veteran-class

[fossil basalt]

You mean IV?

[ripe garden]

So are you saying they are the same thing?

[bitter turtle]

Bayonet literally stronger than the gun tho

[fossil basalt]

And I mainline carpal tunnel

[spark helm]

Shoot. The. Gun.

[terse idol]

That's the sad part

[spark helm]

SHOOT IT

[junior needle]

Use the pewpew mod, now everything is a lasgun

[terse idol]

What are we gonna have next, a melee that has a gun better than the melee

Smh

[bitter turtle]

Idk the one that shoots faster I don't use dirty lasguns

I only ever used 12

Back in the day

[ripe garden]

Jesus, what is that

[bitter turtle]

It's the autoclicker mod with one of the semi auto las

[terse idol]

Looks like a tracer mod

[spark helm]

The basic la and the 4 aren't bad options. Just depends on what you're actually looking for

[fossil basalt]

12 needs buffs

[torn root]

oy that ttk kinda nice my boii

[junior needle]

Graia brauto with the pewpew mod that can switch out visuals/sound effects

[spark helm]

It was nice until I stopped liking it.

Prefer the la for the in-between on rate of fire and dmg. A lot easier for me to weave hard shots during fucked up hordes.

[bitter turtle]

You know that mod is kinda legit

[terse idol]

I do prefer the 4, need more pinpoint accurate and damaging shots

[bitter turtle]

For visualizing the spread

[fossil basalt]

Make your laspistol shoot bolter rounds, look like a recon and sound like a revolver

[ripe garden]

What the fuck is pew pew mod?

[bitter turtle]

He just said it

[sage agate]

well i kinda HAVE TO try out this mk2

[bitter turtle]

It's just adding lasers to autoguns

[junior needle]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/174

[bitter turtle]

Visual

[spark helm]

Feel like the la is steadier but I barely notice the difference

Prefer the mk4 when I'm leaning more into using my gun on hordes if I want to

[ripe garden]

True. Stand corrected. So basically one click gun goes semi-auto-whatever-gun?

[junior needle]

It really is, I use it on all my autoguns now

[bitter turtle]

Nice bayonet

[terse idol]

Oh wait, the 4...

[fossil basalt]

I like the hail of lasfire IV brings

[terse idol]

I'm using the MXII

The

M12

[bitter turtle]

Nah his is just a visual mod

[fossil basalt]

XII NEEDS BUFF

[spark helm]

The mgixkwlbau super bowl xmciviiisicixn

[terse idol]

Its okay

[bitter turtle]

The mod I'm talking about earlier was autoclifcker

Diffetent mods

[sage agate]

hadron didn't even brick it

today is a good day

[ripe garden]

Ty. This explains.

[spark helm]

Would be nice to get some jackfruit smoothies.

Dang.

[tiny summit]

Infested > maniac or unarmored
Sustained. Idk. Never used on a hb

[ripe garden]

Wot. Did they nerf it some point? I thought it have been OP since the start of ages

[terse idol]

Need to minmax the break points on scab and dresge gunners

I must have the one taps on the mxii

I don't think its OP

The fire rate controls it

[spark helm]

Wouldn't take infested over maniac in most cases but you do you.

[bitter turtle]

Other guns caught up

[tiny summit]

The others got a buff. There's only a 40 dmg differential between XII and 1a

[bitter turtle]

Now the downside arent worth it

[terse idol]

Dats wack

[bitter turtle]

Unironically just play v7 if you want a pure sniper gun

[ripe garden]

True. Now a days I usally go with revolver anyway 🙂

[terse idol]

Wow I thought I was imagiing that I could two shot on the Ia just like the mxii

That's sad

[umbral scaffold]

i be balasting DAAAAAAAAAAAAMn

[terse idol]

But its the same

[umbral scaffold]

colum 5 slaps

[spark helm]

It's a pretty safe gun yeah

Wait did the mg12 ever get nerfed?

[tiny summit]

Only reason I'm not using 1a more is because the only good stat roll one I have, has infernus. It still does work but I want Deady Accurate

[spark helm]

I actually don't know

[ripe garden]

One question: Am I alone with the feeling that I love playing veteran only so I can highlight elites/special with one click? When I changed to other talent it felt like nobody press the fucking highlight button. Coming from vt2 cata that feels just so.. blackened

[cerulean void]

MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELK!!!!!

[spark helm]

People in pubs don't often highlight enemies and it makes zero sense to me at higher difficulties.

[tiny summit]

Dunno. People over tag in aurics

[cerulean void]

people in pubs also don't understand the concept of tagging things THEY THEMSELVES NEED HELP WITH

INSTEAD OF TAGGING THE THING THEY'RE DELETING

[tiny summit]

I tag a lot on my exe helbore so I can see the heads better

[spark helm]

Like the tag spam is annoying sure. But even in aurics I got less tagging most days unless it was me or someone running focus target.

[terse idol]

dang that's good

[bitter turtle]

Idk tag spam is legit if you're scouting an area out

[ripe garden]

Tbh I rather have tag spam than no tag at all

[terse idol]

OI'm not convinced

[spark helm]

Good for you.

grumble.

[terse idol]

It's just uh

Loud and annoying

[cerulean void]

well, yes

it's just annoying to hear tag
turn around
nothing

[terse idol]

I just need 1 ping

[bitter turtle]

I'm not pinging for my team

Fuck my team

[terse idol]

Honestly I need one ping because my game is so dark the enemies cover themselves

[bitter turtle]

I'm pinging to check the room out

For myself

So inknow what's inside

[spark helm]

I mean like the kind of spam where it's not even helpful it's just being done to be done for haha loud noise.

[bitter turtle]

They can turn their volume off

[spark helm]

I'm never not pinging

[ripe garden]

Pinging the precious ammo bag u gonna take

[bitter turtle]

I use a v7

I don't pick up ammo

[spark helm]

I just ping because it's a passive dps increase on the unit. :^)

Before focus target.

[tiny summit]

That vet with tag binded to lmb? I'm not tagging that burster behind him

[fossil basalt]

No, it just fell off the cart with it's slower fire rate after the other ILGs got buffed

[ripe garden]

I mean hardly in any dam maps you need to tag anybody. But there are some fucking talents that do get something from it. And Aurus/special cond. it is a must IMO

[spark helm]

That and we'll, it's information in a game where you can shoot shit. Idk. Wall hacks are always good.

[umbral scaffold]

yall not tagging? i bined my tag to left mouse button so i can insta ping every single enemy especially bursters and high prio ones

[terse idol]

Hopefully they buff the mg12 so it can one tap gunners like damn

[tiny summit]

Tagging the scab gunners behind cover so I can see a highlighted head that pokes out

[tacit sonnet]

When will recon lasguns become not shit

[terse idol]

*shrug

[bitter turtle]

Invent a time machine

[ripe garden]

Fucking non-taggers, y'all non-baggers

[bitter turtle]

Go back to patch 13

[tiny summit]

I know you kid

[bitter turtle]

Enjoy recon

[cerulean void]

A

[terse idol]

I'm gonna unbind my tag button now

[umbral scaffold]

i saw that ping

[cerulean void]

YO

[tacit sonnet]

I wish I could, it's literally my most favourite weapon and I was so happy it became decent in patch 13

[ripe garden]

And I will respect that with honor

[umbral scaffold]

its going to be good in

yeah

[tacit sonnet]

And then fatshark was like, no, 1 month of being ok is too much, go back to being completely useless unusable piece of shit

[cerulean void]

bind it to M1 galaxybrain

[tiny summit]

Funny unending stream of laser piss that wasn't optimal and fatshark said "enjoy the gun? Too bad"

[terse idol]

Gonna bind it to my power button

[bitter turtle]

Get that mod 69 showed

[terse idol]

So if someone tells me

That I need to tag

[bitter turtle]

Add laser to columnus

[terse idol]

I'll just turn my puter off

😌

[bitter turtle]

Pretend it's a recon

[tiny summit]

I mean...it isn't unusable.

[tacit sonnet]

Lawbringer is usable, doesn't mean you should

[fading grove]

What made it decent was the no ammo consumed on crit

[spark helm]

Fuck off. I'm using it in my wep spec build.

[cerulean void]

oh karking throne

[fading grove]

Now it’s like a 4 sec delay which is stupid on the fire rate of the gun

[umbral scaffold]

my biggest shame and. THIS FUCK ATE 10K PLASTEEL AND DIDNT EVEN GET INFERNUS 4

[junior needle]

At the very minimum not until fatshork is done with their 2 month winter break. Probably longer than that because they appear to not care about the guns whatsoever.

[bitter turtle]

The dmg nerfs did not help either

[viral wraith]

worth picking up from Melk?

[fading grove]

Damage was fine with brittleness stacks and rending

[fading grove]

Wait they nerfed the damage

[tacit sonnet]

What made it decent was ok damage. They killed armor modifers, fall off is now shit, crits and therefore ammo are now shit, damage is now shit, dps is bad

[tacit sonnet]

They nerfed the total dps by like 2 times

[bitter turtle]

Yes

[fading grove]

Lmao

What

[tacit sonnet]

Also they killed the inverse falloff which was amazing

[bitter turtle]

The dmg vs flak and unyielding got significantly worse

[tacit sonnet]

Not it has normal and much worse falloff

[tiny summit]

Damn that unyielding hit.

[tacit sonnet]

recon lasguns are useless pieces of trash

[umbral scaffold]

[bitter turtle]

Don't forget o

in the same patch

They also buff iag

[tacit sonnet]

And it was my favourite weapon, I was waiting so long for recons to get buffed, only to use them for 1 month before they got nerfed into oblivion

[bitter turtle]

To be stronger than prenerf recon

[tacit sonnet]

They fucking killed with nerfs an ok weapon and buffed and already really strong plasma

[cerulean void]

be me
hate revolver
refuse to use it
highest rated gun in my armoury now

[tacit sonnet]

I will forever be salty about this

[tiny summit]

Such a piss way to change up the modifiers. It's strength was being a decent at range, fire rate, lil to no recoil and ammo economy. Now it just pisses ammo and has better modifiers at a range why wouldn't you just swap to melee

[umbral scaffold]

TFW you kill 7 shotgunners with 1 plasma shot

[junior needle]

The problem with recons is that their damage and ammo economy are just abysmally bad. The 6d performed well in patch 13 because double rending helped to fix its shit armor modifiers and shock trooper massively extended its ammo economy, even if its dps wasn't egregious.

[bitter turtle]

I know how to fix recon btw

Give them a bayonet

No need to revert any nerf

Gun fixed

Now it has a reason to do less dmg than iag

[tacit sonnet]

I literally saw people kill 14 shotgunners with 1 plasma shot. And then I look at recon struggling to kill even like 3

[tiny summit]

Lol

[umbral scaffold]

skill issue

tbh

[tacit sonnet]

I fucking hate patch 14

[bitter turtle]

Also fits their image of a close range assault gun

Bayonet pls

[tiny summit]

Recon is the tease of whats to come before the big weapon balance update.

[junior needle]

Why would you need a bayonet for a gun that's intended to shoot at close range

[bitter turtle]

Cause you can stab ppl if you're close duh

[junior needle]

That defeats the point of it being good to shoot at close if you just stab things instead

[bitter turtle]

Well you shoot what you can't stab

Like carapace

Or ppl standing slightly further away

[junior needle]

But you want to stab carapace

[bitter turtle]

Unironically I think it'd be a fun weapon lol

You run in stab hordes and shoot specialists than run up and gunners at midrange

The dmg is lower but it feels more justified now

Also bayonet skewers maniacs

Covers its worst dmg type

[tiny summit]

Gib anti carapace bayonets plez

[bitter turtle]

Pls

I want it

Bayorecon

[gray finch]

shotgun with bayonet but it give additional penetration and shot while stabbing

somethink like ogryn gountler

[junior needle]

It'd still be very poor

[bitter turtle]

I'd use it

I promise

[junior needle]

And that's unlikely to happen unless they add both weapon customization and bayonets as an option for it

[bitter turtle]

😔

[junior needle]

In which case you'd be much better off with a bayonet on basically any other gun

[spark helm]

Throw empty magazines for 200% increase to crouch recovery speed.

[bitter turtle]

Well yes

[spark helm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tiny summit]

If it was really good at shoving a bayonet into a crusher face and it blasting their face for max dmg it'd be neat

[bitter turtle]

This why it deserves a bayonet

Because it sucks

[gray finch]

but i would change the flashlight for bayonet on mg Ia

[bitter turtle]

Bayonet on iag is op

[junior needle]

It should just not suck

[spark helm]

go home.

:>:C

[bitter turtle]

Honestly I'm OK with the idea of a gun that is objectively below avg but makes up for it with a strong melee option

Like that doesn't sound like a bad design space

[junior needle]

I already have a strong melee option in my melee slot

[bitter turtle]

It's like a gunsword

[junior needle]

I don't need another one when I want a good gun

[bitter turtle]

Who doesn't like gunswords

[tiny summit]

Greedy. I think there should be random lights out portions in maps instead of as only a whole map modifier

[bitter turtle]

Soldier 69 apparently

He wants a gun and a sword separately

😔

[gray finch]

nice

[spark helm]

they should add wallrunning to vet and zealot.

:>

[bitter turtle]

You could still make use of your melee btw

[gray finch]

helbore mk 3 have this really bad swing on special

[bitter turtle]

Like if you had knife secondary

[gray finch]

but it good at shootin

[tiny summit]

Trick weapons fatshark. Trick weapons in Darktide

[bitter turtle]

Your bayonet is general melee

Then knife for mobility

And single target

Penetration

Recon for midrange

Does that not sound fun

[spark helm]

Maybe something like an exo armor that you can pilot. Different ones for different loadouts and functions within a team setting.

you know

[tiny summit]

Stupid vets. Why don't they just take the knife in their pocket and tape it to their lasguns

[spark helm]

maybe some double jumping too.

maybe the enemy has some of those exo armors and you can remove their power supply and use it for your own

could call a blessing titanfall: elites, ogryn and monstrocities bonus dmg

[gray finch]

no

[placid portal]

Pretty sure every lasgun has a bayonet lug

[lone otter]

Three weapons that Im looking for advice on for the final change

[umbral scaffold]

my brother starving

83 plasteel

[lone otter]

constantly rolling new weapons lol

[umbral scaffold]

6k ordo dockets

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spare-change-spare-some-change-begging-poor-gif-18999842

hope ya get em god rolls

Emperor protects

[frank basin]

Emperor bless

Give the vet the goods

[placid portal]

Sah needs betta Boots

[umbral scaffold]

fatshark gives vet an rpg or bazooka next wep patch 🙏

[placid portal]

*Replaces Krak

[lone otter]

would it be a good choice to change lacerate to uncanny strike for the dagger, bloodletter to devesatating strike for the chainsword, and idk to change the reload speed perk or change to handcannon 4 for the revolver

[placid portal]

[umbral scaffold]

no big man dont eat the krak grenade

DONT

[placid portal]

MUST EAT DA FORBIDDEN EGGG

[muted knot]

I believe it's impossible to have more than that

[placid portal]

[umbral scaffold]

[frank basin]

heavily breathing

[junior needle]

Revolver is simple enough, just change the last perk to a damage one. The blessings are fine as is, the only possible improvement would be t4 hand cannon.

Shred is not a great choice on a chainsword unless you're playing zealot. Do you want it oriented for horde clear or using specials on hard targets?

For the knife, lacerate is a noob trap blessing and has anti-synergy with weakspot blessings. Also the knife bodyshot damage blows and it relies heavily on headshots/crits.

[muted knot]

For chainswords I run rampage and wrath

Could also go with Savage sweep instead of wrath but I prefer wrath

[junior needle]

Yeah if you want to light spam (it's your only option on the new one) you need wrath to even proc rampage on bruisers. Rampage apparently gives power now though despite stating damage, so you can get around needing wrath on the original chainsword by proccing rampage with a heavy.

[sage agate]

730k ranged damage? i love ia lasgun

[lone otter]

I was just checking on changing the reload speed perk before I did, bc the reload speed is only a 58%

I don't really like shred by itself & have another sword with rampage+wrath(wrath locked)...but wanted to try shred + devastating strike with the increased crit from weapon specialist side of the tree.

For the knife I was thinking of getting rid of lacerate for uncanny strike. I assume flak + manic are good to keep on it then

[junior needle]

shred + devastating strike with the increased crit from weapon specialist side of the tree
It's very unimpressive, trust me on that. Especially compared to rampage which gives power now.

For the knife I was thinking of getting rid of lacerate for uncanny strike. I assume flak + manic are good to keep on it then
Uncanny strike is definitely the best blessing for knives, you do want that. Then you have a few choices. Mercy killer I wouldn't recommend unless you're taking the bleed on hit talent.

Flak/maniac is what the zealot channel recommends on knives too.

But they're more likely to actually hit maniacs in melee, being much more melee focused.

flak/unarmored is the best for overall horde clear on most melee, so if you shoot maniacs that's a better choice.

[sterile hull]

Sorry if this is a noob question but does the mobility stat on weapons affect the draw time i.e. how fast you can weapon switch?

[junior needle]

Nope

That should be static for every weapon

[torn root]

the bolter feel different from other guns ngl

[sterile hull]

I think he means it can't be affected by stats, not that it's uniform across all weapons

[junior needle]

That would be correct

The bolter does have a longer draw time

[woeful ibex]

sire melk, is this gun worth it?

Never used this before

with some modifications

[lone otter]

Aww that sucks. I had hoped the 10% melee crit chance + finesse & the 5% flat crit in the tree with +devastating strike & shred would make it decent. Still I think replacing both blessings would be better than replacing flak or unyielding for my chainsword.

And I do plan to take the bleed on hit talent to aynergize my knife with mercy killer + uncanny strike. I think that's the strongest combo a vet can do with a knife, right? Thanks for the perk advice too. Gonna keep perks and replace both blessings for the knife too then I think.

Thanks for all the help!

[muted knot]

How is it that one day after getting a good Hellbore MK1 I get this offered

Melk a bitch fr fr

[tame cliff]

Just a gentle reminder that you Veterans can peak cover when aiming at cover you are hiding behind

[thorn plinth]

quick clarification on the penance "Resupply allies" it specifically mentions scavenger.
does this work with survivalist, or do i need to downgrade my build to complete it?

and the same for volley fire and executioners stance.
since they are just augmented versions, i would assume they still work for penance completion?

[low yacht]

My new veteran

[muted knot]

Should be fixed

[muted knot]

I just wish it had any real use tho

[primal delta]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/604171381986426880/1191212577032785950/image.png?ex=65a49e2a&is=6592292a&hm=29a38730d759ee2bbb64762e490a29dee533f0e084b97c13b1b82737ae5b7c21&

hey guys, just got this from Melk- how is it?

[woeful ibex]

change carapace with Flak armor

scab gunners are prio

[primal delta]

yeah realized my error too late

getting the plasteel to swap that out rn

[muted knot]

50 damage feels bad but I don't know if it actually matter s

[shrewd acorn]

Any tips on how I can improve this?

[hollow ibex]

no respite is the other meta blessing (aside from full bore)

[serene sage]

Fire Frenzy to No Respite

[hollow ibex]

and then last slot to change unarmored prob

[serene sage]

I would actually keep unarmored for gunner breakpoints

Change crit to flak

Or maniac, up to you

[hollow ibex]

depending on the build unarmored might not be necessary

[serene sage]

Well crit damage is generally not great tbh

[hollow ibex]

lol yeah true

[torn root]

yeah

its just as weak as weakspot damage

and just worst along with it than elite damage

except that has a fringe use case

[junior needle]

That damage roll is a no

I wouldn't have bought it personally

[torn root]

not even for the t4 collection?

[thorn plinth]

what is your preference in lasguns?
want to try out more weapons as i usually end up with revolver/shotgun

[hollow ibex]

tbf... he would only be table to take one of the blessings, and a roll like that prob cost 3k milk coins

actually scammed

[junior needle]

Oh you right. I'd have bought it as a blessing scrapper but not for use

But I have an abundance of milkbux

[junior needle]

The only lasguns that should outright be avoided are recons currently. Everything else performs well enough, even if overshadowed by autoguns/plasma currently.

[inland orchid]

Infantry and helbore do work but ya mad overshadowed by cool blue soccer ball sized hole maker and guns that go brr very fast

[sharp phoenix]

This is probably a tall ask, but does anyone got any good shovel setups?

[torn root]

i legit feel like melk is only there for you to snag t4s, not for the rolls, you'll have a shit ton of currency before he drops something good

[sage agate]

i think if you deal enough damage to the karnak twins before the gas section begins, you can end up skipping a phase of the fight entirely and just have to deal with double the gas

was playing thru on malice and we absolutely trashed rodin down to less than half in the first phase of the fight and we were running around for like 5 or 6 gas cycles

[urban steppe]

how to stop love this chonky ?

[torn root]

sorry on the mk7 Uncanny Strike + Thrust with Maniac + Carapace

i think that's the set up that can 1 shot crushers

[junior needle]

Which shovel do you want to use

[inland orchid]

Ye there’s the standard issue ones, then the new 2 ones

All very cool

[torn root]

Mk7 also has the Sweeps for hoard clearing with the same blseeings

[sharp phoenix]

Hadn’t decided precisely. Kinda wrote them off wholesale back when the game dropped, which was a bit hasty on my part. But I did get a cool chain sword back in those days that carried me for ages

[torn root]

there is a new shovel type

develops into a pick

[muted knot]

The old shovels are still fun

[inland orchid]

Yea they’re special strike is pretty good stagger wise

[muted knot]

I have never used it in my life

[tall torrent]

All the shovels rn are pretty good as long as you’re not using them to fight unyielding enemies

[inland orchid]

Valid it do feel a liiiitle slow

[muted knot]

What is the god roll for old shovels ?

[torn root]

again just gunna say mk7 covers everything

[muted knot]

Skull crusher+something I suppose

[torn root]

horde cleare, cc and crushers

[junior needle]

uncanny/deci

You can take skullcrusher/deci for max horde clear but you won't do dick damage to carapace

[torn root]

Uncanny + Thrust / Decimator + Thrust idk what else can kill crushers

[muted knot]

That's what the plasmagun is for

[torn root]

pretty sure you dont even need carapace now that im thinking about it

the special has a high innate value against carapace

[thorn plinth]

i know its good,, but i just hate using it xD

[tall torrent]

Mk7 unironically goes very hard with uncanny + take a swing

It has 3 overheads with push atk + L3 + L4

All 3 overheads get buffed by take a swing

[brazen bay]

another day another not shit worth buying from melk

its been well over a month since he has had anything worth a hoot and have not rolled anything from brunt either lately

[frail bolt]

should i slap inernus on my mk4 lasgun?

[versed merlin]

just had a vet in a qp auric running ALL his talent points in the whole right side of the tree

[brazen bay]

I personally prefer headhunter and between the eyes on mk4 so imo yes

[frail bolt]

how did it fair?

[versed merlin]

do i need to elaborate?

[muted knot]

Pain

[versed merlin]

truly

[brazen bay]

hmmmm well at least its over XD

[versed merlin]

man hugged the floor for the entire run

but we didnt make it far, we eventually wiped

[muted knot]

That knife man

[versed merlin]

at least his curious arent bad

well

maybe a little bit

bot nothing so abominable compared to his talent tree and the weapons

[muted knot]

Unrelated question: is it a dick move to dodge damnation lobby's with undergeared/under leveld people in it ?

[brazen bay]

clearly he was memeing

[brazen bay]

define undergeared

[muted knot]

Starts sweating while looking at my random jumble of curios*

[versed merlin]

dont think so, man's lvl 36, he literally just got to 30 and thought he was good enough to auric

[brazen bay]

if we talking because they arent running meta then yes

[muted knot]

I'm talking 265 power weapons

[versed merlin]

normal t5? prob no problem if they are undergeared. there are plenty of people who run t5 to level their character faster

[brazen bay]

in that case no

[muted knot]

I don't care if you run meta

[brazen bay]

dont come to the big boi table if you aint ready to play

[muted knot]

I just want you to pull some weight

[versed merlin]

but if its auric, then ill def dodge or block that person and move away

[muted knot]

I have not stepped into aurics much

[brazen bay]

just saying, i have seen ppl doding lobbies because a vet rolls in with anything other than plas or revolver builds

[versed merlin]

oh well, once you do and get the pace of it, you wont bother at all with other people's builds in normal t5

[muted knot]

Lmao

That reminds me that I have to turn off my scoreboard

[mystic hull]

what to do with the perks here?

[muted knot]

It just makes me mad to see others stats

Or rather it makes me mad to see them while I'm playing

If it were just after the game I would have no issue

[placid portal]

mmm chonky gun

[tropic notch]

Maniac and unyielding

[mystic hull]

get rid of stamina?

[brazen bay]

def

[mystic hull]

cool

[muted knot]

Only one to change tho

[tropic notch]

Fat shark please remove the crafting limit

[brazen bay]

stamina is kinda of useless perk on most weapons imo

fine on curios though

[mystic hull]

yeah i was just thinking about the push attack combo

[muted knot]

You don't do that repeatedly

Usually that is

[tropic notch]

You need pc 4!

[brazen bay]

the craft limit is the most annoying shit

[tropic notch]

It is

[muted knot]

Well no shit Sherlock

[tropic notch]

Ruins a lot of godrolls

[tropic notch]

Lick my tip please 🙏

[brazen bay]

get 2 shit perks and 1 shit blessing on a weapon with good stats? Might as well chuck it!

[muted knot]

You'd like that wouldn't you

[mystic hull]

spent like 15k plasteel and only just got PC3 today

[tropic notch]

[tropic notch]

[mystic hull]

rolling swords up to legendary

thats the play since im looking for a t4 right?

[tropic notch]

I’ve spent over 50k trying to get deflector in my force swords

[muted knot]

I get strong furry vibes from all the cats

[brazen bay]

the amount of times I have had to toss god roll weapons because I roll fucking stamina on fucking revolver or shotgun along with umarmored and some t1 blessing is abismal

[tropic notch]

Deflector is a myth created by the hadron

[tropic notch]

I just like cats bruh

[muted knot]

Hahah

Fair enough

Got two myself

[tropic notch]

That’s so cool I don’t care

[muted knot]

But cunty today aren't we ?

[tropic notch]

I love watching psykers go down while running the most horrific build and the worst weapons of said build and leave

Who runs smite with purg

[brazen bay]

Cats are dope

[tropic notch]

Or surge with bb

[normal pawn]

Kyet

[frank ether]

https://imgur.com/gallery/TDf4jUC

[tropic notch]

Hope the add more raid bosses like the twins

Wish they would give you loot you can’t buy

Or cosmetics

[frank ether]

yes very good content, would like to see level design thats more than just flat circle arena though

[brazen bay]

I was kinda hoping at minium we would be able to get their plasmagun and powersword skins

that would have been sick af

[frank ether]

Yea that would have been very cool

[tropic notch]

Or get roins pistol

[brazen bay]

the profile pic charms are kinda meh at best considering I often forget profile pics exsist at all most the time

[tropic notch]

Hope fatshark takes some notes from destiny but not go down the same path as them

[brazen bay]

hell I would have even taken weapon charms over that

[frank ether]

Think it wouldn't kill them to add some more weapon skins every once in a forever

[brazen bay]

now all that griping aside it was a fun update and that is what matters most so all in all 7/10

[tropic notch]

How big of a company is fat shark?

[brazen bay]

not huge but not small

they are above indie dev but not quite triple a

[tropic notch]

I see

I asked this before what’s the difference between sunder and brutal momentum

Does sunder give you inf cleave?

Like the plasma gun?

[frank ether]

the answer is complicated but tldr is energized sunder hits will cleave armor better

[brazen bay]

sunder increases cleave dmg when your powersword alt is active and BM increases damage to weak spots and ignores enemy mass

over all I prefer BM for the mass ignore

[tropic notch]

I know that much and I do too

[frank ether]

one cool thing about BM is

it works when unactivated aswell

[tropic notch]

I wish there was a vid on it

[brazen bay]

im not 100% sure on the question I guess

[frank ether]

its not an energized blessing it just works all the time

[tropic notch]

That’s why I like it as well

[frank ether]

likewise I enjoy not having to rev it over like a single poxwalker

[tropic notch]

There’s a vid on BM and pc

But no pc and sunder

[brazen bay]

oh I thought it was energized? that is how interrupt the desc of it anyway

[frank ether]

I still think activation weapons are poorly designed atm

BM just helps powersword not be completely awful outside of energized hits

[tropic notch]

I wish they were always active

[frank ether]

but because you would be pairing it with PC4 it doesnt mean a lot

[tropic notch]

And had a cooldown

[frank ether]

if PC4 didn't exist

and it was baseline 3 energized

you could do BM+slaughterer

Idk I guess complaining about PS feels weird when its the strongest of the activation weapons

I guess what I'm trying to get at is

this is a common trope

[brazen bay]

I love how depending on the weapon some perks are straight up mandatory making others straight useless

[tropic notch]

They show give zealot the pw

It would be funny

[brazen bay]

and of course RNGesus make all the dogshit ones the most common when rolling

blessings*

[frank ether]

zealot thammer needs to like

one shot bosses

to be relevant

because its an activation weapon that has no cleave

[tropic notch]

It already does

Kinda

[frank ether]

it either does dumbfuck amounts of damage or its useless

[brazen bay]

well over 1M in and have yet to roll a good revolver

[frank ether]

its not a good spot for any weapon to be in

[brazen bay]

zealot overall is kinda of meh spot atm I think but that seems to be the life cycle of classes in the game either they are the top of the food chain or not great

[frank ether]

me neither

I gave up

too demoralized

[brazen bay]

currently I think vet is the strongest class considering they can do it all more or less

shout vets packing a plasmagun or revolver can provide support and lead DPS

[ebon umbra]

4 VoC vets could just stomp everything lmao

[frank ether]

I think the twins hm winrate probably suggests ogryn would be that

vets a very good support

which doesnt mean it cant do damage

but I wouldn't judge the class based on the two most overpowered guns

[brazen bay]

fair but shieldgryns are leading that charge I think tanking everything the twins chuck while everyone else bullys them

[junior needle]

Twins HM is a very specific circumstance

[frank ether]

I think it highlights weakness of your build very well

[frozen meadow]

Bolter with both of the reload talents feels pretty good

[frank ether]

I do agree its pretty much a stress test for your party tho

[frozen meadow]

Still needs small buff

[tropic notch]

Knife orgyn is the best in my opinion

[ebon umbra]

the mines and gas kinda hurt voc despite voc being a good tool against them. voc stack vets just have so much sustain for a reg match

but yeah ogryn stack crazy tho

[brazen bay]

true but the vet doesnt really have any truly bad guns tbh there are some that are better than others of course but even a reconlas vet can smoke the shit out of things

[tropic notch]

Heavy hitter or just build regen

[frank ether]

well gunpsyker would like to say hi

with endless crit strings

[tropic notch]

Bb gun psyker with gaze is so funny

[frank ether]

I dont think recon is good on ANY class but if I were to make a choice I'd use it on the class that gets crit chance over a set duration rather than the one that loses stamina per shot, which would be very expensive for deadshot veteran

[ebon umbra]

i'd use recon if gene stealers popped up

[tropic notch]

New class when

Probably when the genestealers appear

[brazen bay]

I mean last I checked reconlas vets have 65% winrate which is low compared to other weapons but still a higher win to loss ratio

[tropic notch]

Zola needs to hurry up and betray

[frank ether]

could depend on a lot of factors

[ebon umbra]

how many dreams of two zolas can you have

[frank ether]

game doesnt have official winrate data so I'd imagine that data is collected by players

[tropic notch]

Like 10,000

[brazen bay]

I wonder what it be if we got a new one, tech priest maybe lol?

[frank ether]

which could mean its a small sample size of higher skilled players, or it could be from P13 where recon was good

[brazen bay]

im trying to think of something that is not a variant of guard or space marine

maybe add ratlings?

[tropic notch]

That’s the best option or combat servitor

[tropic notch]

The sisters

[ebon umbra]

i wonder what the average time for starting the first interrogator is on carnival 1

[junior needle]

The recon lasguns are truly bad. The only thing holding them up is how much juice the talent tree can give. But at the same time, you'd get much more juice from a gun that isn't so poor baseline because it acts as a multiplier.

Well, holding the 6d up as somewhat usable.

The 2 is absolutely indefensibly bad and the 7a is uh, there I guess.

[tropic notch]

What’s the best auto gun again?

[wind echo]

they wouldn’t have anything unique besides a rifle though? mechanicus would offer some new stuff

lots you could do

[tropic notch]

I see a lot of people using it

[junior needle]

CIAG generally speaking

[tropic notch]

[junior needle]

Finesse weapon btw

3x recon dps on body shots

[brazen bay]

I personally prefer the columnus mk5

[terse idol]

There's aloot of theory of just having a tech adept

Someone who's not exactly admech

[brazen bay]

that could be cool

[terse idol]

But very technologically sound

[junior needle]

Inquisitor martyr had a tech adept inquisitor

[brazen bay]

I kinda want a detedicated support class tbh

[raw birch]

havent played my vet for awhile do u guys have any talent build for a mk5 infant autogun?

[junior needle]

Dedicated support class would not work well for this kind of game unless it also blows shit up, at which point it's not a dedicated support

[wind echo]

a tech adept with the customization being various forms of added borg to replace tattoos?

[terse idol]

Yess

[wind echo]

support can also mean a turret, aoe toughness or health or dmg boost etc

[tropic notch]

I love the caidan vet voc voice lines but in general he’s so whiny

[wind echo]

lots you could do

[tropic notch]

Wish there was a way to shut him up

And make him less whiny

[wind echo]

wish he said something whenever the twins say "you wouldn’t last a day in the 6th"

[tropic notch]

True

I’d like to have him quite and brooding

[tall torrent]

If we get tech adept I want them to have more engineer related stuff like
What if they could make enemy flamers explode

[tropic notch]

Bro will build a sentry

[vernal harbor]

Ermmm I’d have lasted quite awhile in the 6th actually ☝️

[tropic notch]

And a dispenser

Imagine how good that would be

Health and ammo on demand

But it can be destroyed

[wind echo]

a ratling wouldn’t work because the vet basically has everything they have besides the rifle

[tall torrent]

Yk what give tech adept a sentry as their ult

[tropic notch]

Fr

[glossy knoll]

"Hey look buddy, I'm an Engiseer. That means I solve problems."

[tropic notch]

Or as a secondary

[wind echo]

if a tech adept is added i want hadron to be extra mean to them

[tropic notch]

Someone @ fatshark

[tall torrent]

Ratling could work but they need to differ from veteran, I’m thinking more along the side of guerrilla warfare specialist

Have them be able to place down mines and sabotage enemy equipment

[tropic notch]

Or the furrys

I forgot what there called

[wind echo]

i agree

[glossy knoll]

Felinids IIRC

[wind echo]

add a blank/null

when you hit lvl 30 rannick shoots you

wiping your slot

[tropic notch]

You could be dog niga grime the famous manga dog niga

That’s not what I wanted

Bro

[tropic notch]

They quell the peril by being near the psyker

[terse idol]

Ooh that'd be cool

To be fair

A null would break the power level

🥹

[tall torrent]

Having a blank would be cool but that would be actually difficult to implement gameplay wise

[terse idol]

A chaos spawn would see the null and just leave

Beasts of nurgle

Peaces out

[tall torrent]

You either literally debuff your team all the time or just 1 shot beast of nurgle

There’s no in-between

[placid portal]

But deals damage

[tropic notch]

Literally

[wanton dawn]

100% aggro lets go

[unique anvil]

I kinda wish we had a sniper rifle in the game tbh, or would that be too OP?

[tropic notch]

Eats there toughness

[wind echo]

which is why when you hit lvl 30 rannick meets you and gets so irked from your presence he shoots you

wiping your slot

[tropic notch]

Have too be no one likes them

[wanton dawn]

That would be unusable

[tropic notch]

[wanton dawn]

Closest we have are lucius pattern

[placid portal]

Precision weapon in a hoarde shooter

[tall torrent]

A blank would be like

Passive:
you receive friendly fire from all your teammates
you debuff any Psykers on your team
you are significantly stronger against chaos powered entities

[tropic notch]

The revolver

[wanton dawn]

If revolver is a sniper plasma is too

[unique anvil]

Surprisingly accurate at mid range pistol tbh

[tropic notch]

They both are lol

[viscid marlin]

snipers would be easily usable, you just cant give them some rediculous crap like a 12x scope

[unique anvil]

Imagine if you were a chaos sniper armed with the most high tech sniper rifle of the Moebian VIth

[tall torrent]

Long-las could work (and be different from Helbore lasguns), but they could either be really broken or really underpowered

[tropic notch]

Hit a clip on the rager

[wanton dawn]

The closest we have to semi-auto sniper is the bolter atm

[unique anvil]

Then some asshole with a shitty revolver counter snipes you from across the mao

[celest vine]

give veteran the zealot flamer

[viscid marlin]

i mean the helbore is sniper-ish but a long las would work pretty well in this setting i think

[celest vine]

its irons blow

[viscid marlin]

you use irons?

[celest vine]

its genuinely garbage

[viscid marlin]

all irons blow, they are irons

[tall torrent]

Would be fun
Would also kind of not be that great gameplay-wise

[viscid marlin]

some blow more then others though, that's fair

[celest vine]

I dont count mods in deciding how good a weapon is

I get mods make the Lucius better to aim

[tropic notch]

Bro only uses braced

[tall torrent]

Because flamer takes away vet’s ranged killing power completely

[viscid marlin]

well when a mod simply removes garbage screen walls a lot of weapons can actually be pretty awesome

[celest vine]

not everyone mods or can mod

[terse idol]

Ooh priestege mechanic

[viscid marlin]

you're right, they should have just add non crap sights into the game

but we have what we have

[celest vine]

Infantry lasguns

[torpid sundial]

man if only the perk was better

[tropic notch]

https://tenor.com/view/puke-vomit-throw-up-sick-gif-17408662

[celest vine]

OOOO im feeling the booze kicking in

[terse idol]

Infantry lasguns are fine

[celest vine]

[terse idol]

Oh my god yall

[tall torrent]

Helbore sights are NOT good
But after putting yourself through enough torture with those sights you’ll eventually learn how to aim with them

[wanton dawn]

Then you give up and use it for the bayonet

[tropic notch]

New zealot buff

[viscid marlin]

or until you are in a dark hallway and cant see the sight post, because some genius in 40k decided to make the sight post black

[terse idol]

Hmmmmmmm

[torn root]

Happy New Year Lady and Gents

[celest vine]

I cann justu use the MG1A and geret just bet or as good kills

yess

[torn root]

IT'S BACK?!

[tropic notch]

I wish

[tall torrent]

1a is fine
1a can’t shoot through Ogryns that are blocking your shots tho

[viscid marlin]

most of the weapons cant

[celest vine]

krka

e

[viscid marlin]

WTB armor pierce blessing

[celest vine]

i mixzxed a 90 proof whisky 5050 witg a bottle of pepsi

im feelijg it mr krabs

[muted knot]

I personally have a lot of them

[celest vine]

[wanton dawn]

Sir, put down that phone

[tropic notch]

Thought that was dreamy bull

[celest vine]

im in pee sea

[wanton dawn]

SIR

[celest vine]

but falllout 3

[wanton dawn]

THINK OF THE CHILDREN

[celest vine]

I thin of he booze

im gonn trol auric missions

[trim steppe]

Happy New Year y'all

May your 2024 be full of 380s that Hadron fails to brick

[viscid marlin]

we can only hope

[fossil basalt]

Bring your 85 rated greys like I do

[stoic mantle]

Worth keeping?

[torn root]

tf does it mean enemy one-shot lmao

horrible mod description

[stoic mantle]

what do you mean what does it mean

its pretty self explantory

1 shot kills

[torn root]

ngl that's bad

[junior needle]

3/4 scuffed, and achlys is inferior to both rashad and antax

[woven geode]

who counts as elite enemies? is this a worth it node

[torn root]

didn't even know a blessing like that existsed, probably for a good reason

[junior needle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies?type=ELITE

[torn root]

Literally all the important dudes

thats aren't monstrosities

[woven geode]

Oh but not specialists

[spring rose]

Very good node

[junior needle]

Well not quite, the most dangerous ones are disablers

[woven geode]

hmm cuz im debating 15% elites or 12% buff from focus target

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ae83beb-ef3d-4814-beb0-ab6db1080129/vet-12

[spring rose]

15% elites is more consistent dps

[woven geode]

dont mind weapons

[torn root]

those included

[spring rose]

12% buff depends on your performance

[torn root]

elites are literally everything you can ping that isnt a monster

[woven geode]

Thanks

[spring rose]

It's very good

[torn root]

oh wait

lies

nononnonono!

super lie

[spring rose]

Elites enemies that can be tagged

But they dont have a sound que when spawning

[torn root]

yes but not all the taggables are elites

[bronze zealot]

how??

[spring rose]

Like gunners for example

Or reapers

Bulwark

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-mike-ehrmantraut-marmok-gif-15491755101192661700

[torn root]

yeah pretty much anything that doesnt really have an audio queue on spawn are specialists

[spring rose]

^

[torn root]

and snipers

[spring rose]

Ragers

Did I say 15% elite node was good? Nah its great

It covers do much

[torn root]

i edited

[woven geode]

oops meant this thoughts

[torn root]

but specialists have audio queues, elites dont

[spring rose]

^

[spring rose]

You already have confirmed kill exilerating takedown is a bit overkill

As long as you're keep doing your job confirmed kill should get you all the toughness you need

[torn root]

fake

can never have too many ways to ensure iron will saves the cheeks

[wind echo]

am i dumb for not using keystones?

[spring rose]

Nonono

[woven geode]

yeah my cheeks get slapped all the time im keeping that thanks tho

[weak token]

no

[wind echo]

k

[weak token]

very smart i would say

[spring rose]

Yeah no problem it's good to take if you need it

But later down the line once you get more confident in your abilities you'll have extra points for more nodes below

[torn root]

ngl there isnt much else damage that you can take on that tree, so I would keep the middle top part

deadshot doesnt work, and i can never recommend marksman

[spring rose]

Deadshot works on my end

[junior needle]

Not at all, going keystoneless is perfectly good

[torn root]

for the emperor is always nice, but not neccesary

[torn root]

plasma rifle

doesnt work

[spring rose]

Ah

That blows lol

[woven geode]

Thanks friends

HNY

[torn root]

uuh

gets hot i dont like

i will never like crit when you can just nuke

same with on kills

[ebon umbra]

volatile is more fun

buut breakpoints

also high heat

[torn root]

volatile is just faster ttk on average

[ebon umbra]

[torn root]

also less rng

[ebon umbra]

volatile for melee scab only no ammo pickups

[torn root]

uuuh, i believe killing crushers faster trumps worrying about melee scabs

[ebon umbra]

its serviceable

not the best

i've just never shaken off the crave for old plasma volatile

[torn root]

Emperor hath mercy on me, i can't put down the P.Sword now

[ebon umbra]

I dropped the psword post patch 13. i think the movement speed shenanigans on the 6 kinda turned me off when chainsword was shining bright

then switched to dclaw

i used to run it all the time. i should run it more often if i wanted more efficiency tbh

[torn root]

burning all my plasteal for brutal momentum 4just so i can kill chaff without having to charge it

100% not needed but instead of getting good i rather swing when the charge gets interrupted

[ebon umbra]

[deft cosmos]

Coming back, are bolter or plasma gun any good now? I yearn to kill elites

[spring rose]

Plasma gun good

[deft cosmos]

Praise be the Emperor

[spare mountain]

plasma gun is insane

it's all I play

they adjusted cleave from 4.15 to 100

[deft cosmos]

Are there any specific traits or stats I should dump/look for

[spare mountain]

I didn't mistype

[deft cosmos]

Surely you mistyped brother

[spare mountain]

I did not

it's a line of death on the x axis

[deft cosmos]

[spare mountain]

p sword for hordes plasma for anything harder

call me uninspired but im cozy af in my little flak armor vest

[deft cosmos]

Is chainsword good for mild cleave and unarmored single target

Or is p sword too delicious

[spare mountain]

the new mk 6 p sword is really nice

but chainsword is really strong rn too

[deft cosmos]

Are you a veteran of the Krak variety or is smoke nade solid

[ebon umbra]

krak is cool but those shredders are nutty

[midnight totem]

I'm getting used to the power sword

[frank ether]

shredders are cool

[midnight totem]

I still like chainsword, but the power sword's sheer power is undeniable

[crisp rapids]

keystones are good, but if your build doesnt need them

dont force yourself

[junior needle]

When your teammates in auric 5's absolutely refuse to pick up resources

[wet pendant]

lol the shovel has such a funny sound when yousmack people with it

[frank ether]

if only you could hoard it for yourself 😔

let me play solo and get 4x plasteel

[junior needle]

2 people literally did not pick up any resources

Only one picked up a small amount

[frank ether]

sometimes its because I'm too slow

or too busy picking up the slack for my team

[crude fiber]

Is that some new way of shaming people or something?

[slate sleet]

no shame is being a redditor

[frank ether]

look what sour milk got for me today

[winter widget]

Question, what's a good autogun and lasgun? Different question, what's good perks and blessings for the boltgun?

[crude fiber]

Wtf thats nearly perfect right out the box lol

[frank ether]

just gotta change thrust with headtaker

and maybe carapace to maniac

but either way its gonna be a godroll

nice

[wanton dawn]

Damn right

[empty badge]

thoughts on this?

obv gloryhunter needs to be changed

[frank ether]

dont think crit damage is good either

rest seem fine

[empty badge]

recommendation for crit dmg replacement?

I have crucian roulette 4 on another revolv, but 0.5% crit chance isn't gonna make me change it

I heard Hand cannon some time back, but I still havn't seen a handcannon blessing so idk what it even does

[frank ether]

Its still a decent option

got a little nerfed recently I think

[empty badge]

whats it do?

[frank ether]

thats the rending one if I remember right

gives u rending

[empty badge]

oooh me gusta

[wanton dawn]

60% rending on crit

[empty badge]

what stat do you recommend for the crit hit dmg change?

[frank ether]

I'd rather take crit chance perk than crit/weakspot damage btw

even thats debateable

Idk enough about revolver breakpoints but

I'd imagine it probably does overkill to flak

[empty badge]

depends on the mob

idk the exact type of armors per mob off the top of my head

[frank ether]

I'd go in meat grinder and pop some mobs, see if maniac or flak targets would benefit from a %25+

I'd imagine maniac could be useful for mutie

but again Idk the breakpoints for revolvo

[empty badge]

2-3 weakspots for muties. but understood ill do that

[frank ether]

since you're modifying that slot you can freely experiment on it

the reason crit dmg sucks is because of how the math works

that %8 only applies to the extra crit damage you deal not to the entire shot

weakspot also works in a similar way

[empty badge]

oh thats terrible

lol

[frank ether]

yeah

but that %25 flat carapace?

[empty badge]

idk what even carapace/flak armored differences are

[frank ether]

Thats just flat damage that will scale better with crits&weakspots anyways

[empty badge]

I need to research that lol

[frank ether]

carapace are

[empty badge]

like which mobs are which

[frank ether]

crushers are fully carapace

maulers are carapace in the head

flak in the body

[empty badge]

ahhh

[frank ether]

bulwark shield is also carapace but you can't shoot through that

bulwark is just dumb

or well, Idk if bulwark shield is ''carapace'' since its not something you can even damage lmao

it just makes that similar sound effect when I hit it

[empty badge]

Noted

the armored guys w/ chainaxes are i presume flak?

[frank ether]

chainswords...

dont you mean

chainaxes

human sized

those are maulers

[empty badge]

ahhjhhh

yeh chainaxes

derp

[frank ether]

they have carapace in the head

and flak in body

[empty badge]

gotcha

[frank ether]

so unless you got a really good armor pen weapon

[empty badge]

so carapace is a good damage modifier

[frank ether]

just hit body

[hardy ember]

Best to aim for their body

[frank ether]

only with certain guns will I bother shooting maulers in the head

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revolv gets pen and crit bonus

[frank ether]

like helbores, revolvers and vraks HH guns

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so better for head i think?

[frank ether]

Well in hordes its easier to shoot at head level to abuse revolver pen anyways

so I just shoot at head level with revolver

with hand cannon and vet talents

you got good rending

It will still hit like a truck, just gotta make sure its a crit

crucian is good

deadshot is also very good

its practically made for revolver

if you play melee veteran you can take deadshot and then take melee specialist which gives you even more crit chance on weapon swap proc

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I cannot get the long bomb pennance for the life of me I tell ya

does anybody know of any methods or tips to make getting the pennance done easier?

[frank ether]

long throw

kaboom

long corridors are ideal

high intensity or maelstorm would make it very easy

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gotcha

the tricky thing is that the grenade cant touch the ground

[vocal cipher]

i unlocked it by throwing it at a horde on the end of the special ammo mission. try that

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a raid mission?

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the one with the special ammo cannisters on the trains

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The end of the ammo getting mission

[crude fiber]

this one is really good for that as well

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I was doing that one earlier, team kept mowing down the hordes before my grenades could go off

[midnight totem]

If you're at the Valk and look at where you dropped down to enter the finale down, and toss a grenade at it, you should get it

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I think I know where you mean, ill give it a try

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https://youtu.be/a-MwABMHDvo?si=scnZ5GWrCzXj6Cg7

Chasm logistrum

I used this video

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They must have upped it to five at some point

but I dont think they need to be kills, cause they changed the wording to "hit"

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Don't have to be kills

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gotcha

Ah bummer, ones open right now but I cant acsess it

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Shame lol

Don't worry about it it'll come in time

I actually finished almost every other vet penance before long bomb

Even the one for 90 percent accuracy and no ammo left

[gleaming turtle]

Download MMT and then save it, and come back once you are 15.

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What is MMT

[gleaming turtle]

Many More Tries.

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Whats that?

[gleaming turtle]

A mod that allows you to run missions long after they fall off the board.

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Makes me wish I finished the Psyker one for monstrosities

Oh, is that allowed in a live service game?

[gleaming turtle]

It's not against the rules if that is what you're asking.

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Basically impossible for me to do it on a private game since I don't have friends who play this game

Im suprised there arent any solo bots in the game yet

[gleaming turtle]

Fatshark has pretty clear rules about what is and isn't allowed, and they haven't banned anyone (to my knowledge) for using banned mods previously unless you continued to use them/tried to circumvent the ban. And the only banned mods were the shirtless one and Vacuum Capsule.

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Ironically you can play solo mode with a mod lol

[gleaming turtle]

Yeah, but the progress doesn't count, so no one uses it.

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I would have prefered bots over players when I was starting out, because for whatever reason there are a lot of high level players who queue up for easy difficulties

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Rushing Missions

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Ah

[gleaming turtle]

^

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And maybe to style on newbies if they're that type of weirdo

"look at me rushing this map it's so ez"

But those tend to be an outlier compared to the "I just wanna do my finish X missions"

[gleaming turtle]

I did the Twins on Malice over 100 times on my Zealot because I hate Zealot and I could do that mission in 4 and a half minutes.

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Its one thing that I didnt like about strikes in destiny wayyy back when I played that

[gleaming turtle]

Versus the 22-30 minutes it takes for a Damnation.

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High level ppl stealin all the fun from the noobies

[crude fiber]

I'll help you out if you want, I have a lights out mission ready so can pretty much guarantee a demon hist spawn

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yknow I thought zealot would be more fun than it actually is

[gleaming turtle]

A lot of people think it is very fun, I do not.

Same goes for Psyker.

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Ive never liked magic classes in just about anything

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Thanks for the offer
Unfortunately I'm on Sea so the range of people I can play with tends to be low 😔
And the ones I do hit are usually speaking Chinese

Always preffered the basic fighting sort

So can't understand them

[crude fiber]

Rip

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@gleaming turtle is this the proper link for the mod? https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/175

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Just depends on what you're looking for
I think all the classes are fun myself

[gleaming turtle]

Yeah it is.

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Cool

[gleaming turtle]

Download the prerequisite mods.

Follow the instructions of those mods.

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Darktide Mod Framework?

[gleaming turtle]

Yeah

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But the most jarirng to me is still Ogryn

thats the only prereq