as a gacha gamer I'd say I'm deep in the Noots
#veteran-class
placid portal
strange sparrow
I once dream of making funny shock trooper Hellbore spam gun
placid portal
Understandable but I like the Irons over mk1 & 2
strange sparrow
Later learn that 10% suck cuz shocktroper xd
bitter turtle
U can think of it as reducing the amount of time I need to hold surgical for a guaranteed crit
strange sparrow
bitter turtle
Like I said
spring rose
Cringeeeee you're not the God's strongest gambler bro that's why u ain't gettin that tier 4z
bitter turtle
I play helbore as a melee wep
spring rose
torn root
U can think of it as reducing the amount of time I need to hold surgical for a g...
by .6 seconds XD
bitter turtle
Ya
placid portal
I play helbore as a melee wep
Fun shit
bitter turtle
That matters lul
torn root
actually if you think about it that way i guess it aint bad ngl
placid portal
.6 seconds is the time you take to charge on first full charge shot iirc unless mk2
torn root
i don't like crit still
strange sparrow
.6 seconds is the time you take to charge on first full charge shot iirc unless ...
Surgical feel useless on Hellbore Mk2 because you onslaught faster than Crit chance
torn root
that talent increases the apm requirement for what ever build you are using
strange sparrow
Nice 10% thou
torn root
i like dumb gun fun
bitter turtle
Surgical feel useless on Hellbore Mk2 because you onslaught faster than Crit cha...
I do surgical no respite
placid portal
No Respite on Mk2 is hella neat
bitter turtle
Don't need onslaught when I don't shoot more than occasionally anyway
placid portal
you stagger and followup is instant 20% Dmg+
bitter turtle
Too busy stabbing
bitter turtle
Yeah
placid portal
fantastic
Too bad limbsplitter don't work on bayonets now
At least they work on Brutal Momentum
bitter turtle
Sadge
placid portal
right?
bitter turtle
Ya
placid portal
oh thank da empra
bitter turtle
Unless they patch it before I get home ๐
placid portal
They making new patch?
bitter turtle
Idk
bitter turtle
I've been gone since December
And will be gone for another 10 days
So no dt
Only shitposting
torn root
ur not missing much
placid portal
ye
muted knot
At least they work on Brutal Momentum
Wait what, I thought none of the melee weapons perks work on bayonets now ?
bitter turtle
I play dt to vent my stress
bitter turtle
Wait what, I thought none of the melee weapons perks work on bayonets now ?
Bm still works
muted knot
Whaaaat
torn root
I play dt to vent my stress
arams are better for this
placid portal
Wait what, I thought none of the melee weapons perks work on bayonets now ?
Bruhmentom still working is godscend
bitter turtle
League is the opposite of reducing stress
torn root
not aram
bitter turtle
No thanks
torn root
aram is the only game mode that doesnt
placid portal
bitter turtle
Than reinstall league
torn root
eeew tf2
bitter turtle
I reinstalled league only once in the past 10 yrs
It was to try out gwen bc I like her
torn root
gwen best girl
wanton dawn
Alright, I think I got the hang of the columnus now
wanton dawn
I have my 1m dmg game already
muted knot
The fuck you say about tf2
bitter turtle
Also
torn root
The fuck you say about tf2
eew
bitter turtle
as a gacha gamer I'd say I'm deep in the Noots
What do you play
And if you say fgo
Then I lost all respect for you
merry gale
lost all respect at Gacha gamer tbh
placid portal
Aaknights
placid portal
I miss Brave Frontier
torn root
its OG matter of fact FGO was the gatcha that got them popular in the west hemi
placid portal
despite the super power creep
torn root
.>
wanton dawn
Imagine not taking tactical awareness and using exe stance 
torn root
before genshin
wanton dawn
And marksman focus
torn root
before doken
placid portal
bitter turtle
So it's irrelevant
torn root
except NA dumps a majority of the money that gatcha get right behind china
placid portal
is the 7.5% Finesse bonus on marksmen stacks additive or multiplicitive from your weapon base finesse modifier?
bitter turtle
U can look up their earnings if you don't believe
bitter turtle
torn root
that's genshin
bitter turtle
For ak
bitter turtle
Ya and us has the attention span of a flea so nobody cares about pandering to them
placid portal
Genshin Ratings tanked alot, it's now ~2.0 or lower iirc
torn root
Genshin was a fucking wild fire in the US
torn root
ngl Japan is barely ahead lmao
bitter turtle
Js
Genshin is already abnormal in terms of us audience
Most games the gap is even bigger
US/global server is usually irrelevant
torn root
idk the dollar conversion rate be crazy for over seas companies
bitter turtle
We never get
thick rose
when you open hadron why the fuck do you have to click the only and only option entreat
bitter turtle
The fancy extra rolls for hitting app store milestone ๐
torn root
when you open hadron why the fuck do you have to click the only and only option ...
fatshark is slow that's why
thick rose
holy shit xbox go fuck yourself start screen
torn root
they don't think
bitter turtle
Also many games just don't even get localized
thick rose
press space to be annoyed for the 1000th time
torn root
no one in that studio had a haead on their shoulders
bitter turtle
Hbr global when
torn root
just fluff
torn root
Also many games just don't even get localized
well thats true in a lot of countries
many games dont get localized
torn root
that's fine but i can sit here and accept that US servers don't matter
its literally one of the servers bringing in bread
bitter turtle
Maybe don't matter is not the best way to put it
upbeat tulip
who is the best veteran in this chat
upbeat tulip
im gonna knock him out
thick rose
my name is veteran...
upbeat tulip
is it you, you anime lover
thick rose
so that is powerful
upbeat tulip
lets do this, i know i can finish this guy
bitter turtle
I even have a certificate
minor plinth
is that you, john wayne
bitter turtle
All of them?
upbeat tulip
now my plan is to finish the veterans
bitter turtle
They'll never block my shots again?
upbeat tulip
lets go
thick rose
lets do a vet only auric and decide
upbeat tulip
im gonna take you to the deep ocean
torn root
im gonna take you to the deep ocean
ayo we getting romantic?
thick rose
I never saved anything for the swim back ๐ฎ
thick rose
[bot]
bitter turtle
@placid portal
cosmic sun
I have a terrible idea.
bitter turtle
Pick a squad for me
cosmic sun
ES Combat Knife 6 Autopistol
bitter turtle
bitter turtle
ES Combat Knife 6 Autopistol
That's not that terrible
torn root
ARKNIGHTS?!?!?!
cosmic sun
The Emperor's lightest recon
torn root
IMMA NEED TO SEE THE PICKS
placid portal
Always Random Choice, never preselected
torn root
fuck it, far right
placid portal
wait what three?
torn root
hmm guard
placid portal
Despite how ppl hate Quartz she's ok in IS 3
bitter turtle
Despite how ppl hate Quartz she's ok in IS 3
U were too late
That sounds fun though
placid portal
Gotta get the % regen team
bitter turtle
I have her and windchimes levelled
placid portal
lol nice
torn root
DOBERMAN?!?!?!
placid portal
bitter turtle
DOBERMAN?!?!?!
She's temp
But just so u know
I have literally everyone e2 in the game lul
Except a handful like SA I left at level 1 bc fuck him
placid portal
zamn
placid portal
THE STUN
THE STUN IS REAL
bitter turtle
You take a screenshot
umbral scaffold
plasma gun is op
bitter turtle
Put it into paint
bitter turtle
Then use the brush tool
And paint green over your name
@placid portal quartz is unironically doing kinda well
Lol
Tbh I didn't believe you at first
I'm gonna m3 her now
I died on 4 though
placid portal
Quartz has alot of breakpoints against the early mobs you fight
placid portal
One of the only few lass that 1 shots basic mobs
bitter turtle
Sussuro actually keeps her healthy at least lol
thick rose
plasma gun could kill every enemy on the screen with a single click, for 1 ammo, and i still wouldnt use it
I dont understand how anyone enjoys that thing
placid portal
If you hate bulwarks you can delete them with plasma 100 times over
also Blow yourself up for funsies
thick rose
they should make uncahrged detonate again, for balance
upbeat tulip
they should add a mini nuke
placid portal
*they kinda did
thick rose
like ogryn grenade>>>>KANG
thick rose
then its agreed, plasma will now detonate like ogryn grenade en heimer somebody let fatshark know we have decided
bitter turtle
they should make uncahrged detonate again, for balance
Would be too strong
bitter turtle
Just look at the power here
It's only appropriate to have this much power with the requisite setup
Imagine this ON DEMAND
strange sparrow
Veteran Chat on their way to nerf their own class
placid portal
and also potentially fucking up the team
torn root
Veteran Chat on their way to nerf their own class
when its finally ass only the good players will make it work ๐
celest ermine
Are there some do's or don'ts for playing with Focus Target! that one should know about?
torn root
Are there some do's or don'ts for playing with Focus Target! that one should kno...
don't wait for it to get to max stacks --- pretty much it
thick rose
do target everything
barren cave
pick up redirect fire
thick rose
target a fucking vacuum on the off chance you target something by accident
its like having a micro transaction cosmetic for your tag
GOLD BABY
celest ermine
raw linden
I hate you for having 2 on it
torn needle
Cursing myself for posting it
torn root
I pray for you lmao, better luck next time
zealous wyvern
i feel you should not have upgraded that to transcendant
torn needle
I wanted to maximum cope
zealous wyvern
You right that 132 light damage hits all the bps
what do you mean by that
torn root
My sword is good enough I just want a better one'
not sure what talents you are running but try the psychanium real quick --- see if you can 2 tap crushers
torn needle
what do you mean by that
I'm just joking
zealous wyvern
if you agreed with my assessment, why would you then display an argument against my stance
oh
good
torn needle
not sure what talents you are running but try the psychanium real quick --- see...
I can with my current sword yes
zealous wyvern
you know then that you need a new sword
torn root
k waste the resources
torn needle
jaunty sphinx
new to shovels, melk cooking or nah?
torn root
can't stop you
torn needle
I got nothing else to craft really so I'm kinda just stockpiling
bitter turtle
new to shovels, melk cooking or nah?
It's decent but first target is low
torn root
somehow i doubt that there is nothing else for you to craft
jaunty sphinx
yeahhhh
bitter turtle
I'd grab the limbsplitter Iv
torn root
lmao
bitter turtle
Anyway
jaunty sphinx
thats what I was thinkin yea
bitter turtle
Limbsplitter is one of the good shovel blessings
So you can slap it on something later if you like it
torn needle
somehow i doubt that there is nothing else for you to craft
I got everything I want for my builds atm is what I mean
bitter turtle
You're looking for uncanny, limbsplitter, decimator, thrust, skullcrusher
torn needle
Uncanny my beloved
bitter turtle
All or nothing and take a swing are combed together too
torn root
uncanny + thrust is the goal imo
torn root
only important blessing on the new shovel is thrust
so they are all not as important as that
bitter turtle
But the spike already penetrates well
jaunty sphinx
You're looking for uncanny, limbsplitter, decimator, thrust, skullcrusher
thanks a ton
torn root
yes because heavy attacking the crowd doesnt matter?
thrust isnt just for the spike into crushers
bitter turtle
I spam lights personally
torn root
you still get value from the heavy sweeps
bitter turtle
Anyway the one I think might be overrated for the foldings is uncanny just cause the spike seems to penentrate carapace well even on the first hit before you stack it
bitter turtle
I wanted to try limb to see if it let's me do a folded light one-shot on ragers
torn root
just to help clean up waves when there are also specials
bitter turtle
Idk I think you'd get more value out of deci or SC in that case
torn root
because the shovel already takes care of crushers you can focus on sweeping waves
bitter turtle
Those are the more horde clear oriented blessings
torn root
deci imma be honest is ass because there is a timer on it
a lot can be done in between the activations
bitter turtle
Uncanny doesn't work for actually clearing out the hordes to begin with
torn root
not calling it bad
torn root
maulers, armoure ragers
bitter turtle
So I wouldn't exactly defend it either for that
torn root
it works on both flak and carapace
bitter turtle
Not a fan of needing to get it rolling
torn root
yes
bitter turtle
Maulers ig
bitter turtle
That's when I shoot instead lol
Or nade
If it's a pack
I don't melee rager packs to begin with
torn root
either way uncanny, helps clear waves of specials and allows you to cc them
that's what imma leave it at
don't limit yourself to not being able to melee rager packs
bitter turtle
I don't feel that it makes it actually safe enough to engage rager packs personally where I'd melee over shoot or nade
bitter turtle
Ya
torn root
still shoot when cramped?
bitter turtle
I have good aim
torn root
even if you will get hit in the back?
torn root
eeeh
bitter turtle
That's what nade is for
Y do you think I bring shredder lol
And this is for v7
If I'm using iag ya
I'm just gonna spray2win
Lol
bitter turtle
Personally I've never found it worth to engage large number of ragers in melee
torn root
free rending
bitter turtle
It's not faster
Its not safer
If I fuck up it's really bad
All I do is save some bullets
Which in the current state of the game
Is meaningless
I barely pick up ammo bc lamo surv anyway
Melee is just chaff clearing and picking out lone dudes for me at this point imo
Unless it's a wep specialist psword build
Then u just left click to win
torn root
Unless it's a wep specialist psword build
this isnt safer than shooting
doesnt that go against what you were just saying?
just shoot
muted knot
Why Powersword on wep spec ?
bitter turtle
Well that build is made for melee
torn root
Why Powersword on wep spec ?
also this
weapons specialist doesnt change anything for PSword
lmao
bitter turtle
Why Powersword on wep spec ?
25 speed sword is dumb good
I used wep special sword for twins
Idk imo it's gud lol
torn root
''excessive''
jaunty sphinx
plus it gives the power sword actual movement
bitter turtle
No such thing as too much speed imo
U can always use more mobility to your advantage
muted knot
But what do you gain with attackspeed on PS ?
zealous wyvern
faster attacks
torn root
swing to kill faster when you are already killing fast
bitter turtle
Oh my bad
torn root
idk i dont like that one chief
zealous wyvern
fair
muted knot
I'm not even talking against you here I'm just wondering, the buff seems way better on different melees
zealous wyvern
do you ever just feel like throwing away your uniform and embracing the gifts of the gods of chaos?
bitter turtle
I'm not even talking against you here I'm just wondering, the buff seems way bet...
It's good on almost all melees
torn root
the ones that might actually need them
bitter turtle
No melee doesn't want more speed lol
tropic imp
Weapon specialist isnt bad on psword
bitter turtle
Except maybe knife
tropic imp
But its wasted potential
torn root
Except maybe knife
no if psword needs it knife 100% needs it
more damage faster swings
.>
mad excessive
bitter turtle
Knife is often taken more as a mobility tool
If it made me run faster actually yes
I would
But I don't use knife for that much killing in the builds I use it
That's why I singled it out lol
Also why it doesn't fit many guns
torn root
idk when i hear PSword with Weapon Specialist to me its like Plasma gun with Onslaught
you dont NEED to do it
but you COULD
bitter turtle
Look
U should actually try it imo
I'm not the only one I this channel that ran it before since we got keystones
Lol
torn root
im gunna swing faster and its not gunna change much lmao
bitter turtle
Js
You saying
It already kills fast
Why kill faster
U got to admit
That logic doesn't make sense
torn root
My argument is why not focus elsewhere actually?
its excessive lmao
it does make sense
bitter turtle
Some guns already fit wep specialist and benefit
torn root
if you are using PSword you can legit put points somewhere else
bitter turtle
Revolver sword is what I run on the build
torn root
that would probably benefit more
bitter turtle
I use sword more than revolver
torn root
what other build you got using that talent lemme see
bitter turtle
How is it for revolver lol
Ya sure
For twins I swapped off to plasma for the build over revolver
I've done v7 for the build too
Ciag as well
Didn't like ciag as much but it works
Literally sword does over half the work on this build so you can throw any gun on it lol
Like idk how you can reason the keystone is only for revolver when all I really get out of it is 1 bullet reload lol
I already run surg deadshot so the crit isn't even that important
torn root
Like idk how you can reason the keystone is only for revolver when all I really ...
yeah not the crit
not at all
torn root
not the main part or reason to take the node
torn root
not for the 1 thing that feeds the revolver what it so desperatly wants
torn root
hmm kind of a wast on other guns
probably why you didnt like it on columnus
pretty sure it feels like ass on columnus
bitter turtle
Nah
It was alright
Less a keystone problem unironically
But more that I don't pair ciag with sword anymore
torn root
so badly need the columnus to have a 1 bullet at 100% crit ๐
bitter turtle
It feels like they step on each other toes
torn root
so badly need the columnus to have a 1 bullet at 100% crit ๐
maybe this one was too much
bitter turtle
Kuro I know u really want wepnspecialist to be bad on anything that isn't revolver
But ppl here literally have run that too lol
Good players
It's not that bad
torn root
Kuro I know u really want wepnspecialist to be bad on anything that isn't revolv...
actually no
bitter turtle
Ya wep specialist is kinda meh on autos
Obv that's why I preferred it with v7 plasma and volver
But it's dumb to say that's the only reason u run it lol
torn root
its only reaon to run it
and the only reason ppl run focus target is cause they are bad ๐
bitter turtle
U realize in these builds u are using sword over half the time
torn root
ie me
torn root
nah
bitter turtle
W/e you know I don't really care to convince u that much lol
It's fine
Just play what you want
bitter turtle
I unironically don't care that much tbh lol
torn root
not gunna say like I CANT BELIEVE YOU ARE WASTING SKILL POINTS or anything like that
bitter turtle
I don't even like psword anymore
tiny summit
Shovel and caxe supremacy
bitter turtle
It's why I use shovel with v7 even though it's objectively dumb of me
Forces me to take kraks
shadow aurora
I like claw sword. The parry makes ragers a non threat
tiny summit
Csword too puny hits. Fishing for parries like a dex build in Dark Souls
torn root
Csword too puny hits. Fishing for parries like a dex build in Dark Souls
puny?!
the disrespect
on cadia your head would be rolling right now
shadow aurora
Its damage output without alt attack is pretty lack luster
At least from my experience
torn root
alt attack?
torn root
oh on the claw sword
jaunty sphinx
catachan sword
shadow aurora
bitter turtle
That is the catachan sword
bitter turtle
The confusion here is csword being chain sword or claw/catachan sword
That's why you're lost
bitter turtle
Chain sword sucks
torn needle
Chord
torn root
Chain sword sucks
watch yer filthy mouth
torn root
oh you're trolling
shadow aurora
CADIA STANDS
Youll fall on that statement. Right at the last moment. Just like cadia
torn root
the ani lock is the only bad part of it
jaunty sphinx
I use chainsword when I feel like turning my brain off. in other words when I play vet
torn root
I don't use small versions of big things
using a PSword which is a smaller version of a bigger weapon
jaunty sphinx
id use the chainsword some more but I dont like plasma anymore so I swapped to autogun and I need something that hits carapace with more than a wet fart
torn root
id use the chainsword some more but I dont like plasma anymore so I swapped to a...
all the autoguns do well into carapace tho
not using onslaught?
jaunty sphinx
No
jaunty sphinx
OH
torn root
^
bitter turtle
Brittleness on hit
jaunty sphinx
I'm sorry I just woke up
torn root
the TALENT meant for those guns
hybrid token
"the ideal team comp doesnt exi-"
torn root
i hate that there is a blessing and talent that shares names
hybrid token
VETERAN SQUAD GO BRRRRRRR
torn root
kind of dumb
jaunty sphinx
Apologies I didn't get much sleep last night
south garnet
at least there aren't two talents with the exact same name anymore
warped agate
Apologies I didn't get much sleep last night
As someone who chronically under sleeps, sleep is important.
south garnet
small victory for FS
torn root
at least there aren't two talents with the exact same name anymore
but there is 2 different blessings with the same description
because using brains isnt a thing with FatShark
south garnet
tiny summit
As someone who chronically under sleeps, sleep is important.
If sleep is so important whyd they have to make things fun?
warped agate
If sleep is so important whyd they have to make things fun?
Because we have to be "responsible"
brisk oxide
do you guys find it hard to give up Rev It Up on chainswords? i like it too much as a gap closing/utility thing
currently going power sword mode but thinking of switching to something with more mobility
tiny summit
do you guys find it hard to give up Rev It Up on chainswords? i like it too much...
I like rev it up but I don't sweat about it
torn needle
currently going power sword mode but thinking of switching to something with mor...
The vet one day dreams of being able to use dueling sword
brisk oxide
would be nice
slate sleet
"currently going power sword mode"
torn needle
Power sword is dopamine farm though
brisk oxide
"currently going power sword mode"
i don't get it
brisk oxide
Power sword is dopamine farm though
yeah it seems pretty good so far
tiny summit
Power sword is dopamine farm though
Idk caxes with BM lopping heads is very satisfying
slender turtle
Idk caxes with BM lopping heads is very satisfying
And as someone I met once said: it's like having a power sword but all the time
torn needle
Idk caxes with BM lopping heads is very satisfying
Power sword with bm lopping heads is also very satisfying
They go whirrr
tiny summit
You need to energize. Caxes just work
slate sleet
rashaad bm axe is the lowest iq weapon in the game for sure
torn needle
How many trash enemies can you kill in a swing?
slate sleet
if you just want to shoot stuff and need a melee wep that removes chaff with m1 its the best by far
you kill like 5
tiny summit
More than an unenergized ps
torn needle
Well yeah unenergized is sadly crap
torn needle
Power sword is really really strong and really fun but it has the carpal tunnel debuff
There's no point in swinging it uncharged so you just have to charge like a hundred times a game
slender turtle
How many trash enemies can you kill in a swing?
Roughly 3 or 4. Don't quote me on that.
tiny summit
Oh I love ps6. It cleans up crushers like nothing else. But I do get annoyed it needs setup to even be worthwhile
vernal harbor
currently going power sword mode but thinking of switching to something with mor...
everyones power sword mode
torn needle
Ps6 chews through chaff like nothing else I swear
vernal harbor
well... i do have a knife...
torn needle
It's like visual asmr cutting down 8 or more trash enemies in one light
brisk oxide
no human can tap the right trigger that many times in an hour and have fun
vernal harbor
tiny summit
Double bleed sadge
slate sleet
me? i only use psword and plasma so i can trivialize the already easy max difficulty and win since that is all that matters
slender turtle
Albeit. I will respect knife on veteran than zealot
slate sleet
no i have never had fun in my life why do you ask
brisk oxide
me? i only use psword and plasma so i can trivialize the already easy max diffic...
currently what i'm doing
torn needle
me? i only use psword and plasma so i can trivialize the already easy max diffic...
I find ps6 and plasma super fun 
vernal harbor
Double bleed sadge
triple
slate sleet
yeah i think its really fun to have 0 challenge too
slender turtle
why bleed when they can... die?
rare tartan
guys , is there any build for lasguns ? :3
tiny summit
guys , is there any build for lasguns ? :3
Yea plenty
vernal harbor
niso the only one here whos got the guts to say the truth
slender turtle
guys , is there any build for lasguns ? :3
Just don't use mk XII.
torn needle
Plasma headshots feel super satisfying
vernal harbor
he just shit on my xii
tiny summit
Also which lasguns? Infantry or helbore?
vernal harbor
who do you think you are
brisk oxide
the non XII lasguns have too much recoil
hybrid token
i meeeeeeean,
slate sleet
why use a lasgun when you can use revolver/col5/plasma?
slender turtle
The man with a faster lasgun
brisk oxide
just makes them bad compared to columnus imo
tiny summit
Just don't use mk XII.
Overreacting. The mk XII is still good, the others just got buffed
rare tartan
i meeeeeeean,
๐บ
brisk oxide
i have a perfectly rolled 1A lasgun on my psyker and it sucks ass compared to the columnus
tiny summit
i meeeeeeean,
Get rid of those perks
vernal harbor
The XII is for players who can aim
hybrid token
eh its pretty good for an emperors gift
slate sleet
The XII is for players who can aim
bold of you to assume there are any in here
vernal harbor
me.
slate sleet
col5 go brrrr lol
slender turtle
Overreacting. The mk XII is still good, the others just got buffed
As much as I really really want to use the xii. The slow RoF is too much for me
vernal harbor
slate sleet
where did you find this picture of me?
vernal harbor
you cant critcize me tho
hybrid token
agripina brauto supremacy
vernal harbor
i run survival and grenade regen the people are on my side
slender turtle
you cant critcize me tho
knife user
brisk oxide
imo the RoF is too high on the others to actually recenter the reticle over a weakspot between shots since the recoil pattern is so crazy
they fly all over the place
torn needle
i run survival and grenade regen the people are on my side
And then the one rando picks up a grim
tiny summit
imo the RoF is too high on the others to actually recenter the reticle over a we...
Be a gamer then
rare tartan
I'm of the opinion that you can forgo onslaught on a mk2
perks was bad, had to reroll them ๐ฆ
rare tartan
I'm of the opinion that you can forgo onslaught on a mk2
but i got this now , and its neat !
vernal harbor
brisk oxide
Be a gamer then
if there was like, an upside to it i might try but it's just a worse columnus
tiny summit
Ia recoil isn't bad at all. Mg4 recoil is only bad if you are firing as fast as possible but still completely manageable
slate sleet
"its just worse compared to this absolutely busted gun that will get buried alive with nerfs next patch"
incredible takes here
slender turtle
if there was like, an upside to it i might try but it's just a worse columnus
A way worse columns. It needs a buff cause the devs kicked the shit into nearly unusable
tiny summit
but i got this now , and its neat !
Pour one out for recons. Ye lived for 1 patch
brisk oxide
Ia recoil isn't bad at all. Mg4 recoil is only bad if you are firing as fast as ...
if you're shooting for center mass it's totally doable, but it doesn't hit well otherwise
rare tartan
Pour one out for recons. Ye lived for 1 patch
it still have some life in it , does really good dmg
brisk oxide
i don't want to work that hard for marginal damage
tiny summit
if there was like, an upside to it i might try but it's just a worse columnus
Ammo efficiency and range good. 1-3 tapping ragers and mutants feels good
slate sleet
recons are all perfectly fine
brisk oxide
Ammo efficiency and range good. 1-3 tapping ragers and mutants feels good
those are both true
tiny summit
if you're shooting for center mass it's totally doable, but it doesn't hit well ...
Can't relate. Be a gamer
brisk oxide
Can't relate. Be a gamer
yeah i just have no interest in mastering it considering it's not even meta
tiny summit
Sharing my Exe MF Helbore build. I swear I'm helping with Born Leader
slate sleet
charismatic kinda poop
slender turtle
recons are all perfectly fine
tiny summit
recons are all perfectly fine
I would say perfectly fine with their viability to clear missions but you are choosing a recon over other weapons and relatively...they aren't fine.
tiny summit
charismatic kinda poop
Need that extra radius so I make sure my teammates thank me for that 3 toughness I give them off that poxwalker headshot
slate sleet
this might surprise you but veteran can make every weapon good
so you can use whatever you like the look of / sound of / feel of
slender turtle
This might surprise you but if you are good enough, you can make any gun look good, doesnt mean that it is good
slate sleet
weapon balance is in a good place right now outside of meta brainrot shit like plasma revolver col5
tiny summit
I can do my aurics with a recon. The columnus iag would've done better
slate sleet
those 3 will get floored with nerfs soon
low lava
Nerfed like the power sword did
serene sage
those 3 will get floored with nerfs soon
You sweet summer child
slender turtle
slate sleet
ok cool you just compared a recon to a col iag
tiny summit
I agree. Most stuff being viable with some overtuned standouts is better than have absolute garbage weapons everywhere
slate sleet
i envy people who can wheelchair auric every day using busted weapons and not get bored out of their mind
slender turtle
Guns that require the most meta blessings and perks to be standard shouldnt even be sold by brunts
tiny summit
Recons got their range modifiers to shit. Their interaction with shock trooper is shit. I completely understand they are 2 different weapons that can have 2 different niches. As it stands a combination of variables makes recons look like dogwater compared to your options
slender turtle
I do wonder if recon is good on a gunker build. With infernus blessing
slate sleet
recons are fine if you compare them to other actually balanced weapons
slate sleet
anything is good on gunker
brisk oxide
I do wonder if recon is good on a gunker build. With infernus blessing
it's probably good because of the ROF
tiny summit
I tried. It was kinda miserable in comparison to a laspistol
sleek minnow
What blessings and earnings should I get on the mk13 chain sword ?
serene sage
Open Reddit
Read first thread that seems semi interesting
Close Reddit
teal quail
What blessings and earnings should I get on the mk13 chain sword ?
If you use the one of the pins it shows you what is best on any weapon
tiny summit
recons are fine if you compare them to other actually balanced weapons
I still wouldn't consider recons fine in comparison to the Infantry Lasguns.
torn needle
i envy people who can wheelchair auric every day using busted weapons and not ge...
I mean as a coop only game it kinda ties in to power fantasy over competitive nature
teal quail
>>> Open Reddit
Read first thread that seems semi interesting
Close Reddit
Vet is good at what they do but are boring I agree
tiny summit
>>> Open Reddit
Read first thread that seems semi interesting
Close Reddit
Helbores are good. Reddit crying ignored
ivory rock
How important is thermal res on these? Feel like I might try to salvage this from brunty
tiny summit
How important is thermal res on these? Feel like I might try to salvage this fro...
Semi importance. You'll have to vent more often
slate sleet
the answer is literally in the picture
serene sage
Vet is good at what they do but are boring I agree
It's a disingenuous post
If it's phrased as a personal opinion sure
But this is more like a whine post parading as a design issue
tiny summit
But yea. Also lower resistance, means faster heat gain for crit chance
tiny summit
Vet is good at what they do but are boring I agree
I think clicking heads with a helbore staying in exe for a minute is fun
ivory rock
But yea. Also lower resistance, means faster heat gain for crit chance
So fuggit, make this one a crit gun
tiny summit
So fuggit, make this one a crit gun
If you don't have a plasma already built it's not a terrible one
vivid bolt
>>> Open Reddit
Read first thread that seems semi interesting
Close Reddit
Brain rot
thick rose
iag like brrrr
torn root
iag like brrrr
dis be it
timid otter
I feel like i keep dying to bullshit
torn root
shout more
timid otter
Yesterday i died while jumping downwards to a crusher.
The crusher hit me at a location i wasnt even at.
terse idol
Vet is good at what they do but are boring I agree
Just play weapon spec
timid otter
torn root
>>> Open Reddit
Read first thread that seems semi interesting
Close Reddit
this is a bot post
lmao
because you don't have the creativity doesn't mean there are only 2 vet builds
melee or plasma my ass
slender turtle
The crusher hit me at a location i wasnt even at.
Thats just what i call a darktide moment
devout atlas
I do wonder if recon is good on a gunker build. With infernus blessing
Laspistol does better.
Sadly.
Recon is nigh unusable atm it's hilariously weak.
frank basin
vet class talk : O
devout atlas
but there will be better options
torn root
then its an exaggeration...
torn root
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I don't know about that
I mean you can make it work
tiny summit
Yea. Recon can work. I definitely didn't have fun running it on gunker
torn root
le inconsitance
umbral scaffold
this is a bot post
Yeah it's definitely a bot post
devout atlas
jfc man this isn't a courtroom ๐ญ
umbral scaffold
The fact they downplay vet strength while upping other classes
Is the definition of grass is greener on the other side
vivid bolt
jfc man this isn't a courtroom ๐ญ
Dw people here be nitpicky as fuck
devout atlas
Vet is alr just not good at twins lol
serene sage
jfc man this isn't a courtroom ๐ญ
Not yet
devout atlas
๐ฐ
vivid bolt
Deadass had someone try coming at me for giving someone two options for knife awhile back
timid otter
I think vet is the weakest class rm.
umbral scaffold
"I can play like a zealot or a psyker"
How bout you just play like a vet and never die
timid otter
But its alright
vivid bolt
And was saying I was evil for giving two options
timid otter
Vet is still very much playable
torn root
I think vet is the weakest class rm.
put down the copium
serene sage
I think vet is the weakest class rm.
vivid bolt
"I can play like a zealot or a psyker"
How bout you just play like a vet and nev...
You mean always dieโฆ right? /j
umbral scaffold
You mean always dieโฆ right? /j
Reddit agrees tbf-
vivid bolt
I think vet is the weakest class rm.
gotta be bait
devout atlas
I think vet is the weakest class rm.
Yk what, I kinda agree but it's not the weakest by a longshot imho
torn root
You mean always dieโฆ right? /j
oy
torn root
dont lie to ppl
timid otter
Nah psyker, ogryn have higher dps.
torn root
vet is brain dead survival
umbral scaffold
I wish the lasguns didnโt feel so underpowered.
devout atlas
DPS isn't everything but you're not wrong
umbral scaffold
Where was that post in zealot chat where a vet was complaining about bad teammates
And then he played like ass
With a meme weapon
devout atlas
I wish the lasguns didnโt feel so underpowered.
No joke I actually main MG4 ๐ญ
sharp ember
we are the HAMMER OF THE EMPEROR
vivid bolt
Reddit agrees tbf-
Tbh in lower difficulties I see vets with 3 wounds extra like huhโฆ
umbral scaffold
That was great
timid otter
Zealot has more versatility in the type of gameplay it can engage in compared to vet (twins, speedruns)
ivory rock
This seems like a solid buy, can prob fix it up a lil. Mk 2 is okay right?
serene sage
Reddit be like Plasma gun is perfectly balanced because it forgives my skill issues in Damnation.
vivid bolt
Nah psyker, ogryn have higher dps.
Ogryn is overturned yes but a vet can shit out damage
devout atlas
I wish the lasguns didnโt feel so underpowered.
Lasguns are actually fine it's just the visual recoil is absolutely terrible
vivid bolt
Just stop with the bait ๐
serene sage
I should make an astroturfing post about the Plasma
vivid bolt
Can we get one day of no bait posts
umbral scaffold
Tbh in lower difficulties I see vets with 3 wounds extra like huhโฆ
There was a reddit post of someone who was complaining about bad damnation spawns
And he had 3 wounds, didn't use his med stim on a 1 wound ally, and tried to 1v1 a rager with a recon Las
Peak wheelchair
timid otter
Real reason to take vet is for the passive support it brings.
serene sage
And put a shit ton of back handed compliments on it
vivid bolt
There was a reddit post of someone who was complaining about bad damnation spawn...
Peak lobotomy
timid otter
Free ammo is strong.
umbral scaffold
True LMAO
torn root
Nah psyker, ogryn have higher dps.
if you jump in front of an ogryn like how they do to you you will beat them on the scoreboard dw
timid otter
So is shout
umbral scaffold
I play vet because being a guardsman is cool. Plus Astartes overrated
umbral scaffold
Peak lobotomy
Bro had like 4 different answers since he was a stealth vet
devout atlas
Vet can both be the weakest of the 4 while also being good and not needing many changes
vivid bolt
Aight another to the block list lmao
devout atlas
Speed aura just sucks ass and uhhhhh buff some guns
Recons are poo poo pee pee
also revert Shocktrooper changes
vivid bolt
Vet quite literally has some of the most diversity out of the classes like
umbral scaffold
Recons are awful
But they're funny
sharp ember
This seems like a solid buy, can prob fix it up a lil. Mk 2 is okay right?
mk2 is the weakest mark but dumdum 4 is a good find. Mk2 has better armor damage modifiers than mk6 but this is easily negated by running Onslaught on the mk6, which has much higher dps as a result
vivid bolt
By no means is vet weak
torn root
There was a reddit post of someone who was complaining about bad damnation spawn...
imgine even taking +1 wound on vet
iron marten
never forget the time recons were allowed to shine briefly...
torn root
permanent 2 wounds in auric
umbral scaffold
Recons are poo poo pee pee
I remember a time when they were op
umbral scaffold
permanent 2 wounds in auric
2 wounds on everything
I don't make builds expecting to get downed
timid otter
By no means is vet weak
One class always has to be the worst of the 4
devout atlas
I remember a time when they were op
Honestly even back then they were A tier at best ๐ญ
umbral scaffold
timid otter
Its just simply how it is.
devout atlas
That said Psyker is fucking boringgggg
ivory rock
devout atlas
Nah Psyker is insane by the very fact of Voidstrike and Creeping Flames existing
umbral scaffold
One class always has to be the worst of the 4
Vet isn't even that weak when ammo aura + voc+ plasma guns exist tbh
Vraks with reload speed perk equals one man army
torn root
By no means is vet weak
dis is wat im on
ivory rock
As someone who plays every class: they're all good in their own ways xd
torn root
no clue why ppl cant use their 2 braincells to figure it out
serene sage
Nah Psyker is insane by the very fact of Voidstrike and Creeping Flames existing
Unironically the only Psykers who do good in my games are Trauma
umbral scaffold
It might be the least mobile at times
But it's the class with peak skirmishing and never goes dry
umbral scaffold
dis is wat im on
Stop shitting on the Guard they got it worse than any other imperial unit
devout atlas
Unironically the only Psykers who do good in my games are Trauma
Trauma is insane too. Imho Trauma + Voidstrike are the best staves although thats a cold take since it's a pretty agreed upon consensus.
umbral scaffold
Trauma is insane too. Imho Trauma + Voidstrike are the best staves although that...
Pretty much
torn root
Stop shitting on the Guard they got it worse than any other imperial unit
bro vet is the condom class
timid otter
Psyker has the abillty to just passively churn out damage with perilous combust, venting shriek.
devout atlas
Issue is Psyker is boring because spamming trauma m2 or void m2 is the most stale gameplay loop ever
iron marten
the moment I see a Psyker with Trauma + Knife, I know they're gonna carry the match lmao
timid otter
Its really hard to do โpoorlyโ as psyker.
tiny summit
Vet is my favorite as long as they have unlimited helbore usage
torn root
helmet head ass
umbral scaffold
bro vet is the condom class
If you wanna shit on something that deserves shitting on do the Ultramarines
umbral scaffold
Psyker has the abillty to just passively churn out damage with perilous combust,...
You're also insanely squishy
And your staff has a trade off anyway
umbral scaffold
helmet head ass
Helmets are cool
Not to say squishy is bad
Why am I feeding the troll
But vets just having VoC is big longevity and durability
torn root
squishy is bad
devout atlas
Vet is my favorite as long as they have unlimited helbore usage
Legit my favorite build, while definitely not ultra braindead meta is MG4 with Infernus/Deadly Accurate and VoC. I go Auric games without picking up ammo and 1k+ kills consistently lmao
torn root
so i yell at you to make you not so squishy
sharp ember
bro vet is the condom class
they protect you?
umbral scaffold
And I like playing psyker too
torn root
they protect you?
yis
umbral scaffold
They're just the most "lol random pub" moment
Although dueling sword is a sick nearly op weapon imo
Plasma gun I absolutely hate
torn needle
Although dueling sword is a sick nearly op weapon imo
Ds4 my beloved
serene sage
Plasma gun I absolutely hate
Nerf that shit
torn root
Put on PSword + Columnus and TELL me you feel weak ----- quick way to find a bad player
devout atlas
I'd play Psyker more if Ogryn wasn't 20x more fun. Slab shield brutal momentum goes brrrrrrrrrrr
serene sage
OP as fuck
umbral scaffold
DS4
Horde clears with lights and shoves
Kills maulers and carapace with heavies
Peak weapon
sacred spindle
am I right in thinking that pinning fire works well for mag dumping into big things? I can't recall if the bolter staggers bosses. It's either that or level 1 glory hunter / shattering impact ๐
torn needle
Psyker is the most squishy baseline but put on kinetic deflection and ds4 and you can tank any boss forever with no risk
serene sage
am I right in thinking that pinning fire works well for mag dumping into big thi...
Good gun, and yes
iron marten
man, the moment I saw 100 cleave on the patch notes for plasma gun, I was already laughing
tiny summit
My Ogryn has the least amount of money and mats invested into because his shit just works
ivory rock
am I right in thinking that pinning fire works well for mag dumping into big thi...
I like pinning fire for ammo dumpin so yur
devout atlas
Psyker is the most squishy baseline but put on kinetic deflection and ds4 and yo...
Not to mention they're damn near bulletproof with their toughness regen and DR%
ivory rock
Vet chat: at war
Meanwhile Ogryn chat:
umbral scaffold
Psyker is the most squishy baseline but put on kinetic deflection and ds4 and yo...
Tbf you can do that without kinetic deflection either-
The dodge on Mk4 is insane
tiny summit
am I right in thinking that pinning fire works well for mag dumping into big thi...
Bolter mag dumping is good and based
umbral scaffold
Only boss legit hard to dodge tank is demonhost tbh
sacred spindle
+25 maniac / +25 flak then?
torn needle
Tbf you can do that without kinetic deflection either-
You can but kinetic deflection is just extremely strong
devout atlas
My Ogryn has the least amount of money and mats invested into because his shit j...
Ogryn is my main and ngl even though I have godrolls for every single weapon on my Ogryn I've spent less than any other class. I've literally spent more dockets and plasteel trying to get a good trauma force for my Psyker than all of my Ogryn godrolls combined.
sharp ember
am I right in thinking that pinning fire works well for mag dumping into big thi...
bolter will not stagger bosses alone, but PF is still the best blessing. Hitting any group of smaller enemies racks up stacks easily
iron marten
doesn't the mk4 duelling sword already have insane block efficiency built in
umbral scaffold
You can but kinetic deflection is just extremely strong
True, ye I agree
torn root
Only boss legit hard to dodge tank is demonhost tbh
and you can still do it with PSword btw
lmao
serene sage
A pure ammo dump Boltgun would be Shattering Impact + Pinning Fire.
BUT highly recommend dump less and ADS more. I think Surgical Pinning Fire is good balance
torn needle
Like you could give psyker a literal plastic fork and if they have kinetic deflection they will tank better than any class
umbral scaffold
doesn't the mk4 duelling sword already have insane block efficiency built in
It's got ok block
But the dodging ability is pretty insane since it's basically light weapon
Like 5 dodges with good distance
4* (5 with a perk)
devout atlas
doesn't the mk4 duelling sword already have insane block efficiency built in
its got 2 stamina and yes good block, but KD makes it go from servicable to godlike
sacred spindle
this is on an ADS build so surgical is staying
serene sage
+25 maniac / +25 flak then?
Maniac
Flak
Elite
Unarmored
Carapace
Unyielding
tiny summit
A pure ammo dump Boltgun would be Shattering Impact + Pinning Fire.
BUT highly r...
No ads. More mag dumping. Don't think about post mag dumping clarity
serene sage
In that order
umbral scaffold
Just put a stamina trinket or two like I do and it's hard to die in melee tbh
sacred spindle
thanks for the advice
devout atlas
I just run toughness toughness stamina on my psyker, when I play psyker, which is once every 4 weeks
torn needle
Just put a stamina trinket or two like I do and it's hard to die in melee tbh
Big true
torn root
bolter = pump and dump dopamine rush
serene sage
~~but I'm insane since I have +9 stamina on my psyker so~~
You are
umbral scaffold
Chaos will not stop me from shoving
sacred spindle
in PUGs I can't guarantee my team won't hoover up all the ammo so can't mag dump all time every time
serene sage
bolter = pump and dump dopamine rush
I get a rush when I kill 10+ elites in one mag tbh
torn root
I get a rush when I kill 10+ elites in one mag tbh
nah man