#veteran-class

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untold mulch
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or barely any toughness regen

civic knot
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ill check

spring spindle
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As someone who’s never actually touched smokes and doesn’t wanna jump on a bandwagon of hating it without trying.

Does it have any use, even if niche in a build

empty lily
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as someone who's never actually touched smokes and is on the bandwagon, they're shit

untold mulch
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Annoy your teammates

wise fossil
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I'm out of points 😭

wanton dawn
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Smoke are... something

untold mulch
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Smokes are truly a blitz taht was made

empty lily
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one of the grenade choices of all time

wise fossil
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I guess I could drop Conditioning

trim steppe
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I havent ever run smokes, but i've played with vets that have and the whole match was annoying cuz I couldnt see shit. And they didnt seem to help with anything

wanton dawn
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We cant really say anything about smoke really

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They exist

wise fossil
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I legitimately hate smoke grenades

tiny summit
empty lily
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dear god...

torpid sundial
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If smokes suppressed any enemies inside and stops all ranged attacks from going through including snipers

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maybe

untold mulch
finite imp
trim steppe
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Smokes could be cool if they did something else. Maybe grant invis inside and for 1-2 seconds upon leaving? Idk

wanton dawn
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My reaction to launching smoke the first time: Sitgryn

tiny summit
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Join in on the maelstrom with enhanced blitz. Throwing smokes any chance

finite imp
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make them smelling saltsd

spring spindle
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I’ve heard people say if it marked enemies inside it would be cool. But… I dunno. I haven’t even actually SEEM someone run it

torpid sundial
civic knot
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Can demolition team replace grenade regen?

spring spindle
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That or like. Maybe an enemy in smoke always counts as being backstabbed or something.

civic knot
torpid sundial
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giving stealth to the entire team would be pretty cool actually

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while inside smoke

tiny summit
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Rip a fat cloud: Team, focus target that heretic

empty lily
trim steppe
finite imp
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so many nades

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cant see shit

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whole level is just smoked

spring spindle
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Is it even effective at what it does though. Like, taking fire off you?

torpid sundial
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accurate representation

tiny summit
spring spindle
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Or no

trim steppe
granite shale
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I hated the charge time lol bolter just feels good to shoot

celest vine
spring spindle
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Or is it just on of the blitz of all time

torpid sundial
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doesnt stop snipers though

celest vine
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Its helpful on exectutioners stance buikds

civic knot
spring spindle
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Hey. If it’s stops other people from doing stuff. I’ll take the niche use of “being a greedy bastard and killing everything”

tiny summit
wanton dawn
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Well. Lets put it that way: check the gamegrump video where arin give jontron the controller for sonic snowboard. That's how smoke feels

trim steppe
civic knot
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Plus my team is gonna be pissed cause I'm running move speed aura xD

finite imp
junior needle
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Oh whoops

trim steppe
# civic knot Is it that great for agri shotgun tho?

I legit barely use agri shotgun, but if you're running weapon spec and switching then I'd go melee damage and agile engagement. And I'd prefer movement aura over damage aura, 5% is nothing. If you arent running ammo then increase movement

finite imp
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these are some cursed ass builds

wanton dawn
junior needle
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That's the right quote

spring spindle
tiny summit
# granite shale I hated the charge time lol bolter just feels good to shoot

Solution: Don't charge. You don't need it. The only thing it's for is if you want to 1 tap a crusher. Otherwise it's a troll mechanic to suck your ammo up at this point in weapon balance. You're using plasma. Tap firing will eliminate most things and everything behind it. If you dislike slow plasma because of charging I can't see you liking the slow swap speed, small mag of bolter and recoil. While plasma is plasma and stupidly overtuned

wanton dawn
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The unexpected expected

trim steppe
tiny summit
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Imma join an auric maelstrom with vape nation build and post it

wanton dawn
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Smoke are like, a though black hole

torpid sundial
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I want to use stripped down with an autogun with duck and dive

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I want to run through 50 gunners

wanton dawn
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You try to think about it and it just absorb your thinking time without giving anything back

tiny summit
torpid sundial
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but what if you want to be in melee range

trim steppe
torpid sundial
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Is hit and run needed though

trim steppe
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No its not, it just helps you not get deleted when you're solo behind enemy lines after sprinting across the gap

torpid sundial
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makes sense

tiny summit
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What should I run?

finite imp
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away from me

tiny summit
finite imp
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Let's fuck

civic knot
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And suppression immunity probably

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90% of the time you want to run suppression immunity

finite imp
civic knot
finite imp
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you can mount cover

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peek

civic knot
iron marten
civic knot
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This is possible?!

finite imp
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right click

tiny summit
finite imp
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boom you pop up over the edge

torpid sundial
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I only realized you can peek over cover as veteran after 200 hours into the game

finite imp
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only the top of your head peeks out

trim steppe
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Wait what

civic knot
finite imp
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YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES ARE YOU SERIOUS

trim steppe
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Youre fuckin with me

tiny summit
finite imp
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YOU CAN MOUNT COVER

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YOU FUCKING CAN HOLY SHIT

torpid sundial
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yes

near shore
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Alrighty I've got an idea to help smoke grenades.
Smokes: +20% stamina Regen upon entering ( last 3 seconds upon exiting) +25% stamina restore when entering smoke (5-8 second cool down,so you can't spam it by dodging in and out of smoke)
Smokes cause those caught within to cough (1-2 seconds)
Allies within see shooters

tiny summit
untold mulch
finite imp
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AUGH

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MY GOD

trim steppe
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I have played 800 hours and I didnt know you can mount cover. I assume lies until I do it

finite imp
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SOMEONE CALL THE COMISSAR

flint garden
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staregryn yall just realized

iron marten
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haha

finite imp
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JESUS FUCK

tiny summit
serene sage
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Light? In my grimdark future? Heretical.

finite imp
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

untold mulch
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I do it sometimes because funny

iron marten
untold mulch
green sage
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Still want a powerfist.

finite imp
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its literally a class signature move

civic knot
# tiny summit

Run kraks/shredder depending on your needs, run blue weakspot damage talent in the left tree, run the middle talent in focus target and remove the left one that gives toughness (it's unnecessary)

civic knot
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Oh I see...

finite imp
iron marten
tiny summit
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I am the vent purge mod

terse idol
terse idol
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Like look at it this way

trim steppe
iron marten
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HAHA

untold mulch
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I wish it gave anh accuracy bonus

terse idol
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Shredders are good vs hordes
Krak is good vs crushers
Smoke is good vs shooters

If shooters can't shoot you you never die

trim steppe
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Just goes to show, theres always something to learn. Like Fatshark is terrible at explaining its mechanics

finite imp
terse idol
untold mulch
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Also

untold mulch
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Only Vet can

terse idol
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I mean yeah

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I'm bias

finite imp
tall torrent
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Like, holding jump over a waist-height object allows u to mantle over it?

terse idol
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Because alot of the knowledge I know was downloaded from vt2

tall torrent
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Or smth else

finite imp
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get behind a piece of cover, ADS

untold mulch
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Vet is the only one who knows how to poke his head

finite imp
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you peek over it

flint garden
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vet can peak over cover when adsing

terse idol
tall torrent
finite imp
tall torrent
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Only veteran can??

trim steppe
finite imp
tall torrent
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I legit never knew that

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WHAT

finite imp
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its a class feature

untold mulch
iron marten
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@wanton dawn sorry for the ping, but did you know about this vet mechanic as well?

finite imp
untold mulch
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ITS LEGIT A CLASS FEATURE FOR SOME REASON

trim steppe
tall torrent
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I have 857hrs

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Never once knew that

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WHAT

finite imp
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i thought i knew this discord. I thought i knew you people. I thought we were FAMILY

untold mulch
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JESUS LADS, I DID IT ACCIDENTALLY IN THE FIRST 2 HOURS WTF

flint garden
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pretty sure it only tells you in character creation like ogyrn trait

junior needle
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I've known about it, never used it even a single time

untold mulch
tranquil bronze
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Dammit Brunt

tall torrent
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What does mounting on cover look like

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I wanna see I’m legit curious

untold mulch
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HOW DO YOU SHOOT FOR 800 HOURS WITHOUT NEVER PEEKING COVER

civic knot
finite imp
finite imp
wanton dawn
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The cover peek ? I learned it recently but it is not something that I would have realized no

untold mulch
tall torrent
untold mulch
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Cover is for the weak

wanton dawn
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I mean, I almost only play vet

tranquil bronze
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Cover hasn't been really useful in this game when you got a horde running towards you from BEHIND

finite imp
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lets all just pretend we always knew this ok

wanton dawn
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Even if I did realize I would not have though it to be class specific

trim steppe
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I didn't believe I could think lower of Fatshark in terms of obfuscating it's own gameplay but here I am, learning about a core feature 800 hours into the game

tall torrent
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What does mounting over cover even do

wanton dawn
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And to be fair, I rarely ever use croutch cover

tall torrent
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Does it reduce your recoil?

serene sage
tall torrent
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Does it make you suppression immune?

untold mulch
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Probably not

iron marten
tiny summit
tall torrent
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What’s the fucking point then

terse idol
serene sage
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not really, cause I have mounted cover on Bolter before and felt no diference

terse idol
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5'5 vet is the meta then

serene sage
sonic marlin
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any good? I don't remember the godly stat requirement

terse idol
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Because if you're taller you cannot take cover

untold mulch
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SHORT KING

serene sage
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that's about it

tall torrent
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I’m curious

wanton dawn
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Also have huge size vet whatthefuck_heresy

serene sage
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im at work

tall torrent
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Oof

terse idol
serene sage
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but it's the gun up animation when you are not ADSing

terse idol
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I just crouch

tall torrent
untold mulch
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Wait is this because anyone who didn't notice made giants as guardsmen?

serene sage
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and then when you ADS it goes down

untold mulch
tall torrent
finite imp
terse idol
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Like there was discussion when the meta was choosing the shortest height because it let you take cover behind more things

serene sage
trim steppe
serene sage
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but not by much

wanton dawn
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I went for biggest size cuz my vet is an amazon

terse idol
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If you pick the tallest vet

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You'll poke out

tiny summit
terse idol
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And get shot

untold mulch
finite imp
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you're immune to gunshots while sliding

serene sage
finite imp
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SLIP AND SLIDE BB

serene sage
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unless some skins can cover that

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which most don't

tall torrent
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Does anyone have recording of “mounting gun over cover” with veteran

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And what’s the exact input to do it

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Just ADS near a piece of cover and crouch?

serene sage
untold mulch
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Yes

tiny summit
serene sage
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aim, that's it

iron marten
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Lowkey sad we didn’t get sliders for character creation for the face and whatnot. I was just gonna max everything, and make my character red, like what I did in ds3

terse idol
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😌

trim steppe
# sonic marlin why not

low pen and first target stats, no T4 blessings and 20% flak. I dont buy from Melk unless I can get a T4 blessing out of it OR the itemization is perfect

tall torrent
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So just ADS near cover

untold mulch
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Behind cover and crouched

terse idol
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that's insane

sonic marlin
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sadge

terse idol
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I just never hugged cover

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I always crouched before

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like not many FPS let you do that now a days

wanton dawn
terse idol
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or I'm like

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Old

sonic marlin
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yummers

trim steppe
# sonic marlin sadge

Basically you can probably do better at Hadron unless you just really want a decent axe without hunting. But melk bucks are time gated so I like to use em for Blessing hunting.

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Especially since you only have 4000 melk bucks, what happens when you buy that ok axe adn then tomorrow you see a T4 power cycler on the shop

sonic marlin
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t4 what

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damn im fucking broke

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help

serene sage
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no

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pull yourself up by the bootstrap

wanton dawn
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You stay rich by not giving out freebies

serene sage
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maybe skip that latte

junior needle
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Shouldn't have crafted so much avocado toast at hadrons

trim steppe
# sonic marlin t4 what

power cycler is the blessing that makes the power sword godly, and its super rare, usually you end up buying it from melk

terse idol
terse idol
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Its as rare as any t4

serene sage
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remember chat, Hadron says "Good Varlet" to literally everyone, you're not special

terse idol
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But its like the only t4

sonic marlin
terse idol
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That rreeallly matters

serene sage
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stop simping for her

untold mulch
sonic marlin
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haha 'varlet'

untold mulch
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"Are you pleased Varlet?"

Stamina +2

iron marten
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The good old days when people didn’t believe power cycler exists

trim steppe
serene sage
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to be fair, there was a time it did not, in fact, exist KEKW_ogryn

sonic marlin
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what does power cycler do

wanton dawn
sonic marlin
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damm

trim steppe
sonic marlin
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can't wait for parkinsons since i gotta charge my sword every 2 hits

iron marten
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And when it did exist

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Lordy was it broken

sonic marlin
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hows maelstrom different from normal mission

untold mulch
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more modifiers

iron marten
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Imagine 7 heavy swings empowered. As the god emperor intended

serene sage
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more modifiers, fewer restrictions on director

trim steppe
serene sage
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console peasant

trim steppe
iron marten
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My brother actually has a 550 rating ps3, and all I can say is, damn, just get a ps6 lol

wanton dawn
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Man, am sad no one noticed the phrasing

iron marten
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What’s the pc icon doing in front of pot of greed

wanton dawn
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It draws two additional charges from your dakka

untold mulch
serene sage
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KEKW_ogryn let it go Craime, no one picked up on it

iron marten
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Still love it how I got Power Cycler from an emperor’s drop

untold mulch
iron marten
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0 plasteel spent on looking for it

serene sage
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I have like 4 different PC4s

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it's not that rare

wanton dawn
untold mulch
serene sage
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you guys just need to stop making the rookie mistake of crafting PS that doesn't come with it

trim steppe
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It took like 400 hours to find my first PC4, now I have at least 3

serene sage
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elementary, really

iron marten
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This was back when the game first released in december, so power cycler was only a t4 blessing

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Oh yeah, december 2022

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It’s 2024 now

serene sage
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it has been 3 years

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since this game was released

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and they still can't fix it

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truly

iron marten
untold mulch
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Truly they just don't care smh

untold mulch
iron marten
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MGS4 IS STILL A PS3 EXCLUSIVE GAME AAAAAAAAA

serene sage
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if Darktide is so good, why isn't there Darktide 2?

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check mate atheist

untold mulch
idle swallow
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Can't wait for Konami to fuck up the SH2 remake

trim steppe
iron marten
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I have the legacy collection, just not a ps3

serene sage
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🤓

iron marten
trim steppe
iron marten
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Mourning for your plasteel

untold mulch
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Flex of my platinum

iron marten
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Niiiice

serene sage
trim steppe
untold mulch
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that war has changed?

serene sage
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the fact that game covers now are plastered with awards

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lile GOTY edition, best of XXXX

untold mulch
serene sage
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triple aware

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like 20%-30% of the cover are awards

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or some kind of rating (which ig they have to include for compliance)

idle swallow
serene sage
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I just want a nice clean cover damn it

serene sage
iron marten
# trim steppe Que eso?

It basically adds button on character select, so you can skip loading times to go straight in a run, or look at the shop on your ogryn, without seeing a loading for the mourningstar

untold mulch
iron marten
untold mulch
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I had the case of MGS3 og

iron marten
untold mulch
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but lets say

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My parents through the years

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careful about stuff I had as a kid

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were not

iron marten
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I moved countries in 2010, so my ps2, mgs2 and mgs3 were left behind

untold mulch
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😔

iron marten
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I know that feeling

serene sage
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like look at how good those are

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just make those

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but with paper

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instead of steelbooks

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like

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or these

iron marten
untold mulch
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Gib that plasteel

serene sage
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what kind of sorcery is this

untold mulch
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GIB

serene sage
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is that a real mod?

untold mulch
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yes

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I have it

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Should use it more

iron marten
serene sage
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is this real life?

iron marten
iron marten
untold mulch
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I have 20k reserved for Hellgun

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Sooo, 10 rolls from gray to gold

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Need to adquire more

iron marten
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good luck in the rice fields

untold mulch
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At least since I moved to Damnation

tropic imp
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All people with plasteel reserves have power cycler IV?

untold mulch
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I actualyl get plasteel now

umbral scaffold
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server dying?

untold mulch
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I only have PC3

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but because I really don't want to farm power sword

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I feel is boring to use

trim steppe
iron marten
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np, friend

trim steppe
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You just saved my sanity and so many hours of my life lol

iron marten
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lol

tranquil bronze
trim steppe
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I'm legit so happy about Psych Ward, I'm gonna shout its praises from the rooftops. The number of hours I wasted loading the MS just to look at brunt, is TOO DAMN HIGH

iron marten
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lmao

trim steppe
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Especially since 40% of the time you get stuck infinite loading and need to alt-f4 and start over

sonic marlin
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smh why not 5

trim steppe
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maybe the orange will be 20% gunner

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it only costs 5000 plasteel to find out

terse idol
sonic marlin
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first 17% i got and it has the worst perks out of all my curios

finite imp
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ALL MY FELLAS

sonic marlin
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i need that 1% to switch here

finite imp
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youll be gucci

finite imp
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thats a damn gopod curio

untold mulch
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bricked

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😔

finite imp
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thinking i might drop something for iron will

tall torrent
finite imp
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knife and revolver

idle swallow
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what rings u got bich

tall torrent
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I use this for revolver weapon specialist build

finite imp
idle swallow
orchid cargo
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what perk would u guys swap the groaner dmg for

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?

untold mulch
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dear lord

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wait wdym groaner dmg?

tall torrent
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Btw @finite imp can u record what veteran’s cover mounting looks like

finite imp
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sure thing buddy 🙂

untold mulch
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I am 90% sure it can be done in the damn tutorial

finite imp
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it can lol

inland orchid
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Is like when ur gun’s barrel is pointed up thumbsup_ogryn

terse idol
untold mulch
orchid cargo
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oh wait i posted the wrong pic

finite imp
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you literally walk behind waist high cover

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crouch

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M2

untold mulch
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I am amazed people

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didn't realize

finite imp
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same dude i just

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jeez

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its actually pretty fuckin useful

orchid cargo
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well im rolling the melee weak spot to something

terse idol
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That's insane

orchid cargo
untold mulch
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Maybe I am too used to cover shooters so the concept came as "of course it should have a mechanic about this"

terse idol
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But wait that still means manlet vets are extra meta

finite imp
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you can tell who hasn't played COD

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lmao

terse idol
terse idol
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I played cod when there wasn't this

finite imp
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and yet

terse idol
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You had to like prone

finite imp
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ill capture with my gpu i guess

untold mulch
finite imp
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such a good series

untold mulch
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Shame Guerilla wants their dinosaur game instead of continuing it 😭

finite imp
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remember hitting reload and YOUR DUDE ACTUALLY LOOKED DOWN TO PAY ATTENTIO TO WHAT THEYrE DOING

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DETAIL

untold mulch
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I remember the shitty accuracy of 2

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Also the Sta-52 gave me a liking for helical mags

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shame it ain't practical irl

untold mulch
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signature look of superiority

finite imp
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uploading footage of it in action

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voila

untold mulch
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Advanced movement

finite imp
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they were underleveled anyhow

atomic sapphire
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Ya could've just left. Lol.

finite imp
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this was a learning moment

untold mulch
finite imp
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LOL

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the discord fucked em

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i had to demonstrate but i didnt wanna carry

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gg

untold mulch
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💀

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I stare in judgement

finite imp
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look dog i aint dedicating A 25 min match just to show cover mounting

untold mulch
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smh

finite imp
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im studying Security+ rn

untold mulch
wanton dawn
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Man I wished I did not have to care about security

finite imp
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just give up

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surrender to the hackers

wanton dawn
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Except I do

untold mulch
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Use the same password fot everything

finite imp
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ez

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leave your front door unlocked

untold mulch
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if they learn one, they deserve it

wanton dawn
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I just wished services stop asking for virgin blood everytime I need to enter a password

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then mobile identification

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then mail

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for a freaking railway servicess

untold mulch
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Then a recommendation from Jesus Christ

finite imp
spice wadi
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cocaine

finite imp
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I DONT DO COCAINE I DO ADDERALL

finite imp
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YOU THINK IM COOL ENOUGH TO GET BLOW HELL NAH WE WEARING GLASSES

terse idol
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😌

finite imp
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ORANGE BOTTLE BOTTLE POPPIN PILLY WILLYS

wanton dawn
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I don't think you think at all

tall torrent
finite imp
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❤️

wanton dawn
terse idol
tall torrent
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I thought it would be like

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Cod’s weapon mounting

finite imp
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nah

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you just

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crouch less

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based on what you're behind

finite imp
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LESS BRAIN LESS DEATH

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NO THINK

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JUST RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

spice wadi
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taste the paint

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consume the glue

finite imp
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ive done 5 of my security+ lessons i should stop and space this stuff out or i wont absorb it

near shore
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Y'all I just watched a video where this dude was like "ya,spam your laz gun into hordes" I commented on it giving my thought and he said "it's more efficient then your melee"

spice wadi
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i dont think ur brain absorbs things that aren't amphetamines

terse idol
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😭

finite imp
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did he call you GAY

terse idol
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NOW TO BE FAIR

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It you're running Marksmens focus shooting abit onto the horde is fine

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Holy hell, is this what it feels to be on the cutting edge of build creation

near shore
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But he was on about saving ammo and taking all ammo perks, and I'm like "just don't waste your shots?!"

finite imp
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yes

terse idol
finite imp
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your takes are so hot and fresh people think you're insane

wanton dawn
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Why do you look at dt youtube guide though ?

untold mulch
terse idol
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The infantry lasgun is even ammo efficient enough that you could take shock trooper and not survivalist and be okay

near shore
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He took both

finite imp
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you take one look at my builds and you think this guy is CHUGGING COCAINE +9 stamina, maxed out melee knife with a revolver

near shore
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And suppression immunity despite having execution stance

finite imp
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I literally cannot kill fast enough it's torture

spice wadi
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behold this fucking thing

finite imp
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I want to SPRINT

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FASTER

finite imp
spice wadi
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LOOK at the thing

finite imp
spice wadi
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if a boltgun made coffee

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it would look like this

near shore
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How TF are you gonna take survivalist + shock trooper then spam a headshot based weapon into horde then complain about ammo

crude fiber
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Mfw +9 Stam with 85% sprint efficiency so I inject all the blue juice in the mission into myself

untold mulch
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My brother in emperor

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You are the blue juice

finite imp
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my brother in throneside

crude fiber
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Does stripped down make you immune the flamers as well? Not the fire on the ground obviously but the stream of fire?

terse idol
near shore
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+1 stamina from tree, +9 from curios. +2 from weapon. + Sprint efficiency from tree and curio + stamina recovery +5% movement speed aura +25% movement speed from infiltrate

near shore
crude fiber
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I think psyker has the highest potential movement speed in the game

random tulip
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Made it to lvl 100 with Veteran

terse idol
near shore
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No need to witch hunt,it just confuses me

untold mulch
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No need?

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lowers pitchfork 😔

near shore
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First video of 2024 is one of my most used builds! Purely focused on shooting everything with the Emperors Flashlight, this build will turn you into the ranged beast you always wanted to be.

Let me know which Lasgun you like best on Veteran down below!

The Infantry Lasgun breakdown video can be found in the playlist below, alongside my other ...

▶ Play video
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With this gun I would argue that you don't need any ammo perks

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If it's built right,all things die in 3 or less shots

junior needle
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I assume that's the 1a

near shore
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Hell,my mark 7 headhunter can 2 shot reapers

junior needle
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You'll at least want survivalist

near shore
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Well it's nice to have at least one, but you can get away with none

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It's not like my shotgun that needs it

wanton dawn
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Camouflage now ?

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I mean, I won't judge i don't play mf

random tulip
near shore
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I like my headshot weapons,2 tap juice all day

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I think the dude in the video might just be scared of melee

terse idol
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Camo is fine

near shore
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Camo is fine I agree

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Coughs....but if you hit your headshot

terse idol
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The intention seemingly with the build ISS just focusing on shooting forever which okay I get it
I will however bash his choices of melee
Antax or the Rashad for single target which yeah thats fair, but a rashad is perfectly good to deal with some hordes too

near shore
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Devil claw

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Like I use the slug shot and the only reason I blast maulers is because of no respite and really only when I need to

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Otherwise it's 2 slugs to the chest

snow pendant
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if is close enough to eat all the pellets just blast him

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if is far enough then load the slugh and down him

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slug has a lot knockback and will floor him

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even crusher with get floored if u give it 2 slugs

serene sage
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slug is for long range gunners and crushers

snow pendant
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another reason to love the slug is that is a doorknocker shoot the bulwark and is open season because 1 slug will knock that shield aside

serene sage
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that's about it

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oh yeah bulwarks too

snow pendant
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if u got the time load the slug and then shoot the crusher's head

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proper build will 2 shot it

terse idol
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Well for hordes

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I kiiinda understand his video

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Kinda wished he broke down the axe stuff but eh

serene sage
terse idol
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I don't think it's good to encourage people to shoot alot into hordes with a lasgun if they're more new

serene sage
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crusher takes like 3-4 slug shots

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realistically

terse idol
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You do need to actually handle hordes with a solid melee weapon to make something work

snow pendant
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there is not 1 las weapon is good for horde

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unless u wanna bring the recon lasgun

serene sage
snow pendant
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and that gun is instantly shit against anything that has armor

serene sage
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it's not ideal by clear speed is quite decent

serene sage
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you just can't block KEKW_ogryn

snow pendant
terse idol
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Yeah that video brought up a good point that the lasgun does penetrate so its not the worst

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But it's just eh

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Not something I'd recommend

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Time to cook my own video and get blasted

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😌

snow pendant
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the best a lasgun can go through is 1 body

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thats only when crit

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is not like the revolver where it can go through 4 body

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thats why is so good to kill specials or elites with

near shore
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Ya he showed it going through just 2 trash mobs

white minnow
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crit doesn't affect cleave

near shore
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Forget Lazer weapons,put a slug through a heretic across the map

untold mulch
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We need more las weapons

finite imp
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we need a dedicated slug shotty tbh

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slugs shouldnt be a special ammo dammit

tall torrent
untold mulch
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My zealot so much wants a only slug shot

terse idol
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It's assuming the rashad is built in this case only for single target like for maulers and crushers

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Kiiiinda wished he broke it down

tall torrent
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And he said axe effective vs maulers & crushers
It’s partially true because it does a decent amount of damage
But unless you actually spend the talents to improve melee dmg, the TTK against those targets won’t be that great

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If you’re not getting 4 overhead kills on maulers & crushers with combat axe, it’s not effective enough to be considered as “anti-carapace”

terse idol
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Yeah, I forgot that without the right talents and bp's you're looking at maybe even 6 shooting a crusher

tall torrent
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Especially now that crusher stagger got changed

terse idol
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Not gooood

tall torrent
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That build is much better off running a low investment weapon

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Like a power sword

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Or even a folding shovel

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Combat axes need a serious amount of talents invested to be great

blazing veldt
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Knife

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since chances are you're going to take reciprocity and precision strikes anyways regardless of weapon

tall torrent
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On a dedicated sharpshooter build you won’t always have reciprocity

blazing veldt
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true but I love recip too much not to take it

finite imp
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have yall considered knife

tall torrent
finite imp
tall torrent
finite imp
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lmao

tall torrent
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Idrc abt “top scoreboard”

finite imp
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U AINT CARE

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knife brings joy knife brings passion

civic knot
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Hey Im back to ask about a good melee weapon for my argi shotgun build

tall torrent
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Any attempt at showing off ur top scores just get scoffed at as “bad teammates so ofc u did more dmg”

tall torrent
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It’s a boring mind game I’m not interested in playing

civic knot
finite imp
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if every teammate is bad compared to you

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then you good

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win= you win

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Everyone wins

tall torrent
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If the topic was on “are u skilled” instead of “is this build really meta” then scoreboard holds more value

woven tide
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Knife is life

civic knot
finite imp
umbral scaffold
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Knife

finite imp
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KNIIIIIIIIIIFE

tall torrent
finite imp
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??

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at least i dont think i did

tall torrent
tall torrent
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Because stamina regen delay directly makes ur melee better

civic knot
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hmmmm

tall torrent
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Without it, veteran’s stamina is pretty bad

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1s regen delay (as in, after every blocked attack, every dodge, you will need 1s before stamina starts regen)

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And it regens 1 bar per second

civic knot
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check the image i replied to

umbral scaffold
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The base stamina regen delay is ass on melee vet

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It used to be worse, but you still need that .25 to be on the same delay as zealot

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I think it used to be 1.25 before the buffs

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Then they lowered base to 1 and kept the nodes

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100% don't remove desperado

civic knot
umbral scaffold
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Depends

civic knot
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check the replied message

tall torrent
umbral scaffold
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As a weapon stat it's attack speed too, but to my memory finesse from blessings and talents is crit/weakspot damage

tall torrent
finite imp
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knife pierces crushers, has hella stamina, does horde clear

tall torrent
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Knife does not have hella stamina lol

umbral scaffold
civic knot
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first image is headshot damage with desperado, second is without

civic knot
umbral scaffold
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Shovel wants uncanny strike and skullcrusher or thrust tbh

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I take skullcrusher

wanton dawn
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Been I while since I reach those overkill ratio on damn whatthefuck_heresy

past knot
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Helbore mk1 is onslaught surgical?

wanton dawn
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Nowhere limbsplitter level still

finite imp
tall torrent
wanton dawn
gray finch
umbral scaffold
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I unironically don't take onslaught on helbores because it means I have less surgical stacks each full charge

past knot
finite imp
past knot
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Btw

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Deadshot?

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Ye or nah?

wanton dawn
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Now that keepswinging works with bayo, am gonna have a field days

gray finch
past knot
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For helbore

finite imp
umbral scaffold
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Deadshot is nice for it

civic knot
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Heres another example with new chainaxe: First is without desperado, second is with

umbral scaffold
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It doesn't fire too much

gray finch
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only need is for push

tall torrent
civic knot
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fine ill try with knife

past knot
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Deadshot really doesn't feel right

iron marten
past knot
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With helbore

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But idk

iron marten
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oh shit

tall torrent
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Unless you have haymaker 4

civic knot
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huh? with attack speed tho?

umbral scaffold
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Knife gets silly numbers

gray finch
umbral scaffold
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Slap infested on it, stack crit and it's a one-shot party

iron marten
civic knot
tall torrent
umbral scaffold
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Very

tall torrent
umbral scaffold
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4 times

gray finch
civic knot
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with desperado, without desperado

gray finch
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unarmoured get killed by 2 light attacks hitting 3 targets while infected you killing them with 2 light but targetting 2 targets

finite imp
tall torrent
gray finch
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both

civic knot
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I mean shovel does the job in terms of melee damage against single target i think... Just ... is mk 3 always bad for horde clear? i feel like theres better options.... maybe shovel 7?

finite imp
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For knives you do uncanny/executor, two blessings that feed into each other

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BIG SMACKS

gray finch
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i will go with lacerate uncanny really

finite imp
civic knot
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oh whoops sry

finite imp
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shovels ARE fun tho

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the OG shovel is pretty feckin good

civic knot
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Could axe do the job?

tall torrent
finite imp
civic knot
tall torrent
finite imp
civic knot
finite imp
civic knot
finite imp
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aim high

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so you get those yummy headshots

tall torrent
civic knot
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ok so whats better, bromentum rashaad or decimator shovel mk 3?

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for horde?

finite imp
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depends on you

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both are good

tall torrent
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Rashad will kill hordes faster

civic knot
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huh really?

frank ether
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mk3 shovel is not a horde clear weapon

tall torrent
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You just will take significantly more time rolling a good Rashad

finite imp
frank ether
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its just not gonna compete with rashad

finite imp
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im filling his wants here. if you want me to ignore all that im gonna say knife

tall torrent
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You’re pitting a horde control type melee vs one of the best all-rounded melee weapons in the entire game

frank ether
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I'll be honest

tall torrent
frank ether
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like %90 pickaxe shovel users

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would be better off

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on heavy knife

blazing veldt
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Knife^

finite imp
frank ether
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its fast it and it does it all

tall torrent
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You want unarmored + brutal momentum + headtaker

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For Rashad

civic knot
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wot

frank ether
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imagine if mk3 shovel had bromentum though

blazing veldt
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you can 3-4shot crushers with heavy stabs

tall torrent
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It has like no strikedown patterns besides H2 which is a direct overhead

frank ether
civic knot
frank ether
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but uh

tall torrent
frank ether
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guess its not as good as ogy shovel

finite imp
tall torrent
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If u roll BM or headtaker, it’s saved

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You never know

civic knot
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ill do it

finite imp
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i dont throw plasteel at anything under 360

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but tbf i have piles of amazing shit ive been playing 400 hours

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so my standards naturally shift

blazing veldt
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honestly that's fine except for pen/finesse

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penesse

finite imp
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😄

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my penesse damage

civic knot
tall torrent
blazing veldt
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I run a 345 base revolver cause only the reload speed and mobility are lacking the rest are at least 78

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and it's the cowboy revolver cause I just like the animation better

civic knot
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how does rashaad fare against crushers?

snow pendant
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what is the best dagger build for vet ?

tall torrent
snow pendant
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lacerate + mercy killer ?

tall torrent
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Crit can also 1 HS a bulwark

blazing veldt
civic knot
snow pendant
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lacerate + mercy killer for zealot then ?

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cuz bleed

tall torrent
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Uncanny is still needed for anti-armor

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Unless u go backstab route

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I think for zealot u want lacerate/riposte with uncanny/backstab

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Depends on the playstyle ur going for

snow pendant
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ok

near shore
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For vet,I don't even take a bleed blessing

wanton dawn
near shore
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Just the skill tree node

iron marten
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ty btw

near shore
# snow pendant lacerate + mercy killer ?

For vet
Rending back stab + mercy killer
Or
Uncanny strike + mercy killer

Then take the bleed on melee skill tree node, open up with a punch and then immediately light,since after a punch a light comes out as a heavy down strike

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I even have picture proof of it doing 15k+ on a beast of nurgle

snow pendant
near shore
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theres a skill in the vet tree

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one sec ill show u

umbral scaffold
finite imp
near shore
near shore
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this is why you done need a bleed perk on your knife if ur just going for nutty dmg

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it can 1 shot crushers

finite imp
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if you're gonna take serrated get mercy killer

near shore
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yes

near shore
finite imp
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would swap to uncanny

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just me tho

wanton dawn
near shore
finite imp
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i see i see

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i wanna try now

near shore
wanton dawn
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Also I dunno if it works with all true_level config, its for me i don't bother testing everything

finite imp
wanton dawn
finite imp
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deff need to build ANOTHER knife

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MORE KNIFE

near shore
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what you do is pop infiltrate, open with a bunch 4 a bleed then light to immediatly heavy

finite imp
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HMMMMMMMMM

near shore
finite imp
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lemme check my current pile of knives

near shore
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1 punch, 1 heavy, .3 seconds to kill

finite imp
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FUCK sakes

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does the punch need to land

near shore
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yes, it procs the bleed but theres no delay after for the light

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punch makes a light attack into a strike down heavy

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and u can cancel the punch to rapidly heavy

finite imp
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lol the punch does bleed

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epic

tall torrent
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Yea punch into strikedown works really well for single target

near shore
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this is withought the punch landing, so it didnt 1 shot immeditalty

finite imp
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i must try thees

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you stab the back of the head right

tall torrent
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Just kind of point heavy because u need 3 points to get serrated blade

near shore
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had the punch landed, id be insta dead

finite imp
near shore
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ya but do 15k dmg in a single hit

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which tech, i didnt use the "+25% dmg to other weapon upon weapong kill" im guessing it could hit 18k

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also works on the front, so u could 2 shot a crusher in the face

finite imp
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i had a knife already raring to do the job i wanted

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lets GOOOOOOOO

near shore
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fucking pog

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want the bulid?

finite imp
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HE SAID PICK ME BOSS

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sure

near shore
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its just all dmg

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actually ill take "bring it down"

finite imp
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im not seeing the first rung

near shore
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its just close order drill and confirmed kill

finite imp
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what nade

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krak?

near shore
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krak

umbral scaffold
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Meanwhile I'm just shitting crits at like idk 90% rate or something

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Krak

near shore
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ya, its 2 shotting all special units lol from infront

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1 hit, no buffs

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and i dont have flak dmg

finite imp
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oh boy here i go stabbing

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AGAIN

near shore
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also it wasnt a crit

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no buffs

finite imp
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time to practice my punch stabs

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so punch into Heavy 1

untold mulch
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600k damage

near shore
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punch into light

untold mulch
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I think is my record

near shore
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light becomes heavy after a punch

untold mulch
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I sure love T5 HI IN

With 2 level 23

umbral scaffold
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Same

untold mulch
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and one of them constantly deciding I can fuck off by myself

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5 times he separated

5 times he died

umbral scaffold
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He had a performance problem

untold mulch
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No shit

umbral scaffold
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A skill issue if you will

near shore
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almost 17k

untold mulch
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rage quitted

the bot was better

untold mulch
finite imp
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i love how its always blurry lmfao

inland orchid
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Beast of nurgle back shots? whatthefuck_heresy

untold mulch
umbral scaffold
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The backest of stabbies

finite imp
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it looks like you're moshing with a beast

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lmao

midnight totem
finite imp
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just peek over there and randomly tag one of them

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be a menace

near shore
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practice the timing and u can get a fuck ton of heavys very fast

finite imp
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WHACK

floral crow
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Howdy everyone

finite imp
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ive been knifing for a minute i got heavy spam down