veteran-class

[low kelp]

yea I want something for emergency horde/ambush control

Less for anti-armor

[fierce arch]

hey, anyone out here who wants to run a quick mission with me, just so I can get the 90% accuacy penance?

[pallid dew]

Get toughness regeneration

[low kelp]

Although is axe with brutal momentum really good for that?

[pallid dew]

Shovel Knight

[tall torrent]

Yea

[low kelp]

Hrm, guess I'll go for that next then

[sonic marlin]

also im still not sure if i should run 3x toughness or 2x toughness 1x hp curios

[fierce arch]

hey, anyone out here who wants to run a quick mission with me, just so I can get the 90% accuacy penance?

[tiny summit]

I prefer 3x toughness or 2x toughness and 1x Stam. I don't think HP curios scale enough for Vets and Psykers

[tall torrent]

1 health
1 toughness
1 stamina
That’s what I run

[sonic marlin]

stam is max at 3 right

why is it just +3 stamina like what does that mean

shouldn't it be %

[tall torrent]

It means 3 extra stamina bars

[sonic marlin]

oh

[atomic zephyr]

i like running 2tough 1hp but stamina is also useful

[zealous wyvern]

i have nice news for you perhaps

[crude ermine]

I only run extra stam with psyker or on a Deadshot build

Other than that it's all 3 toughness

[zealous wyvern]

here is the coat being worn ingame

[serene bough]

I always run extra stam

[zealous wyvern]

no clipping

the collar is down

only in the lobby, the collar is apparently up?

[serene bough]

1 hp 1 thp 1 stam

[atomic zephyr]

just had the most heartbreaking loss right at the end of archivum sycorax

the two psykers went down to gunners that had clustered behind before the drop so we couldnt get back up to them
other vet and i made it about halfway up before finally getting chewed up by the bruisers

[tall torrent]

It depends on the character’s posture

[tiny summit]

I think the shoulders could be slimmed down a lil

[zealous wyvern]

yeah it does depend on the posture

but at least with gear that doesnt have a big jawline

like the intended one

[terse idol]

Urghh, I hate the fricken

Maaask

[atomic zephyr]

also, finally got dumdum 4 on laspistol

[zealous wyvern]

only looking absolutely straight down into the collar makes it clip

maybe

[crude ermine]

Nice one

Dumdum

[zealous wyvern]

i am currently watching the mask and it hasnt clipped yet

not once

also yeah the mask is kind of weird. i prefer zealots model by far

[terse idol]

Actually if what you're saying is true, I could probably use the moebian 21st mask

Cause I was scared it was clipping

[zealous wyvern]

you can probably use anything that doesnt go lower than cheekbone

and even if it does

[terse idol]

Hmmm

[zealous wyvern]

as long as its not big like a helmet

it wont clip id expect

[tall torrent]

Tubes clip through collar

[zealous wyvern]

unless they are in that one posture

[tall torrent]

Every headpiece clips in some way

[zealous wyvern]

but ingame it doesnt happen and in lobby, i have yet to see it happen

oh definitely

the straps on it also clip with the neck flesh

[tall torrent]

In missions it’s because veteran has a tactical leaning stance

[zealous wyvern]

lol

[tall torrent]

Front leaning

[zealous wyvern]

my point is, its not really bothering me

[tall torrent]

So the collars are lower

[zealous wyvern]

clipping like that is pretty hard to avoid honestly

the clipping that bothers me is stuff where it should just be hidden

like the strap going through the neck

thats dumb

thats bad clipping

[gilded wraith]

Worth grabbing?

[tiny summit]

8 stacks are nice but also not as nice as the other 2. It's kind of a "pick if you want nothing else with 1 point"

[zealous wyvern]

a big collar will clip with some things unless they give it proper physics

im all for it but i think id be happy with a game that just fixes the clipping thats bad

stuff like big things not working together just kinda makes sense sometimes

[tall torrent]

Or just change the model and have that side of collar be much lower

[zealous wyvern]

i do hope they fix it up as much as possible though

[tall torrent]

Like almost flat

[zealous wyvern]

you mean like adjust the collar depending on piece worn?

like elden ring if you played that

that would be good yeah

2 types of collar standing and flat

[tall torrent]

No just move the collar to a flatter position

[zealous wyvern]

depending on how the helmet goes with it

[tall torrent]

All the time

[zealous wyvern]

yeah

oh

[tall torrent]

Then nothing clips

[zealous wyvern]

why all the time tho

why not leave it like this for the pieces that dont clip

[tall torrent]

Physics is better tho I agree

[zealous wyvern]

it looks unique this way

[tall torrent]

But idk if they’ll change it

[zealous wyvern]

i think the tall colour is good as long as it only clips in that one specific look

[tall torrent]

By adding physics

[zealous wyvern]

i doubt they will but would be cool

[tall torrent]

If they do physics and have helmets flatten it, and it moves with your character’s head & neck movements, would be much better

[zealous wyvern]

that would be optimal yeah

but if they dont do that, i think the best way to do it is to make 2 models. one for helmets that clip a lot with the collar standing and one for those who dont

because no not all helmets clip with it unless you are in a very rare specific pose

and i dont care if it clips in that one pose that you only have in lobby

and it would be much easier than giving it physics

[tall torrent]

I just need it to not clip with Krieg helm, scion helm, steel legion helm and Moebian 21st rebreather

[frank ether]

it looks ok in game

[zealous wyvern]

yeah you definitely need it flat then

[frank ether]

funny thing is

shoulderpads are

absolutely horrible in preview

but looks kinda fine in game

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/huang4evr-heartsdale-bubblyjae-kid-nodding-insane-gif-25575557

[frank ether]

the biggest clip issue happens with

the neck part

of it

try it with the pearl clutcher gasmask you'll see what I mean

[tall torrent]

The tubes just go straight through the collars

Happens for scion helm as well

[frank ether]

shouldn't be this hard to fix these issues

[crude ermine]

Insane in the membrane

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[frank ether]

at worst you could design an alternate pattern of it where the collar is folded

and apply that to worst offenders, or offer it along the bundle

[vernal harbor]

INSANE IN THE BRAIN‼️

[trim steppe]

Does anyone else have 5 characters? Which class did you double up on?

[fierce arch]

hey, anyone out here who wants to run a quick mission with me, just so I can get the 90% accuacy penance?

[trim steppe]

You can try asking in the lfg channels as well, sometimes people will join ya there https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042832970211397735

[muted prairie]

one angry cadian, one tomboy loose cannon

(it was back when i was farming milkman's shop for good power swords)

if i had to guess, i think most people with 5 characters doubled up on vet to try to fish for power cycler 4

[junior needle]

You can do it easy on the twins mission by shooting into the shields

[late hatch]

i have 7 chars. vet is the only one i didnt double up on lol

[trim steppe]

ah runnin the mod? Hows that work out btw, like if the mod is disabled does it just not show your 6th and 7th characters until you load it again?

[late hatch]

and its the more chars and loadout mod. coz fuck only having 5 loadouts

[trim steppe]

I doubled up on ogryns so I could braindead farm an extra set of contracts on auric each week for more melk bucks

[late hatch]

i guess so but i never played it without mods

[zealous wyvern]

5 veterans

[trim steppe]

I just constantly forget to reload mods after hotfixes, then have to close and reload. I was wondering what happens to your characters in such a scenario

[zealous wyvern]

4 more on alts

[late hatch]

i did ogryn first as my 5th. then used mod to make a zealot to test out the new player experience and at what level i could hold my own in damnation.

[muted prairie]

based beyond belief

[zealous wyvern]

6 deleted veterans

[muted prairie]

cadia stands

[zealous wyvern]

had the wrong names so i got rid of em

cadia stands

[placid portal]

Ogryn 1st character

[zealous wyvern]

[late hatch]

i havent tested it sorry

[neat stratus]

Psyker first character (I named him chad thundercaulk)

https://tenor.com/view/chad-face-chad-shaking-head-no-boeshi-gif-27600815

[late hatch]

all of my chars have "real" names not memes

Morti the ogryn.
Serena the psyker.
Niko the vet.
Sari the zealot

[neat stratus]

Crinnnnge

[vernal harbor]

at least its not dickot

[trim steppe]

People saying cringe is the only real cringe

[vernal harbor]

russo's named after billy russo from punisher so

[late hatch]

anyone with a mental age above 13 would think the same about "chad thundercaulk"

[vernal harbor]

27 and name goes hard, even if used often

[terse idol]

Real chad hours

[neat stratus]

Same ngl

[trim steppe]

I might get the extra characters mod and level up another psyker so I can farm the last T4 blessings I'm missing from melk. Probably faster than blowing up 75k plasteel looking for them lol

[frank ether]

wdym dickot is based

bonus points if you also act like a bot

[late hatch]

is that the MCs name?

[neat stratus]

anyways I fucken hate this game, peace

[late hatch]

👋

most sane darktide enjoyer

[vernal harbor]

we feel the same

[vernal harbor]

hes a villain and the main one of the netflix series

https://tenor.com/view/billy-russo-grenade-gif-13450161

its a very significant piece of information if a vet has the field improvisation talent and it needs to be displayed in the lobby, i always mention it but i feel like its important enough that i shouldnt have to

[late hatch]

ah i tend to avoid netflix and low tier hollywood stuff in general. Way to cliche and predictable for me to enjoy unless i turn my brain off completely.

[vernal harbor]

zealot chat lad

[stoic jetty]

shit, my bad

[vernal harbor]

they can help you

its oki

[vernal harbor]

very true but the punisher i can tell you is very much not a netflix regular, for what my word is worth

[jaunty fiber]

Hey is this saveable?

[vernal harbor]

and im a marine and its not cringe at all if that means anything for the military aspect

[crude ermine]

Absolutely

[vernal harbor]

id say so

[crude ermine]

Wait am I mixing my weapons up or is that the one you put unarmored on it

Over crit thingy

[late hatch]

i might check it out sometime. just trash like the marvel movies and that kinda stuff is just not my cuppa tea. its like junk food cinema

[crude ermine]

But I do know you put brutal momentum over shred

[jaunty fiber]

Yah this is the unarmored one

[vernal harbor]

someone call the rashad goons

[crude ermine]

Honestly idk how I keep mixing that up

[jaunty fiber]

I have one I'm using but this base is so much better I'd like to save it

[vernal harbor]

but to expand on this its hard to type as everything is falling apart, that if the guy just puts the ammo crate down i can clear the board and reset the situation

most i get out is "throwasdfha the crateee"

and theyll sometimes fr look at my ammo and see its full, and think "nah hes bullshitting me"

like cmon

[crude ermine]

Some high value talents should definitely be labeled in the lobby or shown

[vernal harbor]

on BLITZ

6 SHREDDERS

[jaunty fiber]

That's kind of hard to plan for

[vernal harbor]

sometimes more since it could be twin

[jaunty fiber]

Like they'd have to just put everything out there

[vernal harbor]

yes but on the same note, maelstrom bros will see the team wipe before they deploy jack shit

"might need it"

[jaunty fiber]

because the players are the ones that dictate what is or isn't high-value in a build

[vernal harbor]

mf we need it NOW👇

[crude ermine]

Hmmm

[jaunty fiber]

Frankly this is just a case for a full inspect feature

There's no way to compartmentalize talents in a way that's relevant to everyone

[vernal harbor]

Yeah but thats asking too much and i dont expect or demand that from anyone

FS should do this one

[crude ermine]

Maybe have it be an inspect and make some of the talents a difference in colour and those show up

Like uh

[jaunty fiber]

No, actually, askinf for talents in the lobby is asking for too much. lol

[vernal harbor]

or a simple icon alongside our stuff

[jaunty fiber]

this is not nearly as granular or subjective

You just get to see it all

[vernal harbor]

im not asking to see talents but just a symbol or icon alongside our loadout or character in lobby that highlights key talent picks

[jaunty fiber]

No I know but that's still hard to fit into this UI without it being a mess or any other things

Besides, you know full well you can just glance at the pathing and mostly know what's being taken, you've been playing long enough for that

[vernal harbor]

idk nuthin bout ogryn

[jaunty fiber]

all I'm saying is the problem you want solved here is better served with an inspect tree system

[vernal harbor]

could show me a tree and id say looks good to me

[jaunty fiber]

Well ok I get your point but you presume this talent you're talking about being visible is actually gonna change anyone's tactics in the heat of it. That's a lot of hopium on that one thing

But still, I totally see your point

Now, about this axe...

[tiny summit]

"Ammhi cater pkfhse"

[crude ermine]

Mmedikavte

[tiny summit]

Maybe a symbol that indicates a the crate in the UI is an upgraded one?

[vernal harbor]

please is heresy and below im not asking im telling you that if that crate doesnt smack that floor then its joever

[tiny summit]

During the finale people won't just drop crates

Gotta love it

[vernal harbor]

which i never get

theyll do it in the strike craft tho

[trim steppe]

Best is wiping on the finale with 2 medcrates in downed teammates inventories

[tiny summit]

If I see 1 teammate in orange and another 1 or 2 in yellow I'll drop ammo before finale. I tend to hold off on medkits when the medicae is like a room away but if it's a horde moment and everyone is lowish I may just drop it

[vernal harbor]

this was in relation to two people having two ammo crates and both going down with them so i let one die so i could grab it since he wasnt listening to me so we could keep going

[tiny summit]

Woo 200 views on my helbore run.

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-lets-goo-lest-gooooooooooooooooo-gif-19416648

[crude ermine]

Awesome

now run faster

[tiny summit]

0.0

[trim steppe]

just killed 5 daemonhosts and 2 other monsters on this HIST run. wish we got extra emp gifts or something

[finite imp]

No. Too bad. You'll get pubbies that pick up grims and kill the entire team and you'll be happy

[tiny summit]

Best can offer is silent poxburster

[shut vector]

one point short :(

[tiny summit]

Trash. Guess you gotta scrap it. Sorry.

Not even dump stat mobility? Or max dmg? Cringe.

[mystic owl]

Honestly I'd just uninstall the game and hire a solicitor

[soft blade]

sell all your possessions and become a feral woodsman

it’s the only way you could ever hope to escape such humiliation

[trim steppe]

Just rolled this from grey, what do y'all think?

[shut vector]

very nice

[raw steppe]

Good roll!

Congrats

[twilit glacier]

Get flakiac and crucian roulette. Or grab carapace if you play melee vet and have rampage on your melee weapon for insane crit headshots on crushers

[junior needle]

crucian roulette
It's the old revolver, you want surgical

[distant peak]

que?

[twilit glacier]

Not with melee vet reloading 1 bullet on kill

[distant peak]

how should i fix this

[junior needle]

Huh?

[twilit glacier]

Melee, swap, melee, swap

Bottom right tree

Never have to reload

[junior needle]

You're assuming that someone is taking WS

In which case you don't even really need crucian either

If you aren't taking WS then you do undoubtedly want surgical

[distant peak]

perks?

[junior needle]

Typically flak/maniac

replace sprint and terrifying

You don't want either of them so they're safe replacements no matter what

[distant peak]

terrifying is now surgical

flak as the perk?

or do i do carapacer

it's teh aiming rev

[twilit glacier]

I said if

surgical isn't really that useful since you shouldn't be aiming for that long

[distant peak]

chat do i do flak as the second perk

[twilit glacier]

unless your psyker/zealot

[distant peak]

already did it

also better than the previous blessing tbh

[twilit glacier]

definatly better yeah

it all depends on your build and weapon

[distant peak]

what has carapace?

[twilit glacier]

crushers, karnak twins head and mauler heads

bulwark shoulders iirc

[distant peak]

flak, then?

[twilit glacier]

you could if you need the extra damage to one shot

if you don't in your regular you can get something else

[distant peak]

i'll just do flak idk man

[twilit glacier]

post build and weapon actually

[distant peak]

lol

[twilit glacier]

well if you don't know go nuts

grab flak

you can't really go wrong with it

its too wide a net

[distant peak]

also what melee to pair?

[twilit glacier]

depends on your build

[distant peak]

i see

[twilit glacier]

sry for boring answers

[distant peak]

left tree

i do left treeee lol

[junior needle]

If you're recommending crucian only if you're taking WS then you were very unclear there. People don't only take revolver with WS, although it is popular choice.

[twilit glacier]

crowd control weapon

[twilit glacier]

true, english second language

[distant peak]

power sword?

[twilit glacier]

sure

i don't like it but it is extremely effective

[finite imp]

Pick up dc

Parry a nuke

[fathom grail]

Why parry a nuke when you can eat it

[finite imp]

Parry the guy who ate the nuke

The parry is so damn good I wish the DC did just a tiny bit more damage

In regular swings

I might even give up the knife for it

[keen wolf]

Fashion, yo.

[finite imp]

Y e L l o w

[keen wolf]

Colonel Mustard

[vale ledge]

Got this shotgun. . .should I keep or toss since I legit have no idea if this is good or not-

I uhhh dont use shotguns at all thought Id try something new-

[keen wolf]

Ah, shame it's an Agripinaa with those brawly blessings

Could have been real nice on the Kantrael or Lawbringer

It's not a terrible roll. I'd swap out both perks for 25% flak and maniac. You could leave unarmoured at 20% though and replace elites damage for flak. Then you could replace hit and run with something else.

Full Bore or No Respite are decent picks

I think full bore works with your slug shot, but can someone confirm that?

[sharp ember]

yea fullbore works with slugs, great for beefing up followup shots

[placid portal]

Fullbore + no respitr

Knock down Ogryn enemies in 1 headshot and spam

[keen wolf]

Ima be honest though

Shotguns aren't in the best spot rn

Except for the Kickback, but that doesn't exactly count

[cedar pecan]

Is there any notable breakpoint when you have 80% damage on this or should I not bother with new rolls

[nimble sentinel]

the God Emperor himself would use this lasgun

that is S tier good job

[cedar pecan]

I mean I know the perks and blessings are I was just wondering if missing 4 damage has any affect on shots to kill in any circumstance

[nimble sentinel]

that's only 4 damage you are gucci

tbh I'm certain thinking you can do better than this is slightly heretical

[cedar pecan]

[cedar pecan]

"good job", as if it wasn't purely RNG

[nimble sentinel]

mans won the lottery and asking if he needs 50 more cents for a snickers

[cedar pecan]

true, true

[gusty bison]

Flak is pointless on agri shotty as a note

And Maniac depends heavily on build

Cos i think agri shotty can hit rager BP without it

[gusty bison]

Swap hit n run or deathspitter for full bore

Thats about it

Its less of a shotgun more of a bolt action rifle

[gusty bison]

I think with rld speed talents iz faster to go for slug no. 2

Should 2 shot reapers

[keen wolf]

Ah, I thought it gave you 2 shot BPs on scab gunners with the basic shot. My bad

[gusty bison]

It does but like

Just slug them

1 shot kill at all ranges

[keen wolf]

You can't slug everything on aurics

[gusty bison]

I mean...

You can

[keen wolf]

Reload speed has its limitations

[gusty bison]

Rld speed talents go brrrr

[umbral garnet]

Imagine playing with reload speed talents

[gusty bison]

It ends up shooting about as fast as surgical guns

[umbral garnet]

Just pump and dump and run away

Ezpz

[gusty bison]

Which is fast enough

I thimk u can get it down to about 0.4-0.6s reloas

[keen wolf]

My advice for taking flak was assuming Slab would be using both fire modes.

[gusty bison]

The agri primary fire is kinda ass for stuff other than shooters tbh

[keen wolf]

With flak, you can 1 shot scab shooters with the primary

[gusty bison]

You dont need flak to do that

[keen wolf]

Without you need 2

[gusty bison]

Base agri comfy 1 taps flak shooters

[keen wolf]

Only on headshot

[gusty bison]

Wellnyes

[keen wolf]

Flak gives you body confirms

[gusty bison]

At point blank

[keen wolf]

But you know the weapon better than me. I probably need to try using pure slugs in a mission

Although at that point, surely it's just a worse plasma

[gusty bison]

Its unreliable to rely on bodyshots for shotguns on scab shooters cos they tend to take cover

[keen wolf]

True

[gusty bison]

Comparing anything to plasma for ease of use is an exercise in futility

Plasma is braindead easy

[umbral garnet]

Quick question

[gusty bison]

And revolver is downright broken

[umbral garnet]

Ideal perks on Helbore 2

[gusty bison]

X is worse than plasma/revolver atm is a silly argument cos by that logic all guns except those two are worthless

[gusty bison]

Unarmoured/Elite + Maniac

[umbral garnet]

Ok cool, nice

[gusty bison]

Whether u take Unarm or elite depends heavily on ur build

And whether it can 1 tap dreg gunners consistently with just +10% elite

Or if it needs the full 25%

[umbral garnet]

Should test that out in the Psyk

[gusty bison]

Yarp

Its a pretty important bp

[umbral garnet]

Either way

I will be charging in and bashing skulls with my shovel

I love one shotting Crushers

🤤

[gusty bison]

Bayo stab go brr

Ngl the helbore bayo is nuts

[umbral garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/bayonet-warhammer40k-death-korps-of-krieg-equip-bayonet-i-make-ready-gif-26550076

[umbral garnet]

It is

Actually decent melee

[gusty bison]

Fun fact

Did u know it procs agile engagement?

[umbral garnet]

Yeah

Using it

Lmfao

SLASH BANG SLASH BANG

[gusty bison]

Lel

[umbral garnet]

Using the Full Auto mod turns a Helbore 2 with Onslaught 4 into a Lasgun Mk12

[gusty bison]

Try Mg1a

Mg12 shoots way slower

[umbral garnet]

I'm using the 1a

Haven;t used the 12 in a while actually

Speaking of my 1a

[gusty bison]

12 is actually bad atm

[umbral garnet]

Byeah

Ia my beloved

Ok just dropped into Psyk I can easily one shot headshot Dreg Gunners

That's with 25 unarmoured

[keen wolf]

Friend of mine tried bayonet only run for memes and noemw manages to perform better than with ranged fire.

[umbral garnet]

Bayo is digustingly good

[keen wolf]

Just runs into a pack of ragers and stabs them all in the face.

Stunlock city

[gusty bison]

Bayo is an S tier melee weapon

High stagger

High damage

[keen wolf]

Unironically

[gusty bison]

High attack speed

[keen wolf]

Makes ogryn cleaver look like a shaving razor

[umbral garnet]

Does the attack speed benefit from Trench Fighter

[gaunt hinge]

Why'd they make it deal a morbillion damage

[umbral garnet]

Because ALL HAIL THE DEATH KORPS OF KRIEG

CHAAAAAAAARGE

[gusty bison]

Yes

[umbral garnet]

Hell yeah, nice, cus the build I use it on has trench fighter so I wouldn't know the difference

Ok can't hit the 1 hit BP on Dreg Gunners with +Elite

Unarmoured it is

[gusty bison]

Woop

[umbral garnet]

Shovel gaming

[strange grove]

safe to go shredder nades if all you have is psword and brauto?

for crusher ram ranches the kraks do wonders

my psword has sunder, maybe ill give it a go

[white minnow]

yeah that's what i run and it's pretty comfy (albeit with brumo psword since I can rely on shredder frag nades for rager jumpscares)

the danger scenario is a bulwark pack though

[strange grove]

thats when I pray to the emperor a teammate can get behind them

[white minnow]

TRUE

[dire olive]

TBF a brauto can stagger lock them open the moment they open up

[white minnow]

I usually try to stagger with brauto and finish off either with the gun or psword

though it's annoying when there are >3 and they cover each other and god i hate bulwarks

[dire olive]

Or just toss 2 shredders

[white minnow]

true, they usually do just get knocked down

i'm unnecessarily stingy with nades just so that i can farm damage with them on a gunner patrol or something

[untold mulch]

In my new shovel build

I am hating them so much

Even when flanked, they have so much HP

Need 2-3 full thrust shovel hits to get them, compared to my chainsword almost one shotting with a heavy rev

[placid portal]

Bulwarks need some fixin

Their shield hitbox is absurd

shoot side
blue hit marker

https://tenor.com/view/jet-bean-killer-bean-ragdoll-ragdoll-fall-gif-23762382

[untold mulch]

They annoy me to no end

[white minnow]

it's quite egregious when they're not yet aggro'd and it looks like their guard is down but then dink

[untold mulch]

and if you are knee deep in poxwalkers they are a bitch to fight because you really have no time to deal with them

[twilit glacier]

Just wait for them to drop it

[umbral scaffold]

Gm fellow vets

[twilit glacier]

Gm

[untold mulch]

Easier said than done when every special unit under the sun is gunning for your ass

Which is basically a slow stroll in Atoma

Damn double trapper with flamer and netcode issue?

must be tuesday

[twilit glacier]

They aren't that threatening tbh, their active window of attack is miniscule

[untold mulch]

By lonesome?

no

But they are basically threat multiplier

[white minnow]

they're just a massive threat multiplier and very annoying in an unfun way to deal with

[twilit glacier]

Mhm

[nimble sentinel]

"And if that don't work, use more gun"

-engineer tf2

[untold mulch]

Also that

dealing with them

is just unfun

it breaks the entire flow of combat

[white minnow]

bulwarks are rarely a game ender but boy are they fucking annoying

[twilit glacier]

I just pistol whip them and they spin around sometimes

[untold mulch]

[twilit glacier]

It's funni

[untold mulch]

Hellgun when fatshark

They pierce ceramite

[merry gale]

need that variant for the tan paint alone

[hybrid prawn]

5$

[hushed sparrow]

The plasma gun gets longer when you change the camo... Was there a different variant planned?

I wouldn't mind getting the Elysian variant. Maybe the difference will be that you Can't charge it but you can use an integrated scope!

Wait a minute, The plasma going in game does nothing when you press the special ability right?

[strange grove]

lol love doing the most melee damange, but the least ranged damage as vet, PS6 my beloved

[white minnow]

the plasmagun special is manual vent

[hushed sparrow]

I thought that was holding reload? (Nevermind that's Pysker)

[white minnow]

players who main psyker and plasmagun vet in shambles

muscle memory eroded to dust

[rough palm]

What should I change bros

[light ore]

i'd switch carapace to crit chance

[hushed sparrow]

Nothing, you're perfect the way you are ✊😤

[muted knot]

You what

[muted knot]

Carapace to flak

[rough palm]

Blessings okay tho?

[light ore]

Blessings are great. Maniac is great. Only choice is whether to be cringe and change carapace to flak or be cool and change it to crit

[strange grove]

see a problem here? god quickplay in this game is so broken and bugged

[gaunt hinge]

i cant see anything

whys your UI like that

[white minnow]

i think it's an OOB spawn?

it looks like that starting elevator area in refinery delta but also not

[strange grove]

yea I spawned at the beginning of that mission, but the rest of the team had already taken the elevator up

[keen wolf]

Yeah, there's the issue

Hardware issue

[untold mulch]

does someoen run decimator with mk3 shovel?

and tell if it helps noticiably with horde clear?

love almost one shotting crushers

but the horde clear loss is being nonviable because the average idiot in qp

[stone folio]

why does this keep happening on my zealot and not my veteran

[merry oak]

I do it works wonders after the first couple of kills

But on the downside the Bayonet on my Helbore is my main melee weapon

So I don't use shovel as much anymore

[untold mulch]

Just want to make sure is worth the investment

[merry oak]

Bayonet really slaps

[untold mulch]

because the massive bootleg toaster doesn't gives me the fucking blessing

[merry oak]

Lol

Should praise the omnissiah more

[untold mulch]

I praise the Omnissiah

She is an agent of chaos

The face of evil

[strange grove]

just took on 4 crushers with just a powersword, and that is why I prefer sunder over brutal momentum

[thorn lark]

Sunder is good

Anyone using marksman focus with a revolver here?

[lyric dock]

Times I wish you can transfer weapons shared by classes between each other

[fathom grail]

I wish you can post pictures during gameplay

Or spray

Actually nvm you sick-o’s would post/spray nothing but anime thighs

[untold mulch]

Completion % of matches goes down

[stone folio]

if i wanna use braced auto guns on my vet, and i wanna take a keystone, would going down the right tree be a good option?

[strange grove]

Middle and right

[untold mulch]

Is an option yeah

you get more fire rate for that brauto, and a buff to melee

[strange grove]

I’d take tagging keystone tho, not specialist

[untold mulch]

mhmm

tagging is very good

[strange grove]

If you go middle and right, with just one tough curio you can get 200+

Toughness

With Iron Will talent you are a god

[tiny summit]

Femboy skitariis

[shut vector]

just took on 4 crushers with a krak grenade, and that's why i prefer krak grenades

[thorn lark]

Just one shot 4 crushers with my ogryn shovel, that's why I prefer shovels

[late hatch]

i drop shredder then shout at the crushers

then run past my team mates and leave the crushers to them

[late hatch]

doesnt it take too long to stack?

[muted knot]

Based

[untold mulch]

2s per stack

if you kill whatever you tag you always have guaranteed at least 2 stacks

[late hatch]

yeah which means unless its far away you cant really let it stack up right?

[untold mulch]

which good pace, can get you a steady refill of Tough and Stam

I personally have never purposelly stack unless against bosses

[strange grove]

LOL yea if they are sharing the same pixel

[shut vector]

all the crushers want in on my pixel

(i actually just had a zealot chorus them all into a corner, it was funny)

[pale spear]

talk to me Vets, what do i do with this gun?

[shut vector]

swap reload for flak, congrats on the near godroll

[pale spear]

should i swap maniacs for the level 4 version of that one?

[shut vector]

you can but tbh i'd almost just not worry about it

5% wont do very much in terms of break points and having the extra modification might come in useful if they change the crafting system

[pale spear]

fair

[merry oak]

the average vet

ngl

pinups are still a thing even in the 40th millennium

[tiny summit]

You get plenty of stacks. The main value is taking the 2 side nodes that give toughness, stamina and dmg. If you max tag an enemy, you get the max stack dmg buff to the team. As long as you kill another tagged enemy before the max stack buff ends, even with only 1-2 stacks, you refresh the entire max stack buff

[late hatch]

hmm i might give it a go sometime, it didnt read very well on paper for me

[tiny summit]

The extra dmg debuff on an enemy is nice when it happens at max stacks but yea the real value is just making enemies into piñatas of free toughness, stamina and dmg

[untold mulch]

Depends on regiment strictness

I see a Valkyrie having a SoB pinup

[atomic zephyr]

kill heretics

[visual remnant]

Dont u need heretics w autogunz

They have dismal maniac dmg

[pale spear]

then what should i get?

[visual remnant]

it honestly looks fine on its own

swap reload w flak i guess

a bummer on the stab

but it's fine

[merry oak]

You could say that

[untold mulch]

Good to know is canon

[wet elk]

what should i change here?

[merry oak]

Yea I figure they draw the line when It comes to risque art since depending on who it is it could be blasphemy

[untold mulch]

Fair enough

[merry oak]

Ship my ass to Ultramar and start a farm

[trim steppe]

I'd change Shattering Impact to either Gloryhunter or Blaze Away

[finite imp]

Weapons

[late hatch]

everybody wants to experience that sweet OP weapon whatever it is atm

[wanton dawn]

Why the fuck is it ALWAYS a BoN when you are down ppl ? Always

[untold mulch]

OH BOI

[idle swallow]

salvageable?

[merry oak]

Yea

I'd use it if I wasint married to my helbore

[midnight totem]

Blessings work

Perks change to flak, maniac, elite, or carapace

[merry oak]

Ye

It's solid after that

[agile yew]

Is this worth picking?

[celest vine]

Bricked already

[agile yew]

Ok easy skip then

[lime gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-of-cadia-cadia-battlefleet-gothic-gif-25242351

[agile forge]

Bad blessing, worse perk

[soft blade]

giga bricked

[hollow ibex]

blue weapons from the armory are almost always pre-bricked

[crude fiber]

not the hardest mission modifiers but still a no damage taken

[left zephyr]

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[umbral scaffold]

No

Best to run 3 stamina curios and regen

Ontop of stamina based perks

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[umbral scaffold]

Not much so really

I tried it

It’s just for me not the build I want

As crits are easier to obtain other means

It’s just there for the auto gun users

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[umbral scaffold]

Oh pfff I run all three toughness

17 percent

[hollow ibex]

i tried the 3 stam curios + deadshot

meme build tbh

[umbral scaffold]

I mean again it’s only good on auto weapons

[hollow ibex]

deadshot?

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[umbral scaffold]

Yeah

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[hollow ibex]

it's more for low rpm weapons

unless you're doing 3 stam curio memes

[umbral scaffold]

No it’s not

They do too much damage already

[hollow ibex]

not really

[umbral scaffold]

Marksman weapons do a lot of damage already

[hollow ibex]

some really benefit from increased consistency

[umbral scaffold]

It’s only good for auto weapons

[umbral scaffold]

Which ones

[hollow ibex]

i run it on agri and bolter

[umbral scaffold]

Auto weapon

[hollow ibex]

agri shotgun

[umbral scaffold]

And Powe weapon

[hollow ibex]

and slower rpm weapons also means you don't need to gimp yourself by running 3 stam curios lmao

since your stam usage is going to actually be reasonable

[umbral scaffold]

It’s still good to run three stamina

Having it for blocking

Pushing

[hollow ibex]

3 stam curios is just totally unecessary

[umbral scaffold]

Vet has the worst stamina based out of all classes

[hollow ibex]

for normal gameplay

[umbral scaffold]

It’s not

Again it depends on person to person

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[umbral scaffold]

But it’s best over extra downs

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[hollow ibex]

agree to disagree, not going to waste my time over this

[umbral scaffold]

Ok

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[umbral scaffold]

It wasn’t heated

You good

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[zealous wyvern]

yesterday, i had 2 team mates die

my krieg was then left with the chemdog veteran as a 2man team

sandwiched between a gunner patrol and a shooter horde

with hordes and specials inbetween

ive never had that much fun in dt before

[serene bough]

3 Stam isn't necessary imo

[zealous wyvern]

i can now say with 100% that veteran is my favourite class by far and i wish i got more 4-vet teams

it feels like an actual firefight

[serene bough]

Better to just take block/sprint efficiency curios if you want more Stam related stuff

[umbral scaffold]

Again it’s not but for dead shot it’s def needed

[hollow ibex]

no, you need 9 stam

[umbral scaffold]

That’s perks ontop of the curio

[agile forge]

I don't wanna scroll too far up but for columnus IAG with Deadshot, do I want stamina curios then?

[umbral scaffold]

If you’re going to use dead shot yes

If not no

Simple

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[agile forge]

And how many? I run a single +3 for the moment but I haven't tried using fewer or more

[umbral scaffold]

Perosnally it’s best to go all in but it depends on person to person

[agile forge]

Do I want +9 from curios or just settle with +3, and do I also want stamina regeneration?

[hollow ibex]

you'll want 9 + stam regen

[umbral scaffold]

Cause when you shoot the auto do you jsut shoot one target or hold down the trigger

[agile forge]

I feel like I'm with tou

[hollow ibex]

otherwise you'll run out of stam instantly

[soft blade]

yes

[umbral scaffold]

Stamina regen isn’t replacing extre stamina they both can be paired

[soft blade]

columnus will siphon your stam like crazy

[agile forge]

Hold trigger until red X stops appearing

[serene bough]

Yeah but you can get those same perks on THP/HP

[agile forge]

I'm running MF on this too because funni death laser

[idle swallow]

I'm not taking grenade regen on a marksman focus build, am I throwing

[near shore]

doing a little testing with the agri mk IX headhunter, and its not bad

[agile forge]

You're throwing at least 1 grenade per minute less

[umbral scaffold]

I feel like honestly for vet your mandatory skill is that

[near shore]

it's not "throwing" but it def helps the team

[umbral scaffold]

For every build

[soft blade]

a little bit

[near shore]

i would disagree, and agree

[umbral scaffold]

Every build should have Grenade regen all the time

Imo

[near shore]

its nice, but if you dont take it, take demo team

[soft blade]

it’s not the end of the world but having free nades is pretty big

[hollow ibex]

yeah

[zealous wyvern]

on auric?

maybe throwing

[hollow ibex]

grenade regen is one of the perks i'd absolutely take

[umbral scaffold]

It’s good if you auric run

[zealous wyvern]

on normals, no

[umbral scaffold]

It’s just too good to not have

[soft blade]

i wouldn’t say it’s mandatory

[agile forge]

I could see an argument for not taking it with krak

[soft blade]

even on auric

[zealous wyvern]

on normals, noone can force you to bring meta picks

[soft blade]

it’s just really good

[near shore]

basically, not mandatory, but high reccomend

[agile forge]

But with frags you want to spam them

Kraks, well, sometimes you go 15 minutes without needing one

[near shore]

id also say depends on what frag and ur weapons

[agile forge]

Other times you need 10 of them in a minute

[soft blade]

it’s definitely weapon dependent

[near shore]

well for krak, depends if u got anti armor

[idle swallow]

It would be shredders, it's boltgun marksman

[agile forge]

If you have anti-armour in the rest of your kit you shouldn't take Krak

[soft blade]

what melee

[near shore]

for the pic above, i chose shred to deal with crowds better

[agile forge]

Put away the krak before the krak puts you away

[near shore]

but i also have a 1 shot chain axe

[soft blade]

as long as you have good horde clear on something you’ll be fine

[idle swallow]

Think it was the XIII chainsword but that's flexible

[near shore]

chain axe gets the job done

1 hit

[soft blade]

i’d probably recommend a different melee if you’re not running stockpile but it’ll work

[zealous wyvern]

what is that ball on top

[near shore]

??

[zealous wyvern]

there is a big dark mass on top of the crusher i think?

[agile forge]

A freshly severed head

[near shore]

it might be the head

[zealous wyvern]

oh is it going flying?

[near shore]

prob

[zealous wyvern]

i never noticed the game does that for crushers

[agile forge]

It's just been hit with a chain axe

[zealous wyvern]

i was going to say "its not the head because their posture is downwards"

i never knew that crusher heads fly away if hit

[near shore]

ignore all else but agri shotgun

[agile forge]

I think the body is crumpling down

[abstract ferry]

ive been using nearly nothing but plasma on my vet, and wanna try out the revolver. whatre the meta perks/blessings to look for on this guy?

[agile forge]

Like it's downward force on the neck

[near shore]

surgical, hand cannon

[agile forge]

Surgical hand cannon maniac Flak I think?

[near shore]

i take cara for more consitent 1 shots

[hollow ibex]

i prefer maniac / carapace

[agile forge]

In descending order of importance

[hollow ibex]

you delete anything with flak anyway

[near shore]

crit dmg or chance is also a safe bet

[agile forge]

I only run it on my Zealot so I can Fury of the Faithful Crushers with it but maybe you are right

[hollow ibex]

honestly unyielding and cara might work too

[near shore]

it 1 taps on vet

even crushers

[agile forge]

Sweeeeeeet

I don't play enough vet builds

[abstract ferry]

Ah nice, thanks guys!

[umbral scaffold]

That revolver is in a weird spot where it’s a mix of a rifle and a power weapon

[near shore]

behold

[agile forge]

I have a plasma and a CIAG only right now

[umbral scaffold]

It’s great but I just think imo if you want a power weapon run plasma gun

[near shore]

lemme see if i can get a screenshot

[abstract ferry]

Looks like ill have to try again in the future lol

[agile forge]

Roulette isn't awful, but yeah, oof, what a brick

You could have stopped on purple

[near shore]

id say roulette fir that one is bricked

but the yee haw one is good with it

[agile forge]

I hate the idea of the agri revolver

[abstract ferry]

idm just scrapping stuff for t4 blessings tbf

[agile forge]

Never actually tried it

[near shore]

1 shot

[abstract ferry]

so its not a huge waste for me

[agile forge]

But Zarona is all about being able to shoot through a planet full of cultists to kill a batch of clustered up shotgunners on the other side

[near shore]

it actually does better dmg vs bosses than the heavy hitting one

i think the yee haw version needs 8 rounds, not 5

[agile forge]

Maybe better for monstrous specials games I guess then

I just like wielding the Emperor's finger

I point at you and you die

[near shore]

ya, for that specfically but over all def the hard hitter

[agile forge]

No matter what is between me and you

[near shore]

chain axe

knife

[golden nacelle]

Hey, anybody know what perks are ideal for chainaxe?

[near shore]

ya 1 sec

[near shore]

you could take blood letter

but thrust for sure lets u 1 tap crushers

[golden nacelle]

So flak and carapace is ideal?

[near shore]

ya id say so on mk 4

or manic

[golden nacelle]

Can you still 1tap maulers without maniac?

[near shore]

uhhh lemme check

[golden nacelle]

mine is a 12

[near shore]

none head shot, rev heavy

[near shore]

thats better for hordes than the 4 but i cant say anything for the rev since i dont use it

[golden nacelle]

word

[near shore]

if u want anti armor,4, if u want better cc then 12

this is a light, no rev

no buffs

[crude fiber]

3 is good for meme boss damage and min max crushers 1 shots. mk 2 and 1 are better imo

[near shore]

as u see, great vs armor, but gets stuck on light attacks even if u dont rev

light no rev

[crude fiber]

in damage its comparable but inly on weakspot hits, it also has much worse handling

[near shore]

.> u wanna see some meme boss dmg?

BEHOLD

[zealous wyvern]

but why

what

how

[near shore]

RRRRAAAAAA FOR THE EMPEROR

RRRAAAAA

id have to make one

what u looking to do

[serene orbit]

im guessing the weapon at least is a full bore/no respite unyielding agripinaa?

[near shore]

theweapon in question

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b25df89-e58d-4bb0-ade6-7e1d916b6411/cqc-specialist?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b25dd18-2580-4558-b0bf-12d32b70aba3/avg-london-exp?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b25d88b-8961-44c8-938c-0427cda884d8/anti-boss?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

knife is nuts on vet, better than on zealot for boss dps id say

[serene orbit]

how so? i havent built a knife on my vet yet

[near shore]

behold the img

16k dmg

1 hit

no clue

this is a safe 30%

ontop of everything else

u dont have to

are u new at all?

a good vet doesnt have to run that

well, fuck them

so what

[tiny summit]

I run Exe mostly

[near shore]

if u arent an active detriment to your team, then have fun

thats all i ask from ppl

[serene orbit]

if they need your shout, they need to get good

its not the vet's responsibility to be a healbot

[near shore]

vet and zealot are suppourt, in the since of toughness and corruption. howeveer, it should be nice to have not mandatiory, if its that then ur team sucks

[abstract ferry]

What are the best melee options looking like for vet now? I got this guy back early/mid last year, but unsure on if there are better options now

[near shore]

theres not really a best, but good choices for various things

[tiny summit]

PS6 because of its push attack and PC4.

[serene orbit]

it's still really good, but the Mk VI is more popular these days

[tiny summit]

God roll Rashad is one of the best. All the shovels are good

[tall torrent]

This is fine

[abstract ferry]

Ah, right. I'll have a little look at PS6 too as I havent really used anything else on vet since getting this and my plasma

[thick needle]

Mk 13 chainsword is always nice

[abstract ferry]

but good to know theres not much of a 'need' for it

[tiny summit]

PS3 still good. PS6 just can do its light spam and it's push attack deleting crushers and maulers

[agile forge]

All big targets really

[near shore]

u want anti armor, general or horde clear?

personally, i reccomend the devil claw

my baby ^

[abstract ferry]

Well, as I said ive been running nothing but plasma so its been nice having something that just wipes whatever is in front of me off the face of the planet

now im looking at stuff like the revolver im not sure what melee would work well with it

[near shore]

ya, wepons have X value to cleave

[near shore]

one sec ill make u a vulid, u want pure dmg?

to pull this off

[abstract ferry]

vulid?

[near shore]

huh?

oh

one sec ill have to make it and ill link it

[abstract ferry]

ah okay, thank you!

but yeah, something quick and easy to use for now. I can see how I go from there

[terse idol]

Keeping those perks?

[obsidian umbra]

how good is the 10% rending to all weapons perk?

[near shore]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b33b894-da43-4b54-be4d-ff2f22c0841b/ones-hot?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[near shore]

here ya go

[obsidian umbra]

mk5 autogun

[terse idol]

Test out that perk and onslaught

Its pretty good for ciag

[agile forge]

CIAG has dogshit armour modifiers on Flak and almost nothing on Carapace so Rending comes a long way

[terse idol]

Well you just mag dump maulers in chest

Onslaught and rending talent is for mag dumping crushers in the face iirc

Truer

[near shore]

eehhhh u could change the perks but the stamina is nice

[terse idol]

I mean ehhh

Not craazy on stamina on it

[obsidian umbra]

opions on this vet tree build? i wanted to try running ex stance over shout to mix things up

[near shore]

its not mandatory, but nice to have

[signal mango]

Smoke: does it stop gunfire(not just laserfire or targetting)?
Is it what all the cool kids are doing now?

[dusty sluice]

suggestions?

[left zephyr]

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[terse idol]

No I mean why not just swap it out for a damage type like maniac?

(Or lord forbid unarmoured)

[terse idol]

reload speed

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[terse idol]

That's fair, it's just ahh

The increase is just miniscule

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[terse idol]

Dats faiir

[tiny summit]

What gun?

[dusty sluice]

unyeilding to cara and what else?

[crude fiber]

probably just bump up thrust tbh

[tiny summit]

If you play aurics I recommend considering demo team over using 2 points for grenades every 60s.

[stiff glacier]

should i use mk3 catachan knife with fleshtearer or uncanny strike

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[idle swallow]

I did mercy kill/uncanny with the bleed on hit talent and it was pretty nice

not amazing but nice

[tiny summit]

I use both on my VoC build. More nades, more fun but I don't like spending 2 points just for it

[hollow ibex]

fair, i'm constantly dropping eggs so i don't mind spending 2 points on it

i know the recon lasguns are bad, but which one was the worst one again?

[zealous wyvern]

[idle swallow]

all

[zealous wyvern]

the worst was 7

i think

6 is best, 2 is kind of a worse infantry las

7 is just trash

[hollow ibex]

i thought 7 has more piece though 🤔

but yeah it basically just tickles crushers

[zealous wyvern]

i was told 6 is best

out of the worst weapon class that is

[hollow ibex]

yeah 6 is prob the best

i was considering playing around with 7 as well because of its cleave

i know they're all bad

i'm just bored

[golden nacelle]

Haven't tried relvolver. How does this one look, and what would you change?

what are ideal blessings and perks?

[hard briar]

All the accatrans are trash.
When will they give us the real Elysian Accatran pattern lasgun

[umbral scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q6Tpu8C8Vg

welcome to malestroms

[terse eagle]

ok is this a bad take?
25% ammo should switch places with with the talent directly above or below it either one.

[dusty sluice]

still not sure lol

[cerulean void]

smoke does not stop gunfire or laserfire, if you're in the middle of the cloud it interrupts enemy detection and them being able to A. trace their target and follow where you move and B. being able to line up a new shot on you and begin firing

[ripe totem]

decent stat roll but should get hand cannon and surgical

[cerulean void]

they will continue to fire where they last detected you

[agile forge]

Accatran Heavy Laspistol is a joke to you?

[hard briar]

Yes.
Why use the Heavy Laspistol
When there's the Heavy Heavy Laspistol which is better

[agile forge]

Less dps iirc

But also less wear on your LMB

[hollow ibex]

one goes pew pew pew

the other goes PEW PEW PEW

[obsidian umbra]

mk 5 IAG

[fiery stone]

what's the best laspistol? never bothered to touch them since launch

but I hear they can be decent now

[hard briar]

Pretty good when compared to its other trash can pattern rifles.

[hollow ibex]

they're both good, accatran for dps, kantrael for alpha damage + stagger

[agile forge]

Think they are both good

[fiery stone]

cool, thanks. I'll give kantrael a go

[crude fiber]

4 was the most ive had at once lol

[frail bolt]

this salvageable?

[umbral scaffold]

you can change the blessings yeah

[unborn dove]

What’s the difference between specialists and elites? Working on Plasma gun perks

[tiny summit]

Go into the meat grinder. All the enemies grouped together like snipers and bombers in that sections are specialists. All other tagged enemies like ragers and gunners are elites

[hollow ibex]

also, elites are the ones that are already on the map, wandering around

specialists spawn in separately, and often from behind

[unborn dove]

Ohhh alright, thank you both

Should I put both of those perks on the plasma gun then? Sounds good

[hollow ibex]

usually it's preferred to take +25% damage for specific types

like flak/maniac is usually a very good pick

plasma could prob do maniac and carapace or something like that instead

[timid otter]

Gunner suppresing a person with markman focus stacks, reduces the amount of markman stacks...

Because it pushes the person backwards...

[unborn dove]

Good to know thank you

[tall torrent]

U want +elite for gunner breakpoints

[tiny summit]

MF enjoyer. Yea it has its shit points

[agile forge]

It's mostly shit points tbf

But the jankiness is a fair cost for how crazy strong it can be

I love it on bullet hoses

[cerulean void]

it's really sad that MF is better for full-auto guns in the same way stance.exe is

[wanton dawn]

I don't know why but somehow exercice vault is the map where I get the most "taken hostage" by ppl trying to pad their stat or smth

Running around like headless chicken, forcing 50min+ game for some reason

[white minnow]

actual 400iq name for it

[wanton dawn]

At least it give me some 1m+ dmg game so I sound like a badass

But on the moment I just wanna die...

[tall torrent]

Lmao wtf

[tiny summit]

How can you even rescue that many time?

[stiff pasture]

What the fuck

[soft blade]

what

how

[white minnow]

approximately 2 deaths every 1 minute

[timid otter]

MAXIMIUM EFFICENY

[white minnow]

poggers

[astral ingot]

average penal legionaire gameplay

[tiny summit]

Didn't realize opening salvo essentially has no cd in between the bursts of the burst fire autogun

[civic knot]

Is new revolver still bad?

[soft blade]

99% casualty rate victory

[tiny summit]

Lore accurate guardsmen mission

[raw steppe]

New revolver was never bad