veteran-class

[scenic dune]

Bout to start poking eyes out

[delicate estuary]

Pinning fire would be better instead of shattering but since you got unlucky just change the perks for now

[delicate estuary]

Hadron says no

[polar kayak]

okay, if i get pinning fire lv4 i will try to build another one, thanks 🫡

[shrewd sierra]

🧱

[delicate estuary]

🧱

[midnight totem]

I'm not going to lie

sometimes, I think about giving up weapon specialist keystone, to get elite superiority

[umbral scaffold]

I only get it for breakpoints

Weapon specialist gets real funny on hordes

[austere jolt]

Someone define 'breakpoints' for me. I see the word a lot and have zero idea what it means.

[crude ermine]

Basically

The amount it takes to break the enemies health threshold

The breakpoint can be described as a goal to reach usually for one shotting

[delicate estuary]

Fancy word for saying how long it takes for you to one shot an enemy preferably with a headshot

[crude ermine]

Like if you need elite superiority to one shot a Rager because your weapon can't break that threshold so that node will help you break it

[eternal sable]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-speech-bubble-cat-drinking-water-stupid-stupid-cat-gif-12327862702270255434

[crude ermine]

Water tastes like

[muted knot]

@lusty jetty hey what build do you run with your Headhunter autogun? Maybe I've just been building it wrong

[junior needle]

Depends on which one

[muted knot]

The 7

We had a discussion about it being better than Hellbore

On basically every level

Because it feels better

Allegedly

And since I'm a inquisitive mind I wanna put that to the test

Hell maybe I am wrong, I'd be happy to be problem wrong

[midnight totem]

I run opening salvo and head hunter on my v7

[muted knot]

I'm talking talent wise

[quick steeple]

Vraks 7 you'd want Deadly Accurate always since it got insanely buffed + Surg/Headhunter. usually surg on 7 / HH on 2

[cinder oar]

best perks/blessings for the MK3 Sapper Shovel?

[quick steeple]

id have to look through my older builds to see if i swapped stuff for 7, been mostly using II @muted knot

[placid portal]

Thrust + Decimator or Skull crusher

Uncanny strike works well too

Perks FLak Maniac do be nice for 1 hit BPs on ragers

[cinder oar]

cheers for that, had one in the shop with T4 Hammerblow and T3 trauma and wondered if they were the go to ones

[paper furnace]

"PLEASE USE SHOTGUN PLS ILL GIVE U ALL THE BLESSINGS" -melk||, or fatshark ||

[quick steeple]

deci/uncanny/skullcrusher are all def core wants, + Thrust nice on the fold up sappers. roll sounds not worth prob but iirc hammer4 can stop ragers & maulers if you want a meme baby Zealot-Crusher lol

[quick steeple]

snag that for the respite nice

[paper furnace]

i have it rolled on three shotguns

but they're the best of each so i havent eaten the blessing yet

[quick steeple]

oh... then dont buy those bad stats lol

[crude ermine]

Point and laugh at em

[lofty nova]

Do Vets have a Sniper Rifle like weapon, i don't think there is an exact one in game but what would be the closest to one

[inland orchid]

Helbore go brr

[sharp ember]

helbores, mg12 lasguns, and the mk7 headhunter are the closest you get to a high-power rifle

[lofty nova]

ty

[sharp ember]

none have a high-zoom scope

but the mk7 does have high screen zoom

high zoom scopes aren't suited for a game like this anyway

[inland orchid]

Would get tunnel vision way too fast imo so ya is a good thing

[muted knot]

Long Las is coming fellas

Just gotta cope believe

[sharp ember]

i think if they insisted on adding a scoped weapon, it would have a variable zoom toggle

[midnight totem]

hrm

this build works decent with my revolver

gave up agile engagement and weapon specialist

[lofty nova]

honestly would just love to see a Sniper Rifle with a high armor piercing round capable of handling Carapace

[scenic dune]

scopes in this game sounds like an awful idea

[midnight totem]

for extra ammo, and +15 percent elite damage

[scenic dune]

Biggest noobtrap ever

[sharp ember]

mk3 helbore is your guy, slow and unwieldy but will drop a crusher in like 2 charge shots

[muted knot]

I mean so is a long Las on general

[sharp ember]

i used to religiously run mk1 helbore with ogryn highlight and bonus damage before the talent tree update

[midnight totem]

this build is stronger against pure groups of elites

less so against mixed hordes

not sure if worthy trade off

maybe if I was using a chainsword rather then the power sword

[quartz sapphire]

What a good gun for the volley fire hit 4 target weakness with secondary fire?

[zealous wyvern]

what level are you on veteran?

because if youre low level, just wait for that challenge

its SO MUCH EASIER

[midnight totem]

also, technically autogun

[zealous wyvern]

if you get the self-prolonging your volley fire

doing it with only the base duration is not that easy to force on purpose. automatics like fierach said

are the best bet

brrrr into horde

headlevel

hope for the best

getting 4 clean headshots on 4 targets purposefully does require skill and no one gun is much better at it i feel like

[umbral scaffold]

Revolver

It has bullet magnetism

[scenic dune]

I'd say the autoguns are trash at that

[zealous wyvern]

OH WAIT

[midnight totem]

oh wait, you mean the hit five enemy heads with single use of volley fire

[zealous wyvern]

you can literally hit the same target

"hit enemy weak spots 4 times using ads without missing weakspots inbetween"

you can just stand in front of an ogryn

with an automatic

[midnight totem]

oh that one

yeah lol

[zealous wyvern]

and go brrr into his face

its easy once you realise that

[midnight totem]

stand infront of a crusher, executioner stance

get penance

die

[zealous wyvern]

i got it by accident on my new account

[midnight totem]

because you're not dodging his overhead xD

[zealous wyvern]

just shot the plague ogryn in his head

[quartz sapphire]

30 lvl

And what the braced autogun alt fire?

[zealous wyvern]

no

use infantry autogun

for aim

hipfire makes it harder for no reason

[quartz sapphire]

I see

[zealous wyvern]

try to find a big enemy

like we said up there

and just unload in their face

[quartz sapphire]

All right

[scenic dune]

[sharp ember]

reduces vertical recoil and makes it kick horizontally, for spraying crowds

not very necessary to use but it’s fun

[zealous wyvern]

it also shoots faster

making it good for high dps

[sharp ember]

that’s only for graia pattern

[zealous wyvern]

oh i see

then i must be using the graia

didnt know

[umbral scaffold]

That's a thing? Man, almost 900 hours and I still get these tidbits of cursed knowledge

[quartz sapphire]

What does it mean weapon secondary action tho?

Or I gnore that?

[umbral scaffold]

Did you know the agri shotty's ADS reduces its cleave?

[zealous wyvern]

right click

you need to aim down sights for infantry autogun

for most guns, secondary action is just aiming down sights

a very few instead brace

and plasma charges

[quartz sapphire]

All righ

[umbral scaffold]

And the plasma ch-

[zealous wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/big-iron-big-gun-marty-robbins-gif-23220438

fastest typer in the west

[umbral scaffold]

Typewriter Ocelot

[zealous wyvern]

i thought they patched this out?

[crude ermine]

The return

[umbral scaffold]

Bodybuilder physiqur

E

[zealous wyvern]

how

how is he doing it

i thought this was deleted

[crude ermine]

Yeah I honestly don't know

[umbral scaffold]

Y'know

[zealous wyvern]

maybe brexit protected him from the new regulations dropping

[umbral scaffold]

I just realized with the beret and underwear

[zealous wyvern]

maybe the EU voted to get rid of that

[umbral scaffold]

He's going commando

[zealous wyvern]

going commando is the opposite

full gear but no underwear

[umbral scaffold]

Is it? I have done a Mandela on myself

[midnight totem]

maybe its different for ogryns

their body is their gear

[umbral scaffold]

Semantic defeat

[zealous wyvern]

casualties?

[umbral scaffold]

My pride

[zealous wyvern]

apparently the cosmetics are loading in

they failed to do so for the past 10 minutes though

everyone else is clothed fully

[torn moat]

Why am I not surprised that Ogryn has a small pp?

[zealous wyvern]

you dont know that

i assume its not in the "sizable" state

as with most men

i also bet ogryn underwear is like EXTRA STRONG

so anything flexible WILL be squeezed into shape by it

[torn moat]

I doubt the Imperium would waste time giving Ogryn extra strong underwear.

[zealous wyvern]

if the underwear wasnt super strong they would break it in a day

think about it

[crude ermine]

I don't think anyone wants to but are now unfortunately

[zealous wyvern]

he disappeared. i will never know

what luna?

[crude ermine]

I don't think people wantednto think about the orgyn's underwear breaking from the sheer power

[quartz sapphire]

Do I add ogryn to the volley?

[zealous wyvern]

i dont understand

ah

[abstract moth]

Guys do you know what are the best blessings for the illisi power sword?

[zealous wyvern]

not sure if its worth the point

but i think it disables marking shooters

so i wouldnt do it

[quartz sapphire]

I thought it help better with the penance

[zealous wyvern]

i doubt that

if you are close enough to unload a whole magazine into an ogryns face, you will be close enough not to need the highlighting

[torn moat]

Maybe ask the Psker-class chat?

[abstract moth]

I did got ghosted thought my fav chat could help me out, guess not

[junior needle]

There is no illisi power sword

[inland orchid]

Is a force sword

[lusty jetty]

You can sacrifice your choice of grenade talents to go for Marksman's Focus if you really want, but MF doesn't make as big of a difference as you may think

When at max stacks it might take one or two less shots to down a Reaper/Mauler - I would rather have Demo Team + Field Improv, or 5% crit + extra grenade

Your individual weapon/perk/blessings roll will determine if going for MF makes sense

[abstract moth]

Isn't a power sword? Is called flaming physic sword Illisi mkv

I had to translate in English myself

[junior needle]

No

That's a psyker weapon

Force swords are vet weapons and different

[inland orchid]

Power sword make de-materization field, force sword make warp field

[abstract moth]

Yeah but you use a power up to empowered it and make more damage I thought it would be recognizable, indeed I didn't say force

[abstract moth]

Make sense

[junior needle]

Force swords are only useable by psykers so you'd ask there

[inland orchid]

Sad thing is he did

Like he said, got ghosted

[junior needle]

Oh, missed that part

[abstract moth]

Yup but maybe I need to say it better?

I'll try again

[junior needle]

I just didn't read that message

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

But here you go, pretty reliable guide

[arctic rampart]

Is there a melee weapon primer for Vets?

[junior needle]

Not really. mk6 psword and rashad are generally considered the top tier melee weapons.

[lusty jetty]

1. Obtain Power Cycler

[inland orchid]

No cuz we got too many options

U wanna guide to John darktide, become John darktide

Man’s a walking Swiss Army knife

[arctic rampart]

I got cycler 4 on a mk6, but I guess I mk3 is better cause u can charge it while sliding? But I was thinking about newer chain sword or axe as fun they seem decent

[tall torrent]

Mk6 is better than mk3 rn

[arctic rampart]

I like the patterns more but u can charge mk3 while sliding and u cant charge mk6 then

[lusty jetty]

You can charge the MkVI while blocking

Although I've never actually used the MkIII so who knows

I used to be a PS hater but honestly if you have PC IV it is really really really difficult to recommend anything else

[arctic rampart]

Same, I'm trusting darktide reddit for that lul

[tall torrent]

rashad

[jaunty fiber]

Uh, unarmored to flak?

[frank basin]

I think lot pick Carapace instead

Since you already one shotting on supercharge attack against flak

[junior needle]

Supercharge attack?

You mean the push attack?

[frank basin]

Special amp up the sword

[junior needle]

That's just charged attacks

[frank basin]

I could call supercharged attack

Is odd

[junior needle]

Supercharge is an actual blessing for psword

So that'll lead to some confusion

[frank basin]

Oh lol

[lofty nova]

So after trying out all the guns i settled on the Mk7 headhunter but now i'm not sure what Blessings to change for what i'm trying to do Deadly accurate seems nice. and i assume a weakspot damage multiplier to compliment it

[junior needle]

You can do surgical/deadly or surgical/opening

Just don't do deadly without surgical, important.

[lofty nova]

surgical ty

[lusty jetty]

Opening Salvo

is very good

on Vraks VII

[sharp ember]

generally armor damage perks like Flak or Maniac are more reliable than weakspot damage bonus perks

because weakspot and crit damage perks only increase the bonus damage difference between a normal hit and weakspot/crit hit

instead of the total damage

[junior needle]

You're waiting for surgical to charge anyway so opening is a guaranteed damage boost without consciously having to pay attention to it

[bitter turtle]

surgicla/deadly accurate
unarmored/flak or maniac

is mine

[junior needle]

Not sure how well the two stack up damage wise though

[bitter turtle]

unarmored to OS dreg gunner without crit

flak or maniac both help with oneshit crit on dreg/flak rager just dpeends which you hate more ig

[junior needle]

There seems to be significantly more naked ragers

[bitter turtle]

yeah but flak helps against random bruisers when you hipfire it sometimes

since its not bad hipfired tbh

also it might help hit a bp on maulers?

i honestly just spam shots into their body with v7 so i havent checked how many it takes with or without flak

[lusty jetty]

Opening Salvo/Deadly Accurate + HH/Surgical

In the middle of auric t5 i will respond mroe later lol

[junior needle]

hh is better for vraks 3 due to how it works

[bitter turtle]

HH is not as good on v7 imo

you only spam shots into mauler bodies or crusher heads

everything else should die in 2 bullets at most

anyway

idk if you can hit the OS BP without unarmored perk against dreg gunners

mine cant at least

but it isnt completely godrolled either so idk

if you can hit it with 10% elite instead that might be nice

[lusty jetty]

I hit gunner OS without unarmoured perk using OS

[bitter turtle]

but mine falls short unless im relying on keystones which arent always reliable

o ya

if you use OS it should cover it as well

i just use deadly accurate but maybe i shoudl switch

but i think then ragers are definitely a 2shot without DA

even with a crit

well, point being

without opening salvo or unarmored i find that you're about 20% dmg modifier short from a oneshot with no crit on dreg gunners

[lusty jetty]

That is exactly why OS > DA

I will die on that hill

Crits and weakspots and weakspot crits just don't happen as often as you like ingame

[bitter turtle]

well

the main point of DA i found was just for rager OS

do you still OS rager with crit

[umbral scaffold]

I remember not liking the reset time on OS

[bitter turtle]

also it might not be perfectly reliable yeah

since sometimes you really do have to gun down gunners in rapid succession

[umbral scaffold]

And finding out hipfire and ADS reset recoil differently

[lusty jetty]

Honestly Ragers are just hard to headshot

If Ragers are coming at me in close then I'm dropping 2 frags, VoC, then magdumping/power sword

If they're out far then I don't care about oneshotting

Opening Salvo is just too consistent - at worst it's kicking in every other shot, if you're not letting it reset

[bitter turtle]

my other question then is

what do you gain with the other perk freed up from unarmored

cause the whole point of maniac or flak from my experience.,.. was ragers lol

nothing else meaningfully changes

unyielding for boss dps?

[lusty jetty]

No

If you have Vraks VII you're not on boss duty lol

[bitter turtle]

well ya

[i agree

lol

[lusty jetty]

Except BoN

[bitter turtle]

that's why I actually dont see the value in freeing up the 2nd perk

[lusty jetty]

I have Flak + Maniac

[bitter turtle]

do you know if it actually helps you hit any meaningful bps to have both w/o DA?

[lusty jetty]

I oneshot anything Flak, and need as much Maniac damage as I can get

I've never tested it without

[bitter turtle]

you dont need dmg if it doesn't help you reach a bp is why i say that

[lusty jetty]

I disagree with that very much

[bitter turtle]

like if i do 60% or 80% of a rager hp it doestn really make a big difference compared to 50% or 100%

that's what DA helps with at least

i mean i get

IN PRACTICE

they anret always at full hp

but u get what i mean

[lusty jetty]

That's exactly it

[bitter turtle]

its a benefit but not a major one

not very reliable

cause it means 1. you're relying on your teammates to be attacking the same target

and 2. they have to have done enough dmg for it to matter

im not saying its meaningless mind u

im just saying i'd rather run DA then in that case

at least my crit is a definite 50% chance minimum

for the OS

and jsut sac a perk to unarmored

that way i dont have to worry about recoil reset either against swarms of dreg gunners

[dry marsh]

Hey, I just got extremely lucky and got Power Cycler T4 from Melk. I’m wondering what keystone would be best for a mostly melee Vet? Any other build advice for such?

[bitter turtle]

right keystone

but you need a gun that works well with it

revolver/plasma are both pretty good with it and top tier weapons

[lusty jetty]

Breakpoints are a nice theoretical exercise with strong practical application ingame that is highly dependent on the role and weapon

Like - with Vraks VII it is my job to delete gunners at range, so a Gunner oneshot breakpoint is a practical metric, because they're usually far out enough to be at 100% health

The reality is for pretty much anything else - Snipers don't count because they are so squishy - it will be in close and will have taken damage from the team, so damage increments mean a lot more

[bitter turtle]

but really, anything non automatic that swaps quickly are nice

[bitter turtle]

yes, but its still up to chance if the dmg they've taken makes ur damage perk actually meaningful because its dependent on your teammates having inflicted enough dmg

[dry marsh]

Awesome, I figured the right was the best for that. I’ll look into the Ranger weapons listed. Thank you.

[bitter turtle]

in that case why not just roll the 50/50 minimum with surgical+deadshot and DA

and just run unarmored perk

that way you have no recoil reset to worry about either

[lusty jetty]

Deadshot is a trap lol

[bitter turtle]

wdym

[lusty jetty]

Stamina

[bitter turtle]

uh

its a single shot weapon

its really easy to control the stam usage on it

at least personally

i never run out

while adsing

[lusty jetty]

Cool

I find it a trap

[lofty nova]

how much do you know about Ravenguard ? in warhammer lore

[bitter turtle]

spess mehrines are smelly

:(

[lofty nova]

lol

[umbral scaffold]

Deadshot and the weapon specialist modifier for stamina on melee swap is goated

[bitter turtle]

i mean ur welcome to not take it if you dont like it

i just think calling it a trap is weird

[umbral scaffold]

It basically fixes deadshot

[bitter turtle]

its good on a lot of strong guns

[strange sparrow]

It do be like that

[iron marten]

Deadshot is a neat talent; I’m too braindead to use it properly, lol

[bitter turtle]

like memevolver

which is p similar to v7 in play anyway

[umbral scaffold]

Deadshot revolver is disgusting

[strange sparrow]

I would say deadshot are a trap because a lot of people can’t play the talent well

[lofty nova]

I like that infiltrait plays into the stealth aspect but i think executioners stance is better for a sniper build

[umbral scaffold]

Easy rager one-shots

[lofty nova]

not sure

[strange sparrow]

They run out of stamina > realised no more Crit > still ADS -> rager come near you

[lofty nova]

gotta say stealth is great for clutching a bad situation

[bitter turtle]

playing darktide is a trap bc people cant play the game well too

:^)

[strange sparrow]

Pull out weapon

Realise no block

[bitter turtle]

ive genuinely never had that problem with deadshot on single shot wep

though i will say

that happened to me

multiple times

with deadshot columnus

LOL

i dropped it after that for colu

not good enough to do that build ig

that or ppl are just literlaly running 3x stam curio that shill it

[iron marten]

I’m pretty aggressive as a vet, so I usually don’t run deadshot cause needing to block and shit

[umbral scaffold]

Deadshot wep spec

[obsidian umbra]

columnus mk5 IAG or mk2 braced auto? which would you guys say is better?

[umbral scaffold]

Kino

IAG

Shit's busted

[bitter turtle]

columnus prefers IAG

[lusty jetty]

I can't believe it's been overtuned for this long

Like... at least make it reload slower

[iron marten]

Columnus with Onslaught, and you’ll be a force to be reckoned with

[iron marten]

My poor Recon Lasgun, allowed to shine for 20ish days…

[lusty jetty]

lol

[bitter turtle]

the funny part about recon is iag would have been better that it anyway even w/o nerf

it had trash maniac damage even when it was "good"

[iron marten]

True

It was just finally being able to use a laser weapon that’s full auto, I guess

[bitter turtle]

dont get me wrong, I liked it too, i have two 570+ ones lol

[iron marten]

(And the 20k plasteel I spent on it)

[bitter turtle]

it was fun

best altnerative is pewpew mod with colu iag now ig

lol

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spare-change-spare-some-change-begging-poor-gif-18999842

Spare plasteel

[iron marten]

Well, I’m a laspistol gamer now

Fits my commissar outfit

I can give you spare diamantine!

If I could!

[bitter turtle]

What keystone are you doing on v7 then anyway @lusty jetty

[odd merlin]

Hey everybody!

[strange sparrow]

Thing is I find all the single shot weapon really not using deadshot to begin cuz their high weakspot damage

my hellbore las deadshot hate me

: ^ )

[lusty jetty]

Grenade Keystone

I ran MF for awhile but I honestly don't miss it at all

[odd merlin]

I like pairing Charismatic with demolition team. Gives me more grenades.

[lusty jetty]

Being able to spam shredders at pretty much every HISTG pack is worth

Vraks VII is performant enough without keystones

[tender pasture]

left keystone would be overegging Vraks VII

pump them overkill damage numbers

[lusty jetty]

Yep

[tender pasture]

middle is generally just good, and right offers a playstyle most vets eschew

[lusty jetty]

I just don't like anything leading up to it

[tender pasture]

middle?

[lusty jetty]

Ya sorry

[tender pasture]

all g, figured it out

yeah it's just weird

[bitter turtle]

O ya that makes sense

Yeah mf was kinda overkill imo

I was gonna suggest mid Stam regen if u wanted to try deadshot since it makes it totally brainless to manage lol

[lusty jetty]

Ya

[bitter turtle]

I started doing right keystone more again

[lusty jetty]

I like Deadshot with Revolver a lot since there's only so much stam to lose

[tender pasture]

took to putting glory hunter on right keystone zarona

basically maxed out on crit whenever I'm using it anyway

[lusty jetty]

Ya GH is super nice

I want to like right keystone

[strange sparrow]

My question is always, does that 25% feel a lot?

[lusty jetty]

but I always debuff my buff by swapping weapons

[tender pasture]

it's a very particular playstyle

[lusty jetty]

like cool I got 10 stacks, oops, just swapped

[tender pasture]

I'm a massive swordmage simp in any game I've played

so the swapping back and forth to maintain shit feels good

[tender pasture]

tbf you don't need remotely close to 10 stacks to get value out of it

[final crystal]

Been chasing some penences lately, What's a good map to get the Long Bomb penance?

[tender pasture]

enclavum baross

finale

[quick steeple]

1 stack is really what matters

[tender pasture]

yep, 1 for reload, 3 for maxed out crit

[lusty jetty]

but i need gun to go brr

[tender pasture]

also I haven't needed to manually reload a zarona in forever

[odd merlin]

Chasm Terminus boss fight is a good one too.

[tender pasture]

kill some poxies, qq, one round reloaded

[final crystal]

@odd merlin @tender pasture cool, I'll give them a shot when that maps appears.

[tender pasture]

I have my weapon swaps on mouse wheel up and mouse wheel down to cope with FS servers

[stuck gorge]

Quick tip to only click m1 and not to hold if you hold aim with grenade it increases fuse length

[tender pasture]

you need length and vertical space to be able to arc the bomb, so any map with those and defined spawns will serve

[final crystal]

Cool

[quick steeple]

@final crystal check pins

[scenic dune]

If we're talking about long bomb, I got that when I was using smoke grenades

Still not sure how that happened

[lusty jetty]

yeah I randomly got it by yeeting a grenade as far as I could cuz I saw a pack

"oh cool

"

[tender pasture]

the disrespectful direct damage from a nade

[junior grail]

Imagine if FatShark adds new cosmetic achievements and one of them is "throw 100 smoke grenades to save allies"

[crude ermine]

Pain

🍞

[tender pasture]

smokes have the potential to be really high impact but they refuse to let them be powerful

coming from fucking around on Battlebit

[quick steeple]

"throw 100 smoke grenades to~~ save ~~ Griefallies"
ftfy

[tender pasture]

people stall out in a push, spawn in with a full smoke layout and suddenly they find their courage

FS seem unwilling to properly handicap shooters

[junior grail]

Just one out of 2 things will make smoke better for me

• Lower the smoke height so we can spot heads
• Have outlined highlights of enemies through smoke like Ogryns Taunted enemies

[quick steeple]

literally just let it choke out fire/DOT hazard and I'd use it all the time lol

[tender pasture]

also, make gunners spray instead of continuing to mag dump last known location

"dunno where they are, so I'm shooting for vibes and to keep their heads down"

[strange sparrow]

This

[junior grail]

I've never seen an enemy in this game with less than 100% accuracy hahaha

[strange sparrow]

I would say taking smoke + Infil make that RP sense

You throw smoke and triggering the ability give allies (Thermal Sight) you know

[tender pasture]

nurgle got that vertical jump and aimbot juice

[crude ermine]

And baseball pros

[junior grail]

Don't forget shooting through grates that we can't shoot through

[strange sparrow]

but the problem become, what if enemy is behind the smoke

[crude ermine]

Had a trapper net me through a god damn gate

[strange sparrow]

or some distance away from smoke

[crude ermine]

Teamate saved me

[strange sparrow]

vice versa

[crude ermine]

But the trapper was back and just netted me again

[tender pasture]

have seen a clutch fail because they got kicked in the back by a sniper

[crude ermine]

Couldn't do anything about it

[hidden timber]

best movement melee?

[strange sparrow]

slap him in the face

[tender pasture]

don't think I've seen a player get domed by a grenade yet

[strange sparrow]

Knife

[hidden timber]

mk 3 combat knife?

any roll to look for?

[strange sparrow]

Bonus Sprint Efficiency and heavy moveset

Im not too sure about specific things about knife as I haven't grind that weapon yet

[junior grail]

It's our duty to bully trappers to death with shoves punches and slaps whenever able

[tender pasture]

you actually using it for shanking, or you using it as a mobility stick?

[hidden timber]

mobility

[tender pasture]

doesn't matter then, sprint efficiency is all you need

and high mobility stat ofc

[tranquil bronze]

Aaaand... 10k scabs penance done.

[scenic dune]

Any tips for On Overwatch?

[tranquil bronze]

Do it with a willing group/friends

[scenic dune]

[tranquil bronze]

Play with a willing group on Malice, and be dead for 90% of the duration fo the mission.

[scenic dune]

oh

I guess that counts huh

[tranquil bronze]

Best way to do it is jump off a cliff at the beginning of the mission, then be revived at the last part.

[scenic dune]

I'll shelve that one for now

[tranquil bronze]

Finally

[quaint plover]

i love the vraks

[tranquil bronze]

It's surprisingly ammo efficient

[quaint plover]

yeah and its satisfying to hit head shots with

also the iron sights are pretty good

[tranquil bronze]

I have weapon customizer on so it's got the holo sight from the Kantrael

[quaint plover]

thats cool is it like a mod?

[tranquil bronze]

Yes

You can find on Darktide Modders discord

[severe adder]

best secoondary curio? toughness regen and what else? is stam regen effective?

[quaint plover]

ill try it

[tranquil bronze]

I do toughness, more toughness, toughness regen, and stam regen

[severe adder]

right now im running more gold, toughnes regen, and then a mix of health/toughness/stam regen

[bitter turtle]

stam regen is great

toughness regen is kinda meh

[severe adder]

ok thx, ill use that

[severe adder]

really? hmm

[bitter turtle]

only affects coherency toughness passive regen

not your regain from stuff like CK

[severe adder]

whatrs ck

[bitter turtle]

confiremd kill

in the vet tree

the "restore 10% toughenss every time you kill an elite/special"

stuff like that doesnt get affected by curio toughness regen

[glacial yacht]

are the best blessings for infantry lasguns deadly accurate and headhunter?

or is infernus up there

[bitter turtle]

which hurts it a lot in terms of how effective it is

passive coherency regen is fairly small in a combat situation

meanwhile most of your gain is from getting melee kills or talents like ck

which it doesnt affect iirc

ordo docket(gold) is unironically decent as long as you dont feel like u could use more an extra 15% toughness/hp by slapping the 5% secondaries on 3 curios as well

[tranquil bronze]

Wth, this thing will two shot crushers on Damnation

[serene sage]

curios is rough to find

it's actually pure RNG

[wise fossil]

Uncanny Strike good

[serene sage]

you can't even grind for em

[wise fossil]

Yes, these two are best

[junior needle]

Uncanny strike is amazing

[tiny summit]

just downloaded the weapon customization mod. pretty cool

lets make a disgusting helbore

[quaint plover]

how did u do it

[tiny summit]

I hit download and install with vortex?

[tranquil bronze]

It's back on Nexus?

[umbral scaffold]

I have come to the conclusion I'll do funny crit stacking with knife vet

Provided it's additive, I believe I can get 70% crit chance

5 base, 5 node, 10 desperado, 25 reciprocity, 20 riposte, 5 perk

[tiny summit]

the mod isnt. I downloaded from the discord and manually added it in vortex

[umbral scaffold]

And apparently on this particular build I never needed unarmored to two-shot dreg gunners with mercy killer

So I was just wasting it

Now I need to see if infested is what's making my light crits one-shot poxwalkers or if I can safely remove that too

[terse idol]

I will say I don't think infested is good for annyything

[umbral scaffold]

Might not be

[terse idol]

If youre building either knife you're gonna have to be relegated with the fact that horde clear is not good

[umbral scaffold]

Maybe the finesse from vet already carries the one-shots

[terse idol]

The damage is looooooow

I don't know if you'll be one shoting any poxwalkers

Even so, you don't have cleave

[umbral scaffold]

Long as I can reliably one-shot them, the attack speed will do the rest

[terse idol]

That's fair

Imo I wouldn't try to make the knife anything it isn't good at, you may be sacrificing other things to do so

[dusty nacelle]

For plasma, does the charge rate affect the rate at which the primary fire charges at?

[hollow ibex]

that's a fixed delay

[terse idol]

Yeah like Sirosky said the uncharged rate isn't affected by charge rate anymore

[dusty nacelle]

Ooh okay awesome

So assuming i'm just spamming primary is charge rate the dump stat?

[umbral scaffold]

I'm making the finesse weapon have 70% crit

[sharp ember]

can you check the charge rate description

i could’ve sworn it had a listing for primary fire speed

charge rate dump is still pretty good though if it keeps your other stats high

[radiant chasm]

i'd dump thermal resist b4 that

jsut cause you will end up shoot->vent->shoot->vent loop

[radiant chasm]

the description ingame is outdated i'm pretty sure

Charge Rate
How fast the Charge Attack charges.

Charge Speed: [2 - 1]
Charge Speed: [1 - 0.5]

charge rate stat

[polar kayak]

have u guys ever created a new character just to get a name change? will my cosmetics stay?

[radiant chasm]

cosmetics are saved

[tender pasture]

pick a combat knife or something with hella dodge distance and defensive stats

it's one of the more instructive penances around

[terse idol]

Hmm?

Hard disagree

Thermal resist at max gives you at minimum 2 extra shots

[tender pasture]

you get a sense for the players who cheesed it when you play with them because they're losing 1v1s with poxwalkers

[terse idol]

7 to 8 or 9 I forgot

You barely charge with the pgun because SOMEHOW the dps just by spamming left click is faster than right click

At least from one video I saw

The more you can smooth out how many shots you spam the better

Needing to vent every shot just complicates things and take it from me I got a 51 TR pgun

Also TR will give you more value theoretically on gets hot and blaze it without mucking about with venting

[umbral scaffold]

I'm almost sure charge rate affects the primary on the plasma and the blessing that affects charge rate buffs it

[terse idol]

IIRC the patch notes did say it was a fixed rate I'll have to bring it up again laterr

[umbral scaffold]

Homie put this in the requisition

I'm gonna fucking unplug this servitor's RAM

[dusty nacelle]

Is going into a shoot vent loop viable if i want to make sure blaze away is always proccing properly?

[hollow ibex]

does anyone dress up their characters like hobos?

like you're walking down a dark london alleway

[hollow ibex]

and this guy approaches you

[terse idol]

yeah, it doesn't

not anymooore

[hollow ibex]

you're not blazing away if you're venting now, are you

[dusty nacelle]

So if i do get max heat I do want to vent for a little instead of just spamming then right?

[terse idol]

This is why you want Max TR

[umbral scaffold]

I'm confused by the wording, but I'm not sure it's saying the charge rate for the primary has a fixed value

[terse idol]

Dump Charge rate if you gotta

[terse idol]

It will always charge up to 0.525

And not go over

[dusty nacelle]

This is what i've been using and i have no idea whether or not i should be trying to farm a better one

[terse idol]

so in theory

That means Charge rate doesn't affect primary at all

Because it'll always charge up to 0.525

[umbral scaffold]

But that doesn't mean it has a fixed charge rate

[dusty nacelle]

Isn't it fixed? If it always charges up to 0.525

[umbral scaffold]

No, it just sets a limit

You can reach 0.525 in 1 second, 2 seconds, 10 seconds

Doesn't mean the charge rate is fixed, just the charge limit

[dusty nacelle]

ohhh i get it now

[terse idol]

TR is still better

[umbral scaffold]

I'm in the psykhanium testing some greys right now and my volatile 70%

[dusty nacelle]

So charge rate still affects how quickly the shots come out
The change just makes the level it has to charge to until it fires consistent which is why they specified it won't affect its "damage output"

[umbral scaffold]

It definitely affects the charge rate

It's just that the charge rate won't go past that 0.5something

[dusty nacelle]

Should I dump this plasma then and try getting a better one or

[terse idol]

yes because prior charge rate affected damage

It doesn't now

I would dump CR

[hollow ibex]

Unless you want to explode, you’ll have to vent yeah

[terse idol]

or

best case

You get a balanced pgun

[umbral scaffold]

They word it a bit weird because when they say "charge rate shouldn't affect damage output", it still does

[strange sparrow]

Balance Pgun

[terse idol]

No

Because pgun before

[strange sparrow]

30k plasteel investment

[terse idol]

The Charge Rate Changed the Damage

Not the DPS

[umbral scaffold]

It doesn't affect the damage of the shot, but by reaching the 0.525 faster they will make the gun deal damage faster

[terse idol]

It literally changed the damage from a range of 30-40 damag

[dusty nacelle]

I think the wording is bad but I think they mean like when spamming the primary fire it used to randomly shoot off sometimes less charged which would affect its "damage output" and the change just makes it so it's always shot out at 0.525 level now

[terse idol]

that doesn't matter though at the end of the day

[umbral scaffold]

So it still affects the damage output, contrary to what Fatshark said

[dusty nacelle]

So charge rate would affect how quickly it charges up to that 0.525 when shooting

[umbral scaffold]

It just doesn't affect the damage per shot

Yes

[terse idol]

yes

[umbral scaffold]

It's a DPS increase basically

[terse idol]

But I would skip Charge rate

TR just gives you more shots

[umbral scaffold]

Your gun looking something like this would be very nice

[dusty nacelle]

lol nvm after actually checking the difference is like minimal

well maybe it makes a bigger difference when actually used and not just looking at the stats

hmmm

[umbral scaffold]

I need the elites to one-shot reapers with a full charge

[terse idol]

yeah

like 0.2 seconds

[umbral scaffold]

I also need maniacs because without it the close range shots won't kill flamers

[dusty nacelle]

Is elites better to put on plasma than flak?

[terse idol]

not gonna be different

check your BP on dredge gunners

in a game rn

ttrl

ttyl

[dusty nacelle]

I think i 1shot both gunners with headshots

This is theee current build i'm running and i think it's been decent so far https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2297465878970090875/0E665F785A31D163F8B69CC0777E53779F6227A0/

[muted knot]

Extra weakspot damage on ability use seems like a bad investment tbh

Unless those 30% or whatever it is let's you hit specific BP

[dusty nacelle]

If u mean marksman the reason I got it is because it gives you POWER instead of just normal damage

[dusty nacelle]

power is alot better because I heard it does its calcs by applying the buff last after every other buff instead of using the base damage

[white minnow]

well, it's multiplicative with other buffs like a lot of other things

[dusty nacelle]

at least from wut i heard

[dusty nacelle]

ooh that makes sense, idrk the numbers

[dusty nacelle]

So would it be best to get a plasma with maniacs + elites on it?

[muted knot]

Power is always better than pure damage that's true but what do you hit better with it ?

[dusty nacelle]

bosses :)

[tiny summit]

I personally value the stacks on focus target far less than the other 2. I only go for the stacks if I'm going all in on that keystone

[muted knot]

I guess thats a point

I like having my VoC as a defense option most of the time

But that's just me

The cool down is low so I guess you aren't missing much by using it for marksman

[dusty nacelle]

Would it be better to use that point for something like exhilarating takedown then?

[umbral scaffold]

If your build is anything like mine, yes

I can also open the bulwark and fire a full charge in its face

The crusher takes a full charge and a bit more

[dusty nacelle]

ohhh okay i misunderstood then

[tall torrent]

can u 1 shot both gunners with that

[umbral scaffold]

Both gunners also get one-shot by the primary, and obviously so do the shotgunners

And I just do full charge bodyshots on ragers because they like coming in packs

[muted knot]

I feel like charging shots is kind of a trap at the moment

[umbral scaffold]

Ragers get a bit trickier tho

[frank basin]

Scab or Dreg?

[dusty nacelle]

ya if i headshot them
or have a few stacks of blaze away

[umbral scaffold]

I mean, people are welcome to try to chain primary shots on knocked down enemies

[muted knot]

You spend more ammo and generate more heat

[umbral scaffold]

Even if it's less efficient, I'd rather do a single headshot on a reaper and a single headshot after I open the bulwark

The time I spent trying to line up the next shots becomes a hassle I could have avoided by just doing a full charge

[dusty nacelle]

Another question a bit off topic, are krak grenades affected by whether or not they explode on an enemy's weakpoint?

[umbral scaffold]

I also found a nice chainsword

Shame it still has the bonk sound on lights

[clever niche]

Dead is dead

[dusty nacelle]

IK but i'm wondering if i want to get more boss damage if I want to throw a krak grenade on a weakpoint or if i can just toss it

[clever niche]

As far as I know krak doesn’t attach to anything else but carapace and flak, in which is non existent on monstrosities

Just toss it and use +50% damage

[dusty nacelle]

It attaches to unyielding too i thought?

[clever niche]

With extreme precision or so, which is neither here nor there in high difficulty

[umbral scaffold]

It attaches to bosses

It doesn't magnetize to them, so it needs to be a direct hit

[clever niche]

Getting your gun out deals far more damage

[dusty nacelle]

I'm just wondering whether or not it does more damage if I throw it on a weakpointtt

like would I want to throw a krak on the BoN spot or can i just throw it

[clever niche]

True opinion? Never tested

Use creature spawner mod and see

[umbral scaffold]

I tried it on a plague ogryn now

[clever niche]

Id rather pick +50% dmg and yeet

[umbral scaffold]

The grenade apparently deals impact damage

And the impact damage on the head is tripled

[clever niche]

3 to 5 at most

[dusty nacelle]

I feel like this info would still be useful whether or not i took the 50% perk

[umbral scaffold]

The impact damage is 1

The headshot impact is

3

[dusty nacelle]

So it's only the impact damage and not the explosion damage that's increased?

[umbral scaffold]

The rest is unchanged tho, same explosion damage

Yeah

Just glue it anywhere

[dusty nacelle]

okay tyyy good to know

[umbral scaffold]

But hey

You probably can deal 4.5 damage on the head if you take the 50%

[clever niche]

If explosion damage remains unchanged, then where does 50% increase go into?

[umbral scaffold]

Oh wait, I think I have the 50%

[dusty nacelle]

They meant from throwing it on a weakspot

The extra damage perk obviously increases the grenade's damage

[clever niche]

Math says yes

Are you a baseball player perchance?

[terse idol]

OH Y3EAH

You got Longshot

😌

If you got longshot, you'll be able to get the dredge gunner 1 tap headshot uncharged with +elites on the pgun

[polar kayak]

emperor keeps gifting me legendary axes and shovels, but i don't use that

i've fallen in love with this gun, used to be recon lasgun main cuz that's what the game gave me first

[umbral scaffold]

It's for you to cut some wood to make your bed and then dig your own grave

[polar kayak]

got lv4 punishing salvo earier today :3

[hollow ibex]

recon lasgun main
falls in love with autogun version of recon lasgun

checks out

[orchid condor]

as all things should be i guesss

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-balanced-gif-3226445978144001245

fatshart be like

[tranquil bronze]

I've officially turned into a Vraks main

And that angers me so

[polar kayak]

looks OP, that gun shoots slow tho and small clip

[tranquil bronze]

It's actually very ammo efficient, especially with survivalist.

[polar kayak]

oh cool

[tranquil bronze]

It one taps gunners

[polar kayak]

nice

[tender pasture]

wdym

Columnus autogun isn't shit

[sharp ember]

it pewpew fast

except this one actually does good damage

[flat dirge]

i feel robbed

[patent swift]

Cleave Targets is dump stat ?

[sharp ember]

wow

hits 1 poxwalker when powered

[umbral scaffold]

Hybrid combat makes me moist

Day 57 : still waiting for Krieg skin

[polar kayak]

cursed new roll :[

[umbral scaffold]

I think I will go the extra mile on the crit meme

Nevermind, smackdown sucks ass

I noticed it had a 1 on the buff when it procced, but I think even stacking it'd not be worth the hassle

[hollow hawk]

I have a question about the shout ability

For the upgrade that makes it able to revive people, does the extra cooldown only apply when you revive someone, or is it on every shout?

This one

[hollow ibex]

every shout

it's a trap

left node is what you want

[hollow hawk]

Yeahh just checking, was too good to be true lol

[hollow ibex]

yuuup

[umbral scaffold]

It's a pretty decent sidegrade tbh

It would be interesting for the cooldown to only kick in during revives, maybe with it stacking per player revived

[frank basin]

i wish

that would be useful

[jovial aurora]

probably keep critical damage?

[umbral scaffold]

I'd keep weakspot

[jovial aurora]

wait trolling or serious?

[umbral scaffold]

Crit damage depends on you critting, while weakspot depends on you clicking heads with a gun that has bullet magnetism

[jovial aurora]

it's got surgical 4

[umbral scaffold]

Keep the crit if you want

[jovial aurora]

im just gonna leave it for now

now all i gotta do is get hand cannon 4 and i got myself a solid volver finally

i have cannon 3 so that'll have to do for now

[jovial aurora]

do you need carapace armor to do the fabled crusher 1 tap funnis?

or with the 80 percent crit bonus do you think i'll be fine?

wasn't tryna contest what you was saying either i was just legit wondering your logic lol pretty new yet only 120 hrs

[tranquil bronze]

I'm just glad my shovel can two tap crushers

[frank basin]

With Limsplitter?

[tranquil bronze]

Yep

[frank basin]

Using the fold shovel

Right?

[tranquil bronze]

Yes

[frank basin]

Huh

[tranquil bronze]

My shovel is specifically built to counter crushers

And slap ass

[frank basin]

You could try thrust for horde too.

[jovial aurora]

there's one that can one tap them

fuck giving them a second chance

[frank basin]

I use chainaxe to kill crusher

[jovial aurora]

grade iv thrust grade iv limbsplitter but he doing stealf funnies

[hollow hawk]

Which combat blade is the best on veteran btw?

[tranquil bronze]

There's only two of them and they both function slightly differently

[hollow hawk]

[tranquil bronze]

One is for single targets, and the other hits multiple iirc

[jovial aurora]

@feral stirrup if you up what the maffs do

critical or weakspot damage if i have to keep one on a zarona

which one gonna give me more raw damage on crit

[frank basin]

The mark 3 light attack and heavy pattern are single target swiftly. The mark 4 is crowd control pattern both light and heavy.

[hollow hawk]

Ty ty

[frank basin]

You welcome

[terse idol]

It's.. kinda bad for the current voc play style, and uh

You gottaaa know how to revive people

[finite carbon]

Survivalist and Scavenger stacks, right?

[terse idol]

No

Survivalist replaces scavenger

Actually..

I have no idea

[finite carbon]

Breh

[terse idol]

Survivalist does replace scavenger

[finite carbon]

If one player has scavenger and the other survivalist, do the 2 auras stack?

[umbral scaffold]

That's because people are getting used to what's pretty much the top ability of the game and thinking everything less is a downgrade that ruins their match

[frank basin]

I like VoC give breathing room

[umbral scaffold]

When people tell me the 15 seconds that the revive adds is screwing their matches because vet is meant to be shouting immediately when the cooldown's over, I just keep thinking what kind of nightmares they're putting themselves into where they think they actually have to be shouting as soon as possible

Consistently

[tranquil bronze]

Auric Damnation

[umbral scaffold]

That's the thing, I play revive shout in there and also play lots of matches where people don't have VoC at all

There is definitely an argument to be made where it's an absurd shitshow that's lasting for minutes and the vet does need to be shouting back to back to keep people alive, but those situations feel rare even in auric

[dusty nacelle]

Maybe we just like the bigger VOC radius because it makes us feel like we're shouting louder :)

[umbral scaffold]

I am of the mind Fatshark didn't balance auric damnation around at least one person having a basic VoC just as I remember people saying gun psykers were a hidrance because they were daring to consume ammo

People get the weirdest takes on the game and don't account for Fatshark accounting for the sheer randomization of quickplay

You can get 4 VoC, you can get none; you can get 4 staff psykers, you can get none

[umbral scaffold]

I like to think they accounted for a sort of base for the worst scenarios

Also Fatshark has lied to me

Smackdown lasts 5 seconds, not 2

It seems abusively inconsistent to proc in matches though

I swear half of the chaff I punch doesn't trigger smackdown and still gets staggered

As I remember somehow proccing it on crushers, despite not actually being able to in the pskykhanium

Also this is without infested and using 8% weakspot on the weapon

I hate crafting

[left zephyr]

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[umbral scaffold]

Time to roll a whole-ass new weapon

[left zephyr]

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[umbral scaffold]

Because apparently 80% first target, 79% finesse and all passive melee damage bonuses on the vet tree still aren't enough

[jovial aurora]

Speaking of crushers

[umbral scaffold]

Now I need to roll something with higher damage and pray the first target and finesse possibly being lower doesn't counterbalance the thing and screw me

[tall torrent]

You’re not gonna believe this but zealot doesn’t have the exactly the best anti-carapace options

[left zephyr]

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[tall torrent]

Ogryn only has like 5 weapons that handle crushers fast

[jovial aurora]

So fucking satisfying lol

[tall torrent]

Ripper guns (all 3) specifically with can-opener blessing
Mk5 and mk19 shovel with thrust and +carapace can folded atk one shot crushers

[hybrid token]

pretty much all ogryn melee weapons can fight crushers ok except knife

[tall torrent]

I suggest play with the other classes to better understand their kits

[left zephyr]

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[tall torrent]

They’re usable at fighting crushers but folding shovels are the best at that

[left zephyr]

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[tall torrent]

Like, u can say shield handles crushers fine, but it does not kill them very fast lol

[inland orchid]

Sadly knocking them over isn’t killing them, I wish

[left zephyr]

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[tall torrent]

They nerfed crusher stagger

[left zephyr]

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[hybrid token]

my power sword used to stagger crushers with 2 headshots and no longer does

[tall torrent]

There’s like a flat 2.5s stagger immunity on crushers after u successfully stagger them

Before that update you could stun lock crushers with combat axe

Can’t do that anymore

[lilac eagle]

I feel like Ragers got some stagger resistance

[tall torrent]

They have a decent amount of stagger resist during their combos

[hybrid token]

havent noticed

[lilac eagle]

I used to be able to dodge back and heavy attack spam to keep them at bay, now they just full combo through it and don't give a shit

[lilac eagle]

Aaah that makes sense

[hybrid token]

one head height power sword heavy is usually enough to stagger the group of ragers enough that i can dodge

[tall torrent]

You need some high stagger atks to break them out of their combos

[jovial aurora]

just do revolver and one tap them and still be useful for clusters or maniacs

[tall torrent]

Power sword empowered lights can
Combat axe push atk can

[lilac eagle]

I need to grind out a better Psword

My current one doesn't interrupt them

[tall torrent]

The poke attacks on tac axes and shovel can

[hybrid token]

slaughterer helps with staggering

[tall torrent]

You need to hit them in the head

I think

[lilac eagle]

I need power cycler

Haven't rolled any Pswords with it yet

[jovial aurora]

dragons claw parry can stagger a crusher out of swing lmao

[tall torrent]

DC is a good defense weapon but the carapace dmg is miserable

[inland orchid]

God forbid everything else gives u the time to parry the crusher

[umbral scaffold]

Fellas, I had a cursed thought

[inland orchid]

Y’know if they’re feeling like being nice

[umbral scaffold]

Mayhaps and perchance

[jovial aurora]

okay don't freak out on me if i'm wrong but with carapace damage im pretty sure it's in the one or two hit range

[umbral scaffold]

The damage aura will bring me to the breakpoint for poxwalkers

BUT

[lilac eagle]

Parry feels so bad to use for me, like its fun when I do whip out a weapon with it but I just prefer the activatable of chain weapons

[jovial aurora]

im just guessing from having used it on them lol

[umbral scaffold]

I need to give up on the movement speed aura

[inland orchid]

You lost me at breakpoint, I don’t use those

Best of luck with ur thought tho

[tall torrent]

Haven’t used DC much recently

Again veteran breakpoints can get pretty stupid sometimes because he has so many extra damage talents

[jovial aurora]

yeah i got almost all the pertinent melee ones

[tall torrent]

The breakpoints u get with a regular DC sword vs with both +15% elite and +20% ogryn/monster are very different

[jovial aurora]

don't know how people roll without them tbh

plus 20 percent weakspot on ability use

[lilac eagle]

Yknow what has been pissing me off lately? The fucking crit headshot sound being the same one as when you kill something with a crit headshot.

[lofty nova]

So question if i wanted to make my melee weapon purely for horde clear and nothing els. what perks would be ideal to run. i doubt Flak and maniac is as important there.

[lilac eagle]

I've left soooo many Goddamn gunners on 1 HP because of that lately

[tall torrent]

Which weapon

[jovial aurora]

the gunners have been making me mad the stagger after this last big patch is straight aids lol

[lilac eagle]

Psword with slaughter and stacking power on swing

[lofty nova]

Catachan MK III

[lilac eagle]

Or power cycler

[tall torrent]

Slaughterer isn’t even the best on power sword anymore

[lilac eagle]

Probably better tbh for horde clear

[tall torrent]

Combat knife?

[jovial aurora]

flak is pertinent

[tall torrent]

You’re using combat knife for horde clear?

[jovial aurora]

also unarmored

[tall torrent]

Ok first recommendation

[jovial aurora]

or maniac for mix ins

[lilac eagle]

At least I wasn't the only one who thought that was weird

[tall torrent]

Don’t take combat knife for horde clear

[lofty nova]

no sorry wrong name

[hybrid token]

my horde clear weapon is "stealing all the ammo"

[lofty nova]

Devil Claw/

?

[umbral scaffold]

Forgive them oh beneficent Emperor, for they knoweth not

[tall torrent]

Unarmored/flak/maniac

That’s what I’d go with

[lilac eagle]

Meh, never liked the regular swords for wave clear.

They get 'stuck' on weaker enemies rather than cleaving through them

[tall torrent]

Power sword meta rn is power cycler + BM/sunder

[lilac eagle]

BM?

[tall torrent]

Slaughterer and rampage are a tier below BM/sunder

Brutal momentum

[hybrid token]

Big Momma

[lilac eagle]

Oooh is that the one that increases impact based on how many enemies you're swinging through?

[tall torrent]

No

[lilac eagle]

Impact/cleave, forget what it is

[tall torrent]

Ignore enemy hit mass on weakspot kill

[lilac eagle]

Oh that one

[tall torrent]

Allows u to 1 shot 4 bruisers in one empowered hit

[sleek garden]

i had a psyker get super mad at me for bringing damage aura

whats the deal

we already had a guy with survivalist on the team

[sharp ember]

lol gunker

[lilac eagle]

Health aura OP OP

[lofty nova]

actually what blessing with devil claw for horde clearing

[sharp ember]

it’s not like same auras stack

[umbral scaffold]

he wanted the move speed aura you dumbass

smh

give him that 5%

[tall torrent]

Savage sweep + rampage

[umbral scaffold]

zoomies

[tall torrent]

Rampage is must-have

[umbral scaffold]

you denied him the zoomies

[tall torrent]

Savage sweep could be substituted for wrath

[lofty nova]

ty

[sleek garden]

no i said i wanted more damage and hes like so that 5 percent boost is definitely helping your stats huh ive got the scoreboard mod and ive got triple your damage

dude

[umbral scaffold]

nft ape

[sleek garden]

its the first 5 minutes of the match

what is wrong with some people

[sharp ember]

but avoid devastating strike for cleave, it needs a buff

[sleek garden]

@tribal matrix

[tranquil bronze]

HERETIC

[tall torrent]

Scoreboard inflating egos

[lilac eagle]

Aren't NFT and Lazy Ape in general spiralling into crippling debt and loses.

[sleek garden]

im supposed to ping a mod right

[bleak tangle]

we are this close to greatness, Melk

[sleek garden]

its gone...

no more monkey man

[sharp ember]

like its value

gone

[sleek garden]

good

[tranquil bronze]

The heretic has been slain

[sleek garden]

ive been messing around with my veteran

i have this autogun that feels good but doesnt do very good damage

which is partially why im bringing damage aura

so ive specced as hard as i can into extremely spiky weak spot damage

[inland orchid]

He even tried it in all sorts of other chats spreading like plague, thankfully we got cool warden

[tall torrent]

Which autogun

[sleek garden]

let me check

[tall torrent]

If it’s a braced autogun don’t bother with weakpoint dmg

[sleek garden]

but its a brown autogun not a headhunter and not a braced