veteran-class

[serene sage]

no meaning?

[finite imp]

It was assigned when I built it automatically

No meaning

It lets me identify machines on my local networj

[nimble sentinel]

post drip now

[finite imp]

That's all

Nah

I think I okay the average amount of games for a gamer my age

Play

[thick flint]

practically a teenager

[finite imp]

Damn grandpa how was the great depression

[thick flint]

im basically an infant

[finite imp]

I don't meet a lot of 30 year old gamers

Either they're 15 to like 20s

Or they're fucking 45 to 50

I am probably about to game alot less. As I have a serious job on the horizon

[thick flint]

30s are just too busy

[finite imp]

Yeah

[woven tide]

Have to fit your mid life crisis in somehow

[finite imp]

About to spend all of my life doing IT security for some federal entity

But it pays more than military

So that's cool w me

[thick flint]

cant wait to reach 30 and wish i was my current age

[finite imp]

My body feels like it's 54

But that's mostly the military getting their money's worth

[tacit cedar]

How important is Stopping Power on a Vraks Mk7 Headhunter Autogun

[frank ether]

yes

[soft blade]

[serene sage]

name your computer you hearthen

otherwise it would be really sad

[finite imp]

I used to do it

I had a laptop named Marty

I call my current PC Mathilda on the count of the fact it's got an i9 13900k in it

[serene sage]

make it official then

[frank ether]

do you also use it as a space heater

[serene sage]

40k2otk

[finite imp]

Yes

[serene sage]

aboslutely

i know mine does

[finite imp]

It is a fucking barbecue

[frank ether]

sounds about right with intel lmao

[finite imp]

When I first got it it took me forever to figure out why it was idling at 90 C

[serene sage]

AMD can run hot too tbf

[finite imp]

I was like what the everliving fuck

[serene sage]

basically big wattage = space heater

[frank ether]

AMD being hot is a lot different

[serene sage]

doesn't matter the brand

[frank ether]

it won't heat up your room the same way

[serene sage]

really?

[finite imp]

It got so hot so fast when I first installed it it's safety systems would cut on and make it look like it's boot looping

[tall torrent]

Trying to figure out what’s causing my GPU temp to get so high

[serene sage]

we have space heater connoisseur in chat

[serene sage]

what's your temp

[finite imp]

Yeah I might be able to help you tbh

[frank ether]

One runs a game at 80W the other does it at 300W+ it doesn't really matter what temps they are at

its the power draw that will get your room hot

[finite imp]

You have 2 gpus?

[serene sage]

I mean yeah but I was under the impression that all high end chips are power hogs

regardless of brand

[frank ether]

amd's best gaming cpus are inefficient at cooling

they are not power hogs

[tall torrent]

You’re not gonna believe it but yesterday when I tried testing
NIS (Nvidia control panel) 60% sharpen
DLSS Performance, low latency enabled + boost
Lowest graphics settings available with RT disabled
1477x831 resolution (enabled through NIS)

74~85 Celsius during nurgle tree event

I have an rtx3060 btw

[frank ether]

its just that they have metric tons of L3 cache sitting directly above the cores preventing the cores from getting adequate cooling

[tall torrent]

No reason for it to run that hot

On that low graphics setting

[serene sage]

that's... normal
reset the game

[frank ether]

intel CPUs dont have this weakness, but you know what they also don't have? fucktons of cache.

[serene sage]

sometimes it just runs like absolute dog for some reason

[finite imp]

My Intel CPU is strong af

[tall torrent]

No when I did the test like a week ago it was 74 at highest

[finite imp]

I love it

[serene sage]

my 6800XT can normally pull 100+fps
but once in a while, especially after a cold boot, it's like super hot pulling 60

[finite imp]

My GPU is practically just chilling under load

[tall torrent]

And I’m only using 60fps

It’s not like I’m running 120fps

[finite imp]

I run 144hz so I set all my limiters to 144

[frank ether]

I have the exact same gpu, which model have you got?

[nimble sentinel]

I'm rocking a Ryzen 5 7600X, if I am following this chat (which I am not doing a good job) I should have a little barbeque on my desk?

[serene sage]

I feel like we had this convo before haha, you play on 1080p right?

[frank ether]

You know whats funny is I have the hottest temps in ray tracing games like really heavy ones

yea

[serene sage]

it's the MSI Trio Gaming

[frank ether]

I have a red devil model one

[serene sage]

3 fans

[frank ether]

triple fan ftw

[nimble sentinel]

yeh guess my airflow is goated

[serene sage]

plus 2 noctua fans beneath

idle at 40

[frank ether]

oo you do one of those setups

smart

[serene sage]

normal load 60, heavy load 70

it's p good

[frank ether]

my case doesnt have the room for it but I instead have fans everywhere else

I even slapped a fan directly above the ram sticks

so it cools the ram

[serene sage]

nice

[junior needle]

Have you ever cleaned the dust out of your gpu

[frank ether]

Its a good kit of ram

but runs at 1.5v

[serene sage]

cleaning?

just kd i do clean

[frank ether]

I do it like every 2 years

[junior needle]

gamechanger for temps

[frank ether]

repasting every 5 years

the thing about repasting is

[frank ether]

if its running really cool the paste will probably be fine long term

[serene sage]

the biggest smol case

[finite imp]

this is what pendragon wanted posted

noctua fans are so ugly but got they're so good

[frank ether]

oo mini itx gamer

thats rly cool actually

[finite imp]

my tower is a mid

[serene sage]

it's a pain in the ass to build

[finite imp]

i actually shrunk down to get a stricter air profile

[serene sage]

I unironically love the color scheme though

[frank ether]

my case is an abomination I should take a pic of it sometime

[serene sage]

like I hate it

[finite imp]

thanks it fluctuates

[serene sage]

then I absolutely love it

[finite imp]

oh you mean nactua

noct

[serene sage]

would buy more once I grow an extra kidney

[finite imp]

whatever

[finite imp]

i think if you collect enough knives thawt happens

im up to 27 kidneys

[frank ether]

I would buy the noctua nvidia gpu if it wasnt for its price costing the entirety of my system

all that for a 3070

[finite imp]

i run a 3080 ti

[frank ether]

8 gb ass vram

[serene sage]

that thing is MASSIVE lmao

i ve seen it in person once

I bet it can cool passively

[frank ether]

Yea and I like it its a PROPER two fan coolerr

I mean in the end its a 3070

its not a very power hungry card

[finite imp]

https://webglsamples.org/aquarium/aquarium.html

go here

this will let you replicate the temps

DO NOT CLICK UNLESS YOURE READY TO PUT LOAD ON YOUR GPU

[serene sage]

"two" fans
each fan is twice the size of a normal GPU fan

and it's like full triple slots

or is it 3.5 slots

im not sure

[frank ether]

yeah thats how a two fan cooler should be imo

big ass fans for better noise and better cooling

most modern two fan coolers are made for budget gamers so they have tiny ass fans and thin layer of heatsinks

[serene sage]

guess what model this is

[finite imp]

https://www.userbenchmark.com/Software

[frank ether]

oh this is the

[finite imp]

you can also go here

[frank ether]

low end gigabyte cooler

I heard very bad rumors of these series

being crab in general

[serene sage]

linking that will get you banned in a lot of tech circles haha

[finite imp]

hy so

why

[frank ether]

3070

maybe 3080

[frank ether]

userbenchmark is actual intel shill website lmao

[strange grove]

daily reminder agri bruauto slaps all your lesser ranged weapons

[serene sage]

because the person who is behind the site is very biased, this is not a meme or a witch hunt
you are not allowed to link userbenchmarks on tech subreddit like PCMR, SFFPC, etc. because it is that misleading
you can do a quick google about their controversies

[frank ether]

hang on

let me look up some reviews from userbarkmench

[strange grove]

Is that the site that shits on AMD all the time?

[serene sage]

you wish, it's a ducking 3050 lmao

[finite imp]

just did

man do i hate man children

who gives a fuck about brand jesus christ

i want it to WORK

[frank ether]

lmao what

this website cracks me up

best reviews lmao

[junior needle]

The agri brauto can't possibly match by 465 maniac dps punisher

[finite imp]

Doing a cpu benchmark just cuz I'm curious now

Not on 3d mark or whatever

[serene sage]

Yep. Don't you love it hahaha. Idk what they are cooling but they are cooling something alright.

[finite imp]

Using CPU expert

[frank ether]

honestly 3050 in its entirety is a weird ass product

I guess it was ok back when you couldn't find anything else without selling your kidney

[finite imp]

Idk what 1330 H/s is

Herts?

[serene sage]

Uhh context?

[finite imp]

I'm running a cpu benchmark

[serene sage]

It's obvious hour per second haha

[finite imp]

Like idk how to read this

[junior needle]

where is this from?

[serene sage]

Post it? Tbf I also don't know how

The blind leading the blind

[frank ether]

susermerkbanch

userbarkmench

userbenchmark

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/SpeedTest/1817839/AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X3D-8-Core-Processor

there

[serene sage]

Paid shill detected

[finite imp]

vroom

https://tenor.com/view/fast-car-gif-10551544287208399705

[serene sage]

Yeah idk what those means either

[finite imp]

i got alot of points!!

yay

[frank ether]

I'm a paid shill neanderthal social media troll army member

wanna see my badge?

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-gordon-freeman-headcrab-headcrab-eater-half-life-meme-gif-25938577

[serene sage]

Is it bad that I love this card unironically?

Would absolutely get this for a vertical mount

[frank ether]

Oh I remember seeing this on GN review

I'd love to get one honestly but beggars cant be choosers

[serene sage]

It has perfume on it uwu

[frank ether]

I don't really care for the waifus but the card looks pretty

this would look cool in white case with a gpu riser

[hard briar]

If possible I'd avoid gigabyte in the future

[frank ether]

smh my card smells like burned electronics and accurate to its name it screams like a red devil too

[finite imp]

that is an ad

[hard briar]

Gigabyte has had some BIG issues with their cards breaking and they refuse to fix them for a fault they intentionally made.

[finite imp]

really strange

cuz i have a gigabyte card, it broke and they RMA'd it for free

playing this game

[frank ether]

I dont think gigabyte was ever known for high quality budget segment products

[finite imp]

and it hasn't broken since

[frank ether]

the only cool thing about gigabyte is their double bios mobos but uhh... just dont brick your bios lmao

[serene sage]

you won the GPU lottery haha
Gigabyte feels like the Razer of GPUs sometimes

[frank ether]

their higher end stuff is fine

[hard briar]

https://youtu.be/wb5tlHJHVBs?si=6_SCC7OTcsXq3ayg

[serene sage]

like sometimes you win the lottery

sometimes you don't

[finite imp]

i mean it wasn't hard

[frank ether]

friend owns a high end gigabyte 3080, he got it way before the shortages and its pretty solid

[hard briar]

Their higher end 30 series is the issue

[finite imp]

i just mounted my vertically

[frank ether]

its the budget segment products I would be vary of

[finite imp]

who tf still mounts GP

GPU's horzontally

they're HUGE

[serene sage]

everyone?

[hard briar]

Yea what monkey doesnt?

[serene sage]

the amount of cases that support vertical is probably single digit

[finite imp]

smh lmao tbhngl

[tall torrent]

I still don’t know how the game ran so hot on my system

[finite imp]

you only need one case

[hard briar]

Spending an extra 50 USD for a vertical mount and an adapter if your case doesn't support it
Or an extra 100 for a case that does

[finite imp]

one case and one case only

[serene sage]

is it still running hot?

[serene sage]

me spending too much on ITX tax 😔

im still running 2x HDD btw

cause no budget

[finite imp]

Does anyone here live in Texas? Have yall switched to bullets as currency yet?

[serene sage]

wisest PC builder

[hard briar]

Dude I want to ITX my PC so bad but the mobos are RIDICULOUSLY expensive for no reason

[serene sage]

what, don't wanna fork out $200 minimum for a decent board?

weak

[hard briar]

Less features and less materials used =3x price

[frank ether]

I remember the repair channel that made this claim and they also had a claim about amd gpu dies cracking which also made it into news for a while

[finite imp]

i just straight up removed my onboard gpu fans i dont need em

[serene sage]

weak, poor

[tall torrent]

I played one uprising hab dreyko to test and it was around 72 Celsius in the nurgle tree event (NIS + DLSS, 831p lowest settings)

[hard briar]

I am weak poor

[crude ermine]

Not fit even for a lil coin

[hard briar]

If I was strong rich I'd have my own PC Parts channel

[tall torrent]

But it was uprising difficulty so idk how it would run on higher difficulties

[finite imp]

my case doesnt use any internal cooling I just duct taped a box fan to the case

[hard briar]

Making PCs is cooler and fun

[frank ether]

Sometimes some dumb ass miner will dump a bunch of problem batch into market and repair shops freak out over it

[finite imp]

ez

[hard briar]

These were brand new GPUs

[frank ether]

which was the case with the ''cracking amd gpus''

[hard briar]

That gigabyte sent him my guy

[frank ether]

why would gigabyte send gpus to a repair technician

[serene sage]

I cry, if it's happening with other games as well then it's a GPU thing, if not then it's just Hab Dreyko being Hab Dreyko

[next spade]

should I do it or should I try it as a "normal sword"? normal sucks right?
have to live with unarmored then

[hard briar]

Jayz isnt a repair technician xD

[frank ether]

oh jayz

[tall torrent]

Most other games I play rn aren’t that hardware demanding

[frank ether]

Imma be honest

[crude ermine]

Just put it on

[finite imp]

the fact the problem isn't consistent makes me think it's the game

[crude ermine]

Normal sword sucks

[frank ether]

I dont watch that guy

I'd believe the rumor coming from anyone else though

just not that guy

[hard briar]

He reviews their products for an audience of millions and collaboration with Linus Tech tips, Gamer Nexus, and Dave.
So tens of Millions of people.

[frank ether]

he says the wildest dumbest shit

[crude ermine]

I thought you guys said jayeazy

[frank ether]

from time to time

[finite imp]

if there's one thing i think im learning from this discussion it's don't trust PC gamers

lol

[serene sage]

I mean 80 is still okay for GPU ngl
if performance isn't bad then i would say game on

[hard briar]

Gamer Nexus and Linus literally reported similar issues with 30 series from Gigabyte

[serene sage]

72 is normal I think, what's the utilization on the GPU? can you track that

what's the wattage as well

[finite imp]

control alt delete, go to performance tab

[tall torrent]

I think it’s the game too

I’ve tried:

• messing with game settings
• rolling back Nvidia game rdy drivers (tried 551.23, 546.65 and 546.33)
• literally uninstalling my GPU alongside all Nvidia services from system then reinstalling them from Nvidia website
• BIOS update
• various other system updates
• verifying Darktide file integrity on steam

[frank ether]

like all of their cards crack? that would destroy their rep lmao

[finite imp]

aye bro can you put some subway surfer with that post

[serene sage]

I mean in game log thing, pretty sure they have that built in now, wattage as well

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/save-me-subway-surfer-gif-8039370

[hard briar]

It's specifically the longer 3080s and 90s

[finite imp]

okay that's better

[frank ether]

Whats more likely is they probably have bad QA and refuse to own it

[serene sage]

72C isn't bad though, I wouldn't sweat it

[tall torrent]

Well I’m on a laptop so I’d really prefer if I could play the game without the need to worry if my laptop would crash & burn any minute

[serene sage]

haha get it, sweat?

[frank ether]

because if your entire high end gpu line-up is prone to cracking you'd lose money from that operation

[hard briar]

Other card makers reinforce the connection area (where the cracks appear) to support the weight.
Gigabyte doesn't

[serene sage]

anything sub 90 is ok in my book, unironically

[finite imp]

modern electronics have failsafes that prevent this

[hard briar]

Which is why they aren't RMAing any of the cards that do crack with this fault they let slip

Hello?

[frank ether]

Laptops tend to be built like garbage on the power side of things

[tall torrent]

I’d still prefer to put less strain on my GPU and I’ve never had overheat issues like this before

[frank basin]

FS QA has high end computer I believed.

[frank ether]

since its the OEM brand that designs the motherboard

[finite imp]

bro dont be a pussy just send it.

nothing bad will happen

probably

[frank basin]

Non of players having high end computer to play

[frank ether]

lmao

sounds about right

tbh

when you put it like that

I can see it happening

[hard briar]

Like you'll lose more money fixing shit you made cheaply and broke for free

[serene sage]

I think it's really okay, I was concerned that the performance you get was bad
heat issue shouldn't be a problem at 72C

[finite imp]

god damn electronics techs and their wanting to be paid

[frank ether]

72c is nothing to worry about

I recommend to

[serene sage]

72C is probably perfectly normal for laptop GPUs tbh

[finite imp]

considering my CPU used to idle at 90C lmfao

[frank ether]

check hotspot temperature

thats what matters

[tall torrent]

72c was the one game I tested most recently when I re-enabled NIS

But when I didn’t it went to 85 Celsius on 720p which is just crazy

[frank ether]

if there is a too large gap between core average and hotspot that means bad cooler mount or time for repaste

like for example when its 72c but hotspot is like 102 that would be sign of problem in future

[finite imp]

but yeah 72 is pretty standard for under load

[hard briar]

There's a gpu hitting steady 79 C Temps in some dust infested cyrpto farm still going strong and your worried about darktide

[finite imp]

at 100C your shit should be auto throttling

[frank ether]

I have one of those

ex-miner card

[serene sage]

hard to pintpoint with just a few data points here and there, if you are really worried, download hwinfo and track your wattage, utilizations, etc.

[frank ether]

6800xt

[hard briar]

I had several of those

[frank ether]

I have rigorously stress tested it for an entire week

memory

core

[hard briar]

Just not dust infested

[frank ether]

everything

and it passed everything with flying colours

[untold mulch]

My CPU was taht temperature as normal

Got better ventilantion months ago

[frank ether]

it was just really dirty in appearancec

so I had to do a good cleaning

[serene sage]

most shit nowadays throttle at 90C

[tall torrent]

I think the newest Nvidia driver is unoptimized for DT tho, my GPU utilization went up by around 20%

[serene sage]

which is.. good

[hard briar]

I just slapped a water cooled shit from deepcool and called that a day

[serene sage]

they have a new driver?

[sonic marlin]

Are shovels good or nah

[hard briar]

Gpu should be 100% imo

[tall torrent]

Newest is 551.23

[hard briar]

[frank ether]

I think dust is not a huge deal honestly

[hard briar]

Yes

[frank ether]

unless its in the heatsinks

and blocking airflow

[hard briar]

You haven't seen the dustballs some miners have

[sonic marlin]

which ones

[hard briar]

I was in a full-blown mining discord

[hard briar]

The shovels

[frank ether]

I mean I agree THAT much dust is an issue

[tall torrent]

Not in the mood for jokes rn sorry I rly wanna fix the issues I’m having

[frank ether]

I'm just saying a little coat of dust on PCB will not hurt the electronic

[hard briar]

Some of the shit these guys had and complaining about heat issues

[sonic marlin]

all of them?

[frank ether]

like most ppl think if its a little dusty it will kill it or cause issues

which is absolutely not the case

[timid otter]

The amount of fcking talents vet has is ridiclous.

[finite imp]

yes

[hard briar]

That's not a joke. If your gpu isn't at 100%, it means you aren't using the full power of the card. It could do.more.

[frank ether]

Its not entirely a bad thing either

[finite imp]

brother i would not be comfortable with my GPU at 100%

[hard briar]

Why?

[frank ether]

like its good to have more gpu room

[finite imp]

because that's like driving your car in 1st gear

[frank ether]

gpus have better input lag characteristics when not under full load and the feel of your input matters more than your fps sometimes

[finite imp]

you deff want some slack

[hard briar]

I'll be concerned when my RAM and CPU go up in utilization

[serene sage]

Why would you care if you cool it properly lol

[finite imp]

you are risking a self shut down if you arent throttling correctly

[sonic marlin]

If I wanted to melee most of the time and use my weapon as a sort of boss killer or for elites, what would be the strongest choice, plasma, revolver or a shotgun?

[finite imp]

yall really dont see the problem with sitting at 100%??

[tall torrent]

Plasma

[finite imp]

you're wearing your shit down

[hard briar]

If something is making my AMD 7 5800x3D and 64gbs of Ram slow down, I'll be concerned

[serene sage]

No because mine sits at a chilly 75C

[finite imp]

i didnt say slown down

[hard briar]

Yes. In 10 years I'll have to replace it

[serene sage]

Why would it ever shut down?

[hard briar]

[frank ether]

what things like nvidia low latency or amd anti-lag does for example is reserve a little bit of your gpu power to make sure its not running at %100 which causes input lag to skyrocket. You can have a similar effect yourself by capping your fps a little below what your gpu can handle.

[hard briar]

This man does not understand that GPUs were designed with the ability to run 24/7...

[sonic marlin]

hey this didn't turn out that bad

[hard briar]

Shit the whole computer was

[sonic marlin]

im guessing gets hot goes up to 4?

[frank ether]

For example if your gpu can give a consistent 160 fps, capping it at 150 would give you better more consistent (and potentially lower) input lag.

[frank basin]

Is gaming laptop last like 5 year?

[tall torrent]

Basically godroll
Infested -> carapace
Gets hot to IV

[hard briar]

Laptops are abused during creation tbh

That's the simple way to put it

[serene sage]

The more apt comparison would be like "I'm afraid of turning the faucet on all the way cause that would break the pipe."

[sonic marlin]

shouldn't i keep it at 3 and change the other perk too? Or is that one preffered?

[finite imp]

Yall are why technicians like me have job security. I swear to god lol

[tall torrent]

Elite is good

[frank basin]

My laptop like almost 5 year old since 2019

[hard briar]

Does it still keep up?

[frank basin]

Only graphic crash when idling, has to play something not make it crash but not all time

[serene sage]

Well then don't complain lol

[finite imp]

im not complaining. That was advice

[frank ether]

If you're in IT your job security comes from people who can't change their own wi-fi password lmao

[finite imp]

I'm not

[serene sage]

I'm not sure if it's valid but ok

[frank basin]

I just replaced the fan got broken for $80 on laptop

[hard briar]

Your a technician and don't know that the whole PC is designed to run 24/7 for years?

Laptop gaming

[frank ether]

sheesh thats an expensive fan

wtf

[finite imp]

just forget it

[serene sage]

Servers need to be turned off every 5 mins UwU which is why FS games run like shit

[frank ether]

does it include the service for getting it replaced?

[hard briar]

Like I hate to tell this to you, oh wise professional,
There's servers still going strong from 2000s with shit old gear

[frank ether]

or did they sell you the fan for 80

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/dude-of-course-dwayne-johnson-seven-bucks-the-rock-definitely-gif-20129872

[frank basin]

Idk the fan still produce but my laptop model made in 2019

[frank ether]

did you had to do it all yourself

[finite imp]

If you're going to sit there and patronize me you can fuck off.

how about that

[serene sage]

Would someone buy me a MacBook?

I wouldn't want to buy one with my own money

[hard briar]

The 8ram version?

[serene sage]

But can someone spare some change?

[finite imp]

what do you want with a macbook?

[serene sage]

I just need a glorified Chromebook so I can sit in Starbucks on Saturday mornings without looking like a dork

[strange grove]

whats a punisher?

[frank ether]

I'd be a lot more into laptops if I could do maintenance to them or swap parts as I please

but a lot of them have proprietary bs

[hard briar]

No dude pull out this bad boy
https://youtu.be/L8XOqrKBM5w?si=LgQpl59CjqTWWJrd

[junior needle]

Who's steve jobs?

[frank ether]

or parts that you can not even find a few years down the line

[serene sage]

You can, just swap the whole thing

[frank ether]

thats the intent of sellers tbh

[serene sage]

That's how you get bullied UwU

[strange grove]

oh lol

[sonic marlin]

i basically see everyone use Maniacs and Unyielding or Carapace, wouldn't it be a better choice to keep gets hot at 3 and change perks?

[frank ether]

throw it down in a landfill as e-waste and buy a new one

and the same billionaires go around talking about caring for enviroment lmao

[serene sage]

Can I just say

The RX580 was a beast of a card

[sonic marlin]

what to do with it, help

[hard briar]

I get this so much

[junior needle]

Just a flattering term I like to use for things that are absolute shit at what they do

[frank ether]

funnily enough it was a failure for amd because everyone bought the GTX 1060 instead

and the 2060

[serene sage]

Swap infested damage for maniac and uhh that's it?

[frank ether]

RX 480 also had a bad pr campaign

[hard briar]

I should save up money and try to make my own "portable" laptop

[frank ether]

and bad drivers at the time aswell

[frank basin]

Amazon return items

[sonic marlin]

why would i keep elites dmg, why not change it to carapace/unyielding

[serene sage]

580 lives slightly longer bc higher VRAM

[frank ether]

I think its kinda funny that amd's cpu marketing is really professional and their gpu team are absolute clowns in marketing

[serene sage]

Like i used mine for 6.5 years then give it to my friend who is using it still

[hard briar]

Because you'll do.more damage to all elites overall with the base stats and get change 1 blessing to something else like gets hot 4, volatile (if that's what ur into) Blaze Away. Etc.

[hard briar]

I had a 6600xt.
I hated AMD's drivers

[serene sage]

You can. I'm just going for the minimalist approach by changing as little as possible. It's a plasma. You are already overkilling.

[finite imp]

the interface is really trash

[serene sage]

But yes, you can swap elite for Unyielding/Cara

[finite imp]

its so confusing

[serene sage]

Or glory for gets hot

[hard briar]

It also would artifice on you and make you revert to a previous driver

[serene sage]

Driver or the software

[finite imp]

Literally had this exact same thing happen to wifey

recently too

[serene sage]

Because idc what you say Nvidia Experience is dogshit

[hard briar]

I've never had this issue switching to Nvidia

But intel can kiss my ass with their cpu prices

[finite imp]

nope. not once. Gefore experience is nice

[serene sage]

And Adrenaline runs circles around that piece of shit software

[tall torrent]

Elite gives u both gunner 1 HS kill and shotgunner bodyshot 1 tap

[hard briar]

Why am I paying extra for an inferior cpu, Intel?

[sonic marlin]

maniacs/flak/carapace/unyielding which would be the smartest choice

[serene sage]

I guess we can agree to disagree

[tall torrent]

Keep elite, second option use carapace or unyielding

[serene sage]

I would say if you really want to change, grab gets hot instead

[sonic marlin]

?

[hard briar]

I like Maniac or do gets hot crit kill the mutant with 1 shot

[frank basin]

Advice what cpu brand in future when I request manufacturer assemble my pre built custom pc?

[hard briar]

Blessings

[sonic marlin]

no shit

wdym grab and change lol, im not dissolving this

[hard briar]

Yet your the one posting ?

[finite imp]

IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH ME IM GOING TO EAT ALL THE SOUR CREAM OUT OF YOUR FRIDGE

[serene sage]

The one that is good at the moment.

[atomic zephyr]

i really do need to switch my GPU
im using an RX 590 and for some goddamn reason when I play armored core 6 half of the bars on the UI don’t drop (health and stamina) because of the drivers

[frank basin]

Wydm

[atomic zephyr]

it is incredibly annoying and makes stuff like pvp much more difficult

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/little-babys-ice-cream-promoting-gif-12957290

[hard briar]

I mean what do you want it for?

[serene sage]

Because like most things, there's competition. Right now AMD can be easy to recommend but people will laugh at your face 10 years ago.

Also Intel GPU are a little meme now but that can change drastically.

[frank basin]

Looking performance but I hoping hardware lasting

[serene sage]

Basically we don't know. Read reviews, do your basic research.

[hard briar]

Performance in what tasks?

[finite imp]

im pretty sure they make intel CPU

CPU's out of the graphite on the top of Chernobyl NPP

[frank basin]

No clue, for gaming im sure

[hard briar]

You gonna be doing video/photo edits, 3D renders, computational tasks? Or just gaming and stuff like that?

[tall torrent]

I don’t think you can 1 shot mutant with plasma, period

[serene sage]

Just gaming it's really between does Ray Tracing matter to you.

Yes then NVIDIA.
No then AMD.

[hard briar]

Then anything Intel I5 and lower will do it or AMD 5series (pray the nomenclature doesn't change)

[finite imp]

intel

nvidia for gpu

[serene sage]

Oh CPU

I'm fuckin stupid

[frank basin]

@hard briar im hoping AmD hardware lasting longer

[hard briar]

If your gonna do computational actual computer shit, high end
AMD is King atm

[sonic marlin]

does plasma shoot through walls or some stuff? I remember seeing people kill snipers crouching behind those plates on railings

[finite imp]

yes

some

[tall torrent]

It can shoot through thin walls

[finite imp]

i found it can pen school bus armor IRL

[serene sage]

Yes. Some wall. Charged shots pierce walls better than uncharged

[hard briar]

Then buy from a reputable brand.
Nvidia and AMD/intel make the card designs. Companies like Gigabyte, Asus, etc make the Cards themselves from those designs

[finite imp]

Asus is good

[sonic marlin]

smh idk which perk to choose

[finite imp]

my mobo is an Asus ROG

its pretty

[serene sage]

Make sure you buy the correct platform as well.
If you want future proof then don't go AM4

[frank basin]

Card? Graphic card?

[finite imp]

make sure to install ubuntu

[frank basin]

I’m too confusion

[finite imp]

Yes. 2 companies go into making GPU'

Nvidia and AMD are the actual manufacturers of the chips

[serene sage]

Then don't. Seriously. It's already a good plasma. Bring it for a run. See what trouble you, then adjust

[hard briar]

For Nvidia , you cannot go wrong buying a gpu from ASUS
For AMD ,Sapphire is kinda uncontested the best

[frank basin]

So CPU nothing worry about wear and tear down?

[finite imp]

everything in your PC will wear and tear but they ARE designed to last for years and years

even at 100% load like Queen said

[frank basin]

I kinda like Toyota pc

[sonic marlin]

i think ill take unyielding since carapace is only gonna be good against Crushers and Maulers, others have unyielding parts along with carapace armor

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-enojado-molesto-newspaper-gif-15571434

you lost me

[frank basin]

You known Toyota known as lasting car

[finite imp]

OH

[frank basin]

Good durability

[finite imp]

I drive a nissan

😄

[serene sage]

It's technology lmao

[frank basin]

I don’t like bad durability pc

I’m poor to afford it

[finite imp]

what kinda GPU's you guys got in your cars

[sonic marlin]

here's that paperweight

[serene sage]

Durability matters more on how you use it

Performance is how much you pay

You can absolutely have a high performance high durability PC

[frank basin]

Yeah I use my laptop like used to be 16/7

[serene sage]

It's just how you take care of it

[hard briar]

Have their been any nerfs to plasma since the finesse buffs.

[terse idol]

No

[frank basin]

I don’t have the dusting fan or air compressor

[tall torrent]

Elite + carapace
Gloryhunter IV + Gets Hot IV

It’s a literal godroll idk what you’re hesitating for

[hard briar]

Then it still 1 shots mutant on crit with Maniac

[serene sage]

Dust/clean your shit, repaste once in a few years (kinda like oil change, kinda)

[terse idol]

Its infact stronger, because a bug got fixed

[frank basin]

I use ears wax to clean in

[finite imp]

pain

[terse idol]

I gotta say the funny thing but

[finite imp]

i hate putting new paste

[terse idol]

Actually no yeah you're right maniac is okay

[marble pewter]

Yo, how my fellow shoot gun/swing shovel veteran mains doing?

[hard briar]

Same

[serene sage]

That's fine, I use a moist rag lol

[tall torrent]

I don’t think it can? You can check though

[hard briar]

I dont need to check if there hasn't been any chances

Changes

[finite imp]

are you a Pea sized dot type a mf

[terse idol]

I just have to send my puter' into the shop

[hard briar]

My plasma has 80/80 on stopping and damage

[terse idol]

To get it cleaned and repastwd

[hard briar]

XD

[frank basin]

Im depress and I didn’t use my laptop much these day but I know my laptop is dying.

[serene sage]

I bought the whole tube I'm gonna use the whole tube

Fuck you

[hard briar]

Nah I use a spoon and spread it evenly

[tall torrent]

So does mine and it doesn’t one shot mutants on crit

[finite imp]

rub it in the socket make sure it really gets in there

[hard briar]

Do you have maniac?

[terse idol]

MF using it like icing

[tall torrent]

No, but it’s like 1400 per shot or smth

[sonic marlin]

I'm taking unyielding cuz only Crushers are full carapace, otherwise all except Maulers have unyielding parts on their bodies

[finite imp]

"Kevin did you use thermal paste as icing on this cake?"

[hard briar]

2nd question, are you headshotting on a. Charged shot

[sonic marlin]

not sure if i got gets hot 4

[tall torrent]

Oh you mean charged shot

[hard briar]

https://youtu.be/bApd0QFsErU?si=tKh1Hku0pOf_SWn8

[serene sage]

Hmm honestly reinstalling window helps if you know how. Like legit you won't know what kinda shit you have running in the background

[tall torrent]

Are you misunderstanding unyielding or smth?

[hard briar]

Me looking at that "maulers have unyielding"

[sonic marlin]

wrote that wrong

[hard briar]

Okay makes sense

You are forgiven

[frank basin]

Does it effect storage drive like I don’t wanna try factory reset wipe whole files.

[tall torrent]

Unyielding only includes the following enemies:

Bulwark
Reaper
Beast of Nurgle
Plague Ogryn
Chaos Spawn
Daemonhost

[serene sage]

Uhh yes, if you have files then nvm

[hard briar]

You know numbers guy

I have Blazing as well as Getshot 4 and Maniac

[serene sage]

Of course you can back them up to another driver but idk your situation, or if you know how

[hard briar]

So it might be the Blazing stacks

[finite imp]

Make sure you do a golden install of windows

[hard briar]

Letting me one shot

[tall torrent]

Could be

[finite imp]

Don't use windows recovery

[tall torrent]

I never rly use charged shots and on reg shots it’s typically 3

[sonic marlin]

i meant most enemies that have carapace armor also have parts of unyielding on their bodies too

[serene sage]

They don't?

[tall torrent]

Uh, no?

[frank basin]

Because I have shit like tf2 custom model placed inside my computer and I don’t wanna reinstall those many model and texture materials

[sonic marlin]

according to this

[serene sage]

BoN has Carapace?

[tall torrent]

You take unyielding mainly for boss dmg and bulwark & reaper

You take carapace to kill crushers and maulers a bit better

Carapace gives u 3 tap crusher

[finite imp]

Unyielding with high bleed on knives is such a meme

[sonic marlin]

k ill take carapace

[tall torrent]

However I should also mention if you have a melee that kills unyielding exceptionally well

[finite imp]

Goofy damage

[tall torrent]

You don’t need unyielding on ur plasma

[frank basin]

Do damage perk apply DoT?

[serene sage]

There is such a thing?

[tall torrent]

Yes

[frank basin]

Kewl

[sonic marlin]

I wanted to use melee more often and keep the plasma for like elites etc

[tall torrent]

At least chainaxe does a ton of dmg to bosses iirc

[finite imp]

Hey y'all

[tall torrent]

Knife too

[finite imp]

I know I don't make a lot of recommendations for melee weapons

And I should do it more

[tall torrent]

Also I recently realized

Bloodletter IV on CS4 is

Pretty valid

[finite imp]

BUT HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE KNIFE MOTHERFUCKER

[serene sage]

That Batman is Bruce Wayne?

[finite imp]

GOD DAMN I LOVE THE KNIFE HOLY FUCK

[sonic marlin]

Are there some talent nodes that benefit the plasma?

[finite imp]

RUN FAST KILL FAST 💪

IF THE KNIFE WAS COCAINE ID SNORT THAT TOO

[umbral scaffold]

im kind of lacking in power for vet what are some recs for the class

[tall torrent]

Bloodletter on CS4 is a ton of extra dmg for breakpoints

[woven tide]

Combat blade gaming

[serene sage]

Long shot is good value imo

[finite imp]

If anyone tells you to use power sword and plasma they're trolling you

[frank basin]

Wait does lower processor make game run badly?

[serene sage]

Other than that not really, just take the standard stuff

[finite imp]

Don't listen to them

[tall torrent]

Longshot is good but you can usually reach the same breakpoints with redirect fire (same result but more value)

[finite imp]

Heres what you're gonna do

You're gonna head over to the armory and get a knife with mobility as the dump stat

[tall torrent]

+15% elite dmg on left tree and +25% reserve ammo are pretty good for plasma

[finite imp]

Then you're going to get a zarona revolver

[serene sage]

Generally sure. A 1999 Camry would never beat a Bugatti in a drag race.

[tall torrent]

Also take +30% weakpoint dmg not because it’s great for plasma (it’s a relatively small boost), it’s because the other two literally do not function for plasma

[finite imp]

And put some hand cannon and crucian roulette on it

For the knife you just need uncanny strike ok?

Then

Spec into the right branch to always prepared at the very bottom

Then you get off your PC get up

And go outside

[tall torrent]

Precog, executor and riposte all good as second blessing for knife if u don’t wanna go bleed

[finite imp]

Touch grass for the last time

Buy a mountain of Columbian snow

[frank basin]

Okay then i guess higher then

[finite imp]

Then you walk back in, queue for quick play, and then snort cocaine

You are officially knifemaxxing

[serene sage]

Were you referencing the i5 or AMD5 series?

[finite imp]

Does ALL of that make perfect sense

[frank basin]

yes and lower

I have ryzen 7 on my laptop

[finite imp]

If you don't use knife I'm going to film a video of myself self wearing Oakley's in a Ford f150 where I complain about the woke mob

[umbral scaffold]

what are some key abilites that i need for a strong vet? cause i feel like im specking wrong

[sonic marlin]

rate my plasma

[serene sage]

So it's complicated and too long to go into details but what's the name of your CPU? Like the full model

And your GPU too

[sonic marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/noisy-cricket-will-smith-men-in-black-gif-9424978

[finite imp]

Killing them softly/10

[serene sage]

Where would your vet put the other hand

[umbral scaffold]

wait how are yall mamking weapons

[sonic marlin]

mods

[finite imp]

Oh lord

Welcome brother

[frank basin]

I’ll have to boot it up. Is Omen brand so idk where to show the spec

[umbral scaffold]

oh lol

[finite imp]

There is a lot for you to see

[serene sage]

How to use that plasma

[finite imp]

I am so hype for stalker 2

[serene sage]

I think Task Manager shows it

Like the ctrl alt del thing

[finite imp]

Omen makes a pretty oc

Pc

[hard briar]

Worse compared to a higher end cpu yes
Worse enough that your gonna actually notice it if you don't have the other things to showcase this higher performance.
Not a chance

[serene sage]

It's HP so I automatically deduct 20 points

[frank basin]

Well does sticker work?

[finite imp]

The CPU generally doesn't weigh much against your gpu

[serene sage]

Uhh not much lol

[finite imp]

That laptops hull is very clean. Did you buy that recently

[frank basin]

I’ll have to boot it up then

[finite imp]

Looks like you have a ryzen 7 CPU and some sort of Nvidia gpu

Best of both worlds tbh

[hard briar]

Unironically the goated tag team

[frank basin]

@serene sage

[hard briar]

Team Red CPU team Green gpu

[finite imp]

How much did you pay for that laptop

[golden nacelle]

I currently rock Agri brauto, but this looks like a pretty damn decent Graia from Melk. How does a Graia stack up?

[finite imp]

And when was it bought

[hard briar]

It's a 1660 ti

[serene sage]

It's older sure but I think it will run 1080 low-medium just fine still

[finite imp]

Damn son

[frank basin]

2019

[finite imp]

That's an new design on an old card

Sick

Lol

[hard briar]

Yea

[finite imp]

1660 it isn't bad but it isn't uh

[serene sage]

It's a good old card

[finite imp]

Cutting edge

Yeah

[serene sage]

Put it that way

[hard briar]

Does it support dlss or rtx?

[frank basin]

actual is run on AMD

[serene sage]

Is still plenty usable

[finite imp]

I still have a buddy who runs a 1080 ti

[finite imp]

That's cuz you're not under load

[frank basin]

huh?

[finite imp]

That's your integrated graphics

[hard briar]

It's running on amd graphics

Dude that's sick actually

[finite imp]

Wait

Wat

[hard briar]

So it's an AMD 7 G SERIES

[frank basin]

yeah

[hard briar]

With integrated graphics

[frank basin]

i guess

[serene sage]

4000 series

[finite imp]

Can this thing hot swap between integrated and GPu

[hard briar]

SO IS THE FUCKING GPU DEAD?! XD

[frank basin]

idk what integrated graphic

[finite imp]

The fact your gpu is 0 percent is concerning

[hard briar]

If the gpu is alive, yes

[strange grove]

so many leavers in auric, it didn't used to be like this

[finite imp]

Like doesn't the gpu need to render the desktop and such

[hard briar]

Integrated graphics is when the CPU handles the graphics (onscreen)

[strange grove]

im literally the only one left on this mission from lobby screen

[frank basin]

i think it can swap two graphic model

between amd and nvidia

[finite imp]

Yes

Correct

[frank basin]

but i use amd a lot

[serene sage]

Run a game and check

Easy pz

[finite imp]

When you launch a game what happens

[serene sage]

Run anything

[frank basin]

booting darktide?

[finite imp]

Sure

[serene sage]

Sure

[finite imp]

That will work

Soccer manager 2013 please

[serene sage]

It's not dead lol, why would it register on Task Manager if it's dead

[hard briar]

Yea it's intended actually

Amd G series cpus with Nvidia will use the Integrated graphics to save on power

And then use the gpu for.more intensive tasks

[finite imp]

That's a pretty cool design

[golden nacelle]

Anybody got opinions on how Graia brauto stacks up compared to agri?

[finite imp]

I wonder if my Intel can do that

[serene sage]

Mofo running dual GPU config, better than you peasants with a single GPU

[hard briar]

Big Brain af

[serene sage]

Shit

[finite imp]

I mean

[hard briar]

Dude in hoping Intel gpus get better

[frank basin]

is Omen brand and is fucking HP

[serene sage]

Arc is pretty cheap

[finite imp]

Intel
Gpu
Pick one

[hard briar]

Please don't give up Intel. We need you to rock the boat more

[finite imp]

Lmao

[serene sage]

I would be an Arc for a side PC

[finite imp]

What do you think Nvidia assassins look like?

[serene sage]

For shit and gigs

[finite imp]

Green?

[hard briar]

I believe in Intel Battle Mage

[serene sage]

Now, Nvidia needs to make CPU

[finite imp]

Amd assassins are red

[frank basin]

looks like nvida does spiking

[serene sage]

So we have full blue, red, and green builds

[serene sage]

You're fine lol

[finite imp]

That's normal for boot up

[hard briar]

So it alternates like I said and is working as intended. Dope.

[finite imp]

It should spike a little while it loads your shader cache

[golden nacelle]

Is this worth picking up from Melk, is what im asking.

I have 8 minutes to decide

[finite imp]

DASSA GOOD DAKKA M8

BUY

[hard briar]

https://youtu.be/ZIqfpbm4oz4?si=XrDXWYPH0o7lwgQn

I always cheer for the underdog

[hollow ibex]

Eh no

[frank ether]

do you mean drivers itself or control panel

[hard briar]

The drivers themselves

They would cause artificing and make you revert to an older driver

Till amd fixed their new drivers

[golden nacelle]

Stick with this guy?

[frank ether]

thats bizarre but I also had one or two problem drivers

[finite imp]

Bury the light is such a banger

[frank ether]

so I'll believe it

[hard briar]

It's genuinely amd being spaghetti coders

[frank ether]

I follow my habits from my days using nvidia and it seems to work out well for me

[hard briar]

amd gpu hardware=Goated
Amd gpu software=Malware

[frank ether]

I rarely update drivers

[hollow ibex]

Yeah I mean with milk it's only worth buying stuff for tier four blessings or if there's a really good roll of a gun you want to try

[golden nacelle]

I've had good success with the Agri Brauto, but never tried Graia

[frank ether]

to me its pointless risk if your system already performs fine

[hollow ibex]

I prefer Agri braced tbh

[frank ether]

didn't have any issues in the past like 6 or so drivers though

[finite imp]

TRY IT

[frank ether]

before those there was one which caused issues

[hard briar]

Nvidia let's me know ym drivers need updating by crashing a game that hasn't ever crashed before

Then I check the drivers and its so far has always had a driver update specifically for that game

[frank ether]

I don't really have these sorts of problems

but I also dont buy the latest games

[hard briar]

Nvidia: Boy did I just catch you having fun?!

[frank ether]

if you're having frequent crashes probably something wrong on your end though

[finite imp]

We here at Nvidia will go in and retroactively break everything instead of sending a notification that you asked for to your desktop

[frank ether]

maybe a bad overclock causing corruption

very common way to break gpu drivers

[hard briar]

No overclocks

[frank ether]

xmp is also an overclock

[hard briar]

And it genuinely only occurs on driver updates

[frank ether]

What I can see is if the game updates require a new driver which happens from time to time for certain games

[hard briar]

New game+ driver update has always caused crashes.

Darktide being the exception

[frank ether]

Yea Idk

I mean I believe you

but I used both brands and never had that sort of behavior

maybe its down to games I play

[finite imp]

Update your driver's while your gpu us under load like a chad

[frank ether]

I update like every 6 months or more

AMD supposed to have new feature launch soon

framegen stuff

and I know good enough to stay away from release drivers for that feature lmao

[frank basin]

How you update what?

Software of graphic drive?

[frank ether]

yes

no reason to update every month

[frank basin]

Like manually?

I see

[frank ether]

I delete the old one first

using DDU

[frank basin]

I means does update software graphic card do anything?

[frank ether]

game compatibility

[frank basin]

Damn

[frank ether]

mainly

and new features if there are any

[frank basin]

Idk how to do that

[frank ether]

whats your gpu

[frank basin]

^

[frank ether]

you go to nvidia page and download the latest for your gpu model

[frank basin]

Hmmmm I se

Do just nvidia

I have dual graphic card

[frank ether]

your radeon is integrated it doesn't matter

[frank basin]

Okay I see

Do I have to nvidia website specifically?

Or I type search browser?

[frank ether]

https://www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx

https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/218114/en-us/

this is the latest driver available to your gpu

it came out one week ago

[frank basin]

oh, thanks

[frank ether]

make note of your current driver so if you have any issues you can return back to it.

[frank basin]

how?

[frank ether]

NVIDIA Control Panel menu, select Help > System Information

then write down the version

[frank basin]

it is oudated?

[frank ether]

its probably fine

[frank basin]

huh

@frank ether is lauching game from geforce experience different than on steam platform?

[north hornet]

My 3080 TI driver is now 551.23, release date 1.24.2024.

[finite imp]

Aw snap I might need to updoor

Update

[frank ether]

Idk

I didn't use geforce experience

when I had nvidia

[frank basin]

Akay

[frank ether]

just launch from steam

[tardy veldt]

Hi good day,
Just want to ask what are the best perks to equip/roll on a Plasma Gun
Thank you very much 🙂

[raw steppe]

Stats are more important than perks/blessings

But people generally use unyield/maniac/elites and gethot/blaze/volatile/glory in order of what I think is good

[tardy veldt]

Thank you very much will look out for these, just rolled a few decent gray ones to test it out 😀
Hoping Hadron will be good this time

[junior needle]

Gets hot and either blaze away or less used is glory

I can't see a reason to use volatile given how good gets hot is and the current state of charged attacks (basically never used, just light attack)

[hard briar]

Glory is just confirmed kill at home

[terse idol]

Hmm

Nope

[hard briar]

Yup

Always has been

[terse idol]

I mean, it compliments it, and for no talent point

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-bozo-packwatch-seinfeld-jerry-seinfeld-gif-24023504

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-kitty-yeet-funny-gif-21938191

[hard briar]

Exactly why it's useless. Why waste a perfectly good Blaze Away 3 slot when a talent point will give me the same thing?

And it's not even out of the way(anymore, before they had confirmed kill in the most intrusive spot possible

[terse idol]

Hmm, because the BP's aren't crazy if you don't have blaze away 😌

[frank ether]

It looks a lot better post CK nerf

[terse idol]

and jsut gives you some survivability

[hard briar]

Survivability?

My brother in christ I have a toughness bar over my toughness bar that is back off cdr when my toughness bar runs out

Who is hurting you?

[terse idol]

yeah

double survivability

With CK and Glory

😌

And toughness share

[hard briar]

Toughness SHARE?!

[terse idol]

What else are you gonna use all that extra toughness WITH glory hunter with

[hard briar]

You mean to tell me your out here SUPPORTING?!

[terse idol]

It compliments VOC well as well

I know

I'M A SHAM!

[hard briar]

Smudgels I think your swell and all but.

Don't speak to me on this channel anymore. I can't be associated with support builds

https://tenor.com/view/crying-fun-gif-20101378

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-its-just-the-way-it-is-im-just-the-messenger-gif-25567865

❤️ jk

But no I don't play Veteran to "Support" My team

Voice of command shield is specifically for me

My contribution to the team are the dead and those who are going to die

[near wyvern]

Take all 3 of the "buff on ability use" thingies, pop a concentration stim and become god

Simple as

[hard briar]

If Fatshark gave me the option to enhance my shield for myself and make it so teammates CANNOT get it

I would

No hesitation

[finite imp]

How do you feel about crack head knife builds

[crude ermine]

If my teammates can't cover their ass well that's a damn shame isn't it

[hard briar]

I dont respect them

[finite imp]

That's okay. We don't exactly expect respect.

But you need us

[ebon umbra]

if u think about it dmg spec is support bcuz u r supporting ur enemies from being killed by elites

[finite imp]

We're not the hero you think you deserve.

We're the hero you need

https://tenor.com/view/batman-gif-4439279616571508647

[near wyvern]

That's a stretch

[hard briar]

I didn't queue into 40k space super fascism to see people with knives and little smgs they call guns.
I want Big tech and Sci fi weapons. Give me the Plasma give me the chain flail

[finite imp]

Shut up nerd, take this sharpened tooth pick and these drugs and follow me into the edge of tomorrow.

[hard briar]

Where are my goddamn Lightning Claws

[finite imp]

IF THEY ADDED POWER CLAWS

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-want-to-play-with-you-anymore-toy-story-i-dont-wanna-play-with-you-anymore-dont-wanna-play-no-more-play-gif-26906930

Me at knives

IF YOU THINK KNIFE IS CRACKHEAD WEAPON POWER CLAWS IS THAT TIMES 100

[hard briar]

And before someone says the dumb line
"GAURDSMEN DONT GET LIGH_"
SLAP WE HAVE A ROGUE TRADER ON PAYROLL

[finite imp]

Last I checked guardsmen don't really even get bolters

Those are usually reserved for marines

[hard briar]

Sgts

Get bolters

[finite imp]

Few and far between

[hard briar]

As a matter of fact usually a more elite guardsmen unit get better gear

[finite imp]

An I wish irl military was like

That

Congrats on your promotion your new side arm is a .45 sig

Sweet thanks chief

[hard briar]

Join the American Special Forces. They usually give you budget for gear like that, so I've heard.

[finite imp]

Also here's an ACE and an FN FAL

[finite imp]

I cannot.

The reason I dont do narcotics anymore is due to injuries

My entire left leg is fucked

Ankle hip and knee

Sorry I meant