i'm guessing most players try to stay at higher heat lvl
#veteran-class
sonic marlin
soft blade
usually yeah
since high heat has essentially zero risk
not much reason to vent constantly
sonic marlin
can't shoot forever, what do you do if ur fighting a boss and its coming for you
soft blade
you pull out your melee and stall until you get breathing room
sonic marlin
soft blade
if a boss is on your ass you’re not gonna shoot it anyways
sonic marlin
so using gloryhunter and blaze away is a bad idea?
south garnet
Your mother
soft blade
i mean not really
sonic marlin
Your mother
soft blade
blessings on plasma barely matter
sonic marlin
wjat
soft blade
glory hunter is the only one i’d say is genuinely impactful
umbral scaffold
Blaze away and gets hot
civic knot
Does shredder pistol have bad finesse value?
soft blade
gets hot just coincides with the most common style of play
umbral scaffold
Stagger and damage modifier
umbral scaffold
gets hot just coincides with the most common style of play
Yes?
sonic marlin
eh ill upgrade it and hope i roll blaze away maxed
umbral scaffold
Crit chance and power is much better than toughness regen as a blessing. If you’re already running ET and the elite toughness talent it’s a little redundant
sonic marlin
umbral scaffold
Gimps your offensive power for defensibility
soft blade
blaze away isn’t gonna actually help you reach bps
it’s better for bosses ig but it’s not like plasma is lacking in damage
gets hot is nice because it’s basically just perma crit chance
acoustic sapphire
Why do I have to pay real money to get fake money to pay for cool weapon skins? Why don't weapons have unlockable skins?
soft blade
not to say blaze away is bad but tbh i prefer glory hunter
acoustic sapphire
I want my plasma gun to have a buttstock so I have three points of contact like you're supposed to.
gaunt hinge
Why do I have to pay real money to get fake money to pay for cool weapon skins? ...
they do have unlockable skins, they come in two crazy colors 
acoustic sapphire
Yeah. Red and Blue.
How invigorating.
The drip is weak in this game.
Fat Shark doesn't even make all skins available. I would've spent my real money on fake money to buy tank armor for my Ogryn if it were simply available.
soft blade
weapon skins in this game suck
honestly most of the cosmetics do
but weapons skins it’s low quantity and pretty shit quality as well
acoustic sapphire
It might be rude to compare Darktide to Vermintide, but Vermintide 2 had great skins available to unlock in game.
And their DLC skins could be bought directly through steam at all times.
Darktide needs to adopt that. As well as solo games. Sometimes I just want to creep through a mission.
soft blade
the weapon customization mod comes in so clutch for making cool looking weapons
late hatch
Fat Shark doesn't even make all skins available. I would've spent my real money ...
but but but the potential profits later when we slowly release more skins after half the people have already quit the game /j
acoustic sapphire
but but but the potential profits later when we slowly release more skins after ...
You're right. As long as we keep our fan base angry, they'll continue complaining.
That will bring in more players, and therefore more profits.
Just like Team Fortress 2.
late hatch
cant be a dead game if players are still talking about it
acoustic sapphire
Actually, I'm imagining community content for Darktide. Imagine if Darktide's endgame was to collect hats.
Vox Modulators sell for 500 keys.
short vapor
gets hot is nice because it’s basically just perma crit chance
It's also +crit damage.
soft blade
even better
acoustic sapphire
Just over charge every shot.
umbral scaffold
guess blaze away isnt that good guys
umbral scaffold
terse idol
shares second place behind gets hot with glory hunter
Second place?
Its...
Its on par with gets hot
soft blade
it’s not that good tbh
umbral scaffold
definite trollin, just ignore
soft blade
okay man
i literally just said glory hunter is equal to it and you can’t find a rebuttal
beyond a single scoreboard
umbral scaffold
i have
no i explained survivability is something u take talents for not waste a blessing on
south garnet
blaze away more like gaze at hay cause that's all you'll have to do after all the people you chew up using it!
LMAO!
soft blade
i guess not
serene sage
vet chat will move on to nuclear fission if we keep splitting hair like this
soft blade
true
light ore
So how about those knife blessings
soft blade
not really worth arguing about blessings on plasma tbh
south garnet
I'm hairless 4'2 and 600 lbs. a perfect orb
soft blade
at the end of the day it’s still plasma lmfao
south garnet
can't split any of my hairs
umbral scaffold
bein a little toxic is perfect for getting better. steel sharpens steel and the strongest steel is forged in the hottest flames (my excuse 4 being a little mean)
terse idol
Its been talked to death
Pgun is like eh, I think it's so basic
We've figured out most of it
terse idol
bein a little toxic is perfect for getting better. steel sharpens steel and the ...
My honest reaction
umbral scaffold
plasgun blessing idea: make a blessing that makes the blast radius the size of an ogryn nuke, new meta is vet players running max wounds and suicide bombing themselves
soft blade
So how about those knife blessings
summon the bleed knife guy again so we can see some real trolling
light ore
soft blade
knife vet and its consequences
hard briar
plasgun blessing idea: make a blessing that makes the blast radius the size of a...
make a Blessing that vents the gun for a small amount on Elite Kill
soft blade
make it so the gun can just explode randomly on any heat level
and take your team with you
hearty panther
honestly i think they should make the plasma gun hurt you again
bring that back
and buff the charge shot into something hilarious
terse idol
It should melt your face
hearty panther
like actual carapace cleave perhaps
umbral scaffold
suicide bomb plasma gun meta
short vapor
make a Blessing that vents the gun for a small amount on Elite Kill
There are actually 2 scrapped blessings that do that.
hard briar
honestly i think they should make the plasma gun hurt you again
I wouldnt be against this, but in turn. remove alt fire. Make primary fire the charged shot, and give us a canted offsight ads since theres customization that does this anyway
tiny summit
honestly i think they should make the plasma gun hurt you again
It's so funny now. Your dude is going "ah. Ooooh. It's hot" and it tickles your toughness
Why the fuck do you need to ads the plasma besides wanting deadshot
hard briar
It's so funny now. Your dude is going "ah. Ooooh. It's hot" and it tickles your ...
we used to negate the hp damage entirely. frankly i used to run camo expert and at arms length to regen toughness during vent
hard briar
Why the fuck do you need to ads the plasma besides wanting deadshot
because. I want deadshot
soft blade
crank the damage to the fucking moon and just have the mf scream every time he vents even if the heat is low
tiny summit
tiny summit
Should just blow you up for wanting that
tiny summit
I run MF helbore. Guess I can't really talk
hard briar
tho i think my suggestions would make Plasma a right side talent tree weapon and ranged weapon for melee vets
which isnt so bad
not that it cant do that now
sonic marlin
god i hate auspex games
was just doing one and we just kept getting overrun and couldn't even scan lol
tiny summit
Isn't it lovely when the hab dreyko finale is at 150% the entire time?
soft blade
tiny summit
Sometimes hab dreyko finale is unrelenting. Sometimes the director is asleep
soft blade
simply hold the auspex in your teeth so you can shooting
sonic marlin
Does anyone use the boltor?
hard briar
dude finding the auspex shit isnt a bad mini game but i just hate the team will get so caught up fighting stuff they dont do the obj so ur chipped down
hearty panther
i use bolber
sonic marlin
same thing happened lol we just kept dying and reviving ourselves
soft blade
i lobe the boulder
gaunt hinge
bolter white
tiny summit
Love bolts
soft blade
boltah
sonic marlin
the plasma just feels so slow
whats the second option when it comes to like a boomstick
gaunt hinge
sonic marlin
revoler, shotgun or boltor
tiny summit
If you think plasma is slow. Bolter is even slower.
soft blade
shotgun i have zero clue
sonic marlin
ill try it out and see what i like
gaunt hinge
slug shotty is pretty slow
soft blade
if you want a pocket hand cannon revolver is prolly what you want
terse idol
Revolver is on par with plasma
sonic marlin
whats boltor godroll
terse idol
Play revolver weapon spec and badaboom
soft blade
^
sonic marlin
if you want a pocket hand cannon revolver is prolly what you want
that reload is pretty yucky, doesn't a different class have a revolver that reloads all rounds at once? Veteran puts them in one by one
sonic marlin
Play revolver weapon spec and badaboom
what does that mean
soft blade
that’s the agri revolver
white minnow
we have them both
terse idol
It's good
soft blade
unfortunately that’s the less good one
white minnow
weapon spec has an upgrade node that reloads bullets based on melee kills
soft blade
it’s not as bad as people say but i don’t really like agri rev
terse idol
It also guarantees a crit on next shot after swap
hearty panther
or shattering pinning
pretty much your choices
i do unyielding + elite after that
i would maybe do carapace instead of elite but im still not entirely sure if i would
sonic marlin
yeah shattering impact and pinning fire seems to be the most common i see on gameslantern builds
but the perks vary alot
tiny summit
Think of the bolter in only 2 modes. Primary - basically a big fuckoff DMR
Secondary - mag dump for an endorphin hit and then post clarity
hearty panther
if youre bringing it to be precise i personally think youre already making a mistake
so many other weapons do precision better
frank basin
Primary mag dump
Secondary fuck off DMr
hearty panther
but yes ^
sonic marlin
does it have a dumpstat?
hearty panther
collateral
sonic marlin
and stability right
hearty panther
stability you do want
frank basin
Stagger on boltgun not needed?
hearty panther
cause it is reaaaal bad
well you only need a pretty low collateral % to pop open a bulwark with a single shot
you dont want it to be literally 0%
but it's something like 30-40%
if youre using ex stance with it then it doesnt even matter
cause ex stance buffs your ranged impact by 100%
tiny summit
so many other weapons do precision better
Counter point. The thoomp is more satisfying than any of the other guns to land
sonic marlin
idk if i should sell it for money or extract blessing lol, is there any reason to collect low tier blessings?
i upgraded it when i knew jack shit
hearty panther
to do it
terse idol
I mean you can
frank basin
idk if i should sell it for money or extract blessing lol, is there any reason t...
240 is level 12
sonic marlin
i need money more
sonic marlin
240 is level 12
so
tiny summit
idk if i should sell it for money or extract blessing lol, is there any reason t...
Damn those poxwalkers are gonna feel that dmg bonus
sonic marlin
would be nice to have it in the collection but in the end it doesn't really matter
is there a penance for that or no
frank basin
Nope
sonic marlin
probably should wait to get a better one until investing huh
tiny summit
Yea
hearty panther
easily worth purping
frank basin
Stability is meh for it
hearty panther
it actually has real noticable impact
and any time you try to ADS without Ex Stance it's just oh my GOD STAY FUCKING STIIILL
tiny summit
Unless of course you want to fish for godrolls. But otherwise perfectly fine as one to see if you like it
sonic marlin
eh?
hearty panther
nice
frank basin
Yes
hearty panther
upgrade it after your next mission
tiny summit
and any time you try to ADS without Ex Stance it's just oh my GOD STAY FUCKING S...
Besides brautos. It really does feel like the 1 ironsight I can describe as "the gun is drunk"
hearty panther
its gonna depend
on a shitload of nodes
and whether you are or are not using them
it's why i just threw +elites on mine
its basically everything
sonic marlin
huh
hearty panther
and a bunch of breakpoints are really reached with pinning fire
frank basin
Extra 10% combine superior complex and you have total 25%
Therefore your weapon deal universal elite enemies
fleet thicket
@sharp ember hey btw I was doing some testing for mgiv kantrael
hearty panther
its true also that +Carapace is 'good'
like it will totally breakpoint Crushers for you
but even on aurics like ... there's not that many crushers
fleet thicket
I think headhunter infernus is a legit build on that gun
sonic marlin
so elites?
frank basin
Yeah
hearty panther
it's safe yeah
maniac is also good tbf
but that's a surprisingly small list of enemies
sonic marlin
not sure if i should make changes to my talents for boltor
its for close range right
mid maybe
?
trim steppe
🤔
tiny summit
🤔
Not 80% dmg. Sorry trash. Can't even 1 tap a dreg gunner w/o MF or Longshot kicking in
trim steppe
sad trombone noises
tall torrent
Not 80% dmg. Sorry trash. Can't even 1 tap a dreg gunner w/o MF or Longshot kick...
Doesn’t he just need +elite
tiny summit
Probably. I usually don't run elite
Pretty much unarmored perk, elite dmg talent, Longshot is needed for a helbore built on the left side down with precision strikes needs 80dmg to 1 tap a dreg gunner. 79dmg will say it does 1400 and the dreg gunner is alive with 1 or below 1, because I don't fucking know, hp
trim steppe
That's quite the list of requirements
W/e I don't even like this effing gun I was just looking for blessings
tiny summit
Really isn't. You just need 1 of them with a below 80dmg hb1
sonic marlin
@tall torrent you got any recommendation for Boltgun? Talents mostly, i think for perks unyielding and elite, blessings shattering impact and pinning fire
hearty panther
ill show u mine
but its ultra generic tbh
vet is just dummy strong
i do run with a knife so that'll inform some of the choices
hearty panther
god vet is so dumb
sonic marlin
thinking about it I could've gotten rid of the keystone in my plasma build too since i barely ever pinged enemies
maybe bosses
hearty panther
i have many vet tree opinions
fleet thicket
I mean
Vet worse thing
Is getting items for it
Soo many useless blessings
Psyker and ogryn have such small number of blessings getting brick items is actually less likely
I hate crafting for vet
white minnow
force sword and thunder hammer L
fleet thicket
Why does infantry lasgun got begilion blessings man
fleet thicket
force sword and thunder hammer L
Beside those
sonic marlin
wait why you got exec stance
tiny summit
Exe + Bolter fun
tiny summit
Plus ogryn is still brain dead easy to craft for
Me with my ogryn and barely crafting anything because the game just gave him good reward shit. Like my ogryn is my money maker when I play him for weeklies because he doesn't need anything
hearty panther
ex stance makes ADS usable and is a big damage boost, also equips it instantly
sonic marlin
Exe + Bolter fun
how\
dire lagoon
Anyone know the best way to far ordos? Brunt's white weapon gamble is fuckibg me hard. Is damnation the best or?
sonic marlin
ex stance makes ADS usable and is a big damage boost, also equips it instantly
yeah but i can't recall how many times i finished a mission only cuz of VOC
hearty panther
gotta drop the crutch and go ham
sonic marlin
Anyone know the best way to far ordos? Brunt's white weapon gamble is fuckibg me...
don't forget +money curios
tiny summit
yeah but i can't recall how many times i finished a mission only cuz of VOC
Break your chains of VoC
VoC was a disaster for this class
late moon
best hellbore laz gun?
soft blade
mk1/2
stoic mantle
worth picking up?
frank basin
me getting through damnation
narrow bough
best hellbore laz gun?
wasnt expecting to see you here
hollow ibex
worth picking up?
take it and yoink the blessing
stoic mantle
take it and yoink the blessing
I already ahve flechette 2
hollow ibex
I already ahve flechette 2
if its for dockets, buy anyway
if it's for milk, depends on how much milk you have ig
hollow ibex
I already ahve flechette 2
yeah though stability will be annoying
vagrant hornet
whats the best full auto balastic bullets rifle?
wise fossil
Columnus IAG
tall torrent
<@366562874039992331> you got any recommendation for Boltgun? Talents mostly, i ...
Play middle & left tree, bring a melee that doesn’t need right tree to function and handles hordes well
vagrant hornet
Columnus IAG
alright thanks, i'll look for one. Any stats or traits i should look for?
hollow ibex
alright thanks, i'll look for one. Any stats or traits i should look for?
everything except mobility
wise fossil
alright thanks, i'll look for one. Any stats or traits i should look for?
Stability is important because that one kicks like a mule. Stopping power is probably most important
vagrant hornet
any1 got a picture of a good one i can save and use for reference?
hollow ibex
https://i.imgur.com/84OzTfy.png
something like this actually lol
wise fossil
Traits you want flak damage & blessings you gotta have dumdum
hollow ibex
just preferably with 60 mobility instead of stability
tiny summit
best hellbore laz gun?
Personal taste. Mk1/2 have good bayonets. Mk3 is cool I guess if you like killing crushers
vagrant hornet
ok thanks for all the help!
broken shore
what're good perks and blessings for the catachans?
stoic mantle
Mk3 is fun for annihilating things
broken shore
mine has haymaker which I don't think is super useful?
stoic mantle
But its slow
narrow bough
something like this actually lol
i really wasnt trolling, it was literally my first roll at lvl 30 and i had no idea
atomic zephyr
me watching my squad of shout vets fold instantly upon the first horde in enclavum baross
wise fossil
what're good perks and blessings for the catachans?
The knives?
sonic marlin
now this is a boltor
broken shore
The knives?
aye
wise fossil
Everyone disagrees lol
broken shore
well shit lol
soft blade
wise fossil
100% do not use lacerate
hollow ibex
i really wasnt trolling, it was literally my first roll at lvl 30 and i had no i...
Grats. I'd test it out to make sure you can handle the recoil
broken shore
I'm using it in conjunction with a fanning revolver or a headhunter autogun if that helps
soft blade
precog/uncanny is good for general use uncanny/mercy killer if you have the node that procs bleed every hit
uncanny/riposte is also good
soft blade
i mean the talent node not the blessing
broken shore
Ye
my revolver build has that node, my autogun build does not
sorry I didn't speak clearly lol
soft blade
if you’ve got the node run uncanny and mercy killer
wise fossil
Everything that's not smackdown, lacerate, or Haymaker can work in some build or another
soft blade
you’ll prolly just need 2 knives
knife is a pretty picky weapon
general rule of thumb is uncanny is mandatory tho
wise fossil
Uncanny, precog, and riposte are all very good
soft blade
mk3 better for elites mk6 is “better” for hordes
i’d mostly recommend mk3 but the mk6 isn’t bad
hollow ibex
It's pretty much personal preference
Both very good
I use vi because I don't want to break my fingers
soft blade
mk6 is probably better for bleed node since the heavies allow for better horde clear
broken shore
it's my horde weapon p much by default
one ranged is low capacity
one ranged is a long range semi-auto
and it's served me all right in that capacity
staggers the shit out of people for some reason
soft blade
yeah the knife is good at stalling because le high attack speed
frank basin
Which knife is?
soft blade
I think just 'the knife' as in both of them
either
you just mash m1 and dodge and the stuff in front of you is just kinda helpless
also wrong reply moment
broken shore
lol
also I've decided my character has two personalities; the calm, collected sharpshooter
frank ether
do you want to light attack or heavy attack
broken shore
or Jacket from Hotline Miami in 40k
What's the best infantry las for longer range shooting?
tiny summit
Ia
sonic marlin
lasguns? yikes
tiny summit
XII is still as powerful as it used to be but Ia and MG4 got buffed. So XII fire rate is ass compared to Ia
Lasguns good
Except recon
sonic marlin
embrace columnus
tiny summit
I like doming enemies with a single shot
broken shore
Isn’t that one automatic and kick like a mule?
atomic zephyr
upgraded this from brunt is this salvageable?
sonic marlin
yes its automatic, recoil is fine
sonic marlin
upgraded this from brunt is this salvageable?
hell yeah
sonic marlin
upgraded this from brunt is this salvageable?
carapace instead of reload speed
either gloryhunter or blaze away instead of volatile
atomic zephyr
its beautiful.
atomic zephyr
fuck now i dont even have an excuse to not use a plasma gun
hard briar
dude i wish curios werent so obnoxious to farm
sonic marlin
fuck now i dont even have an excuse to not use a plasma gun
i got mine like yesterday and already got tired of it
gonna try different stuff now
boltgun first
sonic marlin
i kinda like having a little handcanon when elites come
frank ether
boltgun is cool on veteran
atomic zephyr
im trying to figure out a decent build for it
wanna do something with exe stance
cause im bored of shout
but i dont wanna replace any of my builds..
tall torrent
upgraded this from brunt is this salvageable?
godroll
reload speed => carapace
volatile => Gloryhunter or Blaze Away
tall torrent
gloryhunter plasma makes born leader not shit
frank ether
I accidentally recorded darktide for 10 hours and now my ssd is screaming at me
serene sage
tough tiger
beat your ssd until it shuts up
tiny summit
serene sage
that's a little bad, how big was the file?
frank ether
beat your ssd until it shuts up
sure brb
hollow ibex
thick wolf
repost again but man, Brunt really screwed up on the stability modifier
serene bough
stability is a dump stat anyways
tall torrent
is it just me or DT's mini launcher changed
serene bough
it is changed
tiny summit
yea
frank ether
repost again but man, Brunt really screwed up on the stability modifier
I'd still upgraded that
frank ether
is it just me or DT's mini launcher changed
It diid
thick wolf
I'd still upgraded that
gotta fucking pray Hadron doesn't brick this uggghh
I'll goddamn build an Omnissiah shrine just to not brick
tall torrent
repost again but man, Brunt really screwed up on the stability modifier
This is good, might have some bad visual kick but still good
serene bough
in b4 efficiency blessing
frank ether
if it does its iLas anyway
tall torrent
hadron cooked
thick wolf
I'm scared, I have other low rated ilasguns I'll probably farm some blessings for those
frank ether
nice
thick wolf
assuming that Hadron wouldn't give me totally awful perks later on
tall torrent
guy is lvl 539
Building 1 wound is acceptable actually
serene sage
Deja Vu I've just been on this street before
thick wolf
guy is lvl 539
gotta have that sniper resist just in case
thick wolf
Deja Vu I've just been on this street before
the heretics have watched Initial D, sir!
sonic marlin
gotta have that sniper resist just in case
his second curio had tox flamers resist
eh not the blessing i wanted for my last one
sonic marlin
what in the throne did you just do to that poor bolter
looks cool right
terse idol
serene sage
looks cool right
big gun, can't one shot dogs
thick wolf
true pain
tall torrent
is this ever good?
This is okay
It’s not great but it’s ok
It’s best on Ogryn stubbers
sonic marlin
ill still go for pinning
atomic zephyr
man, i mustve used all my good luck on that plasma cause i just lost forge manufactorum on the last part 😔
crude fiber
can 1 shot everything besides bosses
sonic marlin
couldn't tell by ur server name lmao
tough tiger
Yes way i play blacktide
sonic marlin
can 1 shot everything besides bosses <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
show the shotty
sonic marlin
Yes way i play blacktide
for how long
tough tiger
Been playing for a month
sonic marlin
same kinda
crude fiber
can 1 shot everything besides bosses <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
not reapers or bulwarks*
polar kayak
do you guys like skirmisher perk for those with sprint builds?
crude fiber
sonic marlin
how many days does it take you to reload it
viral raptor
crude fiber
how many days does it take you to reload it
1 whole day
almost as long as a plasma reload
crude fiber
but u are able to shoot before loading all 13 right
can shoot at any point during reload
tall torrent
do you guys like skirmisher perk for those with sprint builds?
Skirmisher is not good because it takes a very significant investment to maintain and the uptime is miserable
idle swallow
If the stacks fell off one at a time I imagine it would be worth taking but since it's discussed almost never I can guess they all fall off at once
grim widget
is mkvid recon still nerfed into the dumpster at the moment?
atomic zephyr
yes
grim widget
😦
fiery lagoon
1 whole day
Plasma guns oddly enough reload faster
junior needle
is mkvid recon still nerfed into the dumpster at the moment?
It's still indisputably the best recon, but they're all still dumpster tier atm
soft blade
is mkvid recon still nerfed into the dumpster at the moment?
it’s still in the dumpster it’s just not on fire like all the other trash surrounding it
fiery lagoon
plasma is just point and click, ofc its boring
soft blade
fuck this thing is boring
the evolution of a plasma user
- God roll finally
- Holy shit this is boring
fiery lagoon
the evolution of a plasma user
1. God roll finally
2. Holy shit this is boring
So fking true
junior needle
it’s still in the dumpster it’s just not on fire like all the other trash surrou...
It's still burning a bit
A little hot garbage
fiery lagoon
I still use it when i just wanna be a stationary turret with ES
thick wolf
the evolution of a plasma user
1. God roll finally
2. Holy shit this is boring
me when I use plasmagun
sonic marlin
i'm trying the boltor
but played one game with my columnus and realized how much i missed it
fiery lagoon
bolter has seen better days
thick wolf
the 500 millenium reload doesn't help the karking thing
fiery lagoon
it got nerfed and was never buffed back iinm
Now its weaker than a revolver with longer reload and animation
tiny summit
Gotta take the vape build with plasma
polar kayak
Skirmisher is not good because it takes a very significant investment to maintai...
thanks, that's what it felt like for me, wasn't sure if iw asn't doing it right
what's the yellow bar under people's healthbars?
serene bough
Ult cooldown
final stone
junior needle
The type of guns people on the subreddit make
final stone
oh it was just a RNG in the vendor list
it just looks like it'd be an in-universe gun
soft blade
fallout pipe gun
vernal harbor
this the shit that killed shinzo
bitter turtle
this the shit that killed shinzo
Have sex
I saw a Twitter thread about japanese people finding out about the Abe meme and being extremely confused
terse idol
The doohicky
terse idol
Have sex
Honestly I gotta say, after what erupted from Abe's death, I dunno if I wanna anymore
vernal harbor
(yuri is asking me to be more normal)
serene sage
(yuri is asking me to be more normal)
fuck yuri
novel stone
I gotta get me one if those
terse idol
what?
Shibzo Abe when he was alive pushed to get the Japanese population to have more sex
Since rn the biggest problem Japan has is a rapidly aging populace and nobody wants to make baby
serene sage
Since rn the biggest problem Japan has is a rapidly aging populace and nobody wa...
does anyone?
I can't imagine myself having kids
terse idol
vernal harbor
Before that topic spirals away I just said it looked like a homemade political extremist weapon lol
terse idol
In this economy hell naw
terse idol
Before that topic spirals away I just said it looked like a homemade political e...
TO BE FAIR
terse idol
Before that topic spirals away I just said it looked like a homemade political e...
Oops
I misunderstood
you're right
😭
elder dawn
rng carried btw
serene sage
chat how good is Battlefleet Gothic?
bitter turtle
Honestly I gotta say, after what erupted from Abe's death, I dunno if I wanna an...
Twitter
My favorite tweet is when they asked why cowboy bebop lul
terse idol
bitter turtle
Also the gun he got killed by looks like some tf2 ass unlock
bitter turtle
The average japanese person is very apolitical
serene sage
so no monster truck filled with political stickers and big ass flags?
are they even trying 😔
bitter turtle
They've voted the same party into office nearly uninterrupted for the entirety of their democratic government
As in, they've literally only ever voted in another party once
serene sage
I see
bitter turtle
Logic being that "well everything isn't on fire so I guess we can just keep doing the same thing "
terse idol
Any change seems to come from, radical assassination attempts
The teenager that stabbed the japanese communist party leader
Abe getting shot
bitter turtle
Abe getting shot wasn't political funnily enough
terse idol
Oh fight
bitter turtle
I don't think it has much political effect either
terse idol
It was more to expose the abuse by the whole church
serene sage
yeah, American politics is uhhh colorful?
bitter turtle
He already wasn't the PM anymore
And ya the reason was bc cult
Not bc of his politics
terse idol
Yeah, so it was more because of the cult
iron marten
political funnily 😭
bitter turtle
So nobody really talking about the political angle besides moreso western ppl criticizing his legacy
tall torrent
I’m not sure if Shinzo Abe is more famous for denying war crimes or for telling the Japanese population to have more kids
bitter turtle
Which is fair since Abe is a real piece of shit tbh lmao
bitter turtle
I’m not sure if Shinzo Abe is more famous for denying war crimes or for telling ...
Depends if you ask Korean/Chinese people or internet memers on 4chan I imagine lol
serene sage
do you think Big E encourage people to have sex?
iron marten
I thought they would have cloning in the imperium
unless that's heretical of the highest order
bitter turtle
Cloning is illegal yeah
serene sage
cause they use Vitae Womb or something
iron marten
I mean, stims are illegal too no? lmao
bitter turtle
That's why spess mehrines have to do the geneseed shit recruit emotionally unstable teenage kids shit
bitter turtle
They aren't allowed to clone marines
edgy dew
Finally got a decent slug shotgun, what do I want to do with the last perk slot? https://i.gyazo.com/767aff6484d899bac1fb92bd4258a34d.png
serene sage
sick dude, I think maniac or unarmored
unarmored lets you one shot dreg gunners more reliably
tall torrent
I’d do maniac
serene sage
maniac is self explanatory
tall torrent
Dreg gunner you’ll most likely slug HS them anyway
edgy dew
okay ill try maniac, I have a feeling it alrdy one shots most unarmored things
serene sage
but maniac is also cool
tall torrent
It’s still inconsistent because it drops dmg
serene sage
okay ill try maniac, I have a feeling it alrdy one shots most unarmored things
you will need to finesse a little damage buff to one tap dreg gunners but it's really not a big deal
tall torrent
Or accuracy due to pellet spread
Whichever, but the 1 shots aren’t very consistent further away
serene sage
otherwise, yes, slug kills everything
stone dome
those are some neat looking stats
torpid pier
damn those stats so satisfying to look at
mystic owl
🤢
stone dome
It's fine don't look at it, here
mystic owl
NICE ROLL!
pearl granite
are headhunter and brauto gud?
zealous wyvern
killing heretics
atomic zephyr
honestly it’s pretty self explanatory
zealous wyvern
precisely from afar with some gunfu hipfire melee vs hipfire midtocloserange carnage and killing armoured targets with onslaught talent
atomic zephyr
headhunter go BANG
brauto go bangbangbang
zealous wyvern
there you go i told you everything
pearl granite
stone dome
what do with perks
soft blade
kiiinda salvageable with HH and then change infested to flak or maniac
not good but still usable
stone dome
fair nuf, this will probably sit with me for a long while
tall torrent
what do with this?
This is bricked
Very bricked actually
Prob could swap no respite to headhunter, then swap infested to flak/maniac
But having a t1 blessing is just yikes
bitter turtle
are headhunter and brauto gud?
V7 is one of my fav guns
stone dome
already done
stone dome
oh wait that’s tier one DA
one of the few blessings that are fine t1 tbh
not ideal by any means, but it will do
zealous wyvern
fair nuf, this will probably sit with me for a long while
stats are less important than blessings and perks. i think thats a pretty bad one tbh
dmg stats
pliant rain
a good rolled 350+ with better blessings perk will do better
mystic owl
I'd swap out No respite and swap infested enemies for flak/maniacs
zealous wyvern
especially the fkn mk12
you really dont want infested on that one
at least mk4 you can excuse it by saying you oneshot poxers now
but yeah those need a swap
faint perch
Does wall hack ult feel kinda bad or just me relying on shout
junior needle
Both
shout is just miles better and exe is both milder in benefit and harder to play around
midnight totem
I'm starting to like laspistol toughness on crit kill for my weapon specialist veteran
junior needle
Bring back instant reload
Monkeys paw curls
Instant reload is back, but is a separate talent that's mutually exclusive with shooter highlighting.
It's also a two parter that's behind ogryn highlights
placid portal
Ogryn mark should just have that damage bonus just like the lvl 30 upgrade
I wonder how 67% Damage vs Monster/Ogryn would fare in current patch?
shell python
so for the deadeye penance, does executioner's stance not work for it? or can you use it
faint perch
what should i go for on a dagger?
frank basin
You means combat blade aka the knife?
faint perch
i do yea
frank basin
There’s some playstyle with the knife
You want crowd control or single target dps
And no flesh tearer combine lacerate
You can go mercy killer with lacerate. Riposte with uncanny strike
frank basin
what should i go for on a dagger?
@finite imp do you know knife stuff for this guy?
faint perch
looking for aoe
frank basin
For a knife you looking cc?
Combat blade mk VI are the CC attack pattern
Mk III poke and slash single target pattern.
junior needle
You can go mercy killer with lacerate. Riposte with uncanny strike
Please do not use lacerate at all
If your intention is to light attack mostly then mk3 is objectively superior for light spam due to one of the hits having more damage. All lights on both models have the same cleave values.
frank basin
If your intention is to light attack mostly then mk3 is objectively superior for...
Or use the serrated blade node in talent
replace blessing to riposte
junior needle
I wouldn’t dump uncanny ever, it’s the strongest blessing in their pool.
frank basin
No I meant replace lacerate to riposte
sharp ember
nothing like doubling your dmg vs flak with uncanny
frank basin
Just mercy killing and riposte
junior needle
Riposte/mercy is still dumping uncanny, which is bad
Realistically the options are uncanny and something else
junior needle
Uncanny gives 120% omnipresent rending that doesn’t fall off on a miss and works without individual target buildup
Which is 30% damage even in the worst case scenario of a target being 100% or above natively
frank basin
What are you talking about?
junior needle
I'm explaining why uncanny strike is good to the guy who wants to know about knife blessings?
What else would I be talking about?
frank basin
Which is 30% damage even in the worst case scenario of a target being 100% or ab...
This I can’t comprehend
junior needle
Rending over 100% gives bonus damage at 1/4 the value.
Or over 50% in the case of crushers
frank basin
What
junior needle
Yeah, it's been doing that since it got reworked
frank basin
Rending were sucked that time?
junior needle
That was a bit unclear
But if you're asking if it used to be bad, it used to work in a very convoluted and nonsensical way, and now it's very simple and benefits you even if you have good modifiers, just less so.
frank basin
You say Rending do damage over base value to armor, right?
junior needle
Yes. You get 1/4 the value over 100% as bonus damage.
frank basin
Kk
shell python
my fucking god deadeye is annoying
sharp ember
Rending over 100% gives bonus damage at 1/4 the value.
I know they said that during the massive weapon rework of patch 13/14, but then they posted this in the notes of Orthus Offensive pt. 2
junior needle
You can test this very easily by taking a gun with a huge positive modifier (like an iag to maniacs) in the psyk and switching rending strikes on and off
bitter turtle
what should i go for on a dagger?
uncanny + riposte/precog/mercy killer
junior needle
I know they said that during the massive weapon rework of patch 13/14, but then ...
Indeed it is, I remember reading that. In game it still works as bonus damage above 100% though.
faint perch
uncanny + riposte/precog/mercy killer
and for perks?
sharp ember
ah, that’s good then
bitter turtle
and for perks?
perks are fairly flexible
junior needle
Fatshark has had issues with internal communication and clearly labeling things
frank basin
and for perks?
You could go carapace for further damage
junior needle
Hence why "base damage" is literally just damage
bitter turtle
unyieidling for boss dps, carapace for easier crusher bps, flak/maniac because flak maniac is always decent
hell
even unarmored has a use
for dreg gunners lul
faint perch
im really using it for hoard clear and speed
junior needle
I wouldn't recommend maniac currently unless you intend to regularly fight unarmored ragers with it.
sharp ember
my fucking **god** deadeye is annoying
I almost always run it with Duck n Dive or the stamina regen delay talents
bitter turtle
horde clear is the worst part about the knife
frank basin
im really using it for hoard clear and speed
Devil claw were spot for horde clear
faint perch
use a different weapon
currently using a power sword, but i wanna try somthing else
bitter turtle
and recorded
you really cant
cope the knife
into being good at horde clear
even mk6
faint perch
junior needle
Yeah knives don't excel at it like other weapons
frank basin
Is just bad cleave for knife
bitter turtle
currently using a power sword, but i wanna try somthing else
well, you can use it, just dont try to build the knife to do something it is not good at
it is a mobility and single target dps tool
mk6 does horde-ing a LITTLE better but still not very impressive
junior needle
If it could natively hit two bruisers it'd be nice
bitter turtle
or rather
you can try to make a horde knife
just dont expect it to work great
ofc you can do whatever you find fun
junior needle
To note, that means if you use heavies on the 6
light spam has slower clear on the 6
Because same cleave
frank basin
mk6 does horde-ing a LITTLE better but still not very impressive
Just blessing missing like wrath or savage sweep make it better horde clear.
bitter turtle
that was my experience as well, even though i mostly tested lights on request
junior needle
but one attack does more damage on the 3
bitter turtle
heavies seemed to be a lot better
heavies with bleed actually had sort of a niche at horde-ing? for mk6
kinda?
for poxwalkers lights have no way to kill the cleaved poxwalkers without bending over backwards really hard even if you wait out the full bleed ticks
heavy cleaves proccing crit to bleed actually could kill them in a few dot ticks
its uh
still not good compared to any weapon actually good at horde clear
since ur relying on a dot for the weakest enemy in the game
but its... something?
lol
frank basin
Knife bleed bad it is?
wanton dawn
Never go into a melee weapon expecting it to outclass a PS in other things than dodging.
Then you can have fun
faint perch
Never go into a melee weapon expecting it to outclass a PS in other things than ...
thats true. plus my power sword is probably my best melee weapon across all my characters
frank basin
I didn’t use knife but that’s as long ago i used mark 3. Then I deleted it
faint perch
could it be better?
bitter turtle
I didn’t use knife but that’s as long ago i used mark 3. Then I deleted it
you can use rashad if you want a weapon similar in power to psword
also very strong
knife is really good but its more of a mobility tool than a weapon
it opens up a lot of opportunities to move around
but it doesnt do much in combat other than elite killing
it kinda forces your gun to play around your knife
wanton dawn
Rashad is way, way harder to build
frank basin
you can use rashad if you want a weapon similar in power to psword
i don’t like bm has to land headshot to make horde clear except my chainaxe easily kill it.
junior needle
I haven’t been assed to actually test it though
Reconfirmed for your viewing pleasure
bitter turtle
a lot of people pair brautos with knife since brautos can mow down hordes
frank basin
Like graia
wanton dawn
Also rashad being "weaker" against rager is a big deal
frank basin
thats true. plus my power sword is probably my best melee weapon across all my c...
You means you have 4-5 veteran account?
bitter turtle
i honestly like rashad better on hordes than psword
just because you dont need to charge
lol
psword has better elite sniping though
meme stabbo
wanton dawn
On horde i prefer bayo
junior needle
Lacerate is bad, because it's a trap blessing that encourages bodyshots on a finesse weapon. Flesh tearer is alright on zealot but I wouldn't take it on vet personally.
wanton dawn
Bayo is arguably stronger than PS for anything that is not in carapace
bitter turtle
yeah
lol
well
maulers too
even poking the flak body is still slower than psword
its not terrible though
frank basin
Ps when hating carapace on veteran
bitter turtle
ye
wanton dawn
On my bayo build, I play PS specifically to deal with carapace better
sharp ember
Reconfirmed for your viewing pleasure
wonderful, that puts me at ease
frank basin
On dclaw?
bitter turtle
im assuming bm is not very good since it seems incapable of oneshotting anything
wanton dawn
Yeah but katana needs bm
can't have a katana that does not cleave head
This is not subarashi
bitter turtle
im gonna turn every melee into a katana
frank basin
https://i.gyazo.com/c0326a221bcf4530521c2258e5bbebd6.jpg
Is that the DClaw you’re using?
bitter turtle
and bring honor to atoma
bitter turtle
Is that the DClaw you’re using?
its a mk4 taxe lol
frank basin
Alright
frank basin
It doesn’t feel right using Sabre blade on tacaxe
You hitting the bottom blade
Instead middle or end of the blade
frank basin
Show me clip what you means by that
bitter turtle
Show me clip what you means by that
frank ether
to simulate unsheathing my katana
frank ether
skill issue
frank basin
skill issue
Blame apple for that
frank basin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVhB1urcD68
👍
placid portal
lmao
terse idol
What are you using webm for this isn’t 4chins
placid portal
am simple computer user, apple computers be kinda meh
frank basin
I’m on bed with my iPhone and is 3 morning with apple mobile distractions
placid portal
will not pay 2k$ for some mid machine
frank basin
My laptop is asleep
umbral scaffold
Oh yea apple computers suck
placid portal
imagine paying 999$ for the fucking stand alone
frank basin
iPhone supreme?
placid portal
or was it 799$
umbral scaffold
iPhone supreme.
frank basin
iPhone supreme
umbral scaffold
iPhone supreme
placid portal
umbral scaffold
iPhone supreme? iPhone supreme, iPhone supreme. iPhone supreme
placid portal
yall running apple while im booting my telegram machine on my back
frank basin
iPhone supreme, IPHONE SUPREME
umbral scaffold
Telegram what are you
A drug dealer
Oh wait you meant actual telegrams
My bad gang
frank basin
Telegram the app?
placid portal
umbral scaffold
can’t understand you I speak words not beeps and boops
placid portal
PURGE
umbral scaffold
Concerning that the furries are using telegram. The implication is grim.
This is why we have the patriot act
placid portal
umbral scaffold
This is the worst swat team I’ve seen
frank basin
You wanna see my telegram meme @umbral scaffold? I would send to dm only
frank basin
Is not
frank basin
I haven’t try
bitter turtle
guess ill get it
saw this in melk
seems passable enough
might as well try a new weapon
umbral scaffold
Your meme was even worse than the cat in a blender.
umbral scaffold
Furry gyatt
umbral scaffold
Yea sorry bud rather see the cat get turned into a smoothie alive again
frank basin
Yea sorry bud rather see the cat get turned into a smoothie alive again
Sorry to hear
Here last one
frank basin
What,
umbral scaffold
Just not what you’re doing rn
stiff glacier
not sure is this good
umbral scaffold
Jesus, Muhammad, Yahweh, spaghetti monster or kwanza. Believe in what you want as long as it’s not furry porn
stiff glacier
need +25 vs maniacs probably
frank basin
Jesus, Muhammad, Yahweh, spaghetti monster or kwanza. Believe in what you want a...
Nah I don’t follow that much. I’m not active looking furry stuff. I’m just depressed to do something
umbral scaffold
Be not depressed. Whenever you don’t feel like doing something imagine the chadgryn
frank basin
That’s sound toxic positive I think?
umbral granite
I think i wasted all my hadron luck on a shovel... 2 level 4 blessings in a row...
umbral scaffold
Was gonna go on a rant about how toxic positive is just a buzz word but this is vet chat
My bad gang
umbral scaffold
attacking ragers with melee isn’t the brightest idea
umbral scaffold
counter point: guns
umbral scaffold
Counter counter point: guns extend much further than 3 meters
gusty bison
Unironically
gusty bison
Counter counter point: guns extend much further than 3 meters
Yea but
- Guns use ammo
- Shovel kills fast
umbral scaffold
Ragers are elites and replenish ammo with survivalist, shovel kills fast sure but ragers are maniacs and take increased dmg from melee when you do find an opening
umbral scaffold
Proof?
gusty bison
Just go into psykaniun =.=
umbral granite
Maniac on melee is kinda wack because maniacs already take x3 dmg from melee
I slap it on some meele weapons because mutant waves are a pain, and my teams aren't always reliable when it comes to mutant killing (90% of my games are quickplay)
umbral scaffold
Ragers are tankier
gusty bison
Ragers are tankier
Ragers only have 2k hp
Vs muties 4k
But its easier to kill muties in melee than rager
frank basin
Was gonna go on a rant about how toxic positive is just a buzz word but this is ...
I got other person to talk. I think we should forget the shenanigans
Is awkward for me
umbral scaffold
I’ll test rager dmg In psykhanium out but unless someone else is dodging and Kiting the rager it’s usually not worth trading with ragers
Maybe if I had a devils claw
tough tiger
Just parry
gusty bison
Plus ur vet
Taking one hit means nothing since ur tou just instantly bounces back to full anyway
gusty bison
Shooting is sometimes not possible
proven oasis
counter point: las gun go pew pew make me happi
umbral scaffold
Feel bad for ragers, they haven’t gotten a real update from their Vermintide berserkers roots, get put into a world with fully automatic weapons and guns that melt your face off
Also said universe people can now slide and sprint
proven oasis
Also said universe people can now slide and sprint
and they are getting a PvP update soon too
gusty bison
You can chainblock berserkers in VT2 no problem
umbral scaffold
Vermintide pvp is gonna get very toxic I have a gut feeling
It’s more accessible considering it was free at several points in time
gusty bison
Also ragers are a lot more resillient in DT than berserkers are in VT2
umbral scaffold
Usually on sale for pennies
gusty bison
A lot of guns struggle to get 1 tap breakpoints on ragers
But berserkers are usually a comfy easy 1 tap
Even in the body for some weps
umbral scaffold
You make a good point abt the ragers being updated but remember players got upgrades too, it feels easy to increase distance from ragers while also shooting them in the face repeatedly
Vermintide players were much less mobile
gusty bison
Yea but in VT2 u just one tapped them