veteran-class

[crisp oak]

Btw is hellbore blessing still best to run onslaught, surgical?

[umbral scaffold]

Thankfully the bar for auric is not super high as long as your team is competent
And minor build jank cna be compensated with being better at the game

[lofty lintel]

yea

[umbral scaffold]

Although some aurics are incredibly evil

[lofty lintel]

on mk2 people like onslaught no respite

[umbral scaffold]

And then some aurics are chill af

[serene sage]

no respite helps with bayo meme

if you are into that

[crisp oak]

Ill be running mk1 for easier one tap (want to keep voc)

[tiny summit]

I use surgical and falter on mk2

[lofty lintel]

mk1 is onslaught surgical

[elder dawn]

i think i hate devils claw

[tiny summit]

but I also dont have a lot of mk2

its funny stunlocking maulers at range

[crisp oak]

Ill be purposelly aquiring a ton of mk1s

[tiny summit]

80 dmg, ~70is stopping power minimum if you want the pain like me

[crisp oak]

Will have to do some breakpoint maffs

[agile forge]

Remember when plasma sucked and bolter was Emperor

[lofty lintel]

remember when the emprah

[wary galleon]

when you only play damnation, and go back to malice for a change

[agile forge]

I miss my bolters

The level of violence they had was just Emperor's kiss

[serene sage]

rude

[tiny summit]

you need a something of or either elite, unarmored, longshot, or MF stacks for a gray mk1 below 80 dmg/70ish stopping power to 1 tap a dreg gunner from the center of the meat grinder

[wary galleon]

i think i made the zealot leave because i was just making the match into a walking simulator lmao

[umbral scaffold]

Bot looks Iike it did just as well as your teammates lol

[light brook]

Grob-Grob is a good ogryn name

[wary galleon]

well zealot left mid match.
ngl i havent seen a zealot be this bad before

must have destroyed his confidence

[inland orchid]

“The slab is stealing the kills destined for the emperor, I must go seek more harder, worthy dubs”

Dies to a singular crusher

[wary galleon]

A MILLION MOAR AND IT MOIGHT MEEN SOMFINK

[serene sage]

if im smurfing in lower diffs I try not to kill everything tbh

[wary galleon]

big mood

[serene sage]

let people play

[umbral scaffold]

Poor guy

You made him turn to chaos

😔

[wary galleon]

im doing penance run with no downed, and i just want it over, since ive been doing the same mission like 14 times in a row now

[umbral scaffold]

Have fun

Just 14 more grindy missions

Watch the last one be the absolute worst team you can find

And one of them launches you off a bridge with a barrel

[serene sage]

ah yes, penances, the "actively grief yourself and teammates to be rewarded" achievements

[wary galleon]

i dread it so bad ;C

[serene sage]

seriously, who designed that crap

[crude ermine]

Finally done this shitty paperwork

For the next 5 minutes I can dark my tide with a revolver

[light brook]

I'm just here to make chain weapons go brr
and plasma go fwap
and previously bolter go blam but haven't found anything that feels quite right this patch

[crude ermine]

Before doing more again

[serene sage]

who are you

[umbral scaffold]

I remember one guy on release was like

[serene sage]

what happened to the old pfp

[umbral scaffold]

Guys pls help me get penance

[crude ermine]

Change

[umbral scaffold]

I need to solo the Beast of Nurgle with brainburst

[crude ermine]

Mandragora time

[umbral scaffold]

We helped him
But man that was
So boring

[serene sage]

that's so fucking funny because I immediately know what you are about to say

[umbral scaffold]

Just waited for like 3 minutes afking

[serene sage]

but yeah

them was the time

[umbral scaffold]

Right haha

The Speedrun zealot one was also great

Made for a funny damnation game since that was pre shotgunner nerf

"do you think we can speedrun this"

[serene sage]

I honestly don't remember shotgunner being OP period

[umbral scaffold]

every other corner was a shotty squad

[wary galleon]

i never ask for help for that

[serene sage]

but I heard they were

[wary galleon]

screw dat

[umbral scaffold]

Ye they were obnoxious

[crude ermine]

Just steal the kill smh

[umbral scaffold]

You could be meleeing them and they'd still shoot you

So they were super toxic for a small time

But then there was always something bad with release darktide

180 degree turning mutants
Dogs that couldn't be pushed properly
Bursters that resisted shoves mid jump

[light brook]

Voice of Command should've been a zealot ability. Ogryn even calls them Shouty.

[crisp oak]

I mean zealot has an upgraded voc

The holy crack rock

[serene sage]

but he doesn't shout with it

[umbral scaffold]

Chorus should've been Saltspyre's voice actor shouting at people for 20 seconds

[crisp oak]

He does

[serene sage]

does he?

[crisp oak]

Yup

"Repent ye heretics"

Is my favorite

[serene sage]

well they need to crank up the volume then

[umbral scaffold]

Some of them do I think

Some of them are like
Ehh

"be judged"

[serene sage]

Zealot showed them American medical bills

[crisp oak]

The issue is fanatic yells all the time so you dont notice it

[umbral scaffold]

Oh okay

[serene sage]

and they all recoiled in fear

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah

[crude ermine]

Reminds me of a zel in my run named saltzpyre that of all people instantly talked shit about the aeldari

Not even VC or chat no the character himself

[serene sage]

based?

[crisp oak]

Im still annoyed I couldnt make my zealet schizocrackhead

[serene sage]

jk i love knife ears

that would be better as loner psyker imo

[umbral scaffold]

Based

[crisp oak]

Fanatic male veteran is addicted to drink

[quasi jetty]

Wait, Harlequin Solitaires are still Aeldari, right?

[crisp oak]

Hes a veteran because hes cadian

[crisp oak]

Also to be lore accurate I take all of the stimms my team pretends dont exist

[crude ermine]

The ogryn says something too about them but I don't tolerate abhumans so I cut him off in the vid

[crisp oak]

To get the true drug addict experience

[serene sage]

if I was in charge of balancing, the first thing I would do, the thing that FS never had the gumption to do, is to delete the entire ogryn class

[crude ermine]

Many ogryns could be homeless

[serene sage]

good

[inland orchid]

“Doesn’t tolerate abhumans” has one as a pfp

[serene sage]

imagine if Ogryns were released today as a new class

[umbral scaffold]

I'd make Space Marines a class

[serene sage]

people would consider them really OP and annoying

[crisp oak]

No

[crude ermine]

Everybody would want to play that

[umbral scaffold]

Exactly

It would be funny

[crude ermine]

Barely anyone would touch the other classes lemao

[umbral scaffold]

3 space marines
And then a random crackhead

[crisp oak]

Space marines would either be really really nerfed or broken to all hell

[serene sage]

maybe a failed space marine aspirant?

[crude ermine]

Has to be a fanatic zel

Big white beard

[serene sage]

who can't shut up about being a space marine aspirant?

[crude ermine]

Smells horrible

[umbral scaffold]

Realistically
A scout marine can work actually

[serene sage]

lorewise scout marines need to be with their chapters though

[umbral scaffold]

Or a lone space marine with an extremely limited arsenal requisitioned

[crude ermine]

Probably has 12 kinds of disease on his toes

Each

[umbral scaffold]

But yeh it's iffy

[crisp oak]

Lol was about to smack you on the mouth

[umbral scaffold]

I'm more expecting Sororitas or Mechanicum

[crisp oak]

Mechanicum would be better

[umbral scaffold]

I've seen some people say Stormtroopers

[crisp oak]

An enginseer

[umbral scaffold]

But honestly that just seems like a vet skin

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah

Especially since they experimented with Sienna necromancer

[crisp oak]

Or novice techpriest

[umbral scaffold]

They can play around with an Enginseer summoning funny skitarii

[crisp oak]

When I learned the weakness of my flesh

I was disgusted

Even better, a magos biologis

Muscle priest

[serene sage]

he's just a dude
his entire tree is involved around buttering up Hadron for better gears/blessings

that's it

you are a walking simulator but your crafting isn't shit

[crisp oak]

Hadron lets you make gear

Completely customizable at level 30 techpriest

(Levelled by making stuff with aquilas)

[serene sage]

we did it, we fixed the crafting system

[crisp oak]

Class has no weapons but speeds up the drill/servitor auto scans area

[midnight totem]

I have an idea for an actual tech adept clasd

It'd kinda be a bit like Gaige from Borderlands

[visual remnant]

[shut flax]

A class that lays traps might be cool. Kinda like setting down mines with their ability.

[wary galleon]

ah yes

[crude ermine]

Dorothy

[wary galleon]

another carry xd

[wooden lotus]

what mission

[crude ermine]

Simply too powerful

[wary galleon]

the library one

[crude ermine]

Archivum sorethroat

[wooden lotus]

how do people literally do 80k on damnation

[fiery plinth]

Well, I got lvl 4 hand cannon for my fanning revolver

[crude ermine]

Whatever the thing is called

[wary galleon]

something someting latin i dont care to remember

[wary galleon]

80k what?

[wooden lotus]

damage

[wary galleon]

which kind?

boss?

[wooden lotus]

actual

[wary galleon]

ah

80k is nothing

[wooden lotus]

yes

that is what i am trying to say

[fiery plinth]

Might I ask what rending is?

[crude ermine]

Ig they just

Uh

[wooden lotus]

how do you do that little without being dead weight

[crude ermine]

Did they join late?

[wary galleon]

well just insane hordes that never ends

and good builds

[wooden lotus]

damnation, right?

[wary galleon]

meta builds matter much more at this difficulty

[wooden lotus]

armor piercing

[crude ermine]

Ignores a percentage of armour

[wary galleon]

ye damn, or maelstrom

[crude ermine]

Brittleness is that but onna teamscale

[wary galleon]

almost get 4k kills every match

and they take like 30mins always

[wooden lotus]

for example, some guns don't do anything to armor because they have like a 0.1% multiplier against armor hypothetically

[fiery plinth]

And this is only works for flak n carapace right?

[wary galleon]

like recon las

[wooden lotus]

10% rending turns that into 10.1%

[wary galleon]

ye

[wooden lotus]

correct

[crude ermine]

Yes

[fiery plinth]

And triggers on critical hits

[wooden lotus]

though flak's everywhere and everyone likes to have a way to kill crushers

[fiery plinth]

cue seer laugh. I’m gonna enjoy this…

[wooden lotus]

rending mostly matters for maulers and crushers

[wary galleon]

thats why i main braced autogunn

just shoot everything

dont matter you got the ammo capacity of a small nation anyway

[wooden lotus]

just note that rending by itself doesn't do a lot unless it's a decent amount and the weapon benefits from it

ie Onslaught on a Columnus

[wary galleon]

just look at that ammo capacity 😍

[wooden lotus]

but 10% rending is going to be barely an increase for something like a plasma gun

[fiery plinth]

how's this jessie?

[wooden lotus]

hot roll

nice

personally

[wary galleon]

very nice

[wooden lotus]

crucian on the quickdraw is better imo

[wary galleon]

now lets see paul allens revolver

[wooden lotus]

if it was zarona then this would be a near perfect roll

[crude ermine]

If it were zarona it'd be 4/5

[fiery plinth]

Well, gonna test it out on the field

Wish me luck

[crude ermine]

But 3/5 with two IV blessings are nice

[shut flax]

Yeahhh I think crucian would be a tad more efficient on the hipfire revolver

[strange sparrow]

You dont really need rending once you have Onslaught

[fiery plinth]

Pray tell what are those terms you’re referring to?

[strange sparrow]

It provide more value overall

But if it's convenient, Rending is ok

[shut flax]

If you're running Columnus, that 10% rending makes a pretty sizable difference

[fiery plinth]

Zarona, crucian

[strange sparrow]

I do, it's not that much

[fiery plinth]

Are these the weapon names?

[static timber]

damn we need mod suport on xbox these weapon mods look sick

[shut flax]

I also do lol. I'll check numbers later to make sure.

I hope it doesn't do as much as I think it does. That extra point can go to better places.

[ivory rock]

What's the move here boys

[strange sparrow]

on wait wrong clip

@shut flax

Onslaught is enough overall

[wary galleon]

i love fiddleing around with the parts, you can make some uber cool looking weapons that dont even look anymore like the vanilla model.
heres my bolter

[strange sparrow]

Both case scenario assume you took Onslaught

[static timber]

this ould breathe so much more life into the game, jfc

[strange sparrow]

The only differences is Rending

[static timber]

I can only imagine the plasma gun variants I could mak

that and the scoreboard would be nice, and the guns on backs I keep seeing

[shut flax]

So what I'm hearing is that rending offers a breakpoint against crushers

Yeah I'm keeping it.

[strange sparrow]

If you crit yes

if you dont, it doesnt matter

[shut flax]

Certified deadshot moment

[wary galleon]

double barrel plasma 😏

[shut flax]

What mod is that?

[wary galleon]

weapon costomization

[static timber]

MORE, I NEED MORE

[wary galleon]

oh lemme show you the zealot weapons they are dope

[strange sparrow]

I give up Rending to take +20% more damage to Ogyrn and Monstrosity

Which is significantly better except you're shooting from a very very long range

[shut flax]

Without rending, how many rounds does it take to kill a mauler?

[wary galleon]

the bik bonk

[strange sparrow]

With Onslaught or without?

[shut flax]

With

[static timber]

loooool

[strange sparrow]

Insignificant to TTK from my testing

Especially if you hit them in the chest

[crude ermine]

That's an umbrella

Folder umbrella

Folderef

[wary galleon]

or change the head on the thunderhammer so it becomes a halberd, pretty fun

[static timber]

got anymore plasma variants? I yearn for drip

[crude ermine]

Forldered

[strange sparrow]

Because mauler (Head is Cara, while chest is Flak)

[static timber]

mmmm thunder halberd

[fiery plinth]

These are moods right?

[strange sparrow]

and Flak don't need high Rending/Brittleness

[wary galleon]

yes

[crude ermine]

Yes

[fiery plinth]

Mods*

[shut flax]

Ah gotcha.

[wary galleon]

client sided, so only you will be able to see it

not even ones with the mod

[strange sparrow]

The only reason to take 10% Rending is to deal with long range bullet dropoff

[wary galleon]

otherwise it would fuck with FS cosmetic and store

[strange sparrow]

which is more useful for las-type of gun which have inverse range dropoff

[shut flax]

Considering some of these engagement ranges with randos, I might keep it specifically for that reason

[crude ermine]

That and any non client will result in a ban

Probably

Like you can't mod trappers out of existence

Tho it would be funny

[wary galleon]

example

scope works too lol

super unpractical

[crude ermine]

Omar you are not han Solo

[wary galleon]

hahahah

[gaunt hinge]

insane how 3 blueberries cant even stop a poxburster from hitting me while i hold the other side in ascension riser

[wary galleon]

i made my bull cleaver into a harry potter wand

[static timber]

looooooooooool

[stuck gorge]

How do you even do that lol

[wary galleon]

mod

[stuck gorge]

Silly

[wary galleon]

it does fuck up the functionality, visual-wise if you mess around too much

autopistol

terminator style

[crude ermine]

Is your vet a failed space marine how the fuck is he holding it like that

Like he's about to take a piss

[wary galleon]

hes always pissing

on the moon

[light brook]

it's a styrofoam bodykit

[wary galleon]

what i like the MOST about the mod is im able to put a scope no the absolutely HORRIBLE iron sights on hellbore

[shut flax]

I might get the mod just to play around with sights

[gusty bison]

God that scope is horrible

Just why

[manic moon]

crosshair mod

[wary galleon]

got normal if thats better

[manic moon]

or u can put the laser on every weapon

[gusty bison]

Its... still kinda bad ngl

I wish there was a red dot

[wary galleon]

yea but it can fuck the special function for certain weapons, like the shotgun it would remove the special function and override it

[wary galleon]

it is a red dot?? just yellow

[gusty bison]

With a giant yellow circle around it

Visually noisy

Its probably not as bad as on the helbore as the MG12 cos helbore is more stable

But ngl i wish i could rip the holosight off the MG12

[wary galleon]

hell bore vanilla

[gusty bison]

Darn thing is painful to use on a gun that for some reason is one of the least stable jn the game

[wary galleon]

cant see shit on this xD

[shut flax]

and all these mods are on the nexus?

[wary galleon]

no, need togo on the discord

[crude ermine]

The only way I got used to it is by spotting so I can see the head

[gusty bison]

Ngl im used to this

[crude ermine]

And just have gotten used to it

[gusty bison]

Way easier to aim for me than MG12 sights

[shut flax]

Ah, gotcha. Which discord?

[crude ermine]

Still annoying tho

[wary galleon]

cant aimt for shit with it.
im having so much better overlook with a scope

[gusty bison]

Mg12 is just too visually noisy for me

Plus the center dot likes to wander

So u cant even aim with the ring

[wary galleon]

Darktide modders :)

[gusty bison]

I will say helbore irons are among the worse of the irons

[wary galleon]

yep

[gusty bison]

But the holos in this game are ass

Excepr laspistol

Laspistol is fine

[golden nacelle]

thoughts?

groan/pox to flak probably

[light brook]

rip and tear

[golden nacelle]

then just upgrade savage sweep?

[wary galleon]

i like the look on my kantreal

[gusty bison]

Oh god that scope on a Kanny

[light brook]

is there a tangible difference between III and IV savage sweep? it's a lotta cleave

[gusty bison]

How do u deal with the dodge sway?

[strange sparrow]

Yes and No

More Cleave is nice but I feel like Cleave is a diminishing return

[wary galleon]

its same as if it was just the original scope

stability on your perk helps

[crude ermine]

I feel like the sides are too...idk how to word it but it feels too smushed

[gusty bison]

Yea and its horrific on the original scope

[crude ermine]

Other than that it's nice

[gusty bison]

Except the OG scope at least isnt as noisy

[golden nacelle]

I prefer the og scope to the zoomed in ones

[wary galleon]

LONG LAS

[gusty bison]

Like on the OG scope u dodge and ur aim goes 30 degrees ro the left

[golden nacelle]

soom is nice, but I find that its rare to be able to engage at that long of a distance

zoom*

[wary galleon]

tru

its not practical at all lol

[gusty bison]

Ye zoom is useless in DT xD

[golden nacelle]

most of the time enemies get thrown in your face

it is fun tho

[wary galleon]

but being able to is very nice

and i like having a close-mid scope

[gusty bison]

Sights kinda need to be open and clean I feel

Esp on high sway guns

[wary galleon]

why i use this one its open enough that im not cramped up too much

[gusty bison]

Isnt that a Kantrael?

[wary galleon]

yep

[gusty bison]

The scope swings 20 deg when you dosge

[wary galleon]

well dodging and shooting never goes hand in hand, scope or not xd

[golden nacelle]

hard disagree

dodging and shooting is life

[gusty bison]

Dodge + shoot is the standard way thou

Its why the Kanny MG12 is underperforming tbf

Its horrible at it

Esp with how bouncy the scope is

[wary galleon]

i like to headshot so i dont really shoot and dodge at the same time.

never had a problem with that

[gusty bison]

U can headshot while dodge shooting

[wary galleon]

yes but i dont do that i like to have clean shots

[gusty bison]

In fact helbore can do it mid dodge

[wary galleon]

im not disproving that

[gusty bison]

Ye. Its just the case that it takes longer for the kanny sight to get a clean shot over most irons atm after a dodge

Cos of how bouncy the sight is

[wary galleon]

idk i think thats kinda subjective

[gusty bison]

Its probably better on a helbore tbf

[gusty bison]

The issue with it is the center dot travels indepedently of the circle

[wary galleon]

maybe, but hellbore does have a long wield time

[gusty bison]

So the ring is useless for aiming

[gusty bison]

Eh

Ya never swap off it thou

So wield time is kinda irrelevant

[wary galleon]

if you never switch sure

i like my shovel though :p

[abstract jewel]

whats in store rn

[gusty bison]

It has an S+ tier melee attached to its tip

[wary galleon]

if its hellbore mk1 or 2 yea

[gusty bison]

Mhm

[wary galleon]

3 is really bad imo

[gusty bison]

Mk 3 is a solid gun

Its just not also a S tier melee

[wary galleon]

tru

mk1-2 got some great stagger

[gusty bison]

Helbores are criminally underrated now

Mostly cos they have a learning curve

As oposed to being braindead ez

[wary galleon]

scope on a bolter is actually really usefull ive realized

[gusty bison]

Bolter?

[wary galleon]

the iron sight sucks ass

ye

[gusty bison]

Ngl with bolter i just aim with gut and it works

Bolter requires barely any aim

Since its a bodyshot gun

[wary galleon]

headshots aint hurting the performance though :p

and you save more ammo in the long run

[gusty bison]

Nah u dont

Its 1 shot either way

[wary galleon]

for what? stalkers and poxwalkers? sure

[gusty bison]

Everything up to flamers

Including flamers

[umbral scaffold]

I need to install that mod one of these days

the sights look sweet

[gusty bison]

Bolter is a crit based surgical gun

[wary galleon]

sure, assuming the roll are good enough.
but aiming never hurt the performance either way if you wanna snipe something far off. helps ammo efficiency too so you dont waste too much ammo. one magasine is still 14%

[gusty bison]

I mean... its still 1 shot

No matter how far they are

[wary galleon]

yea ive spent way too long in the psycanium just messing around with the looks :P super fun

[gusty bison]

Irons are good till 50m anyway for a bodyshot

[wary galleon]

you need to hit it first

[gusty bison]

I mean

Its a bodyshot

[wary galleon]

wtf is your point

[gusty bison]

Its easy as pie

[wary galleon]

that hitting heads is the same as a torso????

[gusty bison]

Om the bolter? Yes

[wary galleon]

bruh

[midnight totem]

... I mean this looks awesome

[gusty bison]

Bolter's niche atm is its the lazy man's bodyshot gun

[golden nacelle]

between these two, what yall think?

[gusty bison]

Cos headshots dont have superior bps except vs ragers

[wary galleon]

you can make stuff look like a lmg :p

[shut flax]

How does the reload work?

Or rather, how does it look?

[wary galleon]

same animation

box magasine makes it look a lil funky but same over all

since the model is not in his hands

or it might be but clipping

only thing it changes is the visual parts

[gusty bison]

Left if crit build

[shut flax]

Ahh gotcha

[gusty bison]

Right if not

[umbral scaffold]

oh for sure
I just hate how ugly some of the irons are

[gusty bison]

Fair. The holos are kinda ass tbh

Except las pistol

[wary galleon]

this is not even 50m

and thats an ogryn

[limber egret]

the trick to using boltgun is to just use boltgun

and if that dont work

[umbral scaffold]

yeah

[limber egret]

use more boltgun

[gusty bison]

Yes thats an easy target

Bolter ads has zoom

Like if u can hit heads with a MG12 at 20m

U can hit bodyshots with a bolter at 80

Heads are way tinier of a target

And the MG12 is way less stable than a bolter

[wary galleon]

you saying, iron is better then scope?

[gusty bison]

Yes

[wary galleon]

ok sly marbo

lol

[zealous wyvern]

yes

[stuck gorge]

Damn that zoom

[zealous wyvern]

i love iron

[wary galleon]

good for you

[stone adder]

That scope looks weird

[gusty bison]

Cos i can see more around me.

[wary galleon]

thats not the point

[gusty bison]

Thats an easy bodyshot either way

So higher FoV is better

[wary galleon]

i dont care if you can hit the particle off a chaos spawns ass

scopes makes long distance easier

never said it makes close distance easier

[gusty bison]

In practice situational awareness > zoom

[wary galleon]

sure

but thats NOT

the

point

[gusty bison]

Cos in 95% of situations something is in your face

Even while ur trying to shoot a target far away

[wary galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-23548728

[shut flax]

Certified simo hayha moment

[crude ermine]

Yeah this once ima have to agree with Omar on that

Mainly because my vision is fucking shite so it would help

[wary galleon]

if you like it, sure go for it!

[shut flax]

How does it look when shooting?

[inland orchid]

Just don’t use any sight, hip fire all the way

[shut flax]

Does it bounce ad nauseum or does it recenter fairly quickly?

[gusty bison]

Bolter doesnt bounce much thankfully

If ur using deadshot

[wary galleon]

around the same as like a kantrael. hard to take a photo but im also only able todo 1 shots when sighting

[shut flax]

True, though through a scope any bounce is more noticable than no bounce.

[gusty bison]

Ye. But sincr ur going for bodyshots u can kinda just gut feel it and aim with the center of the screen

[wary galleon]

plenty of other scopes to choose, varying degree of zoom

[gusty bison]

Bolter also has WAY less dodge sway for some reason

[shut flax]

Idk. Scope usability is much more important to me than scope utility. If it feels like ass to use, I'll pass.

[wary galleon]

its subjective

and dont let anyone say you cant use it because they themself are like some snipe god with 5k hours in call of duty

its your fun

use or dont

[shut flax]

It, however, isn't necessary still lol

[gusty bison]

Id say scopes promote bad habits

It doesnt necessarily lead to bad habits, but its like MG12

U end up dodging less

[inland orchid]

Dodge while shooting, problem solved

[wary galleon]

skill issue

[gusty bison]

Ye. Its just more disorienting with zoom

[inland orchid]

You’ll get it down in time I believe in u

[gusty bison]

I use irons for a reason xD

[inland orchid]

Iron is still a sight

[wary galleon]

thats your opinion.

how you even tried the mod?

[gusty bison]

Yep

Tried it

[wary galleon]

ok

[gusty bison]

Then uninstalled it

[shut flax]

I'd leave it up to the player at that point. It's like putting a scope on a shotgun. You can certainly do it, and some people do, however the alternative is also viable.

[tiny summit]

Helbore irons good

[wary galleon]

because of scopes?

[gusty bison]

Stability and it was pointless for me

[shut flax]

You're really trying to sell scopes here.

[wary galleon]

im just tryna understand why hes so butthurt over scopes xD

[gusty bison]

A patch hit and it kinda had stability issues

So i uninstalled it and never looked back

[wary galleon]

havent had a problem with it so far

[gusty bison]

Its the same issue I have with the Kantrael tbh

It promotes bad habits

Although the MG12 needs a buff tbf

[shut flax]

Honestly, you could say the same about changing FOVs.

[gusty bison]

Thats fair.

[wary galleon]

thats a fair point

[gusty bison]

Many vets who got used to the MG12 back during its heyday kinda just... never learnt to dodge when shooting

So they had serious problems in melee

Which was compounded by the fact they never learnt to melee

Cos prenerf psword

[serene sage]

how did we even kill carapace and bulwarks back in the days lol

[gusty bison]

Psword

[near shore]

What would y'all think about this
New ability: throws out grenades (based on what grenade you have)
If shredder: toss 8 in 60° cone( doesn't consume your frags)
If krak: toss 4 in 45° ( doesn't consume frags )
If smoke: toss 6 in 145° ( doesn't consume grenades)

Basically a 1 off,oh shit ability. Something a little different

[inland orchid]

Armor piercing stuff

[wary galleon]

plasma/bolter and alot of determination xd

[quick steeple]

Many ~~vets ~~ players ~~who got used to the MG12 back during its heyday kinda ~~just... never learnt to dodge when shooting at all
ftfy

[gusty bison]

LEL

[gaunt hinge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1048820220409696416/2022-12-04_15-33-49-1.mp4?ex=65a364f2&is=6590eff2&hm=f3e43cdd052bf8839919c0b90c22b480bada0285773a63897cfa4edc6d7ac5d0&

[serene sage]

8 shredders is hilariously broken

[near shore]

Definitely, but I'm just throwing out a concept

[wary galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-punch-minecraft-tree-gif-13815089

[serene sage]

that's like 4 ogryn nukes

[near shore]

Ya,it's just to show the concept

[stuck gorge]

Counter point,
Look straight down and you throw 8 shredders directly at your feet

[shut flax]

And we're discussing feedback regarding this concept.

[near shore]

Ye

[shut flax]

It's unfortunate, but it's how ideas grow.

[near shore]

I think I'd be neat

[shut flax]

Though consider that kraks already oneshot, and 2 shredders already kill a large portion of a horde

[near shore]

It's fun to be a grenade goblin sometimes, and this would make it come true

[serene sage]

I think it would be kinda fun, but I only see it as free grenades and nothing more

like it's an active that gives you grenade

[near shore]

Well 8 shredder would fuck up anything

[shut flax]

You could have a % chance to drop a grenade at your feet with every reload.

Would encourage a certain playstyle, like Deadshot.

[gaunt hinge]

just make the slot machine grenade perk useful

[north raptor]

is there a guide or doc about recommended blessings and things on veteran melee weapons?

[serene sage]

I mean we can adjust the numbers if we want to take this seriously

[gusty bison]

EVEN. MORE. NADES

[serene sage]

but to me it's just nades

[wary galleon]

ooh grenade launcher for vet. havent thought about that

[shut flax]

Could be a keystone that increases nade AOE and bleed effect

so one nade can kill poxwalkers

[near shore]

It could have a perk as well "no longer drop all frags at once,gives 5 sec unlimited grenades"

[shut flax]

Leans into the current nade goblin style

[near shore]

I'd love a grenade keystone

[serene sage]

I think you underestimate how much we can already do with our current grenades

[near shore]

Just a solid 5 seconds of unlimited frags,or a bunch at once

[wary galleon]

sniper thinking hes sly:
me:

[shut flax]

Or, a node that increases grenade arming speed

[serene sage]

like frag nade is probably the most powerful blizt in the game right now

[near shore]

Oh,no I know what you can do

[serene sage]

and we are getting unlimited number of them on a cooldown

[shut flax]

I'd love a node that allows a quick drop of nades.

Probably make it expensive like Onslaught

[stuck gorge]

Turn a grenade into a cluster grenade would be silly (or just multiple explosions in case of krak)

[near shore]

I just NEED to be able to toss like 6 back to back very quickly, because boom make me happy

[serene sage]

so like frag bomb?

[shut flax]

What about an ability that places a mine?

[inland orchid]

So just box of grenades but on vet

[shut flax]

Covers the flank, and spreads fire to the area

[gaunt hinge]

what about a keystone that turns on friendly fire

[near shore]

Could be a giant stahel bomb

[umbral scaffold]

Yo

[stuck gorge]

No silly box damage though ):

[inland orchid]

Oh there’s still damage, is just tinier

[shut flax]

Give vets rocks

[inland orchid]

Lil bit of impact

[cloud lava]

whats best modification to refine onto a mk 6 power sword

[near shore]

I mean just imagine this
Uses ability "got a karking surprise for you" tosses 8 grenades,then tosses 4 more form inventory

[umbral scaffold]

What am I? I am a warrior!

[shut flax]

I still think a mine might be more balanced in this case.

[near shore]

Well of course I'd need to be balanced

[serene sage]

I can imagine how boring it would be for the other players

[shut flax]

While that would be fun, even a pergatus psyker has less wave clear.

[near shore]

What if the ability is unique frag, modified by your grenade choice?

[stuck gorge]

A landmine that you can pick up if it doesn’t explode would be cool to see ngl

[gaunt hinge]

melta bomb

[serene sage]

we need a crossbow weapon that you can pick up ammo after shooting

[shut flax]

Place 3 or so on the flank to prevent dogs or something. Would be interesting with modifiers.

[stuck gorge]

Imagine if you choose smoke grenade it turns the ability into like a neurotoxin grenade

[cloud lava]

whats best modification to refine onto a mk 6 power sword

[shut flax]

Smoke grenade activates pox asthma

[near shore]

That would actually be cool

[serene sage]

actually, wouldn't that make smoke worse?

because you really can't see anything

[shut flax]

A damage AOE would be interesting for revives. Though, they would have to be on par with shredders and kraken grenades

If you run ES, smokes CAN be useful

But that requires two things that people generally don't run

[stuck gorge]

Kraken grenades??? Are we summoning a dragon next?

[near shore]

Shredder: increase aoe and adds bleed ( toss 4)
Krak: increase dmg and armor piercing (toss 3)
Smoke: causes medium tick dmg ( toss 6)

Ontop of its normal form, perhaps like,a flash grenade?

[serene sage]

kraken rounds are a thing in 40k i think

at least I know they exist for Space Marine bolters

[shut flax]

I think Krak's should just have an increased AOE. They already oneshot.

[stuck gorge]

I just thought of the giant squid monster when they said kraken didn’t know there’s an actual ammo type for it lol

[near shore]

No no,it modified the abilities grenade based on your grenade choice

[stuck gorge]

Krak dealing literally 10 dmg to a enemy more than 2m away from the nade

[near shore]

So it's base would be a moderate damage flash grenade, modified by your grenade of choice to add additional effect

[shut flax]

This is in regard to a modifier for grenades based on Cotton's idea

[serene sage]

I just think it would be too OP

[near shore]

Long cool down perhaps?

2 minutes?

[shut flax]

It would absolutely be. Though, how could nades be modified in the current setting?

[stuck gorge]

I mean it IS just free grenades so yea

[near shore]

Just a stupid long cool down for nutty dmg and crowd control

[shut flax]

2 minutes is still really good. If you're using it as an "oh shit" button, you'll likely have it off CD by the time the next one happens.

[stuck gorge]

There could be a option to convert overflow grenade pickups into cooldown reduction (if you had max nades you could reduce cd by 30% or so by picking grenade boxes up)

[near shore]

Then what would you suggest for a grenade ability?

[shut flax]

Increased AOE and throw speed.

[serene sage]

im honestly kinda happy with the current nades

[strange sparrow]

Krak deal damage in 1m radius so only stack enemy work

[serene sage]

except for smoke

[strange sparrow]

Especially overhead Crusher

because somehow some reason Crusher overhead can stack inside enemy

ignoring collision

[shut flax]

Oh, ability.

[strange sparrow]

it drop to almost 0 damage on 2m

[shut flax]

Hm. Setting down all the grenades you have into a tripwire.

[near shore]

Alrighty how about this
Increase AOE,throw speed.
Active for 10 seconds
Kills by frags on special while active immediately gives a grenade back

[gaunt hinge]

tripwire gets set off by 1 poxwalker

amazing

[serene sage]

any RoR2 players here?

[shut flax]

You can VOC 1 poxwalker as well tbh

Just depends on the player

[serene sage]

it would be funny if we get the captain's ability diablo strike or something

[gaunt hinge]

you can control when you want to shout

[serene sage]

like 30s delay for a massive sky drop f you

[shut flax]

You can also control when you want to set up a tripwire.

I fail to see your point.

[gaunt hinge]

trips are set and forget

[manic moon]

which weps for melee veteran

[shut flax]

Incorrect. They deter and punish aggressive flank tactics.

[serene sage]

tbf, video logic rarely makes mines a set and forget thing

if you're using a mine you want to see it go off

so it's just a very delay nade

[shut flax]

They're a "I specifically want this grenade to go off when someone sets foot right here" thing.

[gaunt hinge]

poxers and bruisers are everywhere

[shut flax]

So are dogs and maulers. Really don't want a flamer flanking you? Set up a tripwire. If it gets set off by a poxwalker, then dang.

[strange sparrow]

Tripwire if it burn sure

[serene sage]

it depends on how much plasteel you have and your playstyle

[strange sparrow]

But if it's explosion

probably suck

[shut flax]

A flame nade would be interesting

[serene sage]

meta choices are powersword and rashad axe but they are expensive

[serene sage]

imagine if we have zealot flame nades

unlimited fire would be quite something

[shut flax]

If the smoke grenade was replaced with a flame grenade, I'm sure the current veteran sandbox would be a bit different.

You can't fit unlimited crits, brittleness, spotting, and VOC in the same build as flame nades.

[wooden lotus]

shredder nades will still be popular over flame just because of survivalist being a node at all

[serene sage]

okay hear me out, what if we trade survivalist + smoke for zealot's TDR and fire nade

[near shore]

Ability: grenade hell
Effects: 10 seconds active, increases frags AOE and throw speed. Kills during the ability,by frags,on specials, give a grenade back.

Modification tree perks
Small ammo boxes give 1 grenade
Large ammo bags give 3 grenade's

Modification:
Increase your teams grenades AOE
Shredder grenades deal more DMG to armor
Krak have better AOE
Smokes deal stacking tick dmg

Modification
Throw out all grenades in your inventory x2 ( if you have 3, you'll toss 6) it consumes your grenades and can return a max of 2 frags

You're locked to one of these additions ( aka can't take all 3)

[shut flax]

Survivalist for that? Dang.

I'd rather trade fire team

[inland orchid]

Do not doubt how lost some vets are skill tree wise, people be wandering more than zoro

More power to em tho experimenting is one of the many fun parts of these games

[shut flax]

I kinda miss launch psyker experimentation. Vets almost have it, but plasma and revolvers exist.

[serene sage]

the two guns should be nerfed

but people are so used to their power level

they will cry if their fav toy is slightly more balanced

[fast cargo]

Anyone willing to give me some feedback on my marksman setup?

[shut flax]

And around that same time, Kantrael XIII and bolters existed.

[near shore]

I can

[shut flax]

Even those got shafted and replaced

[stuck gorge]

I’ve never used plasma is it that good?

[near shore]

I dislike plasma

[shut flax]

Plasma is beyond broken atm

[fast cargo]

Secondarily, am I good to direct post the images or is there something like Pastebin that I should use?

[serene sage]

it's the strongest gun in the game rn, among revolver and columnus mk5

[pseudo pulsar]

Can confirm, I'm running with a shitty bolter build that somehow gets me through damnation.

[near shore]

Nah,go ahead and post

[stuck gorge]

Damn

[serene sage]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

use this website and screenshot

[fast cargo]

No keystones because Focus just doesn't feel worth it and Mark is too far away

[serene sage]

what gun are you using?

[fast cargo]

Hellbore/Kantrel/Plas, depending on mission

[near shore]

So,on krak you don't need dmg increase,the perk for covering team is....idk. the suppression perk is also not needed

[fast cargo]

if it's Plas I'm usually in my shouty build tho

[gusty bison]

Plasma just needs a slower swap speed i feel

Plasma's main thing is its braindead ez

[serene sage]

that or just higher heat ramp up, and left click shouldn't auto-vent

[gusty bison]

I dont think its broken on the high end

[near shore]

Also take off elite team highlight , and reload speed isn't needed

[fast cargo]

I've got the krak dmg because I never seem to find teams that are any good at boss dps, the suppression is mostly out of annoyance at gunners

[serene sage]

that's about it, not even damage decrease, just make it slightly less brainless to use

[gaunt hinge]

just make charging relevant

[gusty bison]

In skilled hands that is

[shut flax]

Recommend switching to Catch a Breath and removing immunity in favor of Iron Will tbh

[near shore]

Well,that's fair. But I still wouldn't take suppression immunity. I know this sounds cringe, but kill them before they start shooting,it's high priority

Iron will is goated

[shut flax]

If they do start shooting, nades are a good option.

[near shore]

I have like 180-235 toughness
Mutants literally do 1-3 dmg to me if I'm grabbed

[fast cargo]

I get it, I've just got it as training wheels, I tend to overextend and it helps compensate

[shut flax]

Suppression immunity is very much a luxury option.

[gusty bison]

Remove reload speed

[serene sage]

I would go something like this, the rest you can spec however you want

[gusty bison]

And remove suppression immunity if ur running helbore or plasma

[near shore]

If you're available,I can join you and perhaps teach?

[gusty bison]

Its worthless on those two guns

Like it is literally worthless on plasma and barely does anything on helbore

[shut flax]

Missing out on ogryn damage and iron will dang

[fast cargo]

Technically on the clock, but ty

[gusty bison]

Kantrael wants sup immunity

[shut flax]

Ayyy

[fast cargo]

Saving that for a future look, is Focus really worth it?

[serene sage]

Suppression Immune is really a case by case basis

[pallid verge]

How are braced autoguns compared to infantry autoguns?

[gusty bison]

Gun dependent

[fast cargo]

ty for the advice, swapped both

[gusty bison]

Inf auto better on vet

Br auto better on zealot

[near shore]

The keystone at max stacks let me crit one shot damnation lvl crushers easily

[pallid verge]

whyfore?

[shut flax]

The Columnus exists so infantry for vets

[fast cargo]

Focus for hellbore?

[fast cargo]

Fair

[gusty bison]

Id say nah

[serene sage]

can you hit let's say 2 headshots? that would be 10 stacks

[gusty bison]

Helbore doesnt need keystones

[fast cargo]

But getting max stacks is a PITA

Really?

[gusty bison]

Kanny can do with it

[serene sage]

because camo will get you the rest

[near shore]

That keystone gives you stacks passively

[fast cargo]

I did not do that math right

Well damn, thought headshots only gave one, that's better than I thought

[gusty bison]

Vets have massive bonuses to headshots, crits and finesse weapons.

Inf auto is a 2.7x finesse gun

Br auto is 1.3x

[near shore]

Personally,I use the semi auto,1 shot rifle. Can't remember the name it uses bullets tho

[gusty bison]

Zealot can reduce the spread of guns by 75%

So they can turn brauto into a laser beam

[pallid verge]

ooh

[shut flax]

Reasonably, the only reason you'd want middle keystone is stamina for deadshot builds, or redirect fire. It's also VERY expensive to run with onslaught.

[fast cargo]

Headhunter?

[gusty bison]

Vraks 7 headhuntet

[near shore]

Ye

[pallid verge]

ty grawr 🙏

[serene sage]

I run my Exec Stance with a Shotgun
Every game I'm killing like 200+ elites/specialists

[near shore]

I've got the
100% crit dmg
+18% crit chance on headshot

[fast cargo]

I use middle keystone on shock troop missions and then plas/chainsword spam

works well

[gusty bison]

U can use brauto on vet

Its just that its a better zealot gun

Just like how inf auto is better on vet than zel

[shut flax]

I DIDN'T CONSIDER EXEC STANCE WITH A SHOTGUN

[gusty bison]

(And how bolter is ASS on zeal but solid on vet)

[serene sage]

it really only works with agri tbf

[near shore]

Use the slug shotgun with it

[shut flax]

Absolutely

[pallid verge]

So i should be using the columnus V inf autogun? Not the agrip 1?

[shut flax]

Diet revolver might be really fun with it

[near shore]

Its one of the few times id recommend reload perks

[inland orchid]

Use many guns, see which stick and which are a waste of ducats for u

[near shore]

Having both reload perks,on slug shotgun is fun

[inland orchid]

Is my method

[shut flax]

Columnus V is great alone. If you wanna keep ammo with it, get onslaught and rending with Longshot.

[shut flax]

Basically a revolver build

[serene sage]

what I run for the slug shotty

[shut flax]

I wonder if you could run deadshot with it for the meme

[gusty bison]

Both are solid. Agri has more range but colum has more deeps

Dealer's choice

[gusty bison]

Yes

[near shore]

Mine has dum dum,raking fire and unyielding on top of weakspot dmg, beast of nurgle gets shredded

[gusty bison]

Been there. Done that

[serene sage]

yes. take triple +3 stamina curios

and brrrrr

[gusty bison]

Its INSANE but also requires insane investment

[shut flax]

I already do that with the columnus lol

It's so much fun

I just wish the crit sound wasn't so similar to the kill sound

[gusty bison]

Its like 6kdps

[near shore]

My colmnus is good for boss shredding

[shut flax]

Dum dum is just nuts

I'd almost argue that dum dum is all you really need

[gusty bison]

Raking fire on Bon bon is just lmao

Hi yes i would like to 1 clip a bon bon

[near shore]

It's a meme but I have it to fight beast of nurgle

I destroy them stupidly fast

[shut flax]

Even with a columnus without raking fire or dum dum can take down a boss fairly quickly with just deadshot alone

[fast cargo]

What's the best horde-clearing ranged option for vet, btw?

Shotty?

[near shore]

True

I'd say no

[gusty bison]

A power sword

[umbral scaffold]

power sword, yes

[gusty bison]

In all seriousness dont horde clear with ur gun

[umbral scaffold]

next to that is plasma gun

but yeah
Don't use your gun to horde clear pls

[near shore]

Devil claw

[gusty bison]

Its less efficient than ur melee and uses up ammo at a staggering rate

[umbral scaffold]

be sensible

power sword is already brainless clearing

[fast cargo]

I ask because one of my weeklys is to kill 1k dregs with ranged weapons

[strange sparrow]

Be sensible and use Columnus to clear hordes

[gusty bison]

Oh just kill dreg shooters

[strange sparrow]

Unironically a gun that can do okay to thin out hordes

[near shore]

Use the devil claw or power sword

[shut flax]

If you wanna proc headshot toughness regen, a columnus would be your best option. Though I'd only advise to shoot stragglers. Mag dumping into crowds isn't exactly ideal unless you understand exactly how your ammo economy works.

[gusty bison]

I dont think groaners count as dregs

And poxwalkers dont

[shut flax]

Even then, it's kind of a waste

[gusty bison]

So ur main source of kills is shooters anyway

[fast cargo]

Well this is gonna take ages then

[gusty bison]

Nah. Theres usually a SHIT TON of shooters

[strange sparrow]

Its usually correlated with the difficulty

[near shore]

Just use a headhunter,execute stance and perk to highlight shooters

[fast cargo]

I tend to only find scab shooters on my missions

[umbral scaffold]

ye

play Aurics

[shut flax]

You can probably hit that in 3 damnation runs tbh

[umbral scaffold]

there's so many shooters

[shut flax]

Aurics, maybe 2

[gusty bison]

And usually theres like 100 gunners a mission

[umbral scaffold]

unless you're like
running on an auric maelstrom melee only

then yeah there's not enough shooters

[near shore]

Melee only is such a fun mode

[umbral scaffold]

but in general an auric has so many shooters you shouldn't have issues

[gusty bison]

And rmb its a team effort

[umbral scaffold]

it is

[neat sluice]

what helbore lasgun should i go for?

[near shore]

I use my one shot revolver for it

[neat sluice]

I have onslaught and surgical IV now

for helbore

I want to know what variant i should roll for

[fast cargo]

What's the deal with Aurics, btw, are they just stupid hard missions with modifiers?

[near shore]

Ye

But really fun

I'm talking 4k kils

[fast cargo]

Joy, and I'm still trying to find decent perks

[crude ermine]

Just normal dam missions just with modifiers

The hard ones

[shut flax]

Think of the worst-case scenario for most damnation runs and make it the entire mission. That's aurics.

[crude ermine]

Or the highest modifier

Like hi intensity

[umbral scaffold]

there's just more dudes

[near shore]

When you read a paragraph of modifiers

[umbral scaffold]

and high intensity

[stuck gorge]

I’ve heard before by someone that it reduces time between spawn waves

[umbral scaffold]

I tihnk all Aurics are High Intensity?

[shut flax]

Like it might spawn 3 beasts of nurgles (weakened) on top of a squad of 9 gunners with 8 maulers and 6 crushers.

[fast cargo]

Looked like

[umbral scaffold]

and Auric Maelstrom is the one with the funny modifiers

[crude ermine]

Yes

[shut flax]

and that's like, average

[umbral scaffold]

I had a game where there were 5 bosses at the same time

LMAO

[crude ermine]

Sometimes you'll get a shit ton of snipers

[umbral scaffold]

that was so dumb

[crude ermine]

Sometimes specialist monsters

[umbral scaffold]

it was like 2 Ogryns and a Chaos Spawn

[fast cargo]

Last question before I have to log off for a bit and actually do work, Chainsword vs Power Sword for general use?

[near shore]

Favorite modifier is definitely monster spawning one

[umbral scaffold]

while a BoN was being like ASIJDFDIFBSKGODSFDKV

[crude ermine]

LOUD FUCKING MUTANT SPAWNS

[umbral scaffold]

At least they fixed it sort of

[crude ermine]

A LOT OF THEM

[shut flax]

Aurics make for great stories tbh. Espeically with randos.

[umbral scaffold]

they're way less loud now

Aurics are also where most of the tryhards go

[merry gale]

https://tenor.com/view/speeynetic-speed-speedy-black-man-gif-25588646

[crude ermine]

If I wanted to hear loud guys on steroids I'd go to Seattle Washington

[merry gale]

mutant modifier

[umbral scaffold]

they're still pubs

but they're usually pubs who are confident they can solo carry

[umbral scaffold]

don't listen to what reddit says about how "now noobs will go to aurics to get carried"

auric will kill anyone who's not competent lol

[near shore]

Most people in auric are actually chill

[ivory rock]

Should we give it a shot or nah?

[wary galleon]

alot of what i read in darktide reddit is so braindead lol

[umbral scaffold]

and anyone who wants to get carried will get bored cos they're dead af

[serene sage]

70% of Auric players are ok

[shut flax]

The Darktide reddit is just

awful

[rigid schooner]

no

reddit as a whole is

[near shore]

I've met only a few toxic auric players

[umbral scaffold]

yup
Awful and they actually know wat to do most of the time

[fast cargo]

I don't love that perk, but the rating isn't bad so it could roll a 4, at least

[serene sage]

Most are good, just not great

[shut flax]

The zomboid reddit is a nice place

[rigid schooner]

https://youtu.be/Ud-3beZdwQk

[crude ermine]

If I can get through aurics while highly intoxicated you can too

[umbral scaffold]

My favorite is that when someone gets netted ( which is rare )

[somber axle]

what should I change on this

[umbral scaffold]

they instantly react to save you

huge+

[near shore]

Yes,I drop everything to save em usually

[umbral scaffold]

always makes me feel good seeing people react to stuff like nets or dogs on their own

[gusty bison]

When they free u from the net b4 u hit the ground lmao

[umbral scaffold]

good feeling tbh

[shut flax]

Instant friend made tbh

[gusty bison]

surprised trapper face

[ivory rock]

update:

[umbral scaffold]

my favorite too are the vets who hear Mutants or Bursters

[shut flax]

Or if they make an effort to rescue the team before leaving a mission

[wary galleon]

what in the goddamn

[crude ermine]

Then you and the guy beat the shit out of jer

[near shore]

When you don't see the same person get eaten by the beast 5 times,it's just great

[umbral scaffold]

and just instant shout the moment they hear it

feels good

[crude ermine]

While she stands in flabbergasted

[umbral scaffold]

they're actually watching out for the team

[fast cargo]

Nice

[rigid schooner]

shoot bulwarks with scattershot shoguns

get free buff

[near shore]

When they actually push pox bursters

[crude ermine]

When I run shout vet and not hel vet i always watch for those two

Especially in shite situations

[near shore]

I usually run nutty dmg vet or support vet

[crude ermine]

Unless I'm caught by another mutant then thrown into two poxbursters

[near shore]

Sounds about right

[crude ermine]

With shout on CD

[shut flax]

Tbh scattershot is already good even without the bug

[serene sage]

Anyone here with scoreboard mod?

[near shore]

Yes

[crude ermine]

Or sometimes I don't even get the chance to fucking shout

Because the damn things damage me before the animation ends

[strange sparrow]

a lot of people does why

[serene sage]

How much damage do you deal on average per game?

Assuming you won

[gusty bison]

Did they ever fix the scoreboard mod exploit where u can change ur multiplier to inflate ur stats?

[serene sage]

The what

[ivory rock]

beeg

[serene sage]

Why would they do that

[ivory rock]

howt f

[umbral scaffold]

Cos they wanna feel good about themselves I guess

[serene sage]

But only they can see it

Lmao

[umbral scaffold]

I've seen worse

Yeah lol

[crude ermine]

Ego

[umbral scaffold]

This is that Obama meme

[wary galleon]

WTF

[ivory rock]

@quick steeple @torn root @trim steppe @frank ether Updated sword I got till I roll better mobility but shiiiii

[wary galleon]

this shit is broken lmao

[umbral scaffold]

Giving himself a medal lol

[shut flax]

cleave moment

[ivory rock]

I dont understand but I love it

[serene sage]

Manstopper?

[gusty bison]

Its just a number change in the code

Super easy

[wary galleon]

yea i got the 2 blessings the video showed and it worked

hahahaha

[umbral scaffold]

Unlimited cleave is funny

[shut flax]

tbh I kinda wanna give it a shot

[gusty bison]

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