veteran-class

[dry marsh]

Right, but I mean the minimum to when you start seeing T4

[junior needle]

No clue, probably around there though

[dusty nacelle]

For a plasma gun, what perks and blessings would I want on it?

[solar sky]

Gets hots, shattering impact, blaze away

pick two

for perks, maniac +flak or unyielding+flak, depends on what you want to do

[sonic marlin]

if i change a perk, the slot unlocks and i can change it infinite times right

[zealous wyvern]

does anyone know what the new cadian helmet is inspired by?

cadian helmets dont look like that from what i can find online

[dusty nacelle]

What would the major diff be if I chose maniac or unyielding? better against specialists vs bosses?

[zealous wyvern]

the extra layer on forehead and down the sides seems to be added out of nowhere

[wise fossil]

Gets hot/ blaze away

[civic knot]

Get this for decimator?

[wise fossil]

Decimator is very good for light attack spam

[dusty nacelle]

So for something like this I would want to replace gloryhunter with gets hot and ranged weakspot damage to maniac?

[civic knot]

ye but not sure if you even need it for axe

[wise fossil]

I like unyielding but maniac is also v good

[zealous wyvern]

is this a real thing or did FS just invent this? reminds me of the rebels in OG star wars

[dusty nacelle]

I'm running krak grenades for extra boss damage so I might run maniac

I don't have a good power sword yet so i'm running a devil's sword mk4

[wise fossil]

Also congrats on the roll. Very solid

[civic knot]

starship troopers?

[dusty nacelle]

Either way if maniac doesn't pan out i can always switch it to unyielding later

[zealous wyvern]

true

[wise fossil]

Power sword great, also don't sleep on shovel Mk7

[wise fossil]

Probably not tbh. On a combat axe anyway

[civic knot]

alright, wont buy it then

[zealous wyvern]

reminded me of this too

random img from google

[wise fossil]

Momentum headtaker is probably what I'd use on combat axe

[dusty nacelle]

I might try to get a decent shovel then, i've literally consecrated 20 power swords and haven't gotten a single one with power cycler

like not even rank 4 of power cycler literally none have gotten any rank of it

[wise fossil]

Or shred if I was using it on a zealot

Thrust also good depending on which Mk axe

[hollow ibex]

I gave up and just waited until milk gave me one

You really need pc4 too

Pc3 is just annoying to use

[wise fossil]

Yeah, power cycler really has to be IV

[dusty nacelle]

Looked in melk's shop and it's my first ever power cycler sword...
and it's pc3 💔

hadron and melk refuse to give me a pc4 sword because they know the first thing i'm going to do is test it on them

[zealous wyvern]

shotgun with 64% damage but every other stat almost max

worth buying? agri

i keep hearing dmg stat isnt actually that important on most guns

[spring spindle]

I may not be the best with it but boy do I love a fanning revolver cause I feel cool

[hollow ibex]

Ehhhhhhhhhh

Damage is pretty important on something like agri

[zealous wyvern]

what guns dont need the dmg stat much?

[hollow ibex]

Directly impacts whether you hit breakpoints on it

[hollow ibex]

Purgatus and maaaaaybe the flamer

[zealous wyvern]

im vet only

[hollow ibex]

Matters on pretty much everything else tho

[zealous wyvern]

:(

i heard its for basically every weapon that doesnt have a special effect impacted by the dmg stat in a major way

but couldnt tell what that would be

[serene sage]

You can get away with low damage plasma and Revolver

Cause their damage table is already kinda bonker

[zealous wyvern]

i see

thank you

[dusty nacelle]

Also, what do i want more on my curios? Health or toughness?

[serene sage]

Health toughness
Stamina for deadshot if you use it

Maybe 1 wound if you want it, not any more though

[junior grail]

Unless martyrdom zealot

[stiff merlin]

Does deadshot work on Plasma Gun?

[finite imp]

no

maybe?

i dont think so

[stiff merlin]

I mean, I've tried and it didn't seem to activate but I had to double check

[finite imp]

is your stam going down while charging?

[dusty nacelle]

testing out the plasma gun after using exclusively the columnus iag and wow

[finite imp]

go on

[dusty nacelle]

haven't tested it in an actual mission yet but i was surprised at how fast it deleted

going to take it into one nowww

[finite imp]

plasma is super heated gas. That shit hurts

it melts even

[wise fossil]

Plasma is love

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-100-yard-stare-meme-gif-251436459491629941

[zealous wyvern]

i do love plasma

[finite imp]

knife springs joy knife brings life

[zealous wyvern]

i havent used a plasma gun for roughly 10 months now

[frank basin]

Boltgun and helbore

[zealous wyvern]

but i loved it back then

[serene orbit]

Ah hell, I actually got a near perfect roll. I just know Hadron is gonna screw me over

[zealous wyvern]

and will use it again once i get a good one

or at all. i barely ever get a plasma

[zealous wyvern]

the faithless are affirmed in their despair

[stiff merlin]

I'm just trying to figure out my plasma gun build and also, I wouldn't need rending, right? I feel like, other than Carapace, Plasma gun just says "What armor?"

[serene orbit]

i have faith that she is going to be cranky this evening

[tall torrent]

If u roll unarmored perk you’re basically set for a good axe

[zealous wyvern]

that is a certainty

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/flying-weightlessness-zero-gravity-microgravity-freefall-gif-26334015

[zealous wyvern]

but she might give you a good weapon

[tall torrent]

But going from a good Rashad to a great Rashad is stupidly hard

[zealous wyvern]

unarmoured maniac?

[tall torrent]

No

[zealous wyvern]

unarmoured carapace!

[tall torrent]

U want unarmored + flak

[zealous wyvern]

oh

[tawny parcel]

hey guys how would you guys make this shovel better?

[tall torrent]

Brutal momentum + headtaker

[serene orbit]

😭

[zealous wyvern]

thank you

rough

[dusty nacelle]

What would you recommend using for my melee if i'm running plasma gun and krak grenades?

[zealous wyvern]

next time

try a little faith

[tall torrent]

Could take to gold to see if it gives u headtaker or brutal momentum

[serene orbit]

shred

[tall torrent]

It’s over

[serene orbit]

yep

[tall torrent]

Harvest or sell

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/itsover-wojack-gif-4367840179675491690

[serene orbit]

i fucking hate hunting for a good rashad, man

this is my current one, and it is barely shy of one-shotting dreg bruisers

[frank basin]

I have chainaxe with good roll it bricked until I just care about two blessings swap headtaker and slaughter, that’s it.

[serene orbit]

(if I swap unarmored to flak, it's just shy of one-shotting scab bruiser)

[strange grove]

Is there a trick to stop Muties with shovel poke? Mine only works half the time.

[tall torrent]

Rashad is the real veteran endgame

[tall torrent]

Poke on its head

It staggers mutants

[strange grove]

Oh great, head is so tiny

[wise fossil]

Join shovel gang gang

[tall torrent]

But it’s not as good as mk3 or mk7 shovel where if u do a folded heavy on mutant head, it’s 1 shot (no maniac needed)

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-batman-gif-12311761

He’s big like bane

Mutant big like bane

[strange grove]

That timing tho has to be perfect id imagine

[wise fossil]

It's a two-part damage so you usually wait until the charge is stopped

[tall torrent]

It’s not as bad as u think

[strange grove]

Or use standard issue and halt it

[frank basin]

Standard issue do punch

[jovial aurora]

just unlocked this

.....on my fucking psyker

[frank basin]

Mine on psyker is 54 damage

And still does the job

[strange grove]

Gunker is good, try it

Right side tree

[jovial aurora]

well it just popped dumdum 3 so this thing just woke up this morning wanting to be good

[tame zenith]

nice try, melk

[wise fossil]

Congrats. Gun psyker is top tier

[strange grove]

How do I get Melks jacket?

I’d pay Aquila’s for that.

[wise fossil]

You can get peacoats at a number of retailers

[serene orbit]

why is the game like this

[frank basin]

It’s a gacha game

[junior needle]

It's purposefully designed for """""""""""player retention"""""""""""""

[jovial aurora]

What's the imperitive blessing for this thing

[serene orbit]

I am very retented right now

[jovial aurora]

it rolled out dum dum 3 for it's blue roll

[frank basin]

Like destiny 2

[wise fossil]

Congrats, dumdum is the good one

[frank basin]

Their design retention players

[strange grove]

lol. I couldn’t pull off that look irl

[wise fossil]

It's not too hard. Wear it for special occasions with a nice scarf

Learn how to tie a fancy knot

[strange grove]

I prefer heated jackets

Nice ones so I don’t turn into a fireball

[strange sparrow]

Please stop

[serene orbit]

no u

[strange sparrow]

The only thing that it retaining is me grinding 40k before another investment

And waiting for like the update to hit

[cinder oar]

can you apply ridiculous amounts of brittleness with shattering impact on the boltgun? or is it only the 1-4 stacks refreshed per direct hit?

[frank basin]

I play lesser time on Darktide because rng stuff getting me bored and map play same repetitive

[junior needle]

Don't blame the messenger

[strange sparrow]

Shoot the messenger instead

[junior needle]

Don't kick the baby

[ebon umbra]

deliver the baby to nurgle

[strange sparrow]

Not wrong

Nurgle is into that circle of life thing

[serene sage]

[frank basin]

My guess is the coffin game

[serene sage]

either you saw it before or you need help

maybe both

[frank basin]

Wydm I need help?

I’m aware the game

I don’t know the story of it

[ebon umbra]

this is your mother, reach through the fog you can do it we love you

wake up

[frank basin]

What?

This is some kind blood borne?

[finite imp]

gotta be magic pussy chapter 2

[serene sage]

Is this better or worse than Darktide specs?

[pastel geode]

I find it funny that people jumped at the developer over the single scene in the path that specifically says “this doesn’t seems like a good idea”

[frank basin]

Too much info, overwhelming

Game also have microtransaction

As I heard

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/shakingperson-violentshake-gif-20683608

[serene sage]

i can fix her

me, unironically

in fact, most men, unironically

in fact, in fact, most women, unironically

in fact, in fact, in fact, everyone, unironically

[frank basin]

🔧 I’m going fix him

[hidden timber]

How do people get 380 stat rolls?

just rng rolling or?

I've only gotten like 360

[frank basin]

Play lot single class in many hours and purchases many burnt weapon or requisition shop. That’s my guess

[serene sage]

RNG from shops and Brunt grey gambling

Install Buy Until Rating mod to save your sanity if you're hunting for high BST weps

[hidden timber]

is it even worth it?

[pastel geode]

https://tenor.com/view/morathi-total-war-warhammer-cult-of-pleasure-dark-elves-druchii-gif-25013110

[zealous wyvern]

the endorphine i receive when earning a blessing from hadron is wonderful

this must be administratum directed copium for the troops

[frank basin]

Warhammer 40k: Darkium

[frank ether]

that looks ok

if those are like

native res

and not upscaled

2060 for 1080P60 is very reasonable

[serene sage]

oh you sweet summer child

im looking more at 1440p tbh

6800 for 60fps seems rough

[frank ether]

I have a 6800XT I will play it native regardless

[serene sage]

I mean same

I'm hoping for 90fps

[frank ether]

yea that would be pretty sweet

[serene sage]

but we will probably get 75 at best with 6800XT

[frank ether]

I think you can probably get there by dropping some settings

upscalers not so bad for 1440P

[frank basin]

I always tone setting down

[serene sage]

do you play DT native you mad man

[frank ether]

yea

I take the shimmering

over the fsr blur

[serene sage]

holy shit

[frank basin]

What’s native do?

[serene sage]

how much fps you have

[frank ether]

120 flat

I capped it

[serene sage]

what im upscaling that shit im getting like 100 average

[frank ether]

it does drop to like 80-90 sometimes in auric mael cause memory leaks and stuff

[frank ether]

its more on the cpu side

[serene sage]

native is real 1440p
upscale is 1080p, well, upscaled to 1440p

[serene sage]

it's a 5800X, it can't be the bottom neck

[frank ether]

I have a 5800X3D with like, binned memory

4400 CL19

[serene sage]

mine is the non 3D version

heat is fine too

[frank basin]

So is 1440p similar to 4k resolution something?

[serene sage]

one step below

[frank basin]

3k?

[serene sage]

people coloquially call it 2k

[frank basin]

Oh

[serene sage]

though it's not correct at all

but colloquially, so who cares, 1440p is "2k"

[frank basin]

Right

[frank ether]

I'm waiting for affordable oled

I'll be waiting a few more years at least lmao

[serene sage]

Full HD is 1080p which is the most popular resolution out there

HD is 720p

[frank basin]

Mhm

I could see that

[frank ether]

I'm still on 1080P

[serene sage]

it does like
SD - Standard Def
HD - High Def
FHD - Full High Def
QHD - Quad High Def
UHD - Ultra High Def

[frank ether]

I do just play a lot of games at 4K and then downscale it to 1080P

[serene sage]

what the fuck

[frank ether]

like a really backwards way of doing AA

[serene sage]

is wrong with you

[frank ether]

I play really old games .d

or not so demanding ones

[serene sage]

get a 1440p my brother

I cry

[bleak bolt]

Frames win games

[frank ether]

nah this is fine

[vernal harbor]

tbf my fiancé fixed me so they might be onto something

[serene sage]

see?

it works guys

I promise

[vernal harbor]

i can fix my vermintide 2 addicted boyfri-

[gleaming turtle]

Oops, wrong channel lmao

[zealous wyvern]

wait

where do i get that gun

[hidden timber]

which revolver is the best?

or recommended

[zealous wyvern]

if you want precise high dmg

then the lower mk

if you want fan the hammer to quicky kill certain things in a less precise way (you cant aim down sights)

you want the higher (more recent) mk

17?

[hollow ibex]

Zarona best

[zealous wyvern]

oh are they not both called zarona?

i see

yes zarona is the meta one with aim down sights

[hidden timber]

does the fan one still work well or nah?

[hollow ibex]

I don’t like it

[zealous wyvern]

if youre good at hip aiming, im sure its still good

revolver is very very good

so the fan one surely is still good

just not as good

[hollow ibex]

Most of the people that run it just do it for the Wild West feeling

[potent iris]

the fan one is just the more reasonably balanced one

[hollow ibex]

You can miss specialists at 15m with a perfectly aimed shot because of innate inaccuracy

Which is pretty annoying ngl

[potent iris]

zarona is just overtuned rn

[hidden timber]

gotcha

[jovial aurora]

she's not turninng out too bad tbh

[jovial aurora]

idk if it's over tuned

i think it's pretty reasonably balanced considering it takes like 3 years to reload

[zealous wyvern]

the accuracy on the other revolver does sound kinda bad....

perfectly aimed hipshot at 15m should not miss

ever

[potent iris]

ehhh it's overtuned imo, the reload really isn't that bad

[zealous wyvern]

thats horrible

on a 5 shooter

[dusty nacelle]

Which grenades are best if using a plasma gun?

[zealous wyvern]

its still a damn revolver

[jovial aurora]

which grenades do you want to use?

[potent iris]

kinda weird the revolvers aren't 6 shooters tbh

[zealous wyvern]

i HATE that

or 4

its 5

id like 4 or 6

5 makes me unhappy in both ways

[jovial aurora]

alot of large caliber revolvers are 5 shooters irl

[zealous wyvern]

double the trouble

oh really

[dusty nacelle]

ummm probably one that covers the situations that the plasma doesn't best

[jovial aurora]

like meme large

[zealous wyvern]

that does help it

[potent iris]

4 would make more sense for the current damage output on the zarona, the fan one should be el 6 shooter

[jovial aurora]

do you have anything in melee?

[zealous wyvern]

id like that

[jovial aurora]

or just straight plasma gun nonsense

[potent iris]

like big caliber reolvers can be 5 or less but like, .44 magnum can still be done in a 6er

[dusty nacelle]

well currently i'm using a catachan devil's mk4 but i'm planning on switching to a power sword mk6

eventually

[jovial aurora]

if you can horde fine with your melee weapon

go with krak

if you want huge crowd control

go with frag

[zealous wyvern]

id say plasma is probably bad at killing a million shooters so maybe frag to interrupt them all, then charge them with melee?

hordes can be done with melee, big targets can be plasmad

[jovial aurora]

krak is just too good to turn down

[zealous wyvern]

the only trouble for plasma are in the middle

[jovial aurora]

couple kraks is like half a plague ogryns health bar lmao

[zealous wyvern]

out of melee range but too many to gun them all down quickly

krak is very good but plasma does that already. since they asked what grenade helps with plasma weaknesses id say frag

[dusty nacelle]

hmmm.. one of these melees aren't like the others

[zealous wyvern]

huh what is that weapon the vet on the left has

[jovial aurora]

there's not enough frags in the world to deal with a eighth of the shooters on auric damnation even with pulling one out of your prison wallet every 60 seconds

[zealous wyvern]

also why is the middle vets chainsword gunked up with an axe blade? looks horrible

[zealous wyvern]

i suppose that is true

[radiant chasm]

dclaw

[zealous wyvern]

why is it so big

[jovial aurora]

POWER SHOVEL

[zealous wyvern]

it looks so much wider than i know them. i must have missed this skin

oh wait maybe its modded in since this person uses mods

[radiant chasm]

left? either skin or a variant

[zealous wyvern]

its a mod unlock i bet

[radiant chasm]

dclaws have 3 variants and all of them are different

[jovial aurora]

dclaw is real nice

[radiant chasm]

honestly that just looks like the red docket chroma

[zealous wyvern]

i also have to say the axe chainsword and powersword chainsword look weird

no

its not

i have that one

its much thinner

[jovial aurora]

i used to use the mkiv but the milkman deemed that i use a vii

[zealous wyvern]

that one up there must be a mod unlock or straight up custom

i wonder why there are never any images of certain cosmetics and weapons on google images

ive never played a game where googling things got you so few results

90% of the cosmetics arent even findable

weird

[spark helm]

bruh lmao

[terse idol]

make it 7 and you got a deal 😌

[terse idol]

Oh maybe because nobody posts them anywhere but discords

And reddit?

Reddit should pull up results unless people aren't tagging it proper

[zealous wyvern]

reddit should show on google

thats the thing

also there are wikis

and the wikis have images too

i dont get it

its like something is blocking the search engine from darktide content

[terse pagoda]

are plasma rifles valid now?

[zealous wyvern]

they are standard equipment for high level now

gets hot + trophy hunter or blaze away for blessings i believe

dumpstat is temp resistance

[hollow ibex]

Plasma? It’s insane now

[zealous wyvern]

you dont want to charge your shots unless it does a breakpoint i suppose but am not sure

[sterile wadi]

This worth grabbin?

[hollow ibex]

Nah nearly bricked already and stopping power matters

[last parcel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1075219284785107104.webp?size=48&name=flushed~1&quality=lossless

[hidden summit]

Does charge rate still affect damage for plasma?

[serene sage]

allegedly no

but i haven't seen any tested if they actually fixed it

[hidden summit]

Curious

[serene sage]

UwU

does this look too funny?

should I cave and get the scion helmet?

[gusty crane]

Just use the free one.

[serene sage]

the mask?

[finite imp]

that would require them to make new models

[terse idol]

Its in the patch notes

but yeah I didn't do any testing either lul

[gusty crane]

The helmet.

[crude ermine]

Of course you give me a good 1 after I give up trying to get one

I don't even want it

[serene sage]

like this?

[gusty crane]

How do you hit anything with those? 😅

[last parcel]

by smacking them with it

[gusty crane]

I'd love to use a helbore instead of my revolver, but it makes me suddenly blind.

[dusty nacelle]

For a catachan mk4 devil's sword, what would a godroll look like?

[terse idol]

Well good news

[tranquil bronze]

Will have to do for now until I get a better DA

[terse idol]

The bayonet is one of the best melee weapons in the game

Unironically

Iirc BM works on helbore melee I thiiink

So

Its great

[brisk sapphire]

They patched the limbsplitter bayonet shenanigans sadly

[terse idol]

Yeah

[brisk sapphire]

Not sure bout BM

[terse idol]

But BM is still solid

If it still works

[placid portal]

I think it still works

Cleave away with the Empra's Bayonet Soldja

[frank basin]

https://youtu.be/VDGXj8_yl7k?si=rgsuXe6b2peA-Nii

How it feel using grey weapon vs gold weapon moment

[tacit wedge]

any tips on completing the veteran triumphs for the cosmetics?

[terse idol]

Which one in particular?

[tacit wedge]

for the chest piece and Helmet

Killshot's Duty Uniform and Graia Mk IV E carapace warden helm

[terse idol]

No no like what is the achievement called

[terse idol]

Make every shot count?

[tacit wedge]

yeah

and the one where you have to kill 5 enemies without the frag bouncing

[gusty crane]

I did the frag in the train station. Boss room. But smelter should also work.

Revolver is good for all the ammo stuff.

[hidden timber]

what perks do you want on a revolver?

flak 25 and maniacs?

[gusty crane]

Flak dies to headshots anyway. I like reload speed and maniacs.

[hidden timber]

carapace any good or nah?

[gusty crane]

I'm not sure it saves you a bullet. But haven't tried. I use my powersword for that.

[celest vine]

if this thing had the bigger gloves it would be unironically the best veteran set

[junior grail]

Mortis Vet does go hard

[celest vine]

the gloves kill it tho so sticking with penace gear

[river wraith]

chaos spawns are the worst thing in the game i hate them so much

[crude ermine]

I'd rather deal with the evil nutsack than the bullet sponge

[tiny summit]

I did mine at Hab Dreyko before you drop down at the start

I have never seen someone describe the chaos spawn as the evil nutsack

The struggle of an ogryn. Stunlocking gut punch shovel or 1 tapping crusher shovel

[celest vine]

Usually when fatshart does something dumb youre legally required to glitch it back

Like the on overwatch penance

[tidal rapids]

Nice DH spawn

[quaint plover]

i finally completed all the veteran penences!!!!

[tiny summit]

I've seen her on top of allies waiting to be rescued

[tidal rapids]

Happened to me too, except I was the one waiting for rescue

[strange sparrow]

He’s sleeping

Let him be

[thick rose]

worth throwing in the bank? (I have no idea what you want on a shotgun)

[celest vine]

One spot and 6 krak grenades is all it takes

Have an ammo crate with field improv? It cant move now

[crude ermine]

Ok so at least ik the limit on how drunk I can be before becoming deadweight

The limit is 3 drinks

[finite imp]

nice

good

[tidal rapids]

So, I'm swapping out between the eyes for sure but should I swap out sprint or no respite?

[tacit wedge]

I'd say swap out sprint efficiency for Crit chance and betwween the eyes for Infernus

[strange sparrow]

Take 4 and you become negative

[crude ermine]

If I take 4 I'll start pushing trappers and melee bursters

[tidal rapids]

And not say head hunter or deadly accurate?

[crude ermine]

Those would be the preferable blessings for the inf lasgun

HH and DA

[golden nacelle]

Haven't tried a chainaxe really. thoughts?

Swap crit damage for what... flak eh?

but then do I try for headtaker 4 upgrade, or just stick with 3 and go flakiak on the parks?

perks*

[tidal rapids]

So, make do with sprint efficiency and swap out both blessings then

[crude ermine]

Yes, best case scenario it'll be a 3/4

[tidal rapids]

I've got HH 4 and DA 3, hopefully I'll roll out DA 4 in my next round of crafting.

Damn, this was almost perfect.

[crude ermine]

Unfortunate that hadron had to trip you just at the finish line

[tidal rapids]

This gun actually came from Brunt

[potent canyon]

Is the right play to change carapace to maniac?

[golden nacelle]

hmmmmm

are you running shock trooper for ammo?

[finite imp]

Guys I just really like knives. Twirls hair I just think they're neat...

I wanna fuck knives

[golden nacelle]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/scottpilgrim/images/5/50/Knives-film-01.png/revision/latest?cb=20100626182927

[dusty nacelle]

noooo was at the end of a special hardmode karnak on my vet and i ran out of memory somehoww

[finite imp]

twirls hair. Twirls knife

[golden nacelle]

ahdang haha

sooooo... any thoughts on that chainaxe up there guys?

[dusty nacelle]

I've never used chainaxe before

I heard a few months ago that it wasn't good but literally 0 idea if that info is outdated or not now

[terse idol]

Wouldn't swap carapace for anything

Crit chance isn't a good perk

Especially since you're already running surgical 4

[golden nacelle]

yeah, I was thinking swap the crit chance too

[terse idol]

The difference between getting a guranteed crit and having a 4% chance to crit

[golden nacelle]

the surgical will get you way better crit chance anyways

[terse idol]

Just swap Crit chance to maniac

[golden nacelle]

this chainaxe is intersting

[terse idol]

And .... I mean you can try either infernus with surgical or just keep onslaught

[golden nacelle]

its very slow compared to what im used to... but, the activated one shots a crusher

[strange sparrow]

Yeet the Crit chance I argue

[golden nacelle]

yeah, I think that's the concensus

so for my axe though...

[dusty nacelle]

What perks and blessings are best on a devil's claw mk4?

[golden nacelle]

flakiak perks, or swap one perk to flak and upgrade a blessing

[wise fossil]

For a vet? Savage & rampage

[dusty nacelle]

For perks?

[elder dawn]

did i brick this bad boy for vet

[dusty nacelle]

Flak maniac?

[wise fossil]

Take flak + unarmored if you plan on shooting all maniacs or maniac if you wanna melee mutants & flamers

[wise fossil]

Probably same answer as above tbh

[wise fossil]

Seems good, how is it bricked?

[elder dawn]

just wondering if it was bad

[dusty nacelle]

Got it tyy

[golden nacelle]

yeah, so you think getting flak/maniac or flak/unarmored is better than upgrading headtaker 3 to 4?

[wise fossil]

Uncanny is the good one for sure. Flesh tearer is good but so is precog

[junior needle]

Unyielding isn't the best perk wise, uncanny is #1 blessing. Vet unfortunately doesn't get enough crit to make flesh tearer shine so most don't use that. More appropriate on zealot which has massive crit synergy and can get like double the crit or more compared to vet.

[hidden timber]

the columus mk 5 is the good one right?

[dusty nacelle]

Not the greatest butttt this'll do for nowww

[wise fossil]

Probably yeah. Iirc there's not a huge difference between 3 & 4

[elder dawn]

i did just roll this

[wise fossil]

Good what?

[hidden timber]

autogun

mb

[elder dawn]

uncanny to precog, and melee damage to flak?

errr lacerate to precog

[radiant chasm]

oh okay

carry on templar

[junior needle]

The play for that would be:

Elites>flak
Lacerate (trap blessing)>something else

I like riposte over precog.

[elder dawn]

[wise fossil]

Yeah, Columnus IAG is great

[radiant chasm]

executor is good too, and if youa re going +1 bleed stack on hit, mercy killer isn't bad either

[elder dawn]

navy seal vet incoming

knife revolver

[junior needle]

Bad thing about executor is that it drops all stacks if you hit a non-weakspot, which happens a lot

[radiant chasm]

riposte is worse than both executor and precog

[junior needle]

It can get you more cleave in hordes though

[radiant chasm]

they fixed most of it

[junior needle]

They fixed it dropping when your bleed stacks tick

[radiant chasm]

it stacks up better and power is just a stupid boost

[junior needle]

But it still drops on non-weakspot hits last I checked

[elder dawn]

somehow precog is the only blessing i dont have

wtf

[wise fossil]

Riposte is much better on zealot for sure

[junior needle]

You can test them out to see what you like best, lacerate is a definite changer

[elder dawn]

yeah i'll mess with it ty

commando navy seal vet dream will not die this day

[quaint plover]

i rolled this

[junior needle]

Tac axe, unfortunate

Hope they get buffed down the line

Very curious perk choice

[quaint plover]

i also rolled power cycler IV

[elder dawn]

bro not one of these rolled prcog 😭 wtf

fuck you fat fish

[quaint plover]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-win-in-amongus-frog-pog-frog-pogfrog-pog-gif-17564123306311240582

[wise fossil]

Great roll. Never seen a non-zealot run TAC axe but good luck

[quaint plover]

honestly im loving it

[junior needle]

Zealots dont even run tac axe anymore

[wise fossil]

They're honestly not bad, they're just one of the worst options if that makes sense. All the options are pretty good

[junior needle]

Yeah it still drops on non-weakspot hits, which happens a lot even if you're trying your best to aim at head height

[faint perch]

what should i go for on a bolter?

[wise fossil]

Pinning fire is BIS on bolter

Then either surgical or blaze away

[junior needle]

Surgical

[radiant chasm]

surgical for vet

[faint perch]

and for perks?

[radiant chasm]

(i really wish they didn't indirectly nerf shattering)

[faint perch]

how did they nerf it?

[radiant chasm]

stacks differently

or somethign i forgot exactly but zealot chat been complaining about it

[wise fossil]

Maniac & Unyielding

[junior needle]

Tried the tac axes in the psyk

These movesets are incredibly goofy

How does anyone get anything done

[raw steppe]

crit

[wise fossil]

Tac axe Bros are built different I guess 🤷‍♂️
(I agree the moveset is odd)

[radiant chasm]

crying

[radiant chasm]

taxe just hasn't recovered from the BM rework unlike every other weapon who just likes it more

(heavy sword in the corner going OH BOY I can one shot 4 elites in one swing now !!!!)

[junior needle]

Like damn, this is just knife but worse because it doesn't have uncanny

And it's more awkward

[radiant chasm]

basically yea, it can't even hit into armor like a combat axe

the heavies do not hit armor well and I think the heavies at least should

[tranquil bronze]

Should I just take knife over taxe?

[formal rock]

Is Born Leader worth getting?
If I shout and restore my entire bar (~175 toughness), I'll be restoring 15% x (175 + 50) = 33.75 + 50 = ~83 toughness to my section mates, but otherwise 15% seems a tad low for the other toughness regen talents. Am I underestimating the effect it has through passive regen?

[radiant chasm]

yes imo, they are both high crit, fast swinging weapons

[tranquil bronze]

Thank god I got a knife that just slaps

[junior needle]

Not as good on vet as it is on zealot but I'd definitely take a knife over a tac axe on vet too

Would recommend taking off unyielding for flak though

[terse idol]

Well I mean

I dunno if VOC applies "twice" with born leader

But I mean

I'm taking a pgun glory hunter, born leader build

With all the toughness share node (1) and the focus target that gives toughness

Its alright if you go hard I feel

I can't tell the performance though

[wise fossil]

I like born leader a lot less than I like covering fire

[formal rock]

Yeah, that's the issue -- I have no idea how much Born Leader actually does, because it's nearly impossible to track during fights.
Wish Scoreboard Mod had a section specifically for toughness restored to allies.

[formal rock]

Good intuition, hah. I'm stuck choosing between these two atm.

[formal rock]

Mk II is incredibly simple, no? Everything but special is an overhead attack. Spam lights for horde clear, spam heavies for elites and monstrosities, special to stun.

[junior needle]

Not really, the value is quite low and it has a bad habit of being largely redundant when it's actually needed.

[terse idol]

Yeah thats something I noticed

Either someone's at full toughness so it doesn't matter

Orrr they took a billion damage

And that toughness you would give them didn't really matter

And this is me taking every single toughness share node

[formal rock]

That's my suspicion too. Its use-case is hard to maintain during actual fights.
Or maybe it is? It seems complicated to calculate.

[terse idol]

And focus target gives toughness back

[junior needle]

Goofy as in goofy looking, but also using your lights for clear seems very questionable given it's 2 strikedowns and seemingly a diagonal. 2 was supposed to be heavy spam for horde clear given that gives you nonstop diagonals.

[formal rock]

Oh shoot I swapped the two by accident, sorry. Yeah, you're right.

(Although, the attack breakdown does shows every attack as a strikedown, but I suppose vanguard wouldn't really describe it properly either...)

[unborn perch]

How's this?

[glacial yacht]

looks good

[formal rock]

That'll do the job.

[elder dawn]

g o d r o l l

[unborn perch]

I'd trade flak for carapace if I could.

[junior needle]

Posts near perfect godroll with ideal changes already made
hOwS tHis

Vicious slice is pretty useless and the perks aren't great. Keep rampage though

[wise fossil]

Pretty good roll. Vicious > Savage sweep & groaners > flak

IV is usually called the best one, i'm not familiar with the attack patterns of the other one

[dusty nacelle]

Thoughts? 👀

[wise fossil]

Nothing much to say lol

Maniac could be unyielding if you want but not necessary

[spring spindle]

Blessings for the cowboy revolver?

[wise fossil]

Charge rate or damage is probably the best dump stat on plasma tbh

[dusty nacelle]

Wait damage is a potential dump stat on plasma??

[wise fossil]

Not ideal but you're already dishing out huge damage

You won't lose many breakpoints

[spring spindle]

Why charge rate?

[dusty nacelle]

I think it's cuz mostly you want to use the primary fire on the plasma anyways

[junior needle]

Charge rate or damage is probably the best dump stat on plasma
damage
dump stat

[radiant chasm]

what are you smoking

[junior needle]

Damage is most definitely not a dump stat

[radiant chasm]

damage is huge on plasma cause it is a big number

smaller number= damage less important, like on flamer

[junior needle]

It is particular about breakpoints

[radiant chasm]

where it's like 9-11 damage range

[junior needle]

More that flamer mostly does damage through the dot

[radiant chasm]

i'd sya thermal resistance is the dump stat, then ammo,

since you can just vent once, then shoot again

[dusty nacelle]

Also I exclusively used the columnus IAG before i tried out the plasma and god i can't believe I didn't try it out sooner

You can literally just spam it at anything like monstrosities and they just die

[radiant chasm]

875 - 1225 damage range on plasma, (idk how the fuck or where tf games lantern got the numbers for this)

[junior needle]

You can tell on the guns in the inspect screen

[radiant chasm]

yea but im not loading up darktide

im sleepy

[radiant chasm]

dont listen to this person

[dusty nacelle]

u were right

[radiant chasm]

honestly, charge rate and damage are huge for plasma

[dusty nacelle]

or i guess 1155 is the max since you can't hit 100%

[formal rock]

I kinda see where you'd get the reasoning for damage being a dump stat because of how much rending the plasma has, but in reality it's the opposite -- the smaller the ADM, the lower the difference between the low and high end of the damage range. Conversely, a weapon with ~1.0 ADM means that each point of damage difference contributes directly.

[radiant chasm]

stopping power is needed for armor

you dump thermal resistance cause the strat at high charge is to just vent, fire, vent, fire

[dusty nacelle]

Honestly really confusing how they have max stats in the tables for a 100% weapon when it's impossible to get above 80% currently

[formal rock]

It's almost certainly future-proofing for something.

But I agree.

[dusty nacelle]

Is charge rate that important? if so it looks like i'm going to have to farm another plasma

[radiant chasm]

kinda?

Charge Speed: [2 - 1]
Charge Speed: [1 - 0.5]

yea

literally charges twice as fast

[dusty nacelle]

ohh so i'm shooting way slower with the primary fire

[radiant chasm]

or 50% faster

[junior needle]

You aren't, it does it at the same rate.

[formal rock]

It depends on how you use the plasma, but for auric maelstrom, I'd say yes. Infinite-pierce and huge swarms means you want more shots downrage, not tougher ones.

[radiant chasm]

depends on how you do statistics

[dusty nacelle]

Are u sure? I just checked and it says hip fire charge rate

which i'm assuming is primary fire

[radiant chasm]

fatshark stats are stupids tbh

[junior needle]

They supposedly fixed it to make it so that charge rate didn't bullshit your primary fire, but it could've just been making it not affect the damage like it used to.

[radiant chasm]

thermal resist dump-> dump a little bit of ammo

everything else is dps boosting

[junior needle]

It could actually do that or it's a leftover scrap they hadn't changed

[tranquil bronze]

How's this so far?

Would Decimator do well for shovel?

[radiant chasm]

You want uncanny strike

Is that old shovel or new shovel

[tranquil bronze]

New

Nothing's been changed

[radiant chasm]

New variant

Or old variant

There is at least 2 shovel variants now

[tranquil bronze]

This is the one with a mode switch

[radiant chasm]

Does the special action give you the funny stab attack

[tranquil bronze]

Yes

[radiant chasm]

Id sya keep limbsplitter and put on uncanny for thrust

Since vet doesnt really wanna use time charging a heavy swing

Then change weakspot

[vivid current]

I would like to see Vet get some explosive weapons instead of just grenades.

[radiant chasm]

If carapace lets you one shot crushers or 2shot id go for that

If not flak is a great choice

Uncanny just best blessing

[thick wolf]

m203 on an autogun or lasgun

[junior needle]

They only fixed it affecting damage so charge rate would help with the speed of left clicks

They didn't make it a uniform charging speed like I thought

Just a uniform charge level

[thick wolf]

jokes aside, I guess technically the bolter is somewhat of an explosive weapon?

[tranquil bronze]

It does turn enemies into mist

[vivid current]

Did they nerf the speed of power sword?

[tranquil bronze]

What would be a better alternative to BM for taxe?

[round yacht]

Does this stop gunners from staggering me and messing with my aim?

[thick wolf]

I think

[tranquil bronze]

Just stops messing with aim

Stagger is still a huge problem

[round yacht]

So i still cant move properly but can aim properly if im being gunned down?

Using the "determined" talent?

[radiant chasm]

Mk3 yes

[vivid current]

no, suppression effects your accuracy. It makes return fire more difficult.

getting behind cover or having suppression immunity removes the effect, making return fire out in the open viable.

[round yacht]

Oh so i still get pushed back and such but my aim stays steady?

[radiant chasm]

Yes

[round yacht]

Nice nice ill try it out thanks!

[vivid current]

yes. nothing is going to stop a billion bullets turning you into swiss and pressed into a wall.

but you can shoot back at least.

[round yacht]

Yea im thinking the toughness regen can keep me alive while still taking shots

[vivid current]

There is a blessing between the eyes that makes you immune to ranged attacks for 1 second each time you hit a weakspot.

[radiant chasm]

Not that one that is suppression immune

[pale smelt]

think its called Ghost or something

[radiant chasm]

Yee ghost

Also just getting a weapon that kills shooters/gunners fast and your regen talents

[vivid current]

I use this on my las pistol, so long as I'm shooting the head on someone I can freely move around under heavy fire.

For that I just run Infernus rank 4. each hit on a weakspot adds 3 stacks of fire to a maximum of 10 stacks.

keeping the damage up between reloads and swapping to melee at least for the build I use outweights any flat damage buff I could apply.

[radiant chasm]

Infernus is on crit

Not on weakspot? Unless i missed a patch note

I might have

[vivid current]

ah bollacks, your right. Its on critical hit.

tho that isn't very hard considering it shoots pretty quickly.

[radiant chasm]

Infernus is on crit and without crit talents ehh it is alright

[vivid current]

I personally found it very helpful compared to flat damage.

[radiant chasm]

Id rather go dum dum and ghost

Burn damage is small

Esoecially on low stacks

And las pistol hits hard

Youll kill all but the beefiest targets with just shooting their head

Go dum dum for scaling damage and ghost to be immune to both ranged fire and suppression (if you have suppression immune talent)

[vivid current]

dum dum?

[radiant chasm]

6% damage increase for each repeated hit

In close range but close range is like, 15 meters? Maybe 20

Stacks up to 30% damage

[delicate rivet]

Do u have to use an ADS weapon for “Determined” to work?

[radiant chasm]

Oh and dont stack between the eyes and determined

[radiant chasm]

Shouldnt be? Not too familiar with vet jank

[fresh grail]

Suppression my beloved. The ones players apply to gunners

Its the best anti range CC (when running a high supression gun like autoguns)

[vivid current]

I'm having a big problem with auto guns right now

their just not optimal for me

[fresh grail]

Fair enough

Always have to find a gun that fits your playstyle first and foremost

[vivid current]

I can't swap fast enough and auto gun doesn't do enough stagger to be worth, always getting hit by dogs

[thick wolf]

which talents suit best for autoguns like CIAG

aka space ak

[thick wolf]

you can try the headhunter variants I think

[dusty nacelle]

Finesse is really important on dclaws right?

[placid portal]

ye

[fresh grail]

The agri braced autoguns are great dog euthanizers. Though Braced autogun puts you in a very different playstyle to sniper vets of course.

[placid portal]

If a weapon has finesse stat, get that capped for bonus Weakpoint and Crit damage

[thick wolf]

those are the inf lasgun equivalents for autoguns

[placid portal]

[radiant chasm]

There is 3 types of autoguns with 3 variants each

[thick wolf]

headhunter I mean

[radiant chasm]

Which one you having problems with

[thick wolf]

now if only the headhunter has a red dot sight

[radiant chasm]

Vraks3 is such a fun burst rifle and vraks 7 is blessed dmr

[placid portal]

You could with mods

vrak 7 do be a fun DMR

[radiant chasm]

I prefer the vraks 3 just cause of the cracked deadly accurate+ headhunter blessing combo

[placid portal]

I like mk7 vrak because I just don't vibe with burst fire weapons

[radiant chasm]

I shortcut

I download full automod

So my holding down m1 reads as if im continuously clicking while holding down

Saves my fingers

[junior grail]

Many have

[fresh grail]

One of the mods that should be an ingame setting tbh

This game gonna be spreading so much arthritis

[junior needle]

There's much more than one that should be baseline

[fresh grail]

yes i agree, barter at hadron is my other must-have

[serene sage]

here are all the ones I have I think

[crude ermine]

This looks like a bucket list

[serene sage]

actually i shouldn't say that

[spark helm]

anyone got some cool podcast shit or something

no chud shit pls

need something to be bored enough to sleep. melatonin not doing it this time.

:/

[serene sage]

uhh anthropocene reviewed

[serene sage]

oh yeah its excellent for sleeping

[fresh grail]

What does reveal_blessings do, if i might ask? I've not seen it before

[serene sage]

you know how Hadron hides the blessings you don't have?

[tranquil bronze]

So my Vet told an Ogryn that Grey Ogryns don't exist...

[serene sage]

reveal blessings just grey them out instead

[fresh grail]

Aah, that does sound very handy

[serene sage]

so you don't have to ask yourself does Antax have BM4

you can just look

[fresh grail]

No need to open an extra google page every time lol. Yeah i might get that one

[thick rose]

I put mythbusters on my phone. cant quite see it, cant quite hear it, just interesting enough to stop me thinking about anything else.

fall asleep in 3mins every night

[spark helm]

fair enough

my sleep has just been fucked up so hard.

@_@

[dim niche]

Loose Cannon Veterans be like

[placid portal]

Defense Pattern... Ugh Forget it

[thick wolf]

relatable

memorizing shit is a pain in the ass

[placid portal]

Loose cannon didn't become veteran from memorizing all these things like Professional, he just acts and shoots anything that isn't human or spikey

[thick wolf]

Traxis uhhhh ah screw it IT'S A FUCKING TRAPPER

[thick wolf]

40k xenophobic moment

[fossil basalt]

Traxis twelve?
confidently Yeah traxis twelve!
(It was not traxis twelve)

[thick wolf]

kinda surprising that The Professional doesn't try correcting him about it

man just left him completely unmemorized

[fossil basalt]

All I know is ah luv me galoot

[vernal harbor]

hot join into an auric run at the literal first area of the map with 2 of them needing rescued and the last mid death

yelling at eachother

just leave

pray for whatever happened to never happen to me

[fresh grail]

https://tenor.com/view/the-darkest-timeline-community-gif-18212973

[tiny summit]

just did a plasma VoC game after playing with nothing but helbores and infantry las for the past 2 weeks. Holy fuck did I forget how dumb the game can get with it. Like really? There are people that dont consider this thing overtuned?

[thick wolf]

let me guess

the one hellbore user is just shanking heretics with the bayonet

[tiny summit]

what?

[thick wolf]

the alt fire of it being just a bayonet attack

[tiny summit]

Ive just been using helbores and infantry las for the past few weeks and forgot how easy plasma is

[thick wolf]

ironically I have worse aim when I use the plasma gun

simply by virtue of being too conditioned in precise shots of the infantry las

if no weakpoint hitmarker then dopamine not filling my brain

[wanton dawn]

I got called out for not handling ranged threat by a low level ogryn again. I think i am starting to see a pattern here...

[thick wolf]

I need to refine my ia lasgun further, find a better roll for it

[sharp ember]

how come every single shooter isn’t dead before i sprint into the room with my clob

[wanton dawn]

Twas gunlubber

[sharp ember]

[thick wolf]

I need to refine my revolver build now that I relegated my old generalist build as one

[sick marsh]

What vet skins are people using rn?

[opal dove]

The scion helmet is on fire rn. The rest is a bit of everything.

Cool design and cool voice modulator.

[wanton dawn]

And i realized that a bunch of good solo pubs is often better than standard group

[placid portal]

Munitorum cap

Best Free Cosmetic

[sick marsh]

But it looks good with nothing.

[opal dove]

No if you know what to wear

[sharp ember]

it would look great with the cadian flak suit, if we had the green version and not the red one

[thick wolf]

how so?

[sick marsh]

Comissairy cosmetics look crap with it, and literally all recolour mods lose automatically.

[thick wolf]

I mean my experience with rando pubs has been surprisingly alright for the most part, but them being better than a standard group?

[sharp ember]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1196735559515779102/image.png?ex=65b8b5d7&is=65a640d7&hm=c35e233e1329ecd338b407d86dd36ded0b1065f7f1e882c29b0e4225703cbf30&

[wanton dawn]

Cuz good solo pubs take the heat unto them instead of relying on their mate to offset their bad fundament1ls

[opal dove]

There are a couple armor sets from the "free" vendor and the snow pants from the last cosmetic bundle combine pretty well with it.

[thick wolf]

I desire to grab either the white uniform or the desert camo one

[sick marsh]

Best cosmetic in the game is still the steel legion one.

That hasn’t changed, and won’t for some time.

[wanton dawn]

I never got called out for my gameplay IG by ppl carrying

So yeah, i am a bit annoyed

Not above calling out ppl walking on the pinged dh though

[thick wolf]

me everytime I yell at them to heal in medicae, grab ammo when they're running low or grenade

the amount of pubs I notice just ignoring medicae is slowly increasing

like dude, grab the medicae you need it more than I do

[sharp ember]

awkward when a squadmate yells at the team but says i’m the only good one because i promptly rescue them whenever they get downed/dogged/netted using frag grenades to clear

and i haven’t spoken the whole match

[opal dove]

Between you and me, commissar cosmetics looks very bad. The jacket is huge, the hat looks like is made by a bad cosplayer, not even a scracht. It looks like a prop from a costume party. Pants are ok, but the white line on the sides kills everything.

[thick wolf]

I can assume those were outsourced

[sick marsh]

Comissairy man.

[thick wolf]

commisar cosmetic I mean

in the commissary's defense, not all of the recolors veteran has looks bad

[opal dove]

Yeah, those where pretty cool. Krieg, the scion helmet (imo), and that prosthetic leg from a few weeks ago.

[sharp ember]

love overfilling me ammo when teammates aren’t bothering to look for them or come back when i ping it

[sick marsh]

Comissary. Idk why it auto corrects me

[wanton dawn]

Then someone call you a god for soloing plogryn in a horde and am like: "dude, this is auric maelstrom. I have a Ps"

[thick wolf]

my current drip rn is a mixture of penance cosmetic and commissary

[opal dove]

Ah! You mean the shop. Sorry, I don't have the game in English. There are some sets that look cool, not everything looks bad.

[sick marsh]

Leg is eh, krieg was a bit underwhelming for vet.

[sick marsh]

No, but I don’t think anything there is any good at all with scion helmet

[thick wolf]

hell I can cosplay as a five dollar budget doomguy with the commissary cosmetics

[opal dove]

I do. Trust me, I tried everything because I hate* that cadian green. There are a few pieces that fit with the helmet 👍

[thick wolf]

and iirc, the penance cosmetics don't really have this long glove option like this one

[sick marsh]

Looks fine as sets on their own, not with premium cosmetics combined in tho.

[sick marsh]

Not very well.

[thick wolf]

at the same time though

the commissary also don't have variants of the final on target penance cosmetic award

which is the guardsman helmet with the gasmask

[opal dove]

This is with the Krieg jacket and the snow pants from the past cosmetic shop set.

[thick wolf]

i.e. veteran cover art helmet

[sick marsh]

Steel div jacket looks decent with it, those legs are a good fit. But not proper top sadly

[opal dove]

Well, it's a matter of opinions at the end. For me there are sets that fit with that horrible green, but obviosuly is not a perfect combination. They should release the full scion armor.

There is a cosmetic you would insta-buy? For me that would be Tanith stuff

[zealous wyvern]

that is the armageddon steel legion, not krieg

but the mix of super super hightech and ww2 jacket disturbs me a little

tbf i think unless you know they look like this, its easier to make a set

once you know this is their whole gear though, its hard to just wear it with some jacket imo

they are the super elite shocktroopers with amazing gear

[opal dove]

My bad. Steel Legion jacket 👍

[thick wolf]

So currently, who's the closest class that you can wear to resemble their cover art appearance

[jaunty cloud]

isnt that what a krieg is

[zealous wyvern]

no

because none of their armour looks hightech

i meant looks

[opal dove]

These are the free sets that fit with the scion helmet. There are some penance jackets (which I hate, because the jacket goes under the pants and is horrible) and some other stuff, but those are the best fits. Is not perfect, but it works.

[zealous wyvern]

their gear is partially very advanced true but it looks vintage anyway

[opal dove]

I like it. Is better in movement. For me, that's Warhammer 40k at the end.

[jaunty cloud]

oh yeah i forgot their masks arent like glowie or anything

[zealous wyvern]

the armour plates are hidden by the coat

the respirator is super hightech, feeding perfect mixtures of oxygen at all times

[jaunty cloud]

i think theres better fits if youre going with that specific helmet

[zealous wyvern]

but it all looks pretty basic from the outside

although their eyes do glow red in some paintjobs

i dont like that though

and all official warhammer cutscenes leave the lenses dark as i prefer

i think the only set from commissary that goes with scion is the maxarmoured green gear but its still a reach

the only outfit i really liked with it randomly was last rotations bundle vet

[jaunty cloud]

god youre right

that brig jacket looks so good til you see its tucked in

[zealous wyvern]

whats wrong with tucking your shirt in

its a uniform

[jaunty cloud]

it looks stupid

tucking a jacket in looks dumb as hell

[opal dove]

There are. I tried everything I have. Now I'm wearing the shooter's punishment (free shop) on top and the snowy pants (green) from the last cosmetic bundle and It looks very cool. Not mindblowing, but cool.

[jaunty cloud]

yeahhh thats about the closest to looking like the helmet itself

[opal dove]

It looks very bad. And is not a shirt... Is a leather jacket with some cloth piece covering the neck. It looks quite bad.

Not by it self, but with whatever pants you put on

[jaunty cloud]

the cash shop ones have free flowing jackets too they really just didnt want to let vets look cool for free

[opal dove]

They dont want the vet look cool in general xD Ogryn always win.

[zealous wyvern]

the tucked in part is a shirt, not the thick part visible on shoulders arms etc

[jaunty cloud]

ogryns shop sets are way too good for what i want from ogryn

[zealous wyvern]

you can tell by the colour sometimes being different from all other components

[umbral scaffold]

Lord Darius Melk provides

[jaunty cloud]

i think youre mistaking the outfit

[zealous wyvern]

me?

[jaunty cloud]

yeah this one

[zealous wyvern]

oh

i thought

the commissary ones

[jaunty cloud]

yeah sorry i shoulda specified

[zealous wyvern]

nevermind then

thats weird, you sure its tucked in and not just ending there?

[opal dove]

Yeah, I was about to put a picture too. It goes under. It's a crime againts Humanity.

[jaunty cloud]

LMFAO

[zealous wyvern]

huh

weird choice

[jaunty cloud]

i dont know what they were thinking

[opal dove]

The other two leather jackets we have are: the commissar jacket and the carnival/gang jacket. Let me tell you... You put those on and you look like a whale on leather. Thery are huge. You like like a Frankenstein monster running around.

They should look heavy, I get it, but the proportions are off. Commissar set is quite awfull in general. I hate that perfect fake hat without even a scratch. Imagine being a commissar and looking like you are in a cheap costume party.

[zealous wyvern]

the cadian tank jacket isnt tucked

i have it

used to run it with steel legion helmet until krieg released

[opal dove]

The tank pilot one you mean? That one is cool, yep

[zealous wyvern]

that one

[pastel geode]

I’m loving the winter jacket despite the clipping issues

[zealous wyvern]

i really dont like the commissar jacket

its way too chunky

[opal dove]

Yeah, too big. Veteran looks like Frankenstain monster from behind.

[pastel geode]

The hive one I think is better than the commissar jacket honestly.

[opal dove]

The jewels of the crown in veteran cosmetics are those weird head towels and the dirty head bandage. Don't have pictures atm. They charge money for those. I bought the head bandage and immediately afterwards I thought what was happening with my life.

[zealous wyvern]

lol

true

i bet they release a blue scion set soon and the green version everyone bought will just be wasted money

[opal dove]

Then you see that awfull orange skull in the back and is game over. It looks way too big anyways. Leather jackets are XXXXXXL size in this game.

[zealous wyvern]

that will be their scummiest sale yet

[opal dove]

Of course 😂

[dusty sluice]

whats the best iag (thats not the columnus)

[zealous wyvern]

columnus

[opal dove]

I got to say I'm loving the helmet. Found a good outfit and I'm loving it. But yeah, if they put that scion set out the green helmet is over.

[dusty sluice]

i want to try the others tbh

[zealous wyvern]

just do that then

id assume both are fine

i love agripinaa because its just so big

like an lmg

almost

[pastel geode]

I always use the collectors edition backpack or the Vox aster to hide it. For the hive one it at least makes sense that it’s chunky cause you know a hive ganger would reinforce the shit out of their favorite jacket

[dusty sluice]

whats the heavy mk?

[pastel geode]

Plus you can see there’s a flak vest tucked under the coat

[zealous wyvern]

heavy mk?

[dusty sluice]

of iags

[zealous wyvern]

like slow

[opal dove]

Yeah, I did that for a while. And you are right, gang life is dangerous and they need some body protection, but it looks way too big for my taste.

[zealous wyvern]

big dmg

[dusty sluice]

ye

[zealous wyvern]

i dont know sadly

agri LOOKS heavy but isnt all that heavy

so maybe graia

[white minnow]

the agri has the slowest fire rate of the IAGs

[zealous wyvern]

check brunt maybe you can find attack rate inspecting one

thank you

[pastel geode]

Agripinna is highest damage high recoil, used to love running it in previous patches. Graia I personally don’t have a lot of playtime with so not sure how well it performs

[white minnow]

graia and agri have the same DPS and ADMs, so they differ in damage per shot and rate of fire