#veteran-class
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As someone who’s never actually touched smokes and doesn’t wanna jump on a bandwagon of hating it without trying.
Does it have any use, even if niche in a build
Errr
as someone who's never actually touched smokes and is on the bandwagon, they're shit
Annoy your teammates
I'm out of points 😭
Smoke are... something
Smokes are truly a blitz taht was made
one of the grenade choices of all time
I guess I could drop Conditioning
I havent ever run smokes, but i've played with vets that have and the whole match was annoying cuz I couldnt see shit. And they didnt seem to help with anything
I legitimately hate smoke grenades
Gonna run my vape nation build some day
dear god...
If smokes suppressed any enemies inside and stops all ranged attacks from going through including snipers
maybe
That holy incense
his goals are beyond our understanding
Smokes could be cool if they did something else. Maybe grant invis inside and for 1-2 seconds upon leaving? Idk
My reaction to launching smoke the first time: 
Join in on the maelstrom with enhanced blitz. Throwing smokes any chance
attack damage buff
make them smelling saltsd
I’ve heard people say if it marked enemies inside it would be cool. But… I dunno. I haven’t even actually SEEM someone run it
Teammates: ...Was there a ventilation purge modifier?
Can demolition team replace grenade regen?
That or like. Maybe an enemy in smoke always counts as being backstabbed or something.
If you want grenades back without having to pick them up?
giving stealth to the entire team would be pretty cool actually
while inside smoke
Rip a fat cloud: Team, focus target that heretic
its amazing in auric, i would say its pretty close
the AI would flip
Both are great together, either one is solid on its own
Is it even effective at what it does though. Like, taking fire off you?
accurate representation
Demo team is my only grenade regen on non-VoC builds.
Or no
I wont play a match without one or the other, I dont care which, its just whichever one I can reach with the build
I hated the charge time lol bolter just feels good to shoot
It is... kinda...
Sometimes yes
Or is it just on of the blitz of all time
doesnt stop snipers though
Its helpful on exectutioners stance buikds
Which one for agri shotgun & stab shovel loadout? My final dilemma xD
Hey. If it’s stops other people from doing stuff. I’ll take the niche use of “being a greedy bastard and killing everything”
I like the right more. You're using weapon specialist and agile engagement is nice
Well. Lets put it that way: check the gamegrump video where arin give jontron the controller for sonic snowboard. That's how smoke feels
I'd take the melee one (second one?) Agile engagement is great
Is it that great for agri shotgun tho?
Plus my team is gonna be pissed cause I'm running move speed aura xD
i wont be pissed ill just be FAST
Oh whoops
I legit barely use agri shotgun, but if you're running weapon spec and switching then I'd go melee damage and agile engagement. And I'd prefer movement aura over damage aura, 5% is nothing. If you arent running ammo then increase movement
these are some cursed ass builds
That's the right quote
I’ll talk shit when I actually try it. But I think I know what I’m expecting at least
Solution: Don't charge. You don't need it. The only thing it's for is if you want to 1 tap a crusher. Otherwise it's a troll mechanic to suck your ammo up at this point in weapon balance. You're using plasma. Tap firing will eliminate most things and everything behind it. If you dislike slow plasma because of charging I can't see you liking the slow swap speed, small mag of bolter and recoil. While plasma is plasma and stupidly overtuned
You will probably feel a void the first time
The unexpected expected
What Legate said. Basically dont ever charge the plasma gun, just spam left clicks the whole time. MAYBE charge it once to take out a lined up crusher pack, thats basically it
Imma join an auric maelstrom with vape nation build and post it
votekicked
Smoke are like, a though black hole
I want to use stripped down with an autogun with duck and dive
I want to run through 50 gunners
You try to think about it and it just absorb your thinking time without giving anything back
I just eat their bullets while firing back at them
but what if you want to be in melee range
I do this with the agri brauto, its so much fun. I actually really like hit and run + stripped down, you can sprint across the whole map through gunners, get in their face, and become immune while you kill them all
Is hit and run needed though
No its not, it just helps you not get deleted when you're solo behind enemy lines after sprinting across the gap
makes sense
What should I run?
away from me
I'll bring a knife
Let's fuck
A keystone...
And suppression immunity probably
90% of the time you want to run suppression immunity
nah just used cover
Mmmm nah
what
What on god’s green earth
This is possible?!
boom you pop up over the edge
I only realized you can peek over cover as veteran after 200 hours into the game
only the top of your head peeks out
Wait what
Why smokes? Are you high?
YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES ARE YOU SERIOUS
Youre fuckin with me
If I'm using scav I'll bring plasma. If I'm not, that's what the smokes are for. For fucking with the gunners
yes
Alrighty I've got an idea to help smoke grenades.
Smokes: +20% stamina Regen upon entering ( last 3 seconds upon exiting) +25% stamina restore when entering smoke (5-8 second cool down,so you can't spam it by dodging in and out of smoke)
Smokes cause those caught within to cough (1-2 seconds)
Allies within see shooters
Vape nation build
Yes yo ucan
I have played 800 hours and I didnt know you can mount cover. I assume lies until I do it
SOMEONE CALL THE COMISSAR
GO AHEAD
REPORT BACK
yall just realized
haha
JESUS FUCK
Auric ready Vape Nation build. Gonna be hot boxing the hive
EIGHT HUNDRED
Light? In my grimdark future? Heretical.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
I do it sometimes because funny
Well… as long as you win…
Light of the emperor 🙏
Still want a powerfist.
its literally a class signature move
Run kraks/shredder depending on your needs, run blue weakspot damage talent in the left tree, run the middle talent in focus target and remove the left one that gives toughness (it's unnecessary)
Vape Nation build
Oh I see...
I never knew this as well - I have 900 hours…
I am the vent purge mod
Need the smoke
Like look at it this way
You beautiful genius. Goddamn
What’s mount cover
HAHA
I wish it gave anh accuracy bonus
Shredders are good vs hordes
Krak is good vs crushers
Smoke is good vs shooters
If shooters can't shoot you you never die
Just goes to show, theres always something to learn. Like Fatshark is terrible at explaining its mechanics
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Also
I'm....
Only Vet can
this also
Like, holding jump over a waist-height object allows u to mantle over it?
Because alot of the knowledge I know was downloaded from vt2
no
Or smth else
get behind a piece of cover, ADS
Vet is the only one who knows how to poke his head
you peek over it
vet can peak over cover when adsing
WHAT
Huh?
NOT YOU TOO
Only veteran can??
you can peak over cover and ADS shoot peeps. I just tested
yes
its a class feature
Yep, Zealot can't
@wanton dawn sorry for the ping, but did you know about this vet mechanic as well?
i give up
ITS LEGIT A CLASS FEATURE FOR SOME REASON
WHERE DOES FATSHARK EXPLAIN THE CLASS FEATURE
i thought i knew this discord. I thought i knew you people. I thought we were FAMILY
JESUS LADS, I DID IT ACCIDENTALLY IN THE FIRST 2 HOURS WTF
pretty sure it only tells you in character creation like ogyrn trait
I've known about it, never used it even a single time

Dammit Brunt
HOW DO YOU SHOOT FOR 800 HOURS WITHOUT NEVER PEEKING COVER
You press E? Or just crouch by cover?
this is why guardmen only last 15 hours
crouch
The cover peek ? I learned it recently but it is not something that I would have realized no
15 MINUTES MORE LIKE
Lmfao
Taking cover is a less of a necessity when u can 1 HS everything
Cover is for the weak
I mean, I almost only play vet
Cover hasn't been really useful in this game when you got a horde running towards you from BEHIND
lets all just pretend we always knew this ok
Even if I did realize I would not have though it to be class specific
I didn't believe I could think lower of Fatshark in terms of obfuscating it's own gameplay but here I am, learning about a core feature 800 hours into the game
What does mounting over cover even do
And to be fair, I rarely ever use croutch cover
Does it reduce your recoil?
The Emperor protects
Does it make you suppression immune?
Probably not
True, just pop VoC
Don't need cover when gamers can click heads for infinite toughness hack
What’s the fucking point then
I mean like oh my god wait
not really, cause I have mounted cover on Bolter before and felt no diference
5'5 vet is the meta then
the animation is hella cool 
any good? I don't remember the godly stat requirement
Because if you're taller you cannot take cover
SHORT KING
that's about it
Can u show it
I’m curious
Also have huge size vet 
im at work
Oof
I'm a manlet vet
but it's the gun up animation when you are not ADSing
I just crouch
Yea I went for biggest size vet as well
Wait is this because anyone who didn't notice made giants as guardsmen?
and then when you ADS it goes down
I picked average height but it looks like that counts as manlet
I went for biggest size cuz easier melee headshots
tall chad vet here
Like there was discussion when the meta was choosing the shortest height because it let you take cover behind more things
mine is slightly above average
get brutal momentum instead of thrust, maniac instead of weak spot. decent axe. Oh wait, its from Melk? I wouldnt waste coin on it.
but not by much
I went for biggest size cuz my vet is an amazon
They gave me a height bar. Imma use the entire height bar
And get shot

why not
the problem is our operatives are so skinny except for the ogryn
so max height makes you look so lanky
SLIP AND SLIDE BB
Does anyone have recording of “mounting gun over cover” with veteran
And what’s the exact input to do it
Just ADS near a piece of cover and crouch?
it's just an animation play, no input, walk behind cover, crouch
Yes
I would assume just ADS near the cover like most other popular shooters
aim, that's it
Lowkey sad we didn’t get sliders for character creation for the face and whatnot. I was just gonna max everything, and make my character red, like what I did in ds3
Don't need to slide if you got manlet powers
😌
low pen and first target stats, no T4 blessings and 20% flak. I dont buy from Melk unless I can get a T4 blessing out of it OR the itemization is perfect
So just ADS near cover
Behind cover and crouched
that's insane
sadge
I just never hugged cover
I always crouched before
like not many FPS let you do that now a days
Wait, is that an RPG ? 
yummers
Basically you can probably do better at Hadron unless you just really want a decent axe without hunting. But melk bucks are time gated so I like to use em for Blessing hunting.
Especially since you only have 4000 melk bucks, what happens when you buy that ok axe adn then tomorrow you see a T4 power cycler on the shop
You stay rich by not giving out freebies
maybe skip that latte
Shouldn't have crafted so much avocado toast at hadrons
power cycler is the blessing that makes the power sword godly, and its super rare, usually you end up buying it from melk
Gotta skip the Guac frfr
NOW TO BE FAIR
Its as rare as any t4
remember chat, Hadron says "Good Varlet" to literally everyone, you're not special
But its like the only t4
i wasted shit trying to grab blessings for guns
That rreeallly matters
stop simping for her
She is for the manofacturums fr fr
"Are you pleased Varlet?"
Stamina +2
The good old days when people didn’t believe power cycler exists
Thats probably true but I still dont believe it.
to be fair, there was a time it did not, in fact, exist 
what does power cycler do
It draws two additional charges from your sword
damm
adds charged swings on a single activation. no blessings, you get 1 swing. T3 you get 2, T4 you get 3
can't wait for parkinsons since i gotta charge my sword every 2 hits
True
And when it did exist
Lordy was it broken
hows maelstrom different from normal mission
more modifiers
Imagine 7 heavy swings empowered. As the god emperor intended
more modifiers, fewer restrictions on director
There was also the time when the PS6 came out and power cycler added like 60 swings. Good lord that was funny
PS6 will still not be as powerful as my PC
console peasant
Director is angrier at you, and there are special modifiers you cant get elsewhere. Like more monstrosities, waves of mutants, etc. Its all just for fun, theres no extra rewards
My brother actually has a 550 rating ps3, and all I can say is, damn, just get a ps6 lol
Man, am sad no one noticed the phrasing
What’s the pc icon doing in front of pot of greed
It draws two additional charges from your dakka
let it go Craime, no one picked up on it

Still love it how I got Power Cycler from an emperor’s drop
You tried
0 plasteel spent on looking for it

PC3 I got it too that way
you guys just need to stop making the rookie mistake of crafting PS that doesn't come with it
It took like 400 hours to find my first PC4, now I have at least 3
elementary, really
This was back when the game first released in december, so power cycler was only a t4 blessing
Oh yeah, december 2022
It’s 2024 now
it has been 3 years
since this game was released
and they still can't fix it
truly
Me waiting for Konami to port this game
Truly they just don't care smh
I HOPE IS IN THE PART 2
MGS4 IS STILL A PS3 EXCLUSIVE GAME AAAAAAAAA
I have the disc right here
Can't wait for Konami to fuck up the SH2 remake
Idc about balance, I just hate that I've spent like 100 hours of playtime just loading the goddamn morningstar
I have the legacy collection, just not a ps3
aschutaully it's Mourningstar
🤓
Have you ever heard of the mod… Psych Ward!
Its Mourning Star because it causes me nothing but grief
Mourning for your plasteel
Niiiice
do you know what I hate?
Que eso?
that war has changed?
the fact that game covers now are plastered with awards
lile GOTY edition, best of XXXX
Is ridiculous now
triple aware
like 20%-30% of the cover are awards
or some kind of rating (which ig they have to include for compliance)
all time classic
I just want a nice clean cover damn it
shoot me
It basically adds button on character select, so you can skip loading times to go straight in a run, or look at the shop on your ogryn, without seeing a loading for the mourningstar
I see some of batman there
I do a pretty poor job explaining, so let me just record
but lets say
My parents through the years
careful about stuff I had as a kid
were not

I moved countries in 2010, so my ps2, mgs2 and mgs3 were left behind
😔
I know that feeling
like look at how good those are
just make those
but with paper
instead of steelbooks
like
or these
here, quick video I made
Gib that plasteel
what kind of sorcery is this
GIB
is that a real mod?
ye
is this real life?
no, mine! who knows when the next overtuned weapon will drop!
I have 20k reserved for Hellgun
Sooo, 10 rolls from gray to gold

Need to adquire more
good luck in the rice fields
At least since I moved to Damnation
All people with plasteel reserves have power cycler IV?
I actualyl get plasteel now
server dying?
I only have PC3
but because I really don't want to farm power sword
I feel is boring to use
I just installed this. This is literally EXACTLY what I wanted from Fatshark, thank you so much
np, friend
You just saved my sanity and so many hours of my life lol
lol
Understandable since it's basically a one trick pony.
I'm legit so happy about Psych Ward, I'm gonna shout its praises from the rooftops. The number of hours I wasted loading the MS just to look at brunt, is TOO DAMN HIGH
lmao
Especially since 40% of the time you get stuck infinite loading and need to alt-f4 and start over
smh why not 5
Not bad not bad
first 17% i got and it has the worst perks out of all my curios
ALL MY FELLAS
i need that 1% to switch here
thats a damn gopod curio
what do ya think fellas
thinking i might drop something for iron will
What weapons are u using
what rings u got bich
I use this for revolver weapon specialist build
rings?
I'm just quoting old videos ignore me
Btw @finite imp can u record what veteran’s cover mounting looks like
sure thing buddy 🙂
it can lol
Is like when ur gun’s barrel is pointed up 
There is no groaner damage
I feel like I did it in the tutorial
oh wait i posted the wrong pic
well im rolling the melee weak spot to something
That's insane

Maybe I am too used to cover shooters so the concept came as "of course it should have a mechanic about this"
But wait that still means manlet vets are extra meta
🥹
yes
I played cod when there wasn't this
and yet
You had to like prone
ill capture with my gpu i guess
I am more used by Killzone
Shame Guerilla wants their dinosaur game instead of continuing it 😭
remember hitting reload and YOUR DUDE ACTUALLY LOOKED DOWN TO PAY ATTENTIO TO WHAT THEYrE DOING
DETAIL
I remember the shitty accuracy of 2

Also the Sta-52 gave me a liking for helical mags
shame it ain't practical irl

In 2 I had the achievement of top 3% of all players 
signature look of superiority
Advanced movement
they were underleveled anyhow
Ya could've just left. Lol.
this was a learning moment
LMAO WHAT WAS THAT END
look dog i aint dedicating A 25 min match just to show cover mounting
smh
im studying Security+ rn

Man I wished I did not have to care about security
you dont have to 🙂
just give up
surrender to the hackers
Except I do
Use the same password fot everything
if they learn one, they deserve it
I just wished services stop asking for virgin blood everytime I need to enter a password
then mobile identification
then mail
for a freaking railway servicess
Then a recommendation from Jesus Christ
i have a hookup on virgin blood if you need it
cocaine
YOU THINK IM COOL ENOUGH TO GET BLOW HELL NAH WE WEARING GLASSES
ORANGE BOTTLE BOTTLE POPPIN PILLY WILLYS
I don't think you think at all
Huh

THIS IS HOW YOU SURVIVE IN DAMNATION
LESS BRAIN LESS DEATH
NO THINK
JUST RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

ive done 5 of my security+ lessons i should stop and space this stuff out or i wont absorb it
Y'all I just watched a video where this dude was like "ya,spam your laz gun into hordes" I commented on it giving my thought and he said "it's more efficient then your melee"
i dont think ur brain absorbs things that aren't amphetamines
😭
did he call you GAY
NOW TO BE FAIR
It you're running Marksmens focus shooting abit onto the horde is fine
Holy hell, is this what it feels to be on the cutting edge of build creation
But he was on about saving ammo and taking all ammo perks, and I'm like "just don't waste your shots?!"
yes

your takes are so hot and fresh people think you're insane
Why do you look at dt youtube guide though ?

The infantry lasgun is even ammo efficient enough that you could take shock trooper and not survivalist and be okay
He took both
you take one look at my builds and you think this guy is CHUGGING COCAINE +9 stamina, maxed out melee knife with a revolver
And suppression immunity despite having execution stance
I literally cannot kill fast enough it's torture
behold this fucking thing
that's an awfully hot coffee pot
LOOK at the thing
How TF are you gonna take survivalist + shock trooper then spam a headshot based weapon into horde then complain about ammo
Mfw +9 Stam with 85% sprint efficiency so I inject all the blue juice in the mission into myself
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
my brother in throneside
Does stripped down make you immune the flamers as well? Not the fire on the ground obviously but the stream of fire?
This is boiling my blood so bad I feel my teeth are gonna fall out
+1 stamina from tree, +9 from curios. +2 from weapon. + Sprint efficiency from tree and curio + stamina recovery +5% movement speed aura +25% movement speed from infiltrate
Want the video? The mf replied to my comment and said it's more efficient then melee for hordes to just spam shots, but it doesn't do shit vs any armor and body shots
I think psyker has the highest potential movement speed in the game
Made it to lvl 100 with Veteran
I mean sure, I'm not gonna spark a witch hunt but I'm curious
No need to witch hunt,it just confuses me
First video of 2024 is one of my most used builds! Purely focused on shooting everything with the Emperors Flashlight, this build will turn you into the ranged beast you always wanted to be.
Let me know which Lasgun you like best on Veteran down below!
The Infantry Lasgun breakdown video can be found in the playlist below, alongside my other ...
With this gun I would argue that you don't need any ammo perks
If it's built right,all things die in 3 or less shots
I assume that's the 1a
Hell,my mark 7 headhunter can 2 shot reapers
You'll at least want survivalist
Well it's nice to have at least one, but you can get away with none
It's not like my shotgun that needs it
Speed over power any day
I like my headshot weapons,2 tap juice all day
I think the dude in the video might just be scared of melee
Camo is fine
The intention seemingly with the build ISS just focusing on shooting forever which okay I get it
I will however bash his choices of melee
Antax or the Rashad for single target which yeah thats fair, but a rashad is perfectly good to deal with some hordes too
Devil claw
Like I use the slug shot and the only reason I blast maulers is because of no respite and really only when I need to
Otherwise it's 2 slugs to the chest
if is close enough to eat all the pellets just blast him
if is far enough then load the slugh and down him
slug has a lot knockback and will floor him
even crusher with get floored if u give it 2 slugs
slug is for long range gunners and crushers
another reason to love the slug is that is a doorknocker shoot the bulwark and is open season because 1 slug will knock that shield aside
if u got the time load the slug and then shoot the crusher's head
proper build will 2 shot it
Yuh
Well for hordes
I kiiinda understand his video
Kinda wished he broke down the axe stuff but eh
well I can't, and I run full left side with exec stance 
I don't think it's good to encourage people to shoot alot into hordes with a lasgun if they're more new
You do need to actually handle hordes with a solid melee weapon to make something work
thats fine , but zealot has better time with shotgun because of just that 1 node , the one that gives more dmg the closer the target is
there is not 1 las weapon is good for horde
unless u wanna bring the recon lasgun
BM Bayonet? 🤨
and that gun is instantly shit against anything that has armor
it's not ideal by clear speed is quite decent
Exactly
you just can't block 
if u got macro otherwise u risk arthritis
Yeah that video brought up a good point that the lasgun does penetrate so its not the worst
But it's just eh
Not something I'd recommend
Time to cook my own video and get blasted
😌
the best a lasgun can go through is 1 body
thats only when crit
is not like the revolver where it can go through 4 body
thats why is so good to kill specials or elites with
Ya he showed it going through just 2 trash mobs
crit doesn't affect cleave
Forget Lazer weapons,put a slug through a heretic across the map
We need more las weapons
The issue with his build is that he won’t have the bruiser breakpoints for combat axe and that’s a pretty big deal
My zealot so much wants a only slug shot
yeah that's my issue
It's assuming the rashad is built in this case only for single target like for maulers and crushers
Kiiiinda wished he broke it down
And he said axe effective vs maulers & crushers
It’s partially true because it does a decent amount of damage
But unless you actually spend the talents to improve melee dmg, the TTK against those targets won’t be that great
If you’re not getting 4 overhead kills on maulers & crushers with combat axe, it’s not effective enough to be considered as “anti-carapace”
Yeah, I forgot that without the right talents and bp's you're looking at maybe even 6 shooting a crusher
Especially now that crusher stagger got changed
Not gooood
That build is much better off running a low investment weapon
Like a power sword
Or even a folding shovel
Combat axes need a serious amount of talents invested to be great
Knife
since chances are you're going to take reciprocity and precision strikes anyways regardless of weapon
On a dedicated sharpshooter build you won’t always have reciprocity
true but I love recip too much not to take it
Haymaker + uncanny with mk6 can be ok for veteran
by ok you mean scoring at the top of the scoreboards in T5
By ok I mean it’s playable & fun if you’re into it
nah i hate this shit
lmao
Idrc abt “top scoreboard”
thats why you don't play KNIFE
U AINT CARE
knife brings joy knife brings passion
Hey Im back to ask about a good melee weapon for my argi shotgun build
There’s just too much variation to scoreboard to prove a point
Any attempt at showing off ur top scores just get scoffed at as “bad teammates so ofc u did more dmg”
It’s a boring mind game I’m not interested in playing
Tried powersword, found it to require too much setup and just didnt jive with weapon specialist. Tried new axe with headtaker + bloodletter but im finding that it's hordekilling is lacking. Tried shovel but idk if it kills horde fast enough (using the mk 3)
if every teammate is bad compared to you
then you good
win= you win
Everyone wins
If the topic was on “are u skilled” instead of “is this build really meta” then scoreboard holds more value
Knife is life
Basically I need a melee weapon that can 1: handle crushers, and 2: horde clear alright, and 3: doesnt require any of the perks to reduce stamina regen cooldown
im playing knife idgaf about meta lol
Knife
KNIIIIIIIIIIFE
Yea so as long as u have fun and find it playable, what’s the problem
i didn't say there was one?
??
at least i dont think i did

Number 1 and 2 can be done fairly easily
You should really rethink about number 3 though
Because stamina regen delay directly makes ur melee better
hmmmm
Without it, veteran’s stamina is pretty bad
1s regen delay (as in, after every blocked attack, every dodge, you will need 1s before stamina starts regen)
And it regens 1 bar per second
so what, remove desperado (+10% melee crit chance and +25% finesse)?
check the image i replied to
The base stamina regen delay is ass on melee vet
It used to be worse, but you still need that .25 to be on the same delay as zealot
I think it used to be 1.25 before the buffs
Then they lowered base to 1 and kept the nodes
100% don't remove desperado
keep in mind that finesse is also attack speed....
@umbral scaffold
Depends
check the replied message
Was 1.25 in patch13, buffed to 1 in patch14 I believe because patch13 vet was peak sadness
As a weapon stat it's attack speed too, but to my memory finesse from blessings and talents is crit/weakspot damage
knife 
Lemme think abt it
knife pierces crushers, has hella stamina, does horde clear
Knife does not have hella stamina lol
I'd remove iron will to get stamina regen delay
first image is headshot damage with desperado, second is without
never
this is with shovel 3 btw
Been I while since I reach those overkill ratio on damn 
Helbore mk1 is onslaught surgical?
Nowhere limbsplitter level still
i forgot there are people who don't run +9 stam
If you really need that 20% reload speed on keystone you’d need to drop some very important stuff
Do NOT use my blessing as reference
XD i run 3x hp with knife
I unironically don't take onslaught on helbores because it means I have less surgical stacks each full charge
Get out sir milk gave them to me first
with +9 stamina you can block so much abuse
But man its way funier with onslaught
Btw
Deadshot?
Ye or nah?
Now that keepswinging works with bayo, am gonna have a field days
you just dodge everythink
For helbore
that too
Deadshot is nice for it
Heres another example with new chainaxe: First is without desperado, second is with
It doesn't fire too much
only need is for push
Chainaxe isn’t that great at horde clear
fine ill try with knife
Deadshot really doesn't feel right
source for the true level part of the scoreboard?
Me
oh shit
Knife is extra not good at horde clear
Unless you have haymaker 4
huh? with attack speed tho?
Knife gets silly numbers
literally worst blessing on knife
Slap infested on it, stack crit and it's a one-shot party
I'm assuming I can't ask for the files?
attack speed from the 10% node and also weapon spec its gonna be good i think
You’re not gonna believe this but 1 shotting 4 enemies in 1 hit is better horde clear than attacking 4 times really fast to kill 1 guy
Very
On mk6 it’s ok?
4 times
you hitting 3 targer at max with heavy and light attack with lacerate/flesh tearer do the job perfectly
with desperado, without desperado
unarmoured get killed by 2 light attacks hitting 3 targets while infected you killing them with 2 light but targetting 2 targets
bruh
Are we talking poxer hordes or bruiser hordes
both
I mean shovel does the job in terms of melee damage against single target i think... Just ... is mk 3 always bad for horde clear? i feel like theres better options.... maybe shovel 7?
For knives you do uncanny/executor, two blessings that feed into each other
BIG SMACKS
i know
i will go with lacerate uncanny really
wasnt talking to you lol
oh whoops sry
all gg
shovels ARE fun tho
the OG shovel is pretty feckin good
Could axe do the job?
Mk3 and mk7 both have relentless light atks
Rashad? ehhh
its just that I wanna special stabby stab
Yes, it just takes a lot more work for u to roll a good one
get the mk3 then
with bromentum, cant you hordeclear alright?
yes
already gotten
It’s not “alright”, it’s one of the best in the game
Rashad will kill hordes faster
huh really?
mk3 shovel is not a horde clear weapon
You just will take significantly more time rolling a good Rashad
he wanted the spike tho
its just not gonna compete with rashad
im filling his wants here. if you want me to ignore all that im gonna say knife
You’re pitting a horde control type melee vs one of the best all-rounded melee weapons in the entire game
I'll be honest
Keep going
Knife^
KNIFEMAXXING
its fast it and it does it all
wot
imagine if mk3 shovel had bromentum though
you can 3-4shot crushers with heavy stabs
Prob wouldn’t change much cuz it’s all relentless strikes
It has like no strikedown patterns besides H2 which is a direct overhead
I imagine I could get special heavy hit on multiple maulers or something
but uh
Take to gold if u could
guess its not as good as ogy shovel
brother imma be 1005
ill do it
i dont throw plasteel at anything under 360
but tbf i have piles of amazing shit ive been playing 400 hours
so my standards naturally shift
keep going here too?
That one I’m less sure because finesse is low
I run a 345 base revolver cause only the reload speed and mobility are lacking the rest are at least 78
and it's the cowboy revolver cause I just like the animation better
how does rashaad fare against crushers?
what is the best dagger build for vet ?
3-4 heavies if you build for melee dmg
lacerate + mercy killer ?
3 if crit, 4 if no crit
Crit can also 1 HS a bulwark
Talents, reciprocity precision strikes blessings, executioner and uncanny
uncanny strike is mandatory
Uncanny is still needed for anti-armor
Unless u go backstab route
I think for zealot u want lacerate/riposte with uncanny/backstab
Depends on the playstyle ur going for
ok
For vet,I don't even take a bleed blessing
Lemme check I might just share the code part
Just the skill tree node
For vet
Rending back stab + mercy killer
Or
Uncanny strike + mercy killer
Then take the bleed on melee skill tree node, open up with a punch and then immediately light,since after a punch a light comes out as a heavy down strike
I even have picture proof of it doing 15k+ on a beast of nurgle
how to get bleed for mercy killer without lacerate or does this have to use shredder grenade for bleed
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b2005bc-d6ff-49aa-ac5b-80b99ba75351/zoomy-knife-vet this is my g*mer way
looks like a guy with dreads headbanging
smackdown?????? no
this is why you done need a bleed perk on your knife if ur just going for nutty dmg
it can 1 shot crushers
if you're gonna take serrated get mercy killer
yes
not bad but backstabs are kinda circumstancial
would swap to uncanny
just me tho
Add the code from the snippet into your true_level.lua file at the given location from screenshot
its for 1 shottting crushers and that 15700 dmg on beast of nurlge u saw
OHHHHH
i see i see
i wanna try now
if u want i can stream it for u really quick
Also I dunno if it works with all true_level config, its for me i don't bother testing everything
i believe you brother
but this should be enough to add true_level into the scoreboard
what you do is pop infiltrate, open with a bunch 4 a bleed then light to immediatly heavy
lemme check my current pile of knives
1 punch, 1 heavy, .3 seconds to kill
yes, it procs the bleed but theres no delay after for the light
punch makes a light attack into a strike down heavy
and u can cancel the punch to rapidly heavy
Yea punch into strikedown works really well for single target
this is withought the punch landing, so it didnt 1 shot immeditalty
Just kind of point heavy because u need 3 points to get serrated blade
had the punch landed, id be insta dead

ya but do 15k dmg in a single hit
which tech, i didnt use the "+25% dmg to other weapon upon weapong kill" im guessing it could hit 18k
also works on the front, so u could 2 shot a crusher in the face
im not seeing the first rung
its just close order drill and confirmed kill
krak
ya, its 2 shotting all special units lol from infront
1 hit, no buffs
and i dont have flak dmg
600k damage
punch into light
I think is my record
light becomes heavy after a punch
I sure love T5 HI IN
With 2 level 23
Same
and one of them constantly deciding I can fuck off by myself
5 times he separated
5 times he died
He had a performance problem
No shit
A skill issue if you will
almost 17k
rage quitted
the bot was better
damn
i love how its always blurry lmfao
Beast of nurgle back shots? 
Adds to the realism like a shacky camera irl
The backest of stabbies
Don't make me call the zealots into the veteran chat
WHACK
Howdy everyone
ive been knifing for a minute i got heavy spam down

