#veteran-class

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slow garden
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Not so much veteran

bitter turtle
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They're fine just not in the meta as anti horde guns

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Same reason why you don't see flamers much now

slow garden
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Neither clears horde better than just using melee

median merlin
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they nerfed flamers badly is why

slow garden
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So I wouldn't even classify them as 'horde clear guns' personally

bitter turtle
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Agri is revolver with extra steps tho kinda yeah

slow garden
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If a gun cant kill specials its also just worthless

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Imo

bitter turtle
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Kant does kill specials though

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Fire bullet actually deals with bulwark more easily than most guns lol

median merlin
slow garden
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Light exception going to the flamer staff and, well, the flamer. Where a Zealot can tool a special killer into their melee slot instead.

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Yes! Flamers have a niche

median merlin
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i built bardin to be a blocker/ flamecannon horde clear. in THAT game it works wonders.

slow garden
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I personally still cant stand the shotguns in comparison to a revolver

swift ingot
slow garden
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Kantrael can -On paper- kill specials, but in practice the fire damage ticks way too slow imo

median merlin
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sexy

slow garden
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Yeah you go to the psykanium and pop fire shot on a mixed horde, it does

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dies

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But in actual gameplay you get ambushed

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The angle is bad

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Any number of things make it not applicable

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The special shell takes too long to load

median merlin
slow garden
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Just get your melee weapon

median merlin
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it's just so fast

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nothing compares

slow garden
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Fast, hits like a pissed off hippo

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Cant compare esp for Zealot, agreed

median merlin
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especially since i play damnation

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it's needed

bitter turtle
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I think they're fine enough in their niche

slow garden
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Same thing on auric damnation

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I want buffs personally

bitter turtle
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Not everyone wants to play a melee for hordes

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See knife

slow garden
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You can knife a horde

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Happens all the time

bitter turtle
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You can it just sucks at it

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Objectively

untold mulch
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WHERE IS THE HELLGUN

median merlin
untold mulch
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I NEED IT

bitter turtle
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Cleave is pathetic on it

slow garden
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Fair, idk why you'd really bring knife myself

bitter turtle
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For fun

median merlin
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single target backstab

bitter turtle
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I run knife with graia

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It's fun

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Not everything needs to be plasma tier

slow garden
bitter turtle
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I think most guns are usable enough and have a niche

slow garden
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I would like things to be closer at least

bitter turtle
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Some need a buff because they have no niche besides sucking

slow garden
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Lot of the guns feel pointless to me

bitter turtle
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See: recon

untold mulch
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I was thinking of running shovel

And then I rememebred the grind to just get the perks and blessings I want and my will to do it leaves

slow garden
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Lack of range, versatility, incompatible with many gameplay situations, etc

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Doesn't clear horde fast enough

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That goes for both melee and ranged weaps

bitter turtle
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I play v7 exclusively in auric mael

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By.that logic It's pointless and I should use revolver and wep specialist lol

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A lot of things are not top but at least have a niche that makes them fun and excel even if it's in a narrow way

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I think that's fine

slow garden
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Do what your comfy with, I'm talking purely my own methods by which I pick my weapons.

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I'm not gonna judge anyone for doing something else

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Is video game, enjoy thyself comrade

bitter turtle
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The only guns that need fixing are ones that have literally no value over any other gun

median merlin
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^that

bitter turtle
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Like recon vs iag

slow garden
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staaares at shotguns

median merlin
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why bring a bolter when i can use a revolver, for example

bitter turtle
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Recon is just iag with bad maniac damage and worse ammo efficiency right now

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They shoot nearly.the same way

slow garden
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Big magsize and your using exe stance

bitter turtle
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And even if you hate recoil

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Graia has very controllable recoil

slow garden
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At least thats the only build I bring my boltor on

untold mulch
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The recoil is barely an issue

slow garden
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Otherwise I bring plasma

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And usually I only bring that build to vent purge or lights out

bitter turtle
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Idk shotguns still have an anti horde niche

swift ingot
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I’ve been using the agri iag a lot on my zealot as of late, I really enjoy it

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bitter turtle
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Not many guns can be run with knife

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Comfortably at least

slow garden
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Nice AG

untold mulch
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until they unfuck it

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but I assume that was asking too much for a team that took 2 months to change a + into a -

slow garden
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I prefer to pick my weapons based off the amount of problems they can solve and at the ranges they can solve them

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Knife has barely ever been on my radar as such

fossil basalt
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Mmmm 25% backstab bonus

bitter turtle
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Knife has the niche of being ducking fun as hell

slow garden
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Slow horde clear, and struggles against mixed horde. Powersword goes brrr.

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I turn on slish slash problem gone boss

bitter turtle
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Might as well say there's no reason to use anything except boringsword lol

fossil basalt
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With Lacerate it mops hordes lol

bitter turtle
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Alt left click x3 forever

swift ingot
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Chainsword for life

bitter turtle
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I can't stand that wep for more than a few games at a time

swift ingot
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Power sword is icky

untold mulch
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PSword is annoying to use KEKW_ogryn

slow garden
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Lil bit

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I also like devilclaw a lot

bitter turtle
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Like yes

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Knfie needs u to play 3x as sweaty for the same or less reward as the guy mindlessly spamming lights on psword

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But that's why it's fun partly lol

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The mobility is heckin fun

slow garden
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Thats me, I'm the guy spamming lights on psword

fossil basalt
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Fuckit we stab

slow garden
stark saddle
untold flame
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My carpal tunnel cant take prolonged knife usage

swift ingot
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Chainsword just scratches a part of my brain that power sword doesn’t

stark saddle
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over 12 hours a day

untold flame
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I get my mobility fix with shovel instead

stark saddle
bitter turtle
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I like shovel too

stark saddle
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Auto swing is a requirement for prolonged knife usage

lofty lintel
# stark saddle

You have more hours in darktide alone than i do in total on steam

fossil basalt
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Sadly that new knife has better combos for CC than lightspam

lofty lintel
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Yeah

bitter turtle
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I would try new knife more but fuck rolling knife again

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I had to grind so much for it

lofty lintel
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Its aight

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I like mk3 better

bitter turtle
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Ya I'm not fond of the new moveset

stark saddle
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Your life is too complete

bitter turtle
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But I didn't experiment much

stark saddle
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Spend less time socializing and doing productive things

bitter turtle
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But I also don't wanna bother lol

stark saddle
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and more time on steam

lofty lintel
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Mk6 is just wanting knife to do a job it wasnt made for

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I would rather run a folding shovel before i use the mk6

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Its just my opinion though some people like the new knife better

lofty lintel
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I spend a lot of time on my pc but to be fair a lot of games i play arent on steam

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I have 3300 hours on steam games in total

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Since 2011

fossil basalt
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I like it because sprinting into a special to sideswipe their carotid artery is funsies

fiery thorn
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Bit of googling mentioned a thing called “camo expert” which de aggro a vet when he’s not moving. That was changed/removed?

I’d imagine it’s much easier to do “on overwatch” with that skill…

bitter turtle
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Thats the old skills ye

fossil basalt
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It's a node for Infiltrate now

bitter turtle
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It's a node but it doesn't trigger on not moving

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Just a duration buff after infil wears off

fiery thorn
swift ingot
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God Camo expert vets were definitely something else I’ll tell ya

lofty lintel
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Yeah

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Lmao

fossil basalt
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Still, it's where all the threat reduction is

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Those were the days

median merlin
lofty lintel
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Damn

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I never got into tf2

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I have around 200 hours

fiery thorn
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I’m just pissed how that damn penance is designed

lofty lintel
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Honestly my hours are pretty evenly scattered

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Except for a few games ive extensively played

fiery thorn
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It’s like - have they forgotten the penance when they revamp the skill …

lofty lintel
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MHW iceborne i got 1k hours

fossil basalt
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TBH camo expert didn't really help with it too much since it still behaved like it does now:
If you get too separated from your team you'll still get slapped

Best way to do it now is stacking toughness with Iron Will

lofty lintel
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Thats the most hours ive put into a game honestly

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Everything else is pretty even

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Darktide is up there i guess

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With 500 hours

swift ingot
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Darktide is my most played game on steam, 748 hours. I haven’t had my pc for very long, at least 2 years

lofty lintel
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400 on GTFO, 320 on deep rock galactic

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Another 400 on monster hunter rise

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300 on new world

swift ingot
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My second most played Is BG3 at around 120 hours and third is Rouge Trader at 80 hours

lofty lintel
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Just on steam though

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On epic games i have borderlands 2 and 3 at over 800 hours together

bitter turtle
lofty lintel
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Those are the games that really clicked for me

bitter turtle
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My year review lol

lofty lintel
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Then i just have around 30-40 hours on story gamds

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Games*

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Metro series which are my favorite

pallid dew
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Anything new in cosmetic store?

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I haven't played in a while

lofty lintel
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The valhallan stuff

fossil basalt
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Darktide crept into 50% of my playtime

pallid dew
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valhallan?

swift ingot
lofty lintel
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Oh well 90 hours on remnant 2

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That game was lit

pallid dew
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Metro acoustic ost is beaut

lofty lintel
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The dlc came out not too long ago but im not too interested

lofty lintel
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Metro last lights OST specifically

swift ingot
pallid dew
lofty lintel
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Yeah true

fossil basalt
lofty lintel
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Souls games, metal gears etc

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Helldivers a lot on my xbox 360

pallid dew
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I haven't played the new content every since october ish

swift ingot
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I got the best ending my first time playing through exodus and I cried like a bitch

pallid dew
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did i miss out on anything worth redownloading?

lofty lintel
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I am very and i mean very excited for helldivers 2

lofty lintel
pallid dew
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wasn't bothered doing the new story as well

lofty lintel
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New boss fight

pallid dew
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worth?

lofty lintel
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Its cool and gives an insignia

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Imo yes

pallid dew
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was there any limited time events?

lofty lintel
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This one

swift ingot
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It’s a literal raid boss

pallid dew
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Damn

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Honest

lofty lintel
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Gotta catch up

pallid dew
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I play like one game

lofty lintel
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I could never

pallid dew
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and I just get exhausted playing it

lofty lintel
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Burnout bro

fossil basalt
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Gotta get that rotation going haha

pallid dew
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Idk just lackluster or something for me idk what it is

lofty lintel
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The only games that didnt burn me out after a month of playing it were the ones i mentioned before

pallid dew
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alright

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I'll redownload it tomorrow

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see how it goes

lofty lintel
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I get burned out very fast

pallid dew
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Is part one still up?

lofty lintel
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Part 2

pallid dew
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Was part one important?

lofty lintel
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Darktide im afraid to admit on this discord but im burnt out of it

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The raid was refreshing but after hardmode its just sitting there

swift ingot
# lofty lintel Burnout bro

I binged darktide for weeks straight after part 2 dropped, was hella burnt out. Then I bought Rouge Trader and started playing that

lofty lintel
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Yeha

torn root
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lmao

pallid dew
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I can't be bothered leveling up the other classes

lofty lintel
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Yeah

pallid dew
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I'm just gonna stick to veteran lol

lofty lintel
pallid dew
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I also need to get back into rogue trader

lofty lintel
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GTFO is one of a kind, very challenging

pallid dew
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yeah

fossil basalt
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TBR if you were bored of Darktide gameplay loop in October, you won't find much truly new stuff now

torn root
swift ingot
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Chapter 3 of Rouge Trader in a nutshell

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lofty lintel
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I would say i dont understand how its not super popular but i do

torn root
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need a lot of communication

pallid dew
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GTFO is a good game

lofty lintel
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Its extremely hard

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And very team reliant

torn root
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i solo'd some of the missions

lofty lintel
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Thats the only pro/con

pallid dew
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it kinda died out at the start because multiplayer was a bit bad if I recall

torn root
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but those bots are terrible

lofty lintel
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Double edged sword depending on player

torn root
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lmao

lofty lintel
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Yeah

vernal harbor
torn root
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im waiting for DRG to get their season model changed

vernal harbor
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i am now caught up with over 40+ hours of vet chat

pallid dew
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and a lot of people want to complete GTFO missions on their first try

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so when they can't

torn root
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but they are rowrking on a new game atm

pallid dew
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they just give up

lofty lintel
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DRG's new season was okay.

fossil basalt
lofty lintel
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There hasnt been any new content for 1.5 years

torn root
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^

pallid dew
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I also need to finish baldur's gate 3

untold mulch
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4 shovels

torn root
untold mulch
pallid dew
lofty lintel
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I hope they add new weapons/maps for season 5

vernal harbor
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the last run

lofty lintel
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Oh im talking about DRG

pallid dew
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plus new guns too

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oh

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What's DRG?

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Deep rock galactic?

torn root
lofty lintel
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Gtfo just released their last content update, theyre working on Den of Wolves now

barren cave
fossil basalt
swift ingot
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DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?!?!

lofty lintel
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They shifted all the focus to that game which is fine, GTFO was left as a very complete game with a lot of stuff to do

pallid dew
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I want hot shot rifles start giving us special forces weapons

untold mulch
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I consider the last weapon drop pretty "shit"

pallid dew
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If we're already so OP in the game by killing beast of nurgle etc

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we should get like hot shots and all that

pallid dew
barren cave
swift ingot
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MUSHROOM

untold mulch
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WE'RE RICH

lofty lintel
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Drg and darktide pretty much share the same playerbase lmao

untold mulch
lofty lintel
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Well i think its mostly darktide to drg than drg to darktide

fossil basalt
pallid dew
barren cave
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and the same mission selection system, which drg does kinda better

torn root
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Did you know that leagally speaking, Rocking is more socially acceptable than Stoning? EH? EEEEEEH?!

swift ingot
pallid dew
fossil basalt
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Throne if Darktide had the same map system as DRG

torn root
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tyrranid boss when?

pallid dew
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Once they start pumping out more firepower

barren cave
pallid dew
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That's when I won't get burnt out anymore

swift ingot
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I’m still waiting on my god damn Melta Gun

pallid dew
untold mulch
fossil basalt
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Welllll, you might, farming up all those blessings

pallid dew
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Add new class, Sororitas and then I'll spend all my money on darktide stocks

fossil basalt
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Too close to Zealot

compact oak
barren cave
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plz no sororitas

swift ingot
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Yeah

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Pls no

pallid dew
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Add in sub classes

fossil basalt
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They're there

pallid dew
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vermintide type sub classes

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not this talent tree

fossil basalt
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They specifically said they won't do that

swift ingot
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No point

pallid dew
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Noo

untold mulch
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Hotshot with Outcast Engineer mechanics 🤤

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I need it

pallid dew
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I will never get my mechanicus sub class

barren cave
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have they said anything about paid expansions

fossil basalt
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No

untold mulch
vernal harbor
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i would be standing on the arms of my chair is disbelief if they just did the subclasses SPACE MARINE!! SORORITAS!!! TECH-PRIEST ASSASSIN!!!

compact oak
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Since the new system just came out a couple months ago I dont see anything new added or made for a good while

pallid dew
untold mulch
barren cave
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as long as they add melta guns

untold mulch
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The typical corpo talk that Fatshark constantly does of

barren cave
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right

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no roadmap either

untold mulch
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No, but we write it in a way to say yes later

vernal harbor
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no corpo

torn root
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what would it play like tho?

swift ingot
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This icon for the Melta has been in the files for the longest time

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untold mulch
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Since beta KEKW_ogryn

torn root
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do we get a robot buddy?

swift ingot
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Yeah

untold mulch
versed merlin
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what is the difference between graia and agrip iags?

fossil basalt
pallid dew
untold mulch
barren cave
pallid dew
compact oak
swift ingot
vernal harbor
barren cave
pallid dew
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give this to a non cyberpunk player and it's over

vernal harbor
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thems just normal words

untold mulch
pallid dew
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thanks choom

vernal harbor
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oh sorry im literally v from nightcity i grew up talking like this

swift ingot
# swift ingot

A 14th century peasant would disintegrate upon hearing this

torn root
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bro you know i never noticed how much 1 dude deoes in damnation

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i can see how ppl get clapped for playing reckless

lofty lintel
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yeah

torn root
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i've never just sat there and let one wail on me

lofty lintel
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but you get used to it it ends up becoming muscle memory

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dodging and just avoiding dmg in general

fossil basalt
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All those days in VT2 where one slap is actually pain

thick rose
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are maniacs specialists?

untold mulch
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Just got instant killed from max health by two poxbursters staregryn

fossil basalt
torn root
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lmao

golden nacelle
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some specialists are maniacs

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but not all maniacs are specialists

torn root
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Fucking 2 days ago I loaded into a game in progress, as soon as I start playing I get yoinked by a Chaose Spawn, he munches on me and 2 Poxbursters end my misery before he even gets a 2nd bite

swift ingot
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Dreg ragers for instance are maniac but they are classified as elites

rapid hedge
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man they really need to fix dogs jumping thru bosses and shit @_@

torn root
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coolest 10 seconds of gameplay i've had lmao

fossil basalt
pallid dew
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Also what's this talk about movement glitch in darktide?

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I remember seeing it a while back

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you move a certain angle and you don't use stamina

torn root
rapid hedge
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its like i perfectly survived a mutant + mauler horde in the middle of a plague ogryn fight and then 1 stupid ass mutt jumps thru the ogryns belly and mauls me tf o_e

golden nacelle
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mutants are maniacs, and also specialists

pallid dew
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Maybe I need take my medicine perchance

fossil basalt
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If it WAS there, no doubt something like that has been patched out.

There's a way you can make it so you get stamina back while sliding to maintain sprint levels of movement speed but that sounds like something else

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Me, being unable to swap off knife and both stamina delay nodes

torn root
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tools at our disposal

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Specialists are all the enemies that have sound queues on spawn, aside from snipers

fossil basalt
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lol sniper ain't special

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Where's my sniper huh

low oar
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In the fog

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Prepare

fossil basalt
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With the rate I use smoke nades, it's out here somewhere lemme just stop hitting my toes on shi

low oar
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Smoke grenades don't block snipers LoS

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They specifically have a tag of "see through walls" which overrides all LoS checks

fossil basalt
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Virgin smoke grenade vs chad preysense goggles

low oar
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Yeah so if you wonder why a sniper will just occasionally stand behind a wall just perfectly aiming at you, it's because they don't have LoS checks

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But somehow have like a 3 second reaction time to us just moving to the side

wary galleon
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average braced autogun enjoyer

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kind mantle
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how do i get this veteran outfit?

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is it paid or an unlock

wary galleon
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that specific one is not avaliavble

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you can get aproxmiate though

kind mantle
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like it was never released or was limited time

wary galleon
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yes

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bruh

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like i said

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not avalivable

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BRUH

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xD

hearty furnace
kind mantle
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whats the closest thing to that then

wary galleon
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why are you even asking if you already know the answer?

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just to be rude about it

kind mantle
hearty furnace
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I think there is one without mask portion, just helmet.

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Thats closest unfortunately

rancid shale
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What are y'all's preferred blessings for the shovels?

kind mantle
midnight totem
true umbra
wary galleon
untold mulch
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Man a BoN just threw me three stories down

rancid shale
# true umbra

I gotthe version of the helmet on the right with an ocular imant instead of a gas mask from the aquila shop

kind mantle
true umbra
wary galleon
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when the stats are more important then the look in world of warcraft

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lofty lintel
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They are never more important than the look

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Sorry

true umbra
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my paladin is drippin tho

lofty lintel
wary galleon
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drip > stat

midnight totem
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Doesn't wow have transmog anyway?

lofty lintel
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in every game im willing to stay with an underleveled item over a better one that ruins my look

humble nova
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Literally where the term transmog came from lol

true umbra
midnight totem
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Ah

lofty lintel
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ive never played wow

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ever

midnight totem
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It's been almost 2 decades since I played

lofty lintel
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i grew up with another mmorpg thanks to my dad who showed me it

midnight totem
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Details are hazy

lofty lintel
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while my friends played wow i played lineage 2

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its not that i never wanted to play wow its just my attention was in lineage

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well, i did never want to play wow but not because i didnt like it

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korean mmorpg made me bilingual

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crazy

midnight totem
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I played because my girl at the time did and she was a sexy blood el- gets shot for heresy

lofty lintel
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good.

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purge the unclean

thick rose
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once a player gets captured like 3 times, at rescue time there should be an option to instead execute them and boot them out of the match

lofty lintel
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i think thats too harsh

golden nacelle
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you can always vote to kick a player...

humble nova
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Sounds like someone just had a bad match

lofty lintel
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if a player gets captured 3 times he gets captured 3 times, no biggie pick him back up

night talon
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^

humble nova
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Only time there should be consequences is if they're constantly running off on their own - and the consequences are that they get captured

true umbra
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"can't join my match unless you've completed every map on damnation 6 times " type of energy lmao

torn root
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ngl

lofty lintel
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its fine to be bad at the game being bad at anything means there is room for improvement

torn root
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if its really bad for you you can vote to kick

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Kicking is also slightly problematic imo too tho

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ppl try shit

lofty lintel
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yeah, and then youll realize youre the only one who voted to kick him while your other 2 teammates pick him back up

torn root
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some ppl are learning too

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going down happens

humble nova
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I think I've seen two vote kicks my entire time playing, and both failed

south garnet
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In order to reduce toxicity I don't pick anyone up at all regardless of skill level

golden nacelle
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yeah, it's not that type of game dude

humble nova
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So the threshold for what the community thinks is worth vote-kicking for seems to be fairly high

lofty lintel
#

ive been vote kicked once but its fine because he clarified in advance that they were a 3-stack waiting for their friend

#

i think its the minority of people who think the game is easy and there should be no reason to be dying more than one time in auric maelstrom

torn root
wary galleon
midnight totem
#

Or if they're afk

lofty lintel
#

most people here are mature enough to understand the concept of getting better at a game, to the point where it becomes easy for YOU, because you got used to the games dynamic and mechanics

humble nova
#

Still kinda rude, they should have left and re-formed

lofty lintel
#

i didnt mind it

torn root
#

the only kick i have ever participated on was with someone being overtly toxic to 2 other players and refusing to step into the check point so we could continue

night talon
#

IMO if you curate your pub squads too hard, you quit out of 50% of your games, get salty at every other mistake and end up a worse player because you can't adapt to your team-mate's tactics/mistakesa.

bitter turtle
#

I don't mind if ppl are bad

lofty lintel
#

they probably hopped in expecting to make some progress while their friend was getting on the game

bitter turtle
#

Its more fun that way

wary galleon
midnight totem
#

There are two people I'd votekick

lofty lintel
#

i dont mind people being bad, matter of fact im always willing to help as long as they ask for it

midnight totem
#

Afkers if the rest of the team is at a door

lofty lintel
#

i dont give advice that wasnt asked

midnight totem
#

And people who play without sound and are therefore going down constantly

wary galleon
#

just dont be a fucking asshole and we good brah

lofty lintel
#

i just care about how i perform on the mission whilst not being a burden to my team

bitter turtle
#

The game is soloable so u just need to carry harder if 3 go down

#

Lul

lofty lintel
#

i play for myself but i have my team in mind always

bitter turtle
#

That's my thought process when I play tbh

humble nova
torn root
#

^

night talon
#

random pubs are part of the difficulty modifier for me. Sometimes everybody knows what they're doing and it's a breeze. Other times it's clear you're the best player on the team. Both can be rewarding to play. I respect that some people dont have time and want their mats/gold but i wouldn't use that as a reason to lash out at bad players

wary galleon
#

i like to listen to music sometimes, cant hear everything then

#

should i be executed for my henious crimes?

humble nova
#

Trollin

serene sage
lofty lintel
torn root
vernal harbor
#

mom?

wary galleon
#

dad?

vernal harbor
#

spagh-

torn root
#

it helps a tremendous amount to focus DT audio but a lot of new-commers either don't care or are aware i think

serene sage
wary galleon
midnight totem
#

I don't mean the casual players

bitter turtle
#

I tried to watch nijisanji while playing but it's too hard

night talon
lofty lintel
#

like having a regiment of bulwarks in front of you

wary galleon
#

i usually listen to some prog deathmetal

#

very good to get into the mood

lofty lintel
#

and you dont have any tools to deal with them

wary galleon
#

OF MUDERING EVERY SINGLE HERETIC

serene sage
bitter turtle
#

Lol

torn root
distant yew
#

mods suggestions guys?

bitter turtle
#

It's just vtubers

lofty lintel
#

as long as your build has an answer to everything there are no impossible situations

torn root
#

well auditory overload and had to find out how to deal with it

#

new players experience something similar to what i do

#

so many noises and stuff on the screen gets them distracted easy

midnight totem
#

Being new and not understanding cues is okay

torn root
#

they dont notice spawn noises or even pings because its kinda overwhelming

lofty lintel
#

yeah

humble nova
#

You act like there's a lot going on in sedition

bitter turtle
#

The game can definitely be overwhelming if you aren't used to parsing all the info coming your way

serene sage
#

with great chagrin I have to say I swapped out of gunlance for diablos
beat it first time since i can actually dodge
then immediately kill it again with gunlance for revenge 😤

night talon
#

I miss out on a bunch of spawn noises when i'm really up to my neck in it. I'm not 100% sure if 'silent spawns' are a thing, since I just assume I missed the sound cue.

humble nova
#

My friend, it's blissfully quiet down there

lofty lintel
bitter turtle
serene sage
#

yeah

torn root
midnight totem
#

Being lvl 30 in damnation and playing like a clueless fuckwit only looking forward without your head on a swivel is not

night talon
#

Part of the skillset, IMO, is making sure you arent in a situation where you dont have to pay attention to too many audio cues in the first place

lofty lintel
#

favorite weapon in any game ever

serene sage
#

well both hammer and gl

lofty lintel
#

gunlance was the reason i gave lost ark a try

bitter turtle
#

Longsword is also nice vs diablos

serene sage
bitter turtle
#

Lots of easy counters

torn root
#

i tried getting my gf and her friends into DT playing with them in Sedition, and this is their 1st tide game or L4D-like, they didn't like it because it was kinda hard for them

humble nova
bitter turtle
lofty lintel
torn root
serene sage
bitter turtle
#

It's not a big deal

torn root
#

for so many reasons

true umbra
humble nova
#

Let's hear them then

#

Not every game is for everyone

serene sage
torn root
serene sage
#

you're wrong

torn root
#

Horde-shooter works

humble nova
#

I said not every game, I know english is hard

midnight totem
lofty lintel
bitter turtle
lofty lintel
bitter turtle
#

No need to sweat so seriously over it

humble nova
#

Who's sweating?

#

I'm saying if you get auditory overload maybe it's not for you

bitter turtle
#

If u expect everyone to study videos before playing

humble nova
#

Nothing wrong with that

bitter turtle
#

That is sweating

humble nova
#

I mean it isn't

bitter turtle
#

That's what I do for.fighters lol

torn root
#

you talking about having to watch a video before you get into a game --- isn;t normal btw

lofty lintel
#

^

serene sage
torn root
#

most ppl see shit and just wanna try it, im NOT watching on every video game before i try it

humble nova
#

Personally I don't like to waste my money on games I'm not gonna like so yeah, I watch a video first

#

That's not abnormal

serene sage
#

This is called a "counter example" btw

torn root
#

what if the video skews an opinion badly like a bad IGN gameplay?

humble nova
midnight totem
#

Imagine the Cuphead guy playing Darktide

lofty lintel
true umbra
# humble nova That's not abnormal

id go one further, you should wait 2 weeks after a game releases because thats when you really know if past 50+ hours the game is even fun

midnight totem
serene sage
lofty lintel
#

some people just see a game that looks cool and buy it

#

you can always refund

bitter turtle
#

I buy games bc there are cute characters on it

humble nova
serene sage
crude ermine
#

Hadron

midnight totem
lofty lintel
#

i admit i preorder games

bitter turtle
torn root
bitter turtle
#

Dt is not one of those times

#

Dt is when my friends bully me into buying it and then all quit

true umbra
lofty lintel
serene sage
lofty lintel
#

im serious ogryns are wholesome

midnight totem
#

Loose cannon female vets

torn root
sharp ember
serene sage
crude ermine
#

I buy games because of

A. Elves

B. Cute woman

C. Sillyness

lofty lintel
#

i buy games because theyre fun thumbsup_ogryn

torn root
#

I like games that aren't easy --- gunna put that out there

bitter turtle
serene sage
#

I buy games because of
A. gameplay
B. gameplay
C. graphics (doesn't have to be realisitc, I just need to vibe with it)

torn root
#

but that is NOT 80% of game consumers

bitter turtle
humble nova
lofty lintel
#

i just watch the tags and the trailer on the web page

crude ermine
true umbra
lofty lintel
torn root
serene sage
torn root
#

early access players are less than 1% of the playerbase lmao

#

I'm one of those unfortunate souls

lofty lintel
#

TRUE

humble nova
#

No I have no idea what the day before is

true umbra
serene sage
humble nova
#

This reference has gone right over my head

lofty lintel
#

but theyre real

#

and they buy steam accounts with the day before for a disgusting amount of money

midnight totem
#

Yeah? I got steam because of one game

true umbra
midnight totem
#

It was counterstrike

humble nova
#

lmao wat

lofty lintel
midnight totem
lofty lintel
#

to play with my friends

torn root
midnight totem
#

Over 20 years ago

#

LOL

#

The first accounts

lofty lintel
#

13 here

serene sage
#

my first Steam game ever was The Binding of Isaac thumbsup_ogryn

#

I guess technically it was Dota2

crude ermine
#

My first ever was skullgirls because my ex gifted me it

serene sage
#

but in term of paid games, ig

torn root
#

warframe

lofty lintel
#

im a league of legends guy

#

never got into dota

torn root
#

Before it got watered down

lofty lintel
#

warframe is an amazing game

sharp trail
#

eh

lofty lintel
#

i dare to say the best F2P game rn

midnight totem
#

F2p

serene sage
#

oh boy, i went from W3 customs (including OG Dota) to Dota2 to LoL (still play)

torn root
midnight totem
#

More like pay for drip

true umbra
#

imagine you -played warframe when they had 4 frames >.>

serene sage
bitter turtle
midnight totem
#

... granted I'm guilty of drip

lofty lintel
#

its so fun

serene sage
#

idk if it ever gets harder but it's so boring

#

you run around and everything dies in one hit

torn root
#

it got really bad at one point, the ''PRESS 4 TO WIN'' era of Warframe was when i stopped playing

midnight totem
#

Oh it's definitely easy

#

That's the point

lofty lintel
#

well if im being biased destiny 1 and 2 are one of my favorite games of all time

#

so d2 would be the best f2p game but guess what its not actually f2p.

torn root
lofty lintel
#

it fucking sucks.

midnight totem
#

It's power fantasy

serene sage
#

like there is next to no challenge, bosses are okayish, some are semi challenging, the rest are pushovers (so far in my limited playtime)
i dropped it cause i can't stand the snooze

torn root
#

realized bungie abuses its consumers now tho

crude ermine
#

D2 was fun but I lost interest in it last season

lofty lintel
#

its the only game that will take from you stuff you paid for

midnight totem
#

Technically so is darktide but it's mechanically more challenging to get there

serene sage
lofty lintel
#

i played destiny 2 because d1 was and still is one of my favorite games ever

crude ermine
#

Inismntsalled it for space to redownload mhw and rise

torn root
#

Yall thought that Sony was holding Bungie down, Sony legit kept Bungie from being the villain they are today lmao

crude ermine
#

I still remember the fiasco that happened 2 months back with that

bitter turtle
#

It happens often

humble nova
#

I stopped Warframe when i realized it was all farm no challenge

bitter turtle
torn root
torn root
humble nova
#

I mean I played when Rhino was still recommended

midnight totem
crude ermine
#

I was a khora main

sacred spindle
#

I dip into wargame about once a year until I get bored of the farm

torn root
humble nova
#

That... sounds like chaos?

torn root
#

and changed the game to a more fluid ability spam numbers game

serene sage
#

It depends on what you play vidya for tbh, I like challenges

torn root
#

they removed cool themes like dark sectors too

serene sage
#

im like neck deep in all the roguelites stuff

sacred spindle
#

the big update with the roguelite mode was fun and had a bit of challenge but yeah, still mostly farm

serene sage
#

busting my balls until I win more and more

crude ermine
#

I'm slowly getting into roguelikes

torn root
lofty lintel
#

roguelikes are awesome

serene sage
bitter turtle
torn root
#

aye!

midnight totem
#

I got different games for different things

bitter turtle
#

Things just fall off in difficulty nowadays as an adult unless u do really dumb self imposed challenges

sacred spindle
#

If anyone loves the darktide gameplay and roguelite progression systems, I strongly recommend looking into Witchfire

lofty lintel
#

i can only play up to 3 games at a time

crude ermine
#

Ror2 mention

midnight totem
#

Counter-strike is now for getting my old aging ass headshot

lofty lintel
sacred spindle
#

it's not done yet and still very very early access but the devs making it seem to listen to the playerbase and the gameplay loop is amazing

crude ermine
humble nova
lofty lintel
#

^

bitter turtle
midnight totem
#

Darkest Dungeon is for gleefully getting my friends killed

bitter turtle
#

Part of it is just having grown up

torn root
humble nova
#

Fo sho

torn root
#

i didnt really like these kind of games till recently

bitter turtle
#

When I was a kid I didn't know wtf I was doing so I made it harder for myself

sharp trail
serene sage
#

Isaac, high heat Hades, monsoon RoR2 (don't like the extra mode cause it limits infinite runs), a20 StS, a15 20tD, d5 Brotato
working on unlocking all Monster Train stuff rn
I love all of those stuff

crude ermine
#

I still have darkest Dungeon installed, haven't played it in a while

humble nova
lofty lintel
midnight totem
#

Vermintide and Darktide is sating my need to FOR THE EMPEROR

lofty lintel
#

and jupiters hell

bitter turtle
torn root
torn root
lofty lintel
#

monster hunter is so good theres a new one that been announced

serene sage
torn root
#

i think at some point MH did influence Demon souls

lofty lintel
#

its gonna be like world

humble nova
torn root
#

cause it did come out first

bitter turtle
#

There's a reason a lot of souls players got filtered even in world

#

And mh was made bc of pso

midnight totem
#

And Final Fantasy xiv is for cute girls who are probably actually guys or slaaneshi cultists idk

torn root
bitter turtle
#

Everything influences everything ye

gusty bison
#

Darkest Dungeon isnt that hard tbh

bitter turtle
#

God I remember finding pso1 challenging as a kid

torn root
lofty lintel
#

i never liked ff14

torn root
#

like actually

#

and i still like it lmao

bitter turtle
#

And then I go back and realize I was just bad lol

gusty bison
#

If ya hate rng DD2 then

humble nova
#

If your difficulty is "lul eat this rng noob", that's not difficult

gusty bison
#

A lot nicer on the RNG

serene sage
bitter turtle
#

All I know about DD is that it has a lot of horny mods

lofty lintel
#

i was too young for pso1 lolol

midnight totem
#

I haven't gotten dd2 yet, but I will now that Crusader is out

#

Everything has horny mods

torn root
#

leave the titty mods alone

gusty bison
midnight totem
#

Even darktide

serene sage
gusty bison
#

I will say. I still havent figured out how to use Duelist yet in DD2

#

Very complex

serene sage
#

have you seen Graverobber thighs?

bitter turtle
serene sage
#

my my

torn root
#

aint nothing wrong bro!

lofty lintel
#

crazy

bitter turtle
#

Lol

sharp trail
lofty lintel
#

i dont like oversexualized characters

#

i think its stupid

bitter turtle
#

I bought an old ShindoL game today

lofty lintel
#

unless theres context to it

serene sage
bitter turtle
torn root
woven coral
#

is running no keystone on vet a good idea?

crude ermine
lofty lintel
#

i try to avoid games that shove sexualized stuff into their games without any context

crude ermine
#

Not even the normal low rank khez

serene sage
bitter turtle
#

Yes

#

"Context"

humble nova
torn root
#

like actually

lofty lintel
#

yore talking about quiet i assume

serene sage
torn root
#

The thing about the swap to WORDL and RISE is, a lot

bitter turtle
serene sage
midnight totem
#

Ayyy

crude ermine
torn root
torn root
serene sage
#

Goddam

lofty lintel
bitter turtle
#

Unironically I really like her look but Kojima excuse for it and the discourse was hilarious

lofty lintel
#

i think a good example in the metal gear series is eva

torn root
bitter turtle
#

"Omg she has a really good reason to be in a bikini u guys will be sorry" - kojima

lofty lintel
#

shes a fleshed out femme fatale character

#

with reasons and motivations

#

quiet is just

#

i was sent to kill the boss but now i fell in love and i wiggle my ass on your face!

#

its stupid

#

anything to add the kojima flair to their games i guess

torn root
#

I HOPE THE dd CONVO DIDNT START SOMETHING BAD

#

my bad

bitter turtle
#

I took the.most sfw picture I could

torn root
#

i don't read anything from them

#

only thing i have is EMERGENCE

#

because it was a meme

bitter turtle
#

Yeah the meme one

serene sage
bitter turtle
#

Lol

serene sage
#

For archival purposes

torn root
bitter turtle
#

Ya

torn root
#

wtf?!?!!

#

wait a minute

bitter turtle
#

It's an old game they illustrated for

midnight totem
#

Anyway, let's get back on topic before we have to purge everybody in the name of the Emperor.

Zealots are smelly, yall agree?

bitter turtle
#

Recon bad

torn root
#

das crazy

lofty lintel
#

nerf revolver

midnight totem
#

I'm not sure how they're gonna balance recon

lofty lintel
#

just higher base dmg would be fine

torn root
#

that's all it needs

lofty lintel
#

make it compete with iags finesse

torn root
#

the headshot values aren't bad

lofty lintel
#

theyre subpar

torn root
#

IAG needs a nerf

#

legit

lofty lintel
#

only the columnus

torn root
#

imma be honest

#

all IAGs do mad damage

#

Columnus is just pack leader

bitter turtle
#

Graia isn't far behind and has great recoil control

torn root
#

^

bitter turtle
#

It's really flexible and I prefer it now over colu

#

Tbh

serene sage
#

First on the chopping block should be Revolver and Plasma

#

Tbh

bitter turtle
#

Those long range snipes are so much easier

midnight totem
#

I haven't picked up a good graia

#

I have a good agrip, though, it's very reliable but jack of all trades

humble nova
lofty lintel
#

i disagree

#

i always say the same thing when these type of arguments are brought up

torn root
humble nova
#

Maybe a small one

lofty lintel
#

if you have a table and one leg is longer you dont make the other 3 longer, you shorten the one long leg

humble nova
#

I prefer the rising tide method

torn root
#

making everything more powerful only serves to make the game easier

midnight totem
#

Except recon

humble nova
midnight totem
#

That Def needs to be made longer

torn root
#

give a bump up and a few down

humble nova
#

So now you have three short legs and one extra short leg

torn root
#

idm columnus getting nerfed as long it doesnt get gutted

lofty lintel
#

if you execute it wrongly yes

#

you do get an extra short leg

dreamy lantern
#

revolver needs a nerf 100%

humble nova
#

We've seen how well fatshark balance works when nerfing

#

Things get gutted

lofty lintel
#

but i think its bad design to buff everything because 2 things are overtuned

bitter turtle
torn root
lofty lintel
#

but well in fatsharks case, we have like 10 long legs

bitter turtle
#

They just hate recon

serene sage
humble nova
bitter turtle
#

The flamer is usable

serene sage
#

Revolver and Plasma and the motherfucking Kickback

torn root
#

flamer is still okay

serene sage
#

Hello?

torn root
#

not dead

dreamy lantern
#

flamer is amazing

humble nova
#

I see like one flamer a week

serene sage
#

Did we forget the Kickback?

midnight totem
#

Colu takes 10 percent damage nerf, recon all get base damage buff, boom, better

serene sage
#

That's FS buffing

lofty lintel
#

like take the bolter for example, the bolter is a perfectly balanced solid weapon, but no one uses it because revolver, being stupidly op, does the same job as the bolter but 100x better

bitter turtle
humble nova
#

They just don't like to make small incremental changes, is the real issue

bitter turtle
#

As a horde gun it does its job fine

serene sage
torn root
lofty lintel
#

in that case you dont overtune the bolter, you just balance revolver to be an OPTION, not the meta

humble nova
#

They prefer splashy changes for eyeballs

torn root
#

its the fire rate, the clipsize the accuracy

#

how well it works with onslaught and rending too

lofty lintel
#

im bad at explaining these types of things cuz my english isnt polished, but i hope i made sense

serene sage
midnight totem
#

And let's keep it that way kuro, those are part of the weapons natural feel

torn root
humble nova
serene sage
#

It's not you babe, it's your appearance and personality

humble nova
#

Low fire rate weapons have to have high damage

torn root
#

like why does it have 50+ bullets per mag?!

serene sage
#

But it's not you

lofty lintel
#

simple, lower the ADM

bitter turtle
#

It didn't even need the buff it got in 14

#

@ revolver

lofty lintel
#

nerf the revolver not hand cannon

serene sage
midnight totem
#

I mean, we do need at least one weapon with an extended mag

humble nova
torn root
humble nova
#

Or are cleave values strictly tied to enemy type

torn root
#

should be the extendo mag guns, for rambo purposes

serene sage
#

Just can't pierce

humble nova
#

Yeah okay, that makes sense

serene sage
#

Cleave is already stopped by Carapace

torn root
#

^

lofty lintel
#

nerf the armor breakpoints as well

#

you 2 shot a crusher in damnation

torn root
humble nova
#

Now you're talking like fatshark

lofty lintel
#

yes

humble nova
#

One nerf at a time

lofty lintel
#

?

serene sage
#

Cleave of 2 or 3 means it can't shoot past a line of gunners and kill all of them

humble nova
#

You don't need to hit it from multiple directions, you make incremental changes. Reducing cleave should be enough by itself to bring it in line.

lofty lintel
#

i think thats a good nerf but not the main issue with revolver IMO.

serene sage
lofty lintel
#

i think the adm is what makes it so op and the main reason why the hand cannon nerf was completely useless

serene sage
#

It's the cleave

lofty lintel
#

but i think at this point we're sharing opinions

bitter turtle
#

It needs a damage down imo

#

It doesn't need to 2 shot carapace to.be good

torn root
#

^

humble nova
#

Don't forget it's not a vet-exclusive weapon

midnight totem
#

Is revolver a problem because it can deal with carapace

fossil basalt
#

I think the problem is how busted HC Is when added to the perfectly fine revolver

humble nova
#

No, revolver is a problem because it can cleave through the moon

fossil basalt
#

That's what really lets those crushers feel pain

humble nova
#

And has fast activation speed

bitter turtle
torn root
midnight totem
#

Or is it a problem because carapace has to be dealt with in the quickest and most efficient matter, which for weaponry is a revolver

bitter turtle
#

It combines the quick sniping of dmr

lofty lintel
humble nova
bitter turtle
#

With the armor pen of heavy weps

humble nova
#

If you tune down the revolver, vet has plenty of toys, but zealot will get hit hard

bitter turtle
#

The only weakness of ammo is further removed with wep specialist

midnight totem
torn root
#

i think thats the disconnect

lofty lintel
torn root
#

you can touch it without ruining it for everyone else

lofty lintel
#

zealot will be using the revolver for what its for in zealots case, killing priority targets from a distance.

midnight totem
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Hey im salty zealots got better stamina regen innate then we do

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More health is fine

lofty lintel
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i dont see how he would get hit hard with the revolver nerf

bitter turtle
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Revolvers job should be a quick option to deal with specials

lofty lintel
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yes

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exactly