veteran-class

[serene sage]

Possibly?

[quick steeple]

29m, scales linearly

then caps past 30

[serene sage]

I've seen figures 20m 24m cap

With 8m min distance

Are you sure it caps at 30?

[ocean viper]

i run this but with longshot instead of charismatic

[sly cliff]

Is the AutoPistol a viable weapon choice for the Veteran?

[quick steeple]

yes, 8m min to begin buff > linear scaling out to 30m

[torn root]

it caps at 29

but same shit

[crisp bronze]

Here's a suggestion to buff shotguns and an underused blessing a bit. Give us Man-Stopper (Increased Cleave on Crit) 3 and 4 but add Rending to the tier 3 and tier 4 versions. Basically making Man-Stopper a version of Hand-Cannon for Shotguns.

[ocean viper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1191859252243988621/image-21.png?ex=65a6f86d&is=6594836d&hm=7ff826073d8a47225d88297508f026226f4a192ef80958e117f54f4222a7a2e9&

for context i use this revolver

[serene sage]

Handcanon?

[ocean viper]

I was considering that earlier actually

i came to the conclusion i like panic crits better

[torn root]

.>

[soft wraith]

question, is raking fire only acquired as a secondary blessing?

[torn root]

thought you said you wanted to keep both crit blessings...

[soft wraith]

ive only ever seen it as the second blessing?

[ocean viper]

yes

im rolling another revolver for handcannon rn

i have spent 5m dockets

well in my experience

in comparison to vermintide you don't need as much min max as you did previously

to hit breakpoints

but im still going to min max because i like 80%

never forget 10% power vs skaven

[torn root]

you need more min max in this game

lmao

rolling gear was easier in v2 as well

a lot more rng here

a lot less pulls as well

[ocean viper]

mostly in talent trees

not gear

[civic knot]

BiS perks for zarona revolver?

[ocean viper]

well.............

[torn root]

NO

[ocean viper]

maybe not so less

[torn root]

Mostly on the gear sir

[ocean viper]

well

vermintide you had to get grimoures

but they added chaos wastes

which was a fun way to get red items

[ocean viper]

uh the ads one or the speedloader fan the hammer one

[civic knot]

asked about perks

not blessings

[ocean viper]

same thing

[quick steeple]

they are related based on use case a bit tbf

[ocean viper]

some people like to fan the hammer on bosses

i just use maniac + flak on mine to 1 tap specials

[lilac jewel]

have recently discovered the beauty if columns mk v dum dum and deathspitter

deletes so many things with focus fire

but i have to switch away from it if theres even a single ogryn in the lobby because fuck man they body block my whole clip (plasma fixes this tho, because it goes through)

[terse idol]

Maybe.... Carapace Maniac?

Don't quote me though

[torn root]

just run in front of them

I have learned that this is the way

[terse idol]

I'm not sure because I have to ask, is + carapace, Handcannon surgical, be enough to change the BP

2 shot croosher

[torn root]

good to see another sibling of the Columnus Church

[viscid vessel]

Is there any sort of accepted best perks/blessings for the MK VII Sapper Shovel yet?

[crude ermine]

Thrust is always good to use

[jolly hemlock]

I enjoyed the sapper 3 with thrust and decimator and unyielding, flak I think

[terse idol]

Uncanny strike, decimator?

[jolly hemlock]

Uncanny works too yea

[terse idol]

*nod

Thrust would be pretty consistent too I imagine

[jolly hemlock]

I liked thrust more personally

But I run combat blade 4 now and can't switch away anymore

[viscid vessel]

I'm a Mk 4 Devil Claw stan, but I want to switch things up.

[civic knot]

What to change here?

[terse idol]

Maybe unyielding to maniac
But I would recommend testing it out first

How many shots to take down a rager

How many shots vs a crusher

[swift ingot]

Mfw Valhallan Ice Warrior cosmetics finally get added

Its about to be Jurgen time lads

Time to finally whip this baby out

[south garnet]

anyone else in here get this in settings? "Warning: Nvidia Frame Generation is not enabled. Hardware-Accelerated GPU Scheduling needs to be enabled in Windows." but they already have it enabled in windows?
Or have a resolution for it? (I just upgraded to a 4090)

[cunning holly]

You don't want to use a revolver on crusher in most cases.

[terse idol]

Really?

I can 3 shot a crusher in the head

[cunning holly]

What dif?

[terse idol]

Damnation

This is partially why we run like

[cunning holly]

rly? give me specks I want to try it then

[terse idol]

Handcannon

For rending

Yuh

Oh

The specs uh

Surgical, hand cannon

I'm not home rn

Also weapon spec

[cunning holly]

4090 here, had no such issues. Then again, I dont use frame generation.

[terse idol]

Like revolver imo is pretty well suited to drop crushers

It even has penetration stat

[crude ermine]

And that stat goes hard

But what of bonus crit

Never thought about it too much

[serene sage]

First off, congrats and fuck you for getting a better GPU than mind
Second off, is your driver properly installed?

Like DDU uninstalling

And reinstall

[terse idol]

Bonus crit slaps for that crit damage doesn't it

[south garnet]

Good call, I was inclined not to anyway considering the server side latency already throws "ghost" inputs and etc. anyway. Just hoping I have everything set correctly.

[serene sage]

Also, check your Window settings, and maybe it's in BIOS even?

[cunning holly]

Never been in a situ where I could just aim 3 shots into a crusher... Dont remember last time I saw a single crusher just wandering around.

[serene sage]

Did you DDU it?

[terse idol]

Well like, you'll ne able to find those shots sloowly, I find them when crushers are walking towards me, or they're over heading my teammate

[south garnet]

Nah not yet, although this is a solid concern for Nvidia drivers in particular. I haven't resorted to that yet, solid tip. I do also need to check my

[cunning holly]

I actually hoped to ditch the DLSS, but with 4k and high sets even 4090 gave my the finger... Sad times we live in.

[south garnet]

Startup settings

It posted which is always my biggest concern lol. But I do need to make sure it's registering properly

[cunning holly]

To be fair I play 3rd person, so I mostly just get the bolter and blaze away...

[terse idol]

That would make playing revolver harder

[cunning holly]

Custom crosshair fixes that to a degree

[hollow ibex]

3rd persoooon broooooo

[terse idol]

Also, I do recommend weapon spec because it pairs very well for the revolver

[swift ingot]

Oh boy I can’t wait to get the Melta Gun in the next 2 years

[terse idol]

And i mean, outside of a vacuum landing 1 crit headshot on a crusher will ruin its day

[cunning holly]

I want to see my outfit that I paid for! That red cap will not praise itself

[serene sage]

It's coming out next year actually

[cunning holly]

Krak grenade landing on its ass will ruin its and everything around it.

[serene sage]

As a Zealot exclusive weapon

[terse idol]

Truue

[swift ingot]

Jurgen Cosplay is dead, guess I’ll have to settle for this on vet

[cunning holly]

BUt aside from the question of hitting crushers specifically with revolver, I find that it is one of the best guns so far in the game.

[swift ingot]

I knew that it’d most likely be for zealot but I was just hoping and praying for the Jurgen cosplay on vet

[terse idol]

It is up there, contends very well against plasmagun and the Columbus iag

[serene sage]

The trio

[swift ingot]

Yeah it makes sense

Gotta have that holy trinity

[cunning holly]

Did they fix the vis bug? The new plasma is a lovely thing, but makes me susceptible to baing picked apart by stuff when nobody cares for the comissar...

[swift ingot]

At least when it drops I’ll most likely be able to make my plasma gun look exactly like a Melta via the weapon customization mod

[cunning holly]

That would require for a saggy outfit and a new item of tanna refil, or recaf...

[umbral granite]

in brunts right now, good or bad?

[crude ermine]

Oh god

51% reload speed

Everything else is good

But I highly recommend running volley adept if you're going to run it because that reload speed will hurt

[swift ingot]

Reload speed is overrated anyways

[umbral granite]

it's 8k dockets, might as well pick it up

[modest sapphire]

what is the best combat blade for vet? debating between weakspot damage, and full bleed

[swift ingot]

We got the Valhallan Drip on vet so I can at least start doing it

[gaunt stratus]

replace deathspitter with?

[crude ermine]

Maybe firing frenzy?

[gaunt stratus]

thats what i was thinking

[terse idol]

Its just visibility it'll still do the damage
But noopw

[hollow ibex]

that's fair lol

[terse idol]

FS devs are also still on vacation mode iirc

[hollow ibex]

western european work schedules

[crude ermine]

Until January something

[terse idol]

Yuhh

[hollow ibex]

we need to chain the devs to their computers

and lock the doors

if we're grinding, so should they

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/852669297611636749.webp?size=48&name=kekw&quality=lossless

[crude ermine]

Force them to be crunched under the machine

[cunning holly]

Gah. That just looks hideous to not see it fire. And apparently every dev is on vac, sertain ubi soft company has been not delivering on proper service either...

[serene sage]

Bolter has like 2.5 stats that matters, and Reload being one them 😔

[terse idol]

Is okie

They gave us content before leaving

[swift ingot]

I just want bolt pistol already

[cunning holly]

Well, it would just be much better if stuff wouldnt break when they give....

[cunning holly]

Amen to that. Waiting next DLC

[true warren]

A hotshot lasgun would be cool

[umbral granite]

Picked this up from melk, let's see if hadron bricks it

[terse idol]

I Mena ahhg

Like

Okay the issue with the pgun was fixed

to also introduce a visual audio bug

Which

I'm sure had to do with that bug in the first place

[umbral granite]

nevermind, i am out of plasteel... again

[cunning holly]

Dedication, and one day you will have 10k of it

[swift ingot]

It’s been a bit since I’ve played darktide, I’ve been absolutely obsessed with Rouge Trader for the past couple weeks

[cunning holly]

Or you can just update one thing and run it into oblivion, like my sister did... now she has almost 100k

[cunning holly]

Typical of devs... Though in all honesty, Fatshark are not the worst at it. Just... Dont want them keeping silent on such visible issues.

[terse idol]

Typical? Its fiine

Its just development things

Fix a bug

Another bug pops up

[swift ingot]

Wonder whats in store for the next big update

[terse idol]

We're in a pretty stable version all things considered

[cunning holly]

Gah, would love to play it, but will need a vac myself for that or I will throw it away after chapter one as with a lot of interestin story based games...

[woven geode]

does this stack on itself?

with multiple hits?

[sturdy herald]

Out of curiosity -- what's the general consensus for plasma gun, Blaze Away or Shattering Impact?

[cunning holly]

Considering the very launch of the game? yes.

[swift ingot]

Blaze away

[sturdy herald]

Even level 3 Blaze vs. level 4 Impact?

[swift ingot]

Blaze is better on plasma

Also Blaze only goes to 3

[sturdy herald]

Oh, does it? Good to know.

So you'd definitely take the left over the right? (Assuming I can change the perks, naturally)

[swift ingot]

Take the left and swap crit chance for elites

[sturdy herald]

Elites, really? Not Caparace + Unyielding?

[swift ingot]

Keep flak as is incase you get a plasma with gets hot 4

[swift ingot]

It’s to help hit one shot breakpoints on both gunners and ragers

[sturdy herald]

I assume 4 gets to 50%?

[swift ingot]

Consistently

[sturdy herald]

Gotcha.

[swift ingot]

Cara doesn’t really help all that much for hitting bps on crushers anyways

[sturdy herald]

Perfect, that's super helpful.

Thanks, Mr. Crimson!

[swift ingot]

Np pal

[terse idol]

You dont want carapace

Or well uhhhh

My brain its cooking

Hold on gotta do testing

[terse idol]

You can meet dredge gunner breakpoint with just + elites?

[raw steppe]

Yes lol

You do about 1360 damage with talents

[terse idol]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[raw steppe]

So you either get the last 40 damage from tag keystone and free up your perk

Or you go elites perk and free up the talent points

[terse idol]

jesus we're hitting 40 damage that close

[neat stratus]

huh

chat is this real

[terse idol]

no

It's modded

[cunning holly]

elites perk will be nmore consistent, and much more less annoying. Not to say that I find all of the keystones being useless for what they offer

[neat stratus]

So theres a mod

[terse idol]

USELESS?

Aw man

[cunning holly]

Yes, Earlier points give almost same results in a more consistent and less restricting way

[lyric nymph]

What's the best melee weapon and gun to use?

[cunning holly]

Why the heck would I want to stay still, wait 10 secs or constantly switch to killing 10 melee enemies ?

[terse idol]

Nothing in the tree will give you 32% extra damage and a damage buff to a boss to your whole team doe

Okay okay hold on

I think Keystones for vet especially

Are making people think too hard

Marksmens focus, doesn't mean you HAVE to stand still

You generate stacks on weakpoint kills

And you have a window to wiggle or slide over if you need to for 3 seconds

You get mucho stacks by just doing regular gameplay and popping every gunner you see

Weapon spec, you don't need to swap every 10 melee kills,
You can But you want to swap to get the 10 stacks + Guranteed crit on next shot that Weapon spec gives you

AND

By swapping if you take the sub node you get toughenss

It pairs very well with agile engament

[raw steppe]

Not really lol

[terse idol]

and you don't swap to melee or ranged every time you get 1 kill

[raw steppe]

The keystomes are really good

[terse idol]

With agile engagement

[raw steppe]

Its very ignorant to call them useless

[cunning holly]

Debatable

[terse idol]

I think people are over thinking keystones

Marksmens focus, with camoflauge

You can EASILY get stacks

[raw steppe]

For example, for marksman, the stacks fall off 1 by 1 so you dont need to stand still

[cunning holly]

I will be playing in around 5-10 minutes. Are you free? Cause I might be able to believe you when I see you in action if they are any good

[terse idol]

If you just play like you can while playing with exec

Uhhh, I mayy be

Just lmk

@raw steppe

hold up

+10 elite

Isn't gonna meet the dredge gunner one tap

[raw steppe]

30% weakspot and 15% elite on tree

[cunning holly]

Cool. I am Zealot main, and I hate that I always feel overwhelmed on vet 😄

[terse idol]

Unarmoured

My friend

😌

Wow

We are really close

But!

It SEEMS LIKE

Even with the talents

You're off

I think unarmoured IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SPAM FOCUS TARGET

Will edge out + elites

Because it can one tap without any added effort

Which I value greatly on the pgun

Okay with "For the emperor"

You'll make it

But that means the BP is lacking that 10%

We are at the 10% threshhold to meet Dredge gunners

Also stats for my Pgun

I've seen an 80-80 Dmg, stp Pgun still lack about 40dmg

Which mayve +10% elites may hit?

But that means you may need to roll max damage stats

[dapper vessel]

nice guns bro

[cunning holly]

yeah, 3 mil to roll lol if you are lucky

[terse idol]

It's.. okay if you don't want to get like premium

Like

[neat stratus]

Help

[white reef]

I realize that extra 3% dmg is actually quite important

[terse idol]

I have a crappy Pgun over here, with lower damage

[stoic mantle]

is this worth picking up?

[neat stratus]

Yeh

Who needs to move anyways

[stoic mantle]

I've never used a brauto

[cunning holly]

You play some more, you get some more gold, you get better

[white reef]

My green Plasma with 80% dmg is able to one shot dreg gunner but my orange one with 77% can’t

[tiny summit]

Yea sure. Get it

[terse idol]

Back on the testing grind

You do want to test if having +10% elite will actually let you meet the BP on dredge gunners

If not you need to grab unarmoured

[stoic mantle]

speeeeeeed

[empty root]

Trash can

[tacit sonnet]

penetration 60 trash

[empty root]

Get a power sword like a real man

[stoic mantle]

psword is good but boring

[terse idol]

dispair

[cunning holly]

Unless you expect to charge crushers and maulers, and rather expect to charge AWAY from them - why not?

Get more speed and enough stamina tho

[empty root]

Oof that cleave

[terse idol]

Okay and abit of added testing

[tacit sonnet]

cleave literally doesn't matter too much on PS

[terse idol]

Seemingly even if you have an 80SP pgun
With carapace

Assuming 0 crits

You'll need to make 4 shots

3 with a crit

[tacit sonnet]

Cleave damage is high, that's enough

[terse idol]

I have another pgun here with 69% SP

[empty root]

I'm gonna admit I don't even know what the cleave stat does

[terse idol]

Still 4 shots

[midnight totem]

what breakpoint is that to one shot dreg gunners? with plasma gun

[cunning holly]

Interesting

[empty root]

Head shot

[terse idol]

Unarmoured

Left click headshot

Uncharged

[midnight totem]

damn, my plasma gun is 79 damage with 20 unarmored

[cunning holly]

lacerate def

[stoic mantle]

This is what the cleave stats mean

[midnight totem]

and it doesn't one hit head headshot

[empty root]

Those numbers mean literally nothing to me

Explain it like I'm 5

[terse idol]

You need to take

[cunning holly]

@terse idol we live in game, no pressure, but I would love to have a vet with me to see how a proper one lives on a battlefield

[terse idol]

The +20 Weakpoint damage

+15% elite damage

In the talents

[terse idol]

where I add ye

[midnight totem]

I have the weakpoint damage, I don't have the 15 elite sadly

my build is lacking one point short for it

[terse idol]

Gotta make space if you want to make it

are you going voc?

[midnight totem]

nope

infiltrate

[terse idol]

Hmmmm

[stoic mantle]

Higher number is more gooder

[terse idol]

I mean if you have Close Quarter killzone

I mean you'll definetly make it

Are you going weapon spec?

[midnight totem]

yup

[cunning holly]

I can send you my fatshark friend code 😄

[terse idol]

I doon't persoanlly recommand it with pgun But!

It's fine

[midnight totem]

I don't really need that bp tbh

[terse idol]

You'll be able to meet the BP by just getting the crit

[midnight totem]

it just would have been nice to have xD

[terse idol]

It does make the pgun play a little smootherr

yeahh

I mean

You could get it if you take unarmoured + elites

But that's a big investment

[terse idol]

yuhh

[cunning holly]

2998098695

[terse idol]

must exit the psykanarium

[midnight totem]

my one spare point goes in agile engagement really

all I actually have to do is to melee some poor sucker then pull out my plasma gun and vaporize a bitch

+25 percent damage

[terse idol]

yeah

that's certainly how you'll need to meet the BP

[raw steppe]

What stats

Are you 80/80

[terse idol]

no

I'm 77 80

Which yeah that's why I was curious

if 80 80 gave you the +elites

[raw steppe]

Never take unarmored lol

[terse idol]

huh?

[raw steppe]

Huge waste of perk

[terse idol]

Cap

That's cap

it is the difference made out of the need to one shot dredge gunners

[terse idol]

It consistantly meets it

SEEMINGLY

[buoyant axle]

i just started playing yesterday and i've only done level 1 and 2 missions. tried a level 3 and one of my teammates died within a minute of enemies actually coming out 😔

[terse idol]

yeah that's normal

[buoyant axle]

maybe i stay at level 2 for awhile lol

[terse idol]

The game is extra hard on 3

Because teammates aren't too good

you'll get there Im sure

honestly 2 is hard too

[midnight totem]

the game is 4 v the ai

except when you go up a difficulty at first

then its 1 v the ai + 3

[umbral granite]

What are the main stats on the helbore mk 1? I've been wanting to play the kreigsman (even though i dont have the kreig outfit)

[tall torrent]

What to do

[sturdy herald]

Honestly? If you really want to get better, get some people from either the Discord or some friendly faces in the Mourningstar and run with them. It's a lot easier to run with people who know what they're doing, and you can start to pick up good habits when you're done being overwhelmed by the game mechanics.

[obtuse raft]

Strongest malice pub

[sturdy herald]

I made the mistake of playing it safe running 1s and 2s and picked up some REALLY bad habits along the way.

[serene sage]

why would they die when enemies come out? are they homophobic or some?

[obtuse raft]

Really though as long as you aren't still learning fundamentals you can't really prepare for the next difficultly up without trying it past a certain point

Learning bad habits in low difficulties is really really common like they said

as long as you are staying alive and occasionally shooting specials most reasonable people are not going to have any problem with you

[sturdy herald]

To build on what Unkindant said, you can also transition via Hi-Intensity mission mods on the difficulty you're comfortable on -- it's sorta a good stepping stone.

[tall torrent]

What class are u starting off with

[obtuse raft]

Yeah I'd recommend that. You can't get used to the new breakpoints and such but it's a pretty comparable amount of stuff

[sturdy herald]

I mean, they're in Vet chat, so I'd wager it's that. 😛

[tall torrent]

I’m gonna make the unkind suggestion to tell them to learn melee on vet

[serene sage]

The better you are at melee the better you are at vet

Everyone can shoot, not like Darktide has exCSGO pros shooting back

[sturdy herald]

What's the logic? Not trolling, actually interested.

[serene sage]

But not everyone can melee

[midnight totem]

@terse idol ha! I changed my flak to elite

now I don't one tap headshot the scab gunners

[tall torrent]

Playing melee on vet forces u to engage with basically every mechanic in the game

[serene sage]

Years of FPS conditioning means people are good generally at shooting. Hell even if you have no experience Darktide is kinda zzz as a shooter. It's the melee that people cave in like wet tissue.

[tall torrent]

Learn block & dodge
Learn picking priority targets
Rely on your guns significantly less
Learn how to deal with specialists
Learn how to deal with ranged enemies

[stiff pasture]

For a vet crit build would it be better for me to use infernus or ghost?

This is for an MG IV

[tall torrent]

Probably headhunter + deadly accurate

Even though mg4 isn’t the best with that set-up, it’s still better dps than Infernus most of the time

[midnight totem]

to add ontop of what numbers is saying, vet doesn't have as good stamina, health, and movespeed as the other classes, especially zealot and ogryn

so you're at a slight disadvantage in melee

[stiff pasture]

Still haven’t found headhunter yet surprisingly

[midnight totem]

and melee, blocking and dodging, is a core part of Darktide, even if you want to be all shooty

its not a matter of if you will be swarmed, its when, and you will have to deal with it

holy shit I can improve my power sword now

[terse idol]

create weapon spec

[terse idol]

😌

[midnight totem]

my last mission dropped me a power sword with brutal momentum 4

[quick steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/zach-galifinakis-hangover-hangover-alan-alan-hairflip-gif-13142173

[raw steppe]

clean gun with just +elites crafted onto it.

be happy i wasted plasteel just for you 😛

[ruby hull]

FATSHARK FIX SILENT FUCKING SPECials

[tall torrent]

They’re on vacation lol

[ruby hull]

well its been a problem for 4 months

[tiny summit]

Must roll for a max dmg, 1-5% stopping power helbore.

[ruby hull]

i want them to come back and fix it NOW

asdfjkajs;ldkjaldkfj alk;dfjakdfajlkdjalda

ive been blown up by at least 13 silent pox bursters just today

[midnight totem]

have you tried getting gud

(I'm kidding)

[frozen meadow]

I just want them to fix the crashes

Been having issues since the anniversary update

[ruby hull]

like i can deal with the spawn door sneak explosions but getting blown up in the middle of the map by an assasin pox burster you never even knew spawned triggers the fuck out of me

[frozen meadow]

I think I am lucky, I have never had silent specials as far as I am aware

[raw steppe]

try reinstalling

i noticed it got worse

after they added sounds for crushers/maulers

it kinda just overrides half the special sounds now :/

kinda wish they made the sounds play only when they spawned

rather than CLANK CLANK constantly drowning out everything else

[trim steppe]

I know they've been good for a long time but argi brauto / antax 5 is just such a winning combo, its hard to put them down

[terse idol]

80 79

Well yeah

is my pgun broken

Or do you have long shot?

[bitter turtle]

Download spidey sense

And set it to burster only

Ur welcome

[cunning holly]

Its called Trauma Staff in Darktide. On a freak

[hollow ibex]

tried that mod, actually feels like cheating lol

[buoyant axle]

i like the lasguns with the bayonet . should I be charging it up all the time or only for tough enemies

[buoyant axle]

i got the bayonet gun so i don't need to shoot that much 😄

[elder dawn]

what would you swap on this? just dropped from a run

[torpid sundial]

stopping power at 63% is kinda eeehhh

[terse idol]

Depends

The bayonett is incrediible

But yeah

I mean you should be charging when you need it

[quick steeple]

charging FORWARD INTO BATTLE you mean

[tiny summit]

not my million dmg but I'll take 200 specials

[terse idol]

imo not an easyanswerr but I gotta ask @buoyant axle
can yooou one shot gunners without charging?

as in regular gunners

Everything else you should charge for sho'

[tiny summit]

you mean the riflemen?

[terse idol]

yeah

[junior needle]

The stopping power is meh but if you want to try the gun out, switch reassuringly accurate for either ghost (ideally if doing deadshot/dnd) or dumdum and weak spot damage for something. Crit chance, flak, maniac all options.

[alpine elk]

guys which of the two chainsword is better?

[torpid sundial]

scam

[tiny summit]

they can, mk2 at 80 can 1 tap the green eyed riflemen

w/o any talents

[alpine elk]

oh emperor i dont want to make a crit build

[torpid sundial]

nice.

[surreal wren]

How do I properly use the power sword mk 3? I don't understand how to safely charge the attack when facing a massive swarm when needing to charge it up. I get pushed back too far with my dodges and run out of room often.

[cunning holly]

simple, you dont)

Though you can try pushing first, or using the VOICE'

FusRoDah can give you some room to charge, but that depends

[hollow ibex]

block cancel should work on ps3 too

can't rely on dodges with ps

[tiny summit]

mk1 and mk2 can 1 tap green eyed riflemen at grey and no talents with 80dmg and 70+ stopping power, mk3 can 1 tap green eyed riflemen and the other flak headed riflemen. All 3 fail at 1 tapping unarmored dreg riflemen without charge. They all cross into uncharged 1 tap territory with precision strikes (30%)

[bitter turtle]

Do you have power cycler

[buoyant axle]

nah i have to charge up

[bitter turtle]

You should be gaining way more space than u lose with a back dodge to charge

Also use mk6

[swift ingot]

It’s a plasma gun that I renamed and customized via mods

[surreal wren]

Yes I do. Just rolled it!

[wicked gate]

https://gyazo.com/534fbb9affe60fed449d7495eeed89d5

is this worth it?

[tiny summit]

Unoptimal stat rolls. Worth using if you don't have chainaxes or want either blessing to harvest later

[wicked gate]

Shit

[raw steppe]

Yep grab it

2 blessings you don't have

[hollow ibex]

but you can only trade it for one blessing anyway right?

[tiny summit]

Yea

[serene bough]

is this devilclaw good

[hollow ibex]

it's ok

iv still has better moves though

[terse idol]

Its perfectly fine yeah

But yes sirosky is right

[round jetty]

give the ogryn a las cannon

[terse idol]

If you like it you like it

[buoyant axle]

keep volley fire active active for 20 seconds

how does that work

[tall torrent]

Take executioner’s stance
Take the 2 talents in the middle (killing highlighter target refreshes duration, mark all shooters in highlight”

Then just keep shooting highlighted enemies

[buoyant axle]

ah ok

[misty wedge]

my fellas

lv 30 vet and i am having trouble killing the twins

what am i doing wong

[tiny summit]

Very broad ask. What's the build and your weapons? I've brought VoC w/ Columnus IAG and done fine

[misty wedge]

not up to date with terms but

[gray finch]

dont play vet on twins

[misty wedge]

lemme get a screenshot

[misty wedge]

but what if i do it anyways

[gray finch]

then find a good zealot friend that will carry you

[low oar]

Vet VoC is fine on twins and upgrading the ammo/health pack is useful

[tacit sonnet]

The only reason to use vet is for that talent improving health kits

[low oar]

Also damage increases from focus fire

[misty wedge]

shovel is a gag but my main damage is the revolver

[tacit sonnet]

Number 1, stop using Only in Death Does Duty End

It's shit

[tiny summit]

Uh. Revolver is an "interesting" choice for a boss fight imo

[misty wedge]

ok

[misty wedge]

what would u bring

[tacit sonnet]

Just get an autogun honestly

[misty wedge]

recon?

[gray finch]

take any autogun to this boss fight

[tacit sonnet]

Jeez fuck no

[misty wedge]

o

[tacit sonnet]

Literally one of the worst guns vet has

Columnus infantry is your best choice right now

[jolly phoenix]

cant find a group for HM twins

[tacit sonnet]

Agripinaa I think is not that bad

[misty wedge]

ok

got my autogun to god

gold

[tacit sonnet]

I play with recon VId on damnation pretty successfully, but it requires a super specific build and even then it's bad

[gray finch]

you can go with a gray autogun really

[tacit sonnet]

And for twins recon is a bad choice always

[gray finch]

and brace autogun

not the burst one

[low oar]

The patch 13 period of recon dominance was certainly a ride

[tacit sonnet]

Recon weren't overpowered

They dominated because these guns ARE FUN

[misty wedge]

so i can just run columnus

[tall torrent]

@tacit sonnet thx for the help last night I'm playing ultra low texture 1080p now and it's glorious

[misty wedge]

with what tree?

[tacit sonnet]

They prob needed a slight nerf to ammo, that's it

[low oar]

Eh. The lack of recoil makes them feel weird to me tbh

[tacit sonnet]

Right now recons have no damage, no range, no ammo, no infernus, NOTHING

[tiny summit]

You're fighting the twins, not like you need more ammo

[misty wedge]

i just pray for a 3 orgn party

[tiny summit]

It turns poxwalkers into pretty lights

[tacit sonnet]

Doesn't kill anything tho

My birthday is in 9 days and I'm going to wish for recons to get even a slight buff so they can be at least somewhat relevant

please fatshark

[low oar]

I want nerfs

[tiny summit]

Feel free to also go for frags too. And give up a few things. Frags stagger is good. I just went down the middle

[low oar]

To a bunch of shit

[tacit sonnet]

plasma needs a nerf for sure

[low oar]

Smite needs a rework, survivalist just needs to be removed and ammo economy reworked

[tacit sonnet]

I will never understand who the fuck thought that plasma was weak and needed infinite penetration

[low oar]

Plasma was definitely struggling after patch 13

[tacit sonnet]

smite is ok, survivalist is ok, other auras are just shit

[misty wedge]

wish me luck boys on que now

[low oar]

Ngl that was me on the forums

[alpine elk]

guys do I need good blessings to make the plasma rifle good?

[wraith vault]

Anyone know how to fix the Plasma Gun not showing the muzzle flash randomly yet?

[misty wedge]

doing this bit on damnation

[low oar]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/plasma-needs-a-lot-of-love-as-of-patch-13/83708?page=2

🙂

[tiny summit]

Plasma is good and will be better with blessings

[low oar]

I only asked for like one of the changes tbh

[alpine elk]

like does it make a huge difference like brutal momentum on axes or is it a nice addition

[terse idol]

It helps for sure

[tacit sonnet]

Plasma really needs a nerf

[alpine elk]

fatshark ate my zealot so ill need lotta more resource for my new zealot

[tacit sonnet]

It's way stronger than any other gun

[terse idol]

@raw steppe did you have long shot on?

[low oar]

Yeah they overbuffed it

[misty wedge]

adios boys

[tiny summit]

It won't be kneecapped w/o it's dmg blessings but it gets better

[terse idol]

I mean uhhh

[alpine elk]

how is this plasma gun

[tiny summit]

Like having glory hunter on plasma isn't bricking it

[low oar]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/plasma-needs-some-slight-nerfs-to-cleave/90110/42

Also me. Truly the dichotomy of man

[terse idol]

Pretty okay

[tiny summit]

Good. Roll it

[terse idol]

Low TR is gonna hurt abit

So will ammo but do iit

[tacit sonnet]

Fucking recons struggling to kill 3 shotgunners and then there's plasma killing 14 shotgunners in 0.00000012351 seconds in one shot

[terse idol]

62 ammo is fine actually

[terse idol]

Well

[alpine elk]

or i have this

[elder dawn]

reject plasma embrace revolver vet

[terse idol]

You cant compare the worst gun

Recon

To plasma

[alpine elk]

i just brought like 20 plasma

[terse idol]

Its closer to compare like revolver and plasma

Like, Infantry lasgun can snipe 15 gunners before recon can catch 3

Probably

[tacit sonnet]

Veteran has recons and veteran has plasma, I can choose any therefore I will compare the 2

[low oar]

I think the best nerf is to tighten the accuracy for uncharged shots, destroy the cleave on uncharged, and keep charged shots the way it is in terms of cleave

[terse idol]

Impossible

https://tenor.com/view/giygas-cat-melon-cat-psychotic-gif-25770926

[tacit sonnet]

You saying it's not fair to compare these 2 because of power difference just shows how fucking unbalanced these 2 guns are

[low oar]

Charged shots are dumb and should be the pinnacle of plasma power but they're just a joke to blow you up

[terse idol]

Its not fair because

[alpine elk]

so which of these two is better

[tall torrent]

this is glorious

[terse idol]

You can do it with revolver and recon

[tiny summit]

It's draw time, cleave on tap fire is overtuned. Plasma should feel strong. It should also cost to use.

[terse idol]

You can pick any two guns

And compare with recon

And it'll win

[low oar]

First

[terse idol]

That's why I'm saying pgun and revolver is the closer comparison

[alpine elk]

ok

[low oar]

A second recon

[terse idol]

Wjth revolver having less ammo

[tacit sonnet]

well, recon is not THE WORST gun, but it's close

[tiny summit]

The first. Charging atm is mostly unnecessary

[terse idol]

Which is the worse

Shredder pistol?

[tacit sonnet]

nah

[terse idol]

honestly think it's better still

[low oar]

Shredded is still good

[jolly hemlock]

no

[terse idol]

[alpine elk]

was hadron nice

[tacit sonnet]

lawbringer for sure is much worse

[terse idol]

Waxk

Wack

At least it can destroy a mutant

And waves

[low oar]

The lawbtinger can actually kill though

[terse idol]

Lawbringer is gooe

[low oar]

And has more useful perks

[tall torrent]

yes u got the 2 best blessings

[terse idol]

Especially if you run weapon spec

[low oar]

No respite is great

[alpine elk]

ok nice

[tall torrent]

lawbringer is actually not bad now

[tacit sonnet]

I very succsessfuly play with recon VId on auric damnation and maelstrom, so definetely not the weakest, but it requires way too much from me in terms of skill and build

[alpine elk]

should i replace reload speed with something?

[terse idol]

I mean like ahhhhhhhhh

Yeah you do you

[low oar]

Weapon spec on an agrippina shotgun has been really fun for a Frontline tanky vet

[tiny summit]

Yes.

[terse idol]

I wouldn't advocate recon but if it's performing well for you that's good

[tacit sonnet]

Recons suck

[alpine elk]

what do i replace 10% reload speed with then?

[terse idol]

I just cannot in good faith advocate to nerf a weapon because of a comparison between one of the bad guns and the one of the best guns

[terse idol]

Unarmoured

[low oar]

Nerf recons

[alpine elk]

i am so darn poor

[tacit sonnet]

But actually if you get a combat stim, that gives you a total of 75% rending which allows you to melt bosses very nicely

[tiny summit]

Idk. Go into the psyk and see if you can 1 tap scab or dreg gunners

[alpine elk]

kay thx

[terse idol]

But also yes

Sprinkles is right

because the key to leeaarning

[tacit sonnet]

plasma is years ahead in terms of power compared to ANY GUN

[terse idol]

Is actually testing out your BP's

[terse idol]

I mean

Columnus IAG is close

If it killed crushers any faster I'd argue its like

[tacit sonnet]

columnus is very strong,

[terse idol]

Lretty close

[misty wedge]

lol we ded

[tacit sonnet]

But it's not plasma level very strong

[terse idol]

And columnus let's you freely dump into hordes

[low oar]

Columunus is probably more OP since it's on every class minus ogryn

[terse idol]

Pound for pound it's close

Pgun probably wins for range

[alpine elk]

with no talent it doesnt one shot any elite on light headshot

[terse idol]

But columnus destroys anything close

[terse idol]

Take uhhhhhhhh

[alpine elk]

am i aiming to one shot gunners n those on bodyshots?

or headshots

[terse idol]

Elite damage

[low oar]

Get maniac or flak. There's like two unarmored specials

[tacit sonnet]

plasma destroys everything anywhere even behind shields and some walls

[terse idol]

And weakpoint damage

In your talents

Then try to one tap the dredge gunner

[tall torrent]

no, headshot

[terse idol]

Oh no yeah headshots

[alpine elk]

i one shot them if i take any damage boost on my talent trees i think

[tall torrent]

this game wants u to headshot everything if it could

[terse idol]

Yeah

[low oar]

Exec stance is great on plasma

Damage boost and wall hacks are fun combo

[terse idol]

Hmm

True

Haven't tried it

But it seems fun

[low oar]

Piercing walls and having wall hacks lets you just spam a door and directly nail specials

It's a fun time

I really don't know why everyone shits on exec stance

[terse idol]

I always love shooting into the ceiling and killing a bomber standing there

[misty wedge]

alr

i give up with vet on this

[terse idol]

Its aight

[misty wedge]

im gonna go level up zealot

[low oar]

The wall hacks help a ton to abuse the wall bang part of plasma

[tiny summit]

Because VoC is simple and good. I like exe more though

[terse idol]

I prefer VOC for blasma

Because funny toughness

[low oar]

I'd rather use exec stance to abuse wall bangs tbh

[alpine elk]

ill need +unarmored if i want to one shot that one type of gunner if I take both weaspot damage and elite damage

[tiny summit]

I just like exe helbore

[terse idol]

Different play styles is okie

[tiny summit]

Plasma bores me atm

[alpine elk]

but everything else one shot headshot is fine

[terse idol]

So you took weakspot damage and elites?

Good goood

Yeah

I mean Dis was saying you could meet it with 10% elites

[low oar]

Dreg gunner is unarmored except for chest, and the scab gunner is flak iirc

[terse idol]

But he hasn't confirmed if he was using long shot

[tiny summit]

There's your answer then. Unarmored unless you're more worried about ragers. But deleting gunners is always nice

[terse idol]

You have a good pgun blessings you could try

To change to + elites

Then swap fo + unarmoured

[alpine elk]

do i want the 20% vs carapace

[tiny summit]

That too. Longshot can kick in

[terse idol]

Not really imo

My quick testing is

You still kill crushers with 4 shots on left click with no crits

Even with crusher

I mean

Yeah even with carapace

Without longshot

[tiny summit]

That carapace may save you a shot or 2 while shooting at crushers with team damage

[terse idol]

All my tests is without longshot😌

[terse idol]

Its very cloose

[alpine elk]

ill go unarmored for convenience then test out in a real game then

[terse idol]

Yes in the vacuum of the psykanarium, without crits it's consistent 4 shots, maybe with Cara you can bump it to 3

But its very close

[alpine elk]

good purple keystone to go with it? i barely use purple keystone on vet

apart from occasional middle

[tiny summit]

Middle

[low oar]

Focus fire

The other two just don't make sense

[tiny summit]

Unless you want to be weapon specialist gaming to avoid manual reload

[low oar]

Unless you want a really weird swap build with plasma

[tiny summit]

Plasma will gloryhunter, ET, CK, MF, tunnel vision

All the toughness off headshot elite/special

[trim steppe]

Ya hate to see it lol

[tiny summit]

[alpine elk]

any reason to not use power cycler 3 power sword with the plasma gun?

4*

[terse idol]

No

[trim steppe]

Nope

[terse idol]

They are the strongest weapons in the game

[trim steppe]

Its a winning combo

[terse idol]

Besides the Rashad

For melee

[wanton dawn]

You can put ps pc4 on any vet build and it will work

[terse idol]

Gonna preface it and say
Uh, for your psword you're gonna want to get Power Cycler (4) and brutal momentum (3)

[tiny summit]

PS PC4 just works. Only reason you wouldn't use it is if you wanted a weapon w/o any setup while giving up its absurdity

Sunder enjoyer

[wanton dawn]

Sunder is more slap-and-forget than bm

[alpine elk]

alright this is my first time using the plasma gun since they buffed it that it takes venting damage from toughness

i shall triumph

[terse idol]

Its hard to give up BM doe no? Since cleave

[tiny summit]

I'm using a power sword to energize it. So I'm gonna energize it

[trim steppe]

Woah, that was a while ago. Its a lot lot stronger now, have fun lol

[terse idol]

Did they buff it anymore?

I swear

[alpine elk]

i rememebr when the buff came out everyone also called the plasma gun powerful

[terse idol]

It felt the same

[wanton dawn]

Sunder is better at cleaving in general. Bm is better at killing while cleaving

[terse idol]

And then they fixed the left click bug

[trim steppe]

They've just tuned in up and fixed the bugs and gave it infinite cleave

[terse idol]

Its not infinite iirc

[tiny summit]

Plasma so strong, you have to be ignorant with ammo and targets to worry about ammo. So strong, it just answers most problems in a run

[terse idol]

You can't pen 9 maulers

[trim steppe]

Well, enough for practical purposes

[terse idol]

But you can pen 8

Or something

Yeah fair

[wanton dawn]

Sunder would be worse than bm if it werent for the fact than charged ps stagger

[alpine elk]

should i use plasma on monster or wack it with my shining sword

[wanton dawn]

6 on normal shot. 14 on charged

[alpine elk]

well, glowing

[terse idol]

You have blaze it

[wanton dawn]

Through flak body

[terse idol]

So you wanna blast alot

Left click ooonly

[wanton dawn]

Without blaze active

[alpine elk]

alr

[trim steppe]

plasma does good damage on monsters but it eats ammo, either works just manage your resources

[wanton dawn]

Plasma is serviciable on monster with unyielding and if you can hit weakspot

Otherwise switch to melee

[torpid sundial]

I wanna make recon work

As best as it can do at least

[wanton dawn]

Ps can have unyielding. Very good against monstro that are not BoN

[vivid current]

I was about to say it should get buffed, then I realize I play casually on damnation and it already does pretty good work against monstrocities and crushers.

[wanton dawn]

Serviciable against BoN

[trim steppe]

You can make it work, it just does the worst damage in the game so its not worth it except for the memes

[torpid sundial]

But its so fun to spam

When buff

[tiny summit]

you can, need onslaught in your tree though

[wanton dawn]

Recon is fun ?

[tiny summit]

yes holding down the trigger can be fun with pretty lights

[trim steppe]

Like I can clear HIST dam with recon, it just isnt fun for me to tickle everything to death. The recons should be fun

[wanton dawn]

I find it the most boring gun across all classes

[torpid sundial]

I like laser guns in general

And the super high fire rate

With no recoil

Also tried all other gun types already so

[trim steppe]

They had a glorious shining moment for 2 weeks in patch 13 when they performing on par with their coolness factor, then FS noticed people having fun with them and killed them

[tiny summit]

which is so weird with all the other overtuned stuff in the game

[wanton dawn]

Aka the "best" gun when vet was at is weakest

[trim steppe]

I'd say the recon then and the bolter now perform about the same. Pretty solidly but nothing like fresh buff kickback lol

[muted knot]

whats the best blessings for the MK12 and Mk 4 lasguns ?

[trim steppe]

probably headhunter and deadly accurate

[tiny summit]

disgusting do not compare the holy bolter to a glorified flashlight pisser

[trim steppe]

Hey, it was what it was. The flashlight pisser is in the toilet now.

[tacit sonnet]

nah, both are ass

[terse idol]

Bolter can actually mag dump delete bosses

Recon just gives them a beauty salon treatment

[tiny summit]

theres also 1a. XII kinda got power crept with the others dmg buffs

[tacit sonnet]

currently, didn't notice you were talking about I guess patch 13 recon.

[terse idol]

The Ia literally just has 30-40 damage less than the MXII
But the Ia fires twice as fast

[tiny summit]

XII isnt bad, its just for its fire rate the others have definitely caught up

[trim steppe]

But patch 13 recon was about the same as current bolter, is what im saying. Neither were/are crazy op just really solid

[serene bough]

Headhunter

DA for 1a for mg4 I use Ghost

[terse idol]

I do prefer the MXII for now doe

Because the slower fire rate helps makes shots easier

[serene bough]

I mean

[tiny summit]

accuracy by volume

[terse idol]

It could stand to do like 100 more damage

[muted knot]

Full auto mod go brrrrrr

[serene bough]

You dont have to always fire at the full rate for mg4 or mg1a

[muted knot]

Is the server bad again ?

[serene bough]

Only gotta spam fire monkey mode for those close range/hip fire encounters

[terse idol]

I guess they do have to be careful

When the longlas releases

[tiny summit]

still funny they made helbores full auto because you can hold down the trigger indefinitely to keep shooting and the infantry lasguns are semi

[terse idol]

I thought you could only do that with the full auto mod

[wanton dawn]

Well, i could play bolter but i am allergic to bottom left

[tiny summit]

nope

[terse idol]

To get repeated charges

Ooh

Helbore like broke my finger cause I was holding down left click so much

And releasing

[tiny summit]

you'll start a new charge if you hold down the trigger until it times out

[tacit sonnet]

Wasn't bolter nerfed even earlier? I remember bolter being able to delete groups or crushers

[wanton dawn]

Nope, bolter got shafted patch 13

[serene bough]

Bolter hasn't recovered since the pinning fire nerf

[idle carbon]

just so I'm not giving out bad information, does anyone know if it's a deliberate choice that you can't upgrade your starter weapons?

[tacit sonnet]

you can't?

[tiny summit]

does fatshark want a horde shooter through overwhelming volume or overwhelming combination of the enemy cast?

[idle carbon]

nope, can't upgrade your 85 rating starter weapons

[wanton dawn]

... doubt

[tacit sonnet]

I think most people trash those way before you even unlock hadron

[idle carbon]

I've got my game open, in hadron, and they just don't appear there

if I use DirectToHadron mod, it doesn't even bring it up

[wanton dawn]

Smell like spaghet.

Probably a default template weapon

[idle carbon]

it feels like a deliberate choice to not let you, in any case

[wanton dawn]

Nah. More like a "nobody care" one

[idle carbon]

fair

[wanton dawn]

Probably some spaghet somewhere that you cant be bothered to fix

[terse idol]

Its probably for the best

All I can say is, after trying to carry a level 3 with my Burst fire vraks

On my level 6 vet

Oh my god those weapons SUCK

I wouldn't be suprised if FS actually didn't want people to upgrade those

[wanton dawn]

Breaking news: new red exploit involve crafting t4 on starting vet class (no clickbait)

Hit the bell

Subscribe

[tacit sonnet]

When red wepon

[mortal frost]

Red when ded

[wanton dawn]

Smash like, comment, patreon, message from our sponsor, "watsup gamer"

[torpid sundial]

Yeah and it’ll cost 2k plasteel to upgrade from yellow to red

[wanton dawn]

I wanna puke now

[torpid sundial]

And only 100 diam

[vernal harbor]

honest to god can anyone say that pc4 power sword isnt the end all for vet melee

i been trying but i cant beat it

give me that forro

ill treat it right

[wanton dawn]

Azreal says combat axe

[vernal harbor]

is it tho

because wide cleave stagger is so good

[terse idol]

Yeah

[serene bough]

Only thing I can't stand is its dodge distance

[terse idol]

Its tjat

[wanton dawn]

It is what he says

[vernal harbor]

axes are mostly single target right?

[terse idol]

It can instantly delete the hordes

[vernal harbor]

oooo

[terse idol]

Its just left clifk

You know hoe psword

You need power cycler

[wanton dawn]

I keep my opinion for myself on the matter

[terse idol]

You need BM with rashad

And you get

[vernal harbor]

so can this.

[terse idol]

Pretty insane horde clear

[vernal harbor]

ill pray for a bm

i have no axe blessings

[terse idol]

Well you need headtaker, BM, and unarmoured

[wanton dawn]

Still, can caxe handle 30 ragers ? I dont think so

[vernal harbor]

powersword can

[wanton dawn]

Sure can

Leveling a zealot rn: rager are more threatening

[vernal harbor]

i havent been scared of maulers or ragers in forever until i played with my power sword

instant ass whopping

thye be scary af

[tranquil bronze]

I guess this is gonna be with me for a while

[vernal harbor]

lasgun enjoyer 🤝

[wanton dawn]

Hm ? Are you mixing up negation ?

[vernal harbor]

powersword staggers them easily

[tranquil bronze]

It just works

[wanton dawn]

"since", not "until"

[tranquil bronze]

What are the recommended perks for caxe?

[wanton dawn]

Unarmored for sure. I dont remember 2nd

[tranquil bronze]

Not flak?

[wanton dawn]

Probably, but i dont think it is warranted

[terse idol]

If we're talking of rashad uh

[tranquil bronze]

Yeah I use a rashad

[terse idol]

unarmoured, maybe maniac?

Do yiy have the blessings l?

[tranquil bronze]

I got it off the store so I plan on building on this

[terse idol]

Unyielding may work

Ohh

But

[tranquil bronze]

I plan on changing the perk

[terse idol]

You need 70 minimum in all damage stats

[tranquil bronze]

Ah

[terse idol]

First strike dump isn't good enough sadly

Certainly test it but it's gonna hurt

[tranquil bronze]

Well at least my MG Ia is good

So I just gotta find a better rashad

[flint garden]

54 first target

[alpine elk]

ok what the world

the plasma rifle is so op

[terse idol]

😌

[alpine elk]

so much stronger than i last used it

[swift ingot]

Jurgen cosplay

[alpine elk]

outside of killing everything, its ammo efficiency is also crazy

[swift ingot]

My dream has almost come true

[alpine elk]

but not because it doesnt run otu of ammo

but because it makes it that your teammate have nothing to shoot at

so you can get all the ammo pickup

[alpine elk]

not enough skin disease

[kind otter]

I started using plasma since zarona revolver felt too OP. Jokes on me it's a zarona with an extended mag

[swift ingot]

That’s partly why I said almost come true

[alpine elk]

and infinitely more spammable

and no headshot needed

[vocal cipher]

where did you find a meltagun?

[swift ingot]

Hadron gave it to me after I did her some favors

In reality it’s a plasma gun that’s been renamed and customized via mods

[wanton dawn]

Plasma is good enough that you can make it work at top diff with subpar builds

"No, born leader is not required"

"No, rending strike is not required"

"No, ofb+ck+exhil is not required"

[carmine bronze]

wait wait wait

how you have a melta gun

XD

[vocal cipher]

mod

[swift ingot]

@carmine bronze