veteran-class

[junior needle]

Miss half 3/5 my shots at least

With my reticle center mass

[white minnow]

it's definite inaccurate especially if you want to make use of the "fan the hammer" aspect of it to any degree

[junior needle]

So you have to hipfire for any decent accuracy?

[white minnow]

you might have to hipfire if you're using deadshot and you don't want to get rumbled when at 0 stamina

last time I ran it, the braced mode kept on swaying each time I hit 0 stamina and repeatedly ADSed

which was an old problem with other guns but that was fixed for guns with ADS

[slate sleet]

try using it with the stam regen node of focus target

[white minnow]

but apparently not for the braced mode of the agri revolver

i don't like focus target

and that is separate from the fact that deadshot was bugged with the agri revolver last time I ran it

which doubled my dislike of it

[orchid condor]

whats the usual perk n bless for the columnus mk V?

[eternal sable]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-silly-cat-cat-silly-eepy-gif-15876057077584528993

[terse idol]

Dum dum, and wither death spitter or focus fire
And uhhhhhhhhh

I don't know the blessings

[orchid condor]

but you just list the blessing

[terse idol]

If you wanna go crazy go for rending, onslaught talents and carapace maniac maybe

I mean

Perks

I dunno perks

[orchid condor]

[slate sleet]

unyielding for boss dmg

flat or carap depending on your build

[orchid condor]

game keep giving me fire frenzy and sustain fire

[slate sleet]

maniac if you feel like you dont do enough dmg to mutants and stuff

it all depends on the build

[muted knot]

Easiest job of my life

Because the other 2 auras suck massive cock

[slate sleet]

low iq take

[muted knot]

Ah yes

My 5% movespeed

Definitely competes with not having to pick up ammo for a match

[terse idol]

They kinda do, fire team is only worthwhile if you're somehow missing 5%

[muted knot]

And fireteam I guess could be built for ?

[terse idol]

Survivalist is so god tier it nerfed the other auras

[muted knot]

But in most cases firing more means doing more damage

It's just not a competition

But maybe you have some truth that you'd like to enlighten me with

[slate sleet]

ammo aura is worthless to most psyker builds and zealots dont use that much ammo

[muted knot]

I'm always happy to learn

[terse idol]

Hmm

[slate sleet]

half the builds in this game dont use a ranged weapon enough to bring the ammo aura

[muted knot]

And how does that concern me ?

[terse idol]

Kinda? Flamer zealots use alot

Some psykers have gun psyker

[muted knot]

Like I get what you are saying

[slate sleet]

it doesnt just never change your build never try anything new

im sure your smite voidstrike psyker likes the ammo

[junior needle]

I use a pretty good amount of ammo even on a revolver, but I do quite a lot of elite/special killing with it.

[terse idol]

The auras "trying" isn't like that great, if you wanted to try new builds you'd just go middle fire team

[slate sleet]

is surv better in pubs? sure

is it better if you run some ammo hungry gun you wanna shoot all day? sure

[terse idol]

Its even better in premades

My friend wants me to survivalist and I oblige because he likes gungryn

[junior needle]

If I weren't using revolver I'd be using a lot more to handle those

[terse idol]

To be fair that's alotta guns if you use them aloot

Columnus, pgun kinda

Revolver

[muted knot]

The only guns that don't profit that much from survivalist are lasguns

Cause you know they just sustain themselves most of the time

[terse idol]

Well yeah you could skip on survivalist if you run that one talent to not lose ammo on frit

But no yeah I get it too

[muted knot]

Weak ass take

[terse idol]

I mean, I play infil with movement speed auras because I don't want to sacrifice my build for survivalist

[muted knot]

That's absolutely fair

[paper furnace]

my las iv takes at most three shots to kill gunners, with the crit refund it's an average of two? and it refunds me twenty-one.

i just fire at things for fun now

[terse idol]

Yeppers

[muted knot]

That's what im saying

[paper furnace]

i treat it like a long range melee weapon

if i run out of ammo it's because im trying to burn a hole through tertium

[muted knot]

But I guess not taking the obvious worse options makes me stupid

[thick wolf]

lasguns with that 25% ammo increase talent perk

[paper furnace]

which obviously you get for the crit talent

vets get to roleplay as a psyker with infinite ranged m1

[thick wolf]

I feel like using the M4 in OG MW2/3 with the lasgun + 25% ammo increase talent with that amount of ammo I have in my disposal

[terse idol]

Well just get head hunter

Free crits

[paper furnace]

yeah

[thick wolf]

guardsman surrounded by lasgun batteries attached to his waist

[muted knot]

Anyways

Crucian/handcannon revolver on wep spec good

[thick wolf]

haven't tried a revolver yet

[muted knot]

They are very good at the moment

[thick wolf]

tho since I'm about one more level to go I guess I can just nab one at the store

[tranquil bronze]

Emperor bless this gu.... shit...

[thick wolf]

1% mobility

[muted knot]

Ye good old fully lead shotgun

[thick wolf]

that thing made out of obsidian bricks or what

or a cartoon anvil

[muted knot]

Id reccomed getting the zarona stub not the agripinaa

[sharp ember]

mobility dump

what's dodging

[fossil basalt]

Your move creep.
(I can't)

[muted knot]

It's fight or flight and I sure as fuck can't move with this thing

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-workout-lift-weights-heavy-gif-7622083

[elder dawn]

can i save this lads

or is it too far gone

[frank basin]

looks like is horde clearing gun now

[elder dawn]

lol

[thick wolf]

remind me what are groaners in the game again?

[white minnow]

the 300hp trash enemies

[frank basin]

those guy screaming "help me! help me!"

[muted knot]

The ones on the tshirts

[frank basin]

they wear civilian clothes not zombie one

[muted knot]

Kinda bricked tbh

[elder dawn]

o well

[thick wolf]

with how so many they are I couldn't tell which one of them were

[elder dawn]

was a drop anyway

[muted knot]

Infernus and sustained for are both rather mediocre

[thick wolf]

aside from armored dudes and only helmet dude

[muted knot]

Those are bruisers

[frank basin]

zombie goes 'khhhhhaarrrrhk"
groaner just moaning scream out beg mercy and help

[junior needle]

4/4 scuffed

[muted knot]

Infested are the more zombie looking dudes

[elder dawn]

mk1 helbore or mk2 better

[frank basin]

their animation is zombie like

while groaner just hostile human

[muted knot]

You like shooting faster or slower ?

[frank basin]

animation

[elder dawn]

i like not shooting mk3

faster i guess lmao

[muted knot]

Then MK2

I personally love mk1

[viral nacelle]

Fuck me, I cut thru a whole bunch of shit in a damn run after my team goes down and right before I go to get them I walk over for a goddamn ammo crate while my toughness and f is down and a rando shoots me in the back and kills my clutch 😂

Salty af rn

[muted knot]

It's a nice middle ground and with onslaught you get very fast shots

[viral nacelle]

Also las pistol is dope

[muted knot]

Heavy or small one ?

[viral nacelle]

Really nice run and gun with some solid countersnipe pots

Heavy

[muted knot]

I built one but it kind of feels of to me

Like I can't put a finger on it

[viral nacelle]

I got lucky with a god rolled one and it’s pretty solid

[thick wolf]

this is the only revolver he has rn

[muted knot]

But it fellas wonky

[viral nacelle]

It definitely has a tendency to shoot wide

[junior needle]

XIV revolver is definitely inferior to the 2 currently

Hopefully that changes in the future

[muted knot]

That's the weird braced one

Don't like it at all

[thick wolf]

...oh

[junior needle]

Not a good roll anyway

[thick wolf]

wait what

BRACED???

HOW DO YOU BRACE A REVOLVER

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/revolver-ocelot-gaming-mgs-guns-gif-17353618

Braced

[thick wolf]

don't tell me that one you can't aim by its sights

[candid tundra]

I don't like the shredder like... at all, but is this worth picking up?

[frank basin]

theres other mark are has aimdown sight

[shut flax]

It has a niche. Though that niche is already filled by other options.

[elder dawn]

the omnissiah has blessed me this day

unarmored to flak or maniac

[thick wolf]

Mk IIa?

[frank basin]

that one you have just braced

[candid tundra]

keep if you can hit headshots

unarmoured helps hit breakpoints for headshot 1 taps

[frank basin]

yes

[elder dawn]

im a vraks gamer headshot king

[frank basin]

that is new revolver, different mark

[candid tundra]

based lol

[thick wolf]

shit, its either I wait

[frank basin]

or buy brunt armory

[thick wolf]

or I just get a profane weapon of it for 9k

[strange sparrow]

Omnisiah should had bless those stats

[terse idol]

It had a speed loader

[placid portal]

Agripinaa Revolvo and Zarona Revolvo

[junior needle]

Its niche is making me regret using it

[candid tundra]

yeah ask @tall torrent about it he's like better than me

[terse idol]

The whole point of that one is unloading the whole thing

[strange sparrow]

You want Damage -> Stopping -> Charging

[terse idol]

Where are the funny monstrosity deleting memes

[junior needle]

You want to keep unarmored on the 2 for dreg shooter breakpoints. It's the only one that needs it. Replace crit chance.

[strange sparrow]

the new revolver is good if you running funny zealot build

[placid portal]

The exe stance + all the pwoer bonus modifier from skill tree

[strange sparrow]

because reloading old revolver take forever

[candid tundra]

anyone have any feedback on this hunk of junk?

[placid portal]

Still cant pen through teammates

[strange sparrow]

that's not a problem for veteran thou

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/hunt-showdown-fanning-moment-borderlands3-flood-revolver-gif-24999722

[elder dawn]

with maniac or flak?

[placid portal]

Which is a big problem imo

[muted knot]

That's why you use it with wep spec

[terse idol]

Yeah

[strange sparrow]

it's a gun that other class have access to

[terse idol]

And I mean you can reload on downtime

[strange sparrow]

and it shouldn't be balanced because Veteran man 2stronk on reloading

[terse idol]

Or worse case reload 1 bullet and shoot

[junior needle]

Used to be maniac but that was a long time ago and breakpoints have likely changed. Plug it into this https://dt.wartide.net/calc/

[placid portal]

Or chad reload in front of a crusher overhead

[strange sparrow]

Veteran Man and their Gun problem = too much bandaid on their gun with talent

so it's op because the gun or the talent

[viral nacelle]

Other vets: “I’m here to shoot”
Me: “fuck guns hand me that devils claw”

[frank basin]

parry this

[placid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/game-combat-sekiro-from-software-gif-12490160

PoV you are using devil claw vs a rager

[viral nacelle]

I think I parried a crusher overhead

[placid portal]

You could

[viral nacelle]

Well it sure looked like it was gonna hit me and I went for the parry and didn’t die

[umbral granite]

Devil claw can parry anything that's not a "grab"

[viral nacelle]

Oh fuck yea

[muted knot]

Absolutely fair but I'm in vetchat so I think about vrt

[umbral granite]

I once killed a plage ogryn by spamming parry and marking them

[frank basin]

it consume stamina with parry

[placid portal]

I used mk7 and saw why people like it over cheesehole claw

[muted knot]

I'm literally too stupid to use this

[terse idol]

I mean

[placid portal]

The lights are quite satisfying when killing things

[frank basin]

so youtuber darktide make dclaw guide are bad?

[terse idol]

Revolver is just solid baseline and talents with vet make it extra good

Free crit

[pastel geode]

Reject parry embrace chainsaw

[placid portal]

Also stab overhead combo

[terse idol]

Perfect proc on handcannon

[pastel geode]

https://tenor.com/view/40k-commissar-chainsword-gif-19397214

[placid portal]

No

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/chainsword-warhammer40k-gif-27208887

[placid portal]

Just a preference thing

[frank basin]

oh

[placid portal]

Like the cheese hole for aesthetics

[terse idol]

honestly I don't know if the revolver is on op level with pgun, because if the limited magazine size

And handcannon nerf

[frank basin]

i made space Katana

[placid portal]

But mk7 do have good combo on lights for single target

[frank basin]

on devil claw

[umbral granite]

my chainsword has bloodletter 4 and rev-it-up 3.

https://tenor.com/view/chainsaw-man-anime-cm-denji-power-gif-26922807

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/chainsaw-man-csm-denji-pochita-gif-5447623713498648492

[thick wolf]

jesus christ, just tried the stub revolver in the meat grinder

it shreds the scab mauler like it was nothing

[muted knot]

Yeeee boi

[shut flax]

In my native tongue we have a saying for it

"It fucks"

[muted knot]

It fucks big time

[junior needle]

[placid portal]

Crit headshots with handcannon blessing does more damage than body shot crits btw

[junior needle]

based

[placid portal]

[thick wolf]

I only got the profane version from brunt

[shut flax]

Run it with Deadshot, Surgical, and Hand Cannon to two tap crushers

[elder dawn]

with flak and unarmored

[thick wolf]

and it shreds

[terse idol]

Oh wait that does mean it will shred crushers

[junior needle]

Not the elites

The regular guys

[muted knot]

Good now get a good one and make try to find either surgical/handcannon or crucian/handcannon

[placid portal]

Crucian is only for agripinaa tbh

[muted knot]

Cap

[shut flax]

Crucian is best on the braced one. WIth surgical IV, you'll have a 40% crit chance with every shot

[junior needle]

What are they called

Dreg stakers

[muted knot]

What the fuck is a staker

[frank basin]

shooter

one

[placid portal]

The minion shooters

[muted knot]

Ahh

[frank basin]

they shoot like 5 burst

[muted knot]

Are they not called shooters ?

[umbral granite]

Surgical 4 + handcannon 3 is on my psyker's Zerona... it almost feels like playing plasma-gun vet

[junior needle]

Yellow shooters in rags are dreg stalkers

[frank basin]

stalker shoot like 5 burst round, regular shooter shoot 3

[junior needle]

The guys that used to not be highlighted by exe are scab stalkers

[frank basin]

they are gimmick threat

[white minnow]

there's both stalkers and shooters

[muted knot]

Oh really ? Have I missed a entire enemy type for the whole time I've played this game ?

[junior needle]

Then there's gunners, which are elites

[muted knot]

I know gunners

[white minnow]

the scab faction has stalkers and shooters; the dreg faction only has stalkers

[frank basin]

they shoot autogun for stalker, scab shooter just lasgun

[muted knot]

But I have never heard of the other one

Are they different in appearance?

[terse idol]

What is a scab stalker?

[white minnow]

scab stalkers have laspistols or something along those lines don;t they

[terse idol]

Whaaat

[frank basin]

dreg are same, scab has two split

[thick wolf]

which means I have to wait until brunt restocks, yeah?

[terse idol]

I've never seen these guys

[junior needle]

It's more like a lascarbine

[tiny summit]

ah good ol brunt

[white minnow]

scab shooters have the green eyes

scab stalkers don't

[muted knot]

Again wep spec is really damn cool with it

Ohhhh

[terse idol]

I thought they all had green eyes that crazy

[white minnow]

scab shooters are the one with high base damage and a 1x toughness damage multiplier

[terse idol]

[frank basin]

scab stalker almost look identical to scab shotgunner

[muted knot]

I always thought they are just different outfits

[white minnow]

scab stalkers have a low base damage but high toughness damage multiplier

[terse idol]

Ou

[frank basin]

except stalker dont have lot cosmtic

[white minnow]

so scab shooters will delete your health while scab stalkers are pretty whatever to your hp

[terse idol]

Oh

[frank basin]

they only have bucket head

[umbral granite]

reminds me of that time Melk tried to sell my ogryn a shield that had 30 damage, but every other stat was 74+

[terse idol]

Now I know what they look like, they have the bandolier and mask

[white minnow]

dreg and scab stalkers have similar stats, though scab stalkers have worse damage falloff than dreg stalkers

[terse idol]

Samn, I didn't realise they were entirely different either but I guess their engagement range and accuracy was different from scab gunners

[white minnow]

stalkers will also tend to move closer to you instead of staying in place

[terse idol]

Or err scab shooters

[thick wolf]

I can barely tell the difference between dreg gunner and dreg mook

[white minnow]

compared to shooters

[tiny summit]

for the actual numbers its only missing my 17 dmg per shot compared to an 80% dmg recon

[thick wolf]

visually that is

[tiny summit]

also stalkers have more hp

[junior needle]

It did not do this for me

[terse idol]

das cray

[terse idol]

God damn that trigger discipline

0

[frank basin]

chaos do really trained

[placid portal]

Oh shit I think I mixed with lucius

[thick wolf]

wait yours has a red dot?

[white minnow]

oh yeah more of a las carbine

[terse idol]

I had no doubt they have trigger disciplne but god damn these pictures

[junior needle]

Mods do what fatshark don't

[terse idol]

Dredge Shooter roll up

[placid portal]

Also reflex sights revolver is just eh to me

[frank basin]

i think dreg only have 1 type?

stalker only

[placid portal]

Prefer irons

[white minnow]

yeah dregs only have stalkers

no dreg shooter

[frank basin]

scab stalker health:

[placid portal]

Somehow I got so used to revolver ironsight that the reflex sight hinders my aim

[elfin stump]

Scab bias

[white minnow]

being able to see the bottom of an enemy really helps with aiming for me

i think less so for semi auto weapons

[elfin stump]

[white minnow]

at least for automatics, I really want them good sights

[elfin stump]

Seeing the bottom, huh

[placid portal]

For sure autoguns are good with reflex sights

[terse idol]

God damn

The wiki isn't updated

They said the Dredge Gunner has 1050 hp

It has like 1400

[placid portal]

Kantrael is imo very good sights

[terse idol]

On damnation

And the Scab gunner has 1200

Not 900

[white minnow]

the infantry lasguns?

[terse idol]

WIKI PLS

[elfin stump]

Locals have a vendetta against mg12 sight

[placid portal]

Ye they are very simple and easy to line up

[terse idol]

if you're pulling from the wiki I'd definetly test it again

[white minnow]

my problem with them is that the sight has something like glass that dims stuff through the scope

[terse idol]

The wiki's outta wack

[placid portal]

Oh yea

[frank basin]

yeah its old

[white minnow]

the sights shaking aside, I really dislike that dimming

[placid portal]

The yellow part suvks

[terse idol]

urghhh

[frank basin]

i noticed the dreg gunner is outdated

health

on wiki

[elfin stump]

Update it

[idle carbon]

I've never had a problem with the kantrael sights

[tall torrent]

Keep unarmored, change crit chance to maniac
Thats a godroll HB2 right there

[placid portal]

Given how the heretics are wearing... uh YELLOW?

[white minnow]

I set a certain texture setting to low to basically make the yellow go away

[elfin stump]

It's a wiki ran by people

[frank basin]

democratic wiki fandom

@terse idol you do it

[terse idol]

I might later

Gotta sleep

[frank basin]

aw man

[placid portal]

FS plz let us change our reflex sight color

[placid portal]

Yellow line with dregs being yellow clothed is a bruh moment

[serene sage]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/me1Hfirwwk
This thread is hilarious
It's full of skill issue people begging to not nerf the plasma because it's the only thing keep them at high difficulty (some even said so explicitly).
Reasonable takes being downvoted.
Psykers complaining how unfun it is to play with Plasma gunners who are also downvoted.

[muted knot]

It's just crisp

[elfin stump]

Exec superiority

[thick wolf]

nope they won't because something something this game isn't Call of Duty

[placid portal]

[thick wolf]

how is it Call of Duty if I want my autoguns to have reflex sights

[serene sage]

At least the OP had some extremely based takes. Good for them.

[frank basin]

Call of Darktide

[frank basin]

weapon mod customization

theres server for that

[tiny summit]

tap firing with no consequence was a mistake and also its ammo pool

[placid portal]

^^

[terse idol]

True

[thick wolf]

oh no I've become aware of it after a friend told me about it

[terse idol]

And like the bolter Just being stricttly worse is

Fuuunnnyy

[thick wolf]

its just that if that was Fatshark's reasoning, that's just silly

[terse idol]

Or well boltgun

[placid portal]

Plasma so good that if a plasma gun is on the team I cant compete in killing elites

[terse idol]

I mean, iirc FS did say they were gonna add in weapon customization

[tiny summit]

plasma's cleave on tap fire shot be kinda neutered imo, so that its actually a choice to charge it

[terse idol]

Eventually™️

[frank basin]

are FS developer is sleeping?

[terse idol]

They are on vacation and there are more things that they want to make first

[thick wolf]

yeah, like they said they would add new classes every few months or so I'm told

[terse idol]

Many systems are on the back burner

[terse idol]

they technically did

[frank basin]

that vaccation is day 10 of jan 1 now

[terse idol]

We got 4 x 3 new keystones

In the time they were talking about

[frank basin]

how long swedish take vaccation?

[terse idol]

They said they would release a new class every quarter

[frank basin]

oh boy

[terse idol]

And they released 4 x 3 in a month

[frank basin]

what?

[terse idol]

I think it's still like Jan 20 or something

[frank basin]

4 x 3?

[terse idol]

yeah

3 key stones

For each of the 4 classes

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[terse idol]

Or well

[thick wolf]

9 days left to go ig

[terse idol]

3 key stones for 3 of the classes, and vet got 1 a little later

I mean don't quote me on that

It's a mandatory vacation time

[thick wolf]

well, 10 days depending on my timezone

[terse idol]

Dunno when it exactly ends

[frank basin]

so 1 class has 4 key stone?

[terse idol]

1 class has 3 keystones

there are 4 classes

[frank basin]

okay

what vet get keystone?

rework keystone?

[thick wolf]

I'm really liking this revolver rn

[terse idol]

So technically each keystone is a class

SO THEY DID get us the promise

[thick wolf]

tho since its from brunt I have little confidence it will help me through Heresy

profane and all

[terse idol]

we got 3 key stones, marksmens focus, focus target, weapon spec

[frank basin]

yeah

thats recap then

[terse idol]

yes, so technicalllyy

they did get us that promise

[frank basin]

i thought you means rework something

[thick wolf]

is it bad that if your skill tree didn't reach the keystones?

[terse idol]

noo

[thick wolf]

because I have like one more level left and I still didn't have one

[terse idol]

I mean sorry, I should have said

[frank basin]

mine never reach keystone, because i didnt use vet keystone that much

[terse idol]

We had that reshuffle

So vet could get a few more talent points and keystones

So it wasn't so tight

[terse idol]

it's fine

Depends what you're doing

Personally I would always use keystones, they offer alot

[tall torrent]

You can play without keystones just fine, it’s just that keystones bring an extra layer to your build

Tag keystone for example is just straight up more damage

[frank basin]

okay the class is concealed, ill be waiting what class they bring out

ogryn heavy gunner was fun

[junior needle]

Keystoneless is a perfectly good choice if you don't like the gimmicks or they don't support your gun well. Although middle keystone is universally good, I just hate having to ping every target to get value.

[frank basin]

not my veteran can be heavy gunner.

[thick wolf]

rn this is my "current" build

as level 29

its a mess

[tall torrent]

What weapon are u using

[thick wolf]

rn? I'm testing the revolver

last run? lasgun with shovel

[terse idol]

Definetly recommend trying weapon spec with revoler, it's alootta fun

[tall torrent]

For revolver I’d say volley adept is better than tac reload

It’s a strong anti-special gun

[serene sage]

I think the 5% health filler node at top can be removed to get Ping keystone

[tall torrent]

He’s going krak so he has to path through that node

I don’t think he needs tinkerer tho

Or VG + tac reload

[serene sage]

the fuck

he doesn't need it lmao

[tiny summit]

for most people tho you gotta balance "well what is actually fun for most players and how much should we cater to high difficulty", but also fatshark has a crafting system so when people get to 30 they want to play damnation only because its the most worthwhile dockets and resource wise. People aren't gonna like being skill gated to lower difficulties with lower crafting payouts when this system is already bad

[placid portal]

Tinker is amazing on shredda

[thick wolf]

this build somehow is enough for my ass to beat my first heresy run that just so happens to have hi-intensity fog

[tall torrent]

Tinkerer is really not needed with krak

[terse idol]

Oh right Fid doesn't

Because top right you can get rid of that

Because you already path to center

[frank basin]

WHICH I HATE SCAVANGER HUNT, GARRRRGH

[placid portal]

[terse idol]

There's no reason to have that extra node cconntecting top right to middle

[thick wolf]

I used to do fireteam until I switched to scavenger for that pesky fucking penance

[terse idol]

Since you already have middle to middle

[tiny summit]

though I would argue unless you want to play damn+ you really dont need to invest highly into any crafting but still the crafting payouts allow them to try out more stuff sooner

[tall torrent]

Fireteam on lower difficulty is fine

[tiny summit]

and numbers going up works on any gamer

[frank basin]

what?

[frank basin]

so just play the game?

without too focus on crafting material

[wanton dawn]

If you play long enough you hit a point where you just ignore mats

[tiny summit]

if you give players a crafting system and numbers you are encouraging them to chase the better numbers

[frank basin]

pretty much i have habits looking around maps for plasteel

[thick wolf]

I've seen a decent amount of randos who just ignore picking up crafting material

[frank basin]

like i can't self control it

[thick wolf]

either because 1. they have too mcuh of it

or 2. they think it isn't shared between teammates

[terse idol]

daatss craazyy

[frank basin]

i saw it too

not single person go collect it, it let me collect plasteel

[terse idol]

On Auric damnation my team and I will literally go out of our way to check a box in the corner of no where alone

just to find a smidge of plasteel

[tiny summit]

the crafting system is bad, everyone knows this. You dont need god rolls to do well even into aurics, decent players know this. Casual joe is gonna want what he can potentially have as building it is a part of a progression loop

[serene sage]

I still don't cause big number feels good

[tiny summit]

you feel like a you found a golden nugget when its a health stim or medkit in a far corner everyone else ignored

[frank basin]

i can't have fun without maxing my upgrade go damnation, bringing grey weapon feel weak a little bit.

[wanton dawn]

Buying 50 greys to hit 3 lvl 370+ that hadron will dump is not a fun game loop

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/pulp-fiction-gif-24706301

[wanton dawn]

5 min of my time i wont get back

Resources or not

[frank basin]

game is repeititive

is always been

has games gone too repetitive?

[wanton dawn]

I play to shoot

[frank basin]

same

i only want shoot the gun

[wanton dawn]

Not to casino

[finite imp]

Just wait till they patch it then lol

[frank basin]

but don't feel fun when guns shoot sponges

[terse idol]

I mean okay maybe at one point I was like "Uh, it's okay" Naw
This is the difference between Vt2

[tiny summit]

weapons feel good to shoot. heretic heads feel good to cave in. simple as

[terse idol]

You can EVENTUALLY get all red

But in darktide you can either get it on your 1st or 3rd time

Or your 1000th

IT's literally slots

[finite imp]

I see this channel hasn't changed lol

[wanton dawn]

Well, i am on my 1000th anyway so...

[tiny summit]

Darktide and gacha players arent so different

[finite imp]

Fluctuating between is this weapon good? And crafting sucks

[serene sage]

I just like hoarding mats like a dragon

[terse idol]

whaat

[frank basin]

sometime im rusty to play vt2 fail run sometime teammate looking challenges tomes and grimores on Legend difficulty made me not play to get red items.

[terse idol]

We just talked about a build like less than 5 minutes ago

[tiny summit]

there was a dude who posted like 30+ power swords hunting for PC4

[terse idol]

The infinite loop

[finite imp]

See?

[wanton dawn]

You missed pokemon hugging. New trend

[finite imp]

I hate this game keeps playing for 400 hours

[terse idol]

I don't haet it

We hate the systems

[finite imp]

Yeah. We all do.

[frank basin]

I like payday 2, no crafting system upgrade just shoot and repeatedly

[terse idol]

Look if I peel back the carpet, Zealot chat is like, talking about melee weapons, cats and getting angry too

Come ooon

[serene sage]

Yeah fuck the government

[finite imp]

Is zealot chat still full of femboys

[serene sage]

Rise up

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/anarchy-gif-23588171

[thick wolf]

but yeah, honestly

[wanton dawn]

Crafting is the crap minigame forced down your throat to get 100% achievement.

[thick wolf]

I had no idea what I was doing building my talent tree

[terse idol]

I dunno

[finite imp]

WE KNOW

[tiny summit]

I just realized the folding shovel counts as 2 hits with its flip to build on-hit stacks

[thick wolf]

just like 90% of the time I play Darktide

[terse idol]

you should do fukiinnn, try focus target

[finite imp]

Coming here to say crafting sucks is like pissing in a sea of piss

[frank basin]

we some how wish for mats conversion

[terse idol]

it's okay

We can say it

🥹

It's cathartic

[thick wolf]

I see something that benefits my guardsman, I click

[wanton dawn]

SO DONT IMPLY CRAFTING IS THE GAME

[thick wolf]

no thinking

[finite imp]

It gets posted on the reddit
Every
Single
Day

[thick wolf]

its also why I went for tac reload

because I want to reload fast

[wanton dawn]

And it will keep being posted until they cave

[finite imp]

Eh the other reload is better imo

[thick wolf]

speed cola brainrot

[frank basin]

when you panic attack you depleted all round get no benefit speed reloading @thick wolf

[finite imp]

They've already acknowledged it lol

[wanton dawn]

Cuz time dont make all crap stink less

[thick wolf]

no benefit speed reloading?

[finite imp]

And they don't read this discord I promise

[thick wolf]

where was it?

[terse idol]

I will say it's probably better to take one or the other

Alot of these talents at that top I'd really only take 2 of

They're good, but uh

Get a litttle pricy

[finite imp]

If you want to make their ears ring with your complaints hit the fatshark forums and get in line

[frank basin]

when you dump mag, tac reload only benefit when has 1 or more round in mag, dump all mag you won't get speed reload from tac reload

[finite imp]

Believe me. NOBODY likes the crafting

[frank basin]

vet chat arguement

not good

[finite imp]

Its where we agree on things aggressively

[frank basin]

i believe ya

[wanton dawn]

The whole point is that we dont interact with crafting at all

So it is just semantic really

[finite imp]

I mean I have godrolls of all my fav weapons. I beat the crafting system. Now I get to watch my friends who just picked the game back up slowly realize in horror what's going on

[terse idol]

I mean the truth is

[finite imp]

But I won't spoil it

They get to figure it out

[terse idol]

You can build most weapons to be "GOOD with baseline 70 minimum in damage*

With few exceptions

Most people will survive

[tiny summit]

the madness is only satisfying to see when they realize it

[terse idol]

Even playing auric damns

[frank basin]

talking about god roll we repeat ourselves stats slave like destiny 2.

[finite imp]

The meta is don't suck at the game

[thick wolf]

tac reload with my lasgun seems to do nicely

[finite imp]

People come in here like revolver sucks

[tiny summit]

I think most people can survive with sub 60s

[wanton dawn]

I still dont see the point of rashad though. Probably cuz ps is just better against rager

[thick wolf]

tho hmm, I'll probably take the empty fast reload with my revolver

[frank basin]

your choice

[tiny summit]

hell 50s

[finite imp]

And I'm like I think I know why you think that

[terse idol]

urgh

After leveling up a new vet at level 6

OH boy

[thick wolf]

since I'm just going to empty it anyway

[terse idol]

I would not go sub 60

those things are cursed

[frank basin]

are you playing new character?

[terse idol]

I just want to level up a loose cannon voice

"SOMETHING... SOMETHING... SNIPER!!!"

[frank basin]

oh, okay, you need some assistance?

[terse idol]

I'm gooood Also too busy

Putting em on the back burner

[frank basin]

like wise my friend always busy

[wanton dawn]

Lvl 15-30 is excrutiating xp wise. You still lack good stuff to deal with ogryns enemies and ppl in heresy still lack fundamental.

[terse idol]

Yeah

Oh my god, I tried the burst fire head hunter

[frank basin]

it suck?

[terse idol]

Literally died reloading because a gunner was behind a fence and I couldn't melee him

Yeah

[frank basin]

lol

[terse idol]

It doesn't do alot of damage, reloads slow

Stability stucks

This is honestly why Leveling vet is hard

These weapons SUCK

[hollow ibex]

agri or vraks?

[terse idol]

Volley fire suuucks

Vraks I think

I dunno

[frank basin]

well i would help you, my friend who asking me invite to play destiny 2

[terse idol]

It was very low power level

Oh hell yeah

If I had time

[frank basin]

you into destiny 2?

really?

i stop playing d2 because end content gatekeeping

[shut flax]

D2 is very gatekeepy, but if you find a good clan, the game is SO much better.

The hard part is finding a good clan...

[frank basin]

im dumb with raid mechanic

[shut flax]

Same. AD clear for days.

The only raid I can reliably sherpa is Deep Stone Crypt, but everything else is going with the flow.

[thick wolf]

also bungo cutting 3/4 of the content people pay for, including the original base game

my brother in christ just make Destiny 3 lmao

[shut flax]

The sunsetting thing really did a number on the game. Though, the seasons following the sunset were pretty good.

Now the suits refrain from fixing the game in hopes that players will hold out until The Final Shape and it actually fucked the dev team over.

Can't wait for the case studies on it. It was a MASSIVELY poor move on their part.

[thick wolf]

either that or Sony was deliberately sabotaging it so they can do a hostile takeover of Bungie

and then they'll turn them into cinematic over-the-shoulder third person game mining company

[golden nacelle]

Finally got brutal momentum 4 to drop for my baby

[rigid pilot]

D2 sunsetted content?

[thick wolf]

y e p

the original base game included

because fuck you

our game engine can't handle that amount of content

[rigid pilot]

Like straight up you can't play anymore?

That you paid for?

[thick wolf]

base game + iirc three original expansions

[terse idol]

frankyl I thought that happened when MW3 released,
Microsoft buys Blizzard
Blizzard-Activision makes the worse Call of duty imaginable on a small budget to hurt the brand and escape with the money before the CEO's get canned

Now microsofts left picking up the pieces of a broken brand

[thick wolf]

F for Sledgehammer

they just wanted to make Advanced Warfare 2

[thick wolf]

most typical murican triple A move

[terse idol]

😌

[thick wolf]

its not just small budget, MW3 reboot is supposed to be DLC to MW2 reboot, which I frankly also thought is mediocre

but they just slammed Sledgehammer with "lol make it under 18 months good luck bozo"

and remember, there are other games from other IPs that came out good, were also originally just expansions or DLC for the prior game, Vice City being an example

[tranquil bronze]

Why do we not have proper visored helmets?

[terse idol]

Eventually

Scion helmet jump scare

[errant carbon]

a) You gotta pay for those
and/or
b) GW inexplicably said no

[tranquil bronze]

I miss the old stormtrooper design

[tranquil bronze]

GW said no?

Oh wait, didn't read the middle

[errant carbon]

I liked the old school Kasrkin models. Scions are okay but the baroque armor design looks too much like Chaos

[tranquil bronze]

I like the new Kasrkin. It's why I ordered a box. They're better proportioned.

[forest scaffold]

what

Chaos and Imperium have like the most distinctly different sets of looks

[tranquil bronze]

I think I know what he means

It kinda does look a little chaos

[forest scaffold]

Chaos: Spikes. Spikes everywhere. Literally all of the spikes.

Imperium: Functional to the point of being almost useless - All that carapace armor is gonna be real fuckin heavy to cart around making long term fighting a problem.

he has literally ONE spike

in the fashion of german helmets from WW1

holy shit its sooooooooooooo chaos 🙄

[tiny summit]

Is it really a broken brand when it was still a top seller on steam?

[forest scaffold]

You're reaching big time is all I'm saying.

Like, sure, maybe you could get close with a Thousand Sons comparison

[terse idol]

Its the lowest rated to be fair

[forest scaffold]

but you're still reaching further than the Burj Khalifa due to the absolute lack of chaos symbols, spikes, and 8 sided wheel

[terse idol]

I mean

They got away with murder

Full priced game

[terse idol]

With no content

Campaign was a dlc

Packaged onto 70 dollars

[tiny summit]

Rejects aren't allowed

[gleaming ibex]

looks like french filligree to me

[errant carbon]

Its the raised edges of the armor with spikes pointing inward that make me compare them

[terse idol]

It looks like we're getting scion armour so

[forest scaffold]

so. . . literally every single aspect of carapace armor on all imperium soldiers across all regiments

makes you think

"chaos"

duhhell

[gleaming ibex]

the one they got ingame atm isnt very decorative fortunately

[terse idol]

The cadians also mention that they were Karskin so many times I'd be suprised if they didn't release karskin armour eventually

[tiny summit]

Lowest rated but how many are gonna eat their slop of yearly CoD? Every game company would love the money off a "bad" CoD year

[errant carbon]

Are you for fucking real

[terse idol]

Well whatever it was

[tiny summit]

SoonTM

[terse idol]

I guess the CEO's just decided to make bank and leave before being canned

[terse idol]

So they released a cod with the least effort and still made bank

[forest scaffold]

Yeah. The raised trim on armor edges is something that shows up on nearly all hard armor in the 40k universe

because it allows people to edge highlight easier on TT models

[tranquil bronze]

Kasrkin armor looks NOTHING like Scion

[errant carbon]

Raised trim with spikes pointing inwards

Rarely shows up on loyalists and when it does, it's never close to the same degree as on Chaos Marines

[terse idol]

I know

[tiny summit]

GW needs to partner with more figure companies. I don't wanna paint. I just want figures

[forest scaffold]

there's joytoy

[tranquil bronze]

I'm down for a Kasrkin action figure

[forest scaffold]

sex name aside

the figures are largely fine. Granted, they come with problems in total posability due to the bulkiness of everything 40k

[terse idol]

you'll be okay with painting em 🥹

Its fun

I just kinda wished they just ihh

Released smaller packs for miniature enthusiasts

Its a hard sell for me to buy a 75 dollar pack of a regiment of stormvermin to paint

[tiny summit]

Get my 40k figure fix and keep them next to my Honkai Impact Elf maid and Arknights waifus

[tranquil bronze]

I like JoyToy's Infiltrator figures

[forest scaffold]

I wish GW didn't charge 50 dollars for 4 models

[terse idol]

While I'm not gonna be playing with them

[forest scaffold]

there's less plastic per box for the same price in a GW kit than there is a fuckin gundam

and the gundam is a singular model

[terse idol]

It is what it is

I mean

OKAY

[tiny summit]

Went into a GW store in Tokyo

[tranquil bronze]

You can thank UK labor prices for that.

[terse idol]

To be fair it depends what gundam you're buying

[forest scaffold]

Its not just UK labor prices.

GW has a cornered market.

[terse idol]

Because different grades will increase or decrease the price

[forest scaffold]

So they can price gouge the shit out of it because they have functionally zero competition.

[tranquil bronze]

And also refuse to outsource their production to China.

[terse idol]

Real grade or master grade

GW isn't that bad all things considered

Which in this day and age whew

[elfin stump]

That's honestly kinda based

[rigid pilot]

It's not because they are based

[tranquil bronze]

They use precision injection molding... which is notoriously expensive.

[elfin stump]

Only real competition GW has is 3d printers

[terse idol]

I mean 3D printers are a thing so worst case someone can model a "not" astartes

[potent iris]

Magic the gathering cards out here being exorbitantly priced despite being just shiny paper

[terse idol]

Print them out for a fraction of the price

[rigid pilot]

It's because if you send the mould designs there, you will have 10 clones by the end of the month

[forest scaffold]

I have quarrels with MTG too don't worry Quinoa

[terse idol]

Magic when the 1 ring card

Oh my god that

[forest scaffold]

this isn't just a hateboner for GW

and their pricing tactics

[terse idol]

Or wotc sending the pinktertones

[potent iris]

oh I consider the whole thing overpriced af lol

[terse idol]

To someone's ducking house

[tiny summit]

Hey thanks. Some cool stuff here

[terse idol]

Cause they had a prelease copy or a card pack

[forest scaffold]

Yeah, i got a gray knight from Joytoy

[terse idol]

Wotc is so fucked

[forest scaffold]

left pauldron is loose

[tranquil bronze]

Clones made by slaves mind you

[elfin stump]

Oh and also there's tabletop

[thick wolf]

lol ok game

[forest scaffold]

and I still need to heat the servo skull so I can pose it correctly

[potent iris]

like it's all just a function of "because we can" when it comes to pricing of anything GW or Wizards or any other hobbyist shit like that which comes back to a major corpo

[forest scaffold]

but for the price, solid otherwise

[thick wolf]

give me a revolver just as I bought one and used it on a heresy mission

[elfin stump]

I know few friends who play Wh40k with tabletop sim

[potent iris]

it's nothing to actually do with labor costs or w/e lol

[terse idol]

Gonna say it but

[errant carbon]

I'm just old enough to remember when taking pictures in stores was frowned upon (because Chinese tourists would take pictures of products, e.g. designer clothes, and a month later there would be a Made In China knockoff)

[terse idol]

GW is so much better than wotc

[forest scaffold]

No

oh holy shit no they aren't

[errant carbon]

To damn with faint praise?

[terse idol]

Least they don't pull "one ring"

[forest scaffold]

There's uh

[terse idol]

What'd they do

[rigid pilot]

[forest scaffold]

50 rule books for the TT game?

Or more

There's like

4

for dnd

[terse idol]

That's war gaming

[forest scaffold]

Monster Compendium, Player's Handbook, Dungeon master's handbook

and uh

[terse idol]

Dnd has

[forest scaffold]

something else for dnd 5th ed

[terse idol]

The many advnetures

Wotc owns magic

They also

[elfin stump]

I couldn't care less about the rulebooks
They ceased and desisted the guy who was making the Astartes youtube series

[forest scaffold]

No they didn't.

They hired him.

[potent iris]

dndbeyond out here asking $60 for stuff you can just search on a wiki

[terse idol]

Tried to copyright people from even writing dnd content

Do you remeber that?

Like holy shit

[forest scaffold]

the best TT company by far is Catalyst Game Labs

and they shit on Harmony Gold

[elfin stump]

First time I hear of this

[forest scaffold]

so win-win

[terse idol]

People boycotted Dnd beyond so hard they backed up

[errant carbon]

WotC tried to pull a lot of sleazy shit with D&D because Hasbro felt it was "under-monetized", they would be a lot worse if they could

[tiny summit]

Damn. Kinda want.

[terse idol]

Yes

Wotc is scum

[potent iris]

oh yeah the botched OGL that had hasbro accelerating really quickly from fuck around junction to find out avenue

[elfin stump]

How is she holding that without power armor

[forest scaffold]

learn surgical and hand cannon off both

as the base stats are all bad

[thick wolf]

game gave me a XIV right after I bought the IIa

ok darktide

I see what you're trying to pull

[terse idol]

Like the amount of things wotc has done far outweighs gw

[forest scaffold]

I'm still out here shilling for CGL

and Battletech

if you want a real mini TT game

that's the way to go

one 20 dollar PDF

and you don't even need models

you can use soda tabs

[thick wolf]

I'm gonna plan doing that for the IIa

[forest scaffold]

or bottle caps

[thick wolf]

XIV's not my style

[forest scaffold]

as stand ins for the model

[potent iris]

pathfinder is pretty neat at least

[terse idol]

Yeah

Pathfinder 2e

New kobolds my beloved

[tranquil bronze]

IIRC, GW only has one single factory located in their HQ Nottingham.

[elfin stump]

All I know of pathfinder is WotR

[forest scaffold]

That said, I'm not really a huge fan of TTRPGs

[terse idol]

But I will stand by my statement

[forest scaffold]

You're at the behest of the table.

So its really hard to find a fun game.

[terse idol]

GW had balls to hire the guy that made the astartes animation

[potent iris]

I still like dnd for a lot of things but like ehhhh I could take it or leave it for the part, I'd likely just homebrew shit and use other TTs as a base

[forest scaffold]

At least DnD abandoned food/water/travel times

[terse idol]

Wotc shot themselves in the foot and hurt their brand image

[elfin stump]

Dnd is a platform for creativity

[terse idol]

You canvwtill do it

[forest scaffold]

and let players skip straight over loot management

[thick wolf]

living in a rock

[terse idol]

Editions are still floating

[thick wolf]

but who's WOTC?

or rather their full name

[forest scaffold]

wizards of the coast

[terse idol]

Oh my god don't even get me started on One dnd

[thick wolf]

oh

OH

[forest scaffold]

they've owned DnD for uh

years and years and years

[terse idol]

That's a hot balance mess

So fucked

[thick wolf]

aren't they the guys who send pinkertons on someone's house over cards

[terse idol]

Yes

[thick wolf]

I knew that name sounded familiar

[terse idol]

All I can say is your gripe with GW's pricing model is fine

You canvprobably survive with just

Your army codex

And the core rule book

[tiny summit]

Like how do you go "yea pinkertons"

[terse idol]

But wotc just fucks

[terse idol]

Wotc panicked

Wanted their pre-release content back without a fight and brought em in

We live in a society

[thick wolf]

but sending in the fucking death squad?

sounds like it would happen in 40k

not real life

[slender turtle]

How strong are sapper shovels right now? Never hear anything about them

[thick wolf]

sapper shovels are fun

great crowd control

[terse idol]

Well more like knee cap breaking union busters kek

[thick wolf]

they don't deal that much damage but they can knock a crowd

sapper shovel I mean

unless you use the funny spike

[terse idol]

If you build it right you can easily one tap crushers

[slender turtle]

Hmm. I wanted to use a different melee weapon for melee vet so i was wondering

[thick wolf]

truly a deathkorps of krieg moment

[elder dawn]

roger that sah

[slender turtle]

I dont even own that cosmetic set

Its this or i go for a solid devil claw

[terse idol]

Try both

[tiny summit]

Both good

[slender turtle]

I have used devil claw, i wanted to try shovel cause sticking a spades head into the head of a crusher sounded fun

[thick wolf]

I've converted myself into the shovel cult because of its crowd control

[slender turtle]

How is it with uncanny strike and the blessing that buffs weak spot damage on push?

[thick wolf]

that and it helped me earned that goddamn on overwatch penance

[tiny summit]

This mk3 shovel had hammerblow 4. I'm actually liking it with it to control hordes. Giving up its potential with its flip. But I put on carapace and thrust and so that's enough to 2 tap crushers

[slender turtle]

Whats the killing potential on it though?

[tiny summit]

1 tapping a crusher

[thick wolf]

for starters

[tiny summit]

With the flip

[thick wolf]

it can 1 tap a fucking mutant with the funny spike

if you aim at its weird hitbox

[tiny summit]

Yea mutant and below are 1 tap with thrust

[slender turtle]

ok. Whats the moveset difference between the two that can convert?

[tiny summit]

Don't remember. Mk3 has sweep lights

I know that much

[jaunty tinsel]

What is the best shovel for clearing hordes? + blessings/perks too plz

[thick wolf]

the mk3 and 7 seemed identical save for a few differences I think

[terse idol]

Its pretty easy, fs had a patch sheew they gave that shovel line easier headshits

Seemingly

Headshots

[elfin stump]

"They're the same, but different"

[thick wolf]

I just can't feel that much difference between them

but they're shovels, they're hilarious

[terse idol]

Are you listening to float city

[elfin stump]

Nah

[thick wolf]

next you tell me FS going to add a pitchfork melee for the lulz

[terse idol]

Darn

[tiny summit]

Feeling like I have phantom range with the shovel flip attacks for both vet and ogryn.

[terse idol]

Its that patch I'm telling ye

[tiny summit]

Fatshark just give me the helbore bayonet on an actual melee

[floral crow]

I wonder if fat shark has something cooking right now

[thorn lark]

mulled wine probably

[floral crow]

You might be right

[thorn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-right-you-right-i-know-thats-right-yas-gurl-gif-23655273

[floral crow]

Yeah

[forest scaffold]

Always.

They're just slow.

And its coming off winter break for them.

Be a minute before we get anything.

[midnight lark]

i have Power cycler , slaughterer and sunder at tier 4. Whats the right blessings to go here

[forest scaffold]

power cycler

replace groaners with unyielding or carapace

dealer's choice

[midnight lark]

so dump BM for PC and keep supercharge

[forest scaffold]

NO

HOLY SHIT NO

FUCK NOOOOOOOOOO

keep brutal momentum holy shit

Replace supercharge with power cycler

[midnight lark]

lmaooo

[forest scaffold]

brutal momentum lets you oneshot 4 ragers

with a critical hit

and 4 bruisers outright no crit required

[white minnow]

brutal momentum's description does not do it justice

[midnight lark]

my bad i thought supercharge was a good pick here lol

[forest scaffold]

naw its all good

[white minnow]

yeah no worries brumo is just completely unexplained in what it actually dies

[forest scaffold]

just wanted to keep you from making a very poor decision based on missing information(the real facts of BM)

[white minnow]

on a weakspot kill, your attack gets to maintain first target damage to the next target hit

[mental mulch]

in fairness, Brutal Momentum is so good that fatshark will probably nerf it

[midnight lark]

ahhhhh shit

ok

[forest scaffold]

yeah

say you do 700 flak damage

a dreg bruiser has 688 HP - and a flak head

brutal momentum lets you carry that onto an additional 4 targets

So you can oneshot 4(5?) of them per swing.

[white minnow]

with some buff from the tree, a special-light should be able to one-shot headshot dreg bruisers

I can do it with Precision Strikes (+30% weakspot dmg) on my psword roll

[forest scaffold]

just the 10% melee damage

or 30% weakspot damage

either one works

grabbing both is really funny.

Does funny stuff to bosses with powerful weapons(combat knife, power sword)

[elfin stump]

Tf is this weirdass number

Who gives a unit 688 health

[forest scaffold]

Fatshark™️

Its weird, but it makes dreg bruisers hard to build for for bps

which is a good thing, mind you.

Bruisers SHOULD be a perk enemy.