesson fatshark has taught us all
as much as I like to dunk on fs adding a whole new class and doing it properly is some effort
design, balancing, artwork, playtesting etc
and then unique weapons it would come along with
trim steppe
design, balancing, artwork, playtesting etc
HAH you think FS playtests?
trim steppe
Like just the fire rework botched launch was proof that they dont even playtest
It wasn't even bugged, they just had the values too high
junior needle
There were playtesters in here
But I assume they do quite a few things without either playtesting or listening to playtesters if they do
finite imp
they just dont care for our opinions
they just avoid this discord like the plague. We've been flagged for terrorism too many times
junior needle
Or the playtesters aren't giving good feedback, like how one guy said "Oh the recons boyos will be happy with a build next patch :^)"
And then it was nothing
trim steppe
They aren't playtesting, listening to playtesters, or they are hiring absolute 5-hour-in normies to test
tough tiger
Bro playtests on uprising
finite imp
Bro playtests on uprising
put Azreal in charge of patches
we will never do damage again
what even is this question
both of our weapons are literally anti crusher
late hatch
bro is probably slashing them
finite imp
lmfao
frank basin
The real question is: can he dodge 8-9 crushers same time?
tough tiger
If enough space, yes
late hatch
preacher gives everyone time to deal with crushers
finite imp
The real question is: can he dodge 8-9 crushers same time?
krak grenades and VoC ez
junior needle
In fairness, the overheads have ridiculous splash and it'll still hit me sometimes even if I dodge it
frank basin
krak grenades and VoC ez
Demolition team
tough tiger
In fairness, the overheads have ridiculous splash and it'll still hit me sometim...
I think its a server issue tbh
finite imp
NOT EVEN A SINGLE COMPLIMENT
tough tiger
Cuz i can stand right next to overhead impact and be fine
finite imp
"Just joined a DT public game and some guy was running around at full speed with 13 stamina bars killing everything at lightning speed chanting "COCAINE" and "COMPLIMENT ME"
crisp abyss
hello guys i wanna ask a dumb question , why no one use smoke nades?
frank basin
hello guys i wanna ask a dumb question , why no one use smoke nades?
Many of us forgot to use them.
Most of people favor damage than utility’s
Well I’m the person has one loadout use smoke grenade. Which when room full of gunners
I think people would say “it suck”
crisp abyss
do i have toz be in the smoke to work?
frank basin
In smoke you block LoS of ranged enemies
crisp abyss
or them?
crisp abyss
how about between us and gunner?
frank basin
They go melee range
When you get to close
Far away they continuously firing one spot
crisp abyss
melee enemy can stil fuck me up in somke right?
night locust
Preacher? New class
Its has always been called preacher zealot
frank basin
Enemies can see you in smoke
Melee enemies
And yes they still can see you
Smoke grenade does have small stagger
I use this just throw at someone got pounce by hound far away
crisp abyss
got it gunner turn to melee with somke or blind fire the somke
frank basin
Once time
night locust
hello guys i wanna ask a dumb question , why no one use smoke nades?
probably because other grenades do the killing for you.
frank basin
got it gunner turn to melee with somke or blind fire the somke
No they still firing their gun blindly
junior needle
hello guys i wanna ask a dumb question , why no one use smoke nades?
Other grenades actually kill things and shreds especially are amazing for shtf scenarios and generally save you and your teams ass.
Smoke blocks off sight for ranged enemies a bit but they still keep shooting into it if you want to hide in there.
frank basin
Only when you leave the smoke radius the gunner or shooter reangling targeting you
night locust
can smoke disable melee?
frank basin
Smoke only stagger melee enemies
When they are close
Middle ground of smoke grenade
They still can see you
night locust
would have been godtier on clutches to save downed teamates if smoke totally disables everyone
frank basin
Flash grenade does disable enemies
Only zealot get it
Smoke save team getting shot from gunners and reapers from distance
Like hiding yourself from ranged enemies
night locust
flashes does it momentarily. Smoke is continuous ykwim
frank basin
Smoke has duration yeah
crisp abyss
zealot with flashbang
idle carbon
small quick flash that you throw like zealot knives for instant stun on demand of small groups
crisp abyss
yknow zealot is just like scout a glasscannon
crisp abyss
i once saw a zealot two hit a crusher with a powerhammer
thick wolf
Anakin Skywalker hates it
frank ether
better yet, veteran smoke is replaced with pocket sand lol
would be more useful
unironically
hardy wasp
what voice is best with the scion helmet?
teal oasis
Is the krak grenade worth it over the shredder if I mainly use a boltgun, also what melee is good to combo with the boltgun
frank basin
The damn PS 🧌
crisp abyss
you use the boltgun as a "OH SHIT" weapon right? get a horde clearing melee
teal oasis
you use the boltgun as a "OH SHIT" weapon right? get a horde clearing melee
I mainly use it on the chonky boys, so yea it's just a oh shit button
serene bough
Is the krak grenade worth it over the shredder if I mainly use a boltgun, also w...
Kraks are useful but arguably shredders are better in most scenarios
I pick my grenades based on how well my weapons deal with armor
crisp abyss
I mainly use it on the chonky boys, so yea it's just a oh shit button
power sword , devil sword , shovel, anything with wide swing
thorn radish
i start to think auto reload should be a node instead taken out of vet entirely
man do i miss em on the vet
frank basin
i start to think auto reload should be a node instead taken out of vet entirely
The orgyn took our job
tiny summit
Love that ogryn and psyker both get better gun dps abilities than vet...
hardy wasp
what voice is best with the scion helmet?
(I currently have male professional)
thorn radish
disrupt desitny would slap on vet
crisp abyss
yknow i would use the boltgun if it wasnt so slow, i dont mind the recoil
teal oasis
Imo it gets pulled out to slow
tiny summit
Wish exe had a longer base duration and exe kills gave X secs over complete refresh
crisp abyss
wat
frank basin
Wish exe had a longer base duration and exe kills gave X secs over complete refr...
I want auto reload back
torpid bluff
Ive never used the knife, is this a decent roll?
torpid bluff
what should i replace, or should i scrap it for a blessing
frank basin
Just scrap with the blessing
torpid bluff
which one, Haymaker?
frank basin
Maybe
frank ether
I just finished a game
where a total of 7 teammates ragequit
another one bites the dust
frank basin
You gonna scrap or keep it?
frank ether
You gonna scrap or keep it?
I'm gonna keep it as a reminder of my failures
frank basin
Harsh
frank ether
who knows maybe one day FS will make iLas do carapace damage
then this roll can be somewhat saved
idle carbon
I wonder if, by Darktide balancing, actual storm troopers would be functionally resistant to the hordes of moebian 6th shooters, stalkers, and gunners we face on a regular basis
frank basin
What’s iconic for veteran then?
idle carbon
that also makes me wonder why the scab gunners, who for the most part look like stormtroopers / grenadiers, don't have carapace armor
suppose they're their own thing
terse idol
that also makes me wonder why the scab gunners, who for the most part look like ...
Uh
too expensive
Most guardsmen have Flak
Tempestus scions get Carapace
Like Karskin
And Scab gunners aren't elite
finite imp
What’s iconic for veteran then?
The mk1 lasgun and the catachan knife
It's the standard issue militarum kit for a private
junior needle
And Scab gunners aren't elite
News to me
frank basin
The mk1 lasgun and the catachan knife
I means the base stats. Like ogryn iconic are toughness damage reduction
finite imp
If you ever read the catachan devils they actually describe everything in an guardsmans standard issue pack
finite imp
I means the base stats. Like ogryn iconic are toughness damage reduction
Oh we have the highest suck down ammo rate
It's super valuable when you want pubbies to hate you
finite imp
No
finite imp
Scab gunners are literally nurgle thugs with guns
junior needle
Dregs you mean
finite imp
They just happen to have a stubber
junior needle
scabs are guard traitors
idle carbon
And Scab gunners aren't elite
they do get hotshot volley guns, so that implies a certain level of elite, no?
terse idol
Yeah, I guess you're right
finite imp
they do get hotshot volley guns, so that implies a certain level of elite, no?
I don't know if the chaos has a rank system of weapon issue at this level lol
junior needle
The hotshot volley guns that I should have
idle carbon
at least on tabletop, hotshot volley guns are only found in the hands of tempestus scions
finite imp
Unless some rando on a forge world picks them up
I mean we are fighting inside of literally weapons manufactorims
terse idol
at least on tabletop, hotshot volley guns are only found in the hands of tempest...
huh, guess they are
frank basin
I’m envious the traitor guard has hotshot volley gun
terse idol
I mean maybe the 6'st keeps most of their infantry lighter
finite imp
The heretics aint gonna be like don't let sarge see me with this volley gun or hell give me lashings
idle carbon
I don't know if the chaos has a rank system of weapon issue at this level lol
the moebian 6th basically turned as a whole regiment, meaning they very likely kept their rank and weapons systems to hand
tactics and strategy are what give the imperium a hand up over chaos, which is why traitor guard are so dangerous
terse idol
Only like Crushers have carapace
finite imp
the moebian 6th basically turned as a whole regiment, meaning they very likely k...
Don't seem very dangerous to me B)
junior needle
Like the reapers bracelet
finite imp
Maybe they should do more coke and sprinting
idle carbon
Don't seem very dangerous to me B)
tell that to a stalker horde with scab gunner support lol, most dangerous thing out there
frank basin
terse idol
seems like Carpaace is waayy too heavy
finite imp
A crusher looks so fucking uncomfortable in that armor lol
There's no way that's not chaffing
Dude dune 2 (knife but in the desert this time) comes out March 1st
Hype
Well
Part 2
idle carbon
imagine if Fathshark actually add in Scab Stormtroopers, complete with hellguns and carapace over everything except upper legs / lower torso (or all carapace if we want to be cruel), the rest flak
ranged enemies with majority carapace would drive us up the wall lol
finite imp
Hey guys we know y'all asked for heavy weapons so we added them but only for your enemies have fun
terse idol
I'd be down to clown
idle carbon
not only that, but you only encounter them in patrol-sized units
you're in for a kicking
frank basin
Hype like autism
idle carbon
funny you say that
there is a scab with a plasma gun mentioned in the files
finite imp
LOL
idle carbon
not like a captain, something more common
frank basin
I think they scrapped
idle carbon
you never know what might happen
finite imp
Suddenly plasma beams start getting emitted from the pack of dregs. Lovely
frank basin
Adding plasma enemy just high threat than sniper
finite imp
Consider what plasma does to carapace yeah that would be a priority 1 target
umbral scaffold
finite imp
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/932099452771123212/1050935066282438708/ca...
What would knife users do without me
They need me
idle carbon
Adding plasma enemy just high threat than sniper
I want Darktide to turn into a bullet hell, if only briefly
watch the tracers for where plasma will be, and don't be there lol
finite imp
I want Darktide to turn into a bullet hell, if only briefly
watch the tracers fo...
Just do a sniper mutation lol
frank basin
I want Darktide to turn into a bullet hell, if only briefly
watch the tracers fo...
They need remove cooldown dodge so you can do the dance
finite imp
It quickly becomes that
finite imp
They need remove cooldown dodge so you can do the dance
That would buff knives to high hell because of riposte
frank basin
That would buff knives to high hell because of riposte
Yes and turn game into bullets hell
idle carbon
honestly I would like to see more specials that are just out to kill you, like the sniper
none of this pansy disabler bull, just trying to put a bullet through my skull
frank basin
Mini-boss scab captain roaming lmao
finite imp
none of this pansy disabler bull, just trying to put a bullet through my skull
15 MAULAS
junior needle
That would buff knives to high hell because of riposte
Riposte lasts for 6s
finite imp
Riposte lasts for 6s
Hell yeah
junior needle
Don’t think it stacks either
finite imp
When no cool down dodges it would never end
Let's go
Buff the knife I ain't scared
Go ahead
Feed me more power
junior needle
Dodge cool down is not an impediment to uptime in this instance
finite imp
My primary form of travel will become dodge
frank basin
Dodges wait between are
rancid veldt
whats the m35 magnacore worst stat?
finite imp
whats the m35 magnacore worst stat?
Just say plasma
junior needle
Ammo apparently, but you don’t exactly want to hard dump it either
terse idol
I think they scrapped
could be added laterr
frank basin
could be added laterr
Swedes do not take crunch time
They work slow and layback just like medieval intended
finite imp
They must pjlow the fjelds
frank basin
American game industry take crunch time and fasting the processed game like capitalism
late hatch
frank ether
whats most suprising to me is how much praise pd3 got from media
late hatch
Was Overkill base in Sweden?
idk
finite imp
American game industry take crunch time and fasting the processed game like capi...
We make terrible games faster
frank basin
We make terrible games faster
Indeed
frank ether
Either way GTFO devs taking their own approach at a heist game I heard
I'm curious to see how that will turn out
idle carbon
I mean, Battlefield? also swedes
also terrible, at launch anyway, and to an certain extent now
rancid veldt
Ammo apparently, but you don’t exactly want to hard dump it either
ty
frank ether
There is no saving 2042
late hatch
whats most suprising to me is how much praise pd3 got from media
modern journalism is mostly a joke. backscratching and getting freebies and advertisers is more important than accuracy. gamergate never ended
finite imp
It's all just shareholder and stock gooners. Selling at game launch so when the stock plumments and everyone realizes it's shit they can buy it back in the same afternoon, then profit off the hype of the next shitty game the studio farts out. Rinse and repeat.
frank ether
modern journalism is mostly a joke. backscratching and getting freebies and adve...
yeah you're right, even people who seem critical can just be wined and dined to sugarcoat it
frank basin
Gamergate is that website article about gaming?
frank ether
I only trust steam reviews at this point but even thats not as reliable
be it gamers review bombing over silly things or AAA companies just pumping fake reviews
late hatch
Gamergate is that website article about gaming?
gamergate was a big expose of a bunch of journos that were all friends reviewing friends games and giving good reviews etc
frank ether
like diablo 4 was pumping fake steam reviews last I heard
frank basin
“Review bombing is not fun in experience” -Blizzard
junior needle
I only trust steam reviews at this point but even thats not as reliable
Considering the rating for suicide squad, it's definitely prone to being fudged
frank ether
My dads too busy buying milk can't relate
frank ether
Considering the rating for suicide squad, it's definitely prone to being fudged
oo yea thats a game
finite imp
Considering the rating for suicide squad, it's definitely prone to being fudged
Suicide squad makes you wanna insert tasteless suicide joke and post as an IGN article
junior needle
Had tons of positive reviews barely out of release, and that game is DOG. You had accounts with like 30 hours on it reviewing it a day later
frank ether
let me guess
live service
hero shooter?
I have consumed zero media about the game
didnt even see the trailer
finite imp
live service
Live service games pfuhh
frank basin
Day Before
finite imp
Survival
frank ether
plot about super heroes or something
finite imp
Open workd
frank ether
also third person
finite imp
Crafting
frank ether
with destiny style loot elements
frank basin
Oh you means Outrider?
frank ether
did I get it right so far?
finite imp
Circle cursor and everything
frank basin
It is the Outriders?
Outriders is little bit destiny
Looter shooter but I finished the game story
finite imp
The people who run the show at DC and Marvel corporate are complete idiots
Tee total completely out of touch idiots
Who are destroying a very loved set of franchises to make a bunch of lizards happy
frank ether
super heroes I sleep
finite imp
Smh
finite imp
I never even liked super hero movies and it's a shame they are burning it all down
finite imp
its been milked enough and I kinda grew up
Yeah space Marines aren't super heros
Doofus
frank ether
equally boring
next furnace
We found the definition of Insanity
finite imp
frank ether
unga bunga guy in power armor
finite imp
frank ether
nö
frank basin
Looking*
frank basin
Locking what?
finite imp
Locking in is what you do when the teacher told you and your friend in the back of the classroom to shut the fuck up right as you just told the funniest joke
Locking in is when you lean forward in your seat cuz your little cousin beat you at Mario Cart and called you garbage
Locked in
It's to suddenly get serious
frank basin
Is that new slang? I dont like new slang
rancid veldt
does rampage exist on the cadia chainsword? just upgraded 15 to blue and didnt get one
frank basin
does rampage exist on the cadia chainsword? just upgraded 15 to blue and didnt g...
Yes
finite imp
Too bad the world is spinning and we traveling 20,000 mph
We change in this mf
Obama was right
rancid veldt
which is better?
frank basin
The right obvious
junior needle
Likely right in terms of stats because the damage difference is fairly small and the mobility disparity will be surprisingly big
junior needle
Mobility isn't really a dump stat on melee
Which can make it hard on stat hungry weapons
finite imp
3 damage
rancid veldt
Which can make it hard on stat hungry weapons
ty
frank basin
Mobility is quite need for in term dodging distance
finite imp
I promise you that 3 damage ain't gonna push you across that break point my brother
rancid veldt
I promise you that 3 damage ain't gonna push you across that break point my brot...
thanks!
junior needle
I promise you that 3 damage ain't gonna push you across that break point my brot...
Well, not probably not just 3 damage if you look at the inspect stats
But yeah. minor difference unlikely to affect breakpoints
finite imp
Well, not probably not just 3 damage if you look at the inspect stats
I love this discord
junior needle
finite imp
Imagine if cats actually moved like that
Uh oh the hydroxizene has arrived
Knock knock
Zzz
tiny summit
whats most suprising to me is how much praise pd3 got from media
its actually not. If media experiences a favorable event or previews, it isnt surprising if a preview event is the company's best hand being shown
frank ether
its actually not. If media experiences a favorable event or previews, it isnt su...
a few gaming channels I follow released videos that arent exactly reviews but quite positive impressions of it
tiny summit
I played Cyberpunk 2077 at launch. Minimal bugs, minimal glitches, nothing that detracted from my experience and ran pretty ok. If I was a reviewer I would have a pretty glowing review of its performance
frank ether
I get what you mean though
tiny summit
a few gaming channels I follow released videos that arent exactly reviews but qu...
yea, if they have a positive impression and they are honest about their experience that isnt them lying
frank ether
cyberpunk release wasnt terrible on performance for pc
but it was hella buggy
for me
finite imp
Naw bro
frank ether
and I was disappointed with the game compared to what was promised
radiant chasm
Not as bad performance issues as console was having
finite imp
They were just features
frank ether
I had a GTX 1070 and game ran better than darktide release did lol
radiant chasm
But i had a lot of bugs, and a few completely game breaking
tiny summit
the most amount of bugs I experienced with Cyberpunk 2077 were the funny cars spawning in buildings and blowing up or falling from the sky. It was funny when they happened but nowhere near a frequency that took me out of an experience
finite imp
I had a GTX 1070 and game ran better than darktide release did lol
Cd projekt red is a bit bigger of a studio
frank ether
Not as bad performance issues as console was having
I think releasing that game on PS4 was a red flag from beginning
finite imp
To be fair
radiant chasm
I had a motorcycle where the front wheel would just thrust back and forth when i pressed accelerate
tiny summit
that said my praise of cyberpunk 2077 was "the best ubisoft style open world I played in a while with some good writing carrying it"
frank ether
the joke of ''next gen'' game releasing on last gen hardware that was considered old even back when it was new
finite imp
that said my praise of cyberpunk 2077 was "the best ubisoft style open world I p...
The dark souls of assassin's creed style open world survival crafting. 9/10 meh
tiny summit
and I was disappointed with the game compared to what was promised
that understandable. I went in with the expectations it wasnt going to be as hyped as it was. It just wasnt gonna happen
frank ether
and AI having weird reactions or no reactions
frank ether
also what the game had storywise and world building
just lackluster compared to hype train
finite imp
For some reason my character glitched out and hired a gay hooker >:C thanks a lot CDPR
frank ether
based
radiant chasm
Old cold blood worked in my berserker build now it is a strict stealth/precision thing post dlc rework
finite imp
NO IT WAS A GLITCH IM NOT GAAAAAAY
tiny summit
and AI having weird reactions or no reactions
came across one of those police/gang fights. AI bugged and they were all frozen in place, able to run up behind and takedown lmao
near sable
haha oops
radiant chasm
also what the game had storywise and world building
That is what happens when 2/3rds of the game’s story is cut
frank ether
came across one of those police/gang fights. AI bugged and they were all frozen ...
also cyberpunk despite being a fiasco the internet just forgiven them
tiny summit
For some reason my character glitched out and hired a gay hooker >:C thanks a lo...
mhmm mhmm
finite imp
THE GAME WAS SO BUGGY I DID IT AGAIN BY TOTAL ACCIDENT
radiant chasm
Cause reaves did such a good johnny they cut out the 2 other engrams you could have got
frank ether
That is what happens when 2/3rds of the game’s story is cut
sounds about right
finite imp
STUPID BUGS AND THIS LOOPING GAY SEX SCENE
tiny summit
also cyberpunk despite being a fiasco the internet just forgiven them
plenty of people are wary but they made their money and did update their game to an ok state with a good dlc expansion.
frank ether
but just disappointing compared to what it could have been
similar to darktide in a sense
radiant chasm
I think it was Yorinobu and Blackhand that were gonna be the other engram options you could get
finite imp
MY DAD WALKED IN EVERY SINGLE TIME
tiny summit
are you surprised when people still buy EA games?
frank ether
sure its a finished product mostly
radiant chasm
But that was canned
frank ether
but still end up wanting more
late hatch
and AI having weird reactions or no reactions
comparing CP77 npc ai to GTAV npc ai is sadge
finite imp
are you surprised when people still buy EA games?
I used to not be but at this point I'm seriously starting to wonder if we would even be able to fight a meteor headed towards earth much less think collectively
finite imp
comparing CP77 npc ai to GTAV npc ai is sadge
What is sadge
frank ether
comparing CP77 npc ai to GTAV npc ai is sadge
werent they supposedly overhauling npc AI by now
including police AI?
frank ether
I havent touched 2077 since its release
finite imp
werent they supposedly overhauling npc AI by now
They did
But it's not hugely different
finite imp
It just feels like something that should have been there to start
tiny summit
while I liked its writing, I do dislike how little of the story is of V's own journey of being a Night City Legend. You go in, get a montage of you working through the criminal underworld, get 1 big job and then "oh V you're dying"
finite imp
Also becoming a legend apparently means massacring 14 suburban counties worth of people
tiny summit
I used to not be but at this point I'm seriously starting to wonder if we would ...
you'd have a not so insignifant amount of people calling it a woke conspiracy
late hatch
while I liked its writing, I do dislike how little of the story is of V's own jo...
but they sold the game with that first rescue mission where you get to see a comatose womans booba 
finite imp
Yeah V that serial killing mass murderer that does trick shots of people's brains all over the floor. What a lovable guy
Someone name a drink after him
tiny summit
Also becoming a legend apparently means massacring 14 suburban counties worth of...
be a big night city merc...now here's the police database to execute anyone with a warrant for a bounty
finite imp
You are literally judge jury and executioner and everyone is like yes a reasonable person would do this type of work we should all look up to them
late hatch
finite imp
It's like everyone is just pretending to like you because they're terrified
Your street cred is more just intimidation factor
tiny summit
original loot system where you look like a hobo no matter what because of stats
finite imp
If you suddenly knew the person you were hanging out with has literally killed hundreds of people with his own hand
Idk that would fuck with me
Maybe even thousands
By end game
This one guy
Maybe even with a fucking sword
finite imp
I'd be like hey I gotta go ttyl
tiny summit
also it was very underwhelming of the big corpo relationships. Militech is mentioned how many times? Arasaka is just main campaign. They arent represented at all in the actual world and side missions
frank ether
most ppl play V like he/she's a sociopath and npcs are like ''oh V hiii''
finite imp
It's just so strange to me Vs aspirations are to become a legend of night city when the main reason anyone liked silver hand was because of his music but no this dude is like I NEED TO TERRORIZE THE CORPOS BRO and all of his friends are like no you fucking idiot be a rockstar
late hatch
but it did do futuristic city scape pretty damn well, and the game looks great and runs better than DT with higher settings
finite imp
So instead of V taking a lesson from Johnnies tragic downfall with obsession
He's like yeah no this is wicked cool I am going to disembowel this entire apartment block
Like ????
What the fuck does legend in night city mean HIGH KDR?
If that's the case the moment anyone is saying they wanna be a legend in night city they might as well tell me Patrick Bateman is their idol
THEN WHEN HE ISNT KILLING PEOPLE NON STOP
tiny summit
It's called being a good merc! By taking out the corpos- I mean everyone in Night City with a warrant out for them
tiny summit
It's just business
finite imp
V YOURE THE GUY FOR ME
finite imp
It's just business
Business he agreed to do
tiny summit
Yea man. I needed the street cred, exp and money
finite imp
Knife maxxing his way to the top
Inhaling shitloads of apazine and decapitating someone in slow motion
Just get a ripper doc to uninstall your PTSD
tiny summit
Like there is so little actual missions involving making big moves against the big corpos of the world.
finite imp
Heya doc my chest cavity is riddled with armor piercing express rounds does this subdermal armor have a manufacturer warranty
finite imp
Like there is so little actual missions involving making big moves against the b...
SOME OF THE MISSIONS JUST INVOLVE YOU HAVING TO SHOOT UP A CLUB
AMAZING
finite imp
Bro it's just business builds entire concentration camp and leads people of certain ethnicities to their deaths in battery workshopst they paid me to do this so it's cool
None of this is me does a backflip and eviscerates a father of 2
I just needed money sets fire to 10 ophsnages in under 12 minutes in a time trial whose 1st place reward is a can of soda
The legend of night city sounds like someone batman would beat the living shit out of
terse idol
The legend of night city sounds like someone batman would beat the living shit o...
Night city just builds people diiifferent
Corpo's and the ways folks make money have people actingkinda fucked uuup
frank basin
Is New-California
finite imp
Corpo's and the ways folks make money have people actingkinda fucked uuup
Perfect excuse
tiny summit
I just needed money *sets fire to 10 ophsnages in under 12 minutes in a time tri...
well maybe those orphans shouldnt piss off my client
wanton dawn
Cant have a distopia without shooting orphans for the evilulz
tiny summit
no. its not about if, it will always be about how many
wanton dawn
You cant shoot too many, otherwise you lose shock value
unreal bone
Can this be saved?
I would assume yes.
Just replaced unarmored and maybe replace Cava?
faint beacon
I'd say it wouldn't hurt to replace it with Flak instead of Unarmored and then Pinning Fire I think the blessing is called again? just cause you'll constantly be staggering with the Bolter
But yeah that's still a relatively good roll
frank ether
Can this be saved?
yea
you can either swap surgical to pinning and play unga bunga hipfire with exec, or you can swap cavalcade for pinning and play voc/deadshot kind of build
a lot of possibilities
tall torrent
48% collateral can’t open bulwarks in 1 hit I think?
tall torrent
U need at least 52% collateral
faint beacon
I could probably whip out my Bolter build real quick and test that to make sure, see if low collat helps or not
Oh, it appears my Bolter has 46% On it, I'll test it in the Meatgrinder real quick and see if a shot does stagger bulwarks or not
yeah, requires 2+ Hits, so if thats not a huge issue its good unless you really need that stagger on Bulwarks
tall torrent
It’s usually pretty important
unreal bone
Well my collat isn't perfect oh well
what do I do to make it useable
until I get a better one
what perks/blessings
faint beacon
I'd say seeing it requires 2+ hits to stagger Bulwarks probably take the Cav + Pinning route
seeing you'll dump more down range quicker
wanton dawn
Collateral is a dump stat
Here yah go
And bolter round have shit stagger below 5 meters.
unreal bone
So what do I want on my bolter.
Idk how I feel about Cav because the build I am using the bolter on
wanton dawn
Pinning fire, surgical.
Then idk for perk right now
Oh good cavalcade number are so bad
unreal bone
I would say unarmored would be an easy replacement..
But unarmored does actually affect annoying shitheads like Reapers
wanton dawn
It is all about bp.
wanton dawn
But unarmored does actually affect annoying shitheads like Reapers
Reaper are unyielding on head
Unarmored is for dreg elite shooter
frank basin
And groaners
wanton dawn
And groaners
You dont need unarmored for that. Besides the fact that bolter is not an anti trash gun
frank basin
frank basin
Once these pants come out.
Wait did they use temporary other pant?
unreal bone
Wait did they use temporary other pant?
Huh? Wym
terse idol
Once these pants come out.
I'm so sad they just didn't
Release this
With the previous set
What's the point
🥹
deft crystal
Anyway to avoid the gambling system of blessings
terse idol
they keep giving us the ugly uggs
deft crystal
or do i Just upgrade till I get it
terse idol
or do i Just upgrade till I get it
I would definetly wait
A good way to avoid the gambling system is just to check Melk
If you're desperate you can definetly upgrade up to blue
But that gets verry very expensive very fast
bitter wolf
I DONE IT
AFTER SO LONG
I MANAGED TO PULL OFF THE DAMN 90% ACCURACY PENANCE
YAAAAAAAS
AFTER SO MUCH PAIN
frank basin
Anyway to avoid the gambling system of blessings
Everything is gambling
Even emperor gift
faint beacon
The pain and suffering that is going through the 90% Accuracy penance, feels like a badge of honor once you obtain it
that and "On Overwatch"
vernal harbor
agile yew
It was fairly easy on assassination mission unloading bolter into the shield, but congrats! 🎉
bitter wolf
It was fairly easy on assassination mission unloading bolter into the shield, bu...
Yeah well jokes on you, gibberish man!
I never get that far with my ammo!
languid terrace
I just use lawbringer's alt fire. Completed it in 1 try.
frank basin
When veteran with survivalist join*
agile yew
Yeah i had survivalist on my team when i got it, once boss was down, they shot some specials and i kept getting more ammo
frank basin
Is annoying for doing that penance
agile yew
Its weird Veteran has no Custom Game penance like other classes
Just did my Ogryn one the other day, took 2 days to find team for Custom Game, then in intro of mission took me 1min to do it without seeing single enemy
frank basin
I think fs has no way to make custom game penance balance and easily obtain
They either believe play custom game penance for vet is hard
wanton dawn
Because REDACTED penance were a bandaid fix
grizzled pebble
How is this balanced? 
frank basin
Poked
torn needle
Bring it down moment
grizzled pebble
So based.
boreal goblet
please dear god give us a full auto laz, or make the infantry laz a 2 shot burst
frank basin
please dear god give us a full auto laz, or make the infantry laz a 2 shot burst
There’s mod make weapon go full auto
boreal goblet
thats full on cheati n rio
frank basin
thats full on cheati n rio
No is not
Is legal
Is like macro for mouse
Client side mod only are allow, and this is client side mod.
Is not affect weapon stats or function, it only let you toggle mouse auto repeatedly firing on single shot weapon.
So you don’t need click repeatedly; because is tiring to do so.
junior needle
thats full on cheati n rio
Considering that macros are explicitly allowed by fatshark, you’d be the only party that considers it cheating
runic hound
got my hands on a plasma rifle, now i finally enjoy veteran
its just a tad bit annoying how there isnt a really accurate aiming reticle for the gun
waxen sonnet
Yes there is. Its called "Are they in front of me"
runic hound
that works as long as the target is not at a distance
though its not like my braindead teammates mark further away specials anyways
god forbid i take them out before they can become a concern
bitter turtle
but plasma is the least fun vet gun
runic hound
but plasma is the least fun vet gun
that is blasphemy
bitter turtle
wdym
waxen sonnet
PHENOMENAL DAMAGING POWER!
holy shit I've burned myself
bitter turtle
u dont do health dmg to yourself anymore with plasma
and you have one gorillion ways to restore toughness
just left click spam lmoa
waxen sonnet
Bolter is just.. lazy mode
runic hound
just left click spam lmoa
charging makes your shots more accurate im pretty sure, so when a low HP target is at a distance, it still might be worth it to charge
bitter turtle
Bolter is just.. lazy mode
not sure what you mean by that, bolter literally needs anim cancel tech to compete
and no, charging does not make your shots more accurate
all charging does is lower your dps and ammo efficiency (and raise cleave)
if you uh
needed 300 cleave instead of 100 for some reason
runic hound
Bolter is just.. lazy mode
why would anyone subject themselves to using the bolter?
its so goddamned annoying and not even that effective
bitter turtle
like shooting through 7 or more crushers standing in a perfectly straight line
runic hound
all charging does is lower your dps and ammo efficiency (and raise cleave)
it tightens the reticle
bitter turtle
then in that situation you should charge 
the thing is
the plasma projectile is so fat it doesnt really have any effect
idk if you noticed too
waxen sonnet
I use the Kantrael XII because I'm a proper guardsman.
bitter turtle
the reticle tightens slightly before you shoot even on a left click
because left click is still technically charging slightly
runic hound
hmmm, i see
junior needle
Imagine not replacing the reticle
bitter turtle
its why charge speed used to affect left click damage too
junior needle
This comment was made by mod gang
waxen sonnet
Go to bed.
frank basin
Kk
forest scaffold
all charging does is lower your dps and ammo efficiency (and raise cleave)
kinda
nice to guarantee the kills on a train of ragers though
not many situations exist that call for charging the plasma gun to 100%, but they are out there.
bitter turtle
yeah
that's why i pointed out the cleave mostly
its the only time you might do it
deft crystal
Are veterans capable of melting bosses quickly?
bitter turtle
yes
forest scaffold
uh. also a kinda thing
vets anti boss is more "stick everything in your build to that idea"
otherwise just use rashad combat axe
bitter turtle
i thought charged shots had better wall penetration but i heard that was not actually true
forest scaffold
and bop em in the face a bunch
deft crystal
yeah
bitter turtle
if you really hate bosses
you can always run kraks and stun it for like 10 seconds
also deals about 40% of its hp
with almost no effort
though the downside is you lose shredder nades lol
deft crystal
vet's infinite nade talents need to go
You stfu
forest scaffold
getting one back every 60 seconds is blatantly overpowered
bitter turtle
well, at the very least, they should move the talent somewhere else
torn needle
Overkill damage 
bitter turtle
part of voc supremacy is having teh best standalone talent in the tree right above it lol
woven tide
Just give them ogryn sized grenades
bitter turtle
really unfair to the other two skills in pathing
forest scaffold
eh
I always grab ammo crate/med crate too
While me having infinite nades is good
everyone having infinite grenades is amazing
bitter turtle
i think its hard to call 1 refill infinite tbh
not saying field is bad
but i'd say its at least comparable to grenadier
deft crystal
I feel like all my vet builds lack versatility when i build them
deft crystal
I just want one that can do everything
bitter turtle
grenadier +1 nade is actually really impactful with shredder nade since you throw them in pairs
forest scaffold
mostly I run crate for @viral wraith though when he's on Ogryn
giving him nukes is 
dire olive
I just want one that can do everything
The key to this is ignoring the keystones completely
deft crystal
Did they get rid of the penance where you couldnt miss a shot and not have any ammo remaining?
forest scaffold
I just want one that can do everything
Swap Swap keystone
bitter turtle
Did they get rid of the penance where you couldnt miss a shot and not have any a...
they nerfed it slightly
deft crystal
OH WTF
woven tide
The current meta picks for vet can pretty much deal with all content in the game in general tbh
forest scaffold
but the same requirements otherwise
deft crystal
The current meta picks for vet can pretty much deal with all content in the game...
what is meta
grizzled pebble
Bolter is just.. lazy mode
What's good for bolter now? Surgical pinning fire?
deft crystal
no no i know tat
forest scaffold
Oh
dire olive
what is meta
Knife + recon lasgun
bitter turtle
yeah its a backronym
deft crystal
Really not the columnus?
forest scaffold
Voice of Command, Plasma Gun, Mk6 Power Sword or Rashad Combat Axe
bitter turtle
pretty much
forest scaffold
With the Rashad CA being marginally better than Mk6 power sword
bitter turtle
revolver is 2nd after that
dire olive
Really not the columnus?
Yeah I'm taking the piss
forest scaffold
due to overall mobility
bitter turtle
eh, i'd say if you do weapon swap keystone i'd put psword above
woven tide
Voice of Command, Plasma Gun, Mk6 Power Sword or Rashad Combat Axe
Pretty much this along with Columnus
bitter turtle
idk why i said columnus prob cause i was reading lol
but the weapon swap keystone really fixes any mobility deficiency on psword
idk they're both op anyway
forest scaffold
Yeah, talking Psword v Rashad is basically:
"True solo or group play"
true solo = rashad
group = ps6
And group is also = rashad and ps6, just depends on your personal tastes
deft crystal
Never used plasma gun
forest scaffold
its uh
deft crystal
is it really above autoguns?
forest scaffold
really boring to roll on
because there's one acceptable blessing combination
and everything else bricks it
grizzled pebble
It's like revolver on crack. Xd
torn needle
It's probablyy better than autoguns but columnus is prettyy close
woven tide
It's about the same tier as Columnus
forest scaffold
Though, I consider it to have two acceptable blessing combos
torn needle
because there's one acceptable blessing combination
Gets hot and shattering?
deft crystal
So revolver, or plasma for maelstrom?
dire olive
and everything else bricks it
Eh, it's busted enough you can live without it being perfect
grizzled pebble
My most comfy vet build is standard issue shovel and plasma.
woven tide
Plasma
bitter turtle
shattering is useless
forest scaffold
Gets hot and shattering?
Volatile+Blaze Away
Gets Hot+Blaze Away
dire olive
shattering is useless
Only helps teammates*
forest scaffold
I like volatile more than gets hot
cause gets hot is kinda just throwing dice and hoping you come up yahtzee
even with the. . . 20%? base crit chance on plasma
bitter turtle
Only helps teammates*
you are shooting a plasma
forest scaffold
Its good, cause lol finesse modifiers
bitter turtle
how is the thing you're shooting still alive
rotund heart
Gets hot is useless when the right Keystone can allow you to store up a guaranteed crit.
forest scaffold
oneshot literally everything in the game but bosses
bitter turtle
for teammates to be "helping" on
dire olive
how is the thing you're shooting still alive
Eh, monsters
forest scaffold
Gets hot is useless when the right Keystone can allow you to store up a guarante...
thats ONE crit
ONE
dire olive
I didn't say it was good
bitter turtle
shooting mosntro with plasma is a waste of ammo
forest scaffold
gets hot lets you roll crits infinitely basically
deft crystal
With the plasma how is ammo managment?
forest scaffold
without needing to kill something
forest scaffold
With the plasma how is ammo managment?
dogshit
so don't shoot adds
and you're fine
bitter turtle
With the plasma how is ammo managment?
the clip itself is massive, but^
forest scaffold
elites, specials - stick to those and your ammo is fine
torn needle
As long as you don't camp it and shoot trash with it yyou'll be fine with regen aura
bitter turtle
you shoot specials and reload afte rthe encounter
is already over
since the reload is the one thing that takes 10 years on it
the clip itself is massive enough toprobably sustain you through most encounters if you stick to specials
forest scaffold
with swap swap keystone you outright don't have to reload
which is a problem
but uh
secret sauce razzle dazzle or whatever
deft crystal
So instead of VOC should I run ES?
forest scaffold
No, run VoC
torn needle
Run whatever is more fun they are both good
forest scaffold
that's basically just the answer to every problem right now as vet
Voice of Command is just. . . better
torn needle
VoC is better
forest scaffold
we cri
deft crystal
It really is lmao
torn needle
But who cares
deft crystal
Kraks or shredder?
torn needle
Shredders better but kraks are fine too
dire olive
If it's with plasma then definitely shredder
forest scaffold
I don't wanna waste ammo or time on bulwarks/crushers
forest scaffold
that's basically veteran in a nutshell
bitter turtle
stealth suffers for smoke nade and survivalist's crimes lol
forest scaffold
He has like
4 distinct builds
and no real good way to flex out of that
without abandoning keystones
woven tide
Shredder for most cases, but running kraks is fine.
Shredders just have great all round utility that helps you in Auric maelstrom.
forest scaffold
But uh
I'll let fatshark figure that one out
they seem to want this kind of design philosophy for veterino
torn needle
How many overheads to kill a crusher with a rashad? Bm and carapce
deft crystal
Chainsword viable?
bitter turtle
every melee is viable
bitter turtle
i think taxe is the lcosest one to being trash
forest scaffold
bitter turtle
but i was doing taxe4 only runs the other day and honestly it was
torn needle
What second blessing do you run on rashad?
forest scaffold
I'll call this clip a shout for both voice of command and new chainsword
bitter turtle
What second blessing do you run on rashad?
BM + headtaker
forest scaffold
I really like the new chainsword
forest scaffold
its not blatantly busted like rashad/psword
dire olive
Tax is kinda ok on melee vet with the finesse boost
forest scaffold
its just. . . good
woven tide
Mk 4 has a better horde clear combo than the 13 (though it is more complicated than just spamming the key)
13 is still solid though
bitter turtle
Tax is kinda ok on melee vet with the finesse boost
i tried it on vet and zealot
doing a run where i only used the taxe, no shooting
like
torn needle
these are all mandatory
Unarmored for horde clear?
bitter turtle
it felt bad on crushers
deft crystal
Can I have someone look at my build in dms. I could use some feedback
forest scaffold
tactical axe is better than combat knife
bitter turtle
but it didnt feel bad for everything else lol
forest scaffold
so its got that going for it
bitter turtle
Unarmored for horde clear?
you need to hit a oneshot breakpoint on flak and dreg brsuiers
they have flak and unarmored heads
you need to be able to kill them in 1 light swing so you can abuse brutal momentum
forest scaffold
rashad is:
Headtaker, Brutal Momentum, Flak, Unarmored
to hit all of the important osbps
torn needle
you need to be able to kill them in 1 light swing so you can abuse brutal moment...
Gotcha
woven tide
I'm combat knife gaming over here tbh. Have it on my Gun psyker too whenever I get bored of the dueling sword
bitter turtle
but ideally you want to rely on it only for 1 stack at most
deft crystal
Alr what about twins hardmode?
bitter turtle
plasma is even more dumb on twins so
forest scaffold
fuck doing that on anyone else
bitter turtle
since the packs of ragers/crushers are the main problem
forest scaffold
Ogryn gaming or bust
bitter turtle
so just run plasma meme
dire olive
Or revolver
forest scaffold
I used thunderous+skullcrusher+nuke on bullgryn
bitter turtle
id do swap keystone plasma sword if you're tryharding on it
forest scaffold
mash mouse 1, win
bitter turtle
lets you stay mobile and clear through nearly everything with ease
forest scaffold
I used thunderous+skullcrusher+nuke on bullgryn
IE: I have no fucking clue what the other three classes want for twins
deft crystal
fuck doing that on anyone else
I want to do it w a organized team. Where vet is just the specialist killer. gunner ogryn for shield breaking. Shield ogryn for taunting. Zealot for big boy dmg when shields are down.
bitter turtle
the other vet was dying a lot so i just let him pick the weapon he preferred to bring
dire olive
I played revolver vet and just picked off elites
forest scaffold
plasma is just. . . boring
torn needle
Shatter to blaze away?
forest scaffold
shoot three times, vent, shoot three times, vent
shoot three times, vent, shoot three times, vent
woven tide
Plasma is indeed very boring, but damn is it effective
forest scaffold
shoot three times, vent, shoot three times, vent
forest scaffold
Not exactly a brain engaging gameplay loop
forest scaffold
Shatter to blaze away?
and unyielding to maniac
deft crystal
What discord role to be able to post pictures?
next furnace
shoot three times, vent, shoot three times, vent
one shoting crushers boring? infinite cleave thru hordes boring? i dont think so
torn needle
and unyielding to maniac
I can't reach oshs bp for dreg gunner without longshot 
dire olive
Another twins tip is definitely bring field improv
bitter turtle
dreg gunner is the tricky one to reach
forest scaffold
one shoting crushers boring? infinite cleave thru hordes boring? i dont think so
I don't really care about the effect on target
torn needle
If I take longshot though I oshs all ranged elites and specials without maniac
forest scaffold
I want my gun to FEEL GOOD while shooting it
bitter turtle
one shoting crushers boring? infinite cleave thru hordes boring? i dont think so
actually
yes
i like weapons to have tradeoffs and weaknesses
forest scaffold
which is why I'm an ogryn main
bitter turtle
not
deft crystal
Could bolt gun act as a psuedo Plasma?
next furnace
who dosnt like shooting a mini sun at heretics
bitter turtle
i left click at things 10000x
bitter turtle
Could bolt gun act as a psuedo Plasma?
kind of?
next furnace
forest scaffold
the 150 round magazine on an achlys stubber
bitter turtle
what do you mean pseudo plasma
bolter is played more like a sniepr rifle right now tbh
next furnace
i have 1,5k hours as vet, plasma is fun
bitter turtle
you dont hipfire auto it
woven tide
Could bolt gun act as a psuedo Plasma?
Bolt gun is pretty inferior to the plasma gun.
These days anyways
dire olive
Do I need to fish out my clip of emptying like 400 stubber rounds without reloading
next furnace
dont always use it but it is fun
forest scaffold
bolt gun is unapologetically bad these days
next furnace
bolt gun is unapologetically bad these days
i beg to differ
forest scaffold
the pinning fire nerf really bastardized that weapon
next furnace
i still get top leader board with it
forest scaffold
i beg to differ
Literally everything else does its job better
bitter turtle
but it does feel like bad revolver though yeah
forest scaffold
from a revolver and plasma gun to a graia brauto
woven tide
Do you use executioners stance with it?
dire olive
i still get top leader board with it
You can do this with anything
forest scaffold
^
I can faceroll my keyboard and get top score
that's not exactly a meaningful metric
dire olive
Green circles mean nothing
dire olive
Average player isn't a no life nerd like us
forest scaffold
and also a bunch of other information
next furnace
I can faceroll my keyboard and get top score
when playing with other gamers lvl 700+ 1.3K hours+?
next furnace
all with god roles
bitter turtle
i still get top leader board with it
if top leaderboard is all that matters
then ig taxe IV is op
dont even need gun!11
next furnace
if top leaderboard is all that matters
it dosnt
forest scaffold
me using bb mk3 and ripper 5 earlier
next furnace
just saying bolter isnt bad
forest scaffold
rippers are also unapologetically bad these days
next furnace
if u say its bad then skill issue
forest scaffold
but I can still faceroll keyboard and top damage with them
deft crystal
LETS GO REJECTS!!!
forest scaffold
and was still able to do this earlier today
with the "worst" ogryn gun
(I'm try again bragg)
woven tide
I can definitely see Boltor being alright for twins if you just want to slam some burst DPS down
Nothing much else
bitter turtle
twins is the place i probably would NOT use bolter
bolter is very much a DMR kind of weapon rn
woven tide
Because of the adds?
next furnace
its good for twins but the ammo count says otherwise
forest scaffold
yeah, bolter is an mg12
bitter turtle
is not very good in twins
bitter turtle
cause of the shape of the room and nature of the encounter
woven tide
That's fair
bitter turtle
yeah you're constnatly trying to make space in twins, and a weapon that takes 10 years to swap out and reload unless you perform animation cancels is not the ideal here