veteran-class

[lime gyro]

Lol

[midnight totem]

That being said, I like the devil claw

[sharp ember]

would you replace your ranged weapon for a power cable for longer lasting power sword energy

[dreamy scaffold]

i have yet to play auric or more than one dam mission in over 250 hours

[wanton dawn]

Imagine not being able to kite 30 ragers

[dreamy scaffold]

yeah i would honestly

i rarely use my ranged

[lime gyro]

Auric dams arent as threatning as they seem

[crude ermine]

Offbrand zel

[lime gyro]

Its all just knowing mechanics and map

[midnight totem]

I wouldn't

[dreamy scaffold]

zel but vet drip

[crude ermine]

Just powersword and a cable connected to your back

[dusty plaza]

Look, ragers are still hard. If you find they've become less difficult, part of that is probably the recent hit point adjustment, but part of it is probably also you coping with them better.

[midnight totem]

Too many gunners

[strange sparrow]

Auric mael is easy these days, and I don't understand people saying like it's hard lmao

[lime gyro]

Cuz all aurics are is just high intensity shock trooper

[dreamy scaffold]

dodge

[strange sparrow]

and yall act like rager is the biggest reason why mission fail

[wanton dawn]

Actually, some are not shock trooper. They are notably easier

[rain badger]

What are the chances when no scripts drop in a script mission? Literally walked an entire map and found 1.

[strange sparrow]

Not like yall don't take VoC + Shredder

kekW

[lime gyro]

Who said its tbe biggest reason why mission fail

[crude ermine]

They should be on the map

[lime gyro]

Ur doing mental gymnastics and coming to random conclusions in ur own head

[crude ermine]

The spawns are usually the same(?)

[dusty plaza]

Or at least in consistent locations like in VT2

[lime gyro]

We were comparing dclaw to psword

Like lollll

[dreamy scaffold]

they are always incredibly hidden and if you find them in boxes, you might just not see them

[strange sparrow]

No? Im saying Dclaw as a standalone weapon is bland

average

I don't really care about Psword

[dusty plaza]

There is a mod that will notify you when you are near one

[lime gyro]

Ur opinion is nothing more then an opinion

[dreamy scaffold]

ofc it is

[rain badger]

Ya what? They don’t spawn in boxes lmao

[strange sparrow]

I stop playing it because it's stupidly strong

[dreamy scaffold]

ive seen them in boxes

boxes and ground spawns

[rain badger]

Because your teammates switched them lmao

[dreamy scaffold]

nah ive seen them in boxes

[lime gyro]

They spawn in boxes

[strange sparrow]

Imagine thinking people only play Psword rather than ChainSword ChainAxe Shovel

[lime gyro]

Its not often but its happened before

[strange sparrow]

[lime gyro]

Although recently im not sure if i did

[dreamy scaffold]

like ive opened boxes and theres a script

[lime gyro]

Cuz i dont pay attention like thst

[rain badger]

700hrs
Must be the only person to not see them in boxes

[lime gyro]

But 100000% ive seen them before

I mean i got like what 1100 hrs now

[dreamy scaffold]

idk what to tell you

[strange sparrow]

I dont see them in box

Ever

[rain badger]

Anyways. TM8-707, 1 script found.

[slate sleet]

scrips and grims are outdated i dont even know why thats a mechanic anymore

[midnight totem]

I play power sword and chainsword

[lime gyro]

Just for melk bucks

[dreamy scaffold]

they arent even a good boost

[rain badger]

Looked at all the usual places, found in a holding cell at the end

[lime gyro]

No other point for scrips and grim

[midnight totem]

And shovel

[lime gyro]

Aside frm melk bucks

[strange sparrow]

There's no Boost

That's the thing

[midnight totem]

And devil claw

[strange sparrow]

IT"S DOCKET

ITS JUST MONEY AND XP

WHY

[midnight totem]

And I'm building a knife

[lime gyro]

Melk bucks

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-toothless-dragon-lizard-dance-dancing-gif-18147614732076936345

[dusty plaza]

Psword is gratifying.
Dclaw is technical.
Dagger is fast.
Chainsword is shreddery.
Shoved is shovel.
Chainaxe is
Tac axes are hacky
Combat axes are choppy

[dreamy scaffold]

the rewards you get arent a worthwhile boost..?

[slate sleet]

they should make scrips into mini zealot relics with a recharge time of 1min or something so its a way to make the mission easier

[lime gyro]

If ur not grinding melk contracts theres no point

doing scripts or grin

[slate sleet]

so people actually go around and look in the side rooms instead of pressing w constantly

[rain badger]

melk sells 1 good thing a month. change my mind

[lime gyro]

grim

Ur not wrong

[dusty plaza]

All the weapons are cool.

[dreamy scaffold]

ive only recently been able to do melk missions

they never worked before for me

[slate sleet]

so tired of being the plasteel janny for these adhd zoomers

[lime gyro]

I went from 27k plasteel to 2k plasteel

[rain badger]

Plasteel vaccuuuuuuum

[lime gyro]

Painz in the veinz of my brainz

[slate sleet]

always some fat ogryn chungus spamming this way ping

[lime gyro]

Back to farming the shit outta plasteel again

[slate sleet]

mission ends i have 500 plasteel picked up everyone else has like 10

[dusty plaza]

I buy blessings from melk

[rain badger]

"crafting sucks!" - says the guy who doesnt pick up plasteel and walks past it

[dusty plaza]

I see a rank 4 blessing, I buy it

That's what he's there for

[rain badger]

but crafting does suck ass

[lime gyro]

The rng on crafting sucks

[rain badger]

correct

[lime gyro]

Sooo much

[slate sleet]

i really hate people who rush missions

[lime gyro]

I want to fucking kill hadron

And turn her into a microwave

Then put a fork in the microwave

[slow spade]

This is why I play Chain Axe + Revved Up Zealot with Run and Gun Brauto UwU

[rain badger]

I have like 6 "good" guns and 4 "good" melee

[dreamy scaffold]

and somehow people still think it doesnt share for everyone…?

[lime gyro]

Bro i spent 25k plasteel

For 1 blessing

Didnt even end up getting it

[slate sleet]

i dont think anyone believes that anymore

was funny trolling people in the beta tho

[slow spade]

You get used to it

[lime gyro]

Its so stupid i dont even wana mention how many dockets i spent at brunts

[rain badger]

upgrade 370+ base score weapons only, and after about 3 upgraded weapons you should regularly get IV blessings

[lime gyro]

Yea i know thats what i do

[serene sage]

skill issue

[rain badger]

brunt is made to piss you off lmao

dont do it

[lime gyro]

I spent like 6 mil dockets almost

[dusty plaza]

My biggest problem is I feel like it punishes trying new things

[forest scaffold]

Are you fishing for power cycler

[lime gyro]

At brunts

[slow spade]

:c

[lime gyro]

Trying to get 370+

[forest scaffold]

it sounds like you're fishing for power cycler

[lime gyro]

Weapons

[dusty plaza]

And people are always like "but you just get a weapon and you try it"

[forest scaffold]

The crafting is undefendable dogshit

[slow spade]

I run +30% dockets on my curios lol

[midnight totem]

I only spent 5k plasteel for power cycler 4

[lime gyro]

Literally

[dusty plaza]

But I did not say "random" things
i said new things

[forest scaffold]

unless your goal is to expend as many player hours as possible

[slate sleet]

just spent 60000000000 plastic bottles on poop shitter 5 and didnt get it!!!!!!!!!!!!! my life is in shambles

[rain badger]

just get a Rashad combat axe with BM and Decimator. Spam heavies on the tough shit and mulch crowds. PS is fine, but not great

[midnight totem]

The Emperor blesses me

[wanton dawn]

Stop dissing on engagement metrics

[crude ermine]

I've just given up and taken what I've got so long as it's sufficient

[slow spade]

The funny part is there's literally nothing redeeming about it. Its just pure shit

[rain badger]

Chaxe is god tier

[serene sage]

I mean how often do you make a new build?

[forest scaffold]

There's one redeeming aspect

[serene sage]

that requires both new melee and ranged?

[forest scaffold]

You ALWAYS get one perk and one blessing of your choice

no matter what

[midnight totem]

I should try a combat axe

[forest scaffold]

Granted

[serene sage]

don't you guys have a "main"?

[dusty plaza]

I just buy everything 370+ at the requisitorum and then whenever I want to try something, I'll have like 3 high level ones I can brick before I spend all my money at Brunt's

[forest scaffold]

even that is gated by RNG

[dusty plaza]

No problem.

[forest scaffold]

Because you need to earn a blessing first to place it elsewhere

[dreamy scaffold]

been using the same build for over 6 months

[rain badger]

depending on mood

[forest scaffold]

I main ogryn

[serene sage]

yeah same
i have one stable build and a test build

[dusty plaza]

Once a week maybe?

[rain badger]

been using infantry autos a lot recently, scratching the shooting itch

[wanton dawn]

I rarely switch out of powersword. I do switch my ranged from time to time

[dreamy scaffold]

vet since launch…

[rain badger]

I only have vet lmao

same

[forest scaffold]

my vet is ~250

zealot is ~260

Psyker is ~130

Ogryn is ~450

that's my level count on classes

[dreamy scaffold]

i have a reg lasgun and the occasional meme gun

[serene sage]

I have a Boltgun and an Agri Shotgun build

that's about it

[slow spade]

Still a newbie I see UwU

[dreamy scaffold]

my only max is vet because im too lazy to level up another class, my ogryn is lvl 18 and he will collect dust

[slate sleet]

450 levels of ogryn, may god have mercy on your wretched soul

[forest scaffold]

lets go get the exact values

[wanton dawn]

Level... ~1070

[forest scaffold]

ogryn is fun

[serene sage]

I guess I have a Plasma and Revolver too but those are just whatever I want cause those guns OP

[forest scaffold]

like super fun

dunno what you're on about

[crude ermine]

They're my favorite weapons

[slow spade]

Only problem I have with Ogryn is Rumbler need love

[dusty plaza]

I don't care for ogryns

[slow spade]

I love Rumbler

[rain badger]

been doming people with this recently

[serene sage]

I can't get into ogryn

[slow spade]

But Kickback keeps pulling me back

[lime gyro]

Poopshitter was my downfall

[wary galleon]

Hell yeah

[dusty plaza]

Kickback is my fave, but it just feels so.... ponderous

[dreamy scaffold]

my brother in christ, where is your stock

[dusty plaza]

The whole character

[forest scaffold]

here we go

[slow spade]

Omnissiah-blessed weapon

[serene sage]

you move slow, you're clunky, you're big, you don't do a lot of damage

[lime gyro]

poopshitter made me more appreciative of my dclaw

[rain badger]

its uh... in the shop. I have papers for it

[serene sage]

(the damage part might be just skill issue on me)

[wanton dawn]

Oh man you beat hm with all 4 classes

[dusty plaza]

I mean the agripinaa's always been amazing. It was good before 14.

[slow spade]

To be fair, you move as fast as the other classes you just feel slower

[forest scaffold]

lmao

[dreamy scaffold]

[serene sage]

but I feel like when im playing ogryn that is not kickback, everything around me just dies to teammates

[slate sleet]

my favorite thing about ogryn is how they always stand perfectly in my way so i cant kill stuff effectively

[wary galleon]

i was so worried that once shit walker hitting me would fuck the penance up. but apparently damage towards toughness dosent count, so ez pz

[lime gyro]

i was using mg 12 back then

[slate sleet]

then get gunned down by gunners and leave immediately

[forest scaffold]

dont worry sah, i'm doing all the killing anyway

just watch me back sah

[strange sparrow]

Damn I can't upload a video clip here kiting rager

[lime gyro]

I have like atleast 700 hrs with my Mg XII bro that shit carried me

[forest scaffold]

But like actually

[slow spade]

One of the reasons I'm a plasma main lol

[dreamy scaffold]

ogryn does good damage

[slate sleet]

actual cringebomb being dropped on me

mods

[forest scaffold]

holy fuck QUIT FUCKING COMPLAINING AND JUST LOOK BACKWARDS FOR THE CONSTANT BACKSPAWNS

[strange sparrow]

But here's what im gonna say, Exec Stances Hellbore rule

[forest scaffold]

INSTEAD OF BITCHING AT PEOPLE WITH THE BIGGEST HITBOX THEY CANT CONTROL

[forest scaffold]

or you know

[rain badger]

play Vet. Press ability, start mowing shit down. Ogryn teammate walks in front to shoot his shotgun at range, I dont get to keep ability up.

[forest scaffold]

just use plasma gun

[slow spade]

Same, I used MK12 until Patch 13 lol

[forest scaffold]

or revolver

[wary galleon]

but i wanna shoot the horde INFRONT of me

[forest scaffold]

and shoot through your teammates

[crude ermine]

For some reason during my helbore experience I've had this happen more than any weapon

[strange sparrow]

You can clearly see this clip what my ogryn do to me

[serene sage]

but they can

[crude ermine]

Like whenever I decide to run it the games like

"Send the ogryn, no not the helpful one, THAT one"

[forest scaffold]

fwiw, his shotgun is better than everything on vet but plasma gun and revolver

kickback op

[serene sage]

look if im literally on the leftmost side I can, you don't need to also be on the leftmost side of the map

[crude ermine]

Because it's the only mfing build I use exe stance

[serene sage]

especially when I'm already shooting

[wary galleon]

if the emperor did not intend for me to carry a condensed m60 with ammunition for a small war. to not empty into the combined mass of a small country. then he would not have sent me

[rain badger]

is kickback the single shot? because this was the auto one or whatever

[lime gyro]

i only use exec stance if i run ventilation purge

[rain badger]

[forest scaffold]

Oh, rippers are magazine

kickback is single shot

rippers are fine

[dusty plaza]

But it loads fast

[strange sparrow]

VoC is just a free win

[dusty plaza]

The kickback

[forest scaffold]

if kinda frustrating to use in auric

[strange sparrow]

If you play VoC and lose on Auric Mael

You have skill issue

[dreamy scaffold]

im skill issue

[lime gyro]

u can still lose cuz of a bad team

[stiff dragon]

I think there is a hidden minion build in the game. Check out the team member Count XD

[serene sage]

much elitism

[dusty plaza]

I mean if you have anything and lose on anything you have a skill issue

[strange sparrow]

But it’s the true

CIAG PS6 VOC

[dusty plaza]

You could have been like ChocoB and just clutched it

[strange sparrow]

just guarantee a free win

[wary galleon]

ive seen that happen before. think its the fault of somones mod or something

[serene sage]

it's like saying if you lose any game ever you have skill issue

[lime gyro]

its happened to me before

[serene sage]

it's only true technically

[lime gyro]

i dont run any mods and stuff

[strange sparrow]

And I did

[serene sage]

but not practically

[strange sparrow]

I run into my own skill issue of not looking at my back

[lime gyro]

sometimes game will glitch out and the ai tht replaced u

[strange sparrow]

And that’s a skill issue smh

[lime gyro]

wont go when u rejoin

[strange sparrow]

[slow spade]

Need a team of 4 VoC spamming Vets

[lime gyro]

so u'll basically have an extra gun

[sharp ember]

I’ve had bonus bots before, funny server glitch

[serene sage]

that definition of skill issue isn't worth discussing tbh

[wary galleon]

Any tips for this one?

[lime gyro]

bonus bots are based

[serene sage]

I mean I lose like 1 or 2 games in 10 maybe

[rain badger]

thank you mission reward, very cool

[sacred spindle]

Revolver

[lime gyro]

revolver if u have good aim

[strange sparrow]

Which sometime is 10%-90% of your fault

[serene sage]

but there are things in the game that are kinda BS, calling everything oh if you lose you suck is just plain lazy

[dusty plaza]

Pick a weapon with low ammo count, spend the first part aiming carefully and then do the rest with melee only

[lime gyro]

shotgun or plasma if u have bad aim

[strange sparrow]

Smh should had kill those BS before BS caught you

Or dez barrel

[serene sage]

well im sorry im human

[sacred spindle]

shotgun does pellets weird for accuracy so strongly recommend not doing that based on what I've heard here

[serene sage]

or sorry im me ig

maybe you're a god who doesn't lose

whatever

[chrome pumice]

oh vet lords. Is it worth keeping sustained fire on Helbore lasguns

[crude ermine]

No

[chrome pumice]

darn

[slow spade]

No

Not when Surgical and Onslaught exist

[wary galleon]

hmm which has lowest ammo, plasma or revolver

[sharp ember]

when you hit 0 ammo, equip your melee and never switch back for the remainer of the mission. Ammo regenerated from survivalist aura will not be detected for the penance if you do this

[wary galleon]

technically it would be plasma no? if you do high powered shots only

[chrome pumice]

ngl those are really good.

[serene sage]

sounds about right, you get like a bit more than 20 shots if you right click only?

[wary galleon]

ah i could also just use my melee vet who dosent have survialist aura, and use plasma no? then pray there is no other vet with survivalist?

[rain badger]

this good at all?

[dusty plaza]

Nah just use like pistol or something. It doesn't really matter as long as it's not like a lasgun or something that never runs out. And maybe forego survivalist entirely for something else.

While it's true survivalist won't count, it makes it harder to keep count

[serene sage]

I mean right click plasma will run out of ammo a lot faster than revolver

[wary galleon]

yea thats my thoughts too, hmm think ill test it out

[rain badger]

or this?

[sharp ember]

yes but now you don’t have to leave when a survivalist vet joins, which is 50% of the playerbase

[dusty plaza]

Oh does it count other people's auras?

I did not know that.

[serene sage]

gotta give it to FS for designing such stupid penances that you are actively griefing yourself and your teammates to a certain degree to get

[dusty plaza]

Yeah it's nonsense. I'm just glad to have most of them over with.

[strange sparrow]

@serene sage I mean I lose sometime but I would call it I didn’t carry hard enough

[dusty plaza]

Still have to hit a sniper with a stun grenade, I think that's about it.

[strange sparrow]

And I totally consider what should I did better

Maybe kill the bulwark for my team first etc

[wary galleon]

you are saying the matchmaker would have higher likelyhood of adding a vet with survialist, if i did not have it myself already?

[strange sparrow]

Just that Auric Mael is just too easy rn especially with all the OP gun and talent

[dusty plaza]

No I think he's saying that it does not count bullets from your survivalist aura, but does count it from other peoples'?

Although you could just do a private lobby

[slow spade]

"Should have won, would have prevented this" -Nahcies' Introspection

[dusty plaza]

There's usually people in lfg willing to help out

[sharp ember]

I think they can both cook.

[serene sage]

my issue with it isn't the "growth minset" or whatever the fuck you want to call it
my issue is that you saying "if you lose with VoC on Mael, you have skill issue" is imflammatory

that's it

[rain badger]

thanks

[strange sparrow]

It is thou, Skill issue ngl

[serene sage]

like i said, it's only true on a technical sense

[wary galleon]

yea i understood the part about my own. but wondering regardless if i got aura that the matchmaker would add a vet if the team did not have the aura,

[serene sage]

but you are putting down the accomplishment of both yourself and others

by saying that]

[sharp ember]

no, just that almost every vet you play with will choose to run survivalist

[serene sage]

keep hustling I guess

[dusty plaza]

If you ever die from anything anywhere it's a skill issue. Even in real life.

[slow spade]

I do find it funny when Mael decides to spam 1 specialist only

[wary galleon]

ah okay i see

[slow spade]

"I'm feeling snipers today"

[strange sparrow]

I mean yeah, it doesn't take a lot to win Auric Mael rn with VoC spam...

[slate sleet]

since when are these penances not a achievement on steam i could have sword it used to be this way

[wary galleon]

what is VoC spam?

[umbral scaffold]

Voice of command

[dusty plaza]

I mean it does take a lot

[umbral scaffold]

The shield shout

[wary galleon]

ah thanks

[dusty plaza]

To win maelstroms

[slow spade]

Voice of Command has 50% uptime so if you have 1 or 2 Vets...

[dusty plaza]

Most people can not do auric maelstrom

[strange sparrow]

Look at our Yellow Toughness

[umbral scaffold]

Voice of command is just strong

[crude ermine]

Just cycle in between the vets

[wary galleon]

yea i heard about that it was good.
got flamed to shit on reddit for saying i normally choose the revive perk

[strange sparrow]

+250 Toughness kekW

[dusty plaza]

So if you can, you are more skilled than most people.

[crude ermine]

Once one goes off the other comes on and repeat

[slow spade]

Revive perk is shit tbh

[dusty plaza]

Which is fine, but it does take a lot

[serene sage]

cool bro, the word "skill issue" is just a thinly veiled desciption so you can be assholes to others while pretending to put yourself down

[crude ermine]

The piss toughness

[slow spade]

As you can just shout and pick them up

[wary galleon]

Hahahahaha that is fucking broken lmao

[serene sage]

unless it's clearly skill issue

[umbral scaffold]

It's op
Revive perk is kind of a trap but Reddit is dumb anyway and revive perk still works
It just makes your shout worse
But it's still a shout

[strange sparrow]

I mean Yeah, If I lose Mael Auric with VoC CIAG and PS6, I would legit call myself skill issue tbh

[slate sleet]

this guy gaming underwater, hardcore

[strange sparrow]

I wouldn't say that's a bullshit director

[sacred spindle]

It's one of those that's useless 95% of the time but clutch 5%

[umbral scaffold]

Yup

The real issue with revive shout is

It's a talent point

I wouldn't mind if it's a sidegrade

[strange sparrow]

Because how much DPS is these 2 weapon + toughness regen is with VoC

and how abusive is VoC on Auric Mael

[slow spade]

Also that revive shout lowers your cooldown

[sacred spindle]

The other shout reduces the odds you'll need reviving in he first place

[strange sparrow]

as you can see in the video

[umbral scaffold]

But being a sidegrade that costs a talent point is why I don't like it

[serene sage]

you're really missing the point

but cool

[sacred spindle]

So idk

[strange sparrow]

+250 Piss Toughness

KekW

[dusty plaza]

If you are consistently performing well on Auric Maelstrom, you are in the top like .1% of players, and you probably have hundreds of hours in the game. That's a lot. Having to play like a top tier player is asking a lot from most players.

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah
I wish Reddit sees that

[wary galleon]

yea i agree. i understand that, i just like to have that extra revive help since i dont spam the VoC.
and apparently im now a shitlord with 0 skill and a bedard :KEKW_ogryn:

[umbral scaffold]

But they keep saving it for bad situations

[umbral scaffold]

It's Reddit
They think vets are squishy and die to a sneeze

[strange sparrow]

I mean I only have roughly 400 hours playing this game, and only 300 match played atm

[sacred spindle]

Just run executioners for the highlighting, don't share with your team, pew pew pew

[strange sparrow]

as Im still grinding pennaces

[dusty plaza]

That's a lot, though.

[umbral scaffold]

"if a disabler catches me I'm dead"

[strange sparrow]

Not a lot compared to some people here

[wary galleon]

stuck on 5 patches ago it seems lol

[umbral scaffold]

But that's what disablers r supposed to do ahh

[strange sparrow]

with like +300-600 true level

[serene sage]

Reddit thinks Plasma is perfectly balanced

[dusty plaza]

Those are probably not the people having trouble with Aurics.

[serene sage]

that's all you need to know about their skill level

[slow spade]

Plasma is underpowered anyways

[crude ermine]

Should be the other way around if you catch that slippery anklelicker

[slow spade]

Needs another 50% damage

[crude ermine]

Unless you already got caught

[strange sparrow]

Also Darktide have stupidly good I-Frame so I don't know

[crude ermine]

Then uj

[umbral scaffold]

"but there's a delay so it's balanced"

[crude ermine]

Squirm

[wary galleon]

i dont normally shit on reddit because i use it myself. but goddamn if there arent some absolute morons who debate just for the sake of it like some sterotype atheist that thrives on conflict

[umbral scaffold]

gun ignores suppression, pinpoint accurate, kills everything, and requires just a bit of ammo management to not run out

[serene sage]

also kudos for whoever suggested we double Bolter damage to make it "on par" with other guns

[umbral scaffold]

Mm yes balanced

Reddit tier balance

[strange sparrow]

Totally why Bolter aren't good rn

[serene sage]

like that's 1.5x more OP than patch 12 Bolter in term of raw damage

[strange sparrow]

It doesn't have enough DPS guys

[slow spade]

Doubles bolter damage -> gives the bolter to enemy gunners to make it balanced

[frank ether]

its balanced when I join their lobby and steal all their kills with helbore

[wary galleon]

if i cant insta kill an ogryn with my bolter. then its super duper unbalanced

[umbral scaffold]

If it kicks like how we use it
It would be a nerf to how their hotshots work

[serene sage]

mfw I keep topping damage and kills with an agri shotty

[umbral scaffold]

Gunners would actually start missing now

[slow spade]

They'll find a way, the AI always does UwU

[umbral scaffold]

Instead of noscoping you 24/7

[umbral scaffold]

True

[slate sleet]

agri is good tho

[umbral scaffold]

I malded the other day when I got last samuraied by a gunner

[versed merlin]

ahh i see you have been converted. welcome brother

[serene sage]

I have 1.5x than theirs combined

[wary galleon]

karking love the agri shotty

[slow spade]

"Hmm the gunners are missing, what if I start spawning the gunners behind people"

[umbral scaffold]

I just wanted to dash and kill stuff 😔

[serene sage]

it's funni

[crude ermine]

Nurgle must be proud

[wary galleon]

its like the only ranged i use on zealot

[crude ermine]

He must've gotten his lil treat

[wary galleon]

its so underrated

[serene sage]

ngl it's like a bolter but worse, it has better handling and that's about it

still fun though

[umbral scaffold]

It was actually the last samurai movie too
Bro actually interrupted me mid dash so I was stuck getting Perma stunned moving forward for 2 seconds

[serene sage]

would recommend

[umbral scaffold]

Basically melted

:prayge:

[slow spade]

I do wish the shotgun had some built-in cleave

[wary galleon]

its also good at sniping with like 100x better ammo efficiency

[serene sage]

yeah shotty can really use a cleave buff

[slow spade]

Feels bad when 1 dude eats all the pellets

[chrome pumice]

gotta say. Opening salvo makes lasguns bearable.

[serene sage]

but then with high cleave idk how that would work with fullbore

[crude ermine]

That random poxwalker had a really bad day to eat all those shots

[serene sage]

if you can keep fullbore with high cleave that might be ok

[crude ermine]

It's sufficable till you get the good blessings

[versed merlin]

yeah i also swapped my agri loadout to bolter cause i got bored of loading slug every damn time and i can see that

[slate sleet]

it makes no real difference

[serene sage]

though i have changed my mind on the sound effect of bolt vs shotty

shotty is more crunchy

[slate sleet]

you can never normal 1 shot flak armor

[crude ermine]

Mmm

[serene sage]

and satifying

[crude ermine]

Crunchyy

[versed merlin]

nah bolter sound effects are the main reason why i like that gun lmao

its my favorite sound effect in this whole game prob

[strange sparrow]

I still expecting bolter magdump to kill everything infront of me because how long it take for me to took it out and reload

[chrome pumice]

oh im talkin bout the normal guardsman lasgun. not sure if the otehr lasgun works

[low oar]

Thunk think thunk thunk thunk thunk
Bassy ping

[chrome pumice]

I wish i can get that :<

[crude ermine]

You'll get there

[serene sage]

plasma and revolver have really changed how people think of ttk tbh

[crude ermine]

Unfortunately the way getting there is filled with holes you gotta climb out of

[chrome pumice]

lasguns aint as good but it is good versatility

[crude ermine]

But it'll happen

[wary galleon]

ill fooking bash ye'ead in ya karking grunt

[strange sparrow]

Hellbore is bad, FS please buff Hellbore fr

More cleave pls

Fr fr

[slate sleet]

if you mean 20% increased dmg on the 1st shot it makes no real difference on the infantry lasguns you cannot 1 shot flak elites and carapace is basically invulnerable

[slow spade]

Hellbore with 1200 rpm when?

[strange sparrow]

Full auto mod buddy

Uncharged only

[serene sage]

next patch but only for psykers

[slow spade]

Not fast enough UwU

[slow spade]

Pain :c

[slow garden]

Plas and revolver, amazing ttk at any range, short or long.

[low oar]

I really wish that the zarona revolver could get opening shot

[slow garden]

Can hit 1 shot breakpoints on most enemies

[low oar]

Legitimately the best gun for it or the shotgims

But no

It's now just a trash perk

[serene sage]

but they can't nerf the 2 guns without Reddit crying "FS hates fun"

[slow garden]

Wonder if FS will nerf plas and revolver or if they will buff other guns

[crude ermine]

They should nerf your shoes

[slow garden]

Tbh I want them to buff other guns

[serene sage]

yeah well it's not fun for other people who want to try other guns and got perma KSed by Plasma and Revolvers

[crude ermine]

Socks and slippers only

[slow garden]

Or add flexible alt fires to them

[slate sleet]

the other guns dont need buffs you would know this if you actually tried any of them

[slow garden]

Got all 3 classes at 30, and have tried many of the other guns

[muted knot]

Mg1a against a columus vet and 2 zealots, how do i even compete ? the quality of damnationt teammates keeps going down the gutter

[serene sage]

just double Plasma heat generating rate and left click can now kill you instead of the baby mode auto vent
revolver can have its cleave reduced significantly

and bam

[strange sparrow]

The guns don’t need buff for veteran because you could bandaid anything to okish

[serene sage]

you can still do damage and oneshot stuff but it takes a little more brain now

[strange sparrow]

Like you could even bandaid recon lasgun

[slow garden]

Personally I think headhunter could use some help, shotguns, autopistol. Recon las, obviously.

[strange sparrow]

If you try hard enough

[slow spade]

Plasma vent now reduces hp again

[low oar]

Main issue is the ridiculous cleave on the braindead left click. The cleave should be moved to the charged shot

[slow garden]

Tbh even if you halved the cleave on the plasgun left click I'd still pick it over most weapons

[serene sage]

well the heat rate can help with that because you actually need to think about what to shoot

[crude ermine]

I wouldn't mind that

[low oar]

Line of ragers? A couple of left clicks should fix that

[slate sleet]

how the fuck do headhunters need help?

[crude ermine]

Still has my fav aspects of the revolver

[serene sage]

but yeah, maybe the cleave can be moved to right click as well, but that will trigger Reddit

[slate sleet]

have you ever tried one

are we playing the same game?

[wary galleon]

hard time realizing punching with melee vet build is doing this much damage lmao

[tiny summit]

I want them to nerf guns or make a new difficulty. Dunno exactly what I'd want. I do think a lot of stuff is overtuned and think you can kill a bit too easily in auric damns. I want aurics to be harder but considering how the philosophy of the Director is to be either asleep or unit spam, uh idk what to do. Kinda want some more stability in the director within set difficulties

[slow garden]

Yessir we are, and yessir I have

[serene sage]

im honestly trying to find a way to balance without people crying too much about "FS hates fun"

[slow garden]

Mind I am comparing headhunters against revolver and plas here

[slow spade]

Give plasma assail tracking

[low oar]

protip: you don't

[slow spade]

[serene sage]

I mean I think the 2 ideas I had are perfectly reasonable

[wary galleon]

what do you guys think is better?
the old knife?
or new knife?

[serene sage]

then again im not in charge of balancing

[chrome pumice]

eh true. but still got enough against shotgunners, ragers, and the rest of the lot. it aint like boltor but the other enemies are more common

and a nightmare against in crowds...lke jesus dude

[low oar]

Someone's going to bitch about change

[serene sage]

it's about the amount and the impression of the change

some people will still post them killing 10x shotguners in one go

and that's enough to change the persepective of the gun, even though the number of times you can do that goes down significantly

[low oar]

Which honestly should be a thing if you actually prepare and plan for it with a charged shot

Just to keep the power fantasy

[tiny summit]

That also depends on people's egos. I'd be completely fine if I got skill filtered back to heresy as long as I find heresy fun and challenging enough. How much should we have power fantasy? How difficult should the 2 highest difficulties be? But then there's crafting that's tied to difficulty dictating how many resources spawn in a map.

[low oar]

And really, left clicks should get the psyker experience of blowing you up

The main issue is how brain dead the left clicks are for how much it gives

[slate sleet]

ok? last time i checked vraks 7 one shots every special and does insane damage to bosses

[tiny summit]

So people wouldn't want to be skill filtered down if their resource acquisition got slowed because of higher difficulty

[rain badger]

he wants SBMM in a PVE game

[low oar]

Every gun in the game is bad and needs buffs if you compare it to the OP weapons

[tiny summit]

Whut?

[low oar]

Skill based matchmaking

[serene sage]

skill based matchmaking

[rain badger]

[slow garden]

Isn't the sacrifice of making the vraks 7 do that pretty costly in vets talent tree?

[tiny summit]

I know what it means but I'm just "whut"

[serene sage]

yeah at the minimum they should do this

the auto vent is kinda silly

[slate sleet]

you just use a voc mark target build so no

[serene sage]

like plasma without the risk

[tiny summit]

Yea there's no risk to plasma if I can just tap fire with no concern

[celest vine]

Why can psyker shreek save them from peril downs but our shout cant get the fucking hound to fuck off?

[low oar]

It does?

[celest vine]

You didnt know that?

Thats why many people run it

[low oar]

It definitely staggers hounds

[serene sage]

server is run by hamsters
they need breaks

[celest vine]

I mean when a hound locks you in place

Cant use it to get them off you

[rain badger]

“You didn’t hit that dude in the head, you have to waste another round.” - Server

[serene sage]

wait psykers can shriek to get dogs off? what?

[low oar]

The shout doesn't work through walls like shriek

[tiny summit]

Vets are afraid of dogs when that close

[strange sparrow]

No

Wait wrongly reply

[serene sage]

Shout defnitely works through walls lol

[celest vine]

But a psyker can save themelves when they inevitablely blow their brains up

[strange sparrow]

Shiek doesn’t work on getting hound

[celest vine]

Thats what psyker shriek can save you from

[slate sleet]

what are you talking about

[serene sage]

that's normal though?

[low oar]

You can't use abilities when you're pinned

[strange sparrow]

I mean Shriek is just

[low oar]

Shriek and VoC both knock hounds off teammates

[celest vine]

You should on shout

[strange sparrow]

I ask the chaos whisper to fuck off

[low oar]

No.

[serene sage]

I feel like this comparison is a little lopsided friend

I see what you're trying to say

[strange sparrow]

Respectfully fuck off - John DarkMagician

[slate sleet]

yeah make it so you can climb out of the net too with shout

jesus christ

[low oar]

"I want a get out of jail free card for my misplay pls"

[celest vine]

Noise abilities should save you from dogs

Cause fuck dogs theyre worse than trappers

[slate sleet]

learn to play

[low oar]

Remove hounds and all specials

There solved

[serene sage]

chill boys

[low oar]

I shouldn't die in this game

[serene sage]

jeez

[celest vine]

ATF the dog

[rain badger]

Local police department the dog

[low oar]

Alcohol, tobacco, firearms department

[serene sage]

🇺🇸

[rain badger]

Sir, the dog is wagging its tail at me.
“Gun. Him. Down.”

[low oar]

But no. A get out of jail free card for hounds and specials is bad gameplay design

[celest vine]

Heretics will strap poxburster bombs to dogs

[celest vine]

Thats literally what Voc and shriek are as an ability

[low oar]

The only one that exists is that ogryn keystone where you cause knoxkbsck if you lose all those resistance stacks

[celest vine]

Cant manage psyker peril? Run shriek

[low oar]

You use an ability to prevent or help a teammate proactively instead of "oh I should have done this. Let me just ignore my mistake"

[rain badger]

Pox bursters are now covered in carapace, move twice as slow, have twice the explosion radius

[celest vine]

My mistake was not looking behind me when the dog spawn noise never played

[celest vine]

Theyre carapace now?

[tiny summit]

My friend can perfectly use his melee when he pushes or dodges a dog. He will always swap to revolver

[low oar]

And being out of position where a teammate can knock it off for you

[agile forge]

What are the right perks for mark VI power sword again?

[celest vine]

Sometimes there too many enemies for it to happen

[agile forge]

I got 8% elites and 25% unarmoured

[rain badger]

Saved

[tiny summit]

I can't read

[agile forge]

but can only change one of them

[celest vine]

Also 20% corruption for it touching you, even if they instantly get knocked off

[rain badger]

Do you think we will ever get a ranged monstrosity? Maybe a teleporting sniper with smoke nades?

[celest vine]

Yes we will

Dont worryp

[agile forge]

Power cycler III only atm sadly, but brutal momentum IV at least

[low oar]

The BoN pukes at you

[rain badger]

Isn’t that from VT?

[rain badger]

TIL I can also be a ranged monstrosity

[chrome pumice]

say is terrifying barrage worth using on revolver?

[celest vine]

Its a plauge ogryn varient

[low oar]

It's worth it on exactly 0 weapons

[serene bough]

TB isn't worth it

[chrome pumice]

damn. the math seems bout right

[agile forge]

Arguably worth it on purgatus, but I don't buy it personally

[tiny summit]

What even is this?

[chrome pumice]

Aight whats good blessing in revoler.

[celest vine]

Comminity nicknamed it the “tox ogryn”

[chrome pumice]

bob chungus

[agile forge]

Zarona likes hand-cannon and surgical

[serene bough]

Flamer plogryn

[low oar]

Surgical + hand cannon

[serene bough]

Or maybe some tox cannon

[rain badger]

We need rocket launchers in this game

[chrome pumice]

dayum.

[low oar]

I also use crucian and hand cannon if it's a fast swap build

[tiny summit]

Is it just like chilling in the asset files?

[chrome pumice]

time to get handcanno

[serene bough]

Yeah its been there for a while

[celest vine]

Yep

[serene bough]

Since launch

[celest vine]

Like the chaos spawn

Just there

Menacing

[tiny summit]

Damn. Soon tm

[celest vine]

Cause chaos spawn didnt exist at launch

[chrome pumice]

dont cha hate it when you wanna change blessings. But is ONE plasteel away from changing

bruuuuuhhhh

[grand lark]

Def not worth it on Purgatue you suppress everything around you so much anyways

Plus I'm not even sure TB would proc on burn kills lol

[shadow aurora]

Theres only two good blessings on purg staff and thats warp nexus and chained secondary

Im not sure if were talking about flamer or staff but regardless i have made my peace

[agile forge]

Focused Channelling isn't bad either

but would probably rather nexus/flurry

safety blanket vs maximum burnination

nexus is the essential one

[shadow aurora]

Thats no interrupt during secondary right

[agile forge]

which obviously doesn't exist for me

yep

[shadow aurora]

Its alright ig if you dont know how to use purg yet but once you get good with it you rarely ever get hit while youre purging

[agile forge]

Yeah. Gotta get that dodge spam just right.

[celest vine]

Saw this once

Hoping to see it again one day

[serene sage]

So that's like lasgunners everywhere?

[celest vine]

Gunners, guardsmen, snipers

Reapers

[grand lark]

Zased

[celest vine]

Flamers often too

And trappers

Ocasionally a crusher horde will spawn in

[rain badger]

mostly ranged enemies? sounds fun as fuck

[celest vine]

An actually good maelstrom

Run an MG12 or lucius and click on heads

[tiny summit]

I actually like vent purge w/o snipers

[celest vine]

Normally my buddies will run shield ogryn with taunt on block and ill run executioners stance

The 8 snipers focus the bullgryn and I have them highlighted

[tiny summit]

Did a vent purge with exe plasma. I hit a DH

[celest vine]

I ran a 4 vet team with all krak once

Spot and threw all krak at a monstrosity at once

[rain badger]

here, watch this lmao

[agile forge]

The thing about krak is it's very moreish

[celest vine]

We crowned a daemonhost

[serene bough]

Wym moreish

[celest vine]

4 dipshits stuck 8 krak to the host at once

Thing died like a fucking dog

[rain badger]

that good? damn

[celest vine]

Shout stagger held it still enough

Then each grenade would stagger it for the follow up to be easy

[copper barn]

8 krak grenades will definitely do the job lol.

[gritty dock]

I have a question.
I have this Bolter (I have never used a Bolter before):
Pinning Fire +5% Power for every Enemy you Stagger. Stacks 5 times.
Gloryhunter +16% Toughness on Elite Kill.
+8% Elite
+20% Unarmoured

What's best to change about it?
And is the Surgical Blessing so good that you have to have it.
Do I shoot rather quickly with this weapon and rarely aim for a long time?

[slate sleet]

ah yes the ogien przygwazdzajacy

[inner olive]

Bolter is pretty damn good regardless of blessings imo. If I had to make a change it would be to the unarmored damage

Maybe swap it to carapace so taking down crushers will be a dream

That’s what I’ve got on mine at least and it seems to do the job

If it can pull of this clutch, it’s more than enough lmfao

Humble brag

[slate sleet]

is this impressive to you

[gritty dock]

Thx. So Gloryhunter (+16% Toughness on Elite Kill) could be kept?
Change the perks to something like: Carapace, Flak, Maniacs or Unyielding.
And have first weapon with a score of 550?

[rain badger]

[inner olive]

Let me have this

It felt cool

[rain badger]

bolter needs the same buff that plasma did. Full damage to all parts of an enemy. A freaking fin stabilized gryo rocket does half damage to a dregs arm? GTFO

[inner olive]

Personally I think so

Bolter really isn’t a crowd control weapon so focusing on unarmored would be less efficient

[rain badger]

It used to be before pinning fire nerf. Rush of crushers and ragers? hold M1 lmao

[inner olive]

Real

When you and the psyker are in sync and he stunlocks the bulwark wave for you to wipe out with a bolter

[rain badger]

Pinning fire let you get over the extremity damage reduction. Also the aim reset is wonky, used to love it, but I can't deal with hit reg and that issue

[tiny summit]

ADS bolter reset is cancer

[rain badger]

someone gets it lmao

[tiny summit]

I like helbore iron sights. Bolter ads is straight ass

[rain badger]

honestly, they should do an ergonomic pass on weapons. Bolter, brautos, autoguns need some usability pass. (ADS, recoil, reload, ect)

[inner olive]

Why are we aiming with the bolter

[rain badger]

weapon customization mod, put a sight on anything you want. Autoguns feel great with kantreal sights, ect

[rain badger]

[inner olive]

Lmao

https://tenor.com/view/machine-gun-danny-mcbride-gif-21118588

[tiny summit]

Autogun recoil sway is not satisfying. Feels less jerky like recoil and more like the doctor moving his finger back and forth in front of me

[inner olive]

Damn he’s aiming wrong gif nvm

[tiny summit]

Sometimes I don't want post mag dump clarity because I want to shoot 1 specific heretic

[rain badger]

autogun initial recoil and sustained recoil is pretty aids

[inner olive]

When that sniper is pissing you off

I get it

[tiny summit]

Fuck the sniper. I cast mag dump in that general direction

[rain badger]

single shot agripa autogun is good when you chain HS's and nuke everything

[inner olive]

Ogryn with Achlys

[tiny summit]

Twin stubbers. Accuracy by volume

Don't have a good achlys, so I use gorgon

[static timber]

plasma gun delete button

mmmmWHAphoooom

[rain badger]

[near igloo]

im not sure what i should be taking/not taking in this build yet
plasma + tactical axe
im thinking swap keystone with reload but i'd need 3 points for that not 2 so i'd prolly need to yeet something

[rain badger]

my brother in christ, what is that

you dont need krak nades if you have plasma, you want shredder for stun and crowd control

[static timber]

agreed

[near igloo]

i guess

i generally prefer having more anti armor options over anti horde stuff because i just can take my axe out and start swinging
tho on second thought i prolly should grab shredders

[slate sleet]

🚽

[inner olive]

Isn’t running the ammo aura

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-rdj-avengers-the-avengers-tony-stark-gif-9503213

[static timber]

lmao people in here are brutal

[rain badger]

This is what I run with 🅱️lasma

[slate sleet]

are you serious

[static timber]

is he for real right now

[rain badger]

lmao

[inner olive]

Is he on god

[rain badger]

no cap

[static timber]

no capping??? NONE????

[near igloo]

not a fan of the ranged ability tbh

[static timber]

jfc

[near igloo]

and i dont think i need even more damage on top of plasma

[rain badger]

love me toughness, simple as

[near igloo]

yeah

that shit comes in clutch

[static timber]

really good for group overall tbh

[near igloo]

when the rest of the team loses coherency and proceeds to eat shit

[rain badger]

I prefer toughness regen and damage resist on toughness

[static timber]

need to earn my penances using the ranged ability still but never want to drop the buffed shout

[near igloo]

and all 3 curios have + toughness

[rain badger]

competitve urge is "free realestate"

[abstract helm]

Question y'all, I have a base 20% crit chance. Should I swap 10% Elite Damage:

• 5% crit chance
• 10% crit damge
• not swap it at all

[static timber]

getting the +30% toughness regen on all 3 curios changed my life

waited way too long to get those sorted

[slate sleet]

are you serious

[rain badger]

Dont know combat blades, so I can't help ya

[inner olive]

You may not like it but this is perfection

[static timber]

are you serious

[barren cave]

the hell is that and how does it work

[rain badger]

letting allies see outlined enemies to take away from your refresh.

[barren cave]

you have trench fighter drill, it works

[tiny summit]

Enhanced Target Priority enjoyer

[rain badger]

isnt VoC and then pure melee with plasma good?

[umbral scaffold]

When’s new enemy coming

[tiny summit]

I cant justify 15 stacks vs free stacks anytime

[rain badger]

cause of the weapon switch bonus damage?

[umbral scaffold]

When’s the new Melee enemy coming out :)….

[inner olive]

I go far right on purple because being able to swap to my chainsword and horde clear when shit hits the fan is 10/10

https://tenor.com/view/40k-commissar-chainsword-gif-19397214

Me fr

[wary galleon]

ahh finally

ammo penance complete

what a drag

[near sable]

me fr

[rain badger]

is the ammo one the one where you have to hit all shots and end with no ammo?

i did it like a year ago, what a fucking trash penance

[stuck gorge]

90% accuracy and end with no ammo

[rain badger]

real OG's remember 100% accuracy

I cheesed it anyways, cause it really is a dumb fuck penance

[inner olive]

The only penance I haven’t been able to complete is the grenade one. Hitting 5 enemies without it bouncing.

[stuck gorge]

start mission
miss one shot
leave
repeat

[inner olive]

331.5 hours in still can’t get it

[rain badger]

practice in psykarium, find a group of enemies and throw it higher than you think, easy

[tiny summit]

Some starts of a map are nice to try. It's how I got mine. Started " hmm fuck it, let's try"

[stuck gorge]

Find a horde 30m away look up til you only see their heads tap m1 don’t aim for short fuse and hope

[near igloo]

i got it like second try on chasm logistratum

you gotta throw like 50 degrees

[rain badger]

goddamn it, too true. or 100% accuracy, one round disappears to hit reg

[near igloo]

and just click

[abstract helm]

You'd think they'd never bounce given how the grenades in this game seem to be made of lead.

[near igloo]

no mouse hold because that prolongs the fuse

[stuck gorge]

Or you shot a enemy 1 too many times and lose it

[inner olive]

This is a monke question but does the penance require the grenade to like hit each one before exploding, or does it just have to hit the ground and kill 5?

[near igloo]

not hit the ground

[rain badger]

Not hit the ground and kill 5 or whatever, think of it as an air burst grenade

[stuck gorge]

Can’t hit an enemy before exploding either cuz that counts as bouncing

[inner olive]

That’s fucking stupid

I wish I knew that before

Lmao

[rain badger]

MLG hit marker intensifies

its really not that hard lmao

[inner olive]

I know it isn’t hard that’s why it frustrates me

[rain badger]

you can do it, I believe in you

[junior needle]

Haven't used the gun in forever, wouldn't know the boss shredder setup apart from that it abused the marksman node (not keystone) and used deadly accurate/HH.

[livid grove]

fellas how do you stop a revolver addiction

[gusty bison]

Ya play smth else. :P

[crude ermine]

Can't

It's a hole

Deep one too

[livid grove]

I try but it keeps pulling me back

[near igloo]

try plasma maybe?

[gusty bison]

Just keep playing smth else

[livid grove]

I did, not my style i think

[near igloo]

how so?
what do you like about revolvers then?

[livid grove]

quick swap, mobile, head go pop

[gusty bison]

Plasma is two of those

Tbh

Its just a learning curve for every gun

[livid grove]

plasma ammo and heat management too complicated for my revolver brain

[near igloo]

just left click, dont bother right clicking

you cant overload and explode by left clicking

[livid grove]

, ill give it a shot

[gusty bison]

Laspistol also fills all 3 of these

[near igloo]

shredders feel kinda bad
i dont think i've seen a horde yet where i had the thought "damn, i wish i could throw down some mediocore damage on these pox walkers"

[untold mulch]

The damage/Bleed is secondary to me

The blast and CC it does is just

[south garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/he-doesnt-know-real-man-gif-24166599

[untold mulch]

When situation goes FUBAR

two at the feet

now solve the FUBAR

[gusty bison]

I mean. Thats cos ur shooting hordes :P

Hordes in general sponge hits from every gun

[crude fiber]

My braced auto with double damage blessings begs to differ

Niche joke gun aside

[near igloo]

personally i prefer voice of command as my fubar button

[tiny summit]

Helbore addiction

[slow spade]

Shredders clearly need to do 600 base damage UwU

[crude fiber]

Wheres my shredder auto plasma

[slow spade]

Dead, along with the Shredder autopistol's happiness

[livid grove]

krak feels worse when people be poppin elites before the krak even leaves your hands

[torpid sundial]

ikr

thats why I rarely take krak

Like oh damn I have a grenade that can one shot a crusher and your teammate zooms past you and destroys 10 maulers and 20 crushers as fast as they can breathe

[crude fiber]

Krak is only good in ogryn clipping inside each other groups or mixed hoards with crushers using adds as meat shields

[slow spade]

Simply kill your teammates then

No more lost value

[torpid sundial]

imagine if friendly fire was a thing like in vermintide

[slow spade]

Barrels

[torpid sundial]

okay yeah thats a good way

[stone adder]

I have killed teammates like that before

[crude fiber]

They might add it eventually lol, Maybe with new tier 6 or 7 difficulty

[torpid sundial]

zealot's grenades burn allies as well

:^)

[crude fiber]

Many ogryns will be lost that day

[crude ermine]

I ate my teammate

Tasty

[crude fiber]

Ogryn nuke team wipe lol

[slow spade]

Beast of Nurgle animation on a Psyker UwU

[stone adder]

How did they taste

Did you use seasoning

[crude fiber]

Please keep all vore rp to dms lol

[crude ermine]

Kinda like beef

Ogryns at least

[slow spade]

Don't need to rp I already play Darktide

[livid grove]

basically a team flashbang

cuz i have no idea what is going on when there are a bajillion nades going off in all corners lol

[slow spade]

"Skill check" -> throws an Ogryn frag bomb

[crude fiber]

"Taste this" "you've failed the emperor"

[umbral scaffold]

anyone got a screenshot of the veteran winter cosmetics?

[cunning holly]

Yes, like it is a thing in every effing fps game that is competitive. Like every little twerp with an issue that will just kill you cause you too "politically correct" not to do that first. Imagine ALL THE FUN there would be in DT

If they add it, it should only be an otion for private servers

[serene sage]

Implement friendly fire so I can gun down the Ogryn in front

Please and thank you

[gusty bison]

The ogryn with the achyles heavy stubber:

Probably not the best idea cos glugger ogryns will be the greatest source of FF

[slow spade]

Just for you, 200% Friendly Fire modifier 💪

[shadow aurora]

Flamers

[cunning holly]

I don't need FF to kill you, just stay for a moment near that barrel.

[eternal sable]

i did it

[cunning holly]

Had an ogryn team wipe everyone with it but himself, and then just die

[slow spade]

Most team oriented Zealot

[cunning holly]

I have a response to tha

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AChhjp3V3ww?feature=share

It wasn me though...

[cunning holly]

Also I hate that part of the map cause wiped out by ogryn damn stomp when trying to hit it with a hammer

Its good they blocked it off for the karnaks, wonder how meny people would have been sent flying there with the plasma kick

[coarse ridge]

dump stat for the boltgun?

[cunning holly]

Who needs mobility when you slow af anyways

[coarse ridge]

word

[abstract helm]

Does Unarmored and Maniac damage stack?

Since Ragers/Mutants are technically unarmored

the dreg Ragers, that is

[gusty bison]

They are not unarmoured

Thry are maniac

Maniac is not Unarmoured

[abstract helm]

AH okay

I didn't realise their armor type was Maniac

I just double-checked myself on Gameslantern

[static timber]

are you serious

[celest vine]

Theres a dead rat in this attic

[serene sage]

Hmm free food

[wanton dawn]

Ya monster

[fiery thorn]

plasma - should I try to go behind beast of nurgle and shot or just try to shoot it's head

[rain badger]

Yellow sack on its back is the weak spot dawg

[fiery thorn]

more often then not I found me getting into trouble trying to go behind, and doing not many shots

[wanton dawn]

depend: if weakened go for both. If unweakened you prefer to hit the back

The "tongue" takes 1x dmg multiplier but it is unreliable to hit

[fiery thorn]

noob here - what's weaken?

[wanton dawn]

If you don't know, then go for the back

[topaz pebble]

Monstrous specialist bosses spawn in with weakened in parenthesis

[wanton dawn]

This is a modifier for maelstrom

In general though, you prefer to hit the back. It is just that sometimes, you don't have the option too unless you wait 30s or something

[fiery thorn]

that was the original question, I got harassed non stop (by other mob I mean) and with the beast going after different member, I ended up chasing the tail and not doing many shots..

[pine snow]

wouldn't it be really funny if plasma worked like b0re

[wanton dawn]

Well, me I tried to go for melee but it requires a bit of experience

[topaz pebble]

Beast is such an obnoxious fight

[crude ermine]

Boring too

[topaz pebble]

Yeah

[wanton dawn]

You can go for the tongue if you don't have other option

[topaz pebble]

Been a year and it's still able to animation cancel its grab

Like, fuck me for doing the right thing i guess

[fiery thorn]

most monster are boring - I feel like I can never get behind a BoN, while I can't ever get a good shoot at a spawn's head while staring at its ass

[pine snow]

i usually get lucky enough to have it chasing a teammate and that gives me an opportunity to dump plasma into its back

also can someone confrm it can only eat you if it's vomited on you

[fiery thorn]

that happen quite often but it's only showing me its side not back

[pine snow]

no room to move around?

[fiery thorn]

there is, but due to its huge size by the time I reach its back it already turned to another member

[grand lark]

Yea

Or if you stepped in the goop

[pine snow]

cool thx

honestly i feel like killing a bon with psyker is the easiest out of all of them (havent tried oggy so idk)

[fiery thorn]

also vs monsters - I suppose when I got aggro I should switch to melee and try to block/dodge, instead of trying for shoot/stagger?

[pine snow]

wym by monsters

[crude ermine]

Fucking hate the goop

[topaz pebble]

Nah, just maul the monster

[fiery thorn]

my ogryn hated its auto tail sweep

[crude ermine]

The only monstrosity I tolerate is plogryn

[pine snow]

psyker is just venting shriek at it and go crazy with brainburst

[topaz pebble]

The plogryn you can duel

[fiery thorn]

wym stands for?

[topaz pebble]

The chaos spawn you treat as a turn based fighting game

[pine snow]

what do you mean

[crude ermine]

Fleshbags are definitely in the middle

[fiery thorn]

plague ogryn and spawn

[pine snow]

ah ok

i still just blast em honestly

[umbral scaffold]

Ye it can only grab you if you have the Nurgle vomit debuff

[pine snow]

melee works sometimes but i dont try with cspawn bc ive been knocked off the map so much trying

[umbral scaffold]

So don't get puked on or walk in their slime

[crude ermine]

Fleshbags try to scare you into thinking their attacks are scary but that wares off fast

[umbral scaffold]

Chaos Spawn flinging isn't that scary tbh

[topaz pebble]

Im just tired of spawns grabbing me from miles away

[crude ermine]

But I'm not a fan of getting flung out of the map if I do unfortunately get grabbed

[umbral scaffold]

Plague Ogryn is the premiere map tosser though

[pine snow]

idk with me particularly it feels like i get sent 30 miles

[crude ermine]

Like out of bounds

[topaz pebble]

Thing's got the most disjointed grab i've ever seen

[umbral scaffold]

Can't tell you how many times plague Ogryn fucking yolo tosses someone out.the map

[topaz pebble]

Like, Im talking old gief SPD range lmao

[umbral scaffold]

Ye their grab is pretty sick tbh

[serene sage]

Plague Ogryn is probably the easiest because of how often you cms stagger him

[umbral scaffold]

Although tbf it also does like
0 damage

[umbral scaffold]

He also has the easiest attack pattern you can loop over and over

[pine snow]

i feel like biggest threat with those types is getting knocked off the map

[umbral scaffold]

You can kite him like the vt2 rat ogre and he will gladly agree to do it