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Ignore the tanners I was trying to find the wowlog hr was bragging about
Its my tab number that's the cool part damnit
Or rather the smiley face
lmao
clear your tabs
bitch stop living like this
im not sure about it, whats mostly used on plasmas
My.phone froze for a good 5 min
So...how many tabs?
And then it said something along the lines of 5k tabs closed
did you go to withdrawal or something 
4 hours left I can wakt
"Change hit and Run to Dum Dum"
smiley face amount of tabs
Don't be afraid I have 50 open on my phone atm
it should be fewer*
yes, close your tabs
cleanse your soul
get help
Gets hot and gloryhunter are great, I'd switch both perks. Perks are more important than blessings on plasma anyway. Someone might tell you to change glory to blaze away but I wouldn't, I'd utilize the T4 for defence and change both perks
my PC is the cleanest thing in my house 
idk what blaze away does
bro what the fuck
Was boring this time
PEER PPRESSURE WORKS
Im so proud
Damn
it gets you high as fuck
1000 tabs? you're insane
And makes you want to fight a bear
good lord dawg
It was 5k last time 😔
I thought it'd at least be 2k
Best I got was 3k
im ulimately concerned for your well being
Glory hunter is actually dope because you're shooting loads of elites with plasma. You generate so much toughness on top of CK
Well with how you be you'll get back there in no time 
how do you even open more than 10 tabs
Most of it being Texas pictures I didn't feel like closing in case I want to use them as pfps and provide credit
Well it's that plus symbol
On the top right
And yes most of it is art actually lmao
interesting
You're insane for this amount of tabs open. Damn bitch I have like at max like 50 when I'm going down a wiki rabbit hole
i think the most i've ever had open was 8
Based credit provider
I tend only to source my avatars from my own art or official art lol
Random question here from a guy that never posts. But with the parry from Devils Claw, does the effect last the duration of the animation or does it have to be exactly times with the attack?
I just keep tabs open of art so I don't forget to save it later
A digital hoarder so to speak
It lasts the duration, you don't have to time the attack
But no lappand love?
If you want to perfect parry though you'll need to time it
I organize my hyper fixations by monthly
Because there's a window right before you get hit by the attack where you can parry and lose no stamina
Sora/tex or lapp/tex
Hmm
Whisperain and Asbestos
Or sora/lapp/tex 🤔
Yes
And this works on crushers
Lmao
i didnt know artists only need to be fed grass
Is the parry the primary seller of devils claw and does it exist on other melee?
Only dclaws
Yeah
It has pretty decent horde clear
Kinda struggles on crushers though
Yea parry good. I don't use dclaws but parry good
I use dclaws primarily 
It's p good, waveclear is still doable but definitely slower than the more popular options
Pretty much, it's unique to the weapon and the main reason to use it. If you don't parry you're much better off using any other melee
That's debatable
I'm trying a dclaw lawbringer build despite 30 years of being anti-shotgun. Just see if it's worth it over the Cadis chain sword.
The devil claw is still a reliable pick if Hadron is fucking you over
Hmm you might need krak for Carapace there
There's 2 dump stats and like 6 good blessings
Why would I use dclaw (and not parry) when I could use PS, Rashad, or chainsword
I've avoided the shovels ONLY because they look so stupid.
Na surely his team got his back right? UwU
Because you won't be tearing your hair out grinding either a psword or a rashad
the rashad is such a pain in the ass to get a good build on though
I'm using smoke bomb. They take a couple extra seconds but there's some safety involved too.
Where you can just run, rampage, shred
Or rampage and savage sweep for a great horde clearing weapon
ofc the person saying shovel looks stupid uses smokes lol
Like, I can't suggest a rashad for a new player
Because the requirements are too high
Or the psword
Yeah
Yea I got one with 70-80 in everything but first target at like 60 with 15% unarmored. That shit was worse than my antax
Cause pc4 is hard to grind
That's why I say shovel
shobel is swagular
It's kinda hard to completely brick the new ones
And they are all rounders
Can deal with any target reasonably well
Idk what's so hard. I got mine first try

Why do the smokes look stupid? I'm looking for a connection for the insult to make sense.
Giggity
yeah same, I have like 4 PC4 naturally already

people just need to stop making the rookie mistake of rolling for the blessings they don't want

true
Pretty sure it's not that smokes look stupid and more that they are the most meme talent in the game
just will hadron to give you good rolls
I was like "OK gonna start my PC4 farm!" very next PS6 "hello there"
I mean, all weapons work fine. But if you're looking for recs I'm not going to point you at dclaw if you're not parrying. Chainsword has same recs as dclaw for good horde clear and does a better job
I mean
Then I'd apply it the same to chainsword
If you don't rev the chainsword
You might as well take a dclaw
Also, look guys, I came here specifically ask stupid questions. I'm a middle aged guy that is absolutely atrocious at my video games. I know my lot. So bagging on me and not just giving a straight answer helps nobody.
the rashad grind experience

Hello everybody my name is welcome
I gave you a straight answer wtf 😔
Like, yes you're right though
Am I too gay to make straight answers understandable
If you dont use the special function on the melee you have better options
Ik that feeling
guh
This wasn't about you. Thanks for chipping in though!
Why?
They're not very good
Because they're a little goofy
because they’re bad xd
Sorry I literally don't understand.
And compete with the best grenade
They're not bad persay
shredder my beloved
So very few people take them
smokes are just outclassed by both other options available
sorry but I also didn't exactly see a straight question
im assuming it's about smoke so smoke is generally low utility
it doesn't actually stop you from being shot at
it annoys teammates due to obscured vision
it doesn't help (nearly at all) against melee enemies
Well
Then there's me
Shred nades are amazing horde clear. Frag nades are amazing anti armor. Smoke grenades barely work and just obscure vision for your team. They have niche use but are barely worth any attention
Okay to be fair it does stop you from getting shot at depending on certain critetia
I prefer krak grenades but I think choosing them prevented me from choosing another talent I thought I needed.
meanwhile both frag and krak have a well defined role and can do lot more with a lot less efforts
Krak nades are szleeper now
Someone should make a "useless" build
Pick the worst shit of the tree
And give it a whirl
Actually you know what
I think mutants, trappers and dogs losing tracking in smoke is pretty good
That someone is me
Its folks deploy smoke wrong sometimes
yeah it's not completely useless
just outclassed is all
I gotchu don't worry
Frag grenades are bad for me. I have no idea why they take so long to explode but I am definitely crap at estimating their timing.
Gonna put Krak lower
😌
ah yes
Plasma suicide attack build
Splendid
Maximizes ur suicide bomb damage
Anyway, thank you all for your help, and I am genuinely sorry if I inflict my failure on you in the future.
the most resource possible to almost do what a krak grenade does 
Oh god that's even worse than what I was thinking
The tier list is
Shredder>smoke>krak
plasma suicide bomber 
Smoke grenades is so you can cover your approach
poggiest of build haha
Don't be sorry you're learning
also help to stop teammates from seeing the stuff you are attempting 
Run 3x wound curio ofc
very well thought out build
"Mah main goal is to blow up!"
the Aloha Snackbar build
Oh wait I shouldn't have the crate upgrades that helps people
Deadass I saw someone in the mourningstar with a build almost similar
you still have field improv though
I have a Zealot that i dont play that has a few 550 weapons with good blessings. I don't play her because I am honestly literally too shitty to play her on Heresy. That's how bad it is.
lord have mercy
chad 
vets, what is the best infantry lasgun right now?
is vet your most played?
specifically, one that can use deadly accurate+ headhunter
just not mk 2
The Ia
Really?
nice that is the one i just got DA4 on
Is now, yeah. It was the easiest way to bake in survivability that made sense.
Oh my coworker gave me hot chocolate
mg Ia with HH DA is pretty swag money
Nice
Ran a sedation mission, and frankly,I was starving for ammo XD
any specific perk breakpoints?
Is now, yeah. It was the easiest way to bake in survivability that made sense.
or just flakiac
Selfish runaway
You have a lot of useful things on that tree, let me fix that
I got a keystone too
Didn't feel.right if I didnt
yeah, vet isn't "tanky" but we have of lot of utilities that makes us hard to kill
I guess VoC makes us kinda tanky
Flak and maniac is what i’d recommend idk if flak in particular is worth but fs maniac
but also not really, it's weird
Ah yea there you go
born leader 
God who the fuck thought rending at only 10+ stacks was even a good thing to approve?
I like how you question that and not born leader and suppression bonus
Truly useless
Lol
Its crazy
I didn't look at it throughly, and born leader isn't horrible
Yea man no out for blood
oh no he said it 
Its gorrible
Determined is probably actually useful for this build
Look,I've got an entire build built around team support and toughness regen
Gotta drop it
I do too
In general I wouldn't take it ever
It's insane because like
I took every toughness share talent and a glory hunter on my pgun
But specifically for team support build,I take it
If they made it you gain a certain amount of rending PER STACK
The issue is if you're high toughness
rending should be propotional to stacks instead of bneing on /off
It wouldn't even be that shite
It doesn't do anything
2% rending per stack
And there's at least a few things that just
5% every 2 stacks
that might make the recon playable, and we can't have that 
Twin blast? Gross
That make sharing toughness useless
2% ain't shit. I still wouldn't grab it
Lmaoooo
Maximize sprinting so you can sprint to your death faster
Battle for the worst fucking build conceived to vet chat folks
You could have up to 30% rending, and add on the other 10% rending for 40%
I can still grab that 10% rending in the middle tree on my lasgun builds if I gave up some stuff
but but lowe profile stops you from dying 
why is it so hard to make a shitty build
truly vets are overpowered 
Low profile is for dumping aggro on team
Fucking discord on mobile
No it let's you sprint ahead more to pull more enemies before dying
So you can kill everyone else too
oh true, it lets you go out further so it's much harder for teammates to revive
5head
which is perfectly acceptable if your team is a bunch of pub garbage and facetanking is all they're good for lol
Is the criteria to make a bad build taking a keystone? Cause I'd just take the entire top of the tree and fire team
I wouldn't go that far lol
So imagine this
Keystone update
2% rending perk stack, max 30% at 15 stacks.
10% rending node
Onslaught for 40% brittleness
Recon lazgun
I don't play around my teammates, but I also try not to make their lives harder
memes aside
I usually take support items
30 percent is way over the top
Rending shouldn't be that easy to stack
I already don't like the design of onslaught personally
1.5%?
when you gotta relocate to land juicy headshots on a crusher pack because your zealot dropped a flame grenade to "fuck them up"
1% is fair imo
Well that's still only 10-15%
That is plenty

Rending normalizes the performance of all guns in extreme quantities
Since it doesn't do much past 100 percent armor modifier
We don't want all guns have the same dmg profile
Let me have my laz gun dream
Fixing recon is very simple
lases are fine, it's just recon imo
I still think 15 stacks is dogwater compared to free stacks
granted, but your flashlight is still attached
so you turn it on off everytime you melee
But then again I think MF needs a buff and node changes.
I want my full auto gunsword

ammo too low or is this good?
It's good
ammo shouldn't matter too much
It's good
It'll live at least
I would go for it
It gets ammo back in generous quantities so it doesnt matter
Honestly think the most valuable thing on MF is possibly have 25% bonus toughness replenish which is what you're doing with headshots and elite/special kills
one of these won't get bricked
hopefully
don't jinx it 
Mainly it's kinda like blazing piety keystone
Hadron looking at you like 
The right side is good
It's good. Not your God roll to never stop searching but it's good. You'll like get another mag or mag and a half
thats not jinxing
Or could be better
thats faith
ok so
Blazing Piety though gives more synergy because crit chance let's the zealot use abilities more.
Not a good start 
Yeah
I was just saying in terms of the left and right subnodes
And how good they are
Also I'd like MF to give crit
That's all I want from it tbh
Crit per stack but idk if that would be too good for automatics
it would be my 6th bricked agri iag
MF and Helbores/Vraks should be a match made in heaven. Only interesting thing is 1 tapping ragers with mk2 to me. Otherwise I've killed things like 2 times over with the overkill
hadron does not want me to have a good one
I stopped using marksman focus on v7 since it just doesn't feel very impactful
Not hard to stack but
I still use it with my helbore because I do like 1 tapping more enemies and if I miss the head and crit I'm getting something a lil bit. Also copium that Born Leader with ET and CK are doing something
Started doing focus target with only the stam regen subnode to keep deadshot going in prolonged shootouts
And it feels better
I could understand, weapon specialist is a decent alternative for that tho,at least for now
I personally hate that focus target is a thing
Marksman focus doesn't help me hit any breakpoints unless I crit
equipping this instantly breaks both your legs
So I might as well just keep crits going
Fuck breakpoints
With focus target stam
What if exec stance gives some crit bonus as well 
Why?
Yeah but the right tree is very low synergy with v7
Automatic weapon,exec stance and weapon specialist+ Deadshot = yes for crits
I do it if I feel like taking powersword but I usually use shovel for fun
That's true
Exe and weapon spec is tooo expensive
And I need the monstro dmg node deep in middle so my v7 can do OK dmg to monstros then lol
Since shovel vs boss is fucking sad
It's a free mechanic. What is supposed to just be a information mechanic to the team to spot enemies now just turns it into a spamming pinata debuff on enemies
And have no synergy
Specifically automatic weapons and weapon spec don't go too well together
I agree, but for burst dmg
I wish exploit weakness worked on ranged
Like you're giving free dmg, toughness, and stam off of just killing a tag. Something you have been doing since the start and now every one of your tags is a pinata
Cause +33% crit chance and +20% fire rate
Would be great with wep spec
Swap into ranged wep for guaranteed crit
So you can inflict 10 brittle
Ya that would be nice
What blessings do i want on a shovel
No clue
There's a lot of decent ones
Thrust/limb/uncanny for anti elite
Uncanny seemed nice. Im just not sure
For mk 3 I like whipping out limbsplitter and thrust
Deci/skullcrusher/uncanny kinda for hordes
Just for killing orgyn's tho
All or nothing+ take a swing is a combo too
I have hammerblow (locked) and thrust on my mk3 shovel
Don't shovel have a blessing for dmg vs staggered
give it gigastupid finesse multiplier and watch all iags become obsolete overnight 
Yes
I'm glad I came back to shovel
That's skullcrusher
Hammerblow isn't meta but I don't feel like farming shovels and I find it funny to knock everything down with lights
Which spiked shovel is better for hordes?
I don't think I can go back to powersword
They're both fine
Mk6 is easier to use for hordes though
Shovels stagger pretty well,id take it with uhhhh uncanny
Ahh. Ill just try mk 6
But the special is noticeably slower
can spike shovel one shot maulers?
Spam heavy for mk6, spam lights or alternate light heavy for mk3
All or nothing/uncanny on the folding shovel is one I really like with deadshot builds
It gets stuck for a bit
I think it one-shot crushers even if you build for it
But then you run no horde blessings prob
Betting its something like thrust limb
Yep
I haven't tried it though
Only things ik that one shot crushers for melee is knife and chain axe
That power sword definitely does work but it definitely lacks in satisfying feel to me
Shovel bonks feel and sound better
Sexy
Mine need to 2 shot. I need a better one
Well you give up a horde blessing to do that
Yeah
It's why I labelled it my anti crusher
That's why I said it's nice for someone new
It's hard to have it fuck up and brick completely with so many options
True. But I definitely feel like I need to get something other than hammerblow. Knocking them around is funny. Think I need dmg tho
It is
It is
Oh
I like skullcrusher more though
Deci resetting all stacks on a miss feels too bad to me personally
Me first shovel and when I realized they were good
Yo
That's uncanny
It'll be quite the decimator
It's a good get off me stick
But damn...it not having the flip for crushers and maulers makes me not use it as much
The unfortunatcy
Why do people not ping on low vis missions
Still have never tried either of these weapons, I feel like the game is telling me to
Button broke clearly
jfc i even ask cause i have visual impairment
inb4 next game i get one of those useless dorks who bind to ping to m1
Have you considered that they just dont see the enemy?
Not bad,tho I prefer the mk 4 chain axe
not dodging lights out is a skill issue so good players don't play it 
i just want to farm plasteel
Lights out is fun though
they are down
they have nothing better to do
What's the difference
Smh they are checking their phones, change their music
i'm legally blind and snipers aren't the only thing in the fog
Mk 4 light attacks do the saw attack with rev
So good vs armor
there's a special directional indicator mod that you may find useful
Quickplay enjoyer 
maybe they are also legally blind
link it
But gets stuck every swing that isn't a none rev heavy
Usually when i get downed i take that time to check my phone or drink something because i cant while fighting maybe theyre doing that
well i ping what is their excuse
that shovel is swagular
but i only have one ping
obese megalodon doesn't want you to know this but you can quit lights out matches and requeue
But I ain't no coward
I am
Backing down from a game
and get sent right back in?
too much crayon eating as kids
I'm afraid of milsim brainrot game design
No balls
aka ''what if we made the map dark''
I have never been placed back in a game I left tbf
thank you a ton
at least fog modifier is somewhat interesting
i have, 3 times in a row
it has some thought behind it
Did you quit the mission or Alt f4?
I do think Lights Out is a terrible full mission modifier. It should be like a section of a map has a chance of being lights out
Also I guess it can happen if it's a smaller server
Requing? With darktides load times?
Feels a little like cheating, it's usually not an issues to whip around 180 shove and turn back around
Tfw I like lights out 😔
But to be fair,I use the hp bar mod
30 seconds off my life vs 30 minutes of garbage gameplay
esc leave mission
Ah then I have no idea then
i like it for countering silent specials
How are you getting thirty seconds
Unlucky, ig
Or maybe instead of lights out all the time, it's a modifier that makes sections go out randomly for X amount of time
I use spidey sense for bursters
not really, it's accessibility
fortnite has it base line
I dunno if the game is built for that
Its not really accessibility imo
Idc if it's cheating if they still haven't fixed silent specials, silent burstsrs are my only tilt factor
Like, it's tell you what's behind you
Accessibility for who? I can understand due to silent busters otherwise
for people with disabilities
What if youre deaf
deaf for example
No sound ques
Oh that's fine
I'd play it if they made it more interesting than ''haha you can't see shit enjoy fuckhead''
I....play deaf and don't really have the problem
But I'm sure the majority of people playing darktide using this mod isn't deaf
But that's valid
this would be a massive improvement
But I agree, valid
Flashlight tho
personally if you play darktide while in a wheelchair? fuck you dude
I still can't decide if I should pass on it
There are worse mods out there
Like the one mod to tell you which skull to repair next
Doubt it too. But I think it'd be more interesting having moments of darkness over having a mode a not insignificant amount of people avoid
I like having just a small tunnel of vision
yeee let me just change equipment after I loaded into an ongoing match
The amount of times I've managed to dodge a trapper off sound que alone is at least 50
I stick flashlights on most my guns tbf
lights out exists so fatshart can excuse the existence of flashlight attachment
So maybe that's why I like them 
I couldn't imagine playing without some kind of indicator
DHs have increased spawn probability but I think that's it.
Oh I'm aware, but I play deaf alot and still dodge stuff. Like if you're legit deaf of course it's fine, and as expected I get grabbed more while deaf but still less then some 
Most of the guns I play don't have very helpful alt actions anyway
yeee wooow DH so fuuuun
I love daemonhosts
I mean
they lead to great team bonding moments
I love it when my 25 IQ ogryn throws a rock at it
Challenge run: kill all demon host
DHs are fun. Just don't poke the bear
i can’t see AND there’s more demon hosts for my randoms to aggro !!!
Falling off ledges because I literally can’t see one meter in front of me. So much fun!
Daemon hosts arent even hard to kill randos just suck at building there loadouts
Idk I like lights out monstro a lot
The lights enemies emit is often more than enough
Uh skissue

Some plogryn or spawn charging from behind and freaking everyone out is funny
Brother,I'm legally blind in my right eye and about half way in my left WHAT DO YOU MEANNNN YOU CAN'T SEE EM
Having moments of darkness is cool. Lights Out for an entire run has its novelty wear out
There's only 1 map I can think that you'll just fall off
Because there's not often like, random random holes
The only modifier I don't like is extra bursters extra barrels
Like poxwalker eyes glow in the dark. It's hard not to see them
And still you can see like 10ft in front of you to see a hole
I had a map last night my whole team fell off and left me as the veteran to save everyone, which me and my recon headass did
Nah conga lines of bursters are fun...promise 
It's a boring modifier until someone launches you off the map
There should he a extra light modifier, bloom increased by 100%
What do you mean you dont like having half your health in corruption the entire match?
Then it's just tilting
Discord lightmode
Promptly got "veterans op need nerf"
From fucking who
just have all the pox walkers wear suicide vests made out of flashbangs
I have this cursed run Imma upload. Start of match I went from like max hp to like 10% max cause of like 4 bursters around a corner
Me with a recon and claw is op.
Sounds like they have a skill issue
Literally
Psyker is difficult
It is, but you gotta be aware of a ledge
Ya,that was a situation awareness issue
recon las op needs nerf 
Nooo
I started on psyker, and you're squishy but can be nutty
plz remove from gaem
I only just got it good again:(
Debating if I get rid of dumdum and go headhunter / inferus
Recon las op, nerf pls fatshark. Helbores are too hard to use and bayonet clunky. Plz buff
buff blasma gun bls fat shart
Plasma too slow make it like revolver
God I've been using helbores and infantry las for so long, used plasma for the vape build and my god is the gun overtuned
plasma is just hilarious
And there'll be people in the reddit who swears it has drawbacks
It certainly doesn't help that its biggest downside is completely negated by surv
Lmao it just unlocks the hotshot
i generally use pretty mid tier weapons but i’ll slap that thing on once in a while and go catatonic while carrying
Actually that would be cool, achievement based cosmetics,that unlock weapons associated with it's lore
"Oh you have to vent with toughness!" Oh that toughness that is instantly regen'd off CK because youre killing almost all the elites and specials with like 4-6 CK stacks going off at once
If a set unlocked the hotshot? I'd be fuxking poor my guy.
Its so tiny
Yea the toughness vent is a joke
I'd throw my wallet at the screen
Not bought, achievement based
Set bonuses
literally name one good reason not to main the knife that isn't "I don't snort mountains of cocaine" and "My hands cannot withstand the newtonion equilivent of the flash trying to warm his hands up because he's cold."
I'd throw me at the screen.
Good god that'd be awful
I think the only "dmg" nerf I would give plasma is its cleave off tap fire
Shit would probably be more expensive
Its not a chainsword
I have one and I don't like it
I've been wanting a hotshot
fair
That's why it's not bought, but you do an achievement,get something cosmetic related and weapon related unlocked
Like a hellgun, not a lasgun running hot packs
its small
teeny tiny blade
I'm not British
hotshot las is just gonna be a matter of time teebeehaych
Bro drives a raised F350
It better be lmao
i can’t imagine they don’t add it
Me either
Imagine power knife
Adding the scion helmet they gotta add the set too
Its too much of a cash cow
People love kreig and scions loo
After that it's probably catch or drop troopers
I'm not buying that scion helmet until it's in a better color
i’m betting it’s gonna be catachan stuff next
Black would be sick.
For the drip
Only 1.4k helm I bought was the Krieg helm
That's my line atm. I've given fatshark enough money
That should've been in the fucking bundle
Theres a black one in the files if i remember correctly. Along with a set
Buff you better not be teasing me
The team needs to see my drip
He's not
green scion helmet is weird
This gif disturbs me
Look at this bad boy
Oh fuck yeah

That's the shit
Payday cloaker sounds
Fox give
You use that recon?
Give it here.
Not mine 
The heretics need to talk shit like the cloaker
No ❤️
Lmao
Heard they are rotating the store this week?
Safe word is police brutality
power knife would probably just break your wrist
“we call this a difficulty tweak” burster explodes
Needs to be a mod
It was funny when the trapper voice was getting bugged and she was like going through all her lines at once
god I feel like a dirty budget knife zealot with the combat knife
Fucking possessed heretic
"Go onto the forums and cry like a bitch!" Or whatever that one quote is
What would hounds become
Would fit trapper way too well
The worst thing I've had is 1 bursters sound spawn 50 sound ques
Couldn't tell where it was
"Now go to the forums, and CRY LIKE THE LITTLE BITCH YOU ARE."
that's the full quote
Thanks
pd2 cloaker lines still live rent free in my head despite not playing pd2 for a long time
Always great when the game spawns a burster right above you and the sound ques start going off like crazy even though its not there
If you were to add meme based shit talking, what would the hound say
Hmmm
weapon specialist is also really popular
take a bath you smell worse than nurgle
Weapon specialist is goated
I've been hard-core just using focus target as it helps guide people lol
People love the look of the colour yellow
Weapon specialist struggles with certain weapons
i use MF for infantry las
Use a shotgun with weapon specialist
I got a build for ya then
Alrighty
fuck you hadron
Niceee
My personal build
anyways, thoughts on the Infantry lasguns same as always, something about bullet weapons make me enjoy them more
"a new marvel is awoken" 
Pain
MF enjoyer here
it is not looking good here
Bullets feel like they have more kick behind them
666 kills 
Lasers have no kick
Using recon as its my favourite I tend to use focus with stam regen / tough regen (higher than malice) and damage for malice or lower.
Then just brittle stack and rending spam lol
Least complicated DT scoreboard
yeah the recoil could be toned down a bit
A NEW HAND
For the build,I recommend blasting a few shots at whatever,get in close for melee,5-10 stacks swap back,blast a few rounds and go back to melee. The agri will reload 4-5 shells at 10 stacks, and has effective 1-2 tap juice
TOUCHES THE BEACON
i only really have a problem with it on the mg 12
No balls. Pull the lever
that gun kicks stupid hard
god i hate that quest
I'll keep that in mind
Too much reading
Just kills and overall damage is needed
Maybe how many rocks have been thrown too
rock throw counter is 100% needed
Sit in meat grinder and play around with it
Vek and I played about 1/3 of the mission with 2 other bots, was pain.mkv
i’d also like to see a counter for daemon host aggros
if I don't see 100 rocks have been thrown, you're off the team
Isn't rock regen 60s?
Yep
Reasoning: shotgun gives melee boost,it's very mobile. Melee gives crit buff and fire rate buff,with ammo restore from reserves. So you can absolutely slam 13 shells in a few seconds if u have to. Also note, you can swap back to shotgun with 1 stack to reload 1 shell
shotgun vet is a blast
Noted
altho likely not optimal, i managed to perform ok with the slug shotgun and volley fire
It's my fav
I don't think it needs volley personally
Yeah that's how I run mine as well
it rly doesn't, but watching yellow outlines disappear from the fog is satisfying
Exe good. VoC for the weak
Slug with Volley
I thought it was buffed to 45 seconds. Am I capping?
plus i needed the methodical penance
Need is a strong word.
It's just a different playstyle
Just looked. It is 45s
Also the chamber reload is really nice for ES
Noice, niche fact memory for the win
i only realized today that the slug round has really really good armor pen, and i reworked all my builds to make up for that fact
Since you can reload a few rounds and keep chaining shots
Ex stance is fine but it feels very uncomfortable to use
Not being able to switch weapons is very rough
I love ex stance lol
I'm not bashing em for it,I understand. I just don't feel like it needs it unless you're getting some real range, but I like to be mid-mid close when I'm doing shotgun
I tend to run it with frags and I toss one at my feet before starting just in case
Yeah it's cool.
Helbore
I think it's safer to run shotty without ES
No swap needed
Exec stance could benefit from either thoughness regen (susfire we miss you) or allowing switch
But I just think the synergy is neat, even if it's not "optimal"
I agree
I use it with infantry las
Exec stance is how I hit 17000 on the beast of nurgle
Feels like a min. Never fast enough to get them back
I have to choose between either wasting my ability or i have to constantly weave between the two poxwalkers attacking me while i pick off ranged enemies
Damage is fine but id really like some QoL buff on exec
Like?
You can get toughness off the heads you click and/or elite/specials you kill. I don't see it as a toughness thing. To me it's just kinda ass base duration and needing 2 points to feel like a full skill
Like not stopping on switch for starter
There's plenty of rocks but it takes a moment to find the perfect one to rag doll the mutants
That would be nice
For what lol
I'd want more dmg. Keeping exe up off refresh is easy. I want more dmg and longer base duration. Fuck toughness, I already have toughness
removing the anti synergy of volley fire and weapon specialist would be great
you're not an ogryn, you wouldn't understand the difficulty it is to find the perfect rock
Somehow field improv vet found at least 4 in every ammo box 
Gimme that scion outfit lol
Maybe a node for more dmg the longer you keep it up?
I don't need more point tax
I actually love field improv lol
Scion helmet is still there, and you can use the 21st recon as a proxy haha
A present for the big man
Unless of course they changed all of them
outta curiosity, how do y'all feel about stealth vet
Fun
The outfit though foxxxx gimme the body
Meme
Imagine being the vet, hearing rattling in the ammo box. Open it.
fucking rocks in the ammo
I'm not sure I get the playstyle yet
Underrated a bit too
Good if player good
Bad if player bad

I dont like stealth ppl in my team
Fuck whoever thought ogryn highlighting deserved a point that is mutually exclusive with marking ALL riflemen
Extending the group marking node for elites/specials on refresh would be cool. Adding synergy the shooter and ogryn marking to the group team marking nodes as well but that might be annoying to some people
I'm a bad player so that's no good
Stealth is fine imo if used correctly
Cope and seeth 😆
Imo smoke nade needs some lovin'
Stealth is one of the few ability that can grief your mates
I don't like bad stealth ppl on my team
Fun. Good for objectives in games. Definitely more reliant on just loadout
I am! Is it an old set I've missed or just not out yet?
I don't like ppl on my team
I think that's just an old set recolored
I remember seeing the backpack
It's a good thing ogryns don't count as humans
the horror that is having 3 stealth ults on your team
Smoke nades seem so redundant. Gotta go through all this thinking and strategizing when you can just pick up a krak and insta kill a crusher
I think it's the Cadian set
So with my auric randoms I ask if they like highlights. Most say they appreciate it
Not the current one but there has been a few Cadian sets
Smokes need to stamina buff in various ways
Yeah makes sense
It's the vox backpack that comes out fairly often
Well I'm hoping for a good refresh in the store thrusday lol
Yeah it seems cool, I like seeing someone using it but I don't expect anyone to use it lol
I heard the mod is a little janky to use
Wait there's a drip mod!?
That's how the recolor was done lol
...
That set was a mod
Gimme
Is this too much for a combat axe?
"Everyone get that guy"
Wtf am I looking at
A combat axe
Only more thirst
Obviously
No
Hot damn
or this?
I'm a shovel enjoyer now
Vet ability: just point blank 2k grain single shot pistol
hammer time
Been liking my Exe MF builds. So I now have it usually.
Need my vet to pull out a comically large pistol and shot something
I have regular extended customization but not the extended extended one lol, stops me from putting the TH head on my knife
The dullest axe
Me looking at a pox walker with my ogryn sized pistol ( I'm about to explode him and shatter my bones)
do y'all use the double grenade skill
Do it, so much fun
Yes (meme)
Don't like percent chance perks personally
Auric ready
Ogryn ability: comically large spoon ( comically large even for an ogryn)
If I ever have the spare point (I don't)
yeah, a chance-based skill for your most limited resource is not my forte
I usually run krak nade so there isnt much of a reason to
not to mention I can't imagine it'd ever find use outside of boss killing with kraks. was just curious if it had some secret niche I didn't know about
Does it make a noise so you know it proccs? I know you toss 2 out but I'd probably miss it and throw a second anyway

I didn't know archon of flesh played darktide
Tossing 4 frags for the price of 2 would be pretty funny though
Aztec wepon
Now that's a name I didn't expect to see here 
That them?
Probably not
I just read the name 
psyker axe time lmao
but simping for hadron would be very in-character
I found a priest of nurgle
can't blame him
this is beyond cursed
Lmao wtf
Remember chat, Hadron says Good Varlet to everyone
You're not special
I would 100% use the double grenade skill if it were in some way guaranteed
I'll take harem duty
Most general value is running with shredders. Shredders have better aoe. 2 kraks may just miss
more tactical zaza coverage?
If 5% off elite/special kill I get guaranteed grenades, I definitely see 20% happen.
20% double smokes is funny
Grief your teammates mostly
No
They don't land far enough from each other to make any difference
Makes you happy you got the 20% to happen...that's probably it lol
Unless 1 hits geometry that changes its spot
It unironically does though 
Like 5 out of the 5 times it procs in 100 games you would be like dang that's neat
Imagine taking both smoke and twins unironically

I have been laughing every time it happens with this joke build
You're right, I only do it ironically 
need more mats
Yea...haha
anywho I've been playing like an 18 year old femboy high on ritalin and monster with this build lately and it's been great fun
Someone explain to me,why THE FUCK don't we have an elephant gun as a shotgun option
What's an elephant gun
Isnt that the agri ?
Like the kickback?
p much
dat shovel tho 
I'd say operation hotbox was successful
I hate how the shotguns don't fire pump action. that's all I ask for
Drum mag shotgun when
Big ass double barrel rifle I believe
dig the grave and fill em with this one versatile tool
Shovel is the only melee weapon I dont have a god tier version of
BEHOLD
man doesn't like semi auto shotgun smh
Cause that be too much effort.
I'd prefer demo team over rending. Just because I like more nades
I like the funny crrk crrk sound after I fire
It should be an ability
And no, you will not get closer to hunt
Fuck, you know
Gives me that guy from hellboy vibes
valid though I think rending is too good to pass up and shovel is so good at horde clearing I don't need to go monke on the boombooms
I'm just saying, If it was an ability,I could be like "see that pack of crushers?" BANG "not anymore ya don't"
I agree it's great at clearing, though I love the claw for surviving lol
I hope if we ever get double barrels they just act like the shotguns' special rounds at all times
Fair enough. Just been so used to having demo team as my only regen
that's what the plasma is for, delete the problems the way the founding primarchs intended
If you listen closely it whispers "rip and tear"
I thought that was @finite imp's knife?
uncanny strike shovel says "I don't need no silly rending talent"
Use the twin link and single tap fire only pretending it's a shotgun
Idea
I've rarely used plasma, though it is indeed fun
It's the same I promise
boss headshot crit damage gets funni
me approaching a horde
The voices call for their flesh
Double barrel shotgun
Special perks
Kills give up to 150% reload speed
20% crit naturally
Does more DMG based on those killed in last shot
Doom shotgun!
It has a DMC effect, more kills = more doom music
Tbf I'd love better blessings that encourage the gun to be used how it should tbf
I mean, we do have side-by-side shotties in the files
We do?
are you allowed to discuss datamined things on this server lol
I feel a ton of the ranged weapon blessings are a tad meh
It's just spreading information that is already out there
Think so. People kept posting the scion helmet that was in the files and other cosmetics
ah
No one calls the cops
well in that case, yes there is a double barrel in the files
either that or my friend sent me a very convincing image of a mod lol
Do u have the image perchance
good stuff
big fan of shotguns so i'd kill for one that doesn't deal with one-by-one reloading
it wasn't until i learned you can cancel reloading with ADS that i really started liking the shotguns