veteran-class

[frank ether]

its meant to be a spam pistol

its got a speedloader and everything

[warm steeple]

hello i wanna ask which one is better the Columbus mkv or gria mk viii

[light ore]

just give it hella recoil

something that can be deterministically controlled

instead of "there is a random 30% chance your bullet doesn't hit"

[frank ether]

I'd wish they did that for zarona

and tone down on bullet size

[tall torrent]

Columnus overall better rn

Graia has lower recoil and that’s abt it

[warm steeple]

oh i see

[light ore]

remove magnitism and maybe nerf bodyshot damage a little?

[warm steeple]

im new to this game i just reached lvl 30

idk what else to do

[light ore]

see how zarona is from there

[tall torrent]

Now u can play the real game of farming for better gear

And playing damnation/auric

[frank ether]

I also kinda dont mind at this point

this game is very casual in the end

FS is fine with ppl rejoining to abuse bot revives

[warm steeple]

quick play damnation on auric level operations

rite ?

or special assignment on the bottom

[flint onyx]

You might want to avoid the auric section if you just reached lvl 30 with your first character

[tall torrent]

What’s the main difficulty you’re comfortable with rn

[terse idol]

it's just not good either

lmao

[warm steeple]

Damnation for sdure

[hardy pollen]

I’d suggest playing with people you can communicate with

[frank ether]

its just ironic they went apeshit OP with the old revolver and went so cautious with the new one

[hardy pollen]

Because damnation and heresy really require it

[terse idol]

I mean

They even nerfed it

[frank ether]

haha

[terse idol]

like oh my goodness

[frank ether]

''nerf''

[terse idol]

Yeah

[frank ether]

more like a slap in the wrist

[terse idol]

Handcannon nerf 🥹

[frank ether]

oh noo

I'll have to shoot crushers twice through an entire horde now

boohoo lmao

[neat stratus]

So I remember people saying "don't use the revolver unless you wanna get the 90% accuracy achievement"

[gusty bison]

Frankly for zarona

Nerf cleave

Nerf bullet magnetism

[neat stratus]

Did it become op or did people find out it was?

[gusty bison]

Wait and see

[frank ether]

either make a precision weapon

[gusty bison]

It got buffed too much

[frank ether]

or make an easy weapon

don't make two together

[gusty bison]

Ye

[frank ether]

thats the issue its easy and it makes other precision guns look bad

[gusty bison]

A precision weapon that has bullet magnetism and cleave is ass

Yep

[terse idol]

who the hell said that

[frank ether]

It used to be rather bad at release

[terse idol]

I mean

[frank ether]

but back then that perception is

[terse idol]

We had nothing on release

[frank ether]

well

[terse idol]

[frank ether]

release bolter was a thing

[terse idol]

even the CIAG wasn't good on release

[gusty bison]

I think new volver might have movement inaccuracy

[earnest lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-berserk-rage-berserk-rage-berserk-guts-rage-gif-24940544

I just pulled a clutch. 3 crushers, 1 bulwark, a horde, around 4 machine gunners and a sniper almost way out of area, and a bunch of gunmen.

[frank ether]

it was a different game yes but release bolter was basically better revolver with more ammo

[terse idol]

Don't compare on release jesus

[frank ether]

why would I compare for patches

the game was absolutely dead

who cares

[terse idol]

Yeah

because it's better

Than on release

[dusk kernel]

ye

[frank ether]

oh no revolver was bad before fatshark decided to revive the game kekw

[cedar pecan]

bro aint stopping nothing

[frank ether]

I mean, braced autos do

[gusty bison]

Mhm

[frank ether]

so I'd assume it also changes cone based on stance

[gusty bison]

It would make sense

[frank ether]

thats actually good gameplay mechanic

I like that

[gusty bison]

Standing still it seems to be accurate

New volver that is

[crude fiber]

its done

[earnest lotus]

Overall not bad tho imo

[frank ether]

I'd wish cover would give you a cone buff aswell for braced weapons

[crude fiber]

big heretic coming in to promote mid weapons

[warm steeple]

whats the meta for weapon rolls?

[frank ether]

depends on weapon

[gusty bison]

Depends on the weapon?

[warm steeple]

i would say

columbus mk5

[frank ether]

when in doubt you can inspect weapon to see what each stat affects

[gusty bison]

Its like

Dum dum + a damage/power blessing

And perks are to ur own tastes

[frank ether]

for autoguns

flak/maniac are most ideal

[gusty bison]

IAGs really dont have breakpoints so

[flint onyx]

Flakiac perks in 95% of cases

[gusty bison]

flak/stamina >:3

[frank ether]

I'd take stamina

[gusty bison]

Nah

A LOT dont

[frank ether]

but crit chance better imo

[gusty bison]

CC/Stamina

There we go

[frank ether]

thats too much lol

[earnest lotus]

I mean without stopping power it's still not BAD but it's not great either

[frank ether]

I like my maniac at least

[crude ermine]

Scary

[gusty bison]

DEADSHOT LETS GO

[gusty bison]

Eh IAGs have great maniac dps

[sage cipher]

just snagged this

[frank ether]

I might join the +9 stamina brainrot playstyle

[gusty bison]

:3

[frank ether]

already doing like +6

[sage cipher]

cleave roll could be better

[earnest lotus]

My Brother, the whole game is brain rot.

[gusty bison]

+11

Barcode GAMING

[crude ermine]

WE CAN'T GO FURTHER

[white minnow]

to go... even further... and beyond!!!

[frank ether]

I really appreciate deadshot the more I play

as in

vet has a lot of ranged weapon focused stuff

but only deadshot is well designed

which past me would laugh at

[crude ermine]

You smell

[frank ether]

yes

I carry feesh in my pocket

[crude fiber]

+12 from curios, weapon and perk node, + 56% block from effieceny from curios and weapon and or +85% sprint effeciency from curios weapon and perk node for ultimate meme build

[terse idol]

well designed?

eh

It's oka y

[frank ether]

its pretty interesting for a talent choice

[terse idol]

It just kinda

[frank ether]

better than the stupid keystone

[gusty bison]

It has a lot of nice synergy

[terse idol]

Lol

MF is fun

come on man

[frank ether]

much better than the exec stance

[terse idol]

Like oh my god

[frank ether]

the main thing is

[terse idol]

God forbid

[frank ether]

with deadshot

[terse idol]

Something isn't as OP

As the other OP options

[frank ether]

your success/fail is in your control

[terse idol]

[frank ether]

you decide when you ads when you hipfire how you manage stamina

[terse idol]

Well

You decide it as much as like

You play a slow firing weapon

[frank ether]

with exec/mf how you do depends on how the AI director and your teammates feel

[terse idol]

no

[strange grove]

marksman focus is kinda mid with how kinetic and almost moving you have to be

[frank ether]

yes

[terse idol]

For real MF just means

[gusty bison]

Columnus. IAG.

[terse idol]

You play to take care of yourself

It's just silly

To assume your teammates

[frank ether]

I can troll the fuck out of Exec players

[gusty bison]

:P

[terse idol]

HAVE to baby sit you

[frank ether]

no lmao

[terse idol]

yes

yes it is

[frank ether]

you dont even understand

[terse idol]

I play

Or played*

MF on Auric damn

I just do my job

Take out every shooter

[crude ermine]

sometimes I gamble between shout and exe

[terse idol]

take care of myself

[frank ether]

All I have to do is stand in front of you and your exec is gone

[terse idol]

Nobody's watching me

[terse idol]

I mean

[frank ether]

MF? I'll leave chaff

[terse idol]

I can just

[frank ether]

and your mf stacks are gone

[terse idol]

Sit in front of you

The whole game

If you'd like

If you think griefing someone is a valid argument whew

[frank ether]

sure, I can just not ads

[terse idol]

that's tough

[light ore]

i'm of the opinion you should take the "stand still gives you mf stacks" keystone

[crude fiber]

"this thing i bad cause i troll people that use it"

[light ore]

really improves the uptime

[strange grove]

MF is great until you need to move

oh wait thats the whole game lol

[crude ermine]

I will cry and post on Reddit about you

[frank ether]

its not trolling when teammates get in front of you

[light ore]

and you don't have to do stupid stuff like shooting poxwalkers to get stacks

[frank ether]

its how the game works

[terse idol]

It is good

[frank ether]

ogryns do it unintentionally

[light ore]

can use it more consistently against bosses

[crude ermine]

Grr

[terse idol]

And you gain maximum Focus stacks very fast

[terse idol]

No no

Your stance was

"I can fuck your keystone if I stand in front of you"

Yeah

[crude fiber]

then why you say it like you were doing it on purpose

[terse idol]

If I can fuck your play style if I stand in front of you shooting

lol

[light ore]

like, you have GREAT MF uptime with that keystone upgrade

[terse idol]

Like woah my keystone

based around shooting

[stiff merlin]

I'm trying to remember if I like the MKIII shovel or not....

[terse idol]

Is bad when someone intentionally stands in front of me

Gun psyker must be terrible

gun lugger too

Because

[frank ether]

Is it trolling if I'm shooting your target so your exec expires or dodge into your shot?

[terse idol]

I can stand in front of them

And block bullets

So therefore the keystone is bad

[stiff merlin]

I'm currently using a VII that I really like but the III has hiring rating

[frank ether]

its just factor outside of your control

[crude fiber]

no but thats not how you originally worded it,

[frank ether]

it will happen to you

[terse idol]

I mean, there's often times

so many targets

That you'll be either able to

reset exe

Or

There's no more threats

to shoot

so it runs out anyways

If you're shooting my exe target

I can just

Pick another

The times I use Exe to reset

Are times where there's ALOTTA shooters

I'll be able to get resets

[frank ether]

bruh

[terse idol]

Why you bruhing me

I take MF and exe

To clear screens

Of gunners

[frank ether]

so you yourself agreeing with my own argument

[terse idol]

You killing the same target

[frank ether]

this discord is so silly

[terse idol]

Isn't gonna make me lose exe

?

What the

Hell

[frank ether]

''exec value is situational based on teammates/AI director''

[terse idol]

Yes

[frank ether]

''NOoO I only use it when the game throws gunner waves at me''

[terse idol]

Because it's focused around shooting gunners and some elites

Uh

Yes

[frank ether]

you are agreeing with me

[terse idol]

Sorry

I mean is this bad

It's a different play style

I can clear a screen of shooters

Better than voc can

Or

Focus target

[slow spade]

I would hope so UwU

[gusty bison]

[terse idol]

I mean't to say

[gusty bison]

Gonna disagree on that one tbh

[terse idol]

Focus target

WHAT

[gusty bison]

VoC is batshit insane

[terse idol]

It is

But it is a close range on you

gunners can still ruin your day

[gusty bison]

The ability to tank a gunner wave is nuts

[terse idol]

True

[gusty bison]

Exec cant tank

[terse idol]

This is why

I take Exe and MF

[slow spade]

VoC should apply 1400 flat damage to all gunners to be competitive with Exec UwU

[terse idol]

So I can create

Toughness

[gusty bison]

And you kinda have BPs anyway

[terse idol]

To tank gunner waves

[gusty bison]

Like i cant think of a gun that benefits much from exec to hit gunner BP

[terse idol]

Now that isss

The problem

[gusty bison]

Maybe iLas?

[terse idol]

Ilas...

Uh

I don't know if I have a good enough iLAS to test

Most of your talents give you the BP

[crude ermine]

And it should make you immediately covered in yellow (enemies can't see yellow) to be competitive with infiltrate

[terse idol]

Exe kinda gurantee's it

[crude ermine]

Colour lind

[gusty bison]

But i know like any precision weapon can build into gunner 1 raps

[terse idol]

But long-shot

[slow spade]

So true fellow Veteran 💪

[gusty bison]

And any dps guns have such high dps it doesnt really matter

Except recon

[light ore]

someone had a clip of VoC + confirmed target + iron will just standing in the middle psychanarium being targeted by like 40 gunners at once with gold toughness as they languidly picked them off one by one

like, their toughtness didn't even go down by more than 3

literally invincible

[terse idol]

sounds...

off..

I mean

VOC KINDA struggles with regular gunners... NOW HEAR ME OUT

Because you don't get cooldown resets on normals

😌

Like wowie

VOC with the cool down reset

On 40 gunners

Just kinda means

[light ore]

don't think that works

[terse idol]

You get 500 voc resets

[light ore]

it's specialist only

[terse idol]

Gunners are Specs no?

[light ore]

no

[terse idol]

[light ore]

eiltes

[terse idol]

Heavy gunners?

hmm

[light ore]

also, this guy just used voc once

[terse idol]

Sounding a little

Goooofy

[light ore]

correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe refreshing toughness refreshes overtoughness?

[terse idol]

Sounds like VOC needs to get nerfed

😌

[light ore]

yes

[gusty bison]

It stacks

[light ore]

yeah

[gusty bison]

Doesnt just refresh

[light ore]

but it keeps you at gold overtoughness, yeah?

[gusty bison]

Yep

[light ore]

which has special properties

[gusty bison]

Mhm

[light ore]

like preventing chip damage

[slow spade]

VoC needs a buff

[light ore]

and corruption? i think

[slow spade]

Clearly needs to instantly kill all shooters

[gusty bison]

VoC alsoninsta refreshing ur toughness is massive

[light ore]

so in auric you can comfortably clear half the map while in overtoughness state

cause of the elite density and vetran's nutty toughness regen talents

never take chip health damage

and leave the mission with double digit damage taken

VoC absolutely needs a nerf

[agile forge]

I got a question

what do I want on a devil claw IV?

pairing it with a columnus iag

[light ore]

devil's claw suffers against armor clumps (against lone guys just parry) so something to chunk armor

ciag works with onslaught

[agile forge]

I'm taking krak grenades

as my anti-carapace

[light ore]

oh sorry misread question

[agile forge]

or should I just keep my power sword VI with it instead?

I feel like it's gonna take care of elites pressuring me with the parry, since I'm not afraid of much else with an iag

maybe I'll just keep the power sword til I get more used to the autogun

[tall torrent]

Flak + unarmored/elite?
Rampage + shred/wrath/savage sweep

[light ore]

devil's claw better defense against ragers/overheads/bosses, but power sword can just kill them with power cycler

[agile forge]

well mine's got shred and rampage already lol

so that's a good start

[light ore]

difference between claw and power sword is safety vs offence

[tall torrent]

DC swords are some of the best defensive weapons in the game

[agile forge]

I've heard the IAG is good at killing trash too

[tall torrent]

And parry is a vibe

If u keep hitting perfect parries it’s really really good

[agile forge]

I wanna try to be fancy and finesse-y

will try a game with power sword first then go for devil claw

[pulsar radish]

The claw is amazing

I run it with a recon - whilst it struggles a tad against heavy armour thanks to onslaught and focus target it does okay.

Claw has defo saved me from poor choices with parry

[earnest lotus]

What I'm Hearing is

Use claw for a On Overwatch run

[torpid sundial]

Chainsword has served me pretty well against all kinds of hordes except against ragers

[earnest lotus]

Fuck ragers

[torpid sundial]

Devil claw can deal with one rager really fast

But more than one you can’t reliably parry

If only the parry was an aoe sweep

That staggers everything in front of you

[umbral scaffold]

I will roll all the knives that exist in this game trying to find out if crit damage and weakspot one-shot the bloody poxwalkers

[hollow ibex]

Pretty sure you can stagger multiple ragers with the parry tho 🤔

[torpid sundial]

Not multiple ragers

[spice wadi]

crab should have a video somewhere

[torpid sundial]

I’ve tested it quite a bit in the meat grinder but maybe I’m just bad

Like I can rarely do a no hit against 2 ragers, and never against 3

It doesn’t hit the rager if your reticle isn’t directly on their body/head

When you parry attack

[midnight mortar]

The parry has cleave as I recall. Just a swing angle that makes it hard to hit more than one rager at a time.

[torpid sundial]

So I was assuming either the aoe is very small or

Yeah I guess the angle is just weird

Would be amazing if it was horizontal

[hollow ibex]

Idk if it’s two or three but I’m pretty sure I’ve hit more than one before

Been a while since I’ve used dclaw

[torpid sundial]

My main point being its not a really reliable way to deal with multiple ragers or a giant horde of enemies still, but great against single targets

I do like the weapon though

[hollow ibex]

Eh I’ve had no issues using it against multiple ragers

[cedar pecan]

Did I luck out with this

unarmored for flak and no respite for deadly accurate, right?

[tall torrent]

No respite -> deadly accurate
Unarmored -> flak

[near shore]

anti-range bulid be like

[knotty knot]

I am finally happy with a weapon roll

[stiff merlin]

Ugh, why can you only have 5 builds!

[halcyon zephyr]

6 would be immesurably complex

[serene sage]

obligatory there is a mod for that

[stiff merlin]

Speak of, what is there stance on mods?

[halcyon zephyr]

don't be a dick

that's about it

[dusty sluice]

this is what i end up doing when i'm bored

help

[serene sage]

just do what you want
if you use scoreboard just don't use it to flame people in game
bragging about it here is fine

[stiff merlin]

so, what is a good talent loadout mod?

[serene sage]

a what

[near shore]

Talents are saved in regular loadout, don't need a mod for it

[terse idol]

what do I need to build for a mag dumping bolter for boss killing

Focus target, exe?

[near shore]

I can give you a build

[terse idol]

what'd the blessings even look like

yuuh hit me uup

[near shore]

Unyielding

Then you want I think it's called pinning fire,I can dm you if you want

[terse idol]

yeah, hit me uup homie ty

[serene sage]

just take all the weakspots stuff you can

and yeah that includes exec stance

that also means if you aren't hitting weakspots, you aren't one magging that boss

[terse idol]

[foggy rivet]

anyone know what should change on this weapon?

[halcyon zephyr]

the perks

[serene sage]

groaner damage to maniac

and that's about it

if you want you can change unarmored to unyielding

though unarmoured is probably fine tbh

you can one tap body shot gunners better with it

[foggy rivet]

also been while what he best melee weapon right now?

still power sword?

[halcyon zephyr]

you'll get a lot of answers. But yes, power sword still slaps. It's Power sword 6 with power cycler/brutal momentum that's the new hotness

[near shore]

I sent the DM and build

[halcyon zephyr]

don't be shy, post it here too. We'll be nice

Maybe

I dunno, I don't bolt

[foggy rivet]

use to bolt been finding plama gun better after nerfs lol

[halcyon zephyr]

same

My plasma gun, though I don't really have a build. It's more my VoC/middle column build

[foggy rivet]

were u get that skin lol

[terse idol]

damn the shotgun plasmagun

[halcyon zephyr]

weapon customization mod + extended weapon customization mod

I'm a huge fan of this staff, but I crash when I equip it.

[muted knot]

@bitter turtle I tried your vraks mk7 build with flak and unarmored but I still don't understand why you are supposed to run surgical over headhunter

[midnight totem]

That looks like its from xcom 2

[strange grove]

any1 have a good melee build they coudl share?

or check pins? 😄

[near shore]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b25df89-e58d-4bb0-ade6-7e1d916b6411/cqc-specialist?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

Love using this

[wary galleon]

entire team down during assissnation, manged to get them up and then some more.
stealth vet is NOT to be underrated

[near shore]

Definitely headhunter

It makes it so you don't have to wait,when there's 10 gunners and 20 shooters

Although inefficient, you can deal with armor due to constant crits

[strange grove]

ty I'll give that a try

[near shore]

It's my shotgun build

And it works in auric malstrom

Now I will warn you,if you aren't used to shotguns it might be a struggle

[near shore]

I think people's issue is that you don't really get anything for going invisible, now that in its self is great for saving. However,id like a 20% dmg buff or 20% toughness dmg reduction to be naturally in it,not just nodes

Although to be different from zealot, perhaps give it stamina Regen, efficiency and attack speed buff?

[foggy rivet]

good 3 or should replace one?

[near shore]

I'd remove sniper dmg res

[serene sage]

good main line stats, but perks can be better

I would suggest taking gunner res

those are almost a must at higher diff

[near shore]

Actually I saw a video earlier, showing it's pretty meh

[umbral scaffold]

Add the 10% ordo dockets on all

[serene sage]

which one?

[near shore]

Gunner resistance,I'll find the video

[serene sage]

all the try hards are running ordos lmao

[wary galleon]

maybe but people misunderstand or dont even look at, the fact its like a 90% guranteed revive tool if you dont time it too bad.
id rather be able to get up and the mission wont be a defeat, then have an extra damage personally. im not saying you have to, your playstyle and all that.

[umbral scaffold]

I need more hydron time

[serene sage]

if it's the video of that one dude taking 3x gunner res and stand still for 12 seconds tanking damage

then you don't need to

[wary galleon]

but why lmao

[serene sage]

people here already thought that video is well regarded

[umbral scaffold]

I have a spending addiction

[serene sage]

because ultra late game hunting for perfect gear, plasteel stops being a bottle neck

it's actually ordos

[umbral scaffold]

Plus it helps you test shit and see what you like

[serene sage]

some weapons needs like perfect stats and perfect distribution

[wary galleon]

i can lend some... on an interest ;)

[serene sage]

in which case 20M ordos may get you like 2-3 workable guns

[near shore]

https://youtu.be/VhK14ydlAes?si=RjX25dUzxidkjIA5

2 min 20 seconds

[halcyon zephyr]

With the new mission types I make way more ordo than plasteel

[wary galleon]

20m?? nah you dont need that much

[serene sage]

lmao I knew it

people here don't think Tanner contents are good

but if you like them you do you

[tiny summit]

Because curio perks are inconsequential. They aren't gonna make or break anything, so more ordos is more ordos

[near shore]

But he makes valid points

[wary galleon]

when i go to hadrons casino. i usually dont buy more then like 30-40 max

[halcyon zephyr]

500k, maybe 750k or at most 1mil in ordos, no?

[wary galleon]

thats like 50-65k

[serene sage]

[halcyon zephyr]

for a "godly" weapon

[wary galleon]

foxhope

[near shore]

[tiny summit]

Not actually naming your characters? Smh

[wary galleon]

fair. though having 3 curios with max healthl.. you can see a difference on vet for example

[halcyon zephyr]

wym, none of them are named harken or dickot

[near shore]

You only need 1 hp curio on vet

[tiny summit]

Emperor-Vore-Me

HorusWasRight

[near shore]

Usually I take 2 toughness 1hp

[tiny summit]

3 toughness for me lately

[halcyon zephyr]

3 +3 stam, take it or leave it

[near shore]

Lmao

[umbral scaffold]

I stack gunner res

Because they love sniping me

[near shore]

+2 from weapon +1 from tree

[tiny summit]

Though I do look at my wound curios every now and then

[serene sage]

there are a lot of things that he missed, 3x gunner res lets you have twice the toughness against gunners, and you get toughness back from killing things, extending the effectiveness even more

[near shore]

Ya I've had that happen

[wary galleon]

love that gif

[halcyon zephyr]

I stack block efficiency and sprint efficiency and run 3x stam trinkets, duck & dive.
Zealots fear me.

[wary galleon]

i usually go Health and toughness on my curious

and a wound maybe if i only got 2

[tiny summit]

I suffered for this

[serene sage]

if Tanner thinks standing still tanking damage vs one gunner is a valid point then he can do that

[untold mulch]

I am getting more and more sudden bursters

[near shore]

Idk,I've never had an issue with gunners

[wary galleon]

reminds me of this one

[serene sage]

okay then you do you

[halcyon zephyr]

I know right? Is this some kind of zealot joke I'm too veteran to understand?

[serene sage]

I just feel like there are a lot of misinformation in tanner videos

[near shore]

Even as a zealot

[serene sage]

and I loath it everytime someone links his vid taking it as bible

[tiny summit]

I can do it because I'm toughness maxing with helbore. Cover? Imma just stand in the open again a room of them and not feel a thing

[near shore]

Literally spray your gun at them to suppression

[umbral scaffold]

Reminds me of the time I launched someone off the map with a barrel

I recorded but it lost it

[wary galleon]

happened to me way too many times

must have been you

you fucker!

[umbral scaffold]

[umbral scaffold]

Sorry in advance, if it helps your death made me laugh

[near shore]

I'm not saying it's bible but he's got some things he goes over well, like suppression,hints why as zealot earlier I was pinned by gunners and started blast just to supress them

[wary galleon]

your immediate execution shall be by this abomination.

[near shore]

Wtf

Is that

[tiny summit]

A stubber

[wary galleon]

a powerful artifact of cringe

[merry gale]

2 buttstock

[near shore]

Me: has never played ogryn

[wary galleon]

mearly showing it to a poxwalker makes it cry and explode

[near shore]

550hrs played

[serene sage]

okay the way to deal with gunner is supression
I don't have words for this kind of stupidity

[near shore]

Huh? That's exactly what I did

[serene sage]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[umbral scaffold]

What in emperor's name am I staring at

[near shore]

And it worked

[umbral scaffold]

That's heresy

[serene sage]

you do you, I am an idiot then

[wary galleon]

nice. that scope is such a QoL

might as well give it the axe its trying so hard to emulate though

[wary galleon]

what you will be executed by if you disobey grendyl

[near shore]

If you're a zealot and there's little cover and gunners , literally blast shots at them and they'll get suppressed

[terse idol]

Iiii I'm not convinced about his stagger takes to be fair

[serene sage]

why are you using zealots as an example of how vets should deal with gunners?

[tiny summit]

I actually like irons on helbore. If the mk3 bayonet was good and looked like an axe head or pickaxe I wouldn't mind. But it's animation speed , aiming and dmg aren't working.

[near shore]

Or you could take a more ranged weapon, but I like the shredder pistol

[umbral scaffold]

Beware of barrels then

I could be lurking

[near shore]

I'm not,as a vet gunners shouldn't be a problem to begin with

[wary galleon]

impressive. i cant aim for shit with that iron xd might as well be playing half screen co-op like the old days

[wary galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/grinch-explosion-christmas-gif-10549921

[tiny summit]

WW2 multiplayer days paying off

[serene sage]

I think you are trying to argue a completely different thing

[near shore]

If gunners are a problem and you're a vet >.> Then what are you doing

[foggy rivet]

ww3 soon lol

[serene sage]

I am saying that Gunner Res is not dog shit

[near shore]

It's not dog shit

[wary galleon]

i love my B I G I R O N

[tiny summit]

M1 Garand and Kar98 gaming

[serene sage]

I never said you have a problem with gunners as vet, stop putting words in my mouth

[near shore]

I'm just saying that the person asking about curious could remove it and should be ok

[umbral scaffold]

Obviously dying by gunners

[serene sage]

the whole thing I am trying to say is Gunner Res iz valuable

[umbral scaffold]

[serene sage]

and you should take at least 2

[tiny summit]

Imaging that clip of someone firing something like this and it flipping into their face

[near shore]

.> Constantly slides, making it no longer a problem

[umbral scaffold]

That or ragers imo

Or just use mods for em

[wary galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/big-iron-big-gun-marty-robbins-gif-23220438

would break ther wrist so bad

[serene sage]

there is no rager res I don't think

[wary galleon]

i imagine

[tiny summit]

Is that cottontail?

[serene sage]

then who the fuck is shooting at the gunners then

[near shore]

Solution,chain weapon or devil claw

[umbral scaffold]

Then just add unyielding and shred

[near shore]

Me

[serene sage]

instead of constantly sliding you can just take gunner res, stand and duel them

[umbral scaffold]

Force sword sucks the soul out them

😩

[umbral scaffold]

Silvervale

[wary galleon]

SUCC

[idle swallow]

Not just blasting off the Gunner's head in a millisecond with a 360 no scope as vet, skill issue /s

[umbral scaffold]

Cotten is cool tho

[serene sage]

the fuck is this supposed to show?

that you killed 140 ranged elites?

[near shore]

As a vet, you are anti shooter and gunner

[serene sage]

give me one second

[near shore]

This was the all shooter modfier

[serene sage]

yeah and the faster you kill them, the faster you can help the team dealing with other shit

instead of sliding around

[earnest lotus]

If I got a tattoo based on the Darktide tattoos, would that be based or cringe?

[tiny summit]

Ah

[near shore]

If it's dead you don't need resistance, and you can dodge as well and keep shooting

[serene sage]

like

[umbral scaffold]

Both depending on what it is

[serene sage]

what are you even trying to say

this is also Maelstrom all ranged

I killed 172 ranged elites

[earnest lotus]

Gonna do the scorpions all over my face.

[serene sage]

and I stood and fire

[near shore]

You seem awfully heated

[umbral scaffold]

Based

[near shore]

I just don't think it's worth taking it

[serene sage]

well you put a scoreboard here first

[near shore]

No,that's fine

But in general you kinda seem upset about a discussion on gunner res

[serene sage]

alright we can move on

[junior needle]

Gunner res is definitely worth taking

[untold mulch]

We need an LMG

[serene sage]

you can have the last words or whatever

[untold mulch]

an actual lmg

[wary galleon]

GIB HEAVY STUBBA PLOX

[untold mulch]

I personalyl consider it obligatoryu

[wary galleon]

AND GIB BACKPACK FULL OF DAKKA

[serene sage]

#ogryn-class is this way friend

[untold mulch]

Ogryn has an HMG

[serene sage]

Plasma is an LMG

[junior needle]

Even if you’re running a particularly tanky setup, gunners are pretty ridiculous atm

[serene sage]

with its clipsize

you can't change my mind

[untold mulch]

"clipsize" must contain

[near shore]

I think I only have one resistance it's like a 15% bomber resistance XD

[junior needle]

And you will be caught up in melee while getting shot by gunners

[untold mulch]

Also pretty sure LMG doesn't consider ammo capacity

[wary galleon]

braced autogun with modded look only way to get LMG feeling until FS moves its fat ass 😭

[near shore]

Frag,or execute stance to quickly pop them. Shout for breathing room, invisible to reposition

[serene sage]

instead of reaload speed, Marksman Focus should auto reload your bullets into your mag

so you can keep shooting

[untold mulch]

[near shore]

My CQC is about whipping out my shotgun to quickly kill problems

[serene sage]

and has a mini lmg

and it synergizes with Exec Stance

without having to buff Exec

[umbral scaffold]

Should I learn zealot or ogryn

[junior needle]

Activates exe and gets whacked by surrounding hordes, pulls out grenade and gets whacked while throwing

[near shore]

Dodge?

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b25df89-e58d-4bb0-ade6-7e1d916b6411/cqc-specialist?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[wary galleon]

aw man i look back at the days, post update where vet had insta reload blitz

just braced autogun carnage

[junior needle]

Runs out of dodges because you’re surrounded

[serene sage]

im afraid you will need to keep looking 😔

[near shore]

Shoves

[untold mulch]

Ogryn stole from us

[junior needle]

Now you have no toughness because the gunners stripped all your toughness

[near shore]

You shouldn't be surrounded in the first place

[serene sage]

just git gud

[wary galleon]

fair. and i dont mind really. i love my gunlogger 😍

[junior needle]

It definitely happens in high difficulty

[serene sage]

never take damage, never die
game easy

[near shore]

I mean with a coordinated team,auric malstrom isn't horrible

[junior needle]

If you play regular damn then you’ll have an easier time

[untold mulch]

Tell to the fucking director spawning random shit

[serene sage]

5 tips Farshark don't you want you to know

[junior needle]

With a coordinated team of randos

[near shore]

I'm usually auric damnation malstrom

[junior needle]

Oh yeah me too

[near shore]

Now I will tell you

Earlier I saw a zealot with 7 wounds,no martyrdom,light attacking crushers with heavy evis,not revved up

[serene sage]

don't cry

it happens

I mean it won't

but like the fact that it wont happen, happens

[near shore]

He told me "I want wounds because I keep dieing"

[untold mulch]

💀

[near shore]

I'm like "no disrespect, but skill issue"

[serene sage]

now that's optimal planning

[untold mulch]

Homie really didn't saw "damn I die a lot more thna the rest"

maybe I should learn why

[serene sage]

I respect that attitude

[near shore]

His score was 50

[untold mulch]

no no no, jsut get more wounds

[near shore]

He fully died 3 times

[junior needle]

Unfortunately there’s no way to gatekeep people like that out of the hardest content

[untold mulch]

All the disrespect, fucking big skill issue

[serene sage]

dude is like I'm here to be carried but I am honest about it

[near shore]

Nah I was trying to give him tips and he told me to go fuck myself

[iron marten]

Whenever I see vets with 5 wounds in my lobby, I tend to stop slouching lmao

[untold mulch]

Time to get his kneecaps

[near shore]

Same

[serene sage]

well unsoliciated advice is hard to take in

like at the gym, if someone is doing something wrong, you don't say anything unless they ask you

[untold mulch]

If you have ego the size of a building

[serene sage]

nah, it's one of those things that you can't win

[near shore]

It wasn't me going "fuck you I know everything" it was me observing and going "hey you can stagger ragers if you rev your sword" then getting told to fuck off

[serene sage]

I get the frustration though

[untold mulch]

Yeah thats just a dumbass

I legit block people that answer that way

[near shore]

I wanted to get toxic, but didn't

[iron marten]

Think at the gym, I wouldn’t mind unsolicited advice, cause you can get hurt pretty easily, if doing something wrong

[untold mulch]

Don't want them on my matches

They are never going to learn

[near shore]

I was trying to help him out XD

[serene sage]

yeah, best is you should ask
gym etiquette is mostly mind your own business

unless people ask for a spot

or with something

[near shore]

My logic is "if you have enough hp to not go down,then wounds aren't a worry"

Hints why my zealot has 350hp

[terse idol]

yeahh, as someone... who uh, in their friend group gives aloot of unsolicited advice it's better to ask if they want advice or yeahh, move on

It just ain't worth the effort

If they don't want the advice

[near shore]

My beef is he is like that in damnation malstrom

[iron marten]

idm needing to play with under level 30s in auric. If they die and you need to clutch, you can basically show them what you need to do to win

[near shore]

I had to clutch

Like 4 times

[serene sage]

yeah, and sub 30 can loophole their way into Maelstrom as well

what can you do

FS won't change it, or at least not in a long time

because they have other priorities prob

[near shore]

I've literally beat damnation on a lvl 1 zealot before

[untold mulch]

I don't see how to block high level missions otherwise

Is something we just gotta deal, idiots.

[terse idol]

well

Not caarried

To be fair

I get what you mean

[near shore]

Oh definitely was,was with friends

But I never died

[torn moat]

So serious question. You're playing a marty zealot with a heavy evis/revolver. How do you best (solo) handle a crowd of 6 Crushers charging you?

[serene sage]

maybe instead of level, you need to beat like 7 of the previously level before you can join higher?

[inland orchid]

Power of friendship be like that

[near shore]

Walking around on 2hp? For sure, but never dead

[serene sage]

like beat 7 heresy to get to damnation

7 dam to maelstrom

idk, just brainstorming here

[untold mulch]

Still has the problem of getting carried

[torn moat]

I got stuck in this situation last night and felt like heavy attacking was too slow and would get me killed.

[near shore]

Time gate, 300 hrs

[muted gorge]

do i have a stun grenade?

[torn moat]

But light attacking doesn't do enough damage... annoying.

[torn moat]

Knives sadly.

[serene sage]

yes, but at least they have some time to learn, cause that would be 21 won games at higher diff at least

[untold mulch]

People like that will brute force any mission limit by offloading his lack of braincells into the allies having to carry

[near shore]

I'd slide backwards and blast shots and melee as needed

[serene sage]

it's an incentive at least

[muted gorge]

dump as many revolver shots into the nearest crusher skull hopefully with chastise, then just heavy attack/ special heavy if you can, gonna have to get conservative and hold those dodges for the big overheads

still probably going to die though in my experience

[gray belfry]

spam the everloving shit out of dodge and hope to christ my revolver aims on point before they get too close

[near shore]

Nah I've done it on vet, and zealot can easily 1 tap crushers

[torn moat]

Haha. Also, to add further level of difficulty. I was playing an Auric mission with the no ammo pickup modifier. So limited Revolver ammo left. I might've had enough for this though.

[muted gorge]

not on DAMN and not without chastise

[serene sage]

the emperor will guide the bullet

[muted gorge]

even with charged heavy bonk

[white minnow]

throw knives with the revolver if nothing else

[near shore]

.> There's a way

[terse idol]

it's just gotta be on dam

🥹

And uh

[white minnow]

aim for surgical stacks to get a crit throwing knife

[near shore]

Bloodthirsty

[terse idol]

I mean just shoot the crusher 3 times in the head with the revolver

Donzo

[muted gorge]

on heresy and lower you can def 1 shot crushers no problem

[serene sage]

surgical stacks for knife?

[white minnow]

sharpening the point of the knife, of course

[muted gorge]

if im going for the 90% accuracy with no ammo remaining what kinda build do yall reccomend?

[terse idol]

Revolver

[near shore]

Bloodthirsty let's you without chastise.
You know you active chastise once tick dmg starts right?

[terse idol]

focus target or weapon spec

[untold mulch]

Plasma or revolver without scavenger and no extra ammo, full melee

[serene sage]

Plasma, right click only

[iron marten]

Plasma bullets the size of bathtubs I swear

[serene sage]

Plasma right click has less ammo than revolver I think

[near shore]

My vet can 1 tap crushers on damnation,chain axe

[untold mulch]

Yep but is "harder" to land because it has a delay

[serene sage]

with extreme wallpierce so you can hit stuff behidn cover

[muted gorge]

i still want to be effective with the plasma what blessings and stats do you want on it

[untold mulch]

Plasma with right click 10 shots is 90 ammo

[torn moat]

Does Surgical effect throwing knives? How does that work?

[untold mulch]

soo you are gonna shoot 20-25 plasma shots

so if you miss 2+ you know already you fucked up

[near shore]

I don't think so

[white minnow]

the knives seem to inherit the crit chance of the blessings that you have but I'm not sure if this behavior is considtent

[muted gorge]

just dont miss :^)

[white minnow]

I know it works with surgical and scattershot

[serene sage]

well it's percentage so if you have more shots, well you can miss more but you will need to land more as well

[untold mulch]

Easier said than done when allies shoot at rtandom

[untold mulch]

Pretty much

[near shore]

Bloodthirsty would help with those crushers

[muted gorge]

the smiley is me being a smart ass

[white minnow]

and then hand cannon applies to the crit knife

[untold mulch]

fair kek

[bitter turtle]

Why would you run headhunter

[fresh mango]

two questions

1. which helbore is the best
2. which shotgun is the best

[untold mulch]

Plasma with for that run you really don't want to actually minmaxi t

[near shore]

Easy constant crits

[bitter turtle]

Over surgical on v7?

[near shore]

I have a CQC shotgun build if you want

[old quail]

hand cannon does too

[serene sage]

uh shotgun is weird
Agri is just a DMR in disguise
Kant and Law are basically our flamer equivalent
that's my take

[bitter turtle]

You shoot most things like twice tops outside of crusher

[near shore]

Yes, because when you see 15 gunners you don't wanna wait

[serene sage]

so apple and oranges?

[old quail]

https://streamable.com/qzijg3

[iron marten]

thought it’s v3 for headhunter, v7 for surgical

[serene sage]

I find agri a lot easier to use though

[bitter turtle]

Do you actually use v7 lol

[near shore]

Yes

[fresh mango]

Sure

[bitter turtle]

It onetaps gunners

[untold mulch]

lmao

[near shore]

I'm aware it does

[bitter turtle]

Without a critical

[serene sage]

wtf

[near shore]

I'm aware

[bitter turtle]

How does either factor in then

[fresh mango]

I’m just looking to try new things, been using bolter plas and autoguns for a bit

[bitter turtle]

Both are irrelevant for gunners

Surgical HH only matters for maniacs which generally take 2 shots to kill

[near shore]

Alrighty then, bosses, ogryn,armor,close range,so no dmg buff

[iron marten]

Try out Laspistol, its critweakspot damage is good, and its mobility is also fun!

[near shore]

Consistent 1 taps on ragers and flamers

[bitter turtle]

If u 1 tap then why are u using HH... lol

[near shore]

But yes, please let me wait to shoot a beast of nurgle in the back because I want surgical

Because if you are killing a reaper it's at least 2 shots

You wanna wait for surgical? Go ahead I'll 2 tap it with high crit chance

[bitter turtle]

So it's marginally better on reapers and worse on all maniacs

Gotcha

[near shore]

Sigh, you aren't gonna discuss properly so

[serene sage]

honestly the way you talk I kinda have to assume you are an exCSGO pro or something

like you aim so fast you kill eveything in sight you get no surgical value

[bitter turtle]

Ur suggesting HH over surgical on a gun that largely plays like revolver lol

[serene sage]

you always hit heads for that max hh value

[near shore]

I've been gaming a long time, and don't want to wait for surgical

[bitter turtle]

I don't wait for surgical

[serene sage]

if you are that good then we honestly we mortals don't need to discuss

we are playing different games

[bitter turtle]

But u still take half a second to aim

Combine with dradshot for a likely critical to onetap maniacs

[near shore]

It's nice to have HH to blast at bosses and ogryn, you can also 2 tap maulers

[bitter turtle]

U literally do better dps on bodyshots for maulers you know lol

Even with crits

[near shore]

I don't think Deadshot is needed on the weapon

[bitter turtle]

Carapace is rly bad on v7

[near shore]

I'm aware

[bitter turtle]

...if you know then why you bring up maulers for HH

You have to hit the head

[near shore]

Because it's an option

[bitter turtle]

For HH to proc

[near shore]

It's about giving yourself options if needed, now you should melee maulers if you have anti armor or Dclaw

[serene sage]

dclaw for maulers?

[near shore]

But I'm not gonna wait for surgical to proc, when there's 5 reapers

[near shore]

Ya,parry them

[bitter turtle]

No, I'm saying HH literally doesn't help vs mauler

U body shot them with v7

[serene sage]

what happened to just dodge slide all the ranged attacks?

[bitter turtle]

Even surgical rapid firing is better than HH

[near shore]

Options fox, options

[bitter turtle]

Cause it at least will give like 10 percent crit

[fresh mango]

so, any good shotgun builds?

[near shore]

Hey you know what, you do you

[bitter turtle]

Hh gives nothing when ur not shooting head

[terse idol]

Repeaters aren't scary smmmhh

[near shore]

Yes,here

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b25df89-e58d-4bb0-ade6-7e1d916b6411/cqc-specialist?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[terse idol]

Reapers I mean

[near shore]

They aren't

But constant 2 tap juice is nice

[terse idol]

FS should buff them 😌

[near shore]

Can't,too many people would whine about difficulty

[bitter turtle]

Js u get the same amount of crit on reapers as surg if ur 2 tapping

2 tap means u only get 1 stack of HH lol

[near shore]

Are you done trying to be right?

[bitter turtle]

Unless u aim faster than 0.2 seconds that's gonna be the same as surg

[near shore]

Take your time

[dusty sluice]

this isn't bricked right?

[crude ermine]

I can test both out

I ironically have a vraks with hh and one with surgi, it'll be fun for myself

[bitter turtle]

Ur literally the one who came into a conversation that has nothing to do with u

Lol

[serene sage]

I mean you can't come in here with bad takes and expect people not to respond?

[near shore]

You mean an opinion discussion?

[bitter turtle]

It wasn't a discussion the other guy literally @ me lol

[near shore]

Because with HH I ain't gotta wait

[bitter turtle]

You're welcome to talk but then I'm gonna respond ofc

[dusty sluice]

suggestions?

[near shore]

Not sure I'd take specialist dmg

[terse idol]

Replace melee damage with unarmoured

Done

[dusty sluice]

ik

[bitter turtle]

You need unarmored

[near shore]

Stamina is a safe bet

[bitter turtle]

So I 2nd that

[dusty sluice]

bm to t4 or thrust to headtaker?

[iron marten]

I'd replace Thrust with Headtaker, if you're going to be horde clearing with that thing (which you probaly will)

[dusty sluice]

ehhhhhhh

[terse idol]

No

[glacial yacht]

specialists to unarmored or flak. could change thrust too but its not bricked at all no

[terse idol]

Stick BM

Stick Thrust

[near shore]

If you want to bonk armor keep thrust

[terse idol]

Thrust works

[serene sage]

uhh it's rough ngl, you prob want unarmored and headtakers for various breakpoints which is important on rashad due to Brutal Momentum

[bitter turtle]

Bm to t4 if you can't onetap all light enemies

[terse idol]

For a crusher BP

[bitter turtle]

That or thrust to headtaker yes

[terse idol]

BM with unarmoured will be able to do that muuch

[dusty sluice]

i'm used to headtaker with rashad lol

[terse idol]

No

[near shore]

Let me know the results

[terse idol]

Thrust is still good

[crude ermine]

Alright

[terse idol]

You can get a lower BP with thrust

[bitter turtle]

There's dreg brusiers too I hope you remember lol

[terse idol]

But headtaker isn't bad either

[bitter turtle]

Flak heads

[near shore]

Than bane of my Dclaw

[terse idol]

Scab bruisers are what we're looking forr

[bitter turtle]

You want to do both

It's just that it's hard to hit scab bruiser os without unarmored

But my rashad is similar and just barely misses dreg bruiser lol

But it also only has bm3

[terse idol]

Oh I thought it was easier to hit dredge bruisers

[iron marten]

ouch

[terse idol]

For that bp

[bitter turtle]

It is easier

[terse idol]

Dats craay

[bitter turtle]

But still can be missed

I have no flak on mine

And it's like 15 dmg short

Lol

[near shore]

Rip

[bitter turtle]

Ssme as that guy rashad

No flak

Bm3

[dusty sluice]

i have bm and ht t4 if i want to switch either

[terse idol]

Then can't Fmis do,
Unarmoured + Flak and keep BM Thrust?

[iron marten]

I took the tax 10% melee damage node talent so I can shot bruisers with my rashad

[bitter turtle]

You could do that too ye

[wet elk]

🤔

what is melk cooking

[near shore]

Y'all taking axes for armor?

[bitter turtle]

I also take that node just so u know lol

It's just an unfortunately bricked axe in my case

[terse idol]

I'm taking rashad for anti everything

[near shore]

I'd consider grabbing it if you want a build for it

[iron marten]

I could easily fix this by changing it to Unarmoured but whatever

I can already hit the oneshot

[terse idol]

Swap maniac for unarmoured

Yeah

[trim steppe]

I'd go thrust to headtaker (or decimator, HT is better tho), and change specialists to flak

[bitter turtle]

Was about to say that looks perfectly good lol

If u swap

[terse idol]

No

You won't be able to make the scab brusier bp

[near shore]

Thrust let's my chain axe one shot crushers

It's goated

[terse idol]

Just change, for Flak and unarmoured

[dusty sluice]

the hivemind makes me need to not say it lmao

i have this if hadron doesn't brick it too

[terse idol]

Thrust is good enough for crushers

Although it's slow

I guess it's what you value

[bitter turtle]

Just check if u can one-shot dreg cruisers first

Before u switch to flak

[terse idol]

Test the BP for Scab brusiers, Dredge brusiers and your Crusher BP