#veteran-class

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gusty bison
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At least at high difficulties

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Ur almost never not trying to hit a special or elite or gunner through a crowd

sleek garden
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actually idk

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at high difficulties there's a ton of specials but there's not always a horde rushing you at the same time

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just half the time

gusty bison
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The horde makes it easier

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Tbh

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Cos it cuts the ranged fire

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The hardest is when u have 30 gunners AND 10 specials

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And its an open field

sleek garden
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I usually just lag behind my three revolver zealots and vets and psykers and shoot

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Because in auric you have the meta people dissolving enemies

gusty bison
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Being in the back with that loadout is kinda dangerous on auric thou

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Cos u get backspawned by specials

sleek garden
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yes

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The real problem with it is sprint speed

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actually I don't think that's it's fault

gusty bison
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Most marksman weapons wanna be in the middle of the team

sleek garden
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I just play with really speedy knife zealots and psykers and vets

gusty bison
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Not the back

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When ur in the back ur vulnerable

sleek garden
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I tend to end up in the back anyway

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I don't use very light weapons normally I use the chainaxe and the lasguns

gusty bison
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Chainaxe is fast enough

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Tbh

sleek garden
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yes

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but I always forget to switch to the axe to run

serene bough
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you guys are definitely right, it's just something im probably used to and havent noticed

sleek garden
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everyone else is usually using knife+revolver or perhaps chain sword+revolver

gusty bison
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iLas also isnt that slow

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Its faster than the helbore

serene bough
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but I feel like this should be how most weapons should work

gusty bison
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But helbore can keep up fine

serene bough
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should work*

bitter turtle
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well

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v7 doesnt work this way at least

gusty bison
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I think its a case of iLas users being hesitent to rush forwards

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Cos iLas sucks at short range

bitter turtle
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besides the downward movement on dodge, i can trust the dot

serene bough
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mg4 can pull its weight in mid-short range, but yeah its definitely aimed to be a more long range playstyle

sleek garden
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ilas literally has reverse damage falloff so point blank I'm shooting people 4 times before they die

gusty bison
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Yep

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Which is painful

sleek garden
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do not think this means I'm afraid to whip out a melee weapon

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Because I do

gusty bison
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Thats the annoying thing about iLas

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It wants to sit in the back, but has poor dodges and agility so its bad at sitting in the back

sleek garden
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I've come full circle back to the default catachan sword

serene bough
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you don't necessarily need to sit in the back with it

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you can comfortably kill things as long as you click the head

gusty bison
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You dont but the inverse damage is painful at shorter ranges

sleek garden
gusty bison
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U do start missing BPs at 15m or less

vernal harbor
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Las 12 master veteran weapon

sleek garden
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Where you don't actually have to sit in the back

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There's areas with long sight ranges

gusty bison
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Yea but for those places id rather have like...

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Any other gun

sleek garden
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A horde mower

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Or just the revolver again

gusty bison
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Nah not even

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Bolter

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Id deffo want the bolter there

serene sage
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watching las users suffer is one of my favorite pastime UwU

gusty bison
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V7 loves that place

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Helbore (duh)

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Laspistol

sleek garden
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I never suffer using my lasgun

gusty bison
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Like the lasgun doesnt atrike me as any better than any of those options

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In a long sightline environment

sleek garden
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Not sure how the laspistol benefits from long engagement ranges

gusty bison
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1-2 quick taps

sleek garden
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the normal laser gun does that too though

gusty bison
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Higher dps. Higher damage.

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Yes laspis has falloff

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But

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It still hits its BPs

serene bough
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what're we using this for

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you won't mow down trash faster than an mg4 with shocktroop

gusty bison
serene bough
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ah i see

sleek garden
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I mostly use it for specials and little soldiers

gusty bison
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I generally dont bother shooting trash

soft blade
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you don’t really wanna mow down trash with a lasgun anyways

terse idol
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I do like the mgia over the vraks7 for the higher mag capacity

gusty bison
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Even the best trash mower gun mows trash slower than a melee

bitter turtle
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1a cant one tap bp on gunners no?

sleek garden
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Specifically for shooters

serene bough
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mg4 can mow trash, just don't mow trash right in front of your face

sleek garden
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I've seen it in the range

gusty bison
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A lot of guns can

sleek garden
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not sure why it's only them

gusty bison
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Actually like

idle swallow
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laspistol with marksmans focus feels pretty good from the few matches I've done

gusty bison
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Nearly all guns cleave 1 groaner

sleek garden
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I wonder why they don't cleave pox walkers

gusty bison
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Poxwalkers have more hit mass

sleek garden
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Feels like poxers would be weaker

serene bough
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meatier horde enemy

bitter turtle
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this is v7 niche lul

serene bough
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blessed by nurgle

crude ermine
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More like blessed by turtle

gusty bison
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Except iLas

bitter turtle
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dont think anything does it as fast as it

gusty bison
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Oh and laspis non crits but laspis crits so much

bitter turtle
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stil lnee dto charge helbores to do that

gusty bison
bitter turtle
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for helbore

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well

idle swallow
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putting scope on v7 weapon? Nyet, rifle is fine

bitter turtle
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needing a crit is still unreliable

serene sage
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do what, one shotting dregs on headshot?

bitter turtle
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at least imo

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lul

sleek garden
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Is there a use to spamming helbore shots

gusty bison
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Theres a reciprocity Deadshot Lpis build that gets very VERY high crits

serene sage
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bolt can do it thumbsup_ogryn

gusty bison
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Bolter too ye

bitter turtle
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bolter is clunky and slow

sleek garden
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Okay I know I'm not supposed to fire bolters into a crowd of poxwalkers

serene sage
sleek garden
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But watching brown explosions is fun

serene bough
shadow aurora
pearl belfry
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is there an animation cancel tech for mk 6 power sword??

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when activating weapon special

crude ermine
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Yes

serene sage
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it's absolutely worth it

pearl belfry
serene sage
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on wait poxwalkers

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nevermind KEKW_ogryn

gusty bison
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Foxhope realizing their error

bitter turtle
serene sage
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why they give the bolter the random 60% modifer vs infested is beyond me

sleek garden
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though I feel sad when I'm doing the scab only modifier and there's like 10 crushers crowding me and I'm like

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This is a job for spamming bolter

gusty bison
serene sage
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like it shoots dogs, busters, and poxes worse?

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it doens't matter yeah but it's such a stupid idea

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like, why

sleek garden
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And I don't kill anything even though every shot hits someone

serene sage
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why those specifically

shadow aurora
gusty bison
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Unless ur a zealot

serene sage
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it serves no purpose beyond annoying the player

crude ermine
sleek garden
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Feels like that's supposed to be what it does

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remove those guys

gusty bison
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On zealot it works

sleek garden
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But when I use it in the firing range it takes like 4 headshots to kill a crusher

gusty bison
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On vet ur just missing/hitting a lot of ineffectual shots

serene sage
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1 or 2 I would ADS for headshot

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against a bunch like 4 or 5 im holding M1 KEKW_ogryn

gusty bison
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Id prefer to nade tbh

serene sage
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i mean yeah

gusty bison
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Cos effectively same thing

serene sage
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but beyond that

gusty bison
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Ur knocking them down

sleek garden
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I use the frag I can't live without it

gusty bison
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Frag is the nade im talking about

sleek garden
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when I get overwhelmed frag

gusty bison
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For crusher hordes

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Toss a nade

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Knock em down

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Plink some to death

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Stab the rest

sleek garden
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oh is no respite good on bolter

gusty bison
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No

sleek garden
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I've never thought about it

hollow ibex
sleek garden
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I like it on my lawbringer

gusty bison
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On 90% of targets, the guy u shot is dead

sleek garden
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I can 3 shot maulers

gusty bison
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So norespite has 0 value

serene sage
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Bolter has no respite???

gusty bison
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I dunno

sleek garden
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I don't know

gusty bison
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But it deffo is ass if it wason bolter

bitter turtle
sleek garden
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I'm stuck with inspiring barrage which is stupid

serene sage
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I just checked, it doesn't

bitter turtle
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it shouldnt show the lightning on your sword initially

gusty bison
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Bolter on vet wants surgical + Pinning Fire

sleek garden
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I don't want toughness back

gusty bison
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Bolter on zealot wants cavalcade + Pinning fire

sleek garden
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I want to kill

serene sage
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it has Surgical PF Shattering Glory Calvacade Inspiring

sleek garden
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Actually wait you're right

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Crushers don't stagger on bolter hits

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I forgot

serene sage
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they do?

sleek garden
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Huh

gusty bison
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Zealot can M1 spam the bolter cos zel turns it into a laser beam

gusty bison
sleek garden
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I use it in the firing range they don't even flinch

gusty bison
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By which point they ded

old quail
sleek garden
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I'll check my bolter

serene sage
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yeah but for PF purposes idc because it basically stack per targets per bullet

old quail
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mine has like 33% and i dont think i can build pinning fire off a crusher

sleek garden
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I only use weapons above 370

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I only have a few blessings for bolter

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does it have something like deadly accurate

old quail
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o sorry i can it just takes 12 fkin shots lmao

serene sage
bitter turtle
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i think

sleek garden
serene sage
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Surgical PF Shattering are what you want

sleek garden
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I take reload speed on my bolter and then reload perks in the tree

bitter turtle
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i uh

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know its not very clear

sleek garden
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I want more bullets fast

bitter turtle
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but rest assured he is staggered

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lol

serene sage
bitter turtle
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its a naked grey one

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with 50 collateral

crude ermine
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Up your-

frank basin
serene sage
bitter turtle
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i prefer nudity

serene sage
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😔 lwed

sleek garden
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Tactical reload, the one that gives you reload speed on special kill, Marksman's focus

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But the boost from Marksman's focus is tiny

frank basin
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Well if you snipe land headshot

sleek garden
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I just want the headshot damage

frank basin
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I see

serene sage
sleek garden
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I have grown to greatly appreciate the bolter bash

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I don't want to do the deploy bolter animation every time I get attacked

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smack em

frank basin
serene sage
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clearly you don't live in icy winter area KEKW_ogryn

frank basin
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Now we have icy winter

bitter turtle
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ok wtf

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now its not staggering

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🤔

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on first shot

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game confusing

white minnow
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distance, probably

bitter turtle
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whatever fuck bolter

white minnow
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if you're up close, it has less stagger

serene sage
bitter turtle
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oh

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wow

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i didnt know that

white minnow
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yeah it also doesn't have the explosion on kill if you're too close as well

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such is the life of inverse range stuff

serene sage
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i guess the rocket needs time to speed up?

old quail
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it has a minimum arming distance

gusty bison
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Boulder

serene sage
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whatever it's a stupid game anyway

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we need a Starcraft x 40k crossover

gusty bison
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Infested marines

serene sage
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Gauss Rifle > Boltgun

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Harsh but true

gusty bison
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Siege Tank > Leman Russ

serene sage
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oh 100%

bitter turtle
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you know

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if you stack

serene sage
bitter turtle
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every single reload speed talent and MF

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bolter reloads as fast as an IAG

serene sage
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did you know grenade damage is buffed by Pinning Fire, which itself is buffed by grenade stagger?

gusty bison
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Leman Russ: Oh no an infantry touched me im doomed.

Siege tank: I will scratch ur back from infantry my chad friend, WITH MY ARTILLERY SHELL

gusty bison
serene sage
gusty bison
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True

bitter turtle
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omg deepest lore

gusty bison
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But boy is it fucking scary

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Charging a siege tank line be one of the scariest things around

serene sage
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Terran Ghost would give 40k Psyker a wallop imo

gusty bison
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I mean

serene sage
gusty bison
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Cos ghosts are actually armed

serene sage
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I mean yes KEKW_ogryn

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Ghost are basically Grey Knights but a lot less armored

gusty bison
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Yep

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And a lot more common

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And they also call in nooks

serene sage
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and some ghosts have universe alterning power KEKW_ogryn

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cough Queen of Blades cough

gusty bison
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Kerrig-

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Lel

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Even nova is scary

raw steppe
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man

gusty bison
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I will destroy a fucking STARSHIP

raw steppe
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blizzard is so disappointing

gusty bison
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WITH MY MIND

raw steppe
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i can't believe

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they let starcraft

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as a franchise just die like that

gusty bison
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Its not profitable

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Is the issue

serene sage
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it's too heavily involved in eSport

raw steppe
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both the RTS and the potential spinoffs like ghost

raw steppe
serene sage
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that any new title must pass the esport bar

raw steppe
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they just fucked up lmao

gusty bison
raw steppe
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right

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but i think

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that's cuz they fucked up

serene sage
raw steppe
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rather than it being inherently unprofitable

gusty bison
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SC2 is as big as it gets

serene sage
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RTS as a genre just gets less popular

gusty bison
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Its the most popular and successful RTS game

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Period

serene sage
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yeah, retrospective on SC2, it was a wonderful success

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source: was a sweaty SC2 competitor, used to partake in local tourney, religiously watch its esport scene

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RTSs are just a dead genre

raw steppe
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not sure that's true lol

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there's a decent bit of demand

gusty bison
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Its not dead dead

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Just niche

raw steppe
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for RTS

gusty bison
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Like

raw steppe
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like aoe2 is popping off rn

gusty bison
raw steppe
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and aoe4 was successful enough

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that microsoft is investing into it

serene sage
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"popping off" compared to what?

gusty bison
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Like

raw steppe
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i'm p sure it has more viewers than d4

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LOL

gusty bison
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Compare it to other popular games in other genres

raw steppe
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this is pretty respectable tbh

bitter turtle
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did people uh

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like sc2

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i only ever hear bad things

gusty bison
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18k players is...

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Not a lot

gusty bison
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Sc2 was good

raw steppe
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18k players is quite good what the fuck

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are you smoking lmao

gusty bison
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People just whine cos competitive people whine

bitter turtle
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well

gusty bison
bitter turtle
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i heard more than just esports complaints

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story ones too lul

raw steppe
gusty bison
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And niche

bitter turtle
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wow

gusty bison
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Also no

bitter turtle
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the class update saved darktide

gusty bison
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Payday 2

serene sage
# bitter turtle i only ever hear bad things

uhh the fact that it was split into 3 different installation is a massive blunder ngl
still, it sold well
esport complains are par for the course. look at r/leagueoflegends, you would think the game is ready to implode in the next 5 hours

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gameplay wise and esport wise it did well

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the campaign is also great, minus the lackluster ending

gusty bison
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Yea the ending was

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Generic

finite imp
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Why did I get pinged

raw steppe
bitter turtle
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i heard ppl complain they made zergs good

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i only finished sc1 broodwar so idk

gusty bison
serene sage
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it came out of nowhere and lacked severe impact

gusty bison
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2

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Not 3

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3 is dead in the water

raw steppe
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payday 2 is aite but i dont think it's best in genre

serene sage
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like kerringan from a complex character becomes as bland as her model

gusty bison
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Also L4D2

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Still gets more numbers

raw steppe
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if numbers = good

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fortnite would be the best game in the world

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i still hold that dt is best in genre

gusty bison
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Yes

serene sage
vernal harbor
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Surprised fatshark even gets a profit to pay everyone from their stuff

gusty bison
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Like best in other genres are world shaking things.

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League of Legends

serene sage
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so lots of salt against zergs late game

bitter turtle
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in the story

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like

gusty bison
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CS and Valorant

bitter turtle
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that zergs are kumbaya around the boy scout bonfire friends with everyone now

gusty bison
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Baldur's Gate

serene sage
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that much is true, which is why I really hate the ending

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it's lukewarm

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happy ending zergs are good now type deal

hearty panther
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ima be real the characters for Starcraft were always at best cliche and at worst straight up bad

gusty bison
serene sage
gusty bison
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So its not entirely good

hearty panther
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Starcraft 1/Brood War just left things open for a sequel

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and the answers it gave were all awful

serene sage
gusty bison
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Post SC2 ending

serene sage
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if you are referring to the One Day War

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then Zagara is an even worse doormat

gusty bison
serene sage
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I read the book 😄

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Zagara was an absolute doormat in that book

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like a submissive puppy

gusty bison
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I mean

Queens were made to be doormats :P

serene sage
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to the swarm maybe, but to Valerian Mengsk of all people?

gusty bison
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Look. Kerrigan was gone

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Zagara looking for a new door to mat at

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:P

serene sage
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like imagine this, you invite the enemy to your home for a peace talk
they go into your house, break your precious chinese
then put a candy bowl to lure your children to a corner, then quite literally nuke it
then have the audacity to ask you to come outside your house to prove that you have been "unreasonable"

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yes some of it is Abathur's doing, but a lot of it is also Zagara being a complete pushover

gusty bison
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But like

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Nothing of value was lost

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At least in the zerg mindset

serene sage
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the pride of the swarm imo

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I don't mind them co-existing

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that's fine

gusty bison
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Can zerg even feel pride?

crisp abyss
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hey i need a gun to destory hordes and i heard recon las gun is good

gusty bison
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Dont use a gun

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To kill hordes

serene sage
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but the idea that the swarm has to "help" the other two races and basically grow plants for them is laughable

gusty bison
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Thats how u fail the penance

finite imp
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You can always tell what kind of people choose the banned words list

serene sage
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like zergs are cattles now???

gusty bison
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I meaaaan

finite imp
serene sage
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I meaaaaaaan

gusty bison
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Yes?

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The creep literally is cattle

crisp abyss
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then i need something to kill things really fast

gusty bison
serene sage
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to themselves maybe, I consider the swarm to be an identity KEKW_ogryn

gusty bison
finite imp
gusty bison
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Swarm is a hive mind but like

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The higher ups treat the low levels as completely disposable

finite imp
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I literally cannot remember it

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Hmmm

signal mango
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If someone uses braced to deal with Horde.
What do you do when you meet a special/Monstrosity?

hard briar
finite imp
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Like idk

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A KNIFE

hard briar
serene sage
# gusty bison Swarm is a hive mind but like

In my ideal world, SC2 ending could be a Terran-Protoss alliance with a small amount of non-agressive Zerg lead by Zagara.
The rest of the Zerg are scattered around like Ork Warghs led by different queens, lying dormant but can explode at any moment

crisp abyss
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i thinking about using my gun for horde then my melee for big guys

finite imp
signal mango
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Then why is Braced even a thing - if it isn't for horde.

white minnow
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i usually always run the mk6 psword which is pretty good against unyielding

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cuz brrrr

hard briar
serene sage
finite imp
hard briar
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Like easily

finite imp
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With good cleave braced cuts through armor too

hard briar
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Literally look over there, fire

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It's gone

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Minimal fear of "oh no but I missed the weakspot modifier"

soft blade
raw steppe
soft blade
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specials just hope it isn’t a sniper ig

signal mango
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I always thought braced was ... * ahem * ... a negligent use of bullets.

finite imp
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Ez

raw steppe
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it's meant to feel different, feel weightier

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it has different suppression values and also doesn't get suppressed as easily

wanton dawn
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Braced agri is a the heaviest an autogun can get

finite imp
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No other gun matched it in damage per round

serene sage
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wrong, Bolter is the heaviest an autogun can get

raw steppe
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as well as having more of the damage frontloaded into base damage, compared to iag where dmg is backloaded into weakspot/crits

finite imp
hard briar
signal mango
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Why would you use Braced on Specials when a revolver(my carry) does better?
Isn't HORDE, what braced was for?

raw steppe
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because revolver is overtuned

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currently

finite imp
finite imp
wanton dawn
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Braced is better hoose than revolver

crisp abyss
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hey is anything better than the boltgun and plasma gun for big guys?

hard briar
serene sage
finite imp
hard briar
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While ur reloading, I'm still sholting

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I've been shooting

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Amd will continue to shoot

finite imp
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Also brautos are amazing for suppression

serene sage
hard briar
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I'll be sure to write to you from the evac shuttle whilst u finish reloading ur revolver

finite imp
signal mango
finite imp
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If devs read this chat the revolver would be doing 2 damage and make squeaky toy noises whenever you fired it

gusty bison
serene sage
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if devs read this chat, plasma would have been bottom tier again KEKW_ogryn

crisp abyss
finite imp
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All of our favorite guns would get nerfed tbh

serene sage
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and Recon would have a bayonet attached

finite imp
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Mostly cuz we're insufferable

serene sage
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to solve its damage issue KEKW_ogryn

raw steppe
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it should be 45ish total rather than 57 total

finite imp
wanton dawn
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If dev read vet chat, recon might get nerfed again KEKW_ogryn

tall torrent
serene sage
finite imp
serene sage
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one shot ONE kill

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not one shot FIVE kills

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it can one tap crushers, i honestly don't care

finite imp
serene sage
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but it should one shot ONE crusher

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ONE gunner

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not five

finite imp
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Killed 7 shotgunners in one shot and the pubbies said he was reporting me

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😦

crisp abyss
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hey ive been thinking and i think braced autogun can be good for big guys and little guys

finite imp
#

It's not my fault they were in a line

serene sage
hard briar
#

Idk who made up the idea that braced are horde clear but

wanton dawn
#

It kinda can

raw steppe
#

braced can actually do that lol

#

you can pretty easily clear bruisers and bucket heads

hard briar
raw steppe
#

no point clearing trash

#

though

wanton dawn
crisp abyss
#

hey can braced kill a crusher in one mag?

hard briar
#

If I have to tell u go stop eating the ammo

#

Because the team isnout

#

And it's because ur shitting whole mags at 7 poxwlakers

hollow ibex
wanton dawn
#

You dont though whatthefuck_heresy

hard briar
#

Ppl do that shit tho

crisp abyss
hard briar
#

You tell them this weapon is for trash clear, they will literally do it

#

Only for it

hollow ibex
# crisp abyss wat

Since braced has extra cleave and infantry auto guns have bonus headshot damage

hard briar
#

And for every instance of trash that doesn't need ammo

wanton dawn
#

I mean, bad ppl are bad

hard briar
#

I primarily play with pubs

bitter turtle
#

brauto can kill everythign at close/medium ranges with onslaught

crisp abyss
wanton dawn
#

Meh. I dont value onslaught

#

I dont need autogun to kill crushers

hollow ibex
#

Unless I'm going down the melee tree

#

I wouldn't take onslaught for auto guns

wanton dawn
#

Taking onslaught is very costly imo

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Cuz it reach nowhere

hollow ibex
#

Yeah

finite imp
hollow ibex
#

You really have to go out of your way to take it unless you're taking melee keystones

bitter turtle
#

i think brauto pairs well with melee builds personally

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so id just do it

#

imo

rigid whale
wanton dawn
#

It does

finite imp
midnight totem
#

Brauto is pretty good period

rigid whale
#

is it that exact image or just the same guy?

finite imp
#

that exact image

rigid whale
#

oh my god

#

lmaoooo

finite imp
#

?

serene sage
#

Based Dad?

#

Lmao

finite imp
#

lmfao im just fucking w yall

#

i know what the meme is

rigid whale
#

that's a good one

#

tell your dad I said hi either way

finite imp
#

bro I thought it was a compliment i sent it to my gf

serene sage
#

Tell your Mom I said Hi

finite imp
#

its like telling your dad lol means lots of love

wanton dawn
#

I use this for agri brauto

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serene sage
#

Nuh uh

crisp abyss
#

you should charge your phone

frank basin
serene sage
#

It's 36% bro

hollow ibex
serene sage
wanton dawn
finite imp
hollow ibex
frank basin
#

I like veteran got grenade regeneration

#

Ogryn only had few guns to shoot

wanton dawn
#

Ogryn stole susfire from us

serene sage
#

Ogryn stole all the ammo too

frank basin
finite imp
#

my body hurts but im doing laundy so the hot water low 😦

#

rip me

hard briar
# finite imp yeah

I will send you the context of where this image comes from so you know what your dad means

finite imp
#

i know what it is lol

hard briar
finite imp
#

didnt he record himself walking into an alleyway like damn i fucked up i got issues and then he unalived

hard briar
#

Ppl still making vods about him as we speak, playing tekken 8

faint perch
#

Is a plasma gun better then a bolter?

sonic marlin
#

got another

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hard briar
finite imp
#

ETIKA

#

IT WAS WTIKA

#

ETIKA

serene sage
faint perch
#

Imma take that as a yes

serene sage
#

Plasma is the strongest gun rn lel

frank basin
#

And some of people wanna nerf it

wanton dawn
#

Do not compare plasma and bolter rn

finite imp
#

@hard briar it was ETIKA i was thinking about

wanton dawn
#

Bolter will lose

faint perch
#

hows the monster DPS? i can delete 50% hp on bosses with my bolter in 1 mag

finite imp
frank basin
soft blade
serene sage
faint perch
wanton dawn
#

Plasma "lacks" dps

#

Due to heat

serene sage
frank basin
finite imp
#

do you guys like Jerma

serene sage
#

Like just take it out for a ride

#

You'll see

frank basin
faint perch
finite imp
wanton dawn
finite imp
faint perch
#

this any good? take it i want max charge time?

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frank basin
#

German

finite imp
#

AEN

frank basin
wanton dawn
finite imp
faint perch
#

im asuming not

frank basin
serene sage
finite imp
frank basin
#

One shot like 500 dmg in most trash enemies

serene sage
#

It one shot nearly everything in game

finite imp
wanton dawn
serene sage
#

Triple on charged

finite imp
#

he did an entire skit where he rented a STUDIO so the audience could play cooperative sims with him as the sim

frank basin
#

1000?

finite imp
#

and they build a fake sim house and EVERYTHING

serene sage
#

Should be

#

Just look at the damage table ig

wanton dawn
#

Yeah, i grew out of it

finite imp
#

but ok

frank basin
#

Each shot plasma like 500-600

wanton dawn
#

And puns

finite imp
frank basin
#

Damnation enemies around between 300-500 for some trash enemies

finite imp
#

fucking normie

frank basin
#

Elite got like 1000 or 2000

serene sage
#

I can one shot on body dreg gunners with my plasma

finite imp
#

MMM SPICY PORK NOODLE

#

YUMMY

frank basin
serene sage
#

Check the damage table with talents

serene sage
frank basin
#

Okay that’s why

wanton dawn
faint perch
#

what should i roll for on this boi?

finite imp
#

they should make like an overlay mod that has EVERY stat in it, and when you hover over that stat, it highlights the talents that effect that stat

frank basin
#

Blaze away

wanton dawn
finite imp
#

it's black also

#

not back

serene sage
#

People only pretend to hate puns

#

Everyone loves them

#

You can't change my mind

finite imp
frank basin
#

Propaganda

wanton dawn
#

I dont care. You are talking english semantic with a frenchman

#

You lose by default

frank basin
#

Are you French?

wanton dawn
#

Maybe

frank basin
#

Hmmm

finite imp
frank basin
serene sage
finite imp
wanton dawn
finite imp
#

no we dont

serene sage
#

Mr. 20x4 + 10 + 9

finite imp
#

LOL

#

IMPERIAL SUCKS

hard briar
serene sage
#

COUNTING

#

Not MEASURING

finite imp
#

FRENCH PEOPLE USE THE SAME NUMBERS

wanton dawn
finite imp
#

WTF ARE YOU ON ABOUT

hard briar
#

This is a voc build one shooting mutant on crit with a headshot

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serene sage
hard briar
#

Oh that was just a headshot

serene sage
#

DO IT

hard briar
#

No crit

#

Kek

frank basin
#

Base default

wanton dawn
#

4x20 10 9

tall torrent
#

French people have smth called a quatre-vingt dix-sept which is 4x20 + (10+7) = 97

finite imp
hard briar
frank basin
hard briar
serene sage
finite imp
#

no wonder they hate ujs

#

CUZ THEY AINT US

wanton dawn
serene sage
#

You ain't French

hard briar
#

HE IS DIFFERENT IN A WAY I DONT LIKE AND THEREFORE HERETICAL

finite imp
#

i am a cheeseburger man

finite imp
wanton dawn
hard briar
#

HE DRIVES A BIKE IN THE SIDE WALK DESPITE THEIR BEING A PERFECTLY FINE BIKE LANE!

wanton dawn
#

Man you ppl are making it too easy !

serene sage
#

Okay but a kettle is black

#

The fact that pot might also be black doesn't change that fact

wanton dawn
finite imp
#

my pot is red c:

serene sage
hard briar
#

peculiar that you see a kettle and note it's color first before anything else

wanton dawn
hard briar
finite imp
#

i love red kitchen appliances and kitchenware

hard briar
#

I want to see a 40k themed kitchen

finite imp
serene sage
hard briar
#

Like, a servo skull on the Even

finite imp
frank basin
finite imp
wanton dawn
#

Tbf, foxhope see therefore it is

finite imp
#

RACIST IN THE VICINITY

frank basin
#

Racist Asian

serene sage
#

I think F1 are overrated and NASCAR is actually fun as fuck

finite imp
#

ALL PERSONNEL TAKE COVER

wanton dawn
#

Hence queen, you are prob a girl in his eyes whatthefuck_heresy

finite imp
serene sage
#

I've been to a NASCAR race and it's the superior race

frank basin
finite imp
wanton dawn
finite imp
#

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serene sage
frank basin
#

Nascar havoc

finite imp
#

MAX VERSTAPPEN

#

DO DO DO EH

frank basin
#

NASCAR is full of car accident by guarantee

#

Some crew men lit on fire from invisible fuel

serene sage
serene sage
finite imp
#

in reality people just wanna watch people die

serene sage
#

Be racist, but be correct

finite imp
#

or almost die

frank basin
finite imp
frank basin
#

Family guy is full of joke

finite imp
#

he drives nascar

frank basin
#

Someone put family guy and subway surfer next to it

wanton dawn
#

Family guy is a subtle as a door in my face though

hard briar
wanton dawn
frank basin
finite imp
hard briar
# frank basin It won’t be like Cars

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finite imp
#

nascar just needs weapons

#

and itll be the best sport ever

#

rocket launchers and tire spikes

serene sage
#

Death Race type deal KEKW_ogryn

wanton dawn
#

Wrong franchise

finite imp
#

hell yeah

wanton dawn
hard briar
serene sage
#

Anyone here played that stupid Pet Racer game as a kid?

finite imp
#

i played lego racer

hard briar
wanton dawn
finite imp
serene sage
#

Like this bad boy right here

hard briar
#

Get Joe Rogan to do the voice casting for death race NASCAR

finite imp
#

crash team racing

#

and diddy kong racing

frank basin
hard briar
#

Oh I Diddy that Kong

serene sage
#

NFS Heat is basically car with weapons thinly disguised lol

serene sage
wanton dawn
#

Mario kart 64 balloon war was the shit

hard briar
#

Mario Kart vs Bloons

serene sage
#

There's not a good racing out there cause I don't play any of them.

#

😤

finite imp
#

Forza is fun

hard briar
finite imp
#

They really bombed the hot wheels dlc tho

hard briar
#

Dude

#

I want

serene sage
#

Eggs

hard briar
#

BURN OUT REVENGE

frank basin
#

Burn out paradise

finite imp
#

You could just crash and die and get a DND

#

DNF

frank basin
finite imp
#

Lmao

serene sage
#

Remember MotorStorm?

#

That series was actually decent

#

Good music

atomic zephyr
#

when do we get a 40k cart racing game

finite imp
#

Remember midtown madness

#

Lmao

serene sage
#

But like, actually

atomic zephyr
#

wait, actually?

serene sage
#

Yeah

atomic zephyr
#

thats amazing

finite imp
atomic zephyr
#

whats it called

finite imp
#

Well it's more like twisted metal

#

I played the open beta

#

It was pretty fun

serene sage
#

Speed Freeks

finite imp
#

Yeah that one

frank basin
near sable
#

the maniac destroyinator

serene sage
#

Of course it's Ork which is both fitting but also slightly boring

near sable
#

10% elites, my behated

serene sage
#

Cause Ork is fun but just so 1 dimensional

frank basin
#

What it means 1 dimensional?

wanton dawn
#

Ork smash

serene sage
#

Like the gungho fun loving type

#

It's funny but like what else is there

#

No depth

#

Haha dakka funny

frank basin
#

Just casual fun?

serene sage
#

Yeah, I'm talking lore and design wise

#

It's really weird to make an ork "smart"

#

You can call them cunning sure

#

But smart is different

#

So the video has to kinda reflect that

#

It's just high speed brawl, nothing wrong, of course

wanton dawn
lavish dove
#

hallo what would you guys change on this? I'm guessing the 2 blessings to get's hot and maybe something else?

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serene sage
frank basin
#

ORK SMASH

lavish dove
#

or keep blaze away and change a perk

serene sage
#

Honestly kinda hard to change this one haha

#

I would change both perks

#

Just my opinion though

lavish dove
#

perks that bad ? D:

serene sage
#

Yeah...

lavish dove
#

damn thought they were kind alaright

gusty bison
#

Dont touch blessing

serene sage
#

You can look at the damage table, weakspot and crit are low

#

Basically the 10% is applied to the extra part

#

Not the whole damage

lavish dove
#

aaa

#

that makes sense

#

oof

#

thought it's just a straight up 10% dam multi on weakspot / crit

serene sage
#

Still, I would say that's a godroll

frank basin
#

God bless America

lavish dove
#

isn't gets hot kind necessary though?

serene sage
#

Yes and No? Volatile is fine

hard briar
serene sage
#

Gets Hot is cute but not needed

hard briar
#

But Plasma performs without it

lavish dove
#

you say volatile is fine but every youtube video i watched ppl say you should never charge the plasma gun

wanton dawn
#

Without get hot you cant really have crit

lavish dove
#

isn't it just a useless blessing that way?

serene sage
hard briar
lavish dove
#

oh

serene sage
#

It used to have weird behaviors, sometimes lowering the damage

wanton dawn
lavish dove
#

😮

serene sage
#

New patch has fixed that

lavish dove
#

oh cool

#

thanks a lot for the info! 🙂

frank basin
#

What did they fixed?

wanton dawn
#

Try a low charge vs high charge

serene sage
#

Also YTber exaggerates sometimes most of the times

hard briar
wanton dawn
#

You will feel the diff when unloading

frank basin
tiny summit
hard briar
#

The only necessary is good stats and good perks

gusty bison
#

Once again

#

Crits on plasma are whatever

hard briar
#

The blessings were cursed since release

lavish dove
serene sage
lavish dove
#

had no idea 😄

serene sage
#

Good luck out there

hard briar
#

Like if the Devs really wanted Plasma to have good blessings we'd have shit like Opening Salvo or No Respite

lavish dove
#

tyty

frank basin
#

When we have god godroll?

gusty bison
hard briar
serene sage
tiny summit
#

Like people focus on dmg, glory hunter though is still nice. There's always a ton of elites in aurics. Having each one be up to 25% instant toughness is good

hard briar
lavish dove
#

that's a big number 😄

hard briar
#

That's a primary fire one shot on mutant 🙂 you only need to stack like...8 buffs with executioner stance

spice wadi
#

you gotta prepare the thanos shot as a warning to the other muties

hard briar
#

Fortunately those buffs are literally like Press R and hit stuff, so it's possible to just do on accident, most ppl primary fire mutants down anyway

#

I prefer to charge shot them from down town since i don't run Exe, just VoC

sonic marlin
#

using plasma, what would yall recommend other than longshot?

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idle swallow
#

Improved ammo/medpack if you wanna be mr nice vet isn't too bad

terse idol
#

For the damage boost

#

5 stacks for both is meh

idle swallow
#

also that

terse idol
#

But 8 stacks on both is better

#

Or 8 stacks for redirect fire

sonic marlin
#

i got 2 points left

terse idol
#

Yeah

sonic marlin
#

so the last keystone and what

terse idol
#

Take the 8 stacks on focus target, take the medipack upgrade, and the grenade upgrade

sonic marlin
tall torrent
#

Demo team is good

#

Drop rending

tall torrent
sonic marlin
#

Not sure if I should invest in melee a little since I won't be using the plasma on common enemies

tall torrent
#

You could

lavish dove
#

btw what are the top perks for plasma? On a build I see it's uyielding and maniac, is that correct?

sonic marlin
#

this seems decent

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#

i love mods

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tall torrent
tall torrent
#

You have close order drill and iron will

sonic marlin
#

suppression is the slowdown thing u get when ur hit right?

tall torrent
#

No

sonic marlin
#

what then

tall torrent
#

Suppression is loss of accuracy for you

#

This does not matter for plasma

sonic marlin
#

when hit

tall torrent
#

No

#

You don’t need to be hit to be suppressed by enemies

astral ingot
#

when gunfire is happening at you even in cover

sonic marlin
#

ah

astral ingot
#

you know how suppressed you are by the fact that you can't fucking see

raw steppe
shadow aurora
raw steppe
#

short kings rise

shadow aurora
#

Not very high

#

Similar to my build actually

#

Should i put in a point for the toughness modifier for that keystone?

#

It never seemed that useful to me

wanton dawn
#

Pretty standard plasma build

shadow aurora
#

I wonder if theres anyone out there that doesnt use surv on plasma

#

Pretty much essential

raw steppe
#

up to you. it's a 1-point for another layer of toughness

#

become even more unkillable lol

shadow aurora
#

Ill consider it. I already have quite a bit of survivability but ive never taken my plasma build to auric so i may need it