veteran-class

[bitter turtle]

i got frame drops

[serene sage]

me too

im restarting

mourning star is reading 45 fps for me

normally it's like 115 at least

[short mural]

Gives me time to work on my weapons muhahahah

[finite imp]

what gpu you got

wtf really it's more than one person

[bitter turtle]

guess ill restart too

[finite imp]

i just cold started my pc ill check this out

[serene sage]

imgood now can you add me again

usually first load is real shit

[finite imp]

are yall playing together

[serene sage]

load it again and it gets better

yeah allegedly

[finite imp]

lol who does that

were too busy teaching the meta

and complaining about pubbies

lmao

id be down to play with yall tho fr

[serene sage]

1 spot left uwu

my code is in my name

[finite imp]

omw

[serene sage]

https://tenor.com/view/on-my-way-darwin-the-gif-25515511

[finite imp]

the legends actually playing together crazy

lmfao

[bitter turtle]

I was declined 😔

[finite imp]

rekt

banned

[bitter turtle]

nvm

[serene sage]

no you aren'

stop lying

[frank basin]

Hmmmm

[serene sage]

@short mural friendd

[short mural]

I fuckin madeeeeee

It*

One second need to adjust my perks to be a better team player and less of a loner zelot

[serene sage]

yuri will probably run off in melee so you're fine

[wooden lotus]

im stoned and saw him

im inrecoverable

[frank basin]

Who’s Mike?

[finite imp]

fox you good?

[serene sage]

no

[finite imp]

ohp

what happen

[frank basin]

Oh Mike from breaking bad

[thick wolf]

I'm amazed the name fits the strict number of letters

[kindred vapor]

Is it just me or does the devils claw feel really slow and unresponsive

maybe its my internet?

[frank basin]

Probably delays input?

[kindred vapor]

Feels like a big delay in between heavy and light swings

takes this game from the most to the least satisfying

[frank basin]

Heavy swing has timing hit. I also experienced devil mark I cleave stick on hordes

[fair relic]

Never used this gun, seems fun. What are some good perks and blessings for it?

[frank basin]

Recon isn’t good rn

[fair relic]

damn, still?

[frank basin]

Last patch was good with crits stream and shock trooper

But they nerfed

Shadow nerf

If you wanna use them is on mediocre rank for now.

[fair relic]

aw man. How about the bolter? I honestly haven't played in about 3 months and am just getting back on it. I used to use the bolter all the time.

[frank basin]

Boltgun alright

Just pinning fire nerf down to 5 power

Last time surgical strike for sniping now there’s debate between mag dumping or sniping

Like surgical vs pining fire

[fair relic]

ah well I've already got pinning fire 4 on mine so no sniping for me. I also always wanted to use the plasma gun but good god that reload time is insane.

[frank basin]

Plasma was complain something being overrated

Like light attack has high cleave

Something like that

Right now trend people go Ciag @fair relic

Columnus auto infantry

With dumdum

[fair relic]

oh no way, so the vraks and agripiina mk1 are no longer the best autoguns?

[summer fractal]

What setup is needed with the veteran shovels to hit breakpoints? Can you 1 shot crushers with them?

[soft blade]

columnus has that spot

[frank basin]

Vrak still on spot with crits stuff

One guy run meme like headhunter with surgical

Agripinna mk1 no clue I think still viable

[soft blade]

any IAG is gonna be good

vet meta is tailored to them atm

it’s just columnus is a cut above the other two

[fair relic]

its a good thing I kept a columnus mkV

[frank basin]

I think folding shovel with blessing like limbsplitter take about 2-3 shot between on crusher head, and combine with weakspot blessing something like take a swing, either thrust.

[soft blade]

headhunters are a bit funky but still very solid

[fair relic]

oh crap which columnus is the better one the mkV or mkII?

[tired ember]

psykers are also gooning over IAG atm if memory serves

[frank basin]

That’s me

[soft blade]

yeah gun psyker is funny

[frank basin]

I gooning ciag on psyker

[tired ember]

turns out being able to shit 500 rounds down range in half a milisecond is actually pretty good

[soft blade]

mk 5

[frank basin]

With siphon wrap

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/imback-hey-terminator-gatling-gun-gif-13262475

[fair relic]

Now last thing I want to know is which lasgun is the best? Does the kantrael mgXII still dominate?

[tired ember]

this is why we need a volley gun ASAP

I'm not even a veteran main and I want that shit

[soft blade]

the biggest advantage of the other IAGs at the moment is the fact you won’t have to fear the inevitable ciag nerf

[fair relic]

how is the helbore lasgun also.

[thick wolf]

IA Lasgun

[frank basin]

I heard the Infantry Lasgun mk Ia is on spot since fire rate gotten high

[soft blade]

mg 12 got powercrept by the mg Ia

[frank basin]

Decent

[soft blade]

ironically mg 12 is the worst of the bunch as it stands

[frank basin]

Some people said bayonet

Mg12 slow and hit hard

[fair relic]

damn

[soft blade]

helbore is also in a pretty good spot

[frank basin]

Is just not dmr but some between sniper and dmr for mg 12

[frank ether]

you were on NA yes?

[thick wolf]

as long as you're not using mk3 you're good

[frank basin]

Too slow to charge?

[thick wolf]

Mk3 is not only very slow but its bayonet attack s u c k s

[frank basin]

Slow stab ya?

[serene sage]

still am

[thick wolf]

you're practically armcapping yourself by using it

its not a stab

its more like a half a second delayed slash

[frank basin]

@fair relic once there’s guy demonstrating the bug that melee blessing can apply on bayonet

[frank ether]

The NA ping just hits me different

I played there like 3 or so games and its easily 150+ ms or so for me

[frank basin]

I never see the ping in game

[fair relic]

chain weapons worth it now?

[frank ether]

might join if I make an ogryn or so though

shouldnt matter on oggy

[frank basin]

Chainaxe yes

Chainsword ya

[soft blade]

both are pretty good

[fair relic]

yeah I saw theres a new chainsword. should be fun.

[soft blade]

chain axe can actually keep up now

[frank basin]

Two new chain weapon light attack pattern are crowd control

Heavy attack overhead

Which I like them

[fair relic]

awesome

[raw crag]

sry just needed some melee SHILLING for all of the melee KILLING I'm gonna have to do with these contracts

[frank basin]

You can switch the contracts

one of contract taking too long, I swap them out rng find better one.

[finite imp]

@serene sage

[frank basin]

What now flexing score board?

[serene sage]

that scoreboard is drunk

[finite imp]

a couple of us played together and i wanted to show how close all our scores were

[short mural]

Og lemme check my kills

[bitter turtle]

i picked up the most diamantine

therefore i contributed the most

[finite imp]

MVP

[serene sage]

https://tenor.com/view/i-see-no-god-up-here-cat-on-pole-meme-gif-22978528

[finite imp]

that score board is so close to a draw its nuts

[serene sage]

oh so you are trhe one who took all of my diamantine

[finite imp]

lmao

[bitter turtle]

i mash e on boxes in general

usually that's why i have ammo at all

[finite imp]

358 crits B)\

[bitter turtle]

pickups i mean

[finite imp]

Critmaxxing

[serene sage]

problem is mine is telling different though

[short mural]

Me killing no elites at all lmao

[serene sage]

that's like 100k difference in damage

[late hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mouse-fight-chase-gif-8482060

[frank basin]

If play with y’all I get habit wandering off map looking plasteel

[finite imp]

i wonder why that is

[serene sage]

you played with 3 vets my condolences

[bitter turtle]

i heard the base scoreboard is a little buggy with overkill damage

[serene sage]

we were all running meta weps too

kinda

[frank basin]

Plasma?

[finite imp]

i mean i had my revo on

[bitter turtle]

does v7 count as meta

[serene sage]

yuri was running v7?

[finite imp]

yes

[bitter turtle]

yeah

[tall torrent]

A tier imo

[serene sage]

eh

[finite imp]

vrask 7, revo, and plasma

[serene sage]

A tier

[finite imp]

elites didnt stand a shot

[serene sage]

vs Plasma

not close

not OP btw

[frank basin]

Goddamn veteran

[short mural]

Ah I miss my plasma right now won't lie haha

[frank basin]

Are y’all play auric?

[finite imp]

ofc

[frank basin]

Oh fuck that

[tall torrent]

plasma, mk2 revolver, columnus mk5 are S tier

[serene sage]

im on my bolter now

[bitter turtle]

that sounds about right for it tbh

[finite imp]

were rocking the discord dream team

[frank basin]

I can’t handle the pressure

[serene sage]

ready to be creamed

[finite imp]

lmfao

[serene sage]

in term of damage

[short mural]

It was my first auric game muhahaha I survived and died a lot

[finite imp]

be my guesty

[bitter turtle]

i think its really strong but there's a clear weakness on the gun

[serene sage]

good job

trial by fire

[frank basin]

I barely handle pressure of auric

As Graia brauto

And my skill play

[bitter turtle]

auric is really not that bad, we're just doing normal and not mael anyway

[finite imp]

welcome to the "fun"

alright lockin in

[tall torrent]

auric is just a separate playlist with modifiers all the time

[serene sage]

waiting for next mael, I hate no ammo

[bitter turtle]

no ammo is fun

[serene sage]

it's just plasma spam

[frank basin]

They are high intensity

[bitter turtle]

though

[finite imp]

same

[bitter turtle]

😔

oh

[short mural]

I normally don't take all this team support because I tend to run a heavy speed crit demon for randoms

[bitter turtle]

i actually melee ok

[serene sage]

no sir you're opnion is wrong

[tall torrent]

auric damnation HiSTG doesn't differ from regular damnation HiSTG iirc

[orchid cargo]

worth spending the melks?

[finite imp]

im a knife maxxer and no ammo sucks

[frank basin]

I would die in pub histg damnation

Easily

Instant wipe

Because someone possible got caught in second

[tall torrent]

just play more high intensity and get experience ig

[frank basin]

I been hi int in damn pub

Is sweat play

Not stg

[tall torrent]

it's not that bad

[frank basin]

Just hi int hound or regular hi int

[tall torrent]

high intensity is not as hard as STG

[frank basin]

Regular stg damnation is fine

[late hatch]

hi int just means the trickle of trash mobs never stops

[frank basin]

Hi int put lot pressure on me

Combine stg is death sentence

My reflexes aren’t that quick

[tall torrent]

depends on ur weapons

[frank basin]

Since I’m on depression : (

[frank basin]

I had loadout like braced rev, Graia brauto, shredder / shotguns / Mg iv Lasgun / boltgun, and plasma (each coma is seperated loadout)

Just my play style

[bitter turtle]

that was awkward

lol

[finite imp]

WELP

sometimes even the dream team can die

[serene sage]

you guys suck

[bitter turtle]

i was the last one to go down

so it wasnt my fault

etc

actually if i actually noticed what happened i probably could have saved it lol

[finite imp]

actually im gay and you're gay and everyone is gay but me

[late hatch]

HIST really rewards you knowing the spawns and spawn noises diff enemies make.

[finite imp]

etc

[frank basin]

I avoid I hi int stg

All time only on damnation, sometime.

[serene sage]

we can't do the salty run back

[finite imp]

stabby run back

[rigid whale]

what's the "best" full auto weapon to use with exec stance

[frank basin]

Columnus, or Agrippina

[rigid whale]

IAG?

[frank basin]

Yes

[rigid whale]

i've been using the graia with exec, was gonna try one of the braced autos

[frank basin]

Like graia braced auto?

[rigid whale]

nah graia IAG

[tiny summit]

After enough aurics no modifier and low intensity damn feel weird. But sometimes the director thinks it's HI anyways

[rigid whale]

boy these weapon names sure are fun

[tiny summit]

Gyatto

[soft blade]

[thick wolf]

director when low intensity heresy sometimes be like

oops rager regiment

[tiny summit]

I think heresy has been my least played difficulty

Sometimes the heresy maelstrom is worth more than available damnations and I find that funny

[rigid whale]

exec with braced auto sounds fun, assuming the crosshair when bracing is to be trusted

you can just aim for head level and get headshots

[tiny summit]

You can't. There's a crosshair mod that shows the cone of fire is a lot better than the crosshair tells you

[late hatch]

crosshair remap is one of the best QOL mods in the game. half the normal ones are so fkn bad

[tiny summit]

Hip firing agri is actually very forgiving

[rigid whale]

dang

[soft blade]

brauto exe stance is actually pretty fun and funny

[late hatch]

like the normal staff crosshair is a JOKE

[rigid whale]

i would love to use exec with a recon but it's so meh

it's just so so meh

[tiny summit]

Bracing for the most part "levels" or "smoothes" out the spread horizontally. More than actually making it more accurate

Yea don't. I spent a night of Exe MF Recon in its current state.

[rigid whale]

do you mean vertically?

or is the crosshair when braced just that inaccurate lol

[late hatch]

brace makes it more hori for gunning hordes

[tiny summit]

^

[rigid whale]

ah

[tiny summit]

It can level out the spread for more headshots during a horde. But for the most part hip firing is fine

But graia brauto is funny since bracing is fuller auto

[rigid whale]

is graia the best braced autogun

[hollow ibex]

agri better imo

[soft blade]

p sure it’s agri

[tiny summit]

Preferences. But it's chunky and does the job. Can also shoot through ogryn teammates

[soft blade]

that’s always nice

[hollow ibex]

between graia and agri it's prob a tossup

but i strongly prefer agri

[rigid whale]

i'm choosing graia because it looks way cooler

[soft blade]

yeah idk i’ve only really used agri

[tiny summit]

Columnus wasn't satisfying to me. Agri has the chunky hits and graia fuller auto will always be funny

[soft blade]

i’m not a huge brauto guy

but brauto knife is pretty cool

[tiny summit]

I like it on my zealot

Prefer las and iags on vet

[rigid whale]

i really need to rebind crouch when i play exec vet so i don't need to position my thumb all weird to do crouch-dodges

[hollow ibex]

like playing braced on my vet and never letting go of my lmb

[tiny summit]

I have crouch toggle - ctrl
Space - dodge
Jump - alt

[upbeat geyser]

does stability do anything on columnus 5. I was messing around in the test area and when right click held down you get the same amount of jumping around on a 60 stability versus a 78. Playing cs mode I can't really tell the difference either

[tiny summit]

Iag?

[upbeat geyser]

In the psyker training zone?

[soft blade]

infantry autogun is what that means

[tiny summit]

I never did the testing but I do feel like higher stability helped.

[upbeat geyser]

I wouldn't call what I did testing. It just felt like in the marksman mode it always sways the same amount and straight up hip firing feels really close as well

[frank basin]

That also has features when braced give faster fire rate.

[tiny summit]

Fuller auto

https://youtu.be/bmmqx5O10Ic?si=M4nHcEmMGElbDMFt

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-jungle-shooting-arnold-schwarzenegger-forest-gif-24074563

Me with Graia brauto

[tiny summit]

Actually annoyed I can't really play darktide on this job trip. Hotel wifi too ass at this location

[frank basin]

You play video game on vacation?

Instead enjoying the location on vacation?

Guh

[thick wolf]

I wonder why the helbore is reloaded like this

[tiny summit]

It's job trip lmao

[frank basin]

Oh

[tiny summit]

I'm in New Orleans. Went downtown already and it's night.

[upbeat geyser]

I used to do that, I had a gaming laptop. You're usually don't have the time to go do the tourist stuff. Its like 8-5 and you're 20 minutes outside the city

[tiny summit]

Least amount of gaming I did on a job trip was in Japan.

[iron marten]

SlaaneshOnlyFans

[frank basin]

What are you work as?

[neat stratus]

I do! Thanks for noticing!

[finite imp]

thanks for the games yall im tired tho

[tiny summit]

Install computers on bases

[finite imp]

remember to lick your knife before bed

[bitter turtle]

gee gee

[short mural]

Yeah same I got to work tommrow yall it was fun though

[frank basin]

Like assembling line?

[serene sage]

you guys suck

[serene sage]

good night

[bitter turtle]

somehow

the v3 keeps ghosting shots

more than any other gun

[tiny summit]

Also I wanna save money. I'll eat at a few local places, maybe see an attraction but eh

[tiny summit]

No. They send me out to a military base, I swap their computer stuff out.

[finite imp]

yall are godlike compared to the trash i usually play with

[serene sage]

yuri what are you doing in my strike team?

[frank basin]

An IT tech

[bitter turtle]

there

I LEFT

😔

[neat stratus]

NEED

[serene sage]

okay now it's too lonely in here

[neat stratus]

I can just replace the two bad things, you know the ones

[tiny summit]

Sure I guess. I'm just the labor monkey that unplugs stuff and plugs new stuff in

[frank basin]

Are you live in NA?

[upbeat geyser]

in my case they would give you a per diem for lunch but they wanted you to eat dinner at the hotel so they could control costs and going back into town to wander around for 2 hours wasn't appealing after a day of work

[frank basin]

Huh, that’s your job role?

[tiny summit]

Yes

[serene sage]

we have this conversation like 2 times haha

yeah I am

[tiny summit]

Yea I get per diem.

[frank basin]

Because I don’t remember

[serene sage]

no you left fr fr

rip

[tiny summit]

I like wandering but America still fucking sucks for wandering. Japan was awesome. Would visit again and take a week of leave out there again.

[frank basin]

Did the company pay ticket flight?

[tiny summit]

Yea

[frank basin]

Neat

I still dislike corporate job

[tiny summit]

They had to pay to get me out there. They have to pay to get me back home. I just made a later flight

[neat stratus]

Depends where you are I mean

[finite imp]

ever been out to wallops

[neat stratus]

There's horrible spots but there's plenty of nature

[tiny summit]

Most of america*

[frank basin]

Tokyo I heard is unwelcome for foreigners

[thick wolf]

funny

[upbeat geyser]

if they don't pay for the flights and accommodation and a decent chunk of the food you don't go because its an expense to you to do it

[tiny summit]

Sounds madeup

[finite imp]

it can be

[finite imp]

google it

[thick wolf]

since that player is the one who dealt a killing blow on a monstrosity

[bitter turtle]

no treally

[finite imp]

i have been refused service at certain places in japan because im white

[bitter turtle]

half the things have english signs

[tiny summit]

Barely know any Japanese. It was very easy to be in Tokyo for a week

[finite imp]

but honestly i can't blame them

[bitter turtle]

and its probably more likely that there was a rule there you didnt understand

[finite imp]

the way americans act in japan

[bitter turtle]

unless you speak japanese

you wouldn't know

unless this "certain place" is a soapland

then yes

[tiny summit]

I passed by a few "only Japanese" signs

[bitter turtle]

they will reject foreigners

[finite imp]

When the owner crosses his arms in the air and says "no Gaijin" it's pretty clear

[bitter turtle]

understandably

[upbeat geyser]

If you want to be treated like shit for not speaking the local language try Paris

[tiny summit]

Saw a GamesWorkshop store in Akihabara

[bitter turtle]

ye there is one

[thick wolf]

this is still one of my favorite team lineups in terms of names

[bitter turtle]

i took a picture last time iw as there

[bitter turtle]

what was the place

[thick wolf]

appropriate that a person named SlaaneshOnlyFans is a Psyker

[bitter turtle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1193077440357093456/20240106_152228.jpg?ex=65bddbf4&is=65ab66f4&hm=79bcb0a8d19975da8d8b45f8eb5097b34eeb58d98627d11743c7ac50298482c6&

Japanese GW lul

[finite imp]

Dont remember off the top of my head I was there on deployment. Military folk are generally disliked

[bitter turtle]

well, dunno about military

[finite imp]

we took no offense

[bitter turtle]

its rare for rejections in tokyo though

[finite imp]

we were literally briefed it might happened

[finite imp]

this was in oki

[bitter turtle]

oh

that is different

completely

then

lol

[finite imp]

yes lol

[bitter turtle]

yeah that will happen

[tiny summit]

Wandered into that area because it's like a street away from Shinjuku where the godzilla head is. "This is japanese sex district" when he saw me just looking around and asking what I was looking for

[finite imp]

when you have marines literally murdering cab drivers? yeah

[bitter turtle]

i lived in oki for years, most ppl there really do not like military

but you cant compare that to tokyo, completely different animals

[finite imp]

we were NOT offended at all

[frank basin]

Yeah that happened story I heard

[finite imp]

i wanna go one day

[bitter turtle]

okinawa is basically another country sometimes tbh, culturally they have their own history too

independent from the mainland

[frank basin]

Is that from northern Japan?

[finite imp]

navy was banned from leaving base for almost a year

[bitter turtle]

okinawa is far south, halfway to taiwan

[frank basin]

Oh

[bitter turtle]

its an island

[tiny summit]

I was given a choice in job sites. Okinawa or Iwakuni. I went to Iwakuni. It was cool

[finite imp]

i think it was like 8 months

[tiny summit]

Went to Hiroshima

[bitter turtle]

formerly the ryukyu kingdom a few hundred years back

[thick wolf]

notify me if someone actually attempted to cosplay as the cover art veteran in a cosplay convention somewhere

[finite imp]

i wanna go see the hot spring monkeys one day

[thick wolf]

because it'll be funny

[tiny summit]

Pokemon Go was smart enough to not make the bomb site a pokemon gym

[bitter turtle]

anyway during covid the military ppl literally caused an outbreak b/c not following procedures lmao

[finite imp]

0% surprised

[bitter turtle]

the next week i saw old ppl picketting the consulate protesting military bases as usual

[finite imp]

this is why im getting out the fucking navy

it only took 2 tours realize how fucked up it is

they dump SO MUCH trash in the ocean

[bitter turtle]

but yeah, okinawa i think is still mostly gaijin-friendly, but military is a whole nother story

[finite imp]

they DO NOT break it down like they're supposed to

[bitter turtle]

i think somewhere in the area of 20-30% of the land on the island is dedicated to the bases

[serene sage]

gaijin means foreigners right?

[thick wolf]

yes

[tiny summit]

Staying a week in Tokyo was really cheap too. I spent a whole week in Ueno near a train station right outside my hotel for only like $300

[finite imp]

we were heavily briefed "basically the locals hate you and if you react badly to it we will fuck your life up."

[upbeat geyser]

technically barbarian I think

[bitter turtle]

and yeah, there's been constant controversies - attacking women, polluting, covid, etc

[finite imp]

yup

[thick wolf]

yep that sounds like the military alright

[bitter turtle]

japan is super cheap to travel to

somehow my DOMESTIC TRIP to NYC cost more than japan

[finite imp]

you literally HAVE to accept being kicked out, ignored etc. as like a general recompense

but its not YOUR home it's THEIRS

so you deal with it

[tiny summit]

Most expensive thing was the flight

[frank basin]

Gaijan similar to Cantonese call white person or western foreigner “Bac Guai”

[bitter turtle]

there's some really low cost carriers now

the cheapest trip i saw was 600-700 dollars for a round trip during august

[tidal quest]

is ammo the dumpstat of rhe hellbore?

[polar kayak]

how's this build for damnation? ;[

[finite imp]

i was literally just thrilled to visit japan i didn't care if I couldn't get sushi or ice cream in some places.

[bitter turtle]

you should visit the mainland sometime

[frank basin]

There’s more than sushi and ice cream

[bitter turtle]

okinawa is....

its not really japan lul

[finite imp]

but i like sushi and ice cream

[bitter turtle]

i mean it is, but it kinda isn't

[frank basin]

Man you are generic

[finite imp]

lmao

[finite imp]

LET ME ENJOY THINGS

[serene sage]

very based

[bitter turtle]

it has its own charm

but its very different

[frank basin]

[tiny summit]

Had to eat here. I mean, gorilla curry?

[bitter turtle]

the people and general atmosphere

[gleaming adder]

Do you have thoughts?

[finite imp]

i love eating raw gorilla meat yummy

[bitter turtle]

gogo curry is overrated in akiba, go to hinoya :^)

[finite imp]

...no

[gleaming adder]

like your own voices in your head

[bitter turtle]

at least imo lul

[finite imp]

yes

[gleaming adder]

ok you aint an NPC

[finite imp]

it tells me to buy knives and knifemaxx all the time

[bitter turtle]

o ya

[tiny summit]

Rending on MF is trash. Don't

[bitter turtle]

if you've been to akiba recently

i saw ppl complaining on the net

on jp sites

"WHERE'S OUR JAPANESE PRIDE

ALL THE BILLBOARDS ARE FULL OF CHINESE GAMES"

[frank basin]

@bitter turtle you visit Japan?

[bitter turtle]

since all the billboards are AK, genshin, Blue archive, etc

[finite imp]

i think he lives there

[gleaming adder]

His name is literally john in hiragana

[finite imp]

based on how he talks

[tiny summit]

Probably. It was just a gorilla face. I had to

[bitter turtle]

i used to live there*

[finite imp]

see

[bitter turtle]

now i just visit every year

[finite imp]

you sound local

[frank basin]

Huh

[finite imp]

sounded*

[bitter turtle]

Jun*

じょん <- is Jon/John

[polar kayak]

rending strike 10% or weapons specialist with ammo perk?

[tiny summit]

Oh yea. I was there when Genshin was the wifi promo. So much Genshin. AK posters at the train station too

[thick wolf]

isn't Blue Archive technically South Korean?

[gleaming adder]

That shit trips me up rn, the yu and yo

[finite imp]

https://youtu.be/QPyA0l2S4ys

[thick wolf]

since you know, Nexon?

[tranquil bronze]

Changed his pose a bit. Now he looks like he's moving.

[finite imp]

Watashi Wa Lieutenant Dan

[bitter turtle]

yeah, but they just meant in general

they included Nikke as well, also korean

[tiny summit]

I would go more into the middle tree and get at least Iron Will and Demo Team for grenades.

[frank basin]

So blue archive developed by Nexon

[bitter turtle]

well, at least there was a lot of Heaven Burns Red stuff, that is japanese

[frank basin]

I recognize this game company Nexon make clash of clan clone

[finite imp]

to answer your question from earlier i speak very basic japanese

its enough to survive as a tourist

[bitter turtle]

for tokyo at least, you can survive with basically no japanese

some ppl insist on trying to speak english to you too lol

[frank basin]

Because Tokyo is hotspot for tourism

[finite imp]

yeah i still kinda wanted to learn out of respect

[tiny summit]

Maybe if Japan made some better gachas and not have region locks on some of there's they would be more popular.

[finite imp]

this happened alot

[bitter turtle]

last time I was in tokyo, I was at a cashier

speaking japanese

[finite imp]

i was very thankful

[bitter turtle]

and he started speaking english

[thick wolf]

I love how rebreather isn't capitalized at all

[bitter turtle]

he was not bad actually

but even though i responded in japanese he insisted on responding in english

and i laughed afterwards at the absurdity

both of us are speaking our weaker language on purpose to go "no no i insist, ill accomodate you"

[junior needle]

It's ok, a few points I'd switch around personally. The ciag does so much damage that exe becomes redundant and I'd personally recommend voc with overshield. The team highlight talent can also fuck you over with other people poaching resets.

[finite imp]

i always thanked locals if they could speak english to me

it made everything so much easier

[frank basin]

I’m broke to travel

[thick wolf]

it's basically like that one conversation in RE6 with the old gunshop owner and his japanese friendo

[bitter turtle]

Yeah, okinawa is also very english-friendly just because they do depend on business from the military bases in the end

[indigo siren]

Anyone wanna do a all class round?

[drifting oak]

is there a weapon that actually benefits from exec stance in the current state of the game

aside from "the stars align" boss melts

[gleaming adder]

Lasgun

infantry

1a or the 12

[bitter turtle]

Like as much as a lot of locals don't like the bases, they still get a lot of income from dudes going off-base to drink and stuff

[drifting oak]

yeah, you get one-body breakpoints with the mg12

[bitter turtle]

Doesn't help that okinawa is the poorest prefecture too

[drifting oak]

I just got used to headshotting them with an mg4 though

[frank basin]

21 pilot fans what’s your favorite song?

[upbeat geyser]

I'm not sure. You don't have shout. The leftmost executioner perk requires your team to do something with the knowledge. Rending is not great and requires you to be at max stacks. Deadshot requires you to be firing a slow firing weapon which is fine if you have a plasma gun, not so much a columnus. You don't have iron will which is mandatory. You don't have reciprocity. Everyone dodges, why not get 25% crit chance for doing it. Born Leader is buggy. Just get suppression instead. I wouldn't take killzone or anything based on range because of how often stuff is in your face

[polar kayak]

yeah i have been failing all damnation runs with exec stance :[

[thick wolf]

actually funny thing, what if two teammates understand each other but they deliberately speak in different languages just to confuse the enemy

[indigo siren]

Disposal unit

[frank basin]

I like older song (yes I’m talking about 21 pilots songs)

[spring spindle]

That Mutant said ZZZZZZZZZZZ mimimimimi

[bitter turtle]

sounds like Tekken

[white minnow]

ascension riser moment

[drifting oak]

i've been noticing a lot of "enemies die to doors while walking out of them"

we had a boss straight up die coming out of a door after it used one to try to get to us

[thick wolf]

that mutant must have one too many bottles drank

[white minnow]

https://streamable.com/0squ0f

[gleaming adder]

bro how LOW is your graphics

[white minnow]

gaming

[drifting oak]

bro those are some quake II graphics

[junior needle]

1a is the most favored currently for the balancing of one shot potential/usability/feel and has the highest overall dps of all infantry lasguns.

12 has the highest one shot potential but is less forgiving and the slower fire rate means it doesn't feel as good and has the lowest overall sustained dps.

[thick wolf]

bro wtf is those graphics

[white minnow]

i'm a gamer

[thick wolf]

are you running Darktide on the Nintendo 64

[frank basin]

RuneScape graphic

[tiny summit]

When you do get better and use different weapons, exe can still be good. I prefer exe but yea VoC is the simpler and more easy to work with skill. Exe requires more smart positioning and there are more suited weapons than CIAG

[bitter turtle]

you can turn off graphics basically

stuff like fog and whatever

its for gamers(tm) :^)

[drifting oak]

his texture quality

[bitter turtle]

yeah i know

[spring spindle]

Now I want Darktide OST in RuneScape sound font

[drifting oak]

is PS1 tier

[bitter turtle]

it reduces it down to literal polygons

[drifting oak]

it's amazing

[bitter turtle]

for more OPTIMAL GAMEPLAY

[white minnow]

😎

[gleaming adder]

I swap between the two depending on how im feeling but I'm more familiar with the 12 as I have been running it since launch

[thick wolf]

another one

[amber cliff]

of COURSE its acro plying like this

of COURSE

[white minnow]

who me

[frank basin]

Acro like play testing version

[frank ether]

arguably an improvement

[amber cliff]

HATE this guy

[junior needle]

Exe is considerably harder to use for the benefit of a bit more damage and some breakpoints, but the good guns already don't need it.

VOC gives you and your entire team a constant stupidity buffer that is much more likely to save runs overall.

[frank basin]

Yes

[thick wolf]

the quake 2 graphics in question

(yes I know this is remaster i cant be assed loading the og version because I don't like og version)

[fast cargo]

Speaking of Breakpoints, is the Lucius III useable on Damnation?

[drifting oak]

biggest reason for VOC
being overshielded means you won't take damage from bursters
The same bursters your teammates will fail to push when they jump on them and you're caught in the blast
Or the bursters they shoot while you're about to push them completely safely

[amber cliff]

what the FUCK is quake

[drifting oak]

absolutely

it drills through crushers and maulers like a hot knife through butter

[fast cargo]

The granddaddy of modern FPS

[tiny summit]

You do more dmg therefore things either drop faster or with less bullets if they aren't 1 tapped

[amber cliff]

quakes on these nuts

[thick wolf]

I thought Wolfenstein 3D is the granddad of FPS

[frank ether]

honestly I think if they used a bit less brown in palette its a good looking game

[fast cargo]

Onslaught/Surgical/Flak/Cara?

[amber cliff]

🔥✍️🔥

[polar kayak]

oks how about now, this my nade + voc build

[bitter turtle]

usable yes

[amber cliff]

not using smoke nades

[bitter turtle]

its a good gun

[amber cliff]

yer throwing

[bitter turtle]

but somewhat unfavored compared to its siblings right now

[thick wolf]

or the goddamn bright orange and/or red because my god it actually burned my retinas a bit

[drifting oak]

honestly I don't take carapace on helbore3, I take unyielding for boss damage

[fast cargo]

The Gradma fucked a lot of guys, there's a bunch of possibilities

[bitter turtle]

mostly because the bayonet is such a powerful part of helbore

and the mk3 bayonet is butt

[finite imp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p2nYORTnkY

[indigo siren]

What’s your guys favorite part about veteran

[tiny summit]

Yes. Charge rate is also not much of a hindrance with onslaught. 1-2 tapping crushers at range is great

[drifting oak]

you don't need carapace on it, it takes like a surgical headshot and a noncrit headshot to kill a crusher as is or something

[fast cargo]

It already makes the break with only Ons/Surg?

[junior needle]

It does fine gun wise but is much less preferred due to its bayonet being subpar compared to the 1/2. Also gun wise it's inferior to the plasma currently but has much better ammo economy with surgical/shock.

[bitter turtle]

what gun>?

[frank ether]

yee, there is also an RT version of it if you like you make your gpu heat up your room

[polar kayak]

this

[bitter turtle]

ngl it looks a bit clusterfuck

[fast cargo]

Figured it might be better for hitting breakpoints, good info, ty

[amber cliff]

Plasma gun

[thick wolf]

ew no

[bitter turtle]

let me give you a better tree

[frank ether]

RT quake 2 actually looks rly cool but its not the remastered version with the soundtrack and stuff

[thick wolf]

Quake 2 RTX makes it look more generic

[bitter turtle]

you dont need krak if u run onslaught

[drifting oak]

also yeah the biggest plus of helbore3 is you have to TRY to run out of ammo
Unlike with plasma where if you're having to carry your team you WILL run out of ammo unless you're on a bonus-specials maelstrom

[fast cargo]

I already have a near perfect plas, but I want to have something ready for when it (finally) catches its nerf.

[bitter turtle]

you dont want a keystone right?

[frank ether]

It lacks the remastered touch

[tiny summit]

I like being rewarded for headshots and elites/specials. Exe is my own mini game to keep the ability ongoing.

[frank ether]

also content missing

[thick wolf]

and it screams fan-made "remastered" mod

[fast cargo]

I'd argue for its use in boss damage, esp when the frags aren't great either

[bitter turtle]

keystoneless columnus is a legit option so

[polar kayak]

keystones = meh

[junior needle]

It is the highest damage variant with the best breakpoints, but it's also more unwieldy than the others to account for it.

[frank basin]

Only middle keystone

They function for me

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/b00357b94caa33bbae8e296140685b7a.png

[drifting oak]

mid tree keystone is okay but expensive and you miss out on a lot of personal goodies
right tree keystone is INSANE with revolvers and shotguns but pretty worthless for any other gun

[frank ether]

no keystone is the way still for most builds

[bitter turtle]

last 2 pts go anywhere

[fast cargo]

Yeah, slightly longer charge time and the bayonet's a bit weird, right?

[thick wolf]

also brother, Robocop Rogue City is already cooking my computer anyway

[bitter turtle]

you can take volley adept for more reload speed

[thick wolf]

can't play that game without turning on the AC

[upbeat geyser]

This might be more meta

[bitter turtle]

or keystone + stam regen for more tankiness/stamina

or demo team for more nades

[junior needle]

You'll see if you test one in the psyk. Longer charge time isn't explicitly a bad thing with surgical though.

[fast cargo]

I was thinking maybe plas but plas doesn't need it

[tiny summit]

Are you averse to toughness replenish skills? For this and your exe build I see you taking the other skill over CK and Out for Blood

[fast cargo]

?

[junior needle]

Press enter by accident

[neat stratus]

This will either suck or suck less

[bitter turtle]

pls dont take suppression

but that's also a legit tree too ya

[amber cliff]

no smoke nades

they are THROWING

[fast cargo]

I've only tested the III in the Psyk, wasn't too bad there or in missions. I'll try out the others, tho.

[serene sage]

but ytber told me it's really good 😔

[upbeat geyser]

Making shit that's dangerous duck and not do anything is good

[thick wolf]

which recon lasgun variant is best to use?

[drifting oak]

smoke grenades are literally trolling your team

[bitter turtle]

making shit dangerous duck behind cover so your team cant shoot them is trolling

[serene sage]

it decreases your ttk, just shoot em

[bitter turtle]

borderline trolling

at elast

[fast cargo]

The one called the Kantrell XII so you can be using an actual fucking gun

[bitter turtle]

and the really dangerous stuff cant be suppressed anyway

[neat stratus]

Making things that are dangerous take cover and become nearly impossible to kill isnt

[bitter turtle]

gunners are like the least dangerous elite/special

[junior needle]

6d is the best one dps wise and there's little ammo economy difference between them with rending taken into account, but all of them are quite bad currently.

[fast cargo]

Seriously, Recon Las are Really Bad rn.

[bitter turtle]

making them spread out or duck behind cover is annoying as fug

[neat stratus]

Missing followups because of unexpected ducking isn't either

[thick wolf]

I get the "recon lasgun bad"

[drifting oak]

they killed recon las with the shocktrooper internal cooldown

[bitter turtle]

6d is the best one still if you insist on using one

[thick wolf]

but isn't it too much to ask with asking which variant is best to use

[junior needle]

It's not just a meme

[drifting oak]

the weapon simply does not have the ammo supply to make it past two rooms

[fast cargo]

Wait, they gave it a what!?

Why!?

[bitter turtle]

you still want to 6d

[neat stratus]

Bruh if not for the damage this roll wouldnt be 100% garbage, eh it still is because it is but yknow what I mean

[tiny summit]

MGIV Infantry Lasgun with full auto mod

[bitter turtle]

stacks onslaught the fastest

which you basically need now

since its dmg multipliers are absolute trash now

[polar kayak]

i shuld prob take toughness replenishing to survive, i was leaning towards DPS tho

[drifting oak]

they saw people getting massive crit chains and firing like 300 shots and only going down 50 rounds in the magazine

[junior needle]

It's not so much an icd but an interaction with crit strings specifically. You only don't use ammo on the first crit in a string. And then they also gutted the crit strings for all the guns for no reason in addition to that, going to 2 from 3/4/5.

[upbeat geyser]

Anyway with the build you can pop out the crit chance and the suppression and choose one other thing

[bitter turtle]

you dont have to give up dps

[fast cargo]

... so they saw a bunch of Youtubers getting stupid lucky and nuked an entire archetype. Arg.

[bitter turtle]

out of the first row, only longshot gives dps and its not very good on column anyway

[drifting oak]

someone at fatshark has a massive hateboner for constant shooting, it's why "reload on ult" didn't survive the class rework

[drifting oak]

mate that wasn't stupid lucky

[bitter turtle]

i'd take CK for column but ET is fine too if you want longshot

[drifting oak]

that was just headhunter and landing headshots

[fast cargo]

Thought Crit was decently hard to build for tho?

[bitter turtle]

untrue

[fast cargo]

With everything being scattered all over the damn tree and all

[junior needle]

It's still a 2/3 scuffer at purple, but since you got it for free you could chance it if you really wanted to.

[tiny summit]

CK is good. ET is good. Out for Blood good. All of them good. Have at least 1 and Iron Will and you can survive pretty well

[polar kayak]

yeh, i take this approach too, can't kill something hiding

[bitter turtle]

why does columnu exist then :^)

its a better spray and pray gun that pre-nerf recon even

[drifting oak]

columnus has to reload every 2 seconds

[serene sage]

FS has no ideas what the meta

[fast cargo]

Because it gasses itself fast

[drifting oak]

I feel it in my bones

[serene sage]

tis the truth

[drifting oak]

and i fucking hate it

[frank basin]

Columnus is like micro UZI

[bitter turtle]

you literally can fire into hordes and still have ammo at the end of the round

[finite imp]

i legitimately hate that we cannot help you, but I just cannot be assed to learn the gun again until it gets fixed

[frank basin]

You mag dump with high rof

[bitter turtle]

i would know, since I do it with knife/column

[fast cargo]

Only lasting fire is the Ogryn Heavy Stubber/Charmed Reload build, I think

[drifting oak]

meanwhile pre-shocktrooper nerf recon could literally go through an entire room without needing to reload... which the helbores can do with shocktrooper (and that makes shocktrooper a DPS talent on helbores when you never need to reload)

[upbeat geyser]

the only thing I hate about columnus 5 is stability seems to do nothing

[bitter turtle]

with volley adept for fast reload

[fast cargo]

I didn't mean reserves, I meant the mag

[bitter turtle]

o

[fast cargo]

I wasn't clear, that's mb

[drifting oak]

but you could hold down the trigger on hordes and still have the majority of your magazine

by the time the whole horde was dead

[polar kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/survive-tropic-thunder-rdu-turn-pull-gif-16575954

[tiny summit]

Or unlimited ammo helbores

[bitter turtle]

even then, if they only nerfed shocktrooper, that would be one thing

they fucking kneecapped the dmg multis

[drifting oak]

i think it's because Vermintide had a huge thing about "ranged meta" whiners at the top level

[bitter turtle]

and crit strings

[tiny summit]

Yea the dmg nerfs on its modifiers was overkill

[fast cargo]

I think we can safely say they took absolutely nothing from Vermintide, given the state of the game rn

[drifting oak]

People want to fight, they don't want to sit and watch a player kill literally the whole horde without letting go of the trigger, every single horde

[junior needle]

It was an unintended interaction with headhunter and shocktrooper that ended up giving massive ammo value from shocktrooper.

Of course the dps still wasn't great by modern standards but they ate a big multi sided panic nerf and got absolutely dumpstered, so now they have literally nothing going for them.

Of course surgical helbores can get effectively infinite ammo even now but they didn't eat a nerf for it.

[amber cliff]

fuck hellbores Plasma is my best friend

[fast cargo]

So instead of capping headhunter, they nuked an archetype and a skill. Arg.

[drifting oak]

surgical helbores also shoot way too slowly to ever kill horde properly lol

[bitter turtle]

nah

the skill is still fine

most lasguns still abuse it for infinite ammo

just not recon

[neat stratus]

Its the stabbing that kills hordes, not the shooting

[junior needle]

Yep, the talent is unchanged for non recons

[fast cargo]

Just nuking an archetype isn't much better, really

[drifting oak]

yeah, helbore 1/2 bayonet is cracked

absolutely absurd

[polar kayak]

ranged weakspot KILL too hard ;[

[drifting oak]

WHY DOES IT STAGGER RAGERS

[amber cliff]

make plasma affected by the "crits don't use ammo" talent

[fast cargo]

Good to know, ty

[amber cliff]

Please.

[white minnow]

they just need to execute step 2 of nuking crit strings from existence

[drifting oak]

it stabs ridiculously fast, as fast as knife lights

[frank basin]

It is fast swinging?

[bitter turtle]

its not hard tbh, but the main problem with ET is it doesnt work for melee weapons

CK works for your melee as well

[drifting oak]

but it does a billion fucking damage, unlike knife lights

[fast cargo]

If it's anywhere near as fast as the III it comes out about as fast as shovel swings

[bitter turtle]

Columnus tends to be up close and personal

[tiny summit]

Shhh

[bitter turtle]

so you end up pulling your melee out a lot

and you lose a lot of value from ET if you're melee killing elites

the nice thing about ET is it works on trash mobs too

[frank basin]

Does some melee blessing apply on bayonet?

[drifting oak]

no

[bitter turtle]

brutal momentum does

limbsplitter used to, but got nerfed

[drifting oak]

wait, what

[frank basin]

Huh

[drifting oak]

BM still does?

[bitter turtle]

yes

[fast cargo]

ET?

[drifting oak]

I thought they fixed that

[bitter turtle]

exhilirating takedown

[fast cargo]

ty

[neat stratus]

Isn't it the other way around?

[bitter turtle]

unless the last hotfix patch acouple days ago changed it, it should still work

[bitter turtle]

hell no, or else it would still be busted as fug

limbsplitter was absolutely insane bc it didnt actually go on cooldown

[neat stratus]

Eh I forgor what ls did

[tiny summit]

Running ET, CK and OfB on my Exe MF Graia. Idk if it's good. I'm just vibin

[bitter turtle]

power boost on the first hit you do, if you havent attacked in the last 4 seconds

something like 40%

[drifting oak]

i thought it was like 60%

[bitter turtle]

60 maybe

i forgot

its been a while

either way, bayonet would proc it constantly without needing to wait

[fast cargo]

You know, it's funny, I'm chasing like six or seven things for vet and I can think of two more I could be looking for, but for Psyker I'm looking for exactly three items

Psyker's weird, dude

[neat stratus]

Oh so the bayonet just becomes almost as powerful as a charged lashot

[bitter turtle]

bromentum isnt nearly as busted as limb was

[neat stratus]

Thats neat

[bitter turtle]

so im hoping? theyre just gonna let it exist lol

[junior needle]

Meanwhile ciag gets to keep its crit strings while still being the highest dps automatic in the game

[white minnow]

what having only 4 force staves does to a mf

[fast cargo]

Hits like a train and can stagger well, but now you're in melee, soooo

[bitter turtle]

just play it like a gunblade

[neat stratus]

It dont even matter, you can literally just stunlock everything and dodging still works

[bitter turtle]

that's what I do with mk2 hb

lol

stab and shoot

proc agile engagement

become john finalfantasy

[tiny summit]

With my Exe MF Helbore build I still just run up to monstronsities to spam bayonet. Look I'm not a god gamer to get headshots all the time on the plague ogryn or chaos spawn head but bayonet? It just works

[neat stratus]

You know vests are weird

[white minnow]

just that shrimple

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/c600f32e2b3921e9dbb845c5a32d8b03.png

[drifting oak]

STR 3 mofos toppling chaos spawns

[fast cargo]

Yeah, why remove the sleeves from a perfectly good coat

[finite imp]

Brother. What are you doing

[bitter turtle]

making a gunblade

[neat stratus]

They go over your torso and somehow heat your arms well enough if it isn't too cold

[finite imp]

With a scope

[fast cargo]

Either heresey or a miracle, not sure which

[finite imp]

With a fucking scope

[bitter turtle]

the scope is for the charged shot

think of it like a limit break

or something

[tiny summit]

Scoped helbores are heresy

[fast cargo]

Take the scope off that and put it on the hellbore and you've got a decent gun

[neat stratus]

Here's the thing, you go into cold weather and you layer with both

[finite imp]

Bro thinks he's mf squall

[neat stratus]

Now you're extra warm but your stupid arms aren't burning

[fast cargo]

Seriously, the most sharpshooter weapon in the game, why does it have mid iron sights on it

[bitter turtle]

i do a lot of uncharged hipfire shots on hb2 lol

[soft blade]

knife with a gun attached to it

[bitter turtle]

just to proc agile

[fast cargo]

Please give me a decent sight Fatshark

[bitter turtle]

that IS a helbore

[tiny summit]

Helbore irons good

[fast cargo]

I could see that

[finite imp]

Knife with a knife attached to it

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/a6ac7b529f03d6e7386bb3e037393a45.png

[soft blade]

the funny blaster

[finite imp]

The luscious mk2 pressure washer

[bitter turtle]

i prob should put surgical back on

onslaught is pretty meh

[tiny summit]

Yep

Mk2 doesn't need it

[fast cargo]

You actually made me look that up you asshole XD

[neat stratus]

The vest is actually incredible for warming your chest area, while the coat is great for fashion and keeping your arms not frozen

[fast cargo]

My problem's always my hands tbh

[finite imp]

I just was dual knives

Want

Why did VT2 get all the cool melee

[rigid whale]

i want dual pistols

[soft blade]

probably because it’s the melee game

[fast cargo]

Because it was made to be a good game, not as a vehicle to extact cash from you.

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-jessie-say-it-again-mad-rage-gif-17606495

[rigid whale]

bro VT2 has like $200 worth of DLCs and microtransactions

there are microtransaction outfits you can only buy by owning a DLC

there are cosmetic DLCs for gameplay DLCs

[fast cargo]

It's also a working game, which you can't always say about Darktide

[neat stratus]

get a jacket with tightening, locking sleeves, then layer some wool gloves under leather ones (ps get a size of glove slightly smaller than your hand, they stretch to fit)

[finite imp]

Yeah I always laugh at people who forget just how shameless VT2 was about that

[frank basin]

Equivalent to destiny 2 dlc

[tiny summit]

It's also like what 5+ years?

[rigid whale]

i would argue against that ever since i got packmaster'd through a boulder and died immediately lol

[fast cargo]

I've got a couple, problem is my thumbs are weird which makes gloves hard

[neat stratus]

Too long or too short?

[fast cargo]

Half length and double thick

[amber cliff]

PURGE THE MUTANT

[rigid whale]

part of why i don't play VT2 as much is because its monetization system discouraged me from playing it more since i was missing out on so much content and didn't know where to start if i wanted to buy some of it

[fast cargo]

STOMP 'EM GOOD SAH

[fast cargo]

Fair enough

[amber cliff]

Destroy this mutant SCUM our thumbs are made in the god emperors images! they defile himm

[fast cargo]

It looks to be 70% off on Steam rn, so excuse me while I go pick all of that up

[neat stratus]

You definitely want some thick elastic-lined wool then, make sure they're quite a bit smaller than your hands unstretched and it'll perfectly fit everything

[fast cargo]

Noted, ty

Duality of man in the Vet channel tonight

[neat stratus]

np, I've always had a problem with getting nonelastic gloves and having certain fingers just barely be too long

[polar kayak]

wat curios should i use ? i saw someone with like 245 toughness, i only have like 158 ...

[neat stratus]

The elastic gloves that fit you perfectly are the ones that look like they're for a baby by comparison btw

[fast cargo]

I'm looking at getting tripple max toughness, but if you're melee I could see an argument for extra wounds or stam

[polar kayak]

i run 1 wound cuz down ez ;[ prob cuz melee

[bitter turtle]

gunblader gameplay

:^)

its actually faster to stab shoot instead of stab stab

works on ragers too

[finite imp]

Aim

[upbeat geyser]

+2 Stamina + 2 Stamina +18% toughness. Then some mix of stam regen, combat ability regen and more toughness

[finite imp]

What's that sightike

Like

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/7ab8af4ec11b47571eaf5bf5e0189c7b.jpg

[woeful ibex]

scap sniper scopes?

[terse idol]

damn that's cool

[fast cargo]

Hey, just logged in on Vet, why did a couple dozen cosmetics just get added to my account?

Looked like hair and eye colors?

[idle carbon]

did you buy VT2 recently

[fast cargo]

Literally just now

Ah, legacy gear?

[idle carbon]

ya

[fast cargo]

ty

[idle carbon]

tattoos, hair and eye colors

also a handful of hair styles

[rigid whale]

i got vt2 for free some bit ago, which is nice cause it means a lotta my friends already have it too

[twilit glacier]

pray for me guardians

[rigid whale]

🙏

[amber cliff]

I find it strange that a modder created such an intensive weapon customisation system like they have. How far along was weapon customisation before they scrapped it

[twilit glacier]

far enough along that it wasn't that much of a pain in the ass to mod back in

so far along

[bitter turtle]

from what I heard, the modders didnt do much but add in what they already stripped out

[thick wolf]

what set of cosmetics?

[fast cargo]

Hey, I went looking at the gunsmith and I can't find any Hellbores with scopes, how'd you get that?

[thorn radish]

man bolter really needs a buff

[bitter turtle]

weapon customization mod

[rigid whale]

this game was really supposed to have pd2 level weapon customization? dang

[fast cargo]

Ah. So something that should've already been in the game.

[queen ridge]

fatshark give me more 380 weapons 😔

[twilit glacier]

10k diamantine trades for 380 weapons when damnit

[thorn radish]

that's wayy too much lol

[amber cliff]

das sad

sad that they removed it so late in development

[fast cargo]

Well it isn't CoD, you know

[amber cliff]

man FUCK that comment its been taken out of context

I wont take this slander

[fast cargo]

Words cannot describe how irritated I am with the higherups

[bitter turtle]

are you on xbox or something?

darktide mods are really good

for

making the game

a lot more fun tbh lol

[fast cargo]

PC, I've got mods

[bitter turtle]

oh ok

[fast cargo]

Just irritated that basic funcitonality needs to be modded back in

[tiny summit]

curios are very personal, 1 wound is good until you get better. Vet scales better with toughness curios, a stamina curio is nice. The perks are inconsequential, just choose bonuses you want with those save for like corruption resist.

[tiny summit]

heresy

[umbral scaffold]

My theory on weapon customization is that fart shart has no idea on how to balance it, hence why the system is already there but it wasn’t officially implemented

[thick wolf]

or they ran out of time and had to gut it at the last minute

[thick wolf]

also get gunner resistance

you'll be thankful later

[umbral scaffold]

If they ran out of the time with a system already fully in place, why would they have to had scrap it?

The idea is that weapon customization would’ve probably changed weapon stats and that itself would’ve been hard to balance and work out

I expect official weapons customization to come out as a big update

[thick wolf]

just please don't end up like in nuCOD where people uglify the gun as a means to "minmax" the stats

[tiny summit]

weapon customization can be a weird thing to tackle. we already see how fatshark balances stuff, it wouldve probably turned into another rng grindhouse with trash attachments vs good ones.

[thick wolf]

I don't want to see a goddamn equivalent of an ar-15 with no stock and short barrel just because "but it decreases my ADS tim-" shut up you still made the gun look like puke to look at

also src: I also played Aliens: Fireteam Elite and it's attachment balancing is wild

[tiny summit]

that too. weapon customization may have taken away the unique look of guns between each other

me in MW2019 turning all of my assault rifles and lmgs into smgs

[thick wolf]

I'll be okay with it if it's just merely cosmetic like just slapping in a reflex sight with no stat decrease or increase

[terse idol]

because evidentally they didn't like the system

[thick wolf]

because no, attaching a red dot does not make your bullets go laser mode

[terse idol]

That you were forced to play a certain weapon archetype with the keystone

Which

Ehhhhh

I kinda wish they tried first

[hoary stratus]

just as long as we can get that beautiful accatran sight on everything easily enough I'll be happy

[thick wolf]

at least it isn't fucking Vanguard

where you have to fucking violate every single WW2 gun ever known to man just because of the karking meta

[tiny summit]

with how recoil is handled in the game, I dont like putting th reflex sights on everything. holding down the trigger on a CIAG has the bullets deviate so far from the actual sight that its jarring with any sights that arent default

I just turn on crosshairs while ADS now

[thick wolf]

imagine this but doing it with Darktide weaponry

[tiny summit]

Gamespot having that cursed weapon expert vid is hilarious

[umbral scaffold]

This is already what’s happening with extended weapon customization

[tiny summit]

yea but its a mod

[thick wolf]

Jonathan Fergusson we appreciate your sacrifice for us

[tiny summit]

Fatshark at least didnt make it

[thick wolf]

ik, and even if its a mod uggghhhh

PD2 and Future Soldier are probably the only games with extensive weapon customization that doesn't make the guns almost look ugly

also Metro Exodus but that one is a singleplayer title

[umbral scaffold]

I like code customization it’s not like the ugly attachments were meta unless you were sweating your ass off

[neat stratus]

What IS THIS

[thick wolf]

Call of Duty: Vanguard

[neat stratus]

I know its CoD but WHY

[umbral scaffold]

If you’re however getting sweaty on cod I say this to you: get a job

[thick wolf]

aka this game has unironic no right to ever exist both as a game and as a product

[neat stratus]

This wouldn't even WORK

[thick wolf]

almost every warzone sweatlord be like

warzone is a mistake and a blight to the series