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#veteran-class
quick steeple
wait
torn root
alcohol is not a good thing
torpid sundial
rending or bring it down for infantry lasgun 🤔
quick steeple
with focus
torpid sundial
torn root
with focus
i just want to test damage without keystones
im weird but i like raw tests
without them
quick steeple
whats the col got on it
torn root
quick steeple
nah makes sense
torn root
i dont think anything but dumdum makes sense [is needed]
quick steeple
i dont think anything but dumdum makes sense [is needed]
iirc, you may get faster ttks on those with recoil reset burst ala sustained fire
vs perma trigger
torn root
iirc, you may get faster ttks on those with recoil reset burst ala sustained fir...
sustained fire past the 1st burst whould only be used once
its slower ttk to reset it
more ammo efficient tho
it just exists for the small 'pop' it gives
quick steeple
sustained fire past the 1st burst whould only be used once
thats where i think focus flips it over
looking for it 1 min
torn root
silent enemies still bein an issue what
fatsharks are fat
ivory rock
havin a dog ninja under my ass and pounce on me while my team gets downed is fun
celest vine
Fartshart when game issues
torn root
thats where i think focus flips it over
i took redirect so my crusher pack killing should be goo
quick steeple
i took redirect so my crusher pack killing should be goo
redirect instead of rend?
torn root
both
im a bot but its not bad
also a bit intoxicated
i could have swapped to the PSword
i like it
quick steeple
if you werent such a bad shot id say throw precision strikes in there with how flat accurate it i but.... bot
torn root
if you werent such a bad shot id say throw precision strikes in there with how f...
big ol bot atm
shooting straight is a no go for about 30 more mins
quick steeple
these poor scrap parts never stood a chance lol
torn root
these poor scrap parts never stood a chance lol
wait
its high stats
get it to purple!
quick steeple
stopping power
sour prairie
these poor scrap parts never stood a chance lol
76 76
quick steeple
getting warmer... idk why they are all rolling the same way lol
radiant linden
Nvm I read wrong 
quick steeple
BETTER....
torn root
holy shit
THE NUTS!
btw someone explain how this redirect fire shit works
the exploit is only with 8 stacks?
quick steeple
if you focus 2 then 3 stacks and kill before expiration, they add to 5 and refresh
if you kill another focus at 8 with 1 stack applied it refreshes at 8
torn root
oh okay
so im not even gunna bother get the 8 stacks
imma keep just target down and redirect fire
27.5% damage aint bad
quick steeple
imma keep just target down and redirect fire
you'll have 8 between any engagements ez
then its just upkeep
torn root
unless i wanna give up rending that's a no sir
quick steeple
i forget if another vet's focus refreshes your stacks independently or not
torn root
never banking ont hat
on*
i know at one point as long as i focused a target that had another vets it did give me my Targetdown with more stacks
so maybe
but there was an update between then and now
quick steeple
i know at one point as long as i focused a target that had another vets it did g...
i mean if the other vet procs 8 on you but you have 5, im curious if you can keep refreshing the 8
havent actually paid attention to that specific interaction
brazen bay
well this is a new one, there is a bunche of ogryns having sex rp in the mourningstar chat
the early morning hours are weird
torn root
thankyou for making me want to burn out my retina
brazen bay
oh god they are bringing scat play into it
torn root
im guna ahve to block you if you keep it up
leave them be!
i DONT need to know this shit
lmao
brazen bay
its like a car wreck I cant look away from
barren cave
what blessings to run on mk7 shovel?
quick steeple
turdslinger IV
torpid sundial
okay I like the infantry lasgun its pretty nice as a generalist kind of gun
untold mulch
Flak damage is a pain in the ass though
Though Maulers are the biggest issue if you aim at heads
umbral scaffold
True power is using the auto click mod with any of the normal lasguns
Helps a LOT so you don't hurt your left finger a lot from the spamming
old fog
why is the veteran the class that has the worst payed cosmetics? is it just me or???
umbral scaffold
But otherwise ye it's pretty good
Not the best but it's a solid weapon that basically never runs out of ammo
umbral scaffold
why is the veteran the class that has the worst payed cosmetics? is it just me o...
It has some good ones but they haven't given any stormtrooper/kasrkin ones yet so
untold mulch
why is the veteran the class that has the worst payed cosmetics? is it just me o...
Fatshark doesn't want out money
untold mulch
Ye
old fog
because i was going through all of them
and i noticed the fucking STYLE the other classes have
my god
this is like so funny to me as a cosmetic
goofy but in lore shit for the veteran like this
umbral scaffold
I still think it's funny zealot gets the sniper mask hoodie drip
old fog
I still think it's funny zealot gets the sniper mask hoodie drip
yeah xd
merry gale
old fog
i'm getting on the grind, i've been playing non stop for a week
umbral scaffold
Sienna is a necromancer
And Kruber is a grail knight
Give me sister of battle xc
old fog
this is good
old fog
Sienna is a necromancer
And Kruber is a grail knight
Give me sister of battle xc
sister of battle would be fucking badass
i play them in gladius
umbral scaffold
i'm getting on the grind, i've been playing non stop for a week
Same
Just enjoying the last few free days before normal life
merry gale
umbral scaffold
i play them in gladius
Good game
And same
old fog
Same
Just enjoying the last few free days before normal life
ahahah
umbral scaffold
I just want the sisters drip
Wouldn't even need new weapons technically
Just take some of the vet stuff and the zealot stuf and combine them with new talents
old fog
20€ for me isn't cheap but i was really really anticipating this game since before it launched, but never bothered to buy it as it had poor performance/buggy and wasn't cheap
merry gale
you can look ok with just comissary items
umbral scaffold
Release was pretty boring anyway so you didn't miss much
old fog
there's definitely some ways to be a stylish veteran
umbral scaffold
I got 100+ hours on release before I got bored
Game is in a much much better state now
old fog
yes the game seems to lack endgame
merry gale
umbral scaffold
Original issues was variation on how to play+ endgame
old fog
the feeling of weapons is what's great for me
umbral scaffold
Now it's just end game issues atm
old fog
i see
umbral scaffold
And end game as in
"end game item grind"
Auric Damnation/Maelstrom is fantastic for actually making the gameplay finally feel good
Because you avoid a lot of the "nothing's happening" the original release builds had
strange sparrow
The game has become pretty stale for me atm
near sable
Zoomerbrain
strange sparrow
Nothing really challenging except Karnak hm
umbral scaffold
The game has become pretty stale for me atm
Happens
That's why when I get bored I run auric solo
merry gale
all you vet should dress like this
umbral scaffold
But I stave off boredom by changing weapons atm
old fog
i haven't tested other classes yet so i still have a lot to play
umbral scaffold
Have fun
It's great
strange sparrow
I played 3 class and reach 100 games each
old fog
ogryn seems great for someone that knows what he's doing
strange sparrow
Most of the kit depend on your play style
old fog
i fucking hate ogryns that have the iq of a fucking watermelon
umbral scaffold
Zealot lets you do a lot of plays in general
old fog
and block vision when i need to kill every elites
near sable
Ogryn spewing 1500 damage guaranteed crits with 40% remding
umbral scaffold
Ogryns and Psyker reward knowing mechanics the best
old fog
shout seem good
old fog
i'm watching tanner's videos right now
umbral scaffold
Ye but psyker shout doesn't give overheal
In Auric damage isn't usually the issue
It's not dying to random shit lul
strange sparrow
Without Shout Veteran have a hard time but then there’s power sword
Psyker have 9 seconds CC stun lock
umbral scaffold
Psyker and veteran are master class in that regard because of their sheer utility
strange sparrow
Which is busted
umbral scaffold
Veteran has overheal and good consistency
And gives the team ammo so you don't hemmorage dealing with specials
eternal sable
finally
umbral scaffold
And Psyker has a lot of bullshit that change up how you deal with stuff that can just wipe you
umbral scaffold
Psyker is probably my favorite to play overall
gleaming turtle
reeeeeeeeeee
umbral scaffold
But zealot is better if you just wanna go ham imho
umbral scaffold
It is easily my favorite lul ye
strange sparrow
Psword give brain rot
eternal sable
i have 1600 hours and i havn't leveled psyker to 30
near sable
umbral scaffold
Low durability
Team sucks
strange sparrow
Psyker with assail just power level fast imo
umbral scaffold
In Auric though
Good stuff
gleaming turtle
once i get all psyker penence
Mission: 92%? I am thinking you are gonna be in pain if you are missing the missions I think you are.
old fog
what's MMT
eternal sable
i dont like the repair lol
im in no rush for the penance frames
eventually fs will add more repair missions
gleaming turtle
It's a mod that allows you to save missions on the board for 24 hours, and allows you to do them as many times as you want in that time period via a command.
old fog
It's a mod that allows you to save missions on the board for 24 hours, and allow...
interesting
near sable
my teammates enjoying themselves, fighting the horde when the little blue circle appears at their feet
eternal sable
yeah man
gleaming turtle
old fog
so btw, is fatshark ok with mods? because mods seem to be pretty deep in terms of functionnality
old fog
i'm not complaining tho i love them
eternal sable
it never lets me queue solo wtf
gleaming turtle
Are you doing private?
eternal sable
hmm
gleaming turtle
If you are, that's the problem.
eternal sable
i have private off
eternal sable
ugh maybe
sharp ember
so btw, is fatshark ok with mods? because mods seem to be pretty deep in terms o...
they are greenlit as long as they do not interfere with other players
eternal sable
anyways im not gonna spam anything but auric t5 for penance
old fog
they are greenlit as long as they do not interfere with other players
because there's mods that can be considered cheating
eternal sable
so thats useless for me regardless
umbral scaffold
Fatshark has people in the modding discords anyways
umbral scaffold
because there's mods that can be considered cheating
Don't use em if they feel like cheating is my rule of thumb
But Fatshark doesn't have issues with it
umbral scaffold
i wonder if there's cheats to get like millions of gold
That would definitely get you banned lul
Only sanctioned mods are basically client side
gleaming turtle
Yeah, Fatshark was pretty straightforward with what is considered going over the line.
umbral scaffold
Aka
Cosmetic stuff for yourself
sharp ember
because there's mods that can be considered cheating
any one in particular or
umbral scaffold
Health bars
quick steeple
i wonder if there's cheats to get like millions of gold
all char data is server side owned/parent so no
umbral scaffold
That's about it
old fog
i've installed the mod to have the crosshair when ADS, which is obviously useful. but tanner was talking about a mod that makes headhunters automatic or something
quick steeple
just ui/stat/cosmetic qol
umbral scaffold
i've installed the mod to have the crosshair when ADS, which is obviously useful...
Not cheating since that would be the same thing as having an auto clicker lul
sharp ember
i've installed the mod to have the crosshair when ADS, which is obviously useful...
oh the autofire mods, those have been greenlit since Vermintide to protect people from carpal tunnel
old fog
yes
umbral scaffold
It's basically mandatory
gusty bison
i've installed the mod to have the crosshair when ADS, which is obviously useful...
Autofire
Thats the mod
gleaming turtle
Yeah, autofire is okay.
old fog
yeah autofire
umbral scaffold
Since some weapons are shitty to use without autofire
quick steeple
its coop pvs so no issues there
gusty bison
It doesnt do anything physically impossible so its fine
umbral scaffold
any normal lasguns
gleaming turtle
What Grawr said.
gusty bison
Always attack first was the automelee mod that got struck down because it was doing stuff that was not physically possible
quick steeple
thats another tier ya
umbral scaffold
Ye that's op
gleaming turtle
It doesn't do any sort of weird action cancels that a macro might be able to do (i.e. the infinite shooting kickback bug), it's just there to keep you from having to click 10,000 times per match.
quick steeple
im happy they greenlit the alt keybinds one, tho i wish it was just native
old fog
Always attack first was the automelee mod that got struck down because it was do...
like striking every 5ms ? this sort of bullshity thing?
gusty bison
Not quite 5 ms but ye
quick steeple
more like autoatk
gusty bison
It was way faster
quick steeple
^
gusty bison
Like it removed all the recovery and delay on attacks
quick steeple
yea
quick steeple
NOT QOL big difference
umbral scaffold
In general
If the mods are on nexus mods and heavily popular
They're probably safe
gusty bison
Which is obviously not possible physically
old fog
Like it removed all the recovery and delay on attacks
oh shit yeah.
umbral scaffold
Tho just be aware that downloading mods gets some people really mad for some reason ool
sharp ember
yeah tool-assisted quickswap to always use the 1st melee swing animation
i saw a psyker using it once
disgusting
gusty bison
oh shit yeah.
Basically an equivalent for ranged would be making the Laspistol shoot every 5ms by absuing quick swaps
old fog
Tho just be aware that downloading mods gets some people really mad for some rea...
oh i know, i mod almost every game i ever touch
quick steeple
Grawr you know if any of the UI ones have an indicator for crit?
gusty bison
Since thr laspistol has an insta swap speed
gusty bison
Grawr you know if any of the UI ones have an indicator for crit?
Dunno
quick steeple
nw ty
gleaming turtle
It should be worth keeping in mind here that I sorta doubt Fatshark is gonna ban you for using a mod that didn't break the rules until they decided it did. Like, did anyone actually get banned for using that mod prior to the ban on it? Afterwards is a different story. Similar to the no shirt mod.
gusty bison
Autofire doesnt
torn root
Tho just be aware that downloading mods gets some people really mad for some rea...
bitches
gusty bison
Autofire just shoots semi auto guns as fast as it would normally allow u to do so
umbral scaffold
It should be worth keeping in mind here that I sorta doubt Fatshark is gonna ban...
Retroactively banning people would look really dumb anyway
gusty bison
And actually is frankly detrimental on most guns
umbral scaffold
having healthbars makes you a cheaterrr
quick steeple
Dunno
i want to be able to track frequency in a few psyker builds when testing easier, unfortunately the death tick overrides on the xhair
gusty bison
Its only useful for MG 4 and Vraks 3 HH i think
torn root
I remember the reddit drama
I wasnt here for that, but thye bitches
umbral scaffold
It's a coop game
torn root
like actually that sounds pathetic
umbral scaffold
If they wanna play with healthbars
torn root
let ppl mod the broken ass game
umbral scaffold
Or have a different iron sight
Not my problem
quick steeple
OMG THE QPs ARE HORRID RN
sharp ember
seeing healthbars doesn’t save you from spending 8 million dockets trying to get a godroll
torn root
but pretty close to cheating imo
you can notice specials and elites you couldnt before
especially behind fire and bulwark phalanxes
sharp ember
but i don’t use healthbars anyway, because only Commandos from Killing Floor should be able to see them, and they’re not in this game yet
gleaming turtle
You wanna talk about something that's actually probably gonna get banned?
quick steeple
yea i dont jive with that level of altering
umbral scaffold
Ye
I used to have them 24/7
But removed it cos I didn't need it most of the time
astral ingot
I dropped healthbars from my mod list
old fog
tbh im about to remove healthbars
i've removed dmg type/numbers personally, so you at least know which enemy you need to kill asap
gleaming turtle
Found Ya! is way, way worse than health bars and so forth.
gusty bison
You wanna talk about something that's actually probably gonna get banned?
Aimbots? :kekrat:
astral ingot
too much visual clutter
old fog
but i don’t use healthbars anyway, because only Commandos from Killing Floor sho...
a fellow killing floor player, nice
torn root
i've removed dmg type/numbers personally, so you at least know which enemy you n...
its still kinda of not right, low key
umbral scaffold
Specially when I could tag anyways
torn root
i get some people want it so they NOTCIE guys, but lowkey fov is a think and awareness should be through a mod
if they banned that mod i wouldnt bat an eye
gleaming turtle
What's it do
It increases targetting range and allows you to see any items that can be targeted (their little icon) by up to 80 meters if you want.
torn root
i can see how it would be a problem
old fog
It increases targetting range and allows you to see any items that can be target...
ok this is way op
torn root
its not like we need it even if it has damage numbers we have psychanum for that
umbral scaffold
It increases targetting range and allows you to see any items that can be target...
Oh lol
I remember people in that healthbars thread actually calling that quality of life lmao
"it's just items they don't reveal enemies anyway"
old fog
map knowledge ffs
umbral scaffold
But they also got really mad at healthbars so
gleaming turtle
The primary reason why people run it is to look for crafting resources BECAUSE it will show you the icon if even a single pixel of it is technically viewable.
torn root
It increases targetting range and allows you to see any items that can be target...
see shit like this
umbral scaffold
Yeah
torn root
It increases targetting range and allows you to see any items that can be target...
this can cause divergent gaemplay
quick steeple
"altering gameplay &/or balance" by definition right there
old fog
The primary reason why people run it is to look for crafting resources BECAUSE i...
this is.. useful shit i want it now.
gleaming turtle
I run it because holy christ does it save me a lot of time.
torn root
knowing what shit is where far away DOES change how you play
quick steeple
this is.. useful shit i want it now.
umbral scaffold
I run it because holy christ does it save me a lot of time.
Funniest part is that in vt2 you could tag items inside chests
gleaming turtle
I know every resource spawn location on every map, so being able to see them before I have to get anywhere near them is such a time saver.
umbral scaffold
So you didn't waste time opening empty chests
old fog
<a:RAB_gitgud:1180050581826572349>
but exploring is so good too
umbral scaffold
Lul
placid portal
Sometimes I miss using exe stance so I can gun down every shooter grunts and know where they are
quick steeple
So you didn't waste time opening empty chests
tbh id classify that as a gameplay decision
untold mulch
Sometimes I miss using exe stance so I can gun down every shooter grunts and kno...
Same
But in my case, Infiltrate saves my ass so much time
placid portal
Shout too good, Stealth is a personal choice and Exe stance is really mixed bag on the weapon you use
torn root
I know every resource spawn location on every map, so being able to see them bef...
yeah but you can see why it IS problematic tho right?
umbral scaffold
Shout is the best
torn root
VoC is a better version of Zealot's chorus
gleaming turtle
yeah but you can see why it IS problematic tho right?
Yeah, but it's the difference between a 22 minute Damnation run and a 30 minute one because I have to run around the entire god damn map.
umbral scaffold
The fact that it enables you to tank bursters and snipers
torn root
cant change my mind
umbral scaffold
Is just overpowered
placid portal
cant change my mind
^^^^
gleaming turtle
Until they ban it, then I am going to keep using it.
umbral scaffold
VoC is a better version of Zealot's chorus
Better 99% of the time I'd say yes
gusty bison
Also for some reason theres people who run aimbots in DT
umbral scaffold
Only time it's not better is if you need a boss or elite wave stunned
torn root
I was a zealot main, and i got dunked on because of a fringe case
placid portal
If you can't aim place your faith in empra to land your shots instead
That's what I do
torn root
zealots apparently shouldnt be able to nuke monsters with guns, like vets, but a bonk hammer 1 shotting a boss is fine
placid portal
Balans
torn root
yeah nerf the 5 second kill instead of the 0.1 sec ttk
placid portal
Veteran just has the weapon that simply deletes problems
torn root
because reasons
umbral scaffold
It's funnier seeing vets game end themselves by accident cos of the plasma heat
torn root
like be honset actually
quick steeple
zealots apparently shouldnt be able to nuke monsters with guns, like vets, but a...
im fine with this one for now, every class currently got a memey good couple pieces but they arent all overlapped in 1 spot
placid portal
It's funnier seeing vets game end themselves by accident cos of the plasma heat
Speaking of that makes me remember I met a guy did that at least thrice in a single mission
torn root
before i brought it up earlier how many ppl knew about the chorus interaction with pinning fire?
umbral scaffold
Gives me nice comfy sienna vibes back when unchaineds used to nuke themselves
gleaming turtle
NGL, I am going to be insanely salty if they put out the 2hand Power Sword and it turns out to be a Zealot weapon because Zealot weapons and 2hand are sort of a theme.
placid portal
I thought it was the psyker but it was a vet
umbral scaffold
Speaking of that makes me remember I met a guy did that at least thrice in a sin...
He was the tactical nuke all along 
umbral scaffold
NGL, I am going to be insanely salty if they put out the 2hand Power Sword and i...
That's what I'm expecting tbh
placid portal
He was the tactical nuke all along <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Nah he blew up all alone in a corner
umbral scaffold
Vets probably just gonna get side arms
gleaming turtle
That's what I'm expecting tbh
I hate the zealot so much it's unreal, lol
placid portal
Oh god
torn root
before i brought it up earlier how many ppl knew about the chorus interaction wi...
matter of fact I doubt any of yall ran into the 3 zealots that were even doing this
umbral scaffold
Usually commissar style 1handed melee
umbral scaffold
Zealot probably gets all the bigger heavy stuff
gleaming turtle
I literally ran 100 Orthus missions just to get the 250 mission penance for him done.
That's how much I hate the Zealot.
umbral scaffold
Nah he blew up all alone in a corner
Lmao
Nice
quick steeple
NGL, I am going to be insanely salty if they put out the 2hand Power Sword and i...
NO. IT WILL BE PSYKER AND ARCLANCE OR I RIOT
umbral scaffold
I literally ran 100 Orthus missions just to get the 250 mission penance for him ...
It's ok when I play psyker I hate zealots too
gleaming turtle
NO. IT WILL BE PSYKER AND ARCLANCE OR I RIOT
There are 2handed psyblades as well, chill.
umbral scaffold
Cos when I queue auric Maelstrom psyker
I get 3 invisible zealots
And it's the melee only maelstrom
torn root
NGL, I am going to be insanely salty if they put out the 2hand Power Sword and i...
they SHOULD get one though
placid portal
Hate it when the zealot ends up in the frontline in a middle of a gunner firing squad and gets downed deep in the gunner corps
torn root
its the melee class
gusty bison
Ah yes. Knife zealot speedrunners
umbral scaffold
I don't often see speed runners thankfully
But I see a lot of the
I'm going invi and now all the aggro is on you
umbral scaffold
Which is not a good spot when there's 9 crushers lmao
placid portal
> I'm going invi and now all the aggro is on you
The good ol classic getting the milk trick
gusty bison
> I'm going invi and now all the aggro is on you
Its revenge for all the pre P13 camo vets
torn root
you get me my plasteel and i will lick them cheeks as im rezzing you
gusty bison
Lel
torn root
100%
placid portal
Classic imperium method
umbral scaffold
Lots of the Guardsmen were those fathers that claimed to get "milk"
Lul
sour prairie
quick steeple
I also see some stealth vets
i run a VOC spec with knife sometimes, never sneakyboi tho
umbral scaffold
Ye it's a bad habit invis users have
Which makes it hard to see when you've got a good one
Or just someone who uses it as a panic button lol
quick steeple
yup, then all they do is spam L1 and wonder why they die
umbral scaffold
Don't forget the part where they post on Reddit about how their team bad
"why are all the bads queuing on aurics smh they just wanna get carried"
invisible zealot with knife
quick steeple
had one yesterday nade the damn DH and die, then proceed to ask what blessing let me block the damn thing for 3mins til it was killed
"Rclick"
placid portal
Tbf Lucius charge speed kinda sluggish enough other weapons can kill elites faster
quick steeple
and NOT binding ping to click
quick steeple
Heretics of the hhighest order
muted knot
anyone got a good revolver build lying around ?
placid portal
PING PING PING PING PING "GET MARKED GET MARKED GET MARKED!!!111111!!" PING PING PINGPIGNGPING
placid portal
anyone got a good revolver build lying around ?
Maniac + Flak/Carapace
Handcannon + Surgical
muted knot
nono
placid portal
Get the Deadshot + Weakpoint with superiority complex and the rest is up to you
placid portal
honestly the only thing you need to get for a revolver build is deadshot and a method to recover stamina
like duck and dive
maybe a bit o' reload if you want like Elite Kill Reload buff
quick steeple
wepspec perk does it for ya too
quick steeple
maybe a bit o' reload if you want like Elite Kill Reload buff
also handles by spec, and keeps crucian up
muted knot
yeah thats what im running right now
placid portal
also handles by spec, and keeps crucian up
wait
Crucian maintains buffs when reloaded by specialist?
Goddamn
placid portal
1 melee Kill = 1 round, 5+ melee kills for 2 rounds reloaded
Really nice compliment for a quick draw revolver goal
but feels so damn good reloading them
placid portal
So what's your Favorite stimms for use for you guys
I like them Blue stims
Health Stims don't count since they taste good in any flavor
muted knot
the ones i jab into my teams ogryn as soon as theres a fight lol
you go big man
like this maybe?
any big problems with this ?
placid portal
Personal choice but I luv me +1 stamina at the first middle path going Close Drill Kill Confirm
Really goes a long way esp on Deadshot
placid portal
NEED MORE STAMINA
quick steeple
get rid of determined/ 10%dr node / swap revive shout for Dutyshout
take 30% weakspot, go down mid tree more for stam/other elite toughness
ideally itd be nice to get more in middle tree to leverage Iron Will & potentially bring it down or rend depending on melee
placid portal
Just gotta tell brunt to add more bits onto the gun
quick steeple
rather than top-left of tree, middle for tough+stam node, then use the keystone for reload/stamina on melee side to regen ez
30%weak will outdo longshot on hc range90% of the time
muted knot
i dont have crucian
placid portal
surgical is imo tad reliable
quick steeple
would let you then take off duck/dive for one of the other 2
quick steeple
whoops im druink lol meant HC
placid portal
Lmao
torn root
need exactly 1 more copy of these exact rolls
torn root
now get that gunner resist
not getting gunner res ore sniper res
i was using them
tride playing without them and i did just about the same
placid portal
Dunno how stamina regen is good
torn root
Dunno how stamina regen is good
stamina regen has always been good... lmao
use use it for shoving and deadshot
quick steeple
its the most starved stam class lol
placid portal
torn root
how is stamina regen NOT good?
torn root
gunner res only means that you cant deal with gunners
at max x3 that 36% faster regen
more deadshot
quick steeple
more deadshot
how many stam bars would 2 put you at... 9?
torn root
im at 12 with my gun out
placid portal
so just use duck dive or target down for instant stamina regen no?
torn root
11 with the sword
quick steeple
im at 12 with my gun out
and your regen is curio + dive?
torn root
so just use duck dive or target down for instant stamina regen no?
that doesnt instantly refill stamina
it gets you some
not all unless you arent killing shit fast enough to require dodging that much
i dont let gunners and snipers live, thats how runs end
torn root
and your regen is curio + dive?
max i can have is 15 stamina but i settled for toughness curio in 3rd slot
ever so slightly less squish
placid portal
I did some dumb math when they said they were changing Stamina drain rate and I think it breaks even per shot stamina drain at 6 stamina and breaks even at drain per sec when you have 8 stamina
quick steeple
not all unless you arent killing shit fast enough to require dodging that much
hot take; you may actually benefit more from spec now than mark
can QS between shots for immediate fresh stam
as needed
torn root
if i wanted the quick path to it i would have to take skirmisher
just eeew
and i dont like the left half of the right bottom
quick steeple
and i dont like the left half of the right bottom
no just right node
torn root
no just right node
skirmisher
is just no eeew
5% more damage after sprinting for 5 seconds
lmao
quick steeple
that bothers me
hmmm
torn root
wonder if conditioning works with deadshot
I would only have 3 points from onslaught talent
quick steeple
yes it does
torn root
unless i give up rending
quick steeple
honestly; you might be able to make due with 1 less stam curio potentially w/ conditioning in there somehow
torn root
so the thing about stamina and deadshot
the more bars you have the slower your stamina% drains
more shots you can fire with the benefit
quick steeple
true
torn root
and the longer you can basically ads
quick steeple
and more restored
wary galleon
average rage quitter in chat
torn root
average bad player looking for an argument to blame team mates?
wary galleon
average bad player looking for an argument to blame team mates?
meanwhile he had the lowest stats
gusty bison
Bolter isnt even bad lmao
wary galleon
i mean its not meta, but not bad
gusty bison
And I assume Sieglind wasnt mag dumping poxwalkers
torn root
meanwhile he had the lowest stats <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
if he is not being a scoreboard warrior i dont care about stats
wary galleon
nah he was a zealot an the team was very good at sharing ammo
torn root
hope that shit gets banned so ppl can focus more on gameplay
umbral scaffold
average rage quitter in chat
The true low tier move is people caring about how other people do
torn root
^
umbral scaffold
True chads will just see it as "I need to carry harder" and solo clutch 24/7
torn root
not trying to be a dick about it but scoreboarding is legit a plague
umbral scaffold
But apparently that's toxic mindset according to reddit
wary galleon
i WANT to carry sometimes because its fun to test my mettle
wary galleon
hope that shit gets banned so ppl can focus more on gameplay
how come though? i really like it to see my own personal stats, and how it went, im not using or talking about it with others?
did you experience that alot?
umbral scaffold
how come though? i really like it to see my own personal stats, and how it went,...
It's probably cos some elitists use it to belittle people who underperform
torn root
how come though? i really like it to see my own personal stats, and how it went,...
well you kinda brought it up just now
not to prais anyone
umbral scaffold
When a bad scoreboard doesn't actually mean anything
torn root
but to not he had the lowest stats
umbral scaffold
You can have 3k damage taken as a psyker
torn root
too many ppl use that shit for exactly that reason
as if it validates much
not for it
umbral scaffold
Cos your knife zealot goes invi every fight and leaves you to die
It good for personal reflection
But people just use it to dump on others a lot
wary galleon
well you kinda brought it up just now
yes here because i wanted to share my funny experience with this ragequitting manchild lol
The scoreboard part was just extra
wanton dawn
You can have 3k damage taken as a psyker
3k damage taken is a lot
torn root
too many times i read, i use it to see how well im doing --- followed by look at this dude in my game
umbral scaffold
3k damage taken is a lot
It is
But sometimes it's just what happens when you've got 3 invis zealots
And they redirect the entire mauler horde to your face lul
torn root
^
umbral scaffold
Plush
It's a hyperbole anyway
torn root
invis is nice
wanton dawn
Even then, you cannot take more damage than your healtbar
torn root
only when you have it XD
wary galleon
i know stats dont mean everything and context is needed. a good supporter build that made the team work and have low stats for example.
umbral scaffold
But it's an example of how the scoreboard can make you look worse than how you're actually doing
Since your teammates can really make you do worse sometimes
wanton dawn
Hyperbole can hurt your argument
torn root
i know stats dont mean everything and context is needed. a good supporter build ...
I wasn't really trying to come at you btw
umbral scaffold
Would be less of an issue if the game didn't have invis ults
torn root
but its just more often than not, ppl just use it to belittle others
umbral scaffold
Or the ability for people to shoot bursters
south vessel
i know stats dont mean everything and context is needed. a good supporter build ...
my support Zealot build does this, but it's some of the easiest games I have
tldr numbers need context, nothing new here
torn root
but its just more often than not, ppl just use it to belittle others
there is a reason more and more games are ommiting scoreboards and im starting to notice why
wary galleon
I wasn't really trying to come at you btw
i appreciate that. I understand what you mean though they forget filters or perspectives, context and builds.
torn root
i use to be against it
wary galleon
my support Zealot build does this, but it's some of the easiest games I have
yea exactly
torn root
but this community is a unique one
wary galleon
my own education is about optimization and numbers, so a scoreboard is very welcome to me since i like to tinker with what works and what is fun
tender pasture
usual caveat of when a metric becomes a goal, it ceases to be a good metric
wary galleon
i think it wont matter much if they banned the scoreboard, people will find a way to flame regardless
wanton dawn
In any case, I know only one successful low damage setup and it is stun psyker
torn root
i think it wont matter much if they banned the scoreboard, people will find a wa...
this is true
yup
umbral scaffold
I used to run stun psyker
But I dropped it for the same reason I dropped flamer zealot
Can't rely on team for shit if I want consistency
wanton dawn
All other setup have reasonable damage when properly used
otherwise this is a build problem
tender pasture
even stun psyker does ok damage with the slightest concession to doing damage
junior needle
hope that shit gets banned so ppl can focus more on gameplay
Nah I need that to measure performance on builds/weapons. Might as well get rid of text chat if that's your concern too.
torn root
Can't rely on team for shit if I want consistency
you can be supportive while being offensive
wary galleon
yea i look stun pysker not for damage but for that utility
torn root
Nah I need that to measure performance on builds/weapons. Might as well get rid ...
cant get rid of discord chat tho 😦
wary galleon
all though if you stun a big ass horde the overall numbers are pretty good
tender pasture
utility isn't necessary most of the time though
torn root
most of it happens here lmao, just dont like to call anyone out directly
tender pasture
it's for when twenty ragers spill out of a closet
torn root
not just in vet chat
south vessel
even stun psyker does ok damage with the slightest concession to doing damage
also they don't need to stun every horde, generally only patrols and when specials hit the fan
junior needle
cant get rid of discord chat tho 😦
You can, just don't go into discord
wary galleon
utility isn't necessary most of the time though
but that one time it is needed :P then its REALLY needed
torn root
You can, just don't go into discord <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
you hate me that much ? 😦
umbral scaffold
you can be supportive while being offensive
Ye it's why I go with the exploding staff nowadays
tender pasture
yep
wanton dawn
And yeah, even stun psyker can do damage.
tender pasture
it's part of a well rounded toolkit
torn root
fine Soldier Hate me guys bye
umbral scaffold
Either works
wanton dawn
As a vet, I don't think there is a single successful setup that can justify low damage
wary galleon
i can clear a mega horde, but i cant clear my own room of dirty laundry 😔
umbral scaffold
As a vet, I don't think there is a single successful setup that can justify low ...
Tbf vet and zealot don't have big utility weapons anyway
junior needle
you hate me that much ? 😦
quick steeple
As a vet, I don't think there is a single successful setup that can justify low ...
is that a challenge 
umbral scaffold
Ogryn has shield
Psyker has palpatine larping
wanton dawn
is that a challenge <a:panda_Smirk:959561406791946290>
For your team 
tiny summit
I think scoreboard is important to help WITH THE CONTEXT of your gameplay experience to analyze if your build is working. My crusher zealot in a game wasn't doing as much dmg as the other but was knocking around everything and pretty minimal dmg taken during horde situations.
junior needle
Discord chat is avoidable though, in game chat isn't
Therefore it's toxic and needs to be removed
Because a small portion of people will say meanie words
umbral scaffold
I think scoreboard is important to help WITH THE CONTEXT of your gameplay experi...
Yup
Pretty much
torn root
I think scoreboard is important to help WITH THE CONTEXT of your gameplay experi...
yeah buit the numbers sometimes also get scewed OD
wary galleon
i love seeing my insane attacks blocked number on my shield ogryn with 1.3k. compared to the others with like only 40 lol
torn root
especially whn you play with ppl you KNOW are competing for numbers on it
umbral scaffold
You can have low numbers but "still do a lot"
But that's not something a scoreboard can cover anyway
torn root
had too many games with oh look that guy is training spawns over there
wanton dawn
i love seeing my insane attacks blocked number on my shield ogryn with 1.3k. com...
I barely get over 5 per games
torn root
this game is going well
umbral scaffold
Game can't assign points on you knocking over stuff
torn root
post game 'ha you guys suck, wtf are those damage numbers'
quick steeple
had too many games with oh look that guy is training spawns over there
dont give randos another reason to NOT GET IN EXTRACT
wanton dawn
The only enemies I need to block rn are chaos spawn and daemonhost
wary galleon
I barely get over 5 per games <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
same, i only know LMB 
🔫
wanton dawn
PS does that
junior needle
post game 'ha you guys suck, wtf are those damage numbers'
I've never, ever had anyone say this in 1200 hours of playing
opal leaf
I know its in polish and sorry but holy doly mortadoli
profits carapace and crit chance
Blaze away and gets hot
wanton dawn
Even chaos spawn I need to block less and less
torn root
dont give randos another reason to NOT GET IN EXTRACT
nah they go off to the side to farm spawns when we are moving forward so we have 300k ish damage and they get 800k 'You guys need to carry weight, no way am i supposed to HAVE THIS DAMAGE'
quick steeple
I know its in polish and sorry but holy doly mortadoli
profits carapace and crit...
niiice
opal leaf
Even chaos spawn I need to block less and less
how do you block it without geting eaten?
wary galleon
I know its in polish and sorry but holy doly mortadoli
profits carapace and crit...
hungarian?
polish?
quick steeple
gotta avoid the grab atk
wanton dawn
how do you block it without geting eaten?
You don't block the grab, you block standard attack
torn root
how do you block it without geting eaten?
the grab has a specific animation you can dodge
tiny summit
I barely get over 5 per games <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
Darktide players and fgc players: I didn't pay to block
tender pasture
when you see the noodle extend out to your right
torn root
Darktide players and fgc players: I didn't pay to block
we block with our faces tf
opal leaf
Darktide players and fgc players: I didn't pay to block
fgc?
tender pasture
fighting game community
wanton dawn
Darktide players and fgc players: I didn't pay to block
Me and my bayonet: I didn't pay to push
quick steeple
Freakin Get Countered
umbral scaffold
how do you block it without geting eaten?
You can block everything but the grab
opal leaf
Me and my bayonet: I didn't pay to push <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168...
btw what the bayo mayo finesse?
umbral scaffold
Which is telegrapged wit the tentacle swing anyway
And well
You can't block the heavy iirc cos it staggers you
wanton dawn
btw what the bayo mayo finesse?
Sorry I don't speak ketchup
opal leaf
whats the bayonet finesse and how to replicate this
tender pasture
pick up Brutal Momentum on your melee weapon
opal leaf
wanton dawn
I don't have the exact number but you reach OS on mutie with focus mark.
opal leaf
pick up Brutal Momentum on your melee weapon
it works on bayonet aswell?
wanton dawn
2s
tender pasture
for some karking reason, yea
wanton dawn
Here is my build https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ab4625e-17ea-4457-a4bb-b7d6ad8d3e18/melee-bayonet-veteran-1222
tiny summit
Marksman Focus stacks should just give finesse dmg so that bayonet weakspot get bonus dmg.
tiny summit
pick up Brutal Momentum on your melee weapon
Limbsplitter stopped working
wanton dawn
with hel swap spd how many hits is that effectively prior to wear out
I only need to swap if crusher or mauler or too many bullwark are present
tiny summit
Funny though that Fatshark can't make it universal whether weapons should benefit from blessings from each other
torn root
bro... im actualyl farming curios for once...
quick steeple
Against special well
ah i see, not weilding the pws but it still looks for BM when calcing the bayo as a melee atk
wanton dawn
ah i see, not weilding the pws but it still looks for BM when calcing the bayo a...
yup. BM fully applies to bayonet
quick steeple
yup. BM fully applies to bayonet
i wonder if mercykiller does to
wanton dawn
Might be worth a try. Though again, you are losing BM cleave property
quick steeple
Might be worth a try. Though again, you are losing BM cleave property
oh i wouldnt on that wep noway more sheer curiosity
have you tested uncanny too or just BM
wondering if they'll stack....
quick steeple
hmm i think i got a random knife in vet invent with those perks at some tier lemme see...
quick steeple
Just BM. I did some try when ppl told me about limbsplitter
is there an activation req? im not seeing it on BM
wanton dawn
Two fold: 1/it increases weakspot damage 2/it remove cleave dmg decrease on up to 4 targets if you kill on weakspot
Allowing this
quick steeple
Two fold: 1/it increases weakspot damage 2/it remove cleave dmg decrease on up t...
ik the perk, i mean to proc on bayo is any action req or nah
quick steeple
ah wait think my talents were fudging it up
dire olive
The lengths people will go to avoid the Helbore re-equip animation
wanton dawn
The lengths people will go to avoid the Helbore re-equip animation
That's implying I am using the hellbore to shoot
quick steeple
uncanny & mercy dont seem to do anything from what i can tell
though i did notice, the inspect page for bayo dmg table actually updates when BM melee is equipped
wanton dawn
i fucked up 2024 alreday
Congrats on a successful speedrun
hardy ember
Hellguns on the way?
merry gale
no
hardy ember
sharp ember
Hellguns on the way?
got personally suggested by our community manager, so wheel out your hopium tanks
hardy ember
“Hope is the first step to disappointment”
sharp ember
my hope that it has fitting firepower and they make the backpack work
but in exchange it’s heavy as hell to wield
wanton dawn
my hope that it has fitting firepower and they make the backpack work
Recon it is then
hardy ember
Either a hellgun. Or a belt fed stubba to have the veteran be a gunner
sharp ember
i want the equip speed or reload process to make bolter feel like a laspistol
or inaccurate unless you plant your feet
tender pasture
someone suggested ammo backpack should explode if hit from the back
lmfao
guaranteed way to get ragequits
sharp ember
make it apply to scab gunners too
knife zealots blowing up when they try to backstab a gunner
frank ether
got personally suggested by our community manager, so wheel out your hopium tank...
more like copium tanks
I mean it might happen eventually
but probably many months away
polar pagoda
Upgrade to Headhunter 4 or change specialists wdy guys think?
sour prairie
www
polar pagoda
screw it, im just gonna upgrade
polar pagoda
nope nvm ill decide later
lilac ginkgo
Upgrade to Headhunter 4 or change specialists wdy guys think?
i'd upgrade the perk
tiny summit
I know recons aren't completely useless atm but...just save until buffs
fossil basalt
Recons fun but you'll definitely feel it not hitting the good breakpoints until you're hosing down a monster IMO
Emperor knows I tried to find the combo to make it 3tap mooks
fossil basalt
There is if you're worried about ammo
i.e. recon's main problemo or not running survivalist
torn root
there are breakpoints for auto weapons?
Breakpoints for every weapons
though i dont think they are super important on autos
tiny summit
There is if you're worried about ammo
i.e. recon's main problemo or not running...
Stealth recon with no survivalist. Just to bring that suffering feeling
jaunty sphinx
what do I want on the new shovel
shadow aurora
Perks or blessings
jaunty sphinx
blessings
shadow aurora
Thrust is a must have
For other blessings theres a few you can choose from thatre good
jaunty sphinx
hammerblow good?
shadow aurora
Hammerblow is fine but there are some better options
jaunty sphinx
ah I see, grabbed this from melk on impulse
I just woke up and my monkey brain wanted a shovel
jaunty sphinx
flak maniac or carapace maniac
jaunty sphinx
ty
agile mango
wort it?
agile mango
sseems real good
is the orestes even good tho?
odd sparrow
no idea lol but its stats are good as hell
wooden lotus
zealous otter
is the orestes even good tho?
It's pretty reliable, Chain Axes feel great on the vet now.
Get thunderous and you'll be oneshotting crushers
unique sorrel
scaring loyalists 😈
agile mango
best blessings/perks on XIIIg chainsword?
white reef
Guys, may I ask is it normal to have plasma gun Crosshair not becoming smaller when squat?
inland orchid
Are u standing still when crouching?
white reef
Yup
It just doesn’t change whether I am running or stand still
And only become smaller when I shoot
inland orchid
From what I experienced plas is going through some visual bugs, last time I used one on a twin fight it shot ghost plasma
Used the ammo landed the shot but no visual effects
inland orchid
Yea the plasma’s crosshair is one of the many nudges for lads to get some mod that lets them modify their crosshair
That and uh, some braced autoguns
I don’t have mods on mine but I see many that have been assisted by them
white reef
It’s a strange one as my original green plasma doesn’t have such problem
inland orchid
Huh, might be linked to the weapons stability stat then if I’m guessing right
white reef
But I get a new orange one and the crosshair start having some problem
Nah, it’s stat is much better
inland orchid
tryna understand FS coding is like tryna make bread outta grass
Sorry u gotta deal with this pal
inland orchid
Fingers crossed, my laptop sadly can’t run DT so I can’t much go to my own plasma to check a fix
white reef
It seems that it just exchange the crosshairs
inland orchid
So I wish I could help more 
lusty jetty
MK III?
umbral scaffold
VII
lusty jetty
Looks fun but also power sword is almost too effective to give up
Oh OK. I have a decent MKIII sitting around for Hadron to brick
umbral scaffold
Looks fun but also power sword is almost too effective to give up
ye i feel you
But it's worth trying one of these days when yuo get bored
very simple too
cedar pecan
Hadron moment
woeful ibex
wanton dawn
man low level heresy is dishearting
stray nebula
What's a good ranged weapon for finishing Serial Killer (kill 20 consecutive enemies with headshots)?
strange sparrow
man low level heresy is dishearting
I argue Heresy and below doesn’t teach the game properly
terse idol
What's a good ranged weapon for finishing Serial Killer (kill 20 consecutive ene...
Lasgun
Infantry lasguuns
terse idol
Yeah or Ia
stray nebula
Alright, thank you.
strange sparrow
I think I got that achievement by aiming head level with a hellbore
midnight totem
What's a good ranged weapon for finishing Serial Killer (kill 20 consecutive ene...
Boltgun
Do it
barren hamlet
What's a good ranged weapon for finishing Serial Killer (kill 20 consecutive ene...
play wizzard use head pop on mobs
inland orchid
play wizzard use head pop on mobs
That works?
barren hamlet
its how i got mine
inland orchid
Bet, I even got the modifier thingy for BB that makes it faster on ability cast
Thanks for the info sibling
Always assumed since it automatically went for a weakspot it wouldn’t count
barren hamlet
i did all my class challenges in the 1st month or so of the game coming out so they may have changed it but i doubt it
inland orchid
Aye fingers crossed it ain’t like old vet “resupply allies” where it just doesn’t track because it’s a upgraded version of the thingy
midnight totem
play wizzard use head pop on mobs
... wait really?
inland orchid
... wait really?
Ik I was shocked too when I read what the fellow sibling said
But then he solidified it saying he got the penace via that method
fervent quiver
This amazing knife
it would have been really nice
...
IF IT WAS ON MY VETERAN
FUCK
inland orchid
I feel that I got a awesome knife roll on my psyker when it was perfect for my zel
barren hamlet
inland orchid
lol the 2nd part of ur name is in the auto filter
Thanks for the confirmation regardless
torpid sundial
what builds do veterans use knife in
torpid sundial
I should try that sometime
fervent quiver
Just right side
Right side is so good
Don't even need stealth, you can go shout
lusty jetty
I would like a tiny rework to weapons master so you don't burn the effect if you are randomly swapping
strange sparrow
Serated blade + Weapon Specialist from what I know
It's a weird haha funny build
Stealth is great for funny because how dumb it is
-90 threat
fervent quiver
Actual pd2 dodgebuild
strange sparrow
You leave invisibility and everyone just ignore you
While Zealot, everyone want to deletus you if you dont take loner
Especially gunner hordes
covert beacon
Grabbed myself a new Helbore. What we thinking soldiers?
inland orchid
bottom roll damage hurt but usually this is the least hurtful part of hadron's bricking
so it pretty solid
torpid sundial
whats the difference between DoT burn/bleed/soulfire?
All I know is bleed was buffed or something and its pretty good now
white minnow
bleed generally deals the most DPS, but it decays very quickly
burn deals more damage than soulblaze, but it decays a bit more quickly
soulblaze lasts the longest but has the worst DPS generally
they also differ in armour damage modifiers
torpid sundial
man they really need to put this somewhere ingame
white minnow
and talent synergies and yaddi yadda
simply intuit the properties of each DoT through the morphogenetic field
tall torrent
Grabbed myself a new Helbore. What we thinking soldiers?
personally I'd harvest falter4 and move on
obtuse raft
Do the burst fire auto guns have crit chains sorta the same way that the ogryn stubbers do?
covert beacon
Just grabbed this one too, like both of them not sure which one to keep
tall torrent
Do the burst fire auto guns have crit chains sorta the same way that the ogryn s...
if crit, all shots in burst are crit
slate sleet
just got this badboy
midnight totem
Ah, the mark 6 power noodle
tall torrent
Damage doesn’t scale energized hits I think?
torn root
they have brittleness so might still hit the 2 shot
tall torrent
I think I messed up my setting files last night but
I sorta know what to change now
-1 texture setting is so funny
also ragdoll can't be set to 0 or it just crashes the moment u kill one enemy in meat grinder
tall torrent
I think I messed up my setting files last night but
reinstalling rn
ocean viper
is this worth keeping?
torn root
if the charge doesnt care about damage stat then they can still 2 shot crushers
tall torrent
is this worth keeping?
Yes
torn root
just bareley
ocean viper
how much of an upgrade is that over this though
torn root
so i have a question regarding Brutal Momentum vs Supercharge now
torn root
Brutal Momentum = Better Horde Clear, vs Supercharge = Better Monster Damage?
tall torrent
Brutal Momentum = Better Horde Clear, vs Supercharge = Better Monster Damage?
Supercharge isn’t the best thing because it doesn’t even boost monster dmg by much iirc
slow spade
Probably? It depends on power swords unyielding damage
ocean viper
is shred particularly useful for horde clearing either
tall torrent
Rending/brittleness are most effective for things that suck against a specific armor type
midnight totem
Shred is pretty good
torn root
Rending/brittleness are most effective for things that suck against a specific a...
I know how it works lmao
tall torrent
Power sword doesn’t suck against any armor type
slow spade
And the last thing power sword has issues is damage
tall torrent
You’re at most buffing teammates’ dmg
torn root
i tried it supercharger DOES do more damage to Monsters
tall torrent
If they’re running shovel or smth
torn root
but it might not be worth
midnight totem
Chainsword has high finesse too, it does benefit from crits