veteran-class

[rigid whale]

it's basically TF2 shotgun reloading mechanics with an extra step at that point

[muted knot]

this somehow useable ?

like

can it reach some form of okayness

[idle carbon]

specialists to flak or maniac, thunderstrike to rampage
perfectly servicable

[near shore]

Rampage or cleave dmg tho

I usually use it as horde clear

[idle carbon]

rampage does boost your cleave damage?

[near shore]

I thought that was the dng perk?

[idle carbon]

yeah, it's all damage

[near shore]

I don't think I'd take the DMG over cleave with shred already there

Now on a zealot then I would

[idle carbon]

a melee vet would just cram as much damage on as possible, chainswords or catachan swords with shred / rampage work fine

[near shore]

Oh I'm not saying it wouldn't work

Just personally I'd take cleave

[idle carbon]

rampage / savage sweep is also fine, but you don't have that luxuary here

[hard briar]

My bank keeps offering me life insurance.
Do they know something I dont?

[near shore]

Sorry,put a hit on you

The bank is in on it

[tiny summit]

Yea I believe they've been in the game for a while. The weapon customization mod even uses the unused assets in the game

[serene sage]

Yes. They know you will live a long and healthy life so they will never have to pay out while keep taking your premium.

Congratulations on being healthy.

[tiny summit]

[nimble sentinel]

unless the bank bot is a fiduciary, then legate's in trouble

[serene sage]

You're right. But it's impossible to prove they don't mean otherwise

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/miss-fortune-gif-25413963

[serene sage]

You play League?

[civic knot]

I think Im gonna run gets hot + blaze away. Which of these 2 perks do i change?

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-youre-not-the-only-one-cursed-with-knowledge-gif-13701929

[hard briar]

They're both aweful

[civic knot]

I know but which is lesser of 2 evils

[hard briar]

I would mald and then seethe and not get Blaze Away

[civic knot]

dont got nuthin better

[serene sage]

Truly

[hard briar]

Just to change both perks

Because they are both actually, wholly, aweful

But that's my take.

[terse idol]

Anything good in the store?

[hard briar]

Just the same outfits made from the previous ones

[serene sage]

Uhhh they have Noctua fans

[terse idol]

[serene sage]

And an RTX 4090 that I don't have money to buy

[hard briar]

Steal it

[serene sage]

That would be a felony 😔

[hard briar]

So bring a gun

In for an inch. In for a mile

[nimble sentinel]

are my ears still fucked or did they change the bomber grenade pin noise?

[hard briar]

??

Bomber nade never made a sound bro

[rigid whale]

are you sure

[hard briar]

What are you on about

[rigid whale]

i'm pretty sure there's a very very loud noise for the bomber unpinning his nade

[hard briar]

Yea the bomber...screaming.."HEADS DOWN!"

"ILL FLUSH EM OUT!"

[rigid whale]

naw

[hard briar]

Yuh

[rigid whale]

guess i'll pay more attention next time i play

[serene sage]

There is, and I don't hear it anymore. Unless we are both hallucinating.

[dusty sluice]

yay, changes?

[hard briar]

You are both crazy

[serene sage]

I feel like it's gone when they fixed the bomber dropping fire nade even when not unpinned bug

[frank basin]

Ranged critical hit to falk everyone know that

[serene sage]

But don't quote me on that

[hard briar]

There's never been a bomber nade sound

[wanton dawn]

There is a sound but it is not loud

[hard briar]

Yall are crazy

[serene sage]

Maybe time to check on that bank life insurance

[wanton dawn]

Its a distinct "click"

[hard briar]

Nade pins don't even make a click sound

[nimble sentinel]

somewhere between a triangle and a garand

[hard briar]

Triangles are shapes not instruments

[wanton dawn]

You know what ? Ill be checking in psy later

[jolly hemlock]

bs

[dusty sluice]

deathspitter to dumdum/sustained and crit dmg to flak?

[hard briar]

Yall are just trying to gaslight me because you are all crazy

[rigid whale]

losing your mind

[frank basin]

I did said @dusty sluice

[wanton dawn]

If only it was possible to test things ig

Oh wait

[dusty sluice]

ah mb you had reply ping off

[frank basin]

True

[wanton dawn]

4.58 gb patch

[frank basin]

Probably work from home the Swedes

[serene sage]

Lol before you are completely insane, can you hear the tsh tsh sound when a gunner runs out of ammo?

[wanton dawn]

Yeah... ill test "later"

[frank basin]

I haven’t pay attention to that

[dusty sluice]

this still pains me

[rigid whale]

this reminds me of the time my friend and i got into an argument about the dragon's fury in tf2 and they complained the gun had no visual or audio cue

[frank basin]

You hav multiple agripinna?

[dusty sluice]

5 well stated ones left lol

[hard briar]

Gunners don't run out of ammo

https://tenor.com/view/gone-insane-crazy-snow-white-clap-gif-17191672

[frank basin]

Probably audio overlap?

[frank basin]

Threatening someone who wrong is absurd

[hard briar]

https://youtu.be/DXb2m11FVvQ?si=Hs5l80Z0GtpvUb91

[frank basin]

Hard case hard egg to crack

[wanton dawn]

Why is this gif perfect ?

[hard briar]

I am the Last Scholar of Darcy

[frank basin]

I miss Darcy

[wanton dawn]

Damn, been a while since I heard it last

[frank basin]

“We missed you, Darcy” 🥺

[wanton dawn]

Time passes, memory fades

[frank basin]

Just hold down the lock

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/lich-king-fall-adventure-time-gif-23972282

[frank basin]

He can’t even lockpicking when you hold down the lock. Soon his lock pick get broke down

[frank basin]

Zero context to understand

[hard briar]

He'll just break the lock

[frank basin]

And that’s is no longer lockpicking lawyer

[wanton dawn]

LPL is not above "other" means of entry

including removing hinges

[hard briar]

That is exactly what he has done in other videos

[frank basin]

Hinges are shut closed

[wanton dawn]

Or shooting locks with snipers

[hard briar]

Breaking the locks

[frank basin]

Poor people can’t afford guns

Sad news

[wanton dawn]

Poor lawyer exists ?

[frank basin]

I means the victim

Kitchen knife like last resort

Hell firearm expensive and more expensive with stamp tax

[hard briar]

You can get a gun for like 300 USD

[frank basin]

Handgun?

Pistol.

300 usd a little expensive for poor person

[wanton dawn]

Somehow I think i got baited

[serene sage]

Don't tell me you don't like Darcy

[frank basin]

That’s better than nothing

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/5d-chess-sovereign-chess-triple-s-triple-s-games-spongebob-list-gif-25620972

There's alot of Lore

[wanton dawn]

Grenade activation is linked to the long ding sound

[hard briar]

I dont care to retell it all

[serene sage]

Sit down children

[hard briar]

How poor are you?

[serene sage]

Story time

[frank basin]

Jobless lmao

[wanton dawn]

Why do you need a gun ?

[frank basin]

I have no license for that

[hard briar]

Yea actually. I live in Florida which is why I have a Glock

[serene sage]

Do you feel safe there brother?

[frank basin]

Class firearm get license is paying money like idk how much

Combine buying handgun and stamp tax

[nimble sentinel]

tfw wen living in england

[wanton dawn]

I feel safe knowing moron must make a conscious effort to get a gun in my country

[hard briar]

Most times. Then there's the times some dumb people think it's totally fine to try and break into our cars with guns.

[serene sage]

This dude is Br*tish hahaha

[serene sage]

Damn, I'm in Boston and I never felt unsafe

[hard briar]

They usually do it around 4am which is around the time my old man is going to work

[serene sage]

Then again I live near Harvard so not like it's a dangerous place

[frank basin]

Fear getting mugged by gun?

[nimble sentinel]

get prank'd nerd I'm canadian with a visa

[serene sage]

Not really haha

[hard briar]

So if he walks out at the wrong time, I'll probably be awoken to a situation in which I'll have to kill everyone on my lawn who isn't family

[serene sage]

Haha this dude is can*dian

[frank basin]

My grandparent father live in Boston too

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress2-tf2engineer-use-a-gun-and-if-that-dont-work-gif-17911768

[serene sage]

Oh brother

[dry knoll]

my condolences

[serene sage]

FL is truly a different beast huh

[wanton dawn]

Who is trolling more: me as a bayonet vet or another vet with recon ?

[hard briar]

Recon

[serene sage]

Whoever deals less ranged damage

[frank basin]

https://youtu.be/pUDzfwXtcRo?si=Rk-lauitsVmLU1Dn

[hard briar]

Hellbores are actually good

The recon is never good unless it's using some kinda broken unintended thing

[frank basin]

Recon become last time scoreboard guy yelled at me for bring recon on damnation

[junior needle]

Weren't you using the 2 at some point?

Or was that someone else

[frank basin]

I deleted the 2 and only had 6 and 2a

[junior needle]

7a

[frank basin]

Right

[junior needle]

But wise choice, lowest dps model by far

[frank basin]

Wydm wise choices, is bad choices?

[junior needle]

Pretty sure it's the lowest dps gun in the game actually

The gun is shit

[wanton dawn]

Got ambushed by 15+ maulers in darkness

[iron marten]

as the god emperor intended

[junior needle]

Probably lower dps than psyker staves

[frank basin]

Only like 60 dmg in recon

For 2 and 6d

And 100 dmg 7a

[dusty sluice]

Still unsure lol

[frank basin]

Think try it out after flak swap

[dusty sluice]

i mean other slot

[frank basin]

If you don’t feel like it, try dumdum then

[vernal harbor]

yall ever just max the talents out early on the tree

https://tenor.com/view/notsure500-gif-22059086

[serene sage]

Broke: when you have too much tree at the end of your points.

[vernal harbor]

im talking you may run out of talents before you even get a combat ability

gentlemen what im telling you is that if youve the skill, you can sacrafice everything for the max base stats

[hard briar]

Why would I ever

Invest in the worst part of my tree

https://tenor.com/view/gentleman-giga-chad-sigma-male-gif-25702945

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/green-goblin-sam-raimi-are-you-in-or-out-spider-man-willem-dafoe-gif-25652002

[frank basin]

[hard briar]

I invest as little points till I get to the bottom

[fresh mango]

am i missing something when using the shovel? it doesnt feel very great to use

[idle swallow]

Sometimes I like to take both toughness on ranged headshot/elite kill, as a treat

[nimble sentinel]

show me what you're runnin

I shall assist

[nimble sentinel]

this is not a good shovel

[crude ermine]

Are you building for a more horde or more anti crusher and mauler

Because there are two paths for the shovel

[fresh mango]

i just wanted to use shovel

[dusty sluice]

take a swing is good on mk7

[fresh mango]

never used em before

[dusty sluice]

bc push attack combo

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-wtf-fail-this-is-bad-wow-gif-18469385

[frank basin]

Defense is sprint cost and push cost

[tame zenith]

lower... dps... than psyker staves?

have i walked into a parallel universe?

[dusty sluice]

try push atk light light

[nimble sentinel]

mk 7 clears hordes on the heavy swings, you have minecraft mode for the big bois but the angle is weird and it's slower than the 3

3 imho is goated

[dusty sluice]

has a very silly push atk combo if you have take a swing

[crude ermine]

3 imo tends to be better on the big men

Not to undermine 7's preformanxe

[tiny summit]

That's my standard

[frank basin]

Big men? Ogryn?

[junior needle]

They tend to have not very good dps on a single target overall. Charging and quelling lower their overall performance even in cases where you can get large bursts of damage like with surge staff.

[crude ermine]

Yes

[nimble sentinel]

there are 2 things I love more than anything in this world: strawberry jolly ranchers, and getting my pick deep inside of big men

[crude ermine]

Ah

[tame zenith]

oh you mean like boss dps or whatever

[dusty sluice]

unreal

[neat stratus]

I think it may clear things up to know that there's 331,000,000 people in the US, and only about 20,000 die to gun based homicides in a year throughout the country. You have a 1/16550 risk as long as you're in the average or better area

[tame zenith]

because nothing clears mixed hordes as fast as a well build blaze trauma

[vernal harbor]

im gonna test it WAY more but this cursed talent tree is allow 1k+ light attacks with a knife vi

and the toughness regen is dummy

[fresh mango]

gonna go give it another try, thanks for the tip

[frank basin]

[fresh mango]

just tryna have a fun guardsman build

lasgun, shovel, the works

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/earn-the-right-to-work-the-fine-print-fine-print-right-to-work-work-gif-6285776940406042428

[neat stratus]

I'm trying to put in as little opinion as possible into that, but it should at least help the whole situation over here make sense

[fresh mango]

moebian 21st proud!

[neat stratus]

Could be better but there's no use being too afraid to go outside

[vernal harbor]

Boston needing guns to mug you is insulting

[tame zenith]

i just like how all the brits be like "we dont have guns here"

[vernal harbor]

Boston mfs will box you out over hockey

[junior needle]

Yeah they compensate for it with high area damage

[neat stratus]

And then its knives

[junior needle]

But guns generally don't have that luxury

[tame zenith]

then theres me, a brit, with a nice lil gun safe

they just dont know anything about it is all, gun culture in the UK is different

[frank basin]

Media said handgun dangerous than ar or I can’t remember did they said ar dangerous than hangun?

[neat stratus]

Absolutely its plausible, they just make it tough to get one and it often tends to be pretty restricted

[vernal harbor]

If you don’t have at least one homemade and unregistered firearm kept in very unsafe conditions are you really a darktide veteran

[tame zenith]

but there are over 1 million registered firearms in the UK

yeah dude i know lol i own a few and im a brit

we just dont talk about it "irl" and keep it to ourselves

[neat stratus]

They like to say Ar-15s (well they just consider any black polymer rifle an Ar-15 but yknow) are capable of deleting people

[tame zenith]

such a stigma against a tool

[frank basin]

So then the handgun wasn’t

[tame zenith]

any gun will kill you or another person if you want it to

what it looks like makes 0 difference

[junior needle]

Depends on your metric for "dangerous". Handguns are less lethal due to typically smaller calibers but overwhelmingly more used for various crime

[muted knot]

it got buffed to power but the text doesnt reflect it

[frank basin]

Handgun can conceal and short range when ar big goes long range

[neat stratus]

If its not guns its knives, if not knives rocks, if not rocks fists
I think a better mediator for reducing deaths in general is to make people themselves less violent tbh

[tame zenith]

"less lethal" when any common handgun calibre is more than capable of killing a human being

[frank basin]

So much the handgun just use by criminals

[muted knot]

anyone got like a "basic bitch vet talenttree" i can give someone whos new ?

[vernal harbor]

This is what vet chat gonna fight about all day

[neat stratus]

The .22 caliber is the most commonly used round in murders, but its pretty much ignored by media

[tame zenith]

oh no

[neat stratus]

Anyways this is vet chat and I just wanted to clear things

[tame zenith]

i heard .22 wont even kill a dude

[frank basin]

That also cheapest bullet

[vernal harbor]

Yeah search veteran squad leader build

If someone can give him that link

[tame zenith]

so i heard

[neat stratus]

My psyker is the only one that can get good guns

[tame zenith]

anyway, which is the good recon lasgun?

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[serene sage]

There's a calling for you

[tame zenith]

sorry, hellbore

[frank basin]

Not on critical organs then no

[tame zenith]

shut up dude.

[fluid solstice]

You ought to try it sometime

see how it works out for you

[hard briar]

That's the biggest lie gun morons tell ppl

[vernal harbor]

I called it bait and y’all stil went for it

[neat stratus]

Well now I need a build for gunker

[vernal harbor]

Tf a gunker

[serene sage]

Well its delicious

[junior needle]

6d is the best performing, but they're all doing quite bad currently and I recommend avoiding them entirely until they get substantial buffs.

[fluid solstice]

Hook line and sinker baybee

[neat stratus]

Along with bouncing around inside of the body

[frank basin]

.22 kinda like 1790 pepper guns pocket pistol

Shoot across poker table

[hard briar]

Or the machine gun cops
Used to spray into crowds

[frank basin]

Gun psyker

[vernal harbor]

Take the gun bait to general where there’s at least slowmode

[neat stratus]

Maxim guns?

[hard briar]

https://youtu.be/ZEBL3IvOR6M?si=5hl6hjWuvGKlSfl6

[frank basin]

Maxim guns slowest first invention

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-tentacles-squidward-tentacles-is-that-what-he-calls-it-im-ugly-and-im-proud-gif-26782528

[neat stratus]

Thats a submachine gun

[frank basin]

Yes

People call gunker

[vernal harbor]

Our terms are just going baby mode again

[hard briar]

The 180 was a gun used by law enforcement. They categorized it as less than lethal so they could shoot into crowds

And they did

[frank basin]

Did the cop when stupid mode?

[neat stratus]

"It's 22lr, literally everyone is bulletproof to 22lr"

[frank basin]

22lr was a animal hunting round and rat shot

[serene sage]

When didn't they

[tiny summit]

2 is the worst dps wise right? I think 7a is the better of the other 2 to balance dps and ammo economy. 6d has highest dps but worst ammo econ

[junior needle]

It's an ok roll but definitely avoid that model

[frank basin]

22 just smol bullet but hundred shot is being bit by thousand fire ants

[fluid solstice]

22 won't have the same stopping power as say 7.62, and is certainly less likely to be lethal, but thats still a high likelyhood of lethality

[neat stratus]

Eh, Ill never get a better gun so Ill probably stick with it

[fluid solstice]

I wouldnt use it against a bear tho

[neat stratus]

The blue one would be the best for this roll right?

[frank basin]

Bear too thick

Did people use 5.56 against bear?

[tiny summit]

Main point, for personal defense, most people are gonna back up from a .22

[fluid solstice]

Most certainly.

[junior needle]

I strongly recommend against using the 2. Very likely the lowest dps gun in the game and the ammo efficiency is quite bad.

[hard briar]

People have killed bears with 9mm

[tiny summit]

They aren't even gonna know its a .22 as well

[fluid solstice]

It could work but I'd still rather have something bigger

[tame zenith]

yeah sorry i meant hellbore

[fluid solstice]

like 9mm for instance

[tame zenith]

which is the meta hellbore?

[serene sage]

Bearly

[hard briar]

Just usually if you INTEND to kill a bear, you don't bring 9mm

[muted knot]

pain

[vernal harbor]

Having been in an active combat zone I would like y’all to know every single one of you have dents in your head

[tame zenith]

i have this memey stealth sniper build where im using the agrip HH but i want to try a hellbore on it

[hard briar]

People who have killed large game with small calibers weren't intending to do so lol

[muted knot]

1 or 2

1 is a lot more forgiving to roll

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-iron-man-who-asked-who-asked-meme-meme-gif-24590276

[serene sage]

Does headphone dent count?

[tiny summit]

"Less than lethal" rubber bullets. Completely destroying people's eyeballs and might as well have been financially lethal

[tame zenith]

i got nothing else to grind for RN

[vernal harbor]

That increases gaming skill tho

[serene sage]

The batman way of dealing with criminal

[frank basin]

XD

[serene sage]

I don't kill

[hard briar]

Yea like the 40mm rubber bullets Police lodged into a woman's skull

[serene sage]

I just leave you permanently disabled

[hard briar]

You can pull up the pictures of that incident

[tiny summit]

Do it. Helbore good

[hard briar]

Less than lethal

[tame zenith]

if the hit reg is any better than the agrip HH then im sure itll be fun

[serene sage]

Trust me babe, it looks bigger in person

[tiny summit]

I don't have any issues shooting helbores

[tame zenith]

i just know one is trash cos of the bayonet and another is trash cos of the charge/dmg profile

[frank basin]

What’s that context?

[fluid solstice]

Oh actually I do have a weapons question

[hard briar]

Imo, lasguns have the worst hitreg

[tiny summit]

I like clicking heads

[fluid solstice]

I've been told there's a really specific roll for plasma guns to maximise their real stats.

[hard briar]

Yea back in like. January

Of 2023

[junior needle]

That's correct. The 2 is slightly more ammo efficient, but massively less dps. The ammo economy difference is very small when you take double rending into account and so the 6d remains the best choice. The 7a has at least a couple hundred less dps compared to the 6d.

[fluid solstice]

Clarify?

[tiny summit]

1st is true, 2nd untrue. Mk1 is the standard middle of the road charge to dmg. Mk3 has the highest dmg but shitty bayonet. Mk2 is the fastest charge and least dmg but it's still high dmg. Don't let dipshits tell you otherwise

[tame zenith]

sounds like i want the mk2

cheers

[frank basin]

Okay I get it now

[tiny summit]

Meant the 7a as the better between it and 6d

[junior needle]

Free t4 dumdum

7a is better than 2, if that's what you mean

[fluid solstice]

I've been playing little else but the quickdraw revolver

[frank basin]

The braced?

[tiny summit]

Mk1 and mk2 are both good. A solid charge stat on a mk2 can even get away w/o having onslaught. Mk1/3? I wouldn't use w/o onslaught

[tiny summit]

Yea

[hard briar]

Damage and Stopping power as high as possible and the dump stats are a mixture of thermal, ammo, and charge rate. Usually in that order lol thermal is fine at 60 tho (contrary to what some will tell you.)

[junior needle]

Why do that to yourself

[tiny summit]

During that night of recon, I think unironically infernus actually gave the 2 more value than the other blessings because it's dmg was so low that the burn would at least finish off an enemy I was shooting at and had to reload

[junior needle]

You're correct. The 2 takes so long to kill things that the burn actually gets more value on it

[fluid solstice]

I got real good at it for a bit. I played zealot for a bit, and now I'm back on Vet but I've lost some of my edge

but

shits great. I like being able to 1-tap ragers.

[junior needle]

I tried it on my zealot and the fanning was way, way too inaccurate

So it's like

[fluid solstice]

other revolver. both are quickdraw but I've been using the old one

[fresh mango]

is this salvageable?

[tiny summit]

Oof

[junior needle]

Oh, yeah that's right my bad. Old revolver is one of the best guns in the game

[junior needle]

4/4 scuffed

[tiny summit]

But it's a brauto. It's fine to use but definitely scrap blessing worthy

[junior needle]

Terrifying barrage is dogshit so it's added insult on top of a bricking

[fresh mango]

Great

How about this one?

[junior needle]

Unarmored>flak
hit-run>dumdum

Good to go

[hard briar]

This is good.
Servicable.

[wanton dawn]

The conclusion is: recon did well and I went down a lot but we won

[junior needle]

That ammo usage

[fresh mango]

now to hope i get dumdum

[tiny summit]

Damn I'm blind

[wanton dawn]

When I say i play bayo

I play bayo

That's not a joke

[serene sage]

Recon? It clearly says helbore though

[junior needle]

Melee kills-71
Melee damage-52k
Ammo usage-12 small packs, 6 large packs, 2 ammo crates
Shot into hordes nearly exclusively for the entire game
Yep, it's recon time.

[tiny summit]

MG4 with full auto mod is a better recon

[wanton dawn]

Errr... that's actually true

That's what happened

[junior needle]

It's always what happens

[serene sage]

Can you put more arrows? Still can't be sure 😔

[junior needle]

Every time I see someone post a scoreboard with high recon damage

It always looks exactly like that

[fluid solstice]

maybe another red circle too

[wanton dawn]

Well, can i really criticize ppl bringing recon when I bring a full melee bayonet build ?

[serene sage]

Some people will still think recon is completely fine

[hard briar]

Yes

[serene sage]

Yes

[wanton dawn]

fair enough

[rigid whale]

i've tried to like the recon lasgun

[fluid solstice]

is full melee a viable vet build?!

[serene sage]

To me, back when it was good

It was still boring

[serene sage]

More or less. You still need your gun from times to times

[wanton dawn]

As long as you bring something to deal with sniper

[rigid whale]

i knew i'd prefer the autogun just from feel, the lack of recoil or enemy stagger makes lasguns feel a little weak in the hands

but the lack of damage doesnt help lol

[fluid solstice]

So a psyker

[tiny summit]

This was my MG4 lasgun game last night

[hard briar]

Ogyrn rock

[wanton dawn]

The good thing with bayonet is that you get a hellbore attached to it to deal with things you cannot reach

[tiny summit]

No one else picked up ammo so 🤷‍♂️

[serene sage]

The Custodes spear at home

[fluid solstice]

Whats the go to melee weapon?

[wanton dawn]

Bayonet

Seriously though ? You got a lot of option

dclaw, psword, chsword, caxe, chaxe, shovel

all of that works

[fluid solstice]

I've found I do well with the devils claw myself

[wanton dawn]

My goto melee weapon is psword mk6

Allow me to do dumb things

[neat stratus]

such as?

[orchid musk]

If you don’t know what to bring, bring a chain sword. If you do know what to bring, then bring that.

[wanton dawn]

2s

[fluid solstice]

Real

[tiny summit]

PS6 is like...man does it just work

[neat stratus]

Shuvvle

[tiny summit]

Missing 1% dmg. Unusable. Srry

[neat stratus]

Ok but can I become a shovel main with this?

Mobility dump stat 💯

[tiny summit]

Yea. If hadron is nice to you

[orchid musk]

Yea, but all the other shovel mains will judge if you’re not swinging a 380.

[tiny summit]

I personally don't like that much of a dump stat but you do you. It's a good "get the fuck off" stick

[wanton dawn]

Only took me 82 tries https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1199236374646235136/Warhammer_40000__Darktide_2024-01-23_07-15-22.mp4?ex=65c1cee8&is=65af59e8&hm=1d15152740967f6431fcf527772e1fd8607c2f45684e0f5cd14f94eb12b496b6&

its easier if you use shout and confirmed kill

[neat stratus]

How do you get extra swings?

[wanton dawn]

Power cycler 4

[rigid whale]

i have power cycler 3 😔

[hard briar]

Mobility and defenses are usually always the dumpstat on weapons that have them

[neat stratus]

PC3 doesnt get an extra swing?

[wanton dawn]

1 extra swing. PC4 get 2

[neat stratus]

Oh damn

[rigid whale]

ye

[vernal harbor]

you say that but people believe that

[tiny summit]

Oh I know. Fuck those ppl

[nimble sentinel]

why use poop sword when you could just

[vernal harbor]

I have a 550 god sword and someone said “finesse kinda ruins it”

[wanton dawn]

cuz plasma is probably even more hated than PS right now

[tiny summit]

Like I may say that as a joke but yea...those people need new perspective

[hard briar]

They hate us cuz they ain't us

[vernal harbor]

Mfs will watch me cut two crushers heads off in a single cleave and be like “but it didn’t crit”

[wanton dawn]

My best ps sword is a mk3

[vernal harbor]

Crit these nuts

[remote grotto]

what are good ranged weapons for more frontline vet gameplay?

[vernal harbor]

Column v

[tiny summit]

Kinda want a mk3 ps just to be different

[nimble sentinel]

kantrael mg 4 if you can click fast enough

[hard briar]

Plasma

[wanton dawn]

revolver, plasma, columnus, agri brauto... All the meta guns work

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-19787475173016375

[remote grotto]

ooo ok tyty

[wanton dawn]

Cuz the meta guns all have very good swap speed

[hard briar]

Fast swap, blast everyone in that direction dead because Hella cleave
Switch back to melee

[tiny summit]

Helbore. Because it has a bayonet

[wanton dawn]

Nah, hellbore has crap swap

[vernal harbor]

Imagine having a gun you gotta blow on because it gets too hot

[rigid whale]

should i try auric damn with stealth vet or gaze psyker

[wanton dawn]

Well, unless you fully commit to bayonet

[tiny summit]

Either good

[vernal harbor]

Stealth vet 100% you have to trust me people will love it

[hard briar]

Sounds like you can't blow

[wanton dawn]

Then yeah, hellbore is also a good melee vet ranged

But that is probably not what ppl expect

[serene sage]

Phrasing

[vernal harbor]

I only blow things that work

[hard briar]

This is like the Russians saying the T90 is a great tank

[vernal harbor]

Lmao I just realized your name

[wanton dawn]

That's what the ogryn said when I told him to move out of the line of fire or i would unload my hot plasma stuff unto his back

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/gentleman-giga-chad-sigma-male-gif-25702945

[rigid whale]

i accidentally picked volley fire shotgun vet oops

[vernal harbor]

I’m never winning that talk lmao

[hard briar]

No one ever has

[vernal harbor]

Yasss Queen

[fluid solstice]

oh no

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/lion-king-yas-yasgurl-yasdisney-gif-5488470

[terse idol]

Mg42 be like-

Lmg's in real life do get a tiiiinnnny bit hot

[vernal harbor]

When I was training with the m240 as an 19 year old recruit I was laughing my ass off that I have to carry a bag of barrels because the barrel melts lmao

Couldn’t believe it

“Fuckin bum ass marine corps”

[terse idol]

[vernal harbor]

For all the scuffed gear the guardsmen have, it does work

The power sword does turn on still

[hard briar]

Reminds me of what the Drill Sgt told us when someone asked
Why we use a gun that needs the barrel swapped out to keep shooting.

"With this I can kill 800 mother fuckers in a minute."

[dusty sluice]

feels acutally nice, swap deathspitter to dumdum or keep it how it is

[vernal harbor]

Unsure if the m240 in all its history has gotten 800 kills 💀

[serene orbit]

is 5% crit on a revolver a waste of a perk slot?

[dusty sluice]

exe stance 1a is pretty fun

[fluid solstice]

Yeah but it's sex to fire

[vernal harbor]

detonates in your face because you reloaded carelessly

[hard briar]

Dude the Cadre at the MG range didn't like the way I looked holding a 240 so they only let me shoot the 249

[fluid solstice]

Sounds like a skill issue to me

[vernal harbor]

The last skill issue you’ll ever make lmso

I’d be so pissed

In the afterlife like “oh for fucks sake are you kidding me”

[fluid solstice]

Shit breathes fire when you go cyclic tho

its a power trip

[vernal harbor]

I’ve rode the lightning twice and it was stirring something inside of me

[fluid solstice]

I'm telling you

[dusty sluice]

anyone?

[vernal harbor]

Dum dum

[dusty sluice]

relatable

[vernal harbor]

Good roll

[fluid solstice]

Carried one like 4 miles up and down hills in 90 degree heat. The moment I opened up, it all suddenly became worth it.

[dusty sluice]

any bps for agri iag?

[hard briar]

90 degrees isn't that hot

[fluid solstice]

It is when you're going up and down hills with an m240b

[vernal harbor]

What’s bps

[hard briar]

Beats per minute

[fluid solstice]

and your rucksack.

[vernal harbor]

5’8 gang I was exempt from hauling that shit

[fluid solstice]

I'm 5'9" I think they just didn't like me💀

Dwarfmaxxing

[hard briar]

Lmao

[serene sage]

Are yall in the military?

[hard briar]

Past tense

For me atleast

[serene sage]

I thought that's like perfectly average height in the US?

[fluid solstice]

Legally yes, practically no.

[neat stratus]

💀 Why is it censored

[hard briar]

GPU skill issue

[neat stratus]

Alt tab skill issue

[serene sage]

Defense contractor then?

[fluid solstice]

Obsidiax-Sheathed dick

[vernal harbor]

Yeah but the military uses the tall boys for max utility

[fluid solstice]

Nothing that cool. I'm an officer cadet.

[serene sage]

Ah sick

I know a friend in Westpoint and another in the Citadel

[vernal harbor]

16-20 Corporal and I’m blessed to have left

[serene sage]

They are doing well, it's a good start to your career, or so I heard

[hard briar]

Does he by chance, have a hammer and sickle tattooed on his chest?

[neat stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/big-sexy-obese-obese-man-redditor-gif-25830678

[serene sage]

Lol no

[vernal harbor]

Nurgling cosplay

[fluid solstice]

Oh shit who do you know

[hard briar]

Man has the strongest knees in the world

[fluid solstice]

At west point

[serene sage]

They must have graduated by now but you know anyone with the last name Pearson

[odd island]

Did the hotfix add any content we havent seen yet

[vernal harbor]

Duration for using them : 2 minutes
Cooldown : 4 hours

[fluid solstice]

I’m afraid not

Damn

[hard briar]

I hope he doesn't subscribe to the immense officer grade mental degenacy some of the Officers at Westpoint pick up

[vernal harbor]

Check drip tide and theory

[neat stratus]

4 days*

[vernal harbor]

Westpoint ironically doesn’t do what the academy thinks it does, I’ve found

“I graduated westpoint”
“Oh.. you don’t say, sir”

[hard briar]

We had this Westpoint fuckhead who had some strange sense of elitism. Genuinely thought green to gold program was producing inferior officers

[serene sage]

Well my friend went
His little brother who I don't know should be there still?

Anyway

[hard briar]

The green to gold guy, who came in after him who knew fucking everything was a delight.

[dusty sluice]

ugh

7 more left

[hard briar]

That dude didn't get us lost for6 hours in the Desert while low on water

Cause he could read a fucking map

[fluid solstice]

Theres 4500 of us. Ill look him up tho

[dusty sluice]

how would vraks 7 and exe stance do?

[serene sage]

Or not lmao, it can be weird.
Hi bro, I know you from a rando online who talked about you. No this is not sus at all

[hard briar]

Get Opsecced mofo

[fluid solstice]

Lmao im not gonna go find him irl

Unless i already know him

[hard briar]

Make it omnious as hell
"Hello cadet. You should be cautious whom you identify to. Your command will not be told this time.
Good day."

[serene sage]

Small world

[neat stratus]

Habdron

[fluid solstice]

There's two here by the name, one in my class, and one in a class below. I know neither. I will pursue this no further

[fluid solstice]

I'll tell you straight up a green to gold will always be the better officer

[serene sage]

How do you like Westpoint though?

[vernal harbor]

tencent can use this

[fluid solstice]

It sucks and I cant wait to graduate

[serene sage]

Haha

I've heard it being described as the best thing you never want to do again

[fluid solstice]

Yeah, thats about it

[serene sage]

I went to a small liberal art school so it's the opposite for me, probably

[hard briar]

It'll help with the construction of the 50 ton IFV they're making over there

[cunning field]

You’ll get there

[fluid solstice]

Dont get me wrong, few other schools will send you out in the woods to play with guns all summer

but still

[cunning field]

Bet

[icy orchid]

ammo is a bit low but this thing kills so fast

[junior needle]

The ammo stat barely budges your total ammo on IAG's, you're fine. I recommend dumdum over ff as it's bugged and much better than it seems

[wanton dawn]

Pretty sure you are losing like, 10 to 15 ammo reserve and 1 ammo in the load

Its fine

[junior needle]

Flak is likely to also give you smoother overall performance compared to maniac if you can only choose one

[neat stratus]

So is my internet out or did darktide explode?

[untold mulch]

Doing the emperor work

[junior needle]

As IAG's have insane maniac multipliers by default and it's very much good enough

[hollow ibex]

Hmm is there somewhere you can see the base weapon stats and multipliers?

[icy orchid]

I can probably kill 11-13 gunnners with a single mag

[raw steppe]

click the gun and press V

[untold mulch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons

[wanton dawn]

Rofl

[untold mulch]

Also here

[untold mulch]

DAMN

[hollow ibex]

I mean per weapon standardized

[junior needle]

Only in death does duty end.

[untold mulch]

THIN YOUR PAINTS

[serene sage]

Thin your paints

[serene sage]

Damn

[hollow ibex]

Ig this will have to do

[icy orchid]

damn you got a entire percentage on me

so...yall think this will be allowed to stand or will it get nerfed into the ground next patch?

[untold mulch]

Relax

Recon will tank the nerf for Columnus

🙏

[raw steppe]

fatshark has been pretty reasonable with nerfs generally

they don't nerf stuff into unuseability

[dusty sluice]

can recon las really get any worse?

[raw steppe]

just into balanced state

[serene sage]

I don't think we will get major balance changes next patch tbh

[junior needle]

[untold mulch]

They still can kill stuff at some point in your lifespan

[serene sage]

If nerfs happen it would be a slap in the wrist most likely

[fluid solstice]

The recon is so cool i wish it was good😭

[untold mulch]

🤣

KEK

[mortal pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/novy-start-ochrana-safety-bezpecnostni-pomucky-safety-tools-gif-24724289

[dusty sluice]

(recon las reference)

[raw steppe]

recon is an exception

look at PS, shredder, slaught

hs

[junior needle]

Shredder is quite bad currently

[wanton dawn]

Am gonna try onslaugh over 15% elite damage on columnus

[junior needle]

Not as bad as recons

[raw steppe]

shredder is ok

i think it's pretty average

[junior needle]

It's only ok against maniacs

[neat stratus]

Ok so Im experiencing fourth world country lag but my internet hasnt slowed, the hell is going on?

[serene sage]

Shredder TTK is so high

[junior needle]

Against everything else it suffers

Just a worse brauto/ciag atm

[serene sage]

Server hamster died

They are replacing it with a new one

Please hold on

The intern can only spin the wheel so fast

[junior needle]

Primarily helps with flak and crusher busting

[neat stratus]

You mean the server raisin?

[wanton dawn]

Because I lose the 15% elite I mostly lose performance on gunners

[untold mulch]

Shredder nade?

[hard briar]

Shredding went from deleting the map infrint of him

[untold mulch]

I consider its CC very good

[wanton dawn]

Also losing ammo reserve

[junior needle]

autopistol

[untold mulch]

OH

Forget it exists

[serene sage]

So did FS

[hard briar]

To nothing

[wanton dawn]

In any case, I will do run with it. It should be good at range

cuz columnus has bad armor mod at range

[serene sage]

Maybe give it better range? Idk how to fix it tbh

[hard briar]

Well it can't just invalidate the existence of everything Infront of it like it used to

But it should certainly not be chambered in verbal insults and Twitter replies

[serene sage]

[serene sage]

Listen, physical wounds can heal

Emotional scars on the other hand

[hard briar]

Maybe if fatshark decides to chamber it in idk. 10mm?

[neat stratus]

Ew

One of the worst weapons and a 438 yellow at that

Either an absolutely massive dump stat or I have like 30 in everything

[untold mulch]

EMPEROR GIFT

THIS PIECE OF KARK

[neat stratus]

You have to be kidding

[untold mulch]

[neat stratus]

The one time I get a weapon that could be saved, it has no stats

[sharp ember]

free dumdum 3 strip

[vernal harbor]

goes down once

[untold mulch]

Catch all blessings

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/there's-nothing-we-can-do-gif-14390726165144583214

[agile yew]

76 was enough?

[neat stratus]

All hail mobility dump stat

[vernal harbor]

makes you really wonder for those times where your team is downed a common amount of times, but you go down once and its 100% over

like was it always a carry

[vernal harbor]

useable

[neat stratus]

Cleave target dump stat

[vernal harbor]

hate that

[serene orbit]

when the enemy's necks are too thicc

[neat stratus]

"Good enough"

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-reynolds-hanging-frank-hanging-himself-frank-iasip-gif-8711825252409059548

[serene orbit]

yikes

[vernal harbor]

"dont try and stop me"

[neat stratus]

"It'll work"

[vernal harbor]

😦

[neat stratus]

At least I have this

Could I by any chance put the dum dum on this

[junior needle]

No

Headhunters can't get dumdum

[neat stratus]

Alr scrappin time

[junior needle]

That's a fairly good roll though

[neat stratus]

Heres a plasma gun I got

It... almost works well

[wanton dawn]

Sacrifying maniac+ for carapace+ and elite dmg+ for onslaught just to be able to deal with crusher. I will test this IG

[junior needle]

Also better flak damage over range

[hard briar]

Mmmm. Idk man. It doesn't burn my hand when I shoot it

[junior needle]

I suppose it's also a damage boost to other types but not as large

[untold mulch]

I love that autoguns barrels start glowing

And I wonder why tf Lasguns doesn't

[hard briar]

Can you make it burn my hand when I shoot it? Maybe even hurt me when J reload.

[untold mulch]

WHY

[wanton dawn]

Actually helps a lot against unyielding at range

[hard briar]

Because the Lasgun is expelling the heat

Or its not building up on a visible surface

[untold mulch]

Unless lasgun is 100% efficient, there gotta be heat somewhere

[hard briar]

Maybe an internal, like the battery we stick in, itself.

[untold mulch]

though thats fair, but I feel adding an effect would be cool

[junior needle]

Oh yeah I forgor that the maniac and unyielding falloff doesn't line up with the far end. Drop off for unyielding is huge.

[untold mulch]

Like on long shooting the sides start having a slight heat effect

[hard briar]

I like to think the recoil is an intended feature since autoguns are used as stopgap weapons till lasgun logistics reach that Frontline.
IE the Gaurdsmen can be trained to shoot with either an autogun and or a lasgun and still knows how each functions without having to learn separate functions.

[hard briar]

Also why the lasgun needs to be cocked. Maybe on the lasgun that just secured the battery inplace. But on the autoguns, it chambers a round.

[wanton dawn]

Green get full value from onslaught, red get partial value

[hard briar]

But thats just head canon

[wanton dawn]

the rest get very little

[terse idol]

Gotta secure it sure

[hard briar]

The reality is the British have never known how guns work

[junior needle]

For the helbore it looks like flicking an on button

[untold mulch]

Yeah, I am mostly sure the recoil thing is mentioned at some point

[neat stratus]

It got Power cycler III I guess

Thats good enough

[vernal harbor]

martini henry go bat shit insane

they knew how that worked

at the very least

[junior needle]

You won't really hit the negative maniac damage unless you're at like 45m+, but for everything else it's useful

[wanton dawn]

still better than 15% elite damage thant wont applies anyway.

[untold mulch]

why it wont apply?

[hard briar]

Swiss made

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/teletubbies-po-fall-sleep-tired-gif-10997671

[neat stratus]

The british people know how to make angry tubes, not guns

[hard briar]

And the gunsmith was a scott

[vernal harbor]

this applies to the chanel tunnel

[agile yew]

So i just spent 100k to buy grey Brunts Columnus guns, and best i got was 360 rating 😭

[untold mulch]

lucky

[agile yew]

Need one that isnt total crap as placeholder now that just hit lvl 30

[modest rock]

100k, wait till you drop 1m and not break 350

[ivory rock]

Aint the best but Imma take it for now cause it's better than my current. Should I just toss deadly on as well or change one of the perks?

[agile yew]

I think highest amount of money ive had is like 200k

[untold mulch]

I have 3m dockets reserved for a hellgun content drop

and I fear is not enough to get the rolls I want

[junior needle]

Lasgun recoil is a gameplay concession. I've heard mention of some obscure lore passage about artificial lasgun recoil made for training weapons to help ease the introduction of lasguns to recruits used to autoguns, but that alone is absurd and having all lasguns have that artificial recoil is also similarly silly.

[hard briar]

That's the literal head canon I've referenced mate thanks for reading what I typed

[untold mulch]

I like the little recoil Recon has

[junior needle]

I've never actually seen that lore tidbit though

So it could just be a rumor

[hard briar]

Because it isn't lore

It's headcanon

90% of all the good 40k shit that makes it cool is the community making up for the insane stupidity the authors write

[junior needle]

If that's true then people are actively spreading misinformation

[untold mulch]

Just justifying why some writers are stupid and don't realize LASER = RECOILLESS

well

[hard briar]

It's better than the Lasguns being lasers that hit like 50 calibers but not

[untold mulch]

some recoil may actually exist

Smth smth not mass but they have momentum smth

[untold mulch]

I assume overcharged and such

they do

Like Lucius pattern at full send, I wouldn't be surprised

[junior needle]

The basic las weapon hitting that hard isn't necessarily an issue in future world where nearly all enemies are super(naturally) tough

And also future materials are supposedly much better

[untold mulch]

Orks fight with half body missing and laughing

[hard briar]

Yes so 40k has lasguns on full charge punching like 50 cals, not classified as a hotshot, and yet do less damage than an autogun chambered in drum roll 50 cal

[untold mulch]

If you talking Darktide

[hard briar]

Because GW are British and

[junior needle]

Tabletop stats

[untold mulch]

I assume is gameplay concession

[hard briar]

The British don't know how guns work

[serene sage]

🇺🇸

[hard briar]

Canon

[serene sage]

Murica

[untold mulch]

Then is just dumb af writers

[serene sage]

Fuck yeah

[untold mulch]

Autoguns should only excel with specialty ammo

[hard briar]

Gameplay concessions are having the Ogyrn ingame and not fucking being able to solo missions entirely xD or get pinned by dogs 900 times weaker than it.

[untold mulch]

idk I've found some Ogryn players who have soloed for all purposes...

[hard briar]

When in Canon Ogyrns will solo warbosses and their MegaNob buddies, tank bolter to the body and still hang to hand to hand combat murder the CSM+ Terminators, etc.

Those are gameplay concessions xD

[untold mulch]

Anyways, I see "reasonable" lasgun at full send and maybe a pattern like Lucius which is pure focus on get that damage, idc about battery capacity getting those numbers.

[untold mulch]

Honestly our Ogryns I don't know if they are just very weird, or they are gonna be retconned later as being part of a subpart which is smarter while being smaller

[agile yew]

Hit lvl 30 and thats the first curio i made, should get that renaming mod so could call it the Stamina Mobility Curio

[untold mulch]

because I am relatively sure

our Ogryns are small compared to canon?

[terse idol]

Huh?

When did they say that

[wanton dawn]

So after a quick test, I think putting onslaugh on my build sacrifice too much

[terse idol]

Lasguns are for anti-infantry

Like, gw being British isn't exactly like

Any mark on how they design guns

[austere badger]

Well my helbore seems to work on everything.

[terse idol]

Lasguns melt flesh, they do struggle with more heavily armoured targets but you have volume of fire

[austere badger]

Excluding when I'm holding the charge and it's not doing anything.

[untold mulch]

Lucius pattern is overclocked to hell and back

[terse idol]

The bolter is just based on the real world equivalent of a gyrojet gun

[untold mulch]

Canon wise, I think they risk melting

on the user hands if overused

[austere badger]

Volkite weapons are the chonk lasguns.

[junior needle]

Lascannons are the chonk lasguns I'm pretty sure

[serene sage]

Aren't those super rare?

[austere badger]

Are volkite weapons fieldable in the tabletop rn?

[untold mulch]

Hotshot

[untold mulch]

I beleive not in 40k

[junior needle]

Yeah hotshots also have armor pen

[untold mulch]

30k probably

[austere badger]

Kinda, they're just not considered modern.

[junior needle]

Both regular and volley gun variants

[serene sage]

We need psycanons

[austere badger]

Most people with access don't want to use them.

[untold mulch]

Hotshot lasguns are the goodshit

[serene sage]

Like the ones the GKs use

[untold mulch]

gib

[austere badger]

Give me a plasma pistol.

[serene sage]

And Psilencer

[terse idol]

Lascannons are field guns

[austere badger]

And when you overload it you throw it and no longer have a gun.

[terse idol]

You dont exaactly have 1 person shooting them you have a team

[untold mulch]

Volkite guns are so hard to make, the bolter was considered cheaper

like damn

[austere badger]

For regular people. Lol.

[terse idol]

No no no

Even a space marine would struggle

Its literally a field gun

[agile yew]

What is Plasma Gun dump stat?

[austere badger]

In a book, one of the Mars related ones, it was about the power source iirc.

[untold mulch]

Makes sense

[austere badger]

Ammo?

[terse idol]

You're thinking of the Plasma Cannon

[junior needle]

Well if you want a direct equivalent, lascannons are just chonk lasguns. Volkites iirc work a bit differently

[untold mulch]

Isn't it relatively normal for SM to single carry the Lascannons?

That or SM game lied to me

[ivory rock]

requestin help one more time cause I'm violently indecisive help an mf out danke

[austere badger]

The new model is really cool. It's in my pile of shame.

[untold mulch]

Titus just went to the gym

[agile yew]

Thermal Resistance is important?

[terse idol]

Lascannon but there are people who interprate astartes using them as shoulder mounted cannons

[untold mulch]

Just reminded me of that SM that is basically a midget by SM standards but mf is so swole they beg him to stopo because the armor refit was expensive

[muted knot]

What does your damage breakdown look like ?

[tiny summit]

Charge rate atm due to charging being near worthless. Ammo isn't gonna hurt being the lowest

[serene sage]

What

[hard briar]

Brother please stop lifting and learning how to use different weapons. It's costing us too much

[untold mulch]

I remember it reading it somewhere

[muted knot]

You want to change your perks if it means you hit some headshot breakpoints

[untold mulch]

Imperial Fist maybe?

[agile yew]

Ok thanks will keep eye on such then

[serene sage]

No who is SM

[tiny summit]

Also thermal resist

[untold mulch]

Dude is just

GYMBRO MARINE

[hard briar]

Its canon.
THERES this fucking SM who is short af but is an absolute unit

[untold mulch]

Let me check

[junior needle]

Apparently charge rate affects how long it takes for your normal shot to charge, which I was very surprised to learn

[muted knot]

It does yeah

[tiny summit]

Probably not enough to really matter if it's the dump stat

[untold mulch]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Maximmion_Voss

Voss was much shorter than the average Space Marine, possibly because of some quirk or defect in his geneseed. He compensated for his lack of height with rigorous physical training, developing his muscles to a degree that made him immensely strong even for a Space Marine. His power armour had to be re-fitted to accommodate his bulk several times, until finally his Captain ordered him to stop growing.

[hard briar]

The dump stat is a mixture of thermal, charge rate, and ammo.

[untold mulch]

[tiny summit]

The true answer

Damage and stopping power only mattering

[hard briar]

Plasma only wants stopping power and damage at 80% everything is who cares

Thermal, imo, stops being useful at 60 anyway

[agile yew]

Ok gonna go test Plasma for first time now, any tips? Besides not charging long

[umbral scaffold]

They made a space marine for manlets who compensate with gym

[terse idol]

Yeah I mean would dump CR

[tiny summit]

Until Fatshark rightfully nerfs plasma

[terse idol]

[untold mulch]

Yes

[hard briar]

Yea.
Aim good

[terse idol]

Until GW makes plasmagun solely right click

You just dump CR

[hard briar]

They should nerf the fire rate. So true.

[terse idol]

because the increments of how fast your left click is gonna shoot is gonna be in the miliseconds

Its not noticible

[soft blade]

just make it so at any given moment the weapon can explode and kill you and your whole team

[junior needle]

Reminds me of a model my friend made by accident with his 3d printer. Behold brother baby legs.

[untold mulch]

Mf skipped leg day

[ivory rock]

Halo grunt stole some power armor fr

[hard briar]

Charge rate actually affected damage due to a bug at one point

[muted knot]

Go to the meat grinder and check if you can one tap all normal shooters

[junior needle]

Most of the games lifespan to be precise

[tiny summit]

I don't want plasmas dmg nerfed to the ground. It should be powerful. It's everything else about the gun. It's ammo pool with survivalist. It's tap fire penetration. It's tickle of venting dmg

[muted knot]

If you can find out if flak gives you a better onetap to the gunner

[hard briar]

Grunt Goblin mech

Looking mofo

[muted knot]

Or rather 2 tap

[hard briar]

Damn bro plasma has had NO ammo its entirely life.
The instant they give it ammo, you jump.on the League Of Haters

[untold mulch]

Btw your statement is that there is no lascannon for marines

or that the literal one used by Imperial Guard is not used?

[tiny summit]

Idk I came during class update

[hard briar]

Don't touch my Plasma

[serene orbit]

mfw I want to use helbores but the plasma outperforms them in every way

[tiny summit]

Pre-ordered the game. Didn't touch until class update

[hard briar]

We have suffered much from Fatsharks immense mental skillgap

[untold mulch]

confusion

[tiny summit]

Keep using helbores

[junior needle]

I rememeber when fatshark took like 6~ months to change plasma to not do damage directly to your health

[hard briar]

More

[serene sage]

Big dude called Maximumnon
Iron hand dude called Ferrus Magnus
Raven dude called Corvus Corax
Ultramarines are not ultra-marines but came from Ultramar
Land Raiders don't raid lands, they are named after Arkhan Land
Seriously, who wrote this shit

[soft blade]

keep using helbores in preparation for the inevitable plasma gutting

[serene orbit]

I mean the helbores feel so damn good to use, but when I do the same job five times as fast with the plasma, it's a struggle

[hard briar]

I remember when Plasma had a mag and half of ammo

[serene sage]

Angry dude named Angron

[untold mulch]

I remember when Fatshark pinky promised they didn't stop dev for PC because of Xbox port

[ivory rock]

normal as in big gunners or normal as in lil dudes? Lil dudes ya, gunnner gunners live with like 200 hp

[untold mulch]

I love it

[serene sage]

Perturb turbo dude called Peterubo

[tiny summit]

I was on a Japan job trip when it launched. Talked with friends and they said it was rough. So just kinda didn't pay it mind until I heard some news

[serene sage]

[untold mulch]

[hard briar]

I remember when THE PLASMA NOT BEING ABLE TO USE DEADSHOT WAS A FUCKING BUG AND THEY MADE IT FUCKING FEATURE AFTER IT WAS REPORTED AND CONFIRMED A BUG

[serene orbit]

mfw launch was rough and sucked but I still spent 600 hours playing

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/blark-and-son-blark-and-son-ill-never-forgive-this-gif-27683306

[junior needle]

You didn't miss much

[muted knot]

Scab and dreg gunners

The non ogryn ones

[ivory rock]

ye scab and dreg lived with like 200 hp

[untold mulch]

I dropped it quickly and was very mad for lost money

[muted knot]

After one normal headshot ?

[untold mulch]

I am still lowkey mad, because for all purposes I lost 10-15 bucks

[soft blade]

release was

[hard briar]

Yea so don't touch my plasma

[soft blade]

i felt so jaded

i went in thinking “surely this won’t be another VT2”

[tiny summit]

From all that I've heard, yea that shit sounded like ass. The leveling experience 1-30 after the class update was very pleasant

[serene sage]

im touching it

[ivory rock]

w crit mb, normal was 700-800 dmg

[tiny summit]

I'm only using plasma on the vape grenadier build

[soft blade]

stoner veteran

[hard briar]

I remember plasma could pen some of the walls
And not more than 3 poxwalkers

[tiny summit]

Break the chains. It feels good

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-suffering-death-star-wars-gif-25111888

[serene sage]

patch 13 was a mistake

come back to patch 12

[terse idol]

I thought all lascannons were field guns used by the guardsmen

[serene sage]

where we spam Bolter all day long

[terse idol]

[tiny summit]

Plasma should be powerful. I wouldn't hit its dmg. Penetrating an entire heretic regiment seems a lil excessive on tap fire

[serene sage]

one shotting crushers?

no problem

[hard briar]

No

[soft blade]

reject plasma return to bolter

[serene sage]

weak willed

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-phillips-boat-hijack-im-the-captain-now-barkhad-look-at-me-gif-4242563

[tiny summit]

VoC was a mistake.

[hard briar]

Bolter was a mistake

[soft blade]

just look in the direction of any enemy and they liquefy

[untold mulch]

[hard briar]

Included in the game to appease the weak ass fart E simps

[tiny summit]

Post mag dump clarity has a certain charm

[untold mulch]

So that

[soft blade]

post nerf bolter is awesome

[serene sage]

chaos has bolters too tbf

[hard briar]

And they're even weaker

[hard briar]

Literally just use up all the ammo on poxwalkers all so you could feel strong

[terse idol]

It depends wdym