veteran-class

[strange sparrow]

You’re dumping 3 point to lose out on melee option entirely for next 5 seconds

[serene sage]

or ammo reload (even if partially)

[midnight totem]

Executioner stance should highlight all ranged enemies by default

[muted knot]

There's one option overshadowing the other 2 by miles

[midnight totem]

Save a node

[serene sage]

to be fair, exec stance clean house in hallway fights

[tiny summit]

Gonna run the toughness battery vet

[terse idol]

actually true, it'd help if it gave you toughness

[midnight totem]

Just like Infiltrate should increase damage or drop aggro for x seconds by default, save a node

[strange sparrow]

The value for Exec stance right now is the information feedback

[serene sage]

like you pop exec stance and clear room in like 30s

[strange sparrow]

The wall hack

[serene sage]

it sucks in events and hordes

[terse idol]

It does hepl you meet BP's

If uh

[umbral scaffold]

classic vet exec stance had a reload + toughness regen so you could raidboss it

[terse idol]

you don't have em

[tiny summit]

Weakness. Don't give me toughness.

[strange sparrow]

Very certain hitpoint that you should already baked into your gun

[terse idol]

It's the whole

[serene sage]

but then again, it's in a state where it's "balanced" enough that I doubt FS would do anything

[strange sparrow]

The only BP in the back of my mind was -1 against crusher

With Hellbore family

[muted knot]

Fuck all those proposals, let me switch to melee without stopping it

[umbral scaffold]

Exec stance either needs to make you tankier
or make enemies easier to kill since nothing is stopping you from just going VOC and killing everything but safer too lol

[terse idol]

highlight shooters, which does synergize well with marksmens focus

[spark helm]

Hard disagree on the events part but I'm usually fine in hordes either way.

[terse idol]

Giving you toughness rep

[serene sage]

though nerfing Plasma and buff Exec Stance in compensation would be fair but reddit will cry about it

[strange sparrow]

Please stop advocating for MF unless you’re using V7

The value of MF was surprising low

[spark helm]

but that's with solid melee options usually in my case.

[serene sage]

not really?

[tiny summit]

More likely to nerf VoC and vets doomposting

[muted knot]

What's MF ?

[spark helm]

marksman focus

[muted knot]

Ah

[umbral scaffold]

Remember when VoC got nerfed by 50 toughness

[tiny summit]

MF good

[umbral scaffold]

and all the reddit vets were like

"WE'RE GONNA DIE"

[spark helm]

good

[umbral scaffold]

"WE'RE SO SQUISHY NOW"

[serene sage]

75% finesse is wild

[muted knot]

I mean they will

[strange sparrow]

We tested it out on C5 with 2.7x WS Crit remember

[umbral scaffold]

" I CAN'T HAVE 1 BILLION TOUGHNESS"

[serene sage]

I feel it

[umbral scaffold]

😭

[strange sparrow]

Along with 40% Crit rate

[tiny summit]

My friend was really annoyed and I'm like...bruh. 100 was like ridiculous

[strange sparrow]

To end up having less than 3 bullet apart

[serene sage]

I'm vehemently against running autoguns for MF

[umbral scaffold]

Right
and if there's 2 vets in the game you still hit 100

[serene sage]

it's stupid

[strange sparrow]

It’s also pretty low on Hellbore

[spark helm]

the stereotypical redditor can't fathom any world in whatever game where their ideas don't require invincibilities of some kind of to compensate for their inability to adapt.

[tiny summit]

I think too many people have ego problems too. I think you should expect a fair bit of failure on the highest difficulty of games.

[strange sparrow]

Hellbore have bad finesse but I’m not sure about the number

[muted knot]

Shit most days you have a relic zealot in your team too

[strange sparrow]

The value only come in when you use Vraks family

[serene sage]

instead of thinking DPS, think breakpoints tbh

[spark helm]

Main reason why they can't play fighting games.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[untold mulch]

I got 150 overtoughness the run I got make every shot count

[serene sage]

cause Agri shotty can hit breakpoints with it

[muted knot]

What breakpoints do you hit for Hellbore ?

[strange sparrow]

Not a lot, only hard hitting target need BP

[serene sage]

Bolter can also hit BPs on it

[twilit breach]

Bro I've tried the helbore so many times

[strange sparrow]

You could reach 1hit BP against most of the stuff with Hellbore mk2

[tiny summit]

Fighting games are for everyone...except for their egos and mindset

[serene sage]

and yeah, the headhunter series loves MF

[muted knot]

Most fun vet gun imo

[twilit breach]

I cannot get the feel of it

[strange sparrow]

The problem is FT serve better value rn

[spark helm]

No patch will tech that tick throw.

[twilit breach]

I hate it lol

[tiny summit]

1 tapping ragers with the mk2 feels good though

[tall torrent]

Which helbore

[strange sparrow]

Because it increase based damage

[twilit breach]

The vraks is my go to sniper

[serene sage]

no shame, I hate it, too

[strange sparrow]

[twilit breach]

Mark 3

[serene sage]

I just don't vibe with las guns, period

[muted knot]

Did you try Mk3 cause that one is meh

Yeah try mark 1

[serene sage]

stupid fucking flashlights

[muted knot]

Mark 1 is bae

[spark helm]

v_v

[cerulean void]

y'think they'll buff the KanXII?

[tiny summit]

Playing Ky in GGST. Man does throwing people with Ky get people peeved

[sterile wadi]

I heard someone say Lasgun

[strange sparrow]

But seriously, I still hope they give better value in the left tree right now

[sterile wadi]

Recon Lasgun anyone

[strange sparrow]

Better Value with Exec

And better value on MF

[muted knot]

You right we didn't have a recon argument in a few minutes

[tiny summit]

Helbores fun. Favorite gun and way to play atm

[muted knot]

Recon best gun in the game

[sterile wadi]

happy to help

[twilit breach]

Mg 12 my beloved

[untold mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/potemkin-guilty-gear-gif-20455643

[twilit breach]

I'll try the mark 1

[spark helm]

I haven't fucked with ggst in a minute but that shit is mad funny. in some ff14 discord or something I played against some dude that was real confident in their millia.

My mans was mixing ghosts.

[cerulean void]

it has the most superior SFX

[untold mulch]

My only memory

of Strive

[serene sage]

headshots reload your gun

[twilit breach]

What blessings

[spark helm]

Lost each set

[tiny summit]

Possibly. Or it's just forgotten. Or they nerf the others

[tall torrent]

I’d recommend mk1 or mk2
Mk1 is easier to roll for

[untold mulch]

Getting potemkin'ed

[spark helm]

decisively.

[strange sparrow]

Based af

[muted knot]

Surgical/onslaught

[twilit breach]

Kk

[spark helm]

because dude was rotating mixups that don't mean shit to someone not scared of a threeway .

[cerulean void]

y'think if they add cleave to it it'll get too close to Helbore territory?

[strange sparrow]

Headshot at max stack give you help you reload 1% of your reserve into your magazine

[spark helm]

Lesson: defend against your own setplay please.

[strange sparrow]

Suddenly S tier

[serene sage]

huh what? threeways? what

[twilit breach]

Should I only charge helbore for specials?

[muted knot]

No always charge

[cerulean void]

depends on the mark

[tiny summit]

I wish I recorded the game but this millia was trying to be slick by super jumping in the corner and trying to turbo fall PRC out. Right after the pause there was a moment of me peeking at the bottom of the screen like "hello there" threw them for the kill.

[serene sage]

and so we can now hold m1 just like the top image on the talent tree suggests

[spark helm]

If you not being sarcastic threeway mix is a concept in fighting games for certain genres within.

[strange sparrow]

Fr, just stand still and become a machine gun build

[serene sage]

i don't play fgs

[spark helm]

You can be forced to possibnly defense against high,low, left and right in a variety of timings and repititions.

And then I made the threeway joke because well

yeah

[serene sage]

I feel like I don't have enough experience with the controller or twitch reaction to play it

[spark helm]

group clapping is fun

[twilit breach]

You're clapping entire groups damn

[spark helm]

you don't really need twitchy reactions in a lot of fighting games depending on what you're doing.

[muted knot]

Damn

[spark helm]

mostly familiarity with scenarios and then whatever else you need to do to stay on top of what you're trying to do.

so long experience carries you further in a lot of cases sometimes.

[muted knot]

My problem with fighting games always was the inputs

Yes I know I'm a casual

[untold mulch]

Same, my hands mess up the combo inputs

also low quality controller

[tiny summit]

Depends on your rolls and which one. With the right rolls and talents you can 1 tap most of all the chaff in the head

[untold mulch]

Though playing Zato is fun

[strange sparrow]

I dislike fighting games because I don’t have arcade controller

[tall torrent]

U should charge helbore all the time
This is mk2

[serene sage]

i get my happy brain chemicals from these types of games by being able to press buttons and perform combos
I love beat em up games because it's easy to combos enemies
MHW is also fun when you can perform combos

[untold mulch]

I didn't expect for me to like Zato playstyle in GG

[spark helm]

DMC, Ninja Gaiden, Bayonetta, Nier:Automata, God Hand, Sifu are my speeds for character action.

I love that shit so much.

[muted knot]

Mhw is super fun I jumped back in now that fucking everybody is doing it

[serene sage]

like Gunlance is so fun when you can Up Thurst - Slam - Full Burst - Swipe -Fast Reload - Slam -... x infinity

[tiny summit]

I learned fighting games with Strive. Thought I would never get the DP input down. It's like riding a different kind of bike. If you can play Damn+ you can learn fighting games

[muted knot]

What

[spark helm]

so my fighting game experience just makes so much more immediately there in my hands for character action games. shit funny

[raw steppe]

i heard GB is really good

[twilit breach]

I'll give it a try then

[raw steppe]

from my FG friend

[muted knot]

How does anything about damn+ translate to fgs ?

[raw steppe]

i dont play fighting games

[serene sage]

mostly just Fight n Rage, that one really good ninja turtle beat em up, and MHW for me

in term of "combo" games

[tiny summit]

Controllers are fine. I like my snackbox micro

[spark helm]

YO whatever that shredder revenge shit is FUCKS

I love that game.

[serene sage]

oh yeah that's the one

[muted knot]

I'm a casual man, SnS and hammer is my bread and butter

[serene sage]

Shredder Revenge

[twilit breach]

Bro I'm loving the fan the hammer

[idle swallow]

I suck at Tekken but I do like playing it every now and then

[spark helm]

I have world but haven't played a lot of it. more into rise

[tiny summit]

If you are able to learn how to plan damn+ to a certain degree I have full confidence you are able to learn fighting games.

[twilit breach]

Revolver my beloved

[serene sage]

im just getting started as well but im getting the hang of the gun

[spark helm]

Space control, defensive reactions, I'd say are enough.

[muted knot]

Heavy or light ?

[serene sage]

I just need to learn monster and timing better, but im rarely messing up my combo, and can mix up sometimes

[serene sage]

sorry, gunlance

[muted knot]

Ah

[serene sage]

normal shell

though wide and long are not that much different

[muted knot]

I've played a bunch of bowguns and charge axe

Both fun

But bowguns just don't do it for me

[cerulean void]

it seems like every time I look away from this chat it turns back to Monster Hunter

[tiny summit]

It's just a different kind of game so obviously there's gonna be a learning curve. If you can learn Tide games at their high levels, you can definitely learn fighting games. All about expectations and mindset while learning

[strange sparrow]

Darktide is a fight dancing game less so compared to VT2

[serene sage]

I guess Hades is also fun buttom smash game

[muted knot]

Charge axe is what I aim for once I'm back in the saddle

[serene sage]

combos exists for certain weapons, but they are very simple

[twilit breach]

Butt

[strange sparrow]

I quote how some people describe this game and VT2

The game have a structured danceflow to how to deal with specific type of scenario

[spark helm]

It uh, it's something for sure. I haven't gotten to playing a lot of the new one but I'd say it's a better experience compared to the original version of the game. healthier roster of characters to play with and perform solidly as.

It's also really nice for people with far less experience in the genre for its approachability in a way that I don't think takes away from the learning experience much.

Some fighting games go about it kinda ehh imo

[serene sage]

well another thing im concerned about is that I get hyper competitive about it
not fun for me

[raw steppe]

i dont play FGs lol

[strange sparrow]

DT kinda tune that down a bit but it is still an important aspect

[raw steppe]

they just not my jam

[serene sage]

i have to stop soloQ ranked League cause I have bad mental

[tiny summit]

Oh definitely. But anyone playing Damn+ I have no question their ability to learn. The bar is even lower but if you already here, at that point it's a mindset and time to learn thing

[spark helm]

it's all good, just talking about it since me like fight game.

[tiny summit]

Tekken 8 approaching!

[spark helm]

If you already approach games, let alone any hobby or skill as a sort of journey of constant practice, the sting of loss is easier to handle before the ego shits itself imo.

[idle swallow]

Lea*ue 🤮🤮🤮

[strange sparrow]

I feel like Damn+ in Darktide right now is nowhere near Legend/Cata on Vt2

[spark helm]

I like to show off to myself in darktide and vt2.

[serene sage]

https://tenor.com/view/gwen-league-of-legends-foreskin-gif-24779437

snip snip

[strange sparrow]

It's so shallow in DT in term of structured melee dance

[spark helm]

in fighting games, I legit just want to play action figures with people on a screen lmao.

It's what it is in my mind

we just smashing action figures together.

[untold mulch]

My major frustration with Fighting games is when I make a combo and it doesn't happen

I need to get a better controller

[serene sage]

have we all play with plastic figure and just slam them together while making weird noises?

[cerulean void]

Darktide is, for sure, an easier game than Vermintide 2

[tiny summit]

I just want to hit the unoptimal air combo

[untold mulch]

Yes

[spark helm]

bad news if you like certain characters with lkike really really weird interactions.

[serene sage]

like surely im not the only one right?

[spark helm]

lord.

[serene sage]

hell yeah brother

[strange sparrow]

I blame that DT have terrible unit quality compared to VT2

[spark helm]

bread and butter is a suggesstion.

[untold mulch]

Idk if Zato in GGST counts

[spark helm]

He can

[spark helm]

I don't play him yet but that's because my fingers didn't adapt to him yet.

[strange sparrow]

I couldn't fuck with a Gutter Runner in Vt 2

[untold mulch]

My knowledge of fighting games is

funny dude moves fast

this DUDE WILL COMMAND GRAB ME TO OBLIVION

[cerulean void]

yeah I can't wait to get a Blightstormer equiv to get my salad tossed off a ledge a few dozen more times a match ;D

[strange sparrow]

meanwhile any enemy in DT just be like

I-frame I-frame I-frame

[spark helm]

I struggle with hold inputs on gamepads and sitll need to learn my way around uh hitbox

yeah.

[untold mulch]

At some point ignorinmg controller problems

my brain just went full combo with him

[spark helm]

gaming

[cerulean void]

Q: do we have a kohlraki equiv in Darktide?

[twilit breach]

Just a random shooting a barrel and blowing you off a cliff

[untold mulch]

Constantly chaining attacks with Zato and Eddie

So good to do

[strange sparrow]

as long you're abusing Dodge Slide mechanics, there is 80% chance of you dodging any attack in DT right now

[untold mulch]

The moment I learned that Eddie moves were when you released the button

[spark helm]

I actually like characters like Zato a lot when you're on the defensive end of dealing with them.

[dry knoll]

Would you replace brutal momentum or the melee damage bonus here?

[spark helm]

I like feeling a character when I play against them.

[strange sparrow]

I wouldn't

[serene sage]

BM is BiS, don't change it

[cerulean void]

Headcanon: any time I die to a barrel, it's the Warp telling my teammate to shoot the barrel

[twilit breach]

LOL

[tiny summit]

Never listen to zato players. If he isn't the top character they are dooming

[strange sparrow]

Take the Cara instead, it does more

Some people use Maniac too if you hate Rager

[twilit breach]

I think if psykers blow up they should become demonhosts

[strange sparrow]

Not sure about the BP

[spark helm]

Example: Ryu in 3rd strike. This dude is very mid, as in mid of mid in most cases. Nothing special, nothing super intense. But uh...

This fucking karate man from Japan hits like a fucking tru--

OOF

[untold mulch]

Eh, I don't play competitive in any way

Is just time to do funny stickman fighting

[serene sage]

I think Cara lets you reliably hit head poke + love tap and kill a crusher

[spark helm]

Make a mistake hard enough vs 3rd strike ryu? Okay. Lose 30% of your hp and run up that stun gauge. You have three more chances not to show your ass.

[serene sage]

that's about it

[strange sparrow]

I dislike fighting game is that it is a 1 v 1 game

[serene sage]

Maniac lets you one poke head a charging Mutant I think

[spark helm]

For the character I like

[strange sparrow]

Most of the time, I either be getting dumpstered

or having the hardest battle of my life

[tiny summit]

An SF6 player is 1 Ryu gorilla moment away from making a doompost tweet

[strange sparrow]

Tekken 6 teach me that a lot

[spark helm]

I got this one dude on my steam friends list that just

[dry knoll]

maniac probably better overall then, as i'll melee crushers far less often than ragers and mutants

thanks all

[serene sage]

fair

[spark helm]

idk what it is I'm doing but bro just packs me tf up when we play sets with they ryu

I don't know what's going on

lmao

[untold mulch]

My fav moment was playing with a friend MKX?

and we were both reading the other inputs constantly

Dual teleport move exchanging map sides

[tiny summit]

Expectations of Ryu players: calm, collected, stoic, honest footsies

Actual Ryu players: It'd be funny if I tatsu'd round start.

[spark helm]

I love either situation tbh

[twilit breach]

Are you a masochist

[spark helm]

No.

[twilit breach]

Don't answer that actually

[spark helm]

I just like seeing what people can do.

[twilit breach]

I see

[strange sparrow]

I hate getting combo slam into mid-air and getting caught in another combo

[spark helm]

And then adjusting and learning as I can.

[cerulean void]

can MF be used to great efficacy with lasrifles?

[strange sparrow]

then having half my HP gone

[spark helm]

So it's sweeter to break them down.

[cerulean void]

mixed results on most of them

[spark helm]

(just kidding)

[twilit breach]

[spark helm]

Smiles in byakuya setplay

[strange sparrow]

You would be fine with MF

[twilit breach]

Now hold on

[strange sparrow]

It's not that great but it's alright

[tiny summit]

Be the change. You can learn. Most people online are random joes who learned their BnBs

[strange sparrow]

Nah, Im too old for fighting game nowadays

[cerulean void]

I've been trying to make the KanXII work but every time I pick it up the RoF guts me and I swap back to the Ia or the IV

[strange sparrow]

I outgrow the passion to have fun in em

[twilit breach]

Really???

[strange sparrow]

It just doesn't feel the same when you walk into the Arcade, and try to play it

[spark helm]

https://tenor.com/view/street-fighter-street-fighter3third-strike-third-strike-3s-street-fighter3s-gif-22684206

[tiny summit]

Nonsense never too old

[spark helm]

xD

[twilit breach]

The other ones feel weak as shit to me

I can't use anything other than the mark 12

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-marvel-chris-evans-steve-rogers-old-man-gif-14744550

[tiny summit]

Legacy of SF3 is Jwong constantly being reminded of moment 37

[cerulean void]

I find it's easier to get a build to make the Ia closer to the KanXII than it is trying to make the KanXII keep up with the potential the faster firerates bring for the Ia and the IV

[spark helm]

They be up his ASS in twitter about it nowadays

LMAO

[strange sparrow]

I main Hwoarang back then

it's probably the most annoying character imo

[spark helm]

I need to find this post

there's like some model figure ad or whatever literally using the moment for the advertising lmao

[tiny summit]

I saw that one

[spark helm]

okay you know

dawg

leave this man alone!!!

[twilit breach]

I find the pretty consistent damage output of the mark 12 very comfortable as a less ammo hungry vraks

[serene sage]

Sometimes there's also no time.
I have League, Darktide, MHW, StS, Isaac, Brotato, Monster Train, XCOM 2, Remnant 2, W40k Chaos Gate that I want to master...

[spark helm]

I like me TKD man

[serene sage]

We need more than 24h a day 😔

[strange sparrow]

League

[terse idol]

Mastering Xcom 2

[strange sparrow]

time to drop it old man

[spark helm]

I never got into tekken the way I got into most 2d fighters when I changed how I play.

I get my shit pushed in in 3d games.

god...

[twilit breach]

I don't think I've run an optimal mk12 before and I still like two or 3 tap specials

[tiny summit]

Yea time gets all of us. This fucking gun gacha and 5 waifu gachas take my time

[terse idol]

Tekken is insane

[strange sparrow]

Tekken when the guy decided to swap your lane

[spark helm]

I fucking hate 2B in soul calibur

she's not like the end all be all

[strange sparrow]

and you fail your entire combo set

[spark helm]

but i get mad as hell lol

[terse idol]

Tekken

[serene sage]

Yeah bro, legendary ironman is what I consider "mastering"

[terse idol]

but you get knocked up once and are now getting air juggled for 15 minutes

[spark helm]

sounds like tag 2 to me :>

That's a nasty game

[strange sparrow]

Tekken is indeed a very nasty game

[terse idol]

I love the characters though

[strange sparrow]

it punish you for giving opportunity for your opponent finishing their combo

[tiny summit]

I look forward to her in Granblue

[serene sage]

Why does Tekken have that reputation?

[spark helm]

It's fun to watch tbh, very pretty. I kind of know some things but I'm not really good at it yet

[serene sage]

I heard that Tekken in fgc is like a different beast

Idk why though

[strange sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD_LEzZ3tZc

[terse idol]

Well tekken, as far as my memes I consume go
Staple in Korea, go to an arcade to play Tekken with kids, get destroyed

[strange sparrow]

A combo take away like atleast 30% of your HP

while other game, midair would be counted like half hp or something

[spark helm]

Tekken is a game that's very on top of understanding your space, speed, awareness of character attacks, what things look like from a p1 side vs p2

[tiny summit]

Because movesets are so large it is full of knowledge checks. Was that a low or mid? Was it a mid? Was I supposed to sidestep left or right? Was this punishable with a df2?

[spark helm]

^

shit like that

[serene sage]

I see

[spark helm]

People that are into tekken usually stick maybe one or two characters because not every character interacts the same ways compared to 2d rosters where you can more easily categorize and adjust ofr those possibilities (i.e big characters vs pygmy character, keep away zoner vs no fireball in your face rushdown)

[strange sparrow]

also Tekken make you suffer badly if you get pushed into a wall

[tiny summit]

3D movement creates a lot of different scenarios

[spark helm]

And it takes a lot of time to be very confident in your character since you're usually accounting for hundreds of possible interactions between several characters

[strange sparrow]

Super super badly

[serene sage]

Is there spam penalty in SF6? Like in smash if you spam the same move over and over you get less damage and impact

[tiny summit]

I'm not confident. Yoshimitsu is just funny. Knowledge check the character in a game of knowledge checks

[spark helm]

Not really no.

well there's scaling if that's what you mean.

[tiny summit]

No

[spark helm]

But that depends on what's going on.

same sf6

[strange sparrow]

Also the game reward you better when you play better

[spark helm]

where you'll get heavy scaling off of like say a combo using like three drive rushes or something

[strange sparrow]

so it's a snowballing effect now

Some new mechanics call Heats

it's dumb

[tiny summit]

Most of the staple fighting games have pretty good balance where spam isn't too much of an issue save for some egregious circumstances and more so just players not knowing

[strange sparrow]

Back in my days, all I get is extra damage for dying

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-kicking-child-pool-gif-24140501

[spark helm]

There should be more opressive keep away zoners in fighting games. People need to know what that's actually like.

[tiny summit]

Hilarious https://youtu.be/tspnrQ1de1M?si=XpDU6fs9ckLiACrF

[spark helm]

Some of the shit I've seen people complain about with zoning is like...kindergarten levels.

[junior needle]

They do have recoil, just more unconventionally. Their shots "wander" the longer you fire. This is more noticeable when suppressed or hipfiring. You can also have them be perfectly good weapons if you make their dps good but not as amazing as IAG's, provided they have a deeper ammo pool/ammo efficiency to justify using them.

[fathom rose]

[untold mulch]

I need to get taht fov

[tiny summit]

Launch Happy Chaos was only limited by the quality of your opponent. HC didn't ruin my time online since most would flub it up

[junior needle]

Why do I get back and there's fighting games in the chat

[spark helm]

bcuz they're great.

and i'm here.

[untold mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/fighting-games-guilty-gear-guilty-gear-strive-potemkin-grapplers-gif-22060834

[spark helm]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-that-makes-sense-sf3-sfiii-street-fighter3-street-fighter-iii-gif-16200983

[tiny summit]

Nah the heat system is now a resource available for both players round start

[spark helm]

He looked like a bastard to play against. I loved watching it.

[tiny summit]

Fighting games are something great

[untold mulch]

How I forgot I really enjoyed Marvel Vs Capcom 3

[spark helm]

I can't fuck with marvel yet

I'm...

I'm not about it

lmao

[strange sparrow]

Oh really

[crude ermine]

That game is very close to being my click to getting into fighting games

[strange sparrow]

Hmm

[spark helm]

I say that as someone that has a long past with dbfz but that doesn't fully count.

[tiny summit]

He was. The average online HC player was at least playable. The comp players who picked him up? It looked miserable

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-toothless-dragon-lizard-dance-dancing-gif-18147614732076936345

[crude ermine]

There definitely is a click there

[untold mulch]

Somewhat similar

[strange sparrow]

One less argument for Recon Lasgun to exist

[untold mulch]

GGST is the only one that made me actually want to learn all mechanics

[spark helm]

pirate a copy of either strive or rev2.

try it out

[serene sage]

Strive almost made me buy a hitbox and I don't even play fgs. Almost.

[untold mulch]

Recon get shit on by every part of them

Hell the wander effect means that on long burst

ADS is hard becuase lasers get in the way

I CAN'T KARKING SEE

[spark helm]

I got you. What's your shamelss interest in people?

[tiny summit]

Cmon and join. Also there's Granblue

[strange sparrow]

Dont join those people

[spark helm]

Do it.

[crude ermine]

Well

I like it when characters have giant fucking swords that hover

[strange sparrow]

Fighting game people are weird

fr

Don't do it

[crude ermine]

Like

[spark helm]

boom

[strange sparrow]

[spark helm]

https://tenor.com/view/ramlethal-guilty-gear-gif-25541156

[strange sparrow]

It's too late for him

[tiny summit]

I actually only like Strive and +R. I don't click with Rev2

[crude ermine]

Wow

[spark helm]

https://tenor.com/view/ramlethal-valentine-guilty-gear-strive-gif-22056391

ramlethal propaganda.

[strange sparrow]

I still can't get over how much Ram Lethal Propaganda show up on my twitter

[untold mulch]

[serene sage]

Thighs

[spark helm]

https://tenor.com/view/ramlethal-sol-ramlethal-valentine-sol-badguy-guilty-gear-strive-gif-22198293

[untold mulch]

I wanted to learn to use Giovanna but my controller was not good enough for it

[crude ermine]

A lot of my friends also play strive

To the point where I basically know what characters they absolutely despise

[spark helm]

in strive she has thigh giggle physics.

[untold mulch]

Get nuked

[spark helm]

lmao

[untold mulch]

I give faith in this statement

[strange sparrow]

Dont get me acting up on Bridget

[crude ermine]

And I just associate them with "oh that's the girl X hates"

[strange sparrow]

Faith to the emperor forbid

[spark helm]

bridget is a lot of fun in strive. she's great.

[tiny summit]

Remember. Someone at ArcSys took the time to animate thigh jiggle on her 6H. They purposely did that frame by frame

[untold mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/ramlethal-thighs-guilty-gear-strive-strive-guilty-gear-gif-22505394

[spark helm]

not primarily my cup of tea but that's because I like vicious femmes and sweethearts /shrug

[tiny summit]

And there it is

[untold mulch]

I don't say anything

speaks for itself

[strange sparrow]

Remember

Thick thighs save lifes

🙏

But still Ramlethal propaganda

[spring rose]

Guilty gear strive sucks

[spark helm]

https://tenor.com/view/i-no-guilty-gear-guilty-gear-strive-guilty-gear-i-no-love-gif-24350468

[spark helm]

lesbians in shambles.

could just say fuck it and play under night if you want to.

https://tenor.com/view/hype-merkava-hype-merkava-unist-uniel-gif-16379436

[crude ermine]

This time I actually bothered playing the tutorial (last time I tried a FG I literally didn't for some reason)

[spring rose]

https://tenor.com/view/zappa-ggxxacpr-plussy-zapper-footsies-gif-10288244767296155454

Return to tradition

Let me mix you up full screen

[tiny summit]

la creatura

[crude ermine]

"yeah how about this time I actually play the fucking tutorial"

[spark helm]

she's great.

[tiny summit]

War crime character

[crude ermine]

Ah that's the character my friend despises

[spark helm]

good

play her.

get good with her.

:>

[untold mulch]

Haven't seen her

[tiny summit]

Where's that round start clip with that character

[spark helm]

it's elphelt.

https://tenor.com/view/elphelt-elphelt-valentine-guilty-gear-guilty-gear-strive-strive-gif-17524358818382394507

[cerulean void]

@untold mulch

[untold mulch]

Oh, it was added in the game recently right? been a while since I played

[spark helm]

She's the vocalist for a metal band or some shit

[strange sparrow]

Hopium and Copium

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[spring rose]

Skull girls, pick peacock and set big band as your main assist

[untold mulch]

I know, I added one of the reactions

[spark helm]

after some self-actualization shit in the previous game or whatever

[spark helm]

Nuh uh

[spring rose]

Yuh uh

[spark helm]

If I'm seeing peacock on screen, they're going for mix mix.

[crude ermine]

My first ever steam game was skull girls because my ex gifted me it

[strange sparrow]

inb4 they make it terribly hard to control and an innate 1% chances to blow up

[untold mulch]

Fr, I need it.

I can do this anymore

[spark helm]

Hard keep away peacock is a terrible idea after a ceretain point

she's very hard on execution.

[untold mulch]

Worst part, I can see it

I see fatshark making Hellgun being harder to control than autoguns

[spring rose]

I dunno even certain someone else needed assistance against the hard keepaway peacock

[spark helm]

If I wanted to do more keep away in 3s prolly something like...eh, parasoul/robofortune/bb or uh, maybe idk...

[untold mulch]

OH GOD

[spring rose]

I didn't expect a fighting game discussion at all in this channel dam

[serene sage]

https://hard-drive.net/hd/video-games/warhammer-40000-darktide-level-artist-holding-back-tears-as-you-slide-dash-through-hand-modeled-space-cathedral-in-40-seconds/

[untold mulch]

When Command Grab for DT

[spark helm]

Keep away in Skullgrils is fine but if that's all you actually got, let alone in 3 v 3, you're dead when you get called out properly.

[spring rose]

I don't play that game seriously bruv

[spark helm]

Like, keep away is more of a filler tool than a raw pure approach.

oh no it's fine i'm just saying

[spring rose]

Ye I get it fam

[spark helm]

Peacock players are terrifying when they actually know what to do. It's just really hard to do.

[spring rose]

I play it to shoot people who has in no way knows how to deal with peacock

[spark helm]

Fucking cartoon mixup charaacter

[spring rose]

Haha j.p go brrr

[spark helm]

With no counterhit on failure.

stupid fucking kid robot.

I hate that fucker.

[cerulean void]

level designers should know that if they do the best of jobs, we should barely notice it because it's perfectly believable architecture

[serene sage]

in case you don't know, harddrive is similar to the onion

but for vidya, it's satire

[cerulean void]

I did not, and I'm coping and seething

[tiny summit]

Seeing a hard zoner basically winning for like 95% of a match in a easy match-up for them and then the other player gets in once. Oh so satisfying to watch

[spark helm]

The only time I got no issue hitting a kid is in a fighting game specifically. Little bastards can get packed the fuck up.

[spark helm]

A zoner that can flip it all and actually pin you down with some vicious ass setups.

Fucked up.

it's cool but fuck her.

[serene sage]

so, like snake?

[spark helm]

Worse.

Your checkmates have checkmates.

Your cqc is much more threatning than his

[untold mulch]

I played Zoner once

Never again because holy shit my friends back then got malded

[spring rose]

Let them mald

Tiger tiger

[spark helm]

AND you have the ability to literally force someone into potential blockstrings that can literally last minutes if you do it correctly and the person is just that scared.

[untold mulch]

Nah, it didn't felt a W, felt like I was doing BS

[spark helm]

it's fucking irritating as hell

[serene sage]

fighting game is only as fun as the opponent you're playing against

[spark helm]

oh zoning is totally legit

[untold mulch]

Mhmm

Similar skill is amazing

Similar bad is

[crude ermine]

My ex got super fucking pissed once after I beat her in smash a few years bacn

[spring rose]

Zoning is legit every fireball is a risk in a high level play

[spark helm]

mfkers don't get it imo: there's a lot going on with different methods of zoninng

[serene sage]

yeah but still fun
bad vs good is not fun for either

[untold mulch]

Exactly

[spark helm]

and people sometimes think that zoning is exclusively keep away.

[spring rose]

So true, bad vs bad is legit so fun to watch

[serene sage]

except maybe the people who play to win and have no soul

[terse idol]

[untold mulch]

And to play

[spark helm]

https://tenor.com/view/fighting-game-chess-air-fireball-fireball-hadoken-gif-23372095

[untold mulch]

I say as a terrible fighting game player

[serene sage]

im not playing fgs with you

[terse idol]

[serene sage]

tbf, im not playing fgs, period

[terse idol]

I just don't play fighting games fr

[spring rose]

Don't

[spark helm]

they're fun

😄

[terse idol]

[spark helm]

I love them :>

[spring rose]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[spark helm]

fav genre.

[strange sparrow]

It's alright to not play Fighting game

[spark helm]

next to stealth games and immersive sims

[strange sparrow]

I quit after some guy cussed at me for button smashing in local arcade

[untold mulch]

Oh god Stealth Games

[serene sage]

fair, if there is time (of which there is none 😔)

[spark helm]

ew

[untold mulch]

Playing coop Splinter Cell Chaos Theory

[strange sparrow]

Look I was super young at that time

[untold mulch]

No amount of Kek is enough

[spark helm]

no i mean the person being an asshole.

to a kid

over a game

[serene sage]

I don't understand stealth

[spark helm]

that shit mad corny

[serene sage]

I just can't

I don't get it

[strange sparrow]

like tekken 6 is like 15 years ago, im like super duper dumb

[untold mulch]

The trick is that enemies are too dead/unconcious to detect you

[terse idol]

God that's cringe, like I understand online, but if you're local

[tiny summit]

Then in FGs there's the Yoshi matchup https://fxtwitter.com/Brawlpro/status/1742471621066027329?t=hPLilltP1Cid459E9r9jiQ&s=19

[serene sage]

I can't play stealth champs in League, can't do it in action

[terse idol]

That guy just had a skill diff

[strange sparrow]

only until like I get older

I know that button smashing is bad manner

[terse idol]

If they can't beat button mashing they were bad

It's not

People who are good at fighting games can easily beat it

[untold mulch]

But like, seeing a friend

GOING TIP TOEING BEHIND A GUARD is just cracks me up so much

[spark helm]

for me, it's a combination of usually immersive aspects of those games with well made systems, whatever the setting has going on and whether or not I'm satisfied with how the atmosphere feels.

[untold mulch]

They don't make gtames like Splinter Cell anymore

https://tenor.com/view/splinter-cell-ubisoft-sam-fisher-vexkin-tormod-gif-15108351

Maybe is t his why I like infiltrate

[cerulean void]

I need a Splinter Cell game but Orks

[tiny summit]

Cmon they fun

[untold mulch]

[spark helm]

There's a kind of vacuum with stealth games imo where you have games that have simple building blocks of a stealth game, but nothing in a meaningful way that can get those game states across without it being very linear and ultra boring.

[spring rose]

Don't listen to legate it's a trap

[spark helm]

So assassin's creed is a great example for what I'm talking about.

[untold mulch]

I hate the trend of making all threat detectors the Ubisoft bs

[spark helm]

Yeah that shit is really rally lame

Sad but it's whatever. plenty of great stealth games from indie devs and elsewhere.

[cerulean void]

topical but I'm tired of video games copying Ubisoft BS

[serene sage]

what games do ubisoft make again? watch dogs, assassin creed, shadow of mordor
that's about it?

[untold mulch]

By end of my Splinter cell playthroughs I had instinct of going

Where is the dark, how much ambiental noise, can I escape this room without using the door?

[spark helm]

Mordor was uh warner bros i blieve.

[untold mulch]

Yep

[spark helm]

idr

was it them?

[cerulean void]

Far Cry simulators versions 2.1 through 5,403.3

[tiny summit]

Wasn't ubisoft making like a Hero CoD shooter?

[spark helm]

thought they already did that like twice now

something called ghost wilds or something?

idr

[untold mulch]

Warner is like the big guy, the studio I think is monolith?

[tiny summit]

I remember playing the beta for that on delta-8. I don't remember much

[untold mulch]

Ubisoft copypasting the same game

[tiny summit]

Nah it was XDefiant

[spark helm]

yeah just checked the wiki for it

[serene sage]

so nothing worth playing

[spark helm]

warner producer, monolith dev team.

[serene sage]

got it

[spark helm]

eh

[terse idol]

yeah ghost recon wild lands

they're trying to make a franchise

it just sucks

[serene sage]

recon

[cerulean void]

I've been trying to play through AC:Valhalla for the longest karking time but every time I spin it up I just go "oh yeah, it's just Far Cry but different"

[untold mulch]

Ghost Recon

Who saw you

and who sees you now

[spark helm]

I think shadow of mordor is a fun enough experience. If you're exhausted on collectathon 3rd person adventure games though, you might not stick around for it

But it actually an amount of fun tbh

[untold mulch]

I have the FIRST Ghost Recon for the playstation

Child me 100% it with a single soldier for the fun of it

[serene sage]

nah I did finish Shadow of Morder, was really fun

[untold mulch]

Lone soldier vs Russia

[serene sage]

but other than that none of the other series really attract me

[spark helm]

ah that shit thanks

yeha never touched it

[serene sage]

recon bad

shrimple as

[untold mulch]

I see people talking good of it and I am like

it was the beginning of the shit

[spark helm]

I'm not into john whiteman american soldier games tbh

they're boring as shit.

[midnight totem]

Man. I love my vraks 3, but then I use the revolver and cleave through 5 shotgunners

[untold mulch]

The arkham style fighting is so well done

[midnight totem]

Feelsbad

[untold mulch]

also the powers so good

Jump off a Uruk, shoot some arrows

grab and explode the head of another one

[serene sage]

the combat is definitely cool, enough for like one game
but a series of that, i'm not so sure

[spark helm]

Oh yeah. It can get stale if you pla ya certain way but the fact that everything feels good to do is really dope.

[serene sage]

i played arkham city

and it was good, ngl

but moving to origin was just boring

[spark helm]

Personally prefer things like God Hand and Sifu where you're doing 1 v X but you're very vulnerable as well.

[untold mulch]

Exactly this

Shadow Of War has a good selection of talents that you can't have all at the same time

And they all feels so fun

I need to finish Sifu

and play God Hand

[serene sage]

no turn based players here?

[spark helm]

God Hand is old, but bear with me, focus on the experience through your immersive sort of sense.

[untold mulch]

I played Asylum and City, but didn't bother with more

[serene sage]

😔

[untold mulch]

Xcom and ehh

a bit more on the side

[spark helm]

It's the way it is for a reason in god hand.

love it

[cerulean void]

I'll turn based for you 😘

[untold mulch]

I prefer having more control on characters

[spark helm]

I kind of play pkmn and fire emblem but I don't really get super into turn-based stuff much these days.

I need to really be invested in the world usually.

or the game's feel.

[serene sage]

I remember when heartstone was big and fun

[untold mulch]

I played Ufo Enemy Unknown 1993 in 2020

I don't care how old the game is

[serene sage]

I got to rank 5 UwU

[untold mulch]

Game good

It can be from 1980 Idc

[spark helm]

fair enough

[serene sage]

which is like top 1% based on Blizzard distribution stats I think

[spark helm]

iirc god hand operates on tank controls so be prepped for that.

[strange grove]

i just died to fall damage, get on my level

[untold mulch]

Armored Core player here

OG Armored Core

https://tenor.com/view/cry-about-it-armored-core-gif-27360677

[spark helm]

I can only play card games so long as I'm not spending money to participate. Eventually I got into HS enough to care about the deck building and then the money sinking came so I didn't last long.

Wallet C'thun Control Warrior out of spite wasn't worth it.

lol

I was so bored.

but won so much

[serene sage]

oh yeah, I spend money on a few value packs, and adventures (back when they still did adventure)

[untold mulch]

Only Card Game I played for more than 3 seconds

was Gwent

[serene sage]

eventually I got priced out of the game

[untold mulch]

Both the W3 and Standalone

[spark helm]

Otherwise, I'm a blackjack/spades gal.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[serene sage]

cause I can't be arsed grinding or buying cards every few months

[strange grove]

cribbage and pinacle here

[serene sage]

500

[strange grove]

no im not 70 years old

[spark helm]

never heard of it. what's that?

[serene sage]

have anyone heard of that one?

it's a trick taking game

[strange grove]

oh sounds like pinacle

[serene sage]

is it 2v2 and you play without 1s and 2s?

[strange grove]

It’s 2v2

[spark helm]

actually cribbage sounds familiar but i don't think i ever played it.

[serene sage]

and you try to take as many tricks as possible?
I think every trick taking games are very similar, just the score limit and win conditions are different

[spark helm]

i never heard people calling stuff tricks so idk what yall mean

is like books in spades?

Basically winning a hand?

[serene sage]

does trump suits mean anything to you?

left and right bower?

[spark helm]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-pepsi-having-a-good-time-eating-funny-epic-gif-15879543

uh...

well trump suits yeah

but that's more like poker kind of in my mind

I don't/can't play poker

[strange grove]

That game sounds just like pinnacle honestly, where people bid on their hands to declare trump suit

[spark helm]

OH

[serene sage]

yup

[spark helm]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Oh okay.

we using different words

yeah spades has that

i'm used to them being called books

[serene sage]

i think it's also called that

[spark helm]

you call your books that you think you'll get, play your hands, highest card wins save for spades then at that point highest spade wins

if you couldn't possibly get x amount of books, you "renege" and lose points, that kind of thing

[serene sage]

yeah, except the trump suit can be anything, not just spades

[serene sage]

yup

[spark helm]

you can also lie, at least with the rules I'm used to

and then get called out for basically cheating and then lose more points in the form of forfeited books.

that feels more like a house rule or something but it added a lot to the group I played wiht at the time.

[serene sage]

uh you can't in 500

but that's trick taking games

[spark helm]

mhm

got you got you

[fair kite]

Does hitting the captain boss's shield count for the Make Every Shot Count penance?

[serene sage]

yes. you can cheese it with the twin. unload on the shield

[serene sage]

so many nights in college we spent playing it and make like the most unhinged bids

memories

[spark helm]

yeah no that shit is genuinely fun

For it's weird with tabletops and stuff like that since my attention span is really volatile most days.

I can't like, sit down and play say, certain board games because I'm playing something ona switch or looking at my phone but then you put a deck of basic ass playing cards?

boom I'm locked in.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[serene sage]

I also love social deduction games

Coup is my favorite

[spark helm]

I hate them.

[serene sage]

lol

[spark helm]

My friends shitpost me into oblivion.

I keep forgetting that social deducation weighs heavily on group dynamics.

Maybe I should kill you in werewolf...in real life. Friend.

CAN"T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT ALIVE!

[serene sage]

I think it's the most fun if others are into shenanigans

[spark helm]

so now I just shitpost as whatever death trump character you can play as and gaslight my friends into voting each other to oust themselves.

[serene sage]

and try to sow as much chaos as possible

[spark helm]

Or I just suicide myself into a big bad to put pressure on them

lol

[serene sage]

Amongus is a badly designed social deduction game

but it blew up because the genre foundation is just fun but people have never experienced it

and COVID helped, I guess

funny how that died huh

[spark helm]

I think amongus is...

something

[serene sage]

no one even talks about it anymore, or its death

[spark helm]

i actually liked it a lot but someting about it was really off sometimes

idk

[serene sage]

it just kinda whimpers away

[spark helm]

i mostly just played as an equal opportunity griefer

[untold mulch]

Is making chaos

[spark helm]

I'd set up imposters against each other.

I'd kill imposters myself as a cover.

and rat them out myself.

before killing a normal dude or something that's been going on objectives and is actually smarter than the whole lobby lol

[untold mulch]

IS a fun little phone game, but that was it

Also yeah covid made it popular because people were stuck

so having interaction in such a way well, it blew up

[spark helm]

ain't lethal company the new one?

[untold mulch]

Yep

Need to play it, feels fun

[spark helm]

nice shitpost game for sure

very youth internet culture kind of vibe if you ask me

[untold mulch]

also is pve which is even better

[spark helm]

nice little game that younger kids or something can get into and older people can just get fucking cretins to each other in

lmao

[serene sage]

The COVID era games have Among Us, Fall Guys, and what else?

[spark helm]

overcooked

but that game is HYPE

[serene sage]

I feel like there were 2 more that were kinda big

[spark helm]

(though I don't want to be reminded of working in a hellish kitchen...)

[untold mulch]

Playing cooking games with friends is always the same

1st step: this kinda fun, hey do this

2nd step: I need a burger in table 2

Endgame: WHERE IS THE FUCKING SLICE, I ASKED ONE 10 SECONDS AGO, MOVE MOVE MOVE

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsey-cooking-gif-20155450

[spark helm]

see

athat's when I start putting bass in my voice and get the sous chef asshole ptsd

nah

[untold mulch]

Cooking industry work is so shit

[spark helm]

Ramsey would get worked by a line cook at a denny\s

that boy aint shit

[serene sage]

imagine Darktide with this vibe

[spark helm]

talkin way too crazy to people on that show. I know itwas for the act but damn man...

[strange sparrow]

I would fuck with it

[serene sage]

like you can't shoot certain enemies

[strange sparrow]

WHere's the HERETIC BURGER

[serene sage]

only teammates can

[strange sparrow]

JOHn

JOHN DARKTIDE

WHAT ARE YOU

[serene sage]

why is the gunner still alive

[strange sparrow]

An idiot psyker

[spark helm]

It couldn't be me having a grown ass man putting bread on my face and calling me an idiot sandwich, then making me say it to keep my job?

[untold mulch]

I mean sometimes I have reached that point

WHY THAT SNIPER IS STILL AIMING AT MY ASS !?

[spark helm]

oh no baby

[serene sage]

I need ammo from their guns

[spark helm]

you bout to not come out the walk-in

fuuuuuuuuuuuck that

[strange sparrow]

The Chaos Spawn is waiting on the DRIVE THRU

WAKE UP HENRY

[serene sage]

STOP OCCUPYING THE ELEVATOR

you fucking donkey

[spark helm]

https://tenor.com/view/nichijou-blank-stare-stare-anime-mio-naganohara-gif-24979431

[strange sparrow]

WHERES YOUR APRON HENRY

[untold mulch]

I am 99% sure, that all of that is the show and is agreed before recording

[strange sparrow]

DONT TELL ME YOU SWAP IT OUT FOR A SOUS CHEF HAT

[spark helm]

goes to knife sleeve. mhm...

[untold mulch]

Because drama sells

[spark helm]

oh yeah

oh word?

[strange sparrow]

BUT BUT IT GIVE ME 10% SPEED

[untold mulch]

LMAO

[serene sage]

WHY ARE YOU BRINGING RECON? WE ARE COOKING, NOT MAKING A FLASHLIGHT SHOW

[spark helm]

It was for an american audience primarily too so it pans out.

American food workers get...

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/laser-rave-party-concert-audience-gif-16998132

[spark helm]

yeah

[strange sparrow]

Recon Worker

[spark helm]

treated very very poorly in my experience.

[untold mulch]

Pretty much, Americans looks like they need people to be assholes for them to enjoy shit

[spark helm]

fast food workers are made of iron.

it coudln't be me dealing with some of the shit I've bee told by friends.

and even see nevery now and again

[untold mulch]

Very rare steak

Full mag of Recon

[spark helm]

Also, I'm convinced every chicken fast food joint is staffed by retired pmcs.

[untold mulch]

Lol

[spark helm]

ppl get they ass BEAT over them counters.

lol

idk what it is

[serene sage]

The enemy is so raw the mutant is still trying to charge
What the fuck are you doing with that maniac damage

[spark helm]

chicken places not the place to find out after messing around but dude...why yall keep testing them?

[untold mulch]

COOK, SERVE, AND DO IT AGAIN

[spark helm]

chillout it's shift 3 and bro is literally working with the grease trap. what world do you think you can just throw food on them and somehow not lose?

I'm confused.

usually humans have self-preservation in mind

I've seen tiny ass women straight up yank people over the counter to beat the brakes offem cuz they just...thought they could throw their food in their face?

hello?

[untold mulch]

what?

[spark helm]

yes

[untold mulch]

bruh

The fuck is wrong with people

[spark helm]

depending on where yo uare, fast food workers in the us are abused fr fr

[strange sparrow]

Tbh, Some people feel entitled

[spark helm]

it's not unique really but food workers get treated like shit in my experience, both working and eating there.

[strange sparrow]

so yeah.

Don't work in F&B

It's a shit job, shit pay

Even high class restaurent dont get pay well

[spark helm]

some folk really get off on tearing people down that aren't really that much behind compared to them. they just don't respect the people at all.

[strange sparrow]

Like you would say, but uncle jack made 6k per month

[spark helm]

oh yeah. know plenty that have taken hevy pay cuts for the clout of some of the preppy spots around here. the clout is real but the money is empty when you consider living expenses in the immediate area.

[strange sparrow]

yea uncle jack work in a kitchen everyday for 12 hours

rotating between 2 shift

[serene sage]

I smile at my local McD and sometimes I get extra nuggies UwU

[spark helm]

It's fucked up too because the people I'm thinking of got skills skill

they are phenomenal

completely disrespected by the higher staff.

disgusting

[strange sparrow]

that's 372 hours, which net you 16 dollar per hour

because in a lot of cases, Overtime isn't a thing

[untold mulch]

I swear with people

Being nice costs nothing

[spark helm]

imma be real. I just try to brighten up folks day at the fast food joint if I got the energy

like

that shit is hard work

fr

only have had one fast food job

[terse idol]

If we're talking restaurants all that pay is in tips

Especiiially for servers

[strange sparrow]

I worked as a Supervisor/Manager in a popular franchise for boba before

[untold mulch]

Yep

[strange sparrow]

I need to tear down people

it was super hard for me

[serene sage]

I used to work as a server, I get it

for like 2 summers I think

[strange sparrow]

Because shit don't go fast enough, you get fucked in your ass

[spark helm]

speaking mostly on american shit like dude. that tip shit is fucked up

[serene sage]

I got paid $9.75

[strange sparrow]

shit doesn't taste consistent, you get fuck in your ass

[serene sage]

but it was catering so actually a decent amount of downtime

[terse idol]

I'm canadian, minimum wage is 15 dollars
9 dollars US
But it's just

not enough

[spark helm]

Only reason tips work the way they do rn is literally because restaurant lobbyists beat down salary policies.

[terse idol]

Rent going up to 1.5k - 2k

[strange sparrow]

the only real way to keep people making sure stuff consistent and fast is to tear them down and make them realise their mistake

[spark helm]

lemme actually get they name up rq

[untold mulch]

Shit getting expensive everywhere

[spark helm]

these dudes are bastards.

[strange sparrow]

like you can't spend 1 hour like

[terse idol]

There was that story of the southpark guys or some other comedians making a restaraunt paying their servers 30 dollars an hour no tips

[strange sparrow]

giving motivation speech or something

[terse idol]

IT's just not livable rn

[spark helm]

These scumbgas

the other NRA

https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/clients/lobbyists?cycle=2020&id=D000000150

[terse idol]

🥹

[spark helm]

Fuck dudes like this.

[strange sparrow]

Tipping culture in America is legit fucked

Not paying a livable wage

and forcing customer to pay

[untold mulch]

I can't fathom the idea of depending on people having to tip you to live

like

[spark helm]

It's a cultural pressure thing

[untold mulch]

you are already working for a wage wtf

[terse idol]

it depends where, the sad part is most places with higher minimum wage have higher rent

[spark helm]

with a shame-honor dynamic to it.

[strange sparrow]

Also there's pressure from culture

[terse idol]

So even if minimum is higher you havve to survive off tips too

imded

I literally own a family restaurant, like shit's tough

[spark helm]

If you're looking for some amount of consistent tips, you're better off working for preppy spots.

and um.

idk if you want that

[terse idol]

I cannot imagine people living in cali as a server

[strange sparrow]

Thing is, all the stuff are prop up by rental cost

[terse idol]

Not making 2k per day in tips to survive it's not enough

[spark helm]

especially if you're a woman, whatever minority groups in the area, etc.

[terse idol]

yeeahhh

[strange sparrow]

why is the raw material get expensive again this year?

[spark helm]

rich dudes with 300 dollar cash out that can drop 500 after saying some nasty racist shit is a whole thing

[strange sparrow]

Oh Storage fees goes up by 150%

Oh shipment and oil, because we went for cheaper storage but it's middle of nowhere

[spark helm]

minus the financial scammery of it all, finding dope people at those kinds of places is a gem imo

[terse idol]

Oh and groceries are too high so now

Unless you're a big restaurant oh man

We're gutted fr

[spark helm]

Can only imagine

What the hell happened to diners and their egg/flour costs is what I'm scared of lmao

[serene sage]

Which area is the restaurant

[terse idol]

on a busy high way (I just think it's too big)

rent is waaayy too high

[stuck dawn]

wtf is this chat

[serene sage]

I mean east/West Coast

[terse idol]

Oh West Coast

[stuck dawn]

I'm tryna look at builds

[terse idol]

Down south in Canada

😌

[serene sage]

Nvm xD

[untold mulch]

Ask

[stuck dawn]

go #general-chat

[serene sage]

Uh there's a thread

[junior needle]

Here in the vet channel

We talk about everything but vet

[untold mulch]

I mean what more to say

[spring spindle]

We’re all veterans if you think about it

[untold mulch]

STOP SILENCING ME ABOMINABLE INTELLIGENCE

I can say FUCK but can't say Bi--

[strange grove]

lol I can't believe that word is blocked

[serene sage]

I mean no one really posts builds here anyway, there is a separate build thread

so go there

[stuck dawn]

this channel is tu discuss all things related to the class

I think you're missing the point

[untold mulch]

you said builds

and also just ask

[stuck dawn]

do builds not relate to the class?

[untold mulch]

if no one changes topic

people are gonna talk

[stuck dawn]

y'all are talking about restaurants on here

[untold mulch]

simple as

[junior needle]

He is correct, off topic should technically migrate to an appropriate channel

[serene sage]

hello restaurant, I would like food
hello car salesman, I would like car