veteran-class

[umbral scaffold]

IT'S SUPER OP ASDUFHGSJIFDIUAHGDS

[hard briar]

Lmao

[terse idol]

Who's our

[zealous wyvern]

you dont deserve to be in here

[umbral scaffold]

and then it's some generic shit that's them talking down to people who use keystones

[hard briar]

The server

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-toby-the-cat-nod-yes-yes-yes-hooman-gif-17105827

Femboy Veteran is canon

[tiny summit]

Me posting my shit auric damn gameplays

[serene sage]

okay chat what if im a youtuber

[terse idol]

I mean, I think these prominent YT'ers are fine

[serene sage]

would you hate me

UwU

[bitter turtle]

Depends

[terse idol]

Its better to like spread good information rather than

[umbral scaffold]

I'd hate you even if you weren't a youtuber ❤️

jk

[hard briar]

Really depends

[terse idol]

Make garbage builds

[bitter turtle]

do you have a cute vtuber avatar

[serene sage]

[terse idol]

And advertise as "beginner friendly"

[bitter turtle]

I don't watch fleshtubers

[terse idol]

Or "the ultimate build"

[zealous wyvern]

i dont hate anyone based on uploading youtube videos

[serene sage]

I would commission a $200 avatar just for that

[hard briar]

Literally 99% of the Darktide YT community spread aweful info

[frank basin]

Smudged!!

[zealous wyvern]

that is horrible

[umbral scaffold]

That's why I hate darktide build youtubers

[terse idol]

Chocob is an entertainment guy for solo runs

[frank basin]

Da Kobold

[umbral scaffold]

99% of it is just

[tiny summit]

It's not much I know but why is the Exe MF Helbore vid have 150 views and the others like nothing lmao

[umbral scaffold]

THIS BUILD FUCKS

THIS IS THE SEX BUILD IT'S SUPER OP

[hard briar]

Like for example
"HSWORD WITH Crit and Weakspot damage.:

[wanton dawn]

[hard briar]

[muted knot]

That's like our discord lol

[umbral scaffold]

Just play whatever you like broskie

[terse idol]

Least j-sat is icredible

But yes

[wanton dawn]

Exactly

[umbral scaffold]

I can finish games with the goddamn Shredder pistol

it doesnt' mean I'm gonna pretend it's good

why tf u telling me purgatus is op staff

[terse idol]

Alot of darktide content creators are kinda poopie

[umbral scaffold]

it doesn't do shit vs maulers dsaufhsgjhniagndfbsgo

misinformationnn

[umbral scaffold]

Me when a build creator is like
PURG IS SUPER OP

[spice wadi]

i do not fear regular maulers but i do fear the dsaufhsgjhniagndfbsgo variant maulers

[umbral scaffold]

and the video is his team killing half the specials and elites

cos he doesn't do anything

[umbral scaffold]

VT2 Chaos Warriors are the ADUFSHJHIJFDFISG maulers

[hard briar]

I remember the old "Tips for damnation" vod fatshark recommended and had on the client when it opened

[terse idol]

Yeah thats content creators

[umbral scaffold]

Me when the Chaos Warrior does a 360 spin before overheading

[white minnow]

purg does do fine against maulers

[spice wadi]

u were simply outdanced

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/bardin-vermintide-dwarf-warhammer-gif-23354885

[hard briar]

Literally telling ppl how to be that guy we all hate in damnation

[terse idol]

I'm still peeved that there was some information JFJ had wrong

[spice wadi]

go back to ur ghost town psyker main

[terse idol]

In the vid

[white minnow]

shut up mittins

[terse idol]

And that was pushed on the launcher

[serene sage]

arco is psyker main?

really?

[sharp ember]

thats the upcoming dreg mauler, who uses a huge powered monkeywrench and deflects lasfire with his 6pack

[tiny summit]

Checkmate, I saw 10 maulers die to fire in the background. Idk how long they were set on fire, I just saw a line of them die! Obviously purgatus OP.

I don't do testing

[white minnow]

no i'm vet main of course

[serene sage]

hmm im onto you

[umbral scaffold]

No hate if you like Purg
but a video showcasing "PURG IS OP" and the video is just plasma sword veteran killing 60% of the maulers isn't gonna make me think it's good

[serene sage]

freak

[umbral scaffold]

TRUE
THEY DIED UNDER WILDFIRE

Technically
He did the damage ;60

Veteran just last hit it

I like the way you theorize

[nimble sentinel]

I just got here, is the yourtuber darktide situation really that bad?

[white minnow]

i don't know which video you're referring to, but I am responding to the statement that purg does nothing against maulers

[spice wadi]

not rly

[white minnow]

it is the one of the enemies that purg does cover

[spice wadi]

it's just standard ppl post clickbait

[wanton dawn]

Nah

[umbral scaffold]

It's not so bad

[spice wadi]

and then get really steamed when they are told they are wrongers

[umbral scaffold]

it's just that the ones you tend to see are pretty toxic and or bad

[hoary stratus]

no but it's more fun to pretend that it is so we can be angry about something

[white minnow]

there are valid reasons to hate purg and we don't need to frame a guilty person

[serene sage]

not really
we just like to comment on one person specifically because he's a meme here

[umbral scaffold]

and just clickbait hard

[hard briar]

It's not that bad ANYMORE

[umbral scaffold]

It's why i appreciate ChocoB, Zigo, and Jsat

[hard briar]

Before it was Literally just click bait, malice gameplay as a Damnation guide/build

[umbral scaffold]

no "THIS IS ULTIMATE BUILD CLICKBAIT MEMES"

[tiny summit]

I think the only one I am subscribed to is Wile Spice because I like his presentation and voice

[umbral scaffold]

it's just
Here's some gameplay and that's it

come try out the new funny knife

okay done

[visual remnant]

[sharp ember]

the one darktide youtuber i watched in full was ryken? he had a really good breakdown on how helbores work

[spice wadi]

deploy cica again

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/blood-ravens-warhammer40k-space-marine-dawn-of-war-gif-27475126

[serene sage]

I like Wile Spice
I owe that dude an apology cause I made fun of one of his shorts but apprently it was me who was blind

[visual remnant]

Kill u mittinz

[umbral scaffold]

Reddit disliked this

[visual remnant]

X20

[umbral scaffold]

don't you know Veterans are squsihy

[serene sage]

I don't do that 😭

[serene orbit]

can confirm, my brain is broken and i'm dead ez

[umbral scaffold]

and do less damage than zealots and have none of th survivability

😔

[serene orbit]

oh you mean the class

point still stands

[umbral scaffold]

I legit lmaoed though

when Reddit was telling me Plasma Guns are just worse Voidstrike staves

[white minnow]

will u be my darcy OwO

[serene orbit]

maybe at launch..

[tiny summit]

What's the point of the filter if we just immediately post the screenshot

[umbral scaffold]

If they said launch, maybe

but that was like 2 weeks ago

they must be high af

[hoary stratus]

if voidstrike punched through bulwark shields I would never stop playing it

[serene orbit]

time travel, maybe

[umbral scaffold]

If I got the double hit blessign I'd play it

[hard briar]

I am the last Scholar of Darcy

[terse idol]

Okay I'm gonna say the thing

[wanton dawn]

What the point of the filter if you can bypass it with clever wording ?

[umbral scaffold]

This is where I'd put my Surge

[serene sage]

how are people still mentioning her name

[umbral scaffold]

IF I HAD ONE

[terse idol]

Many folks are trying to hit the algorithm

[hard briar]

Fuck them

[hoary stratus]

surge doesn't let it punch through shields either 😢

[hard briar]

[umbral scaffold]

ngl that's just funnier to me

[terse idol]

It is what it is unfortunately

Yeah

[umbral scaffold]

imagine trying to algo grind a niche game

[terse idol]

Its all click bait

[umbral scaffold]

Just play League

at least if you clickbait League

[hard briar]

I do

[umbral scaffold]

it actually gets you views

[terse idol]

Its over saturated

Woah

Maybe I gotta tey

[cyan vale]

anyone here an expert on shotguns i need an opinion on these

[white minnow]

the martyr of saying stupid shit

[terse idol]

[umbral scaffold]

Based?

We should pl-

[tiny summit]

Valorant e-couple shorts

[umbral scaffold]

jk I uninstalled cos of Vanguard

[serene sage]

do I have to defend her

[umbral scaffold]

I already have 1 intrusive game in my computer

I don't need another one

XC

[serene sage]

literally language barrier

[wanton dawn]

At the cost of your soul

[tiny summit]

Better to post the weapon sheet over inspection

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/oul-spongebob-squarepants-squidward-mad-gif-5518364

[serene sage]

ngl it's an overblown issue imo

people don't dogpile me but I think Vanguard is fine

[umbral scaffold]

It kind of is, ye

[wanton dawn]

What ?

[hard briar]

https://youtube.com/shorts/lkGKW6GKTKU?si=Gvoocni4XtX6mbPT
I'm like Kesha without the skills tho

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-philosophy-philosophical-choices-will-difficult-marvel-gif-16615025

[umbral scaffold]

but as a rule I don't like installing kernel level anti cheat

[white minnow]

vanguard is a pretty dead talent to me but I like OfB so it gets to survive

[umbral scaffold]

You'll always be skilled to me ❤️

Unfortunately for you

[tiny summit]

I play genshin so too late.

[umbral scaffold]

I embody toxic positivity

[hard briar]

This is the kinda motivation I need when I'm 0/22 to Yone top

[serene sage]

vanguard broke my computer, burned down my house, and scammed me out of my retirement

[umbral scaffold]

It's how I survived being a League Support to Masters

back when the Philippines still had a Garena server

[terse idol]

You hit the Yone power spike

So its fine

[umbral scaffold]

Do you know how soul crushing it is

[white minnow]

so true

[umbral scaffold]

to play Yumi

[tiny summit]

Thinking about returning to dota2. They buffed some of my favorites

[umbral scaffold]

nd have the most BRAINDEAD ADC

[hard briar]

I'm not Yone

[umbral scaffold]

SUICIDE HIMSELF OVER AND OVER

and you kjust need to be a dumb cat

😔

[terse idol]

Oh

TO yone

[hard briar]

Yes

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/yuumi-catjam-league-of-legends-meme-3d-gif-26095760

[serene sage]

you're a yuumi main aren't you

[terse idol]

Yeah god speed

[umbral scaffold]

That just means

you're on your way to 30 death powerspike

only 7 more and you'll start penta killing all day

[terse idol]

I'm sitting here 0/5 to Riven and she's gonna tower dive me for the next 30 minutes

[umbral scaffold]

I believe in you

[serene sage]

the wind shitters should be removed from the game

[umbral scaffold]

ngl this gives me ptsd of some dumbass I played with

[serene sage]

thanks for listening

[umbral scaffold]

that I can't forget

back in Season 3

[hard briar]

The Yone lane

[terse idol]

[umbral scaffold]

He died to Riven level 1

then died to Riven level 3, 4, and 5

[hard briar]

Dude I like tanks

[umbral scaffold]

and then was like

[hard briar]

And mages

[umbral scaffold]

HELP ME BEAT RIVEN

[terse idol]

Riven is fucked

[umbral scaffold]

Level 9 Riven

[terse idol]

But that is so funny

[umbral scaffold]

Level 2 Volibear

Me: Level 4 Lee sin

🤨

[terse idol]

[umbral scaffold]

yeah I'm gonna walk up and instantly die what the fuck do you want me to do

[terse idol]

We escape the top lane

[hard briar]

I main Toplane

[tiny summit]

Guys you're just feeding so they feel overconfident and feed their win streak

[terse idol]

Also mages are eating good rn

[hard briar]

Used to main support

[terse idol]

I main mages mid

And top if I want my balls crushed

[umbral scaffold]

I saw that video of an ahri missing every skillshot

and 1shotting a Jinx

Fucking LMAOed

[wanton dawn]

"[All] Volibear: Report lee sin plz"

[terse idol]

Just assassin things

[umbral scaffold]

That was the best part

[hard briar]

You seen tank vel koz?

[tiny summit]

Think I played like 2-3 games of League. I remember the teams just telling me to go mid as some rock dude and some ice witch

[umbral scaffold]

Dude was flaming all chat about how I didn't save him

and he was level 9 30 minutes in

he literally got farmed so hard

their support could 1v1 him

fucked up

[terse idol]

Top is suched a cursed lane

[raw steppe]

Thas dota

Fyi

Lol

[umbral scaffold]

Not yet
That sounds hilarious

[hard briar]

Rod of ages, Riftmakers, Jaksho.

[terse idol]

Malphite

Lysandra

[hard briar]

https://youtube.com/shorts/2DGdH3eZDqg?si=DnEmjKmPm7eNEbfl

[terse idol]

Look, tiny mid was okay once

Its... okay now

CM mid is asking to die

[raw steppe]

I'm like 90% sure he meant Tiny and Crystal maiden cuz ive never seen malph mid LOL

[tiny summit]

Malphite was kinda fun. I fell off hard later in the game. Lysandra was fun

[terse idol]

Its uh

Its okay

If you're memeing

And into like maybe yasuo mid

[umbral scaffold]

Remember Malphite mid

REMEMBER AP YI MID

[raw steppe]

CM mid was all the craze back in 2012

[terse idol]

AP tryn

[umbral scaffold]

You just died to random Q's

[raw steppe]

To get the mana aura up for team

[terse idol]

AP yi

[umbral scaffold]

AHAHA

The Q max Tryn

who never dies

and just kills you by accident

he spins at miniions

[terse idol]

To be fair, alot of mid hero's didn't have like alot of dive? I dont remeber

[umbral scaffold]

you randomly take 60^ of your hp in damage

Good times

[raw steppe]

no ppl were just shit

at the game back then

LOL

[umbral scaffold]

yeah there were points in League where anti dive was just better tbf

which is why characters like Lux got a small spotlight

[earnest lotus]

Maybe I'm dululu

[umbral scaffold]

League is just fucking weird at balancing

[bitter turtle]

guys what do you think about my next youtube thumbnail

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/20ad6c5eb145f315f44e7a48f68186e1.jpg

idk why i wasted 10 minutes making this

[umbral scaffold]

Remember when NA kept trying to play Gragas as a skirmisher

[bitter turtle]

something is wrong with me

[earnest lotus]

But I got spurs that jingle jangle jingle

[umbral scaffold]

when DFG exists

[tiny summit]

Nope. I was definitely referring to League. First few games. I went mid as malphite. I remember doing well. Dmg fell off hard later that game

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-confused-what-is-going-on-confusion-what-gif-17144812

Crzy

[raw steppe]

wtf

[wanton dawn]

Need white border on red

[raw steppe]

it's ok mobas are shit anyways

now is the time

[hard briar]

Yea. And when the Vel Koz one trick is telling u to build tank on Velkoz. You know it's good

[raw steppe]

of SURVIVAL GAMES

with poke

pals

[tiny summit]

CMs buying vanguards/armlet days

[nimble sentinel]

I'm still playing valheim semi-religiously :I

[hard briar]

Going full sustain And max hp scaling on Sion is Hella fun

[tiny summit]

Idk man, I didn't read shit when starting the game, no one went mid, and I chose rock man

[urban steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-darktide-sharpshooter-darktide-veteran-hello-chat-darktide-hello-chat-gif-2742873438399829862

whats new in a shop ?

[wanton dawn]

Recolor i heard

[urban steppe]

show

[wanton dawn]

Idk i dont buy skins

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/5c21995a7b0f7905409e4f1b59b393ca.png

thanks for the tip i hate it

[terse idol]

Urghhh, traditional mages mid are deeeaddd

[hard briar]

Needs more

[terse idol]

Kinda

This season is good

😌

[hard briar]

Lux also goes tank

[terse idol]

Bigger lanes means less easy ganks

[hard briar]

She literally does the same build as tank Vel Koz

[wanton dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[hard briar]

And just drowns the enemy team in her utility

[umbral scaffold]

😔Normal Mages are dead
Billions must die

[umbral scaffold]

Man I feel so out of touch now lol

Last time I played League was before Warwick got updated

I am an oldie 😔

[hard briar]

Normal mages are going full tank, millions must use their entire mana pool to do 25% of Lux's HP bar

[wanton dawn]

Last time i played uh...

[terse idol]

I just one trick veigar

[wanton dawn]

Lemme check champ release

[terse idol]

And boyo

Its pretty easy

I played when uh

Kog'maw released

https://tenor.com/view/savingprivateryan-ww2-old-soldier-matt-damon-gif-4203998

[bitter turtle]

league died when they killed magewick

and yes that was like a couple years in

game is dead to me

[hard briar]

Veigar builds Deathcap 1st item again

[terse idol]

As God intended

(I didn't know that)
I built like,

Shadowflame

[hard briar]

Man literally rolls up on you at minutes with death cap +boots.
500 ap

[terse idol]

Storm surge

[wanton dawn]

I think i stopped before pyke release

I started at maokai

[terse idol]

Oh and hex revolver

[bitter turtle]

oh yeah

they gave mordekaiser crowd control or something now

dead game

what happened to the good old days

[terse idol]

They made it so mord can't take dragons soul

Ruined

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-heretics-warhammer40k-40k-gif-27153016

[urban steppe]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/728174260878704643/1178364672756437022/salvatory_ogryn.gif

[wanton dawn]

Real mordekaiser has big feet and brasilian laugh

[umbral scaffold]

Dude is just like me fr

Maybe life's looking up now-

kick to the face and death

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-gif-21483615

[wanton dawn]

Outplayed

[hard briar]

Morde has an ultimate that was originally intended for Fiora

[serene sage]

They killed Mundo

I mained Mundo

[wanton dawn]

Again ?

[serene sage]

I no longer main Mundo

[hard briar]

https://youtube.com/shorts/N_b_UBCz5sg?si=2engsrkiOXviA4PH
Sion has never been better

[serene sage]

I'm a simple person

And they took him from me

[wanton dawn]

Member ap sion ?

[serene sage]

It's just League of One shots now

The amount of damage in the game is stupid

[hard briar]

Sion didn't one shot a single soul I'm this clip

[serene sage]

You die from one spell

[umbral scaffold]

I remember OG Sion

[hard briar]

He just healed and shielded for like 19 times his HP bar

[umbral scaffold]

back when he was Conan

Remember the oriignal Barbarian Sion skin?

so fucking ugly that I loved it lol

[serene sage]

I'm talking about most of the roster

[umbral scaffold]

NOSTALGIA

Back when Sion was AP scaling but got a lifesteal ult lol

[serene sage]

Remember AP Master Yi?

[umbral scaffold]

Good times

[serene sage]

Graves ADC

[bitter turtle]

ap yi and magewick

the classics

[serene sage]

Member Deathfire Graps?

[bitter turtle]

remember 2 button sion

remember AD sona

[serene sage]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-i-member-memberberries-south-park-i-remember-oh-yeah-gif-20408218

[bitter turtle]

they killed everything

ded game

[umbral scaffold]

😔

They killed Runeterra for League

[serene sage]

Remember Katarina face rolling and Pentakill?

[umbral scaffold]

I will never forgive Riot for killing the best cardgame

[serene sage]

Oh wait that still happens

[hard briar]

That's still in the game

[bitter turtle]

remember the league of legends existing

[serene sage]

[bitter turtle]

like the actual

league of legends

in the lore of the game

[serene sage]

You killed the joke

[hard briar]

Remember Akali having 0 skill shots and just killing u

[serene sage]

Thanks

[hard briar]

She still does that

[hearty panther]

remember launch ragnar

[wanton dawn]

Remember nunu bot serie ?

[bitter turtle]

yes actually

[hard briar]

REMEMBER THE DOOM BOT GAMEMODE

[serene sage]

Remember River Shen?

[hard briar]

Still happens

[serene sage]

I REMEMBER

[hard briar]

Still viable

[wanton dawn]

Remember lizard dude red buff in jungle?

[hard briar]

Shit when I get autofilled support I just got Twitch and roam

[hard briar]

I remember

Remember the ghouls

[wanton dawn]

Remember stinky trundle ?

[strange grove]

kennen best hero, rumble in close second

[hard briar]

Bug abuser spotted^

[strange grove]

no abusing here, havent played in awhile

[hard briar]

Kennen has had his shit bugged for several seasons

Riot just too 200 years of game dev experience to fix it

[wanton dawn]

Remember when leblanc and kassadin mid werent cancer?

[hard briar]

Kassadin isn't cancer

Lb is

Lb literally just builds ad and perma splits. You can't catch her, you can't solo her.

[terse idol]

Oh also they removed everfrost, so I'm sad now

[wanton dawn]

Well, guess time do change

[tranquil bronze]

Got a new face mask, and it came with goggles

[terse idol]

And if we go abit further in the past the twin ghost item

[sonic marlin]

would u consider this good or could be better

[wanton dawn]

I 'member the ghost

[hard briar]

Yea man's useless till lvl 16 anyway

[umbral scaffold]

good

but still rng

[hard briar]

Could be better

[umbral scaffold]

the stats are decent though

if you somehow god roll 1 perfect blessing or perk

[hard briar]

^^^

[umbral scaffold]

it's probably worth keeping even if it's not the best

but you basically need one good blessing/perk to consider it imo

[sonic marlin]

i want only the best

[umbral scaffold]

Flak at tier 2 is not the best

but it's better than rolling garbage like tier 4 infested

or whatever the fuk lol

so if you roll like pcycler 4, or Maniac/Carapace

[terse idol]

Then trash it

[umbral scaffold]

probalby worth keeping
Just put Slaughterer to replace the brittleness blessing and get a good alt one and it'll do work

[terse idol]

Its garbo

Sub 70 in finesse

On a finesse weapon

[sonic marlin]

i got power cycler to put on it, doubt Id rol it

[terse idol]

Im gonna meme

[umbral scaffold]

Which is why it's still rng dependent since you need to roll Maniac/Carapace for it to be worth keeping in the ned

[terse idol]

But if you're gonna want the best dump everything thsts not a 380 with a mobi dump stat

[spring rose]

Keep gambling

Eventually you'll get it... eventually...

[sonic marlin]

I spent like 500k

best i got was 360

[lilac eagle]

Occasionally I'll just got to the armoury and buy like, 20 of whichever weapon I want at the time

I have so much trash in my inventory

[nimble sentinel]

y'all gotta use lasguns more often I shot at everything in an auric damnation without a single ammo pick up and ending in the white

[muted knot]

I spent 700k and got like 3 370s

[nimble sentinel]

playing left 40k dead

[junior needle]

Depends on the lasgun, but you can get some great ammo efficiency with shock trooper and a critfishing setup

The downside is they aren’t particularly stand out compared to alternatives

[nimble sentinel]

what even is melee

[terse idol]

No mf

[terse idol]

[nimble sentinel]

mf is too selfish and unreliable, ft helps the whole team and instills a good habit of tagging baddies

and if there is one thing I do extremely well both in and out of game, it's tagging baddies

[serene bough]

I run a similar build w/ mf

[terse idol]

Wait wait

[serene bough]

It pushes some break points

[terse idol]

Are you running exe with lasgun

Also selfish?

Everyone is building for their own dps

Infil would be selfish

[untold mulch]

sadly its damage vs maulers is painful

[terse idol]

If zealot doesn't run chorus

That's selfish

[untold mulch]

And I need that flak damage

[terse idol]

Also hold on

Oh I got alot to break down I gotta chill

[nimble sentinel]

that's why we play DRG on the side to teach the cultists the value of diggy diggy holes

[nimble sentinel]

running shout

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aa29726-c30a-4f57-ac9f-c429bc669d34/my-job-is-gun-lasgun-veteran?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[tiny summit]

Fuck the team and fuck no does it promote good habits. It just promotes spam to create free pinatas

[terse idol]

Focus target is braindead and kinda selfish? Since you're getting your own buffs

Second

VoC is braindead

🥹

Its just as much for you

As your team

[bleak bolt]

how about.. play how you want and know how to shore up weaknesses in your build?

[terse idol]

Like if I play weapon spec

I guess in selfish?

We really one have 2 abilities that even interact with the tram

VoC and focus target

[tiny summit]

I'm not gonna say VoC or FT are bad because they aren't but man their existence warps this class' role

[terse idol]

But nobody cares if you're helping the team because everyone else is building for themself

[untold mulch]

kek

[nimble sentinel]

obvi, but someone's gotta give the las some love

[tiny summit]

Born Leader

[terse idol]

It really does!

[bleak bolt]

my las is my go-to for fun / plasma+voc for doin maelstrom/auric-damn

cuz - gotta carry on those higher levels

[terse idol]

Gonna say it but plasma voc is brain dead, it's good but it instills no joy in me

[nimble sentinel]

try infinite ammo on auric-damn, no more team wipes from gunners

[bleak bolt]

oh i know

[terse idol]

Also second

On auric

Ideally you don't solo carry

[bleak bolt]

also

[terse idol]

Voc is just

Problematic

[bleak bolt]

i discovered something about the helbore mk2 (i htink - the green one)

it's actually hella good with the right rolls and perks

[tiny summit]

Gotta do the personal handicap with vape nade build and still topping the elites/specials

[bleak bolt]

and the bayonet stab is

[nimble sentinel]

oh yeh my build also works with a hellbore

[bleak bolt]

yeah i always wanted to try it with my lasgun class

[tiny summit]

Yes bayonet good

[bleak bolt]

and it works just fine but needed some adjustments

it doesn't need exec stance

and with the chained charge blessing - it fires fast on charges - it just rewards headshots/accuracy

[nimble sentinel]

I jsut gotta stunt on the krieger wehraboos

[untold mulch]

Doesn't help that exec stance is not great per se

and infiltrate is a massive tax for most

[terse idol]

True

[terse idol]

Yeah

I mean infil is easier to swallow

[nimble sentinel]

correct on exe, infiltrate has its uses

[terse idol]

You can just take 1 point and get free stealth, and toughness regen

[untold mulch]

I use infil, but I am paying a lot of tax to reach it

[terse idol]

Oh

You take survivalist too?

[untold mulch]

I main infiltrate my complain is the tax to reach it

[terse idol]

cause I dont

😌

[untold mulch]

I take because I need it because my brain doesn0t like ammo pick ups when others could use it

[terse idol]

Infil is pretty easy when I just run mostly right side with movement speed aura

[untold mulch]

aslo

shredder nade

Gib

[terse idol]

You are an "other" gotta take em tins

[nimble sentinel]

valid, I just bite the bullet and take running speed

[tiny summit]

I see infil mostly as pure reposition and objectives. Whereas exe and voc kinda just send it

[untold mulch]

Infil allows me to be stupid aggresive

[terse idol]

Infil just let's me take the de-agro and cqc to get free easy dps

[untold mulch]

Like gunner line in cover?

Infil

[idle carbon]

emphasis on the "stupid" to extract yourself out of the inevitably bad situation lol

[untold mulch]

run back to them

shoot their backs

come back to team

[nimble sentinel]

infil lets me fully immerse myself in my new life emigrating to London

[untold mulch]

https://media.tenor.com/kU64qbPP5CYAAAAM/cyberpunk2077-edgerunners.gif

The feel

[terse idol]

In anycase I'm gonna say the funny but VOC is, meh with lasgun, until exe is better like

Man we really are just suffering

[untold mulch]

I am barely logging on anymore

[tiny summit]

It's satisfying to infil and backstab an entire gunner line or shotgun party. But also plasma could've solved the issue in like 3 shots down the hall

[untold mulch]

I am tired boss

[terse idol]

I guess meh is the wrong word because I guess you can get resets

But voc is fuucked

[bleak bolt]

VoC = simplest, buffs party - with right perks, can proc freq
Infil = clutches, revives, boss dmg
Exec = elite/spc hunting, shared team awareness (if you have that one perk - which i dont run that lol)

[nimble sentinel]

we don't wanna admit it but exe needs the toughness damage reduction returned to it

[tiny summit]

Wonder how long it'd take to install tekken 8 on hotel wifi

[nimble sentinel]

I don't just miss brambo builds I swear

[tiny summit]

It really doesnt

[bleak bolt]

exec prob weakest if not supported properly - because you're trying to focus done specific targets while team handles horde

[tiny summit]

It will do nothing to its viability

[rigid whale]

exec can be run selfishly, and that's personally how I run it, but I think building for pure damage every once in a while is fine

[untold mulch]

I want to admit it

[nimble sentinel]

we need SOMETHING to incentivize relentless

[bleak bolt]

but why do we call it selfish when its job is to focus down dangerous enemies that would bother teammates

[tiny summit]

You're popping exe. You can be near impenetrable with toughness with ET, CK, Catch Breath, Iron Will

[reef thorn]

exe is the worst ult in the game, full stop no exceptions

[nimble sentinel]

toughness damage reduction brings back sly marbo with an agri brauto

[reef thorn]

it needs way more than just toughness reduction

[bleak bolt]

however - it loses viability on harder diffs

when compared to voc

VoC > Infil > Exec - if we're taking viability at higher diffs

[tiny summit]

Toughness reduction on Exe will do nothing that it doesn't allow me to already do

[terse idol]

I'm not calling it selfish I'm just blasting beefcakes abiit

Because he called it selfish

ALL BUILDS in darktide are inherently selfish

Bar 2

[nimble sentinel]

I mean, yeah?

[terse idol]

VoC, chorus, taunt

[nimble sentinel]

the safest buff

[reef thorn]

he said he runs it selfish, not that exe itself is selfish

[bleak bolt]

lol if anyone is selfish - it's Ogryn who blocks my headshots when i pop exec

[untold mulch]

Exec Stance pop is Ogryn summoner

[terse idol]

He said he runs VOC and Focus target because it's team based

And exe and MF is selfish

[tiny summit]

I am clicking heads in Exe. I am having ET stacks. I am killing elites/specials. I am having CK stacks. I have Iron Will. Things tickle me as CK brings it back to full

[terse idol]

Like my brother

Voc was a mistake I gotta bare repeating

[bleak bolt]

VoC too good

but fatshark didn't see that

[terse idol]

I think they did

Hence why it got nerfed

But not enouugh

[untold mulch]

After getting buffed

to back to normal

[terse idol]

Yeah

[tiny summit]

Toughness DR on Exe will do nothing for the ability in comparison to VoC AoE stun, over Toughness, very frequent uptime because of special volume in aurics.

[terse idol]

I would certainly hate to be a balance Designer rn

[bleak bolt]

on maelstrom - 30% ult cooldown decrease - perk to remove 6 secs on spc kill

near constant VoC

[terse idol]

Exe also has the problem that it just turns off

[bleak bolt]

with plasma

[untold mulch]

Mf could work on the Recon

[bleak bolt]

gg ez

[terse idol]

When you swap off ranged

Like what the fuck

[tiny summit]

One of the most useless abilities against a monstrosity unless running bolter or cowboy revolver

[reef thorn]

• curio cdr + psyker cdr aura literally making it like 2 specials to ult again

[bleak bolt]

could be useful with crit spot via plasma gun

but.. why not just use VoC lolol

[untold mulch]

probably also teaches bad habit to newbies by being penalized to go melee

so... shoot into melee

[terse idol]

But again

Just run Focus target

For 32%

[bleak bolt]

or that

[terse idol]

For your entire team

And you

[untold mulch]

mhmm

[terse idol]

Exe and MF is fucked

[untold mulch]

Left tree is a mess

[bleak bolt]

exec stance got outclassed by the new perks

[untold mulch]

made by someone who doesn't play FPS

[reef thorn]

MF is good but not on the right weapons

[bleak bolt]

so likely getting a rework.. whenever FS decides to reveal their secret project since xmas

or maybe not

lol

[terse idol]

Oh my gpd you're right

Exe is a problem that it's just designed off old principles before the tree

[tiny summit]

Yep. I like Exe. Exe MF Helbore is my favorite build to run. I find personal satisfaction in lighting up the room full of targets to shoot and keep the ability up as long as possible. But that 20% extra dmg and weakspot dmg on their own for 5s at base is very underwhelming.

[bleak bolt]

yeah cuz when they did the class rework - vet tree was scuffed, then when they got it working well enough - exec stance is just.. outdated

[jaunty fiber]

psykers often sya this about brain burst too actually.

It makes sense

[bleak bolt]

well with that one perk that keeps it up on weakspot kill, then it last five-ever

IF you hit your shots lol

but Ogryn

[terse idol]

Problematically too, the extra damage on regular gunners is overkill

[wispy hinge]

I've never been a huge fan of helbore personally, takes too long to charge when a revolver does the same faster

[terse idol]

But thats how ypu get resets

[bleak bolt]

helbore tho - it does so much, exec is kinda overkill yeah

[rigid whale]

i'm a graia exec user now

[bleak bolt]

i can one shot reapers

[terse idol]

Even on a regular lasgun

[bleak bolt]

like

holy

lol

[terse idol]

I run the Ia or the 12

[rigid whale]

no such thing as overkill when i have more bullets to shoot

[jaunty fiber]

I need to try the helbore again

I couldn't vibe with it but that was whie I was leveling

[bleak bolt]

people give it crap and honeslty the mk1 and 3 are doo doo

mk 2 tho

[terse idol]

Math wise exe just doesn't wooork

The more I think about it the more it burns

[tiny summit]

It just needs to be a kill. That's also a problem. Exe doesn't feel like a complete skill for most weapons unless you have refresh because it's base duration is dogwater.

[rigid whale]

meanwhile marksman's focus gives you like, 75%

[tiny summit]

You can refresh exe with helbore bayonet off riflemen in front of you

[terse idol]

Yeah and MF doesn't matter thst much because you'll still be hitting the same BP"#

[bleak bolt]

agreed - its weaknesses are also highlighted when horde hits and you get busy

[wispy hinge]

I think its good on automatic weapons, however the lack of voice of command and all its benefits really hurts

[bleak bolt]

there's nothing to give breathing room

[rigid whale]

darktide fixed the breakpoint problem: they made every gun one-shot

[bleak bolt]

for someone who needs space to get the most out of exec

[terse idol]

Its excellent on automatic weapons and that's the problem

[agile forge]

Question about rashad axe

[terse idol]

I talked with Plush with this for 3 days

[nimble sentinel]

this is why I want teh return of toughness DR

[agile forge]

what breakpoints do I need to reach for it to be good?

I have one at 76 damage, 80 penetration, 80 first target, 80 finesse

[tiny summit]

The extra dmg can be nice if the enemies take stray shots from teammates and you miss their head slightly

[terse idol]

Minimum 70 in all damage stats
Brutal momentum

[untold mulch]

For a marksman path,

for some reason half of it looks like its for a gunner path, but with marksman gimmicks

[terse idol]

And headtaker or Thrust

[rigid whale]

exec would be nice if it buffed reload at all so i could continue my rampage more easily

[terse idol]

And unarmouredd

As 1 perk

I don't remeber the 2nd perk

[agile forge]

it needs headtaker or thrust? Mine has shred

[bleak bolt]

it just needs a rework

its an old feature in a new system

[agile forge]

Mine is flak and elites

[terse idol]

You need BM but headtaker or thrust works

[agile forge]

elites locked

[bleak bolt]

less rewarding than the newer ones

[terse idol]

You need unarmoured

[tiny summit]

I don't even see it as "space". Work on positioning and its rarely an actual issue.

[terse idol]

Instead of flak

[agile forge]

unarmoured is more important, ok

[terse idol]

To cleave scab bruisers

[rigid whale]

i did like the idea someone suggested of exec having a really short cooldown so it'd be more of just a fast weapon swap

[terse idol]

With BM

[rigid whale]

would make it work well with wep specialist

[wispy hinge]

That would be fantastic

[agile forge]

yeah, I was finding when I was getting certain melee enemies I was just getting stopped

[bleak bolt]

true but its circumstantial - which the other two ults dont really care, just hit the button

[terse idol]

Yeah

[agile forge]

brutal momentum is kinda shit design imo

[terse idol]

BM and Unarmoured is gonna save you

[bleak bolt]

and my opinion is based on the fact that lasgun+exec is my fave class

[agile forge]

hit a breakpoint, it's god tier

don't, and it's just shit

[celest vine]

BM works on the Mk6 and a combat axe

Oh and ogryn shield

[tiny summit]

Won't do anything for it again. If you're exe you have multiple sources of loads of toughness regen with iron will on top. Literally would just be "ok cool but this does nothing"

[junior needle]

spawns silent poxwalkers behind you throughout the mission

[rigid whale]

i use exec stance, marksman's focus, the graia IAG, and a shovel. i'm the most basic soldier of all time

[junior needle]

Nuthin personnal

[terse idol]

From Azreal

[rigid whale]

barely more brain than an ogryn. all headshots are just bonuses

[bleak bolt]

it allows my go to rashad to cleave through hordes while also being good enough to down maulers and crushers

[terse idol]

Thats 4 brusier stack

[rigid whale]

brutal momentum?

[terse idol]

This is why you run unarmoured BM

[agile forge]

I just don't like how it's so binary

[terse idol]

Unarmoured AND BM

[rigid whale]

dang

[agile forge]

I accept how incredibly strong it is

[celest vine]

Three melees benifit hard

[agile forge]

but that's part of the problem you know

[junior needle]

He didn't say it was shit, just that the design is

[bleak bolt]

yeah when i go right side of tree - rashad be slappin

[junior needle]

Of which I'm not a fan of the design either

[bleak bolt]

true but what else would you use is my point

they nerfed it

it used to be MUCH better

[terse idol]

Corners are so scary vs pox bursters

[bleak bolt]

but now you need a weakspot kill to proc it

[soft blade]

[bleak bolt]

which.. rashad can do it on trash mob

[tiny summit]

Yea. BM being kinda mando on caxes makes it feel like shit

[agile forge]

if you're above a damage threshold it's not even a nerf

[soft blade]

surprise corner bursters are always fun

[white minnow]

more of a sidegrade

new BM is more DPS if you hit the breakpoints

[terse idol]

Literally the difference between Shit tier Caxes

[junior needle]

Cleave on certain weapons being entirely locked behind a blessing and also being able to one shot things isn't exactly a healthy design

[white minnow]

old BM was stagger

[terse idol]

And S tier

[agile forge]

that's my problem, I don't like mandatory blessings

[white minnow]

it's basically sunder vs new BM on the psword

[agile forge]

like, best blessings, fine

blessings that are necessary to make the weapon even functional

is dogshit

power cycler is up there too

[bleak bolt]

no disagreement there but - its what we got to work with for now, so we make it work

[celest vine]

Infantry lasgun has two mandatory blessings

Headhunter deadly accurate

[agile forge]

I don't know infantry lasguns atm

[bleak bolt]

i thought those were the only two blessings for them?

lol

[junior needle]

Don't think anyone disagrees there, we're just griping about questionable fatshark design decisions

[celest vine]

Yes they are

💀

[tiny summit]

With the scuffed audio it definitely sounded a lot farther when it happened

[celest vine]

The other ones arent real

[rigid whale]

shovel requires no blessings. glory be to the shovel

[terse idol]

No it does

[bleak bolt]

my bad - so it's the mk1 that's good, not 2/3

[tiny summit]

Eh. Ghost is kinda neat too

[bleak bolt]

helbore*

[terse idol]

Skull crusher decimator

Or uncanny

[terse idol]

Shovel needs blessings too

[bleak bolt]

here's the rashad

[nimble sentinel]

I'm a big fan of the 2 though I think the whole range is very well balanced. 3 has the worst bayonet but the best shooting potential, 2 is a high damage spammer

[terse idol]

🥹

[tiny summit]

All helbores are good helbores. 1 of them just has a shitty Civil War readying bayonet

[terse idol]

Ya need unarmoured

For vet

For zealot you can cleave scab brusiers

But unarmoured is mandatory

[bleak bolt]

its got me thru many auric damn missions and hm twins - but ill try it

i just feel it's a "waste" but prob not

[terse idol]

Yeah

It just makes horde clear brain dead

[bleak bolt]

ah

[terse idol]

Like, azreal put it

Its the difference between taking time to kill 1 scab brusier

Or cleaving 4

[rigid whale]

what would you change then

[terse idol]

And killing them all instantly

[bleak bolt]

yeah i see now - i personally wanna bring down carapace boys quick, esp if they're that close lmao

i can handle trash mobs

[rigid whale]

just make the blessing give some cleave on weakspots instead of infinite?

[bleak bolt]

it's knowing how to move that clears those

[crude fiber]

I like the mk3 helbor with marksman for silly damage to P ogryns and beasts. Otherwise I'd say 1 is definitely better

[terse idol]

Oh boy when you change it to unarmoured

You can sleep and handle it

[bleak bolt]

alright alright - ill try it lol

[crude fiber]

Melee build vet with a good combat ax is literally powersword at home

[tiny summit]

Gonna build a mk3, play Exe MF and tap fire for all the small fry and upload it

[crude fiber]

Without the charge up spam

[bleak bolt]

and with a good shottie - chefs kiss

[junior needle]

You need unarmored for dreg bruiser breakpoints

If you don't one shot, your cleave stops

[crude fiber]

Honestly haven't tried either of the shotguns besides agripina

[bleak bolt]

yeah i have noticed that with those guys specifically

[crude fiber]

Aren't they mostly for meme crit builds?

[tiny summit]

Shotguns...still don't feel good to me

[bleak bolt]

they work - i found a build on lantern that was actually fun to use and viable

[tiny summit]

I like the special ammo for them but not their normal fire

[bleak bolt]

i just wouldn't run it on maelstrom

[crude fiber]

Slug shotgun is revolver with twice the shots imo, really good

[tiny summit]

Feel like there's a lacking "oomph" to them that the kickback and ripper guns provide

[bleak bolt]

this is also why i like to come here and chat cuz you guys always bring up stuff i dont think about

then make me spend plasteel that i dont have lmao

[nimble sentinel]

the benefit of our class being where the sweats go lol

[tiny summit]

Pull the lever. No balls

[rigid whale]

this is why they should be pump action

[bleak bolt]

they're visually underwhelming - so y eah i get that lack of "oomph"

[rigid whale]

slug shotgun is my fav rn

[bleak bolt]

shhh the zealots might hear you

[nimble sentinel]

zealots are shitposters and I love them for it

[crude fiber]

The lawbringer special shot sounds awesome

[tiny summit]

What no balls does and wastes your time with

[nimble sentinel]

ogryns are the rolepalyers

no idea what the psykers are

[bleak bolt]

the silent gigachads

[crude fiber]

Headpops in 2 charges lol

[zealous wyvern]

i just realised that the krieg psyker has a thicker respirator bag than the veteran

[bleak bolt]

psykers i run into at higher levels are just on anothe rplane of existence sometimes

[zealous wyvern]

[tiny summit]

3-4 actually with both peril nodes

[bleak bolt]

they're either really really good

or they're turning into a hel-spawn and we have to purge them lol

[crude fiber]

Psykers take no damage until they take all the damage and go down

[tiny summit]

It's criminal what they did to your baggy

[bleak bolt]

[nimble sentinel]

I had an auric with a psyker so skill issued they got successfully kicked out the match

[zealous wyvern]

maybe they are too scared of changing the psykers gear

[tiny summit]

Been seeing a concerning number of max wound psykers in my aurics

[zealous wyvern]

headgo

boom

[nimble sentinel]

I like to believe in-lore they had a very unfortunate accident with one of my grenades

[bleak bolt]

my psyker ❤️

[zealous wyvern]

hmmm

classy

suspiciously classy

where did you steal that from?

[bleak bolt]

you.. maybe?

[frank ether]

its like a self flag

[zealous wyvern]

i only have one uniform on my psyker and it is the krieg gear

so i dont mind

[bleak bolt]

psykers have the least amount of options i like personally

[zealous wyvern]

veteran for me

[bleak bolt]

but i found this set - some of it is at the store

[zealous wyvern]

i dislike most veteran gear

so much boring civilian clutter

[bleak bolt]

this too which is a shame cuz i mean.. there's so much art on the Guard - how the frick do you not have anything Guard related

FS PLZ

[tiny summit]

Had one game where the psyker popped and dc'd before his knees touched the ground

[nimble sentinel]

I yearn for hyper-realistic veteran skins

[fresh grail]

The quickest alt-f4 in the west

[bleak bolt]

well outside of Krieg and Steel Legion

but that's pumpkin spice latte at this point

give me my Tanith

Elysian dudes

Valhallan

Tallarn (which kinda is in there)

Catachan too - a little anyways but need the rambo bandanas and no shirt lmao

[nimble sentinel]

I'd kill for a camo cape

[bleak bolt]

that'd be sick

new perk on the tree

[frank ether]

[wispy hinge]

I just want my full scion set

[nimble sentinel]

virgin atlantic killed my steam deck for the holidays so I spent em reading gaunt's ghosts and I am very much all for tanith gear

[bleak bolt]

thats as close as i can get it

[atomic zephyr]

volpone bluebloods might be neat

[balmy flume]

I have my Green drip all sorted and am happy enough

[bleak bolt]

Lucifer blacks

[zealous wyvern]

it is as close as you can get right now

yeah

but not close enough

[wispy hinge]

Ita a good attempt but we all know we need the full blue suit

[tiny summit]

I remember coming across a site that made middle finger and hairy balls irons

[bleak bolt]

man can you imagine - an army painter in darktide

just like in Dawn of war

[wispy hinge]

5 dollars for blue

[bleak bolt]

but better

[bleak bolt]

this sent me 🤣

[balmy flume]

Warframe people know the pain

Of having to pay Plat

For colour palettes.

[tiny summit]

Sell prime shit stupid

[raw steppe]

welcome to f2p game

[tiny summit]

I sold flow for pennies

[balmy flume]

Oh I wasn’t complaining for real XD

[raw steppe]

how is warframe now btw

i think last time i played was in 2017

[balmy flume]

Was more a response to the 5 USD for blue thing.

[tiny summit]

Good. I think. Idk

[balmy flume]

It got new content, new zone, plot actually advancing.

[raw steppe]

did the game play become any more interesting

or is it still just

[tiny summit]

I've been on my longest break atm. Was at deimos and I was like "this is just Plains of Eidolon 3.0"

[raw steppe]

power fantasy

one-shot everything

[zealous wyvern]

it is very interesting

[raw steppe]

and grind

[zealous wyvern]

play more

[terse idol]

I mean if that's what you're feeling take a breather

[tiny summit]

The plot is making me want to come back

[zealous wyvern]

hmmm

[terse idol]

One shot everything is just how all tide games played

You build for BP's

[balmy flume]

I would say “plot worth doing, but otherwise outside of quest advancement is kinda still the same-ish”

The new zone also makes a lot of grinding easier.

[nimble sentinel]

MG IV with shock trooper and survivalist, kill everything in -5 shots

[balmy flume]

A lot of the Eidolon only drop stuff, you can get in the new zone now

[tiny summit]

Exe MF Graia has been fun. Want a Agri IAG next

[balmy flume]

I am Agri IAG addict

Thing rocks if tuned right.

[frank ether]

this is like

every single vet with the mask

[tiny summit]

Neat. Dunno how I can come back to Warframe with fighting games, Darktide and 5 gachas

[frank ether]

and its getting on my nerves because I like the green guard drip

and now everyone is wearing it

[tiny summit]

So called free thinkers when scion helmet drops

[frank ether]

they should just release the rest of the damn set already

so all the whales can wear their full set

[balmy flume]

I get what you mean, I generally just rotate between Genshin/Warframe/Darktide/Rogue Trader/CivBE at random

[bleak bolt]

ufnortunately - its all we got lolol

now we have clone troopers

[frank ether]

I guess its still not as disappointing as krieg set

[balmy flume]

You mean we have 2 sets of Clone troopers.
The Death Korps and the Scion mask dudes.

[frank ether]

at least the mask doesnt look like a sock this time around lmao

[tiny summit]

I really need to play Dead Space Remake

[terse idol]

Just use the Ia

[raw steppe]

how the fuck do you afford

5 gachas

lmao

[terse idol]

Kill everything regular in 3 shots

Or gunners in 1

😌

[strange grove]

Agri shotgun slugs are becoming my fav thing

[tiny summit]

But MG4 spam funny

[bleak bolt]

whats disappointing is that they sell "Cadian" armor but it aint.. Cadian armor

[strange grove]

LOL, did you hog all the ammo?

[tiny summit]

This was my first game with full auto and just holding down the triggee

[bleak bolt]

also where my kasrkin love at in the shop:

[tiny summit]

I only picked up ammo if someone didnt

[strange grove]

Oh hi master chief

[bleak bolt]

also where goggles and rebreather - ie, full helmet kit

[balmy flume]

The even sadder thing is, the free armour we get also already resembles actual Cadian (grunt) armour from table top…wihtout a set with actual Cadian colours.

[nimble sentinel]

nah I like destroying my finger tendons

[bleak bolt]

so much potential wasted

cuz i will throw money at my screen for good drip

[strange grove]

What’s best keystone with mk4 lasgun? Focus?

[nimble sentinel]

but for real Ia and IV have the same DPS, IV gives me the fire rate to shoot the hordes tho

[balmy flume]

The Scion helmet and the current Chainsword skin finally lured me into throwing money for drip. Helps that UK prices are reasonable.

[tall torrent]

1a is a little higher

[nimble sentinel]

and I will shoot the hordes no matter what you nerds say, I go overkill on my ammo economy just so I can shoot the hordes

[nimble sentinel]

ah I thought they were the same, I still prefer the spam potential and ADS mobility tho

[tiny summit]

MF I am very serious

[frank ether]

still feel like a gun with mg4's rof shouldnt be semi auto lmao

[strange grove]

Would marksman focus work on mg4? Plant yourself and pewpew everything?

[balmy flume]

I will not fault you for shooting hordes, but I will argue IAG is better for horde mowing. Solid slugs can “brute force” their way to that one trapper hiding in the horde. Las rounds cannot.

[tall torrent]

MG4 is best for its ads move speed

[tiny summit]

No but FT is just dummy value

[strange grove]

lol thinking the same thing

[tiny summit]

It does

[frank ether]

MF is ok for MG4

[nimble sentinel]

this is true but you will run out of bullets, I literally gain ammo after shooting into hordes with elites mixed in

[frank ether]

It shoots fast enough