veteran-class

[tall torrent]

Graia mk8?

[bleak tangle]

infetry?

[sleek garden]

i think its the graia

let me boot up the game again

[inland orchid]

That pattern goes hard

[sleek garden]

i just got off because i got kicked in the final stage of a auric maelstrom and everyone else died in the 40 seconds it took me to reconnect

infuriating

i keep getting desynced then booted from matches

[bleak tangle]

that pattern goes everywhere except the target

[sleek garden]

yeah

thats why i got the blessing that gives bonus weakpoint damage on the 3rd and 4th shots in a salvo

because i hope the gun kicks up into their faces

[tall torrent]

That blessing is not very good

Graia mk8 is the lowest recoil IAG pretty sure

[frank basin]

What nft lazy ape? Someone lost server link?

Scam link again?

[tall torrent]

Those blessings aren’t very good

[sleek garden]

terrifying barrage feels good in a crowd idk

[frank basin]

For groaner

[sleek garden]

it makes all the little dudes cower for a moment

[tall torrent]

Terrifying barrage is bad, and punishing salvo might as well not exist

[sleek garden]

slows a horde

[bleak tangle]

I thought for Graia, you mainly need onslaught skill in the skill tree, not weakspot

it's a dakka gun

TB is good for this gun I'd argue

[sleek garden]

it gets hard to control after a moment especially if you're walking

so i burst fire it usually or empy it into a horde at head level

[bleak tangle]

saved my life a lot of time as zealot

[sleek garden]

also it makes gunners stop shooting

which is awesome

[slate sleet]

why is punishing salvo bad

[sleek garden]

i love breaking up a wall of scab gunners

[tall torrent]

For Graia mk8 it doesn’t matter enough

Mk1 u could at least make an argument for breakpoint sake

[bleak tangle]

but yeah, Punishing Salvo might not be a good choice for Graia, too dakka to control, too little starting dmg to matter

[slate sleet]

i use punishing salvo opening salvo agri1 and its incredible

[sleek garden]

i like to play veteran as anti shooter so i dont need it to do massive amounts of damage

[frank basin]

What can you kill with agri1?

[sleek garden]

it needs to put down maniacs and flak and unarmoured

[slate sleet]

everything?

[frank basin]

Are you sure

[bleak tangle]

everything cept mauler and crusher

if you aim

[slate sleet]

its the most versitile gun in the game

[slate sleet]

maulers and crushers get owned by onslaught but i dont run it i just melee them

[frank basin]

Or krak nade them

[sleek garden]

lately ive been using the chainaxe with takes care of them pretty well

[bleak tangle]

It could, but it wasted so many ammo before Onslaught start to kick in, if I could, I'd ping and let other handle it/melee

[slate sleet]

both the salvo blessings are insanely good

you need to learn to how to burst fire tho

[sleek garden]

i do burst fire

[slate sleet]

instead of holding down mouse 1

[frank basin]

You saying full auto is brainless shooting?

[sleek garden]

thats how i do it

yeah

im not gonna mag dump a monstrosity either, the headshot multiplier on them is super high

pick shots and all that

[frank basin]

Well headhunter tho

They are burst firing

[slate sleet]

fulll auto is fine

[sleek garden]

yes but unfortunately if you fire too fast it doesnt count as a new salvo doesnt it

full auto is fun to blast a horde but if im trying to shoot with any amount of precision the recoil is too much by the fifth shot

[slate sleet]

it has basically no delay

[lilac eagle]

The only difference between full auto and semi is your ability to manage recoil

[slate sleet]

as long as you stop firing for like half a second it will reset

im sure its even lower i did not time it

its ideal for killing a special with a burst and swaping to something else

allows you to delete mutants in record time

[sleek garden]

if i was better at recoil id be using the gewehr 43 in battlefield v all the time

[slate sleet]

the blessing is custom made to maintain your accuracy due to how to recoil on the IAG's works

[frank basin]

I’m a big shooter

I shoot braced auto Graia

[sleek garden]

okay from a normal engagement range a third/fourth headshot does over 700 damage to a scab gunner

[tall torrent]

Mk1 is really good at manual burst firing to kill most human sized targets in a few shots

The other 2 IAGs are more magdump full auto focused

[sleek garden]

okay this time i got 618 but i moved a little closer

[frank basin]

Agripinna IAG?

[tall torrent]

Agripinaa mk1 yea

[frank basin]

Ah

[unreal bone]

Damn bro I really need to get that scoreboard addon..

[frank basin]

Are you on console?

[unreal bone]

no

[frank basin]

You can download it

[unreal bone]

I know.

[sleek garden]

everyone in game who brings up the scoreboard is insufferable

i dont think you should use it

[unreal bone]

Well I don't bring it up.

But I wanna see the stats.

[frank basin]

I know he want see his own stats

[unreal bone]

Well I'm mostly curious about my own stats cause this build I was just using

it felt like easy mode

[tall torrent]

They should just have a DRG level simplistic “score” system at the end of a mission like
How many special/elites did u kill
How many resources did u collect

[inland orchid]

DID I HEAR A ROCK N STONE?!

[unreal bone]

I almost went through an entire auric damnation on hi-intensity engagement without a single point of hp damage..

[frank basin]

Or you being carried

[unreal bone]

And all I did was just play shout veteran with a revolver and combat axe.

I missed 1 dodge against a dog at the end otherwise it would've been a flawless run oomfie.

[inland orchid]

Overtoughness goes hard what can we say

[frank basin]

Flawless trial of Osiris

[inland orchid]

Ain’t that like, PvP in destiny?

[frank basin]

“TOO ME, WE HAVE FRAGGING TO KILL”

[frank basin]

Yes

[unreal bone]

fr having over 300 toughness on veteran kinda brazy.

[inland orchid]

Oh my old friend used to go crazy in there, used the lament on broskis

Was a monsterious titan

[sleek garden]

i got bad habits from basically only playing veteran for a while

[unreal bone]

I almost flawlessed that auric damnation hi-intensity while constantly leading the charge and my teammates were like fighting for their lives dying. 🤣

[sleek garden]

i got used to lots of toughness damage reduction nodes

[frank basin]

Close order and iron will huh

[sleek garden]

i would stand in the open tanking damage from an army of shooters and as long as i could click heads it was okay

[tall torrent]

Going from veteran to Psyker is a big difference in terms of “how squishy u are”

[sleek garden]

well i tried to play zealot and losing toughness in a half second to two troopers was a shock

[unreal bone]

Yeah I only ran 2 toughness curious and 1 woud cause I was like

[sharp ember]

yeah me playing zealot once in a blue moon and getting hit once by a bruiser

[sleek garden]

i have to run for cover a lot

[vivid current]

yea, you go down in 2 hits as Syker.

[unreal bone]

surely it's not that beefy

it is

that beefy

[sleek garden]

i used to play psyker a lot

i rotate my favorite class

first few months of darktide

[vivid current]

Kinetic shield and supression-maxxing all the way.

[sleek garden]

all psyker

then it was ogryn

then zealot

then vet

[tall torrent]

Zealot with crit build can have a lot of TDR but it’s more conditional than veteran

[vivid current]

also, I learned pox hounds blessed by nurgle wont stagger.

[tall torrent]

Veteran just needs coherency and >75% toughness

[vivid current]

its horrifying.

[sleek garden]

lol before one of the recent updates a nurgle blessed mutie wouldnt stop pounding you

[tall torrent]

Nurgle bless makes them more stagger resistant on top of having more health

[sleek garden]

it was horrible

[vivid current]

Honestly, some people in this discord need some of that.

[frank basin]

Maelstrom is true end game?

Highest pain difficulty

[sleek garden]

gotta be careful in there

i get desynced a lot from it

[frank basin]

Oof

[delicate estuary]

Wrong

[sleek garden]

me and some other guy got disconnected earlier and it cost us the game

[vivid current]

I just finished a Aluric Malestrom on quickplay, desynced and I thought my whole team was gonna wipe

ended up joining back in time.

[delicate estuary]

True end game is hunting for best drip paired with voice lines

[vivid current]

True end game is feeling and looking like Ripley.

[sleek garden]

highest pain difficulty is making a new character and fighting on malice difficulty at level 8 and you realize malice players are just normal people trying to have fun and they dont know some basic stuff still

[vivid current]

looks-maxxing

[sleek garden]

i try not to think about it too hard because at that level its just good fun

[frank basin]

I used to play malice as low level

A lot

Damnation is place I get plasteel

[sleek garden]

try and make a new character and two maulers at a low level is actually a mini boss fight

[frank basin]

Twin kranak at home

[vivid current]

Started playing malice and got absolutely stomped and sweated most games so I can learn the game.

Ended playing Malstrom Auric and play it on quickplay with total randos clearing like absolute giga chads.

[sleek garden]

i had a game on my low level veteran a few days ago where just one mauler in the horde set my whole team on alert and we all whaled on him for a good 5-6 seconds

those guys are no joke on low levels

[frank basin]

You whaled what?

Whaled?

[sleek garden]

you've never heard that term before?

[frank basin]

No

Whale?

[sleek garden]

we ganged up and beat the teeth out of his jaws

[frank basin]

Oh

[sleek garden]

does that make more sense

[vivid current]

you never heard of get whaled on, but I bet you know what boof means

[sleek garden]

im jesting

[frank basin]

Oooh you beat mauler I thought you say something bad to low level.

[sleek garden]

no no

it means you're going all out i guess

ive never had to explain it before

[frank basin]

I know you and all your team focus on mauler

[sleek garden]

we were all just hitting him as hard as we could because maulers have really high health and we all had low tier weapons that do like 40 damage a hit

maulers have fun lines

[frank basin]

This?

[sleek garden]

the flame take you....

[frank basin]

Accept the joints

[sleek garden]

is whaling on something an old person term now

[frank basin]

I heard once someone use word “hence”

That word i don’t get much

[rough cobalt]

What to change in this plasma gun for better?(i figured sprint for sure but for what?)

[inland orchid]

maybe the sprint perk for a damaging perk instead

whichever armor type doesnt die in 1 hit to it

[frank basin]

Carapace like

[rough cobalt]

and any better blessings or are they good?

[inland orchid]

blessings seem fine, got the power one and funny brittle for whatever's still standing after u shoot them once

[rough cobalt]

Maybe with this I'll be able to finish twins on damnation(gonna try out later today)

[sleek garden]

lol why do the heavy attacks on the chainaxe have so much force applied to ragdolls

you send people rocketing backwards

[frank basin]

Hmmmff

[sleek garden]

like im in the psykhanium hitting people and they're cartwheeling backwards like i hit them with an ogryn heavy stab

not even following the momentum of the axe they're just rocketing away

or they are following it and they hit the ground so hard they slide a few feet

[frank basin]

It is like cutted in half and rocket 5m in air with blood dripping?

[sleek garden]

no

[jovial aurora]

Honestly the auric people are goated

[sleek garden]

awesome i didnt think i was allowed to upload video

[frank basin]

It hit hard enough like

https://tenor.com/view/dodgers-win-baseball-mlb-world-gif-18996574

[sleek garden]

this also happens when i shoot them with the lasgun

[frank basin]

shoot them with Lasgun
show chainsword

[sleek garden]

what happens in the video can also happen with the lasgun

where their head glitches out

[frank basin]

Try record that with Lasgun

[sleek garden]

i already shut off the game

[delicate estuary]

It's nurgle exiting their cerebral cortex

[torpid sundial]

I think I spent over 6k plasteel at this point trying to find surgical 4

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/512688851320569906.webp?size=48&name=aquaSmug&quality=lossless

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-boys-kisser-mega-kot-brick-gif-11900063593491011307

[vernal harbor]

i love spamming my grenades on my grenadier class so much

but its just not the same as seeing an ogryn spam his cluster one

[torpid sundial]

same

[vernal harbor]

its like watching a kid smash two action figures together making explosion sounds

[torpid sundial]

There's a bit of joy whenever I see two grenades pop out of my hands

when throwing a grenade

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-washington-my-man-look-tipsy-gif-16450563

lookin at the other vet who brought krak and didnt pick the twin grenade talent

i once threw 3/4 twins in a row

3 twins

[wise fossil]

How does this work with Shotguns and revolvers?

[vernal harbor]

take the magazine and 10% of that

revolver at max maybe 1

[wise fossil]

for even one shell loaded?

[vernal harbor]

mmm

is it 1/1 for the shell

like does it make the ammo counter revert to a single shot or does it just add a round

because if its already this confusing im sure fatshark already fucked it up in the calculations

but you could also just pick the one talent that drains stamina

that would be much better for both those weapons

[wise fossil]

Yeah Deadshot good

I'm just curious about this since the interaction is weird

[vernal harbor]

before the trators curse i was running talents that didnt even work the whole time

until someone told me lol

hadnt worked for months

also to the veteran who said the kantrael shotgun was a good choice may the omnissiah turn your skull into a toliet lever this gun is sewage shit

[wise fossil]

it's really about the cleave with the kantrael

plus the fire pierces bulwark shields which is nice

[tranquil bronze]

MFW

[chrome pasture]

idk why, but I don't know what to say with this uniform

would've preferred the OG guardsman kit

[ionic hull]

thoughts? i dont have PC 4 only 3

[chrome pasture]

idk about power swords

[umbral scaffold]

Same

[umbral scaffold]

I'm biased for the p6
But the left one is probably better atm if you don't have power cycler 4

Brutal momentum and slaughterer are both good perks to have in general, and if you don't have power cycler 4, this is a good holdover imo

You lose the extra slashes from power cycler, but you'll clear hordes properly while needing to charge up less because BM and slaughterer will enable you to cleave through stuff

[ionic hull]

the 6 has been with me for awhile so im a bit hesitent to get rid of it lmao but that Slaughterer and BM are really calling me

[umbral scaffold]

Same

P6 is just too good for dealing with crushers/maulers with the push attack

[ionic hull]

yeeeee

[umbral scaffold]

But honestly I think both are fine
I just find that pcycler 3 is a bit too weak sauce

[ionic hull]

PC 3 is kinda hold over till i get 4 since i really enjoy the powered slashes

[umbral scaffold]

It's good for sure

[ionic hull]

gotten into the rythem of actvating slashing back dash while repowering up and then doing it again

[umbral scaffold]

Then right sword it is

Imo play with what feels most comfortable with you

And honestly I'm also biased because p6 moveset is just smother a lot of the time

[iron marten]

And the activation to swing is fast when you block cancel

[severe pecan]

Tf is that skin on the MK VI is it a mod

[iron marten]

Ye, weapon_customization

[ionic hull]

Woops forgot yo clean it off my bad yea its a mod

[severe pecan]

Yeah no probs I’m just sat here with this basic af one. Only on Xbox it’s shit.

[austere jolt]

Damn, Melk, chill out bro.

[thick rose]

what do I do with this?

[feral stirrup]

I have no idea. Best take a gun that has similar stats and a flex perk and test it out

[austere jolt]

On his note, what can I do with this?

[severe pecan]

That looks good as is imo

[austere jolt]

Perkwise?

[severe pecan]

Ye

When I used it I ran both the same great horde clearer

Not a lot of special damage tho

But that’s just the sword

[austere jolt]

It's for my marksman vet, so specials are all covered.

Just trying to figure out how to squeeze the bits out of this sword.

[feral stirrup]

@jovial aurora rule is +critical and +weakspot only increase the additional portion so if you cannot test you should bring put the damage table and calculate the following:

• regular damage - weakspot damage
• weakspot damage - critical weakspot damage

If the first is larger take weakspot, if second is larger take crit

[austere jolt]

I like the blessings, but wasn't sure what perks would really fit the bill. I think I might replace Unarmoured with Maniac, though, since I'm pretty sure Rager parry will benefit from that.

Or maybe just leave it unarmoured to deal with the reg hordes. I don't know 😩

[severe pecan]

The cleave stacks is really good and with the extra same you’ll clear really well.

Personally I’d get something for armour

Since you’ve got good blessings

[austere jolt]

Flak, for sure, but not sure what to pair it with.

[strange sparrow]

Personally, Fuck the Wrath

Change to Shred and do 1L1H

Reason behind why Wrath is bad is, missing hit = losing stack

so you would loss all your stack when you fail

[austere jolt]

Just don't miss 4head

[severe pecan]

Well one armour one unarmoured maybe get the best of both worlds with ragers

[austere jolt]

Honestly, I only ever break out the sword when a horde is in my face.

So missing isn't really an option.

[strange sparrow]

Sweeping Savage do the job better As you also have Rampage of DC 4

I also have Wrath on my DC 4 but man it just not that great when you have another zealot clearing with you

meaning you would miss a hit = no more cleave

[rancid ginkgo]

Devil claw + plasma 🥰

[severe pecan]

Tbh I’m a big fan of the MK VI Psword, yeah it’s a pain in the ass charging but if you get power cycler IV on it it’s a great all rounder. And there’s block cancelling for the charge and you can get good at dodging back before attacking you’re golden.

[vernal harbor]

The only thing bad about the power sword is that nothing actually beats it

Once you got a good one, play style be damned, anything else will always be less than it

I run other stuff for fun but i just wish there were multiple things that could compete to what it overwhelmingly brings

[wanton dawn]

Mk1 hellbore does

[vernal harbor]

In a dream maybe

[wanton dawn]

Except carapace ofc. Which is why you still bring ps

[vernal harbor]

Kriegsman dream

Power sword will out match any horde, rager swarm, crusher swarm even bulwark swarm

Insane how it’s just all in one

It gets very boring but

[wanton dawn]

Bayo is actually slighlty better if there is no carapace

[untold mulch]

Got the rare

all guardsman party, + everyone competent

[bitter turtle]

bayo def wins on non carapace

[untold mulch]

Bayonet hits hard

Just me or emperor gift gave me a salvable plasma gun?

(unyielding and weakspot) (glory hgunter and blaze away)

[regal belfry]

which blessings do you recommend on powet sword and plasma rifle

[low yacht]

I mean Tempestus uses power swords and they probably use even better power swords.

[sharp ember]

oh yeah that’ll cook

[untold mulch]

Much better than my rolled one

AN actual good emperor gift

damn

So change weak spot hit and glory hunter

[bitter turtle]

as good as psword is

i dont think most of the itme you can mindlessly charge into a pack of 10 ragers mashing special action brainlessly and come out on top

[regal belfry]

psword is bad in dodging

[low yacht]

Not when you have good finesse

Finesse is a great stat for that.

[visual remnant]

u have rabiez i think

[regal belfry]

finesse is attack speed, crit damage and weakspot

[sharp ember]

-1 dodge only becomes an issue if you’re being overrun really hard

so like chaos captains and maybe chaos spawns

or 30 million ragers (2 shredder nades win)

[low yacht]

There is a mobility stat too.

So if you get decent mobility it is crazy.

Stats aren't just flashy numbers so make sure you get a good mobility roll if you are going to even use it.

[bitter turtle]

mobility is generall the dump stat

and no matter how high you roll mobility its still not going to be a mobile weapon compared to other melee tbh

at the very least if we compare to bayo there is no contest agains ta weapon that has the knife charging run speed gimmick

[low yacht]

You really underestimate mobility sometimes. While it might not be as mobile as other weapons that stat makes it more viable.

[bitter turtle]

i have an 80 mobility psword

lol

its still just objectively not as mobile as a weapon like a shovel, nevermind bayo

if u think im just making shit up btw

https://i.gyazo.com/0aa91043064476ca06dd47926da7bcdc.png

[austere jolt]

Holy shit, man. My entire team went down in Carnival in the room with the eight breakable tanks. I had to solo my way through, break the tanks, get topside, and rescue all three of them. As a squishy marksman sniper. My heart has never beat so fast.

[untold mulch]

👏

[polar kayak]

finally got lv3 dumdum, not quite lv4... at least i can sleep better now x.x

[balmy flume]

so did I miss anything significant since the twins bossfight is released?
Been binging on a mix of Rogue Trader/Warframe instead lately

[untold mulch]

Nah Fatshark fucked off in their vacations and only thing has been some Zola journals

Which are insetting done before-concurrently the fight, which is weird

[balmy flume]

well at least I can get more context before I try again, thx

(Only tried 3 times when it released, all failed lol)

[severe pecan]

If you have the perk tree where you go invisible you can

Stealth vet melee build is power

[scarlet smelt]

I upgraded it

[dire olive]

Holy dump stat

[delicate estuary]

Ah yes

[delicate estuary]

😎

[torpid sundial]

how many thousands more plasteel do I need

to get surgical

[junior needle]

I went through over 30k plasteel pre-crafting patch trying to get infernus 4

You may have a ways to go. Surgical isn't a "forbidden" blessing as far as I know though.

(I also did not get infernus 4 pre-crafting patch despite my efforts)

[polar kayak]

pain

[wispy hinge]

I've been stuck with the accursed infernus 3 for a while too. Its actual agony

I got lucky with power cycler 4 though

[junior needle]

If it makes you feel better, it's a bad-mediocre at best blessing even in the best usage case.

[wispy hinge]

Not wrong, im running recon 2 and I just slap it on for extra stacks

[junior needle]

Oh no

[delicate estuary]

He said the thing

[junior needle]

The worst one

[wispy hinge]

ITS FUNNY

[delicate estuary]

Yes I agree

[wispy hinge]

It spits our many lasers

[junior needle]

Just use the 6d if you must use a recon

They're all bad but the 2 is by far the worst dps

[wispy hinge]

Its definitely still slow even with rending ability and consecutive strikes and the ping ability

You really need to squeeze as much damage in just to make it decent

[untold mulch]

oh lord a VIIa user in a T5 maelstrom

Emperor protect me

[junior needle]

Second worst dps

[sharp ember]

he’ll do really well against dog waves and nothing else

[vernal harbor]

eventually it’ll kill

[gusty sonnet]

isnt the difference between dumdum3-4 like 5.5 to 6 anyway?

[junior needle]

Here you go, a baseline dps performance comparison with rending talents added.

[vernal harbor]

now you’ve done it

[wispy hinge]

Bigger number on gun tho

[wispy hinge]

I knew the fastest one would be funniest

I'm grabbing one the second I start the game up again

[junior needle]

It's not that good comparatively to other gun lines but it's the best performance you'll get out of the recons, especially with other factors at play like HH

They all need substantial improvements

[wispy hinge]

I know Columbus and agripina out dps it but funny brr laser gun is too good to pass up

Its the closest to a hot shot laz gun I'll get for now 😔

[delicate estuary]

@junior needle just doesn't want you to have fun

[junior needle]

Just use the pewpew mod to change the visuals/sounds to lasers

You'll thank me later

[wispy hinge]

Lmao

[delicate estuary]

No

I will use recons

And you can't stop me

[wispy hinge]

At least until they finally release hot shots or volley guns

Then ill swap to those

[junior needle]

Self harm is not the answer

[delicate estuary]

Look you can show videos of hitting body shots and claim validity. I will be chilling with headshots instead . Not saying they are good but shooting heads compensates a bit

[wispy hinge]

It definitely helps that's for sure.

I shouldn't mention I'm considering a recon for a psyker gun build

[junior needle]

I also post headshot videos. They have very poor finesse modifiers.

[delicate estuary]

I melee mutants

[junior needle]

That's nice and all, but that doesn't change the maniac dps the guns do

[delicate estuary]

That's also nice but the maniac DPS is irrelevant for that

I will pop exe stance

[bitter turtle]

even if you assume you never shoot mutants

the bad maniac dmg really is noticeable vs flamers

imo

[delicate estuary]

Nades teammates

[bitter turtle]

i guess its not quite as bad now that a single poof of fire deletes your toughness

but

[delicate estuary]

There is like other elements

[bitter turtle]

before you could definitely not down them before they started pooping fire at you

[junior needle]

maniac DPS is irrelevant for that
Maniac dps is irrelevant for the dps it does to maniacs

[delicate estuary]

You act as if you are playing solo

I personally haven't had issues with it

[junior needle]

"Using bad weapons is perfectly justifiable if my teammates compensate by picking up my slack"

[delicate estuary]

I run it with exe stance and right keystone and just mag dump targets that really matter and melee the rest

[gusty crane]

Nice to see other recon users around.

It's a great weapon.

[junior needle]

Well, you can technically get some more dps with the fire rate increase, even if it doesn't do anything for ammo efficiency

[delicate estuary]

And targets that matter are trappers bombers and flamers

And those 3 have small hp pools for the maniac DPS to matter

[junior needle]

I mean, it does matter if you have 1/4 the ttk

Especially on rager packs

[delicate estuary]

Who said I shoot ranger packs

Rager

I melee them instead

[junior needle]

That's nice

[bitter turtle]

idk it kinda does matter for flamers

like i said

its hard to stop them from getting some fire out even if ur on point

[junior needle]

But outside of your subjective personal view, they are objectively dumpster tier

[polar kayak]

what’s a recommended curio set for damnation?

i run 20% hp, 1 wound, 16% toughness mostly all sniper res, stamina and ability regen

[bitter turtle]

maybe not as bad anymore since it doesnt delete toughness like i said but

[delicate estuary]

Some fire is the usual outcome

[bitter turtle]

idk i can usually stop them from any fire with iag

[wispy hinge]

I wouldn't say it's great but God damn is it amazing to turn off your brain and blast lasers down a hall for 10 seconds straight

[delicate estuary]

I am not saying it's great either but saying it's unusable is not entirely true

[junior needle]

They have really bad dps and ammo efficiency by comparison to other guns. The only upside is that they feel nice to use, until you realize how slow you kill things by comparison.

[delicate estuary]

It needs buffs yes

[untold mulch]

DEAR LORD THIS TEAM IS SO SHIT

[torpid sundial]

two toughness one hp is my go-to for most cases

wound is useless because if you're getting downed more than twice between med stations then you aren't doing much in the first place

[wispy hinge]

I like 1 wound and 2 toughness just to be safe

[junior needle]

Unusable is a bit of a loaded term, much like "viable". You can technically kill things with any weapon in the game, it doesn't mean that some aren't just much better than others

[polar kayak]

oh, i will try without wound next time, thanks

i get downed a lot tho xD

[junior needle]

For something to be truly "unusuable" it'd have to do zero damage, otherwise anyone can go "well you can still push things with it and kill them eventually" and they'd be technically correct because it's not literally useless.

[torpid sundial]

Thats something you have to work on yourself, not rely on wounds

Like, pushing, blocking, positioning and awareness

[bitter turtle]

bolter shove only run viable

[gusty crane]

Granted I use it on my psyker, not my vet, but it should work even better. Or so the echo chamber tell me in there. It deletes anything big or groups of nasty. Have not found a better weapon for my build yet.

[delicate estuary]

It's good huh

[bitter turtle]

i edited to clarify

lul

[torpid sundial]

also Ive been trying lazpistol melee vet. very fun

[delicate estuary]

Ah

[wispy hinge]

I wish bolter had more ammo, its so painful to use sometimes

[delicate estuary]

Bolter is ammo neutral

[wispy hinge]

95 rounds is not enough for my gremlin tendencies

[junior needle]

Gun psyker actually outputs more dps than ranged vet does currently. Most automatic weapons have substantially better dps. A gray ciag has way better dps.

[delicate estuary]

[junior needle]

Just use the ciag.

It's meta on gunpsyker for a reason

[delicate estuary]

No

[junior needle]

Not you

Get out of here

SCRAM

[delicate estuary]

No 😊

[wispy hinge]

Everyone uses the columnus

[gusty crane]

I don't much care what other people use. I use what works best.

[junior needle]

Everyone is using columnus because it works best

[gusty crane]

And like I said, I have not found a more effective weapon.

[wispy hinge]

It can't brainlesslly fire for 10 seconds straight though

[junior needle]

I don't think you looked too hard

[delicate estuary]

Mimimimi colomnus this colomnus that

Just waiting for it's nerf along with VOC

90% of vets gonna mald

[junior needle]

Unsheathes 3.6k gray maniac dps

Nothin personnel

[torpid sundial]

should I change unarmored to maniac or carapace 🤔

[gusty crane]

No three round burst fire is the way to go. Kills most things.

[wispy hinge]

I like maniac more tbh

[torpid sundial]

mmm

[delicate estuary]

Good for you now do your job and kill them while I gather mats

[fresh grail]

maniac is great, just for the times you get ran over by 5 mutants

which is all the time

[wispy hinge]

Chainsword just doesn't do much to carapace in the first place, you have better methods to deal with them

[junior needle]

For the record, I don't even use the ciag or play vet currently

It's just funny how overtuned it's been allowed to be for so long now

[torpid sundial]

yeah I'm using it with laz pistol or helbore

[fresh grail]

I'm sure the columnus infantry enjoyers know it'll get brought in line more with the other guns eventually

[torpid sundial]

also god the chainsword is so good at waveclear its amazin

everything in front of me just gets cut into half

[gusty crane]

Mutants rarely wipe runs. Apart from tossing people off ledges here and there. It's the snipers, maulers and trappers which blow stuff up.

[junior needle]

Keyword eventually

[wispy hinge]

I used to only use the chainsword but I've been trying the power sword out lately.

Its very funny

[torpid sundial]

its the mutants that throw you into pox bursters and fire

[fresh grail]

True, but thats true for any single enemy. It's the combination of them all that get you

[torpid sundial]

they do wipe runs if you leave them alone along with the other specials and elites

multiple people being grabbed by mutants = no dps being dealt

[junior needle]

Ciag has the highest dps of any automatic, so any given target is gonna get turned into paste

[delicate estuary]

Just melee them

[wispy hinge]

Shotguns are so not great right now and I want to use one 😔

[delicate estuary]

🤮

[torpid sundial]

You use shotguns with melee vet

[delicate estuary]

I wish they had ammo mode swap mechanics

[fresh grail]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-gun-thats-a-shame-rifle-reload-gif-16005192

[delicate estuary]

Let me use a bolt action called a shotgun

[torpid sundial]

🤔

I know vets dont usually use the fan revolver

[fresh grail]

brick it

[torpid sundial]

but 🤔

[gusty crane]

Doesn't mean it's the best weapon. Quite a lot of other variables. Which is why this game is great. 😉

[delicate estuary]

I use it

[fresh grail]

i use it sometimes with a deadshot build, it works

[delicate estuary]

Exe stance with right keystone

For fanning

[torpid sundial]

why exe stance

[wispy hinge]

I will always fan the hammer, I just wish I could use one in each hand for the ocelot larp

[delicate estuary]

Cause you need to aim sometimes plus I refuse to run VOC

[fresh grail]

Become a cowboy revolver main, make our brave soldier proud 💪

[junior needle]

It's one of the best weapons. Plasma or revolver probably take the title for absolute best though. Balance has not exactly been a strongsuit of the game however. Many were left in the dumpster for nearly a year before patch 14.

Back when it was shredder/bolter on every class.

[wispy hinge]

Please don't nerf plasma, I need happiness in my life

[fresh grail]

At least the amount of guns that can be used is the highest its ever been, or the game's been the easiest but it comes down to the same

[delicate estuary]

Nerf everything

Only water pistols allowed

[torpid sundial]

already bricked

[wispy hinge]

Awh fuck yeah its awful

[delicate estuary]

See if purple gives useful perk

[junior needle]

This is true, it's much better now (mostly). After they basically ignored weapon balancing for an entire year.

[wispy hinge]

Thanks mommy hadron

[junior needle]

Still some loose ends that need work

[fresh grail]

upgrade it, i'd keep it personally

reload speed is not a bad park

[untold mulch]

Homie did somewhat good damage (2nd ranking) (because the other 2 were useless)

but

you know

All the ammo vacuumed

And holy shit

I get the Bolter now

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-frank-oh-my-god-i-get-it-gif-22328165

[junior needle]

Was he shooting into the melee chaffe?

[fresh grail]

I had the same feel, after seeing everyone badmouth it so much

[untold mulch]

YOU BET YOUR RATIONS HE WAS

[delicate estuary]

Chad

[wispy hinge]

Bolter is great, I just like to spam it too much. Makes sense to be more conservative though

[junior needle]

Of course

[zealous wyvern]

i like shooting melee chaff

but only if it means i dont vacuum all ammo

[delicate estuary]

Just use ciag guys

[wispy hinge]

Shooting melee chaff with a recon is one of the greatest feelings in the world

[untold mulch]

They left me to die more than once lmao

[wispy hinge]

Hearing the crunching makes my brain tingle

[fresh grail]

I feel ya. Thats my issue too, but thats not the gun's fault. Hence i stick with the BRautos usually.
If i want to go a sniper playstyle i'm pulling out that bolter though 💪

[zealous wyvern]

bad

[junior needle]

Almost as good as throwing car batteries into the ocean

[untold mulch]

With the bolter I only do at the end when everyone throws ammo box

or when situation is FUBAR

[delicate estuary]

Nothing wrong with throwing batteries

[wispy hinge]

The fish can do good work with that acid

[delicate estuary]

Exactly

[zealous wyvern]

my favourite crowd shooting weapon for sensation would be the standard lasgun

[strange sparrow]

I love my plastic straw

[delicate estuary]

No

[zealous wyvern]

because it does just enough to see progress but not enough to stop them

[strange sparrow]

All my homies hate Paper straw

[zealous wyvern]

so you feel like a guardsman

[wispy hinge]

I've never been a fan of the standard lasguns personally, too slow for my tastes

[strange sparrow]

On their way to disintegrate in your drink

[zealous wyvern]

helbore is fun too

[untold mulch]

Yeah, homie was wasting 1% of his entire ammo each burst

For doing less work than me already in melee spammng m1 with Csword

[zealous wyvern]

uncharged helbore unload into horde charging you

[untold mulch]

It was so funny doing battery objective

and seeing his ammo counter go down a considerable % each burst noise I heard on the distance

[delicate estuary]

I mag dump everything on my gunlugger ogryn and vacuum all ammo cause stinky punies don't deserve it

[untold mulch]

I am waiting for Multilas (hopefully) to make a gunlugger

[junior needle]

Just use the pewpewmod with an achlys stubber

Basically a multilas

[delicate estuary]

No

Mods are heretical

[junior needle]

Not you

[delicate estuary]

The god emperor has designed this game

For us

[untold mulch]

🤔

Never thouhgt

of trying

brb

[wispy hinge]

I only like the quality of life mods

Emporer preserve the melk mods

[delicate estuary]

Like show hacking pattern

[untold mulch]

Las effect on all weapons IS quality of life though

[wispy hinge]

Lmao

[junior needle]

Obesefish has poorly executed the Emperors will and should be tried for incompetence and waste of the Emperors resources

[delicate estuary]

Inquisitor would like to have a chat with you

[untold mulch]

fr fr

[delicate estuary]

Spreading fake news

[untold mulch]

Okay added suppresion immunity to my bolter build

[wispy hinge]

Its really hard to hit stuff without it

[untold mulch]

because I noticed it was a pain in the ass to try to hit anything that fired back

[untold mulch]

I am so used to all full auto weapons

that I ignored it when I made this build

[delicate estuary]

Wish I could replace ogryn shield with anime body pillow

[pastel geode]

But what if the mg4 infantry lasgun had an auto switch?

[untold mulch]

[fresh grail]

i run survivalist aura to keep bigman stocked up with bullets
(so that i can vacuum all the ammo for my bolter )

[delicate estuary]

Can't outrun big man with triple sprint efficiency

[untold mulch]

Honestly MG4 needs to either have innate pseudo full auto

or be burst fire

Be single shot with that ROF is stupid

[wispy hinge]

That's fair, you usually just aim in their general direction with full auto builds and it'll kill everything

[delicate estuary]

And triple +3 stam curios

[untold mulch]

Exactly

[delicate estuary]

Fastest ogryn in the west

[pastel geode]

That sounds so cursed

[fresh grail]

sounds hilarious

[delicate estuary]

Stinky punies don't deserve ammo

[pastel geode]

Do you outrun zealots with that lol

[junior needle]

Mods are heretical
Wish I could replace ogryn shield with anime body pillow
Same.

[delicate estuary]

Shh we threaten commissar that he becomes corpse starch then we good

[untold mulch]

I need to do some touches

but

Is a very shitty stubber from level 10

[pastel geode]

This makes me wish for hellgun even more

[untold mulch]

Real

But I can work wiuth this

Forgive me Vet chat

I must learn to vacuum all ammo

[pastel geode]

No, share or die.

https://tenor.com/view/revolver-gif-21834574

[fresh grail]

vets who complain about ammo and dont run survivalist aura deserve the flak 😤
and the ones that don't complain are usually gigachads in melee anyhow

[junior needle]

Told you

You can also adjust the sounds

[delicate estuary]

Make it shoot fart reverbs

[tiny summit]

Or helbore users. Vet issued psyker staff

[untold mulch]

I run survivalist, and I am one of the first into the NOT ONE STEP BACK

Make full gun build

jump into melee

[fresh grail]

its just busted in general, your gungryns and gundalfs will love you for running it even if you dont shoot any yoursefl

[untold mulch]

honorable death

[pastel geode]

I run the damage buff

[untold mulch]

Its with the Recon II sound

[tiny summit]

Need it to shoot to the tune of caramelldansen

[pastel geode]

What if you set it to use laspistol sounds?

[junior needle]

I haven't bothered with that thing in so long I didn't recognize it

[untold mulch]

Cant

The mod only allows mixing sound

with semiauto-semiauto

[pastel geode]

I keep a high roll on in storage on the off chance it become useful

[untold mulch]

fullauto-fullauto

[pastel geode]

Ah, fair enough

Mk7 recon then

[untold mulch]

OH MUCH BETTER

[fresh grail]

getting prepared for when they add the laser machine guns in game, or whatever they call them in lore

soon™️

[wispy hinge]

Volleyguns

[fresh grail]

[wispy hinge]

I need them so badly

[untold mulch]

also changed las visual for a chonkier one

[pastel geode]

That’s a spicy meatball

[untold mulch]

Ogryn needs a multilas so much

[fresh grail]

thats a lot of titans

[zealous wyvern]

hellgun hotshot volleygun

[wispy hinge]

That animation is so cursed

[zealous wyvern]

it goes by many names

and we need them all

and when we do get them i want my grenadier krieg outfit

[untold mulch]

Copy pasting from a comment I saw

What if i want to pay a 3 minute video of a Titan seducing me?

[zealous wyvern]

along with proper kasrkin

and scions

[celest vine]

What are ork boyz supposed to do against a 100 wound titan?

[untold mulch]

We need it

[pastel geode]

I need me those dawn of war kasrkin/stormtroopers

[wispy hinge]

It is damn criminal that they have a scion helmet In the game without the armor and the helmet isn't even painted the right colors

[zealous wyvern]

im upping you on that too

they will release a scion bundle soon in blue

so whoever bought the green helmet just lost money

i am betting on it

not confirmed at all but my bet

[untold mulch]

By the way I didn't test one thing

[zealous wyvern]

they only released it in green for the cadia bundle

[untold mulch]

DAKKA

DAKKKAAAAAAAAAAA

[zealous wyvern]

which makes no sense because it looks weird together

[frank ether]

whenever I open this topic I anger iLas players but there needs to be a lasgun to fill a sort of smg niche sort of like ciag.

MG4 looks like a baby lasgun but its configured like a long range marksman weapon

[zealous wyvern]

you mean like

uh

like

um

uh

err

[untold mulch]

They will do that

or gonna sell each part separate to make you pay 1400 for each

[zealous wyvern]

the recon lasgun?

[frank ether]

I dont wanna talk about r*con today

also isnt recon like, super accurate

[untold mulch]

Recon feels like it should be taht

[zealous wyvern]

not really

[untold mulch]

If Fatshark had anhy balancing bone

[frank ether]

I mean it has zero recoil and a very tiny cone

[zealous wyvern]

yes

[wispy hinge]

Recon has like no recoil which is nice

[untold mulch]

If you fire long enough it has a weird spread

but no recoil

[wispy hinge]

Getting suppressed also gives you a weird spread too

[civic knot]

Im running infiltration with the agripiina shotgun and so im using ranged specialist (also running 3 krak nades). Which melee weapon should I use to maximise killing efficiency of mixed targets and ogryns?

[frank ether]

I want something effective up to like, 20-30 meters

[fresh grail]

Powersword if you want to be max efficiency

[pastel geode]

I don’t care if they do tempestus in blue cause the armor I’m not really crazy about

[fresh grail]

though might/probably will get a nerf eventually

[frank ether]

you know a burst fire lasgun would also be very interesting btw

[untold mulch]

I want the fucking gun

[frank ether]

like vraks counterpart but las

[untold mulch]

God, if they make the Hotshot burst fire

[junior needle]

The shots gradually wander while firing, most noticeably while hipfiring/suppressed.

[untold mulch]

I am actually gonna explode

[untold mulch]

Exactly

I know

[civic knot]

Ive heard people recommend not to run PS with weapon spec since the attack speed is redundant for PS apparently

[junior needle]

I'm posting it for the class

[frank ether]

what are marks for if its not gonna give us variety

[pastel geode]

I’d love this for a stormtrooper outfit though

[frank ether]

this has some HL1 HECU vibes

[wispy hinge]

I just wanna larp as the funny odst men 😔

[fresh grail]

I don't see how attack speed can ever be redundant, it's one of those stats you'd want to keep stacking in my opinion.
Lots of builds work though and experimenting with different stuff is fun.

[untold mulch]

Imo, that I feel is the best

Light Hotshot = Kasrkin full auto

Normal Hotshot = Ryza? Maybe burst?

Heavy hotshot = Lucius, single shot

[pastel geode]

It’s from dawn of war 2 but I see it lol

[frank ether]

yea I mean burst weapons are acquired taste but there are people who are into it

besides variety is cool

[untold mulch]

I very much hate them, but I see why people like it

[wispy hinge]

Variety is indeed cool, its why I want the shotguns to be pulled out of the shit pile

[untold mulch]

Only burst fire I accept PERSONALLY

Is like the Pulse Rifle of Dead Space

Single pull = Burst

Full pull= Full Auto

[pastel geode]

Headhunters do perform but I like me autofire

[wispy hinge]

Or gimme meltas instead, I'll take that over good shotguns

[untold mulch]

THAT I vibe

[pastel geode]

Yes we need meltas

[untold mulch]

I need to play DS remake

[pastel geode]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-spacehulk-deathwing-terminator-heavy-flamer-gif-26134742

[sharp ember]

if the hellguns didn’t come with power supply backpacks how bad would it hurt your guy’s souls

[dry knoll]

Deathwing was such missed potential 😦

[wispy hinge]

Man I wish that game were good

[pastel geode]

The have models without the backpack in lore

[untold mulch]

A lot

because without backpack lore wise they got few shots

So it would be dmr like

[untold mulch]

And we already have too many single shot in lasgun

That or is one of the êxpensive power packs, but imo I feel then it lacks the gimmick of Hellgun with the backpack

[pastel geode]

Best ai cover

[frank ether]

once you wrap your brain around it vraks 3 shoots like full auto anyways

but for lasguns I think they could experiment

[untold mulch]

Oh yep it does

But still

[halcyon jackal]

I would like this

[frank ether]

There is also the concept of hyperburst guns where you have a really high rof burst fire followed by a delay

[untold mulch]

G11 be like

[frank ether]

IRL examples are the russian AN-94 and that weird german space magic gun

[untold mulch]

Clockwork Gun

[halcyon jackal]

we love german space magic gun

[untold mulch]

those internals are so weird

[fresh grail]

just shoot two bullets before the recoil comes in

[untold mulch]

KRAUT SPACE MAGIC

[halcyon jackal]

give me my caseless 40k ammunition

[pastel geode]

The question I have atm is can the graia be made to shine alongside the other two iags and how

[untold mulch]

Aren't our autoguns caseless?

[frank ether]

AN-94 has a literal trolley inside of it

[halcyon jackal]

I don't think so but maybe

[frank ether]

I mean by the year 40.000 I'd expect humanity to figure out how to make hyperburst guns beyond prototypes

[fresh grail]

Are they? thought only the bolter was and the autoguns are just regular guns like whe have IRL

[untold mulch]

Originally Bolters in lore were caseless, but artist kept adding spent casings, because cool

🤣

[fresh grail]

so true, it do be cool

[sharp ember]

nyet, rifle is fine, soft-ish recoil while still high firerate to rack up dumdum

[untold mulch]

By 40k throwing rocks at people probably is old fashioned

[sharp ember]

even though lower dps overall

[untold mulch]

I still call my friend a savage when he picks bullet weapons

[fresh grail]

It is the 41st Millenium, there is only way. And there is still Space AK

[untold mulch]

Imagine being in the future and still throwing rocks at people

smh

[halcyon jackal]

ogryn momento

[untold mulch]

Ogryn throwing literal rocks

[fresh grail]

bunch of concrete with a bit of rebar sticking out never goes out of fashion 💪

[halcyon jackal]

imagine being in the future and still eating breakfast

[pastel geode]

Gotta remember though they’ve survived an ai rebellion, technological regression, and 10,000 years of medieval era tier suppression of science

[sharp ember]

easy as breakfast

[untold mulch]

DAOT humanity weapons is silly

Isn't the lasguns and all variants

the equivalent of like

farmer weapons?

The old man shotgun for when coyotes appear

[frank ether]

I love the space AKs, wish vet had better synergy with it though

[pastel geode]

Depends on the planet

[untold mulch]

Don't change what isn'tr broken I guess

[fresh grail]

it slaps a lot harder on zealot for sure, but the infinite ammo that Veteran gets with it makes up for it. It's different for sure

[untold mulch]

I meant in the DAOT sense

[frank ether]

yeah its just the lack of skill ceiling that saddens me

[untold mulch]

that originally Lasguns for all purposes are "civilian" weapons

[frank ether]

there isnt a lot to master with brautos

[fresh grail]

fair enough

[frank ether]

not for vet at least

[fresh grail]

its very much good to go out of the box even without blessings, which has its ups and downs

[frank ether]

yea

[pastel geode]

Probably honestly

[untold mulch]

Anyways, big sad that DT has no variable power settings for lasguns

I wish we could have done like shooting at troops at low-mid power, and mauler appears and go overcharge

[pastel geode]

Gun is power setting

[sharp ember]

wish using cover peeking gave a “stable brace” buff to weapons that improved recoil and accuracy, to have a better reason to use it

[fresh grail]

feels like thats what they were trying to do when they gave different (las)guns weird ammo consumption like some using 2 or 3 bullets at a time

[untold mulch]

REAL

[torpid sundial]

is it dead now

[untold mulch]

Its so much a scrapped mechanic

[fresh grail]

that does sound likely

[pastel geode]

Hadron strikes again

[frank ether]

I like that idea though I feel like DT as a game is just moving further away from cover mechanics each patch

[fresh grail]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-disappointed-disappointed-patrick-sad-patrick-walking-out-gif-15297122

[frank ether]

like the twins fight and the carvinal arena both had very little in the way of cover

[pastel geode]

I blame zealots

[frank ether]

and both very melee centric

[fresh grail]

that twins fight was so good, hope they keep that level of quality up

[sharp ember]

did they patch out staying in the entrance of the carnival arena yet

[untold mulch]

Man I so want a Guard centric game

[halcyon jackal]

I thought it did lmao

[frank ether]

Its kinda funny that your melee centric builds still have incredible ranged dps and ammo sustain

as long as you have a survival vet around its all good

[sharp ember]

fighting in the arena entrance is so boring but it’s the best thing to do

[frank ether]

yea the arena design isnt good

[untold mulch]

Staying in the middle with no psyker

is asking to die

I get their intention

but they fucked up

[frank ether]

they can learn lessons from it

[untold mulch]

then in the twin fight they repeat the design but just make no ranged to appear

except a sniper or so

[sharp ember]

day 1 before everyone figured out to stay in the entrance, we fought in the stands and that was rough but exciting

they just need to tune how hard it is getting attacked from every angle

or more fortification options

[halcyon jackal]

it is the first "special" boss battle we've had

[sharp ember]

did you know you can shut the arena gates to block spawn routes?

[halcyon jackal]

I found this out in the arena in the carnival

[pastel geode]

Is there any cheese known for the hard version of the twins fight?

[halcyon jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-i-am-fortiying-this-position-gif-14694626

[pastel geode]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-gif-18200364

[untold mulch]

Anyways, enjoyed bolter

I feel like gonna use it more than autoguns

Now with Vet all that remains is wait for Fatshark to give us Hellgun enjoyers a bone

[halcyon jackal]

i just want a good automatic lasgun

recon is nice but people keep telling me it sucks

so

[fresh grail]

i'm sure it'll get buffed

soon™️

[untold mulch]

It sucks, you can make VId work

but is the old

so much effort to bring it up to standard

with the same effrot making other alternatives flatout better

[pastel geode]

It “sucks” because everything overshadows it especially after it got nerfed into the ground after the one patch where it was spicy

[untold mulch]

I sitll say if they had bandaid fixed it with a silly amount of ammo

it could have been usable meanwhile

okay usable not good word, ehhh, people wouldn't be throwing you the

[halcyon jackal]

I could always just play gungryn

[untold mulch]

Rn I see a Recon in a match and I know mentally that either their damage contribution is gonna be sad, or they are gonna vacuum all ammo

[untold mulch]

Mhmm

[pastel geode]

What we really need to do is rebel against hadron

[halcyon jackal]

kill hadron

rip mechadendrite off

[pastel geode]

I’m tired of her bricking almost perfect rolls

[untold mulch]

Hadron is an agent of chaos

[halcyon jackal]

are you implying that she wants to

https://tenor.com/view/makepenisintorobot-tts-gif-22309103

[untold mulch]

"are you pleased varlet?" after she gives me +1,5 stamina (weapon active)

She definitely knows what she is doing

[halcyon jackal]

sadomasochist technoarcheologist

[pastel geode]

Also I swear brunt’s inventory is influenced by what difficulty you played last

[halcyon jackal]

stupid ogryn refuses to give me good weapons to buy

[pastel geode]

He only offers me 400+ blues after I run damnation

Emperor preserve us

Dataminers just discovered files for a 40k crossover event in call of duty

[untold mulch]

Say sike

[pastel geode]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-warhammer40k-rogal-rogal-dorn-dorn-gif-20946436

[untold mulch]

Viera

Say Sike or help me Emperor

[pastel geode]

https://www.ign.com/articles/call-of-duty-dataminers-discover-surprise-potential-warhammer-40000-crossover

[untold mulch]

DEAR LORD

[pastel geode]

I am at a loss for words

[untold mulch]

Harambe spirit can no longer contain this timeline

😔

Its spiraling out of control after 2016

[frank ether]

its only a matter of time before your favourite IP gets a COD/fortnite crossover

[pastel geode]

Harambe’s wrath grows more powerful by the day

[junior needle]

Or commonly both

[untold mulch]

What wrath?

Harambe was pure of heart 😔

[pastel geode]

And we killed him

[untold mulch]

We signed our fate that day

[untold mulch]

Yes

[pastel geode]

He is the 5th chaos god now

[untold mulch]

Welp, now what class to play

Because Veteran only bolter was enjoyable lately

[fresh grail]

i've been switching between bolter and braced guns

[pastel geode]

Gun psyker

[frank ether]

"With this character's death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore a saved game to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created."

[fresh grail]

revolver psyker with assail is 👌

[untold mulch]

I HAVE DONE THAT JOKE BEFORE

So good

The Player of the server needss to load save

we depend on it

[frank ether]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-18393029

[untold mulch]

🤔

[untold mulch]

[pastel geode]

I run columnus on psyker with that ability that juices you up while building peril

[frank ether]

scrier

[civic knot]

Which blessing should I yoink?

[untold mulch]

For a shovel I would say Skull

[fresh grail]

you feel like an absolute critgod when scrier's gaze is active

[frank ether]

scrier's gaze aka the better executioner stance

[untold mulch]

To my knowledge you shouldn't be holding your heavy attacks

with the shovel

[pastel geode]

Combine scrier’s with a columnus and it gets spicy

[civic knot]

How exactly does it function? Your attacks do more damage?

[civic knot]

Only if you have a stabby shovel

[frank ether]

for this shovel thrust is a better synergy as far as I'm aware

[fresh grail]

Extra power means extra damage, cleave, and stagger.

[untold mulch]

Thrust?

[pastel geode]

Got my psyker all dripped out for it

[civic knot]

is thrust always better for stabby shovels?

[untold mulch]

Hmmm

I guess if you time your heavy stab?

[frank ether]

yea you do the pickaxe attack with a thrust-limbsplitter combo and one shot crusher

[untold mulch]

OHHH

[icy orchid]

The columnus is so good

[civic knot]

wut? limbsplitter?

[untold mulch]

Then I say Plush is right

[frank ether]

that specific combo may not be neccessary but thats how I do it

[civic knot]

no matter what you want decimator for a shovel, any shovel, right?

[frank ether]

you can go for decimator but it will not work for pickaxe attack

[civic knot]

thats okay

[pastel geode]

And I think the spicy force sword for psykers is the illsi one

[frank ether]

if you want the regular decimator style of shovel

old shovel is just superior

[civic knot]

I wonder tho, might uncanny strike be better for damage and versatility?

and to combine uncanny with decimator?

[frank ether]

it does persist for a bit unlike decimator

but its not exactly power either

[civic knot]

its damage

[frank ether]

not a whole lot

[civic knot]

yes it is

have you used uncanny on a knife or DS before?

[frank ether]

yes

[civic knot]

why should it not work great with shovel stab?

you build up with light attacks, then stab with special?

[frank ether]

knife doesnt have a slow special activation attack designed to kill crushers

[civic knot]

.

[frank ether]

you can do

just not very fast

Idk I'm tired of arguing this with ppl

[civic knot]

alright well

[frank ether]

imo it just becomes a worse knife

but everyone has different taste

[civic knot]

do you know how skullcrusher blessing functions?

[frank ether]

well you stagger them and then they get a debuff allowing more damage afaik

I dont really have much experience

[civic knot]

Hmmm cause then you can do shovel stab then go into a strikedown heavy

for shovel mk 3 anyway

[icy orchid]

What is the mk 5 autogun meta blessings? Dumdum and?

[frank ether]

I could test it if I rolled a mk3 with one

but hadron keeps giving me decimator mk3s which is literal garbage