#veteran-class
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(please eat when you can yall. a full meal if able. 😢0
this depression shit got hands.
Gotta stock up on energy
It do be hittin.
was more for the pizza guy.
mhm of course.
Rah mentioned
Its like i like the idea of eating but my body does not
you don't throw yours in the smoke rack?

What the fuck is this?
Woah didnt know you were rich, way to show off
Bet you have real logs too
The smoke rack is reserved for the prime plastic steaks that you get at Toys R Us. The premium.
I eat Miqruo de Plastiques, let's not play games with my palette alright.
Only compariable to the coveted breaded chicken piccata from the highly established Mc of Le Donalds.
Really solidifies the plastic flavor
You don't have your mall season decoration wood on hand?
I...I don't know what to say
I really am living different.
It burnt up awhile ago
aw damn
I do have my star wars wookie forest scene log though
I garnish plastic bay leaves on every rice dish i make
the melted slime of the combined plastics really brings out the carcinogens
wonderful chef's kiss
Carcinogens are the secret sauce, obviously
You ever work in a ktichen?

They do more than kiss...
I havent..
ah
Missing out on the action
Apparently
Why even live
tfw no line cook blind dating
you're all in the same building, sweating up a storm...pulling and lifting crates...with your muscles.
uh
Yeah.
A little more into the people on grill. don't ask me shit.
People look good standing in front of a blooming fire, playing with meat.
Eh, fair.
Garmos can be sweet though.
thinks about the three dipshits er...maybe not all the time.
Dispo: ew.
Sounds like an interesting kitchen. Must've worked in the wrong places back when.
IT's a dice roll in every kitchen honestly.
Like a massive handful of weighted dice
in different numbers.
shit you can't even begin to think about reading
like sanskrit.
"Roll a D100 and anything above a 3 is a shit kitchen"
There was this one dude that showed up at a spot I was at who did like, pop up dinners and culinary for prisoners.
He uh.
😊 he had very nice hair and arms.
He fed me these amazingly sweet cherry tomatos.
Wow that's a pretty good roll
YEAH LIKE TOTALLY KEEP IT
Good thing we only talked about plasma guns for the last hour, whew.
Dang, those plasmas deserve a buff.
The blue reflecting off gruff features are just an added bonus that we considered.
PLASMA GUNS!
fuck now I'm thinking about the one dude that came in with a banana delivery.
So that's what they call it.
😐
Plasma.
Yes.
He was short and strong looking too. I let him show off.
(I just wanted to see how many crates he could lift)
imma shut up
my b yall
Same. Plasma.
🥹
also hat in time is a fun looking game
it's good
I've been meaning to play it.
I played up until the subway level
Everhood is also a good time.
Yuuhh
how people feel about the helbore lasguns?
Bayonets
It gun that can stab instead of shoot
Considering that we had a totally normal conversation about a relevant topic for the last while, I'd say that helbores are good for middle of the road gameplay. You're not meant to swap it out.
they feel really fun, but also underwhelming in strength to me
tried it in a no ammo consumption build. when I replaced it with a laspistol, the power skyrocketed 
They can be fun, just don't compare it to other weapons.
lol ight
See which helbore works best for you in a vaccuum and go from there.
If you find that laspistols do the job that you want to do better, just swap over and do some testing there.
(also I may or may not have shirked work for the last hour ish so I gotta still do that rip)
I am a big fan of using whatever you want, underpowered or not, just wanted to know if I was the only one who felt like the funny bayonet guns were actually below average
The have some of the best melee in game
Funny bayonet guns are pretty popular.
Also it's pretty alright vs everything charged
Nobody's gonna kick you for using what you want. You might get a hard time using recon, though.
but folks focus on the bayonett
does the bayonet benefit from ranged skills or melee? both?
^
I think it does benefit from attack speed from Weapon's Specialist, but I can't confirm.
The charge speed of the helbore is not impacted, however.
it benefits from some melee
There is a bayonett build if ya wanna peep by Mr. Craim
I enjoy buildmaking so if I make one I'll do it myself, but thanks 
Shame limbsplitter interaction was fixed
Canon bayonet of guardsman vs any monstruousity 
the guardsmen hopping on the monstrocitiy with pogo stick interaction
😌
I wish I could add the bayonet on more weapons
The bash of Brauto is nice and all
but I would prefer stabbing the mf
It would be interesting on a columnus
Or a laspistol
Just fuckin jam it in the back of something
replacing special actions between flashlights, bayonets, and shoves would be pretty cool
Every guard player with all bayonets 
There was supposed to be something like that added, but that got scrapped. There's a mod that allows you to do something similar.
Only visually to my knowledge
For example, I added a flashlight to my revolver for when I want a quick run.
oh yeah flashlights work too
Did a lights out auric and it saved my life
Also I'm finding myself liking lights out more and more. The slow gameplay feels nice.
I play Xbox unfortunately
A pain in the ass they scrapped it, and probably on late dev
It's understandable. The game was launched a bit barebones. Could've been rushed.
tbh being able to alter the special actions could maybe hurt the balances
Probs added a bunch of stability issues.
I would like it a bit more if enemies had less accuracy
though is peak mood
like if a weapon is designed to be defenseless, putting a shove on it would kind null that design choice
Cosmetic mod lets you put bayonets or flashlights on guns but only the flashlights work obviously.
If it's true the mod just enables existing features then there is some hope.
I mean Q + R1 is not time intensive
Change weapon and attack

lights out are very fun
Pinged a flamethrower who was basically invisible reloading besides a teammate rezzing another. Was actually horrifying watching it almost shoot.
Let them die
Eh, I like helping people.
Ayyy that looks pretty good
T5 is gonna make me turn like that
Is cheesy and soupy
the amount of times I need to convince myself
Would go great with some bread
I am making toast
Perfect. magnifique.
Holy shit.
That looks incredible.
You got some skills
You sure you don't have anything about you that's dope my guy?
Seeing otherwise rn.
Is a simple things I does
Thanks my creativity
I rarely get motivate when there’s ingredients in fridge
As long there’s something like meats I can make something out
just got this from a mission, are the blessings good?, does deathspitter add dmg or just stagger
Deathspitter and fire frenzy are good, maniac is also good. Just swap specialists to flak/unyielding and bump up maniac imo

Could even go silly mode and use it on a crit build with +carapace for anti crusher
Don't actually do that
mourningstar chow hall
You want dumdum, it's an incredibly good blessing right now. Absolutely the best IAG blessing by far.
It's bugged to use the code for zealots annoint in blood, giving it massively more usage range.
Specialists>flak and either ff or DS to dumdum would be objectively the best play. I'd recommend taking off FF because DS gives power.
Hey look I recognize the steez when I see it.
Glad you got some food in you. Currently setting up some dim sum rn.
Vegetarian kind of a filling but it's fine. Pan frying them since I don't feel like setting up steam rn.
Got three more dallops of the protein filling left that I'll double up for.

top tier emojis lol
Be careful about getting jebaited. I recommend using the search function for second opinions and for multiple people to chime in if possible.
i'm fairly new to the game, still need to add stuff to the blessing library, so for now it'll remain as it is, but in the future i'll swap the blessing and the perk for a more cohesive build
Just keep in mind that there are some things that are objectively better choices than others in this game. Also some outright terrible choices.
Like terrifying barrage
only works on the human soldiers, right?
I heard it doesn't work as its supposed to
How terrifying works is it suppresses enemies in an area around you on close range kill. Almost every single melee enemy (what will be around you 98% of the time) is outright immune to suppression, excepting groaners, which are instead barely affected by it.
it works but basically all melee enemies don't get suppressed
It's a functionally useless blessing

ouf, well that answers one of my questions, terrifying sounded great on paper: Snipe something, everything around you gets a small stagger would have been great
well, note for future self, don't use that perk
speaking of useless: is this really only for "ranged close damage"?
It may not be since FF says the same thing and it applies at all ranges. I haven't tested it.
Close range is
7/8m
Was using it on a "mostly melee build" but someone said, the damage bonus only applies my ranged weapon, not my melee :3
I also got this from a mission, nothing has been changed to it, I pair it with my mk1 knife vety build, works well so far, but would you change anything?
I know that close damage from dumdum applies to DoTs so I assume it's a global damage boosy
just that it falls off with range
Gotta get Surgical, Handcannon
Maybe glory hunter to "%rending on crit" and the critical damage to carapace, or unyielding? But probably depends on your build
Dumdum is unique in that it uses the anoint in blood zealot code
Perks are kinda dead but
oh shit
Dumdum?
damage boosy
4/4 scuffed. You want surgical/handcannon (you can bypass surgical if you're going weapon spec) and probably flak maniac perks.
damn 
Gloryhunter with Surgical and Speedload with Hand Cannon.
here I was thinking I got a nice one
shush
Speaking of weapon spec, currently using that with hand cannon and it ROCKS! But specialist says "33% crit chance per stack for 5 seconds", that would result in 100% crit chance for 5 seconds? doesnt seem right:
getting the right curios is being a real pain in the butt man
First shot only it seems, still great, but bad writing wthere
yeah
curios is the easy part

Right? Been stuck on my 10-14% toughness curious forever, armoury guy dislikes me i think x)
I usually get a green curio, upgrade it once, if it rolls a bad perk, I leave it there
wait for the next one
Plus decent base modifiers, but i assume you mean upping weapons that already have that
hey veterans you will probably know more about chainswords
would this be a decent chainsword to keep ? (psyker main mostly)
yeah
What mod shows the actual stats?
The gamba
This would've been REALLY good a while ago
Was only ever your next shot, but it used to have an inaccurate description. It's been updated now.
❤️
Na, even on patch 13 the 2 was still abysmal dps wise. But at least you'd have better ammo efficiency.
AH thanks, im using a mod, that is supposed to make the descriptions better, but that one still seems flawed.. rest is better at last ^^
has hadron responded to my pleas ?
It's fine. Shredder stat only affects the specials for chainswords. You want wrath/rampage on it for horde clear. Flak/unarmored perks unless you actually hit naked ragers, then flak/maniac is an option.
Given the current nature of rager packs, it's advisable to just shoot them. Rager attacks are also undodgeable, uniquely.
4/4 scuffed
these three basically have the same blessings and stuff
but the perks and base stats are what I cant decide with
stamina regen
Stamina regen is good, resistance is also good, ability CDR depends on your playstyle.
Toughness regen only applies to passive regen, I believe.
Makes for a good Deadshot build too.
toughness is my go to
stuff good
stam regen does more than start your coherency uptick now?
except exprience at 30. thank you hadron
for vet my highest win rate is 2 stamina +3 curios and a wound.
came into zealot chat stanning stamina regen, the whole world comes down on me, I guess it's less important for zealot
maybe you want that secret level to be higher
3 +3 for funny Target Down stamina returns
thats cool
highest level I came across was like 2.5k
but i also use the agripiina mk1 and deadshot so i make good use of that stamina
thats ridiculous
that guy needs to calm down
get a life literally
that boy was dedicated for a year of public beta testing 
a year?
Toughness on the top and either gunners or snipers for hound
it was like a month
maann chiilll
Bleh
we are literally on a discord for a gaaym
I mean in terms of swapping out
first year of darktide might as well be public beta
hater
im here for the aesthetic and dilxs\
x is f
chat block smh
but I love this game! probably gonna be like him. All my characters 100+ since starting with class overhaul update
oh baby but 2.5k? never in my life
Uh, what?
What the flipnarp
dilftide
Is this chatgpt posting
huh your French flag shows up properly on mobile
all the same
Discord has a habit of doing that
??? rager attacks are undodgeable ?
whats the stat dummp on combat knife
Mobility
some people hate themselves and say mobility.
madness.
But yeah it's not the most immediately important stat
undodgeable in the sense that you can't spot dodge them
is there a minimally accepted mobility?
as long as mobility is at 50%+ i think
You can still get away from them
you can physically move away but their combos have a long dodge catch
@glacial yacht roughly this
I personally never compromise on mobility but that's because I'm a freak and need my adhd to be fully sustained by how many more times I press buttons than other people.
thanks. just spent like 500k and got some acceptable ones but nothing god rolled
well what did u get
Im sure i backwards dodged and sideways dodged from ragers before, but i tend to use "quick" weapons, with longer dodges than the bigger ones, that might be a factor
lmao fuck
Knives tend to need every stat, but mobility is a fairly safe dump since it has good dodges even if you don't get past 50%
Just don't go too hard on it
I mean.
You need every other stat high
Especially first target
No choice but to dump mobility
too bad mine has unyielding
Just don't go below 50
it's not...bad with what you got rn but you'll have to push yourself a little more
Gonna try to get a good shotgun roll. I wonder how good a crit shotgun does with Flachette into flame special round.
that combo can be a real slog.
yeah Ive dodged the first hit of one of their combos before a few times, but it gets spotty after that
since we're talking about knives... Is precog good ? crit on it bc its on my zealot
Ragers have a tendency of getting locked into an animation and hitting the air, so while their attacks can miss you, if they connect, you can't really dodge out of it. Crab talked about this awhile back.
I thiiiink it can oneshot poxwalkers, but I'm not sure.
Flesh tearer is pretty bad
precog one of the best to work with
easy safe combo is precog uncanny
flesh tearer is top tier wdym
for veteran, but zealot may be good?
thats true, thats why i usually just run away even further after the first dodge against ragers x)
It works a lot better without the added veteran investment to push the knife harder.
well depends on the situation
that's personally the biggest issues I've had with flesh/mercy on veteran
Flesh tearer is ok but I wouldn't take it on vet, not enough crit available.
Ideal is uncanny + precog/mercy killer/executor/riposte
ragers are a DPS check or a "do I have VoC or nades" check
very spooky fellows
For vet knife
I end up turning my build into a knife build when I'm not necessarily trying to do that.
with flesh/mercy
It's a little annoying at higher levels.
In that order of decent blessings btw
Doable
reciprocity begs to differ
but annoying as fuck
this is my dagger, works well on a specialist build:
im testing it in the psy and get constant crits on vet
Want to get IV Riposte of course, buuuuut.... well xD
Bleed knife is a meme when precog knife can 2 shot a crusher
hey look I'm with you on this. do it up, play with it, learn about it in action.
If ur just trying to proc mercy just take the L and grab bleed on the tree
Instead of dropping 60 percent finesse
For meme bleed
Personally I don't like that combo specifically but it'll still do something.
especially if you're particularly obsessed with your knife play.
then you'll be able to at least hold your own on defense. would recommend maybe something to aid with your mobile playstyle for a gun if that's what you're going for.
precog is dumb
much much easier on oneself.
precog is just a loud obvious choice on knives aside from its efficacy in the long term currently.
Lacerate is unfortunately a trap blessing, due to knives having very poor damage on non-crit/weakspot hits.
getting 2 seconds to go ham on a dodge seems bad
bonus on dodge on a dodge friendly weapon where you're gonna be dodging?
I don't think you're quite getting the juice of that blessing.
in comparison to bleed it seems bad tho
In comparison to a slow dot it's bad?
Can confirm, I have several knives between vet and zealot.
For a weapon that ideally is bursting down single targets?
I encourage you to really understand a weapon you're very interested in.
so that you can explore all of it
a slow dot that lets you do 60% more weakspot damage for the duration
Sooo... would mercy killer trigger after the bleed from serrated knifes? or only on the second hit?
taking bleed on tree is insane
Yeah so insane who would want 10 percent melee dmg node above it
at the end of the day, you're still running a knife. as long as you're not fumbling all over yourself, run the bleed style I say.
you lose out on so much damge on the lower trees
precog+uncanny+serrated i guess?
so first hit does meh and second oneshots?
You don't need serrated if you're not running mercy
i actually need to try that
Serrated is just to proc mercy if u run it
You also lose out on 60 percent finesse dmg by running bleedmeme
how are graia infantry ags compared to the other two?
Yeah serrated as a talent is basically just for proccing mercy killer on knives.
for a literal 2 seconds
It's good
I like it
thats like 2 hits
I get where you're coming from but seriously.
About the same damage as agri, less damage than ciag but still fairly good.
Are you like not constantly dodging on knife
If you are running that blessing, you are going to be dodging alot
This isn't a weapon good at clearing horde and trash lol
U use it to weave in and stab high value targets
\that's consistent added burst per stab and push attack and blah blah blah
And yes, you're knife
So u always have things to dodge
those 2 seconds are important for you.
Because you're already going to be making faster decisions in tighter situations.
If ur standing there flailing your arms at a horde play a different weapon
does the finese increase damage and crit
Yes
mhm
Very significantly
Knife isnt the best for horde, nor the best for elites/specials, but the mobility just opens so many opportunites to kill the heretics ^^
Me too random guy, me too
In terms of dps it doesn't kill specials the best but importantly
fuck the damage I want my stupid stab
It oneshots flamers
its pretty sick for horde with flesh tearerIV
And the mobility let's you travel to gunners easily
And the speed the reposition yourself for a clear ranged shot is very valuable
you can do better with it, doesn't mean you should just cast what you enjoy out the window just cuz you're getting extra info
run the bleed
I do it
Exactly, play the weapons you like, youll be automaticly better at them ^^
Hell I'll do it rn
im aware im allowed to run it lol we are discusing different talents
If you want a horde clear weapon I suggest something that outright one-shot them instead of watching them die to a slow dot with a weapon that has no cleave
Yeah I know I'm with you on it. I'm encouraging you even.
Idk about new knife tho
Breakpoint this, breakpoint that, break these blood vessels.
I don't want to roll knife again so I haven't tried the new movement much
not a fan of the new knife combos
I can't say
After so much plasteel sunk into old knife I don't wanna do it again lul
new knife is...actually more interesting than I thought it would be, but not on the class I'd think I'd like it more on
It doesn't feel like shit on my gun psyker. granted I'm not quite where I'd like to be yet but it's not awful.
I don't mind it on zealot, I just like my economic stabs a little more tbh
on vet, haven't tried it
I'm disappointed that the lights on the new knife seem to have the exact same cleave as the old one
plus, for my knife vet builds, the knife is mostly just a cherry on top. I'm usually making more use of gun play.
I think they're actually just more narrow sort of.
You gotta like
actually play a little closer than usual.
it's a little odd at times.
I tried it in the psyk with enemies stacked on top of each other
but i'm just not used to it yet
Didn't penetrate any more enemies
ah
Very disappointed
I don't use the training mode mods.
But at least for me, I still get my brain feel good juice
Highly recommend, very helpful
I'm a vanilla bitch with modding in most games. I get like maybe two
and that's it
but I do like what I've seen with these ui mods tbh
for psyker at least, actually kind of helps me not mismanage some things better.
really minor stuff that I'd iron out with more play.
Darktide calculator for damage breakpoints against enemies. Developed by ManShanko.
I just use this when it comes to cleave numbers
And yes new and old knife lights are the same
minus the pokey third
Yeah the new knife just has worse lights, because the old one has extra damage on the third attack
But they all have the same cleave
Is this worth using, or am I better off taking surgical from it?
I basically just realized I was missing more of my lights on the new knife
okay then
using new knife till I'm sick with it.
It's good
o7
Swap specialist damage
Idk if you need flak since I don't play mk1
Probably isn't bad at least though
it's okay if you run out of edit slots.
definitely overkill that could be placed elsewhere but it's not bad by a long shot
you'll at the very least guarantee easier kills on stuff that's already in danger of getting hit by the hellbore
Lower charge rate isn't the worst on helbores anymore after the advent of surgical
replace onslaught with no respite for more bayonet power
Yikes. Just had an auric maelstrom get turned sideways because a someone shot a burster. it happens, but dang.
three way aids
It was me, I did it
I knew it
Wearing the Krieg outfit curses me to have bad runs
I just joined a fucking run and instantly got swarmed by 12 ragers with 3 dead teamates
Like just right now
that's just the emperor's will in action there.
your bathroom info is unnecessary
gosh
"Krieg gives me the shits" - Sun Tzu
The Art of Warp
lel
get rec'd a darktide build video on youtube
"meta veteran autogun build"
no confirmed kill for infinite toughness
no grenade regen
takes right side cornerstone partial reload on meleekill for some godforsaken reason
showcases spraying into poxwalkers
My favorite flavor
"we can pump out some serious damage with our columnus"
magdumps a crusher and only does half damage to it
buddy nothing is going to make the columnus do "serious" damage to crushers
you can maybe whittle one down if you have spare ammo and thinning one or two down at range is important but lel
Not like that
content creators doing sedition builds fr
then like what, huh?
are you walking back on your words now?
I mean instances
I know. I was trying to be funny. I failed.
Ditto
3rd time will be the charm

tell me your favorite jokes
Important note: Don't revive people getting hit by crushers. Even if you're to the side of the crusher, the massive bullshit hitbox of an overhead will still kill you.
Important note: Don't revive people getting hit by crushers. Even if you're to the side of the crusher, the massive bullshit hitbox of an overhead will still kill you.
Now THIS is solid advice
also rezzing people in fire
stand up and instantly take a massively scaled up fire tick
and just instantly fucking die on the spot
That spicy chaos zaza
so I can rez the ogryn and kill him immediately
so he can't block my shots?
2 out of my last 3 games have been me joining into the end screen of a loss 
Always tragic when that happens
Does Stamina regen on curious affect stamina gain speed, or the delay?
I believe it's specifically the speed at which you gain it back
Rather than how long you gotta wait before you start regenning
Free materials 
i fucking love plasteal
Afaik its just the regen speed
Delay is determined by class
And vet has 2 nodes on tree that further reduce it
Stamina regen on curios is exclusively the speed after the delay kicks in
Regen rate, not delay
U can only reduce delay with talent nodes
usually im all grumpy about this currency that i use mostly to gamble. and i hate gambling. but im rolling hot today so...
Gamers, since I barely use exec stance
Does refreshing it refresh the 5s outline for my buddies or do I only get the outline once?
And also, should I get the ogryn modifier, does the highlight modifier also starts highlighting ogryns for the good folk being tortured by me?
no and i don think you can run them together
then probably
I believe it refreshes the outline
it does not
Aw
been using it alot recently
Also it’s better to do ranged enemies rather than ogryn because you’ll refresh a lot more
Base delay is, but that doesn't mean the regen perk doesn't affect it. Although this is fatshark, so it's very possible it doesn't despite toughness regen doing both.
Ogryn is such a stupid node in general
Why would I want to highlight the biggest enemys in the game ?
Am I afraid of missing them otherwise ?
it'd be better if it still gave you a damage bonus like it used to
contraversial but I think some weapons can make use of it
Boltgun
i used to like it when running mk3 helbore or plasma
because i don't need VF to kill small trash with
I would argue plasma can use it too
but refreshing off ogryns to kill the whole patrol is nice
it's just that plasma is stupid
It absolutely can but still
due to the insane mag, the other one is better
It just highlights them right ?
it's so that you can keep running the ult
on bolter you don't want to prio trash
you shoot big guys and you reload
accept that you are not perma chaining it
I can do that without taking the node tho
slug shotty can use the same logic
you don't get the duration refresh
on ogryns
it's just target prio
Cause I don't see the point, maybe I'm too tired to understand your point
To have more enemies to refresh it on
it's definitely at the bottom of node-usage
And to see the enemies you need to kill during low visibility situations
i mean it USED to be good before the talent tree rework
So it's a niche pick in vent purge and lights out ?
but now it's not
Low visibility doesn't happen exclusively with modifiers
they should at least allow you to take both instead of locking one
If that were the case I'd totally understand
I remember when counterfire turned the game into a point and click adventure
Still does, only now you're not immortal
Well left keystone makes you surprisingly sturdy
So decimator/uncanny strike for old shovels ?
I imagine Its flak/maniac for perks
I meeaannn
If you're strictly trading with gunners
You can pretty well tank all gunners you're blaasting
With marksmens focus
I miss being immortal using it.
I was a tank
Veteran have a lot TDR but scuffed condition
How bout you headshot kill this guy 3 time for 3 stack of 10% TDR
does that mean 30% or 0.1 x 0.1 x 0.1 TDR?
I mean that's pretty easy
Now I wish I knew how much it actually gave... 
That’s what you said while saying I shouldn’t say people skill issues on Mael Auric smh


in general, same source is additive, different source is multi
so if you have 10 3 times, that's 30%
but if you have 30% from that, and 50% from IW, you multiply them
or it could just make you take 30% more damage
that's how it was for like 2 months to be fair
sniff did somebody just fart in this elevator?
4 ogryns with fresh latrine shovels 


Question for a relative newbie. As somebody who prefers shooting, and particularly sharpshooting, what's the best types of guns I should be looking for?
Infantry Lasguns, Revolvers, Heavy Las pistols
Vraks 7
Helbores
Helbore with right setup can just remove yourself from the ammo drops in the game
Depend on what you want to shoot, Full Auto or Burst or Semi
im 300 hours in this game and i swear i've never seen this take a swing blessing
I wouldn't recommend Hellbore, Because IronSight + Gimicky
Looking like sniper mode. Semi-auto mainly.
Helbore irons good
Helbore or Headhunter autoguns
You could proceed to try Vraks Mk VII Headhunter AutoGun
Currently using a Boltgun, but not loving the ammo capacity, but I am loving the damage.
It have a high modifier against Headshot, it reward you for taking precision shot
Or take the true path and go helbore
infantry lasguns have my heart for the moment with regards to semi-auto
Huh??
Maybe if they download the weapon customization mod
only thing is that i despise the sights on infantry lasguns
Jesus. The gaming population not growing up with WW2 shooters has made them soft to iron sights
helsnore lasgun
ww1
Even WW1 doesn't have scope this bad
they were worse 
it's like a smoothbore kind of sight
WW1 shooters were the minority
*iron
Me look at 98k ironsight be like
atleast it have funny circle of dot
Thanks for the advice. Will try a couple of the things mentioned. Ironsights are not a problem for me,.
How I see hellbore iron rn
I like open irons. Never liked the closed dots
That's a terrible opinion Nahcies frfr
i blame battlefield one flopping hard
that coulda been the game
Fuck your hellbore mk2 ironsight
Battlefield like ww2 was okie
Look at Mk3 Hellbore Iron
It's so much better
it even have little square for you to see at the end of the barrel
Mk2 Hellbore Iron be like
Also helbore mk1 and mk2 have a good bayonet stab that can even stagger ragers.
Mk3 - slowest charge, highest dmg, shit bayonet
Mk2 - fastest charge, lowest dmg, good bayonet
Mk1 - in between the 2, good bayonet
"Smooth"
Every old war CoD after WaW has been disastrous
waw was such a good game
when cod was genuinely good
was the first game with zombies in it
iirc
CoD Vanguard has laser weapons and reflexes on all the weapons
"Lore accurate" 1942 holographic sights with modern reloads really do set the mood
I could never understand people who bought CoD multiplayer yearly
Like 1 every few years was enough for me
Habit?
You know there’s parent that doesn’t play video games anymore
Actually mad because out of all the future ones I likes AW multiplayer. Dashing and lasers was fun
hey guys what is your melee knife setup for veteran?
once upon a time you didn't know what would happen I guess
cod4 was good then mw2 was good then mw3 was ok
and there was no darktide yet
There's also the fact that
early on, each version did have substantial changes from the last
just like how iphone 6 had quite a bit more features than iphone5
but as time goes on, idek what the difference between iphone16 vs iphone15 is
You can interchange all the new MWs
What would the best shovel be for a Kreigsman build?
Uh. Shovels good
Folding shovels give a niche in being able to handle maulers and crushers better
Better than a caxe?
Depending on build. You can 1 tap a crusher with the folding shovels
i usually run standard issue with kraks
the poke is good for getting ragers and crushers off you
What are the recommended blessings for shovel?
Bad take 
My kreigsman build is running the Krak grenades, so crushers/maulers are taken care of
This shovel buildable?
half a brick
Don't you struggle with hordeclear with that setup ?
Folding shovels want thrust to make the most out of the flip
no, take a swing + heavy attacks clears hordes well
Take a swing only works on lights no ?
if you take trench fighter you can get 3 heavies off with the weakspot bonus
if you got a few stragglers you can just chop them up with light attacks
Also take a swing buffs the crap outta the push attack that already has insane weakpoint modifier

So which shovel is the best or will any shovel work?
yeah standard issue push attack works well with take a swing
theyre all good, standard issue if you want a more defensive weapon and the other two marks if you want a more offensive weapon
apparently "Agile Engagement" affects the helbore's bayonet attack... stabbing an enemy makes your next shot to 25% more damage, and that shot will, in turn, make your next stab 25% stronger.
mk3 imo is a good pickaxe use, you can kill muties in 1 heavy but 1 light on max uncanny stacks
Hyup
Which one is trench fighter ?
the 15% atk speed
10% attack speed
got nerfed to 10% but yeah
it's a mixed bag of things
And not as important
Wep spec shovel tho...
desperado imo is good enough
i have my build set up kind of like a scab stalker enemy
range las but some melee focus
Like the rotation seems fine
Buffs running out by the time your bolter is out
you can animation cancel the bolter out
shouting do be good at that
still a unsusable 🧱
Boltgun Kantrael sights are goated AF
Shoot someone with crucian/handcannon revolver> swap to shovel>push>Heavy for 3s> repeat
also it finally happened yesterday
what should i swap out?
What's the all those green indicators popping up ?
Infernus
the spider sense mod since silent specials are a bruh moment
For surgical
lets you see specials
which perk should i replace?
Infested
Absolutely infested
yeah well its hardly fair to get poxbombed by something that made 0 noise as well
Unyielding good
Unyielding likely pushes breakpoint to 2 or 1 shot right?
With a crit yeah
for reapers/bulwarks
Oh yea. I got a random stuck in the chaos spawn
ye mk2 do be kinda weird in bps
Only Hellbore I haven't really ran yet
I tried, it's a fast weapon
yeah it the mk 2
I'd argue it's a sidegrade of the MG12 Kantrael
Hold up a minute
i like the stabby stab
its really based because quitting does not fix it
Mk2 good
you basically have to abandon the game entirely
I don't know about surgical on mk2
Lucius mk2 is if the Kantrael MG 12 is actually good vs Carapace
It's still good

Since you just spam that shit with onslaught (I would guess)
I'm actually liking my mk2 w/o onslaught w/ at least 70 charge
How does it compare to mk12? Doesn't it shoot a lot faster than mk12
Same ammo use but can deal with crushers
It's a spear with a free gun
Then It would still have the weird ghost inputs
Well I don't have an optimal mk3 shovel but I like hammerblow with the lights and I can 2 tap the crusher w/ carapace and thrust
uncanny is pretty cool since you make certain breakpoints at times
so, swap infernus out?
Pretty much
and swap infested for flak or maniac?
and what would be the blessing i would replace for infernus?
ye
Infernus kinda meh without a good way to make crits
Surgical
surgical is the truth
thx
You could try out what breakpoints you reach with each
hmmm...
Maniac does ensure BPs vs Flamers
Does it no hit those without ?
on non crits*
what bp?
1 shot headshot
Maniac. Mk2 makes flak bps nicely. Only enemy you're not making I think is scab ragers even with flak dmg
Breakpoint aka the required damage to take on less shot to kill something
ah
Go into meat grinder and try to 1 shot the scab gunner
If you can 1 tap it, don't bother with flak
Not happening
Mk2 do have good flak modifier
with a charge shot i 1 hit gunners
Uh yea happening
I do find it ironic all the “precise” tagged weapons tend to have iron sights.
2 headshots for armored ragers
You wanna tell me MK2 has a better gunner one tap than mk1 ?
Cause I might be tripping
I snipe with boltgun. It’s good for picking off ranged enemies.
But I don't think I oneshot scab gunners on the head
Boltgun do be a weird Marksmen weapon
Don't they have like 1.2k hp ?
so maniac, right?
“Damn missed the head. It’s ok though cause his torso is gone.”
it's like using a M2 Browing Heavy Machinegun like a Sniper rifle
is this worth keeping?

If you hit that bp then yes probably
I say yeah
Semi auto is semi auto!
It's not amazing but should do work just fine
I guess that would depend on your build. My mk2 with 80dmg, no flak and at least precision strikes 1 taps scab gunners w/o crit
i get that 1 hit for gunners, ye
Plasma recently replaced my bolt. No zoom is a shame but can mouse1 everything to death.
Its basically hitscan anywho
To make dreg gunners you either need 1 or a combination of unarmored perk, Longshot, kill zone or elite dmg in the tree
I can be annoying though cause sometimes I’ll head shot a gunner and it won’t die. And if the head shot doesn’t kill you might as well just double tap them in the body.
plasma head hitbox is really finnicky for me
so I think you're not alone
Well
You do gotta build for the gunner BP, and it might be a range issue if you don't have longshot
I saw yellow dot!
Battle pass
Longshot and elite dmg can make up for lack of unarmored perk
Plasma needs Long Shot for Dreg at the minimum
Oh breakpoint
luna what
Darktide BP incoming
you aren't new, you should know this 😔
and done
the fuck are you doing then 
A dead gunner is a dead gunner and plasma is ammo efficient if you don’t suck with it.
I DON'T KNOW
go to sleep
Can't
And helbore is psyker staff
me 2 weeks ago
Coffee moment
Minus the part you blow yourself up
you blow up from not knowing when to swap into and out of it and die from poxxies
Men are truly their own worst enemies
Well yeah
But this isss why we build dah dredge gunner 1 tap headshot unchanged BepE
Makes it more constant smooth to play
Gotta get that battle pass
Darktide battle pass challenges would probably be goofy
“Kill a crusher from 50m away using a las pistol”
New ways to earn up to 20 aquillas per season
"Don't revive 4 psykers"
"Banish a daemonhost without a single operator dying" 
"Kill enemies with perils of the warp"
Kill a monstrocity while blowing yourself up with a plasmagun
"Never be at 0% plasma heat for more than 2 seconds"

hey guys what should i change on this?
"Don't run survivalist"
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imo, take Brutal momentum and find a rashad

The silent bombers really do be hittin
i dont run survivalist most of my games because i duo with a psyker who is usually not gunking it up
It looks fine besides t2 headtaker
dunno why its such a alien concept to some people here
Would save it while finding a rashad
Survivalist is QOL, really. Feels great not to worry about ammo.
Then again, the alternative is just a 5% increase in damage
feels even more great when its hound pack condition 
unless you want to shoot your gun almost the entie match survivalist is not nessesary at all
I like shooting me gun
Can someone please tell me what BP stands for?
Certified 2 second VOC cooldown moment
Breakpoint
So I tried the xiv revolver, and it blows
how u using it
It's... a flavor
Inaccurate as fuck
well duh its the wild west pattern
agri revolver? its fine
needs pen thats all
will probably get buffed next big patch
I have the BP to one shot gunners ke 80% of the time. Good enuff.
Making a acro for "damage" feels really weird.
This is one reason I stopped using the boltgun as much. The sway on it, I've straddled both sides of a target head on some occasions and it drove me nuts.
regardless of what it is "meant" to be, the inaccuracy just plain sucks
Let dedicate my ranged weapon slot to a weapon that sucks just to kill bosses, which can be done without doing that
the inaccuracy is out of your control
its not as inaccurate as you think
i would prefer if it had higher recoil and was more accurate
I used it for a game, it's as inaccurate as I think
the only time it will actually be inaccurate is if you are shooting snipers across the map


