veteran-class

[frank ether]

it makes executioner playable for me

[neat stratus]

And the range

[soft blade]

aldi brand custodes

[neat stratus]

And the speed

[frank ether]

also it will basically have infinite ammo

if you have the ammo talents

[neat stratus]

I always wanted this thing to have a functional bayonet, I hope they don't ruin this too much

[frank ether]

hard to say they nerfed weapons for less before

[neat stratus]

Oh my god I forgot you could charge it

[frank ether]

but they spared it

last patch

when it was OP

they just patched the limbsplitter interaction

its still kinda busted attack speed wise

[junior needle]

Helbore is a dev favorite gun, only allowed to be good and get buffs

[rigid whale]

helbore is nice if you an aim. i can't

[frank ether]

that dev is based

[neat stratus]

I would be fine if they made it just a little worse, but it should still do enough to one shot horde enemies just because thats funny

[frank ether]

but I have a feeling the same dev probably also hates r*con

which is also based

[neat stratus]

"BACK FOUL BEASTS, BACK"

[junior needle]

Recons are only hateable because they're shit

[frank ether]

honestly I hated them more when it was good

[placid portal]

I never knew they existed

[broken crag]

real af

[placid portal]

you don't need aim

You need faith in empra

[frank ether]

it became this abomination that took even less brain cells than brauto for a short while

[neat stratus]

I can do 2431 damage with a charge bayonet attack crit

[placid portal]

a literal las hose

[neat stratus]

I was around since the bayonet only did 100 damage

[placid portal]

Same

Funny shit

[junior needle]

When you see people having fun in the wrong way (they aren't even using the strongest gun)

[frank ether]

honestly I'd prefer if it was like just a beam of las lmao

which it practically kinda is

[placid portal]

ye

[junior needle]

Beam would be sick honestly

[placid portal]

but unfortunately recon is a garden hose in a power wash job

[frank ether]

but like kinda reminds me of the funny beam gun in boomer shooters

[placid portal]

[neat stratus]

Honestly they should make the MkIII bayonet do the damage of the MkI and MkII bayonet, but make the MkI and MkII a bit less effective so a bayonet isn't just as effective as a close range charge attack

I'm absolutely not opposed to a good bayonet, but this is a tad too much lmfao

[frank ether]

before anything mk3 bayo needs some animation polish

[placid portal]

^^^

[frank ether]

It just needs a little bit of love

not a lot

just a tad

[placid portal]

This is #1 fix I am getting strain every time I see the animation

[neat stratus]

Yep, gotta make it faster and such

Maybe give it a bit of cleave too

[frank ether]

its uh, you're supposed to charge the hb3 bayo is the thing

[neat stratus]

Oh damn you are?

[rigid whale]

i would only like this if it sounded like the laer from wolfenstein

[frank ether]

I think its just not a very satisfying hit for the charge

[neat stratus]

I forgot they could charge ngl

[frank ether]

like it still doesnt do much damage

[placid portal]

As if mk3 has benefit from Thrust

[frank ether]

and its head prio is poor

[neat stratus]

Anyways the charged hit should hit like a truck, and cleave heads off

[rigid whale]

https://youtu.be/DRaShgVyz5U?si=UU4UeIuBWktI7dm_&t=16

like what the hell is stopping them from doing this

[placid portal]

Don't they literally have that in WH?

[junior needle]

That's more of a lascannon

[frank ether]

It can cleave the most basic enemies if you have a melee with brutal momentum

[frank ether]

honestly I'd take it

[neat stratus]

I mean like by default, and like 3 enemies

[frank ether]

I think its a tad weird that a charged strikedown does so little damage/stagger

[placid portal]

give mk3 a kick special animation like the sniper

[frank ether]

lmao

ayo

[placid portal]

then follow up to bayonet

[frank ether]

I think the problem with that idea is well

people want to use bayo to avoid weapon swap

[neat stratus]

You know what they should actually do?

[placid portal]

true...

[frank ether]

so if its constant kick-bayo-kick-bayo it will lose by default again

[neat stratus]

Make the bayonet stick into a target, then allow for a shot that deals huge damage

[placid portal]

The most easy and done way is to make it thrust instead

[neat stratus]

That way the main damage is done by the thing that uses ammo, and not just thrusting that knife on a stick

[frank ether]

that'd work lol

I'm just not against it having a different attack

[neat stratus]

The fact that current bayonet literally almost works better than the Tacaxes at horde clear is just nasty

[placid portal]

which is the easy solution

[frank ether]

tac axes are garbage

[placid portal]

tac axe need something special

[neat stratus]

Affix bayonets is actually a good call in this game

[frank ether]

and what makes hb bayo broken is the attack speed

[neat stratus]

Honestly give every gun in the game a bayonet, even staves

[placid portal]

tried using it but feels a tad weird and felt like I rather use knife

[junior needle]

Kinda redundant given how good helbores are at hard target busting already

[low kelp]

Whats the best range gun, besides plasma, for general ranged heavy popping gunners/specials gameplay? I've tried revolver but the reload feels to long for exe stance. I know helbore is good but there's so many variants and don't know which I should use.

[cerulean void]

it has something special, it's called Brutal Momentum

[placid portal]

meh

[frank ether]

they could give tac axe knife mobility and it would still be rather meh

[neat stratus]

Thats true but it feels cool

[placid portal]

pathetic melee range

[frank ether]

actually that might be a way to elevate tacaxe

[junior needle]

Tac axe movesets kinda blow for brutal use

[frank ether]

just give it knife style mobility

maybe

[junior needle]

Goofy moveset

[frank ether]

yea

I like wombat axe tho

antax is fun

not even rashad

just antax

[neat stratus]

You can run while charging the bayonet

[junior needle]

Also uh

Do any tac axe lights hit bruiser breakpoints

[neat stratus]

That should do big damage while a stationary one should do less

[junior needle]

On horizontals or diagonals

[low kelp]

So uh, which helbore is the meta one?

[junior needle]

1/2

Because good bayonet

[low kelp]

Ok ignoring the bayonet exploit

[frank ether]

its an essential part of the weapon

[low kelp]

For shooting

[junior needle]

All are good with different functions

[frank ether]

and the answer is still 1/2 for shooting

since they one shot most practical enemies

[junior needle]

3 is more like a worse plasma gun because plasma is busted right now

[cerulean void]

the hellbores themselves are just superior ILGs with a dummy thicc draw

[junior needle]

1/2 are more like infantry lasguns

[neat stratus]

^Bayonet is essential to helbore, so it should never be nerfed back to a point where its horrible, although it should do a bit worse than it does right now

Back when it hardly did any damage it felt more like decoration than anything

That was bad, but so is current bayo for the game's health

[frank ether]

just slow down stabby bayo attack speed a bit

and done

solved

[neat stratus]

Thats actually arguably the best solution

Bayonets should hit hard, not fast

[low kelp]

I just want to play a vet build using an actual gun. Been using plasma for so long and don't own any other guns lmao

[neat stratus]

And definitely not both

[cerulean void]

they're a panic thing, it's dumb that it can be mainlined

[upbeat geyser]

How is this as a vet build. You can't have everything. I would love bring it down but can't afford it. My notion is sometimes you have to mash with melee but most of the time you want to shoot your gun so only need like 2 stacks, aka 2 melee kills, for weapon specilist to fully kick in. I think everything once you take shout and duty an honour is kind of optional to an extent

[neat stratus]

Whats a panic thing? Bayonet?

[frank ether]

ILGs require zero brain cells to operate

I dont think thats a bad thing either

[neat stratus]

You know what would be a big brain move?

[frank ether]

thats lore accurate

[neat stratus]

What if they made the bayonet even stronger, but gave the weapon a garbage ammo economy?

[frank ether]

why lmao

[neat stratus]

That way shooting it is literally an afterthought

[frank ether]

helbore is like

[cerulean void]

that's just

[frank ether]

almost perfectly fine

[cerulean void]

melee with extra steps

[neat stratus]

Im kidding

[neat stratus]

Yeah, its not necessarily broken, if a little overtuned

[frank ether]

outside of like

bayo attack speed

its fine

it doesnt cleave through 5 enemies

[neat stratus]

Yeah thats what I think tbh

[frank ether]

doesnt shoot through walls

has a lengthy draw

doesnt shoot ogryn sized bullet magnetized projectiles

[neat stratus]

The bayo doesn't replace your melee even as is, it doesn't one shot literally everything, all it needs is to hit slower so its less of a forethought to use

[cerulean void]

*on repeat stabs

[neat stratus]

Like your instinct shouldn't be "Oh there's 12 ragers, time to use my bayonet for every single one"

[neat stratus]

I mean like a lower stab rate yeah

But I gotta say I love bayonets and helbores, and having them both be great is like a dream come true

I used this bayo before it was good just because I liked it

[frank ether]

Its not a problem

I dont think it will see any big changes

[neat stratus]

yeah tbf it might be overblown just how good it is, it's not like it'll win the game

I would still use a power sword to take out anything that isn't a joke

[bitter turtle]

dont take away my gunsword

[neat stratus]

And I wouldnt just flat out bayonet charrge everything I see

[frank ether]

Most of the clips are from back when it had limbsplitter interaction

[bitter turtle]

i literally play it like im squall

[frank ether]

on builds that are practically melee veteran

[bitter turtle]

melee heavy while shooting to proc agile engagement or enemies out of bayonet reach

[neat stratus]

Death Korps of Krieg build is finally pretty much the meta

#ShovelOnTop

[frank ether]

agile working on helbore is based

[bitter turtle]

also the bayonet cant push

[neat stratus]

Shovel to deny groups of enemies, bayonet to actually kill them

[bitter turtle]

so it has a weakness ok

[frank ether]

it cant block either

[neat stratus]

^ Especially that, you are definitely not horde clearing very well with this

[bitter turtle]

it horde clears fine

but when you need to swap to push a burster

its actually a significant weakness

since the swap back

helbore swap

lul

got that awkward animation

[neat stratus]

I mean you aren't gonna want to go zealot, run up with the bayonet using the special ability and just clean house

[bitter turtle]

but that's what I do

[neat stratus]

I still prefer chainswords, power swords, and shovels for large groups

[neat stratus]

Just because it works doesn't mean its optimal is what Im saying here

[bitter turtle]

i think its

honestly

fairly optimal

u have BM on it

and you can screen drag

[neat stratus]

It doesn't cleave 889 enemies like the psword tbf

[bitter turtle]

the dmg is really high so it is easy to oneshot

most trash

and hitting weakpoints is trivial with it

the main weakness of bayonet as a weapon is carapace

which is another sacrifice u have to make

bring krak ora have to swap weapons to your other melee

which sucks because of swap speed

bringing krak also sucks because its not shredder

[neat stratus]

BM isn't really a thought for me since I think thats more a bug and not an intentional feature

But yeah that synergy is crazy

I like a good bayonet though

Could use an attack speed nerf if anything

I think its funny how a noncrit bayonet does more to a mutant than a crit charged shot tho

[bitter turtle]

i dont think it should be nerfed

unironically

not even the BM part

at least it has a weakness as a melee

[neat stratus]

Really?

[bitter turtle]

unlike some weapons

what's the weakness of rashad or psword

[neat stratus]

I guess you're right, its hard to use it right if there's enough pressuring you

[bitter turtle]

and those actually work with wep specialist

unlike bayo

[neat stratus]

Imo the psword's only weakness is getting charged, and even then that disappears by blocking

Not like its braindead entirely but the bayonet is still god damn when its used right

[bitter turtle]

im just saying

gunsword build should stay :^)

[neat stratus]

I think so too, I just worry for the other weapons

[bitter turtle]

the only weapon bayonet pushes out is the shitteir bayonet

[neat stratus]

Then again the Lucius isn't the greatest as a gun (less damage than some weapons that don't need to charge, meaning you'll take longer to kill the same things with not a whole lot of benefits to doing so), I guess it's best to have that sort of yin-yang playstyle where you can't do well if you don't use both the bayonet and the gun

My main issue with the lucius was that people kept killing things before I could charge

Then again, MkIII issues

[bitter turtle]

like

unironically

stab into shoot is faster than double stab

so a lot of enemies

u stab shoot

like agunsword

its cool

its fun

dont take it away 😔

[serene bough]

hadron doesnt agreee

[neat stratus]

^Thats true, I love that mechanic

[rigid whale]

i want a dual wield gun

[junior needle]

That would be mostly revolver and plasma at work

[bitter turtle]

even ciag could go untouched honestly imo

i think giag and aiag have enough benefits that its a legitimate choice

at least i stopped using ciag in favor of giag

[zenith sequoia]

anyone know what time commodores store refreshes

[polar kayak]

is it normal for Damnation runs to fail more than succeed?

[bitter turtle]

you can carry them eventually

you can technically solo even the hardest stuff (auric mael) so its just matter of how good you are at carrying

[timid otter]

Also a matter of equipment.

[junior needle]

Soloing is more about being familiar with how to cheese the map, and also picking the better weapons suited for the job.

I remember someone posted a duo gameplay and it consisted of running into a particular corner and hiding there while funneling everything into your melee range

[bitter turtle]

ye

i mean fo r sure

soloing is more about knowing how to run away and kite more than normal gameplay

[unreal bone]

what time does the shop reset

est?

[polar kayak]

quickplay x.x

[neat stratus]

Yeah now that I use it, the bayonet really is just a way for the helbore to be relevant as a quick killer, if not at a range

I still shoot anything that I cant stab so I think its not in the worst balancing place

Also this is a low rating for a purple

[somber axle]

Personally love Helbores because if I run empty on my gun and a dog appears I can just bayonet it in the face once and it dies without having to worry about dodge reload or dodge swap melee stab. Just go stab then reload when it is safe. It feels very versatile for quickly clearing shooters in a room by tapping heads and can pen Carapace well so it doesn't have the drawback that Kantrael does when a Crusher train shows up. It's not nearly as strong as Plasma but I love my flashlight and my bayonet.

[neat stratus]

yikes

[neat stratus]

I love the ability to just deny an elite's right to catch you lackin

[somber axle]

Also nice for killing that single poxwalker that snuck up behind you before going back to shooting specials/elites without delay or being forced to keep dodging

[neat stratus]

That too, you dont need to switch back and forth every 2 seconds

[somber axle]

I've had some fun moments where I bayoneted a mutie to death who caught a team mate before they could do a single slam

Plus bayonet charging into a gunner is really fun

[neat stratus]

Literal flashlight 💀

[somber axle]

Rip

Favoring the Mk 2 right now personally but I played with the Mk 3 a lot before too

Love the damage on the Mk 3 but bayonet swing is so much worse than bayonet stab

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/032de14e39eb53dec555747143d908ac.jpg

gunblade noises

[serene sage]

I can no longer tell if that's a helbore or laspistol

[somber axle]

Also fun for ammo economy. Running a Helbore with Shock Trooper and Surgical + Scavenger alone feels like you gain more ammo than you spend

[bitter turtle]

you know

i got this as a random drop

and went

[somber axle]

Have had ammo hungry teams vacuuming up all the ammo tins and never needed one because Helbore keeps itself fed

[bitter turtle]

"Wait, laspistol get HH? 🤔"

https://i.gyazo.com/1e31a3d9107dc37d988d560cedda1771.jpg

until i looked at it more carefully

[serene sage]

lmao

[serene sage]

I think there's like one person to blame for this tech heresy

[neat stratus]

Hadron might hate me

[junior needle]

Member when another gun line got gutted for being able to do something similar but worse than surgical helbores? I member.

[neat stratus]

Is no respite bad? I shouldve asked that first

[bitter turtle]

no respite is fine

it works on bayonet

[somber axle]

I took a long break so I never got to play with Recons when they had fun crits and Infernus

[neat stratus]

IT DOES, DOES IT?

[bitter turtle]

surg/onslaught is if you prefer more heavy gunplay though

[somber axle]

I wish I could have tho

[neat stratus]

[bitter turtle]

i run no respite/surg on my gun though

maybe no respite/onsluaght is better for mk1 though

im using mk2

[neat stratus]

And with the insane stagger of a lucius stab

[bitter turtle]

idk how slow mk1 charge is compared to mk2

[junior needle]

Patch 13 was the talent patch, I'm surprised you didn't play that one

[neat stratus]

Its roughly 75-80% as fast iirc

[junior needle]

Skipping surgical on any helbore

[somber axle]

I dropped a long time ago when Vets still had permanent executioner's stance standing in front of Reapers, Gunners and an entire map of shooters unloading into them without flinching

[bitter turtle]

idk some other dude did it with their helbore here

[somber axle]

I played when the talents were every 5 levels or something

[bitter turtle]

i run surgical still

[somber axle]

Camo was funny for standing still next to team mates and watching everything ignore you

[neat stratus]

Skipping surgical on helbore is like skipping the milk for your cereal

[bitter turtle]

i might be able to see it if you dont rely on criticals though

for anything

except crushers

[junior needle]

It's free ammo

[bitter turtle]

and just dont care about crushers

[neat stratus]

It still works, but its much less enjoyable

[bitter turtle]

i run fire team on my bayonet tree, i dont care about ammo

[serene sage]

you know, that feeling when you have 260+ games to play, not to mentioned emulators, DRM free stuff
and you still don't feel like playing any of them

[bitter turtle]

i'd run close and kill but that'd cost 1 more pt

[serene sage]

truly

[junior needle]

I don't remember what fire team does

[neat stratus]

Mods ruin games, I cant lie

[somber axle]

5% elite damage I think?

[bitter turtle]

5% dmg in general

elite dmg is on the psyker tree

[junior needle]

[neat stratus]

They make the game lose its magic 80% of the time, especially trainer mods

[somber axle]

Just leveled a Psyker to 30, mixing things up

[neat stratus]

Well, "trainer mods" that are really just permanent save editors

[serene sage]

friends who play fgs, is DNF Duel any good?

[bitter turtle]

no

its a kusoge

genuinely

everyone memes on it

[junior needle]

In this instance mods are fixing a boatload of qol issues that the devs refuse to do anything about and offload onto the community

[neat stratus]

Yeah and thats honestly a fine kind of mod

[serene sage]

understood at least the characters look nice ig

[bitter turtle]

if you dont mind

its a fun game to just mess around in

[neat stratus]

You know what, the bayonet really isn't that op in practice

[serene sage]

if I ever get into fgs, I would probably be one of them tri hards

[bitter turtle]

but js its a game where like half the cast have attacks that cover the entire screen width in reach and lead into combos

[neat stratus]

Still absurdly good but it doesn't overtake shooting most of the time imo

[junior needle]

If there were gameplay alteration mods allowed as a kind of alternate server, we'd have hellguns and better balancing too

[serene sage]

so i guess there is like strive?

[bitter turtle]

strive is an ok place to start

its an easy game

relatively compared to other fgs

some people dont like it bc of that but i think its fine to start with strive if you're new

UNIST is a game with solid fundamentals as well but its a smaller playerbase

[serene sage]

I am already sold on it, you don't have to convince me

[bitter turtle]

if you dont want an anime fighter, there's always sf6 lul

anime fighter is its own subgenre within 2d fighters

so i dont just mean the art

[serene sage]

I genuinely love GGS artstyle though

[bitter turtle]

ya that's fine

i dont mean the artstyle wh en i say anime fighters

anime fighters = stuff like air dashing and long combos

[serene sage]

ohh

[bitter turtle]

like sf6 has very short combos and grounded gameplay

you cant airdash either

that's why it wouldn't be called an anime fighter

[serene sage]

I see

[bitter turtle]

meanwhile something like Arcana Hearts is the epitome of an anime fighters, literal aerial combat at times and ridiculously long combos with difficult inputs

KoFXV is also a decent game

and tekken 8 is coming out soon if you want to try a 3d fighter

but out of all of the ones I've mentioned, i'd say Strive is the most beginner friendly

[serene sage]

unlikley haha, especially given tekken notoriety

a SF6 player called me the human equivalent of GG Strive

I still don't understand what that means

[jaunty fiber]

holy shit did I miss something???

[serene sage]

that depends?

[sharp ember]

you have really good music

[jaunty fiber]

I looked on my steam feed f the game nd here were......9???? Hotfixes today?

[bitter turtle]

like i said, people look down on GG ST nowadays

so he's just calling you casual trash or something idk

[serene sage]

she*

[bitter turtle]

she*

[sharp ember]

yeah thats a steam glitch, all except the latest one are old

[bitter turtle]

is calling you casual trash probably

lul

[serene sage]

but that sounds right

[jaunty fiber]

Oh I was very confused lmao

[serene sage]

still, a 5GB bug fix will def raise some eyebrows lmao

[sharp ember]

indeed

i haven’t heard anything new get dug up though

[lost epoch]

what're we thinking

[sharp ember]

I have faith in this shovel

[neat stratus]

Bayonet casually achieving 2000+ dps on a reaper

[lost epoch]

🙏

[neat stratus]

Very least I can say is that the gun itself does better

[bitter turtle]

looks solid enough

[lost epoch]

the perks are meh but they work

[bitter turtle]

stamina is a shame

but its not useless

[sharp ember]

certainly could be a lot worse

[tall torrent]

rashad is min-max nightmare and often requires significant melee dmg investment in talent tree
power sword takes a while to build a good one and has bad dodges

[serene sage]

this is bricked right guys

do you think I can clear malice wit it

[vernal harbor]

malice i don’t imagine why not

[idle carbon]

I just played BF2042 for the first time in like, 8 months
finally got reminded was good gunplay feels like - namely better recoil, and I can fire while going into and out of ADS

[tiny summit]

Isn't it great having a gun sights and recoil actually align?

[serene sage]

as in 2042 gunplay feels better than DT?

[tiny summit]

Yea

[idle carbon]

yes

[vernal harbor]

now darktide has its faults…

[serene sage]

oh nice

[tiny summit]

2042 kinda fun now

[idle carbon]

T1 on boris and dozer, fight me

[neat stratus]

Try sedition

[serene sage]

I see 😔

[finite imp]

Why are we still here

[tiny summit]

As is tradition with Battlefields as of late. Dogshit start. Pretty cool near its end

[finite imp]

Just to suffer

[tiny summit]

Because you didn't buy enough Wilson lootboxes

[neat stratus]

(definitely not the best roll I've seen)

[finite imp]

I'm gonna make them give us our past back

[idle carbon]

I have a very similar one, except with uncanny strike instead of decimator
actually, you could swap out thrust for uncanny and this would be 100% fine for damnation

[tiny summit]

How can you? They'll remove your past from storefronts and have end of service

Thrust good though for foldable

[finite imp]

I can still feel my arm...my leg...locked inside a loot box amongst hundreds of loot boxes

WOOOOOOOOAAAHHAAAAAAAAAUUUUGGGHHH

[idle carbon]

BF2042 recovered fairly nicely, though like BFV it did a faceplant on launch
I just hope the next battlefield game doesn't keep gunning for battle royale, and they drop the hero shooter aspect

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-anguish-venom-snake-scream-big-boss-gif-16644725

[idle carbon]

the gunplay though, I would absolutely kill for 2042's gunplay in darktide
just so much smoother and more enjoyable

[finite imp]

Make the next battlefield an open world crafting survival souls like with elements of jet skii surfing and surprise mechanics

[neat stratus]

No!

[idle carbon]

lol

[finite imp]

Jet skii hater in the chat

[neat stratus]

Make it like shadow of war

Nemesis system baybeee

[serene sage]

yeah I think jet skis are fun

why are we hating on jet skis

[finite imp]

You shoot someone in the face with a .50 and they just come back like HAH you thought that was enough to kill me???

[neat stratus]

I'm not, it's just not good unless it's like shadow of war too

[finite imp]

Okay so third person Arkham beat em up nemesis system with elements of jet skii surfing

[neat stratus]

Better yet you evaporate someone with a 75mm mortar and they're like "I KNEW IT WAS YOU, AND MY RAGE BROUGHT ME BACK TOGETHER"

[finite imp]

Also there's knock off Pokemon to collect

[junior needle]

You could tell it was fatsharks first time doing a shooter with the gun jank

[tiny summit]

Let's face it. It's gonna faceplant

[junior needle]

Knock off Pokémon fucks honestly

[finite imp]

This is how triple a devs operate. They write an apology letter before they even start making the game.

[junior needle]

Way better than actual Pokémon games

[finite imp]

Isn't it sad

This is what it's come to

[idle carbon]

oh, I have no doubt lol
that seems to be a pattern with most triple-A titles get in to :P
I hope to god I haven't just jinxed Helldivers 2...

[tiny summit]

Go CoD route. "I wasn't in that crosshair"

[neat stratus]

There's been one good pokemon game, and it's been remade every other year

[tiny summit]

Please god...please be good Helldiver 2

[finite imp]

This is only the 16th time general Shepard shoots you in the face

[tiny summit]

Please not run like ass and have decent amount of content and decent leveling experience

[serene sage]

x2 please oh god please be good

[finite imp]

Oh god oh please oh god oh please

[junior needle]

One of if not the most profitable franchise in the world, still resorts to making barebones game and the same money grubbing strategy of releasing two very slightly different versions at the same time

[serene sage]

my biggest concern looking at the trailer is the enemy variety

[finite imp]

Literally no better than madden

[neat stratus]

"Glad I wasn't that guy"

[serene sage]

all the bugs just seem so samey

I pray they are not

[neat stratus]

Every pokemon game is just a dlc of the first

[finite imp]

And what pisses me off the most was how the Pokemon fandom reacted. Someone comes a long and gives gamefreak a reason to give a fuck and they start a SMEAR campaign against pocketpair because how dare you fulfill a market demand on an entirely different platform

[idle carbon]

couldn't agree more lol
PLEASE don't fuck up the next coop game I want to play...

[finite imp]

"we love eating shit we don't want the games to get better"

[frank basin]

i heard microtransaction exist in there

read from ps5

[idle carbon]

eh, kind of hard to get away from these days

[finite imp]

They were like a dollar

Or 4

Idr

It was a bunch of small dlcs

In the first one at least

[idle carbon]

there's the bug faction and then the automotans, including definitely-not-a-dreadnought, so variety should be fine

[hybrid prawn]

Helldivers 2 is interesting but I'm not touching it because the drm

[serene sage]

what drm?

[finite imp]

What's the drm gonna do

[sharp ember]

literally bricked, give it to me i'll dispose of it

[idle carbon]

is it that denuvo crap

[serene sage]

im hype for it bc it's one of the few crossplay games

that m friend and I can enjoy

[hybrid prawn]

Anti cheat, they put kernel based one

[serene sage]

cause they only do console

[finite imp]

Finallyy fucking normies friends can play with me

[sharp ember]

oh hell yeah we talking about HD2

[serene sage]

my exact sentiment lmaoooo

[frank basin]

Not even starship trooper exterminate : (

[idle carbon]

we all weird here

[sharp ember]

i'm gonna wait for the day 1 reviews before i buy, i'm scared of it having an issue

[finite imp]

Fear not the foe

[idle carbon]

oh definitely, hold off on buying (or preordering) until the last second to make sure shit is working

[serene sage]

im hype for Spah Muhreens 2 as well

but that's not coming out until September

[idle carbon]

we all enjoying getting slapped with a year long delay huh lol

[serene sage]

my friends and I agree to wait 2 weeks after launch

before commiting to everyone getting a copy

so pelase don't suck Helldivers 2

[frank basin]

in future, ill missed some video game when i dies as old age

[idle carbon]

it's 40 USD, which is a fine price for a coop game these days, same as DT

[sharp ember]

the latest trailer looked pretty sick

[hybrid prawn]

Gollum 2

[idle carbon]

all fair, nothin wrong with that

[frank basin]

some video game that did impressed and have my interest.

so HellDiver 2 Feb 8 release

[idle carbon]

honestly, I can deal with that, as long as it's not intrusive enough to affect performance
and it doesn't try to ban me for the crime of merely having updated my GPU drivers
I remember CSGO having some problems with that earlier, tho I don't know what the anticheat is like

[frank basin]

i don't wanna spend another game since im little burnout for it

[finite imp]

KNIFE

https://tenor.com/view/nemo-seagull-nemo-seagull-gif-6951530157824796936

[sharp ember]

i'm hoping the customization is good enough to make a clone trooper or kasrkin lookalike

[finite imp]

KNOIFE? KNOIFE KNOIFE?

[frank basin]

starship trooper exterminate getting Class overhaul

no more 3 class base

[junior needle]

You already know it has flesh tearer and lacerate on it

[idle carbon]

the latest trailer showed there were about 15 light armors available, 43 medium, and an unknown number of heavy armor
with 10 or so helmets, though don't know if that's all of them

decent chance of them making a good parody of it

[torn needle]

[finite imp]

Images you can hear

[junior needle]

I also have a more comically unflattering depiction of said pokemans fans but I'll refrain from posting it because it's offtopic

It was hilarious though

[finite imp]

We are on topic about 50 percent of the time

Post it

[idle carbon]

if zealot chat can get away with it, so can we lol

[junior needle]

Very well, spoilered

It's just an ugly guy with a runny nose

[finite imp]

It's a blend of man child and Stockholm syndrome

Also nostalgia goggles

[sharp ember]

lmao

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/remnant2-gif-9911003517729008395

[sharp ember]

wild hearts was a pretty interesting monster hunter alternative, minding the massive spec requirements

[sleek garden]

i played a ton of bfv and going to 2042 felt like a step back in every direction

[frank basin]

small popular soul-like with gun

[finite imp]

People cannot stand to see their favorite game series being made to look like an absolute joke, because to them it's like sports teams. They refer to the team as "we" as if they're a part of the pokemon development cycle

[sleek garden]

like holy moly i was using smgs and watching them go out of my ring sights within 20 meters

[sharp ember]

wild hearts' take on unique hunter weapons was pretty cool

[idle carbon]

I feel that
I couldn't say myself since it's been ages since I played BFV, but I still remember it was good

[sleek garden]

literally not landing your shots at close range with an smg is insane

the old acw-r in 2042 was infuriating for that

youd have the kobra sight

ads at a dude

[idle carbon]

eh, vault weapons were weird a while back

[sleek garden]

watch your bullet tracer literally go sideways outside of the kobra sight

yeah but everyone on 2042 right now worships bf4 and every update removes more of the stuff that made each operator special

like i didnt agree with operators

but at the very least stick to your guns

[idle carbon]

yeah

[sleek garden]

they made throwable ammo and health from the dedicated throwable health medic and throwable ammo soldier a thing for everyone to use

in case you want to throw twice as many medkits as normal

[idle carbon]

angle got gutted so many times now, the poor guy

first his voice actor lost all the charm, then he lost the armor, and then the ammo/med packs

[sleek garden]

and made the spotting scope and the dedicated recon classes pointless by adding spotting to everyone

soldier spot works at any range by the way the spotting scope doesnt

now everyone loves it because it plays like bf4 with sidegraded graphics and maps from bad company

[sleek garden]

they said they were gonna give everyone new lines and then they didnt

so now everyone is silent and you only hear them talk in game and they made them all sound the same

dont get me wrong hearing angel at the end of every game going dont be sad this is how it works out sometimes got annoying

but they could have added new lines

[idle carbon]

only time I've heard them have some charm is when you revive squad mates, sometimes they'll say something personal between the two specialists

[sleek garden]

yeah

irish hates boris

[frank basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egf5LcYgXKc

another 2042-like game

[sleek garden]

sorry i was ranting

i was really upset about how 2042 turned out

[frank basin]

well delta force was my nostalgia game

the Delta force Black hawk down rescue mission

[sleek garden]

lately these games have been leaning way more into twitchy super fast paced slidejumping things

its too much for me

[frank basin]

like titanfall parkour?

[idle carbon]

I mean, you're playing darktide
that one of those games lol

[sleek garden]

no in titanfall 2 twitchy movement was built into it

these games just depend on wacky movement from the engine itself

[thick wolf]

hey come on man, Titanfall 2 is still the bee's knees

[idle carbon]

I jumped back into BF2042 and I instantly missed being able to dodge slide like a crackhead

[sleek garden]

i love titanfall 2

but the sliding was reasonable

so was the movement sort of

[sleek garden]

looks interesting

[frank basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr14OtO1Esk

[idle carbon]

the one setting I absolutely hate is near-future stuff
BF2042 is just on the "not hate" side of that line, but DF just looks really weird to me

[sleek garden]

suppressor on a desert eagle lol

[idle carbon]

but that's just my opinion

[frank basin]

DF BHD was my favorite game

i used to play in internet cafe

[thick wolf]

the new Delta Force game is so insulting in so many ways

[sleek garden]

one thing i really do like about bf2042 is the music which is something everyone says they hate but i think it fits the setting perfectly

[thick wolf]

even the "singleplayer" being a remake of Blackhawk Down still has some near-future stuff shoved into it, despite taking place in the 90s or early 2000s

[terse idol]

Well to be fair hoooly hell

[sleek garden]

near future stuff is fine

[terse idol]

That game had a learning curve of hell

[thick wolf]

the theme was quite ass tho

[terse idol]

You had to master movement and the shooting

[sleek garden]

10cent games its over

[frank basin]

this is delta force black hawk down

[thick wolf]

Doom Saturn-tier sounding theme

[terse idol]

And you had to hit targets moving at 1000miles an hiur

[frank basin]

no is just chinese youtuber play close beta

[idle carbon]

I'm an orchestral kind of guy, I loved BF1 and BFV's music, so I'm already heavily biased lol
I don't hate 2042's music, but I'm not in love with it either
just sort of there for me to enjoy at times

[terse idol]

Ten cents games is fine

Tencent is like

The biggest company for games in the world

[frank basin]

2003 game

[sleek garden]

nevermind i dont like this much anymore

[idle carbon]

lol the 180

[frank basin]

i told you, is just another 2042, they said the game going be free.

[thick wolf]

reminder that Embracer held the IP and sold it to Tencent after the 2 billion dollar deal failed

so in a way

[frank basin]

is pre-future scifi look boring?

[thick wolf]

blame Embracer for making this happen

[terse idol]

Oh it's just tarkov

[thick wolf]

no.

[terse idol]

But Chinese

[thick wolf]

BO2 is peak pre-future sci-fi

[frank basin]

no, is not chinese made

[terse idol]

Oh

[frank basin]

is chinese youtuber play the game

[terse idol]

But it is tarkov

[frank basin]

i witnessed

let me dig more deeper

[frank basin]

okay it seem i watch one video has include chinese american developer

[terse idol]

eh

[frank basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1d7nPSuAp8

[terse idol]

They're american

okay okay

[frank basin]

so not chinese american?

[terse idol]

I can kinda vibe

So is this

Chinese devs

Or not

[thick wolf]

this still feels like a spit in the fuckin face of the IP

[frank basin]

i think they are old veteran play these kind old game @terse idol

[thick wolf]

even if I don't have much familiarity with it beyond Blackhawk Down

[terse idol]

that is a very good point

But like

Okay, I'm gonna do the thing

But all FPS's

Are just kiinda propoganda

CoD

[thick wolf]

propaganda

[terse idol]

Literally covered the bombing of that one iraq guy

Yeah

It glorifies combat

[thick wolf]

you can't exclusive that to videogames

[sharp ember]

i love shooter game titles that just put tactical words together
"hawk ops"

[bitter turtle]

yes kinda

[thick wolf]

okay so Darktide is a propaganda shooter then

hooray

nothing is fucking sacred

[bitter turtle]

i didnt know the imperium was real

and plus

people do get political about 40k

[thick wolf]

next you tell me that I'm a monster for slaughtering demons in Doom

[bitter turtle]

even the roots of the game have political satire

[thick wolf]

may as well go all Jack Thompson why don't you

[bitter turtle]

i didnt say they should be banned

but usually

stories have a message they're trying to tell

[thick wolf]

I love movies being given special treatment

I love it

so much

[bitter turtle]

when did i give movies a pass

china's political doctrine right now is nicknamed "wolf warrior" after the... military movie

military stuff just tends to have propaganda elements to it naturally

[frank basin]

it is some cautionary tale?

[bitter turtle]

not really

just saying yeah

to the other guy

[thick wolf]

I guess World at War is propaganda despite basically showing the absolute horrors of war

[bitter turtle]

saying there's elements reminscent of military recruitment/etc propaganda in military games

[slender turtle]

Who cares for this topic

We need autoguns with chainswords for bayonet

[bitter turtle]

there's a reason recruitment orgs use shooter games sometimes to bait ppl

[thick wolf]

I want this topic out of here asap because it's so incredibly stupid

[bitter turtle]

well, there is a saying that all media based on warfare is inherently anti-war

[thick wolf]

now til, helbore can destroy crushers in a few headshots

[bitter turtle]

i think its questionable though

that statement i mean

[finite skiff]

Yeah chainsword bayonets are stupid. POWER BAYONETS ARE WHAT WE NEED!

[spring rose]

Need scope on revolver fr

[bitter turtle]

use mod

[spring rose]

There's one? Nice

[bitter turtle]

weapon customization mod yes

[finite skiff]

Reject scope, embrace yeehaw.

[junior grail]

Not on Nexus though

[spring rose]

Hunting revolver vibe from New vegas tho

[junior grail]

Gotta get to the discord

[spring rose]

Bruh

Cringe tbh

[junior grail]

Not really

[spring rose]

Join discord just to get the mod and leavin

[junior grail]

There's a chance FS may not be happy with the mod

[spring rose]

Ah I see

Fair enough

[bitter turtle]

the mod has been around forever now

[if they werent happy

it would have already been gone

[junior grail]

It would be easier if it was on Nexus, I'll admit

But in its discord server it remains

[slender turtle]

If they decided to put the brakes on it, im putting the brakes on DT till the devs revert that silly decision

[frank basin]

true

[junior grail]

What about all the other silly decisions?

[finite skiff]

The only mod I use is a mod to make the plasmagun reticle not shit and to show ammo count of teamates.

[frank basin]

you know the weapon customization are lives updates, so constant update probably they not gonna use Nexus

[slender turtle]

Had this been like payday 2, i would have just installed a mod to change what i didnt like

[finite skiff]

Seriously that plasma gun aiming reticle is a crime for how bad it is.

[junior grail]

Yea that's one other unfortunate gripe I have with the mod.

Never know which one is stable before another update is dropped

[bitter turtle]

i have had 0 stability problems with the mod personally

[junior grail]

Oh right now it's fine yes

[bitter turtle]

i mean ive used it for a while

along with the extended customization

to make cursed things

[junior grail]

I can count at least ...4 times it didn't work for me.

I don't like counting on mah fingies

[idle carbon]

I've not had stability problems with mods for ages

and I have ~80 mods, not including library ones

[junior grail]

Oh yea it was the Show Weapons on Operatives that caused me stutter and crash issues for a while

[idle carbon]

you mean visible equipment on weapon customization?

yeah that one is known to cause stutters, just disable it and it's all fine

[junior grail]

Yea that

I did

It was such a relief

[junior needle]

Reminds me of another simple thing fatshark could easily do and chooses not to, teammate UI and also ammo pickups showing what you’d get and if it’d put you over max

[thick wolf]

also TIL

you can charge your helbore bayonet attack

[bitter turtle]

you run faster while charging

its like knife heavy sprint

[umbral scaffold]

I use ones that give me a better sight

And removing the skull off enemies

( when you tag them )

That's basically it

[thick wolf]

if only it didn't drain my stamina while doing it

[umbral scaffold]

That's why you just use the knife

And do the heavy sprint slide

[thick wolf]

my vet everytime they sprint with a ia lasgun or helbore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUfYZm5bP28&t=0s

[sharp ember]

3 voc survivalist shredder nade vets

what will they do

[frank basin]

Boltgun everything

[thick rose]

purity

[jaunty sphinx]

had a level 220 zealot bottom score and then start screeching when I said "nt" when we wiped

[frank basin]

And they forget throw grenade

[junior grail]

Reminds me of VT2 Kruber Tuskgor spear tech to run faster, good times

[thick wolf]

whenever I use my pmc vet build with the autogun and knife

I feel weird whenever holding the knife because I almost turn into a stereotypical knife zealot whenever I run around with it

[frank basin]

Oi, I’m the mercenary right here

Except I use brauto Graia and chainaxe

[thick wolf]

mgs4 praying mantis momento

besert desert camo pants and black shirt slaps

[finite skiff]

I've noticed you got 3 kinds of vet dress up. 1. The hardened soldier. 2. I don't know what regulations are, I just wear what's comfy. 3. The guy that probably yells at people for their mustache being out of regs by a quarter inch.

[bitter turtle]

extra poxbursters twice in a row

pls stop with these conditions

[thick wolf]

I'm kinda proud of this getup in spite of my limited means of drip

[frank basin]

i want to be Heavy gunner mercenary

[jaunty sphinx]

posted this in driptide earlier and I like it still

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-army-marching-video-game-gif-17724760

[jaunty sphinx]

[frank basin]

the commander (or the chinese commander, i like to call)

[jaunty sphinx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_WWkQgT3To

fantastic look

[frank basin]

here's anti-tank loadout

yes powersword and plasma

i like the style of anti-tank

[thick wolf]

moebian 21st moment

[frank basin]

Have you checked this

[thick wolf]

that balaclava confuses me

is that another paid cosmetic I'm not aware of

[frank basin]

Is beta helmet

[thick wolf]

because recently I'm seeing rando vets doing the MGS2 getup

[frank basin]

Like very old helmet

During closed beta

[thick wolf]

oh, the one with the very different HUD?

[frank basin]

Only player played close beta had it

[thick wolf]

like this closed beta?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2yx7gdPyB0

[jaunty sphinx]

ye

I have the helmet too

[thick wolf]

ngl, I kinda like that HUD

only because more colors

[frank basin]

i like balaclava

[thick wolf]

yeah the first thing that comes to my mind with seeing that

is this

[frank basin]

you know Balaclava is like iconic of mercenary

[frank basin]

dope

[thick wolf]

my guy is trying to look like this in terms of color scheme

the very first pmc in MGS4

[frank basin]

they look awsome to me

except mine is heavy armors

is fit for machine gunner

[thick wolf]

the red color is basically asking for the orks to come to you and say

"hey ur wearing red means u go faster"

[frank basin]

really?

what does that means?

[thick wolf]

exactly what it says, you go faster

[frank basin]

yeah i see

[daring cedar]

Red is the fastest color. So if you red you go faster.

Ork logic

[frank basin]

what other color with speed?

[thick wolf]

mainly red

[tall torrent]

Wouldn’t this make blood angels faster than white scars

[thick wolf]

if they have orks with them

[frank basin]

Time to sleep

Imperium light off

[thick wolf]

White Scars more like

the imperium's officially sanctioned biker gang

[frank basin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1079235834777186406/1199968470717182002/image.png?ex=65c478b9&is=65b203b9&hm=b9eb6db816270be9e7ba8dadc16dc6247eb91b0961805ce6922fd75912ea049f&

[iron atlas]

What the Veteran class needs in the next update

[umbral scaffold]

Astartes larping as the Mongol hordes

Will never not be funny to me to imagine them doing parthian bolter shots on bike

[iron atlas]

Shredder auto pistol be like

[umbral scaffold]

Ngl I'd use it more if it looked and felt like an mp5

Feels more like a tmp to me

😔

Which isn't as cool cos you don't feel like a tactical boy

[tiny summit]

Make shredder be dual wield mag dumping

[thick wolf]

nonononono

jungle mag or the most impractical 40k equivalent of a drum mag

[frank basin]

Mfs sawed off HK 416

[tiny summit]

https://youtu.be/4YvoiYHs9Dk?si=32zSGxIn9U6NyDpA

[thick wolf]

brother that's a G3 sawed off

[frank basin]

Too many gun names like IPhone

I can’t track them all

[thick wolf]

real fucking nato but sawed off what is this heresy

[iron atlas]

POV: Youre a poxwalker and a Veteran just pulled up with a Pladma Gun

[iron atlas]

Dude the braced auto gun is literally just an AKM

[umbral scaffold]

Pladma

[thick wolf]

what braced autogun

[terse idol]

Okay maybee I was being a little goober,
Games like COD, certainly are

also shleep

[frank basin]

agripinna brauto is

[terse idol]

[frank basin]

snore mimimimimi

[thick wolf]

no I do not want to continue this topic any further because its still stupid

[iron atlas]

Idk latin

[terse idol]

faiir

[thick wolf]

the autogun I have rn is basically

space ak74u

[iron atlas]

They should just add the M16a2

[thick wolf]

technically

the recon lasgun is a FAMAS

[iron atlas]

I mean, who would t want this in the 41st mileniam

[thick wolf]

did WH40K ever have an equivalent to that

[iron atlas]

I dont think so

Maybe

[idle carbon]

...huh, I am surprised to see that 40k guardsmen have neither rifle grenades nor UGLs

[astral ingot]

lost technology

like scopes and red dot sights

[idle carbon]

welllll, darktide kid of made optical sights a thing lol

[thick wolf]

also Necromunda: Hired Gun

[terse idol]

Uh, too much money

[frank basin]

Special ops can have those

[terse idol]

Yee

[frank basin]

Space marine are they expensive?

[terse idol]

🤏

Little bit

[frank basin]

Hmmm

I means boltgun is superior than UGL

They gave space marine and lot space marine boltgun

[thick wolf]

who know what I find funny

sometimes there's a chance that the autogun reload

[terse idol]

I'd also probably say like, maybe the admech has something against like, weapons with underbarrel attachments

[thick wolf]

is just you racking the bolt ala GTA IV and it counts as a full reload

I don't know if that was a bug or not but it's funny

[bitter turtle]

did you start a reload earlier

[frank basin]

Plasma under barrel boltgun

[bitter turtle]

the game saves your reload progress if you swap weapons to interrupt it

[thick wolf]

it happens even if I didn't switch to my gun

sometimes I'd be mag dumping and it just does the bolt racking

[frank basin]

Stages reload they called

[woven tide]

Under barrel grenade launchers do exist and are used by guardsmen funny enough, it's just that no one bothers to make them for either sets or in the art

[frank basin]

Except rotary grenade launcher

[terse idol]

Oh

[woven tide]

There are actually a lot of patterns for man portable automatic grenade launchers. Cadians had one for example

Of course there were ones that were mounted as well

Oh, forgot to mention this, there were ugls for Boltors as well

[wispy hinge]

whats the best blessings for a columnus?

[bitter turtle]

dumdum + some other blessing

fire frenzy/deathspitter for more damage

raking fire for situational damage

stripped down for utility

[wispy hinge]

i got a rank 3 fire frenzy so ill just go in with that and dum dum

what about perks?

[umbral scaffold]

Dawn of War guardsmen be lile

get knocked over get knocked over

[bitter turtle]

flaniac

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-weapons-team-imperial-guard-dawn-of-war-warhammer40k-gif-15592890

[woven tide]

LOL

[vernal hare]

Now if only they would remaster this game with all the sync kills

[umbral scaffold]

I hope

If GW had any brains

They'd remaster DoW 1 and 2

And make DoW 3*

[woven tide]

They would need to put their two braincells together for that

[bitter turtle]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/285190/Warhammer_40000_Dawn_of_War_III/

Steam

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Recommendations

12305

Metacritic

77

▶ Play video

congratulations

they're way ahead of you

[umbral scaffold]

That's the joke-

Dawn of War 3 doesn't exist

I ain't accepting back flipping Gabriel Angelos

It's not even worth it being on sale 😔

Since it's abandoned

[junior needle]

I'm surprised the reviews are mixed and not negative

Must've been a lot of copium huffing to avoid the notion that you weren't jipped for buying it

[thick wolf]

what made it bad?

[umbral scaffold]

Specialists is any elite right?

[junior needle]

A fair few things. Terrible campaign, MOBA/esports style game design, questionable balancing and AI.

[umbral scaffold]

Bad pathing

[junior needle]

It was trying very hard to bait the esports rts crowd and that's a very small percentage of 40k fans

[junior needle]

Specialists are separate from elites

You can see what is what here: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies

[agile yew]

Specials are mostly the disablers or flamer/bomber/sniper while elites are the ones that either by sheer damage (rager) or durability (crusher) end runs when they come in big packs along with lots of others (and throw in couple disablers in mix)

What ive learned in a month that you gotta yourself have solution to each of those, since often you cant rely on team. So gotta have a way to take down pack of very heavy armored enemies or snipe trapper behind trash mobs

[thick wolf]

okay the moment you say esports it explains everything

a fair number of games I used to like got fucked over hard because they want to aim at the competitive esports bullshittery

[woeful ibex]

skin rotation now

Salvar Chem Dogs

[thick wolf]

Halo 5's lighting being made worse compared to it's beta form is a prime fuckin example

[agile yew]

Are those new ones?

[thick wolf]

what the fuck is that first bundle

mfing budget ass NCR Veteran Ranger looking ass

[woeful ibex]

yeah

[woeful ibex]

Rotation Twice a week every thursday 11:00 AM Swedish time

[junior needle]

I do not care for any of them

Ogryn looks alright though

[near quail]

The prices aswell. Not that i was gone buy them enyways but still enoying to see them do the 2900 price tag again.

just feels scumy

[idle carbon]

honestly, if you put on the OG steel legion gas mask, you get a pretty good impression of the Courier

[thick wolf]

cant believe Bethesda actually made the Courier's canonical appearance just an NCR Veteran Ranger, it's so funny

simply because people thought that was him from the cover art

[tiny summit]

WIDE OGRYN

[tiny summit]

Whut?

[true lance]

"No fucking way, it's John Fallout: New vegas"

[idle carbon]

in any case, the steel legion helmet goes nicely with it

[thick wolf]

this is him

yep, that's how he canonically looks like now

[tiny summit]

...

[tiny summit]

He doesn't even have enough strength for the anti-material rifle unless he has a perk

[fervent quiver]

have mercy

my first game is two psykers, my second game is an assail psyker

[idle carbon]

nothing wrong with an assail psyker, long as they remember they have a melee weapon

[tiny summit]

Assail good

[idle carbon]

I run assail on my revolver gunker (that also stabs things very hard with a mk4 sword) just because it works nicely

[fervent quiver]

I get to do jack all second game

[strange grove]

feels good doing more melee damage than a shield ogyrn as a vet

[umbral scaffold]

For dow3 specially it was just extra bad

Since it "brought back base building"

In the dumbest way possible

[strange grove]

yep, dow 1 and 2 were great

didnt buy 3

[umbral scaffold]

And there was an overemphasis on hero units

Combined with how shitty normal units felt

[bitter turtle]

nevedr played dow3

since dow2 already made me eh

in comparison to dow1

[tiny summit]

I have DoW3 because of humblebundle

[umbral scaffold]

DoW2 is just a different game in the end

But you can see the vision behind it

Wanted to be a more "tactical" slow game like company of heroes

[strange grove]

same game devs I think behidn both games

[umbral scaffold]

Which is fair because dawn of war 1 was pretty intense

And kind of silly

( Mandrakes chasing a squad of space marines as they both do a Benny Hill segment while the force commander is staring awkwardly and shooting them down)

[tiny summit]

Inquisitor Martyr any good?

[bitter turtle]

COMMANDER BOREALE
ENEMY UNITS IN THE PERIMETER

[umbral scaffold]

Decent

[bitter turtle]

WEHR

[umbral scaffold]

It's an arpg

So you know wat to expect

If you like the idea of Diablo 40k

It's pretty solid

[umbral scaffold]

WE HAVE FEHLED
DE EMPRA

[tiny summit]

Sounds like an OK pick up on sale game

[bitter turtle]

There is no time to be LOHST

BATTLE BROHTHARS TODAY THE ENEMY IS AT OUAR DOAH
WE KNOW OUR DUTY AND WE WEHL DO IT

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah if you like the genre
It's good on sale

Most of the 40k games recently have honestly been on the "it's good on sale" category if you like the genre

Armageddon, battle sector and Sanctus Reach were tactical games
Mechanicus was a strategy rpg
Gladius was a 4x

Necromunda was a movement shooter like doom

Not amazing
But good enough on sale if you get them 50-70% off like they normally are

[idle carbon]

don't forget battlefleet gothic aramda

[umbral scaffold]

( well, mechanicus is amazing, the rest are okay )

[umbral scaffold]

That too, ye

We kinda moved on from 40k games being god awful

Unless the context is the mobile games

Then yeah they're still awful

[idle carbon]

and then there's Boltgun

[umbral scaffold]

Angriest marine

https://tenor.com/view/boltgun-gif-18072994396535974531

[idle carbon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/726836154292371559/1197021093735714836/bPV8_7X7KioTvPdQ.mp4?ex=65c2fa44&is=65b08544&hm=b1412b0948a5b91670ff5a1cc69fdce796e31ad122e75ab763c2222aed9d0076&

with khorne cheering him on in the background lol

[thick wolf]

malum caedo is the only ultramarine you will ever see in pixel art form

[idle carbon]

https://i.redd.it/7w1v6cbcpa8b1.jpg