veteran-class

[ebon umbra]

"its me or the ps5"

[misty quest]

i rotate between knife, powersword, chainsaw and dclaw based on my jimmies

[tiny summit]

Power sword is amazing...when energized. You know what doesn't need to energize? Me trusty shovel and caxes

[crude ermine]

There's just something funny about beating some guy to death with nothing but a shovel

[terse idol]

The krieg liiife

*clunk

[barren cave]

I enjoy the mk13 chainsword , it feels strangely wholesome

[ebon umbra]

a what

[tiny summit]

Like I've been ignoring this guy in my inventory. Ran a couple missions. It be doing work. Nice "get the fuck off me" stick

[midnight totem]

The thunk of the shovel is extremely satisfying

[ebon umbra]

i am going to dclaw anonymous

i have the uncontrollable urge to charge crusher patrols

[tiny summit]

Also I didn't know that it's lights were good for spamming

[crisp rapids]

:XD: i uhh performed more than my entire team summed up

wtf

[tiny summit]

Until your teammate staggers the one you were about to parry and get hit by the other one

[tiny summit]

Did any join late?

[crisp rapids]

nope

[ebon umbra]

im gonna be real ive also been meaning to ask about this. i charge crushers sometimes and they just ignore my weak tiny minimum height vet ass and go for my team

it is humiliating

[crisp rapids]

agrip is just insane

[midnight totem]

I used to run extra 30 damage on infiltrate

[tiny summit]

when you're not 6'

[midnight totem]

But now I run agile engagement instead

It feels so much better

[crisp rapids]

also, the stats are calculated once u join the game

[tiny summit]

I know. I'm asking if they joined late

[crisp rapids]

oh no

they were all in

i joined the "latest" and it was pretty much after the initial drop

[tiny summit]

Lmao

[crisp rapids]

it was just regular dam sure, but come on

how does a +202 vet

doesnt do more than uhh that?

[tiny summit]

Look man...uh supporting the carry

[crisp rapids]

how to NONE of them kill more than 10 elites

melee that is

agrip mk8 just too stronk

[tiny summit]

The agri brauto right?

[crisp rapids]

yes

what a goated weapon

.

[tiny summit]

I find it funny the hardest hitting brauto has the best hipfire

[crisp rapids]

yeah i didnt brace it at all this game

the graia one , you HAVE to brace

since it increases firerrate

[tiny summit]

Nice one. I don't have 1 with dmg blessing atm but it still does work without them

[ebon umbra]

you play NA east?

[crisp rapids]

(which ikeep forgetting)

yes

[tiny summit]

Ah yes. The fuller auto mode

[crisp rapids]

yep

i play south and north america

i am from BRAZIL 🇧🇷

[gusty grail]

Whats teh mod that shows you a crosshair when you're ADS?

[ebon umbra]

okay 1 i'd try to cover up names when talking bout this type of shit but if harken isn't a default name im p sure i've ran into them a few times

pretty chill

if it is a default name

then i still did

let me keep the bromance

[barren cave]

harken is a default name I think

[ebon umbra]

i fucking hate all of you

santa is real

[crisp rapids]

yes?

[ebon umbra]

this is basically what you told me

[barren cave]

no?

[ebon umbra]

[crisp rapids]

santa deniers in shambles

[ebon umbra]

harken claus isnt real

FUCK

[crisp rapids]

after i got my gifts from under the tree

in my living room

[ebon umbra]

HARKEN CLAUS ISNT REAL

[torn gorge]

karken harken

[shadow aurora]

Vet chat deranged as usual i see

[crisp rapids]

if sants is not real, then why doe smy gifts say "from: santa, to: maze"?

[tiny summit]

We can go further

[gusty grail]

If you have a present that says "From Santa" it's litterally from your dad, and if you don't have a dad then it's from your mom pretending to be your dad pretending to be santa 😭

[shadow aurora]

Probably shouldn't but itd be funny so proceed

[tiny summit]

Vet chat should be deranged. It's the marine class

Least crayon eating class chat of the classes.

[barren cave]

oh good, someone actually explained it

[terse idol]

No its from Santa

Wtf you mean

[shadow aurora]

Id say that goes to ogryn chat weirdly enough

People there are pretty civil

[terse idol]

Yeep

[crisp rapids]

look at the fucking mental gymnastics

sants is real , he gave me the gifts

[tiny summit]

It's chill but it isn't number crunching breakpoint talk always in vet chat

[crisp rapids]

tbh a couple of weapons are either "past breakpoint" or "very bad".

cause needing 2 shots with a revolver

to kill a elite

[shadow aurora]

Usually but that usually just frys the brain even more

[crisp rapids]

will fuck u up hard

[hollow cloak]

POWER CYCLER IS GOOD MOBILITY

[crisp rapids]

its less of a problem on full autos

[hollow cloak]

pwoer sword

as good as axe

[tiny summit]

Oh yea. Don't energize then

[hollow cloak]

energizing it is ez

[shadow aurora]

Breakpoints aren't something you should worry bout on stuff like braced yeah

[crisp rapids]

i am running 10% rending, cause it increases my mauler dmg by 10% 🙏

[hollow cloak]

just automatically energize it ever time u swing

[terse idol]

Automatic weapon breakpoints are much less important

[hollow cloak]

muscle memory at this point

[shadow aurora]

Thats why theyre my favorite weapons i dont have to think

[terse idol]

[crisp rapids]

i fucking LOVE agrip mk8

[tiny summit]

comp urge enjoyer

[crisp rapids]

comp ureg?

plasma is fnu, but i feel like a sweat trying to mantian 5 stacks of the dmg buff

[hollow cloak]

plasma gun and psword and u can solo the game

[tiny summit]

Hell yea 2.5% chance of teammate kill for 8s

[hollow cloak]

with grenade regen

[terse idol]

Comp urge is surprisingly good

[tall torrent]

Do u run 15% elite?

[shadow aurora]

Just make sure to run survivalist so you dont have to pick up ammo every five seconds

[crisp rapids]

yes

[crisp rapids]

😔 i dont run that

[shadow aurora]

15?

[tall torrent]

I don’t think u need rending for flak armor with braced autogun?

[shadow aurora]

U mean 10?

[crisp rapids]

15% , on superiority complex

[shadow aurora]

Oh

[crisp rapids]

it gives me from 2000 dps on a mauler, to 2200

so am happy

[hollow cloak]

true

[tiny summit]

Well considering all the kill hogging you doing from the previous game, I guess it'd not be that useful

[crisp rapids]

😔 kill hoggin wtf is that?

[tall torrent]

That’s a relatively small dps increase that can be spent elsewhere imo

[shadow aurora]

Survivalist needs to get giga nerfed tbh

[tiny summit]

You took all the kills man

[crisp rapids]

i am just killing shit, if my team cant kill the gunner shooting at them next to them

i will kill it

the gun plays by itself

[tiny summit]

But they need to kill it for the 2.5% to proc comp urge!

[crisp rapids]

exectutioner stance lasts forever

i am CONSTANTLY playing hotline miami songs / freebird on my head

with taht gnu

[tiny summit]

Brautos: Emprah take my aim

[hollow cloak]

gonna try this pupy out

[crisp rapids]

brautos haev insanelly good hipfires

[tiny summit]

How to kill off all survivalist debate and move on. Make basic version baked into all 3 vet auras with a small bonus on top. No one bitches about no ammo aura, no talent taxes, and the only people you kinda annoy are the very small population who feel the aura breaks the game. While avoiding pissing people off by removing it

[crisp rapids]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84q83skr_tk me when executioner stance pops and i get resets on any ranged

[terse idol]

It breaks the game we should kill it

Add more ammo drops on map

[shadow aurora]

Im not saying it needs to be removed the ammo just needs to have like

A 50% chance or something

[tiny summit]

Counter argument. People like shooting

[tall torrent]

Nah

[terse idol]

Counter argument, some classes don't even shoot thar much

[shadow aurora]

Care to explain

[tiny summit]

Yea but those that shoot want to

[terse idol]

Like, lord forbid you don't run into the 4 class split

Okay okay I'm gonna say it but it's fine to want to shoot that's why we have ammo pickups

[crisp rapids]

i like shooting

[near shore]

Lmaooo the burst dmg on this build id nutty

[tall torrent]

There’re ways to nerf survivalist without making it random proc

[fossil basalt]

They need to buff the other vet auras

[tiny summit]

No explanation, 0.75% or lower would be enough to sustain some ammo

[fossil basalt]

15% movespeed LETS GOOOOOOO

[near shore]

10% dmg inc

[shadow aurora]

What if youre gun has less than 100 reserves tho

You gonna get half a bullet?

[terse idol]

The other vet aura needs to be mobility

Not just movement speed

[fossil basalt]

Pick a better gun /j

[tiny summit]

Gotta make it giga broken to make them look good vs free ammo from the immaterium

[near shore]

Stamina Regen?

[shadow aurora]

I will erase you from existence

[near shore]

+20% stamina Regen in aura

[fossil basalt]

Would you accept ammo from daemons? Didn't think so

[tall torrent]

It already does that

If your reserve ammo is <100, let’s say 70
One survivalist proc will not give you ammo (because it’s 0.7)
2 procs give 1 ammo (1.4)
3 procs give another 1 ammo (2.1)

[shadow aurora]

Oh neato

[terse idol]

Would rather have an opportunity to give me more dodge
I already have 3x stamina regen curios

[tall torrent]

Takes 2 elite/special kills to get 1 ammo on mk2 revolver

[shadow aurora]

Yeah i guess thatd work

[tall torrent]

Takes 3 elite/special kills to get 3 ammo on plasma gun

That’s already how it works rn

[shadow aurora]

You wouldnt download a magazine

[tiny summit]

I would

[near shore]

While yes,that wouldn't go with aura perks I think. I think stamina Regen and movement speed would make sense

[terse idol]

Hmm

[crisp rapids]

id say make the lower ammo u are, the more the lil tin gives

[terse idol]

You may as well give sprint reduction

[crisp rapids]

so it doesnt feel such a shit show competing for ammo

[near shore]

Ya that works as well

[shadow aurora]

Think it'd still be better for it to give you only like 0.5 ammo tho 0.75 is still alot

[terse idol]

Which I think is still bad!

[tall torrent]

There aren’t that many builds that really need a lot of ammo

[terse idol]

Its nooot

[tall torrent]

Gunlugger ogryn
Gun psyker
Plasma vet

That’s about it

[crisp rapids]

agrip sadly does need quite a bit

brautio

[tiny summit]

Ammo aura + helbore + shock trooper = I have escaped the apes fighting for the boxes of lead

[tall torrent]

Not that much

[fossil basalt]

And the ones that do are either really really good or really really bad XD

[terse idol]

Gaining ammo on revolver no matter how small is still important

[shadow aurora]

No i think im right

[crisp rapids]

but good thing , in higherdifficulties

u deal with soo many shotgunnenrs and gunners

[terse idol]

Most lasguns have no problem with ammo

[crisp rapids]

and the baurto kills a lot by colalteral

[tall torrent]

Well excluding recon lasguns and autopistol I think all of them are pretty good

[terse idol]

Survivalist is made more for like, columnus or dah pgun

[crisp rapids]

like shoot a random horde trash enemy, 2 other ones dies, and u start hitting the shotgunners intsantly

[shadow aurora]

Any bolter build

[terse idol]

Or revolver even

[tiny summit]

They don't. Helbores are just excellent at it

[tall torrent]

Survivalist has the lowest return on plasma guns

[terse idol]

Any bit helps doe but yeah

Naw you right

[tall torrent]

Because it scales off reserve ammo

[terse idol]

It just uhh

[tall torrent]

You get 1.3 for elite/special and it uses 3 per shot

[fossil basalt]

Hot take: Recons need to be bad so when we get the volley gun it has a use

[terse idol]

Frankly I don't even run lasgun ammo return on my kantrael Ia or my MXIII

Just take 1 small ammo tin

Boom done

[tall torrent]

You don’t run survivalist to keep plasma gun fed with ammo
You run survivalist with plasma so your teammates get fed with ammo and you can hog all the ammo tins

[terse idol]

I don't think you need it on helbore eithe

[shadow aurora]

Even if you dont need ammo for your build survivalist is still the best aura tbh. It gives your team so much utility

[tiny summit]

Yea but I shoot more

[terse idol]

If you have survivalist

[tiny summit]

And I want to shoot more

[terse idol]

Kantrael IA shoots a bunch

I shoot into hordes sometimes

Still no ammo problem

[tiny summit]

And I can shoot more with blissful ignorance with survivalist

[terse idol]

I just think survivalist is bad game design

[shadow aurora]

Maybe a little but its fun as hell to shoot infinitely

[fossil basalt]

I think the only game I've had ammo issues with a lasrifle is when there was a gunker that had just started Damnation and was magdumping hordes

[tall torrent]

The “bad design” part only really shows because Gunlugger ogryn and gun Psyker basically do not function properly without a survivalist vet on the team

[tiny summit]

It isn't bad itself. It's more so how it all comes together.

[terse idol]

You never shoot "infinetly" even my friend who has gun lugger still had to find one or two ammo boxes

[tall torrent]

Zealot doesn’t need that much ammo to begin with

[terse idol]

It conserves ammo

[lofty lintel]

Correct

[shadow aurora]

Bolter zealot

[lofty lintel]

Its overkill

Shock trooper is only really good on recon lasguns

[terse idol]

Well

Not eeally

[tall torrent]

Bolter’s magdump playstyle is not that great now

[terse idol]

Because there's an internal cooldown I heard of

[lofty lintel]

The ammo efficiency of the other lasguns is already insanely high

[terse idol]

You'll never be ammo efficient even with that talent on a tecon

[tall torrent]

It’s almost mandatory for HB3 if anyone is into CBT enough to use that gun

Because it makes HB3 get incredibly high continue fire uptime without reloads

[shadow aurora]

Bolter needs to be changed idk how but rn it simply does not feel good to use

[terse idol]

Like yeah it's mandatory, you still won't ever have an ammo surplus

[tiny summit]

Yea but Darktide is a mix of melee and shooting. Shooting is fun therefore that's greater importance than people reeeing about ammo economy.

[terse idol]

I mean

The ammo drops in the map give you enough

Its a balance

And if you want to shoot into hordes uh

Run columnus

[tiny summit]

Not enough to shoot as much as I want to ty very much

[lofty lintel]

I rarely have ammo problems without shock trooper on helbores

[terse idol]

Like what's the point of ogryn grenadine if vet can just shoot into the horde to take it out

I dunno maybe my logic is flawed

But it's silly

[fossil basalt]

NGL knowing which weapons should sustain on tins and which guns should sustain off packs can solve anything a lack of scav aura brings

[tall torrent]

HB2 is the best out of the 3 HBs from ammo & breakpoint perspective
It actually gets positive ammo returns from killing most enemies

[tiny summit]

You don't. But I also like not thinking

[terse idol]

Its nice being able to shoot freely but at some point it's so silly

[lofty lintel]

Ammo wise, yes

[terse idol]

Because then the game turns into

Just shoot

[lofty lintel]

Dps wise ive found the helbore 1 to be king but i could be wrong

[terse idol]

No think

[lofty lintel]

Also depends on how comfortable you are with the weapon

[tall torrent]

HB1 has better flamer breakpoint and if u build for it, could 1 tap flamers in the head with crit
That’s about it

[tiny summit]

Its a toss up. Mk1 will reliably 1 tap more enemies. Mk2's charge speed can make up for it. Been running mk2 more lately over mk1

[tall torrent]

It’s easier to roll for than HB2 that’s for sure

[lofty lintel]

Yeah

[tall torrent]

HB2 needs some serious godroll to get all its breakpoints

[lofty lintel]

Thats what i mean by it just depends on how you use the helbores

[tall torrent]

HB1 you can get away with a bit more leeway

[tiny summit]

One thing I like about Mk2 is not needing onslaught

[lofty lintel]

Mk1 suits me best

[tiny summit]

Already charges fast enough

[lofty lintel]

Onslaught is amazing on hb2

[tall torrent]

But even on a HB1 you’re still in a net neutral ammo with survivalist alone

[tiny summit]

Not saying it's bad just you aren't gonna hurt w/o it unlike mk1 or 2

[lofty lintel]

Oh yeah for sure

But its the ideal blessing for all 3 helbores

[tiny summit]

Been actually like no respite and surgical

[lofty lintel]

You can get away without surgical on hb2 and run deadshot instead

Ive never seen anybody with no respite surgical..

[tall torrent]

6 per charged shot
Gun 1 taps both gunners, both flamers, bomber, trapper, sniper, both shotgunners
Bayonet 2 stab mutants, 1 stab hounds, 3-4 stab ragers
Very consistent 2 tap reapers to the head

It’s very very good ammo economy

[lofty lintel]

Onslaught surgical on mk1 and 3 onslaught no respite on hb2 is what i see a lot

[near shore]

deadshot is doing well on my autogun, i have nutty burst dmg

[tiny summit]

I like it. Good stagger on enemies it doesn't 1 tap

I just don't see the point in onslaught. I do notice the increase charge speed but it charges fast enough

[lofty lintel]

Deadshot does well with everything but its overkill on helbore mk1 and 3 because surgical does the job without the stamina drain

[lofty lintel]

Literally more dps

[tiny summit]

Want my crit for less ammo from my mag

[lofty lintel]

You shoot more fully charged shots in less time

[tall torrent]

Whereas HB2 (true godroll)
4 ammo per charged shot
Gun 1 taps both gunners, bomber, trapper, sniper, both shotgunners, & can crit 1 tap both flamers
Very consistent 2 tap reapers in the head
Bayonet 3-4 stab ragers, 2 stab mutants, 1 stab hounds & both flamers

You only ever run out on HB2 if you’re shooting at maulers & crushers too much

[lofty lintel]

I just use mk3 shovel for those

[near shore]

devil claw gang

[tropic notch]

[tall torrent]

It’s nice for that dps boost if you’re gonna be shooting at maulers and crushers, and helps deal with mass gunners faster

[ebon umbra]

devil claw gang

[lofty lintel]

Yeah

[tropic notch]

Chainsword or devil claw is my go to

[tiny summit]

Maybe I'll give it another try with onslaught again

[near shore]

gotta love bullying bosses and ragers

[near shore]

ive got my chain axe to one shot crushers

[empty creek]

gnarly little blaster

[tropic notch]

Power sword is good but it feels to slow

[lofty lintel]

Wow wow wow

Ps6 too slow?

[tall torrent]

I want that autogun skin

[lofty lintel]

Do you have pc4 on your power sword

[tropic notch]

Yeah

[lofty lintel]

Damn

[ebon umbra]

i prefer trench drill on psword but im a fucking brat

[lofty lintel]

Trench drill is the 10% attack speed boost right

[tall torrent]

Power sword is kind of clunky imo without weapon specialist

[lofty lintel]

Desperado wep specialist pc4 power sword is insane

[paper furnace]

im a right tree power sworder its so nuts

[tropic notch]

illis force sword over power sword

[lofty lintel]

I see

I also run trench drill on my melee vet builds

[paper furnace]

like an electric razor through the heratic pubes

[lofty lintel]

Ahahaha the force sword feels too slow for me

I guess its just a matter of preference

[empty creek]

muh

[tall torrent]

The force swords have significantly better dodges

[tropic notch]

Maybe I need the trench fighter for it ngl I haven’t tried it with that

[tall torrent]

I need that

[paper furnace]

thats what my shout/stealth button is for

[tiny summit]

Wish for a blessing that turns the force sword power up into a toggle

[paper furnace]

who needs to dodge just kill everything

[ebon umbra]

in theory psykers are literally neo for some reason

[empty creek]

kinda crazy how nobody is probably going 2 ever get that gun ever again BC it was part of a uniform bundle & when that bundle cycled thru a 2nd time, the weapon skin had been removed

[tiny summit]

Every swipe generating peril

[tropic notch]

Fr

[tropic notch]

Venting shriek

[paper furnace]

this is what 40k people love though, exclusivity at outrageous prices

[tiny summit]

Sciers + quell on weakspot + toggle force sword. Imma ride the line

[empty creek]

even the buttstock has shit on it

[tropic notch]

I’ll need to try trench fighter with force sword

[empty creek]

my build

[lofty lintel]

I mean i think we all agree that nobody likes the cosmetic shop system

[tropic notch]

Pixels

[paper furnace]

iff your butt has shit on it you need to wipe more or get a bidet

[near shore]

why was it so tiny lmao

[tropic notch]

[empty creek]

please send more shitty tiny screenshots i recently got my

do not delete that i need it

[tropic notch]

What’s better psyker or vet?

[lofty lintel]

I havent seen a single person agree with the current microtransactions system theyre doing

[tall torrent]

Need more items available at a time with faster rotations at a minimum

[lofty lintel]

Different

[ebon umbra]

controversial take: i like hallowette

[near shore]

listen, i dont ever take em im tryna figure it out

[lofty lintel]

Ive said my take on the predatory marketing system before but ill say it again

[vivid bolt]

This is a cold take

[tiny summit]

Main issues: Rotating items, rather have rotating sales. Recolors are full price for same model. In-game currency cosmetic store neglected

[empty creek]

windows key + shift + s

[vivid bolt]

People don’t disagree, we just hate the system

[lofty lintel]

All recolors should be compressed into a palette/tint system, add a catalogue that lets you see all cosmetics and the last time they were in rotation and dont make the cosmetics stupidly overpriced

And there you go a user friendly microtransaction system that will actually get you more money

[empty creek]

drag & snip the bit U want then it's in ur ctrl + v

[tropic notch]

Also how much does finesse affect the power sword?

[lofty lintel]

And make the rotation 1 week instead of 2

2 weeks without a timer is fucking insane

[tropic notch]

Fr

[gusty grail]

Does anyone know teh mod to see crosshairs when ADS? it seems like that mod is manditory if I'm going to use the Columbus IAG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugEXsqMGl0A&t=119s&ab_channel=TannerLindberg

[lofty lintel]

It looks like fatshark made the cosmetic shop for their dogs and cats at home

Unbelievable

[empty creek]

i have it, just want the file straight-up?

[vivid bolt]

Important stat

[tropic notch]

You guys think there gonna add versus in the game like vermintide?

[gusty grail]

thanks but if you can give me a name or a link to the mod that sounds safer

[vivid bolt]

Shame about the perks

[empty creek]

figured, give me a moment

[tropic notch]

Well duh I have it 80

[gusty grail]

Thankyou

[tiny summit]

maybe but don't expect

[near shore]

they work well, maybe not the last but itll do

[tropic notch]

I was just wondering how much it affected it

[tiny summit]

We waited how long for news of vermintide vs?

[vivid bolt]

I’d swap unyielding to flak personally

[tropic notch]

Imagine going against a smite psyker

[near shore]

ive got the brittle perk, so not needed, bulid is loading rn

[vivid bolt]

And can’t do much abt the weakpoint perk sadly

[empty creek]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/253 @gusty grail

[gusty grail]

Thank you frien

[gusty grail]

its so silly that the point of aim on the columbus doesn't stay where the ironsight is pointing

u basically need this mod to use it, seems like

[empty creek]

im using an older version but it should allow U 2 pick what crosshairs appear (or if they appear @ all) w/ all weapons & during aimed / unaimed behaviors

[tall torrent]

Isn’t versus just officially announced for VT2

[empty creek]

suuuper straight forward

[tropic notch]

Yeah

[tall torrent]

I’d much rather they focus on pve side of stuff for darktide

[tiny summit]

I'd personally get redirect fire over 8 stacks. I only go for 8 stacks if I'm getting all of them

[tall torrent]

PvP is a whole new can of stuff I don’t think they’ll get right that quickly

[near shore]

its a burst bulid, i dont feel like 6% is really worth it. i took it to help shred bosses and crushers

[empty creek]

honestly im just waiting 4 them 2 make animations 4 vaulting

[lofty lintel]

They wont

[empty creek]

darktide doesn't have em yet

[tall torrent]

This should be order of priority for middle keystone modifiers

[lofty lintel]

And theres many important issues going on that are priority over pvp

^

[gusty grail]

imagine pvp but u can invade as a poxwalker. A good player could still hide in some corner and fuck up a psyker in two melee hits lol

[ebon umbra]

i just wanna play as a poxburster

[tiny summit]

It's more of general value. Max stack redirect fire buff stays topped off even if you kill a tag with 1/2 stacks

[viscid marlin]

Plasma gun with a full charge on non crit can one shot crushers with right keystone, i always pick that first.

Well modifier*

mid keystone, right modifier

[near shore]

ya think they should buff the inc stacks then? perhaps, a stack every second instead of 2

[jaunty spindle]

What to change?

[viscid marlin]

well its a recon so.. the gun 😂

sorry.

[jaunty spindle]

I bash your skull in with a rock

[empty creek]

also has anyone been getting a lot of latency on the higher difficulties? im having a lot of unregistered inputs & rubber banding when i try & play auric & maelstrom

[near shore]

use the blue color one, not that one

[viscid marlin]

literally for two entire patches

[tiny summit]

Save until Fatshark buffs recon

[empty creek]

i have way mroe fun on the higher difficulties BC there is more shit 2 kill but it gets very frustrating very fast when im getting thrown around by lag that i cant predict

[tall torrent]

The issue is you’re not understanding how middle keystone functions

Every tagged enemy killed (quickly) will refresh the stack value you have to a minimum of 2
This is how it’s meant to be used: tag something, kill it quickly, repeat

Redirect fire gives you an additional 7.5% damage buff on top of 8% damage on every tagged enemy (because minimum of 2 stacks), for 15.5% more dmg against that target by your whole team

8 stacks take a very long time to build, and functionally is only ever taken to boost redirect fire from 7.5% to 12% dmg bonus (+4.5%)

[near shore]

im aware of how it works, i take it for boss dmg. yes i get that its a constant buff ( for the most part)

i just swapped it for demo team

[ebon umbra]

but lots of things can cover boss dmg without that talent. if ur running twins i'd take it.

[tall torrent]

Even for bosses redirect fire is generally better, it’s pretty rare on AM or HiSTG to have boss spawn without a bunch of elites & specials

Only time I’d take 8 stacks is for twins

[ebon umbra]

demo team is so worth it

[tiny summit]

Demo team supremacy

[near shore]

well i dont have frag regen perk, so demo

[tiny summit]

HSTG thank you, more grenades please

[tall torrent]

This is what I use rn

[tiny summit]

He's exe

[ebon umbra]

what i love about demo team is that when you need it the most it procs

[tall torrent]

I’m heavily debating dropping the 3 points on bottom right for 10% melee dmg and demo team

[viscid marlin]

i would

[ebon umbra]

take demo team

[tall torrent]

Also debating dropping target down for demo team

[viscid marlin]

but i also have field improv and tinkerer

[tall torrent]

Redirect fire is a pretty sizeable dmg buff

[ebon umbra]

10% melee dmg it depends on how often u melee but most sane people melee often

i mean u know this

idk why im explaining

[tall torrent]

5% melee + desperado gives me slightly better breakpoints than 10% melee but costs 1 more point

[tiny summit]

Born Leader

[tall torrent]

So I’m considering dropping smth

Prob target down?

[near shore]

born leader is...hmmm

[tiny summit]

I use it

[ebon umbra]

i would drop target down bcuz im selfish

[near shore]

i think in a pure suppourt i would, but otherwise

[tiny summit]

You can send me the tips for that 3 toughness I gave you

[viscid marlin]

depends on the weapon i think

[tiny summit]

On my exe helbore. I'm clicking so many heads and gunners that my team is getting maybe something

[tall torrent]

If you’re running glory hunter plasma with ET + CK, born leader is not a bad node

[near shore]

just spent 250k lets see what i got

[tall torrent]

In basically any other case, born leader is not that great

[near shore]

hah got a 380

[ebon umbra]

i wish born leader was betteeeeeerreeee

[tiny summit]

For The Emperor in my opinion is pretty stupid if you're using exe to clear out rifleman and gunners. You get 5s of extra dmg on cast when it can last so long

[near shore]

im willing to accept the extra stamina

[tall torrent]

This would give your teammates 101 toughness (74 immediately, 27 over 20s) after u kill 9 elites with headshots

[tiny summit]

Hadron didn't fuck you? What you paying her? What favors did you do?

[near shore]

im unsure about the second blessing tho

[viscid marlin]

frenzy

[near shore]

showed her 2023 memes

[viscid marlin]

personally i prefer raking fire but everyone and their mother loves dumdum and fire frenzy

[near shore]

granted i spent 250k on all this weapon, and got 1 380

hear me out, dont kill me

stripped down....

[viscid marlin]

if you put stripped down

on a role like that

i will personally commit seppuku on myself

just do i dont have to know that exists

[tiny summit]

I mean isn't it for your boss killer? Raking fire would be good.

[ebon umbra]

when did you think of this

[trim steppe]

IMO you take dumdum + just about anything, depending on what you like

[tiny summit]

Stop doing math

[near shore]

its a brust dmg, crack head weapon for this bulid

[viscid marlin]

i love raking fire, it comes in clutch a lot more then people realize

[near shore]

im tryna get in there and destroy

[tiny summit]

When you finally get to shoot a BoN in the back

[viscid marlin]

exe or command?

[viscid marlin]

oh yea it wrecks those

[ebon umbra]

a meta where plasma toughness regen 4 the team would be p meme

[viscid marlin]

i mean exhilarating takedown plus confirmed kill and glory hunter is probably a lot of toughness

[near shore]

i do wonder how quickly id shred a beast of nurgle with the bulid and raking ontop of dumdum

[viscid marlin]

fast

[tall torrent]

Like today, why

[near shore]

let me list out my buffs after this mission lol

[tall torrent]

Cuz someone rolled gloryhunter earlier in this chat

[ebon umbra]

just curious that sounds like it would have been a great conversation to be a part of

still trying to be more dynamic in thought

[viscid marlin]

i like raking fire because none of the others outside of dumdum really make it feel like much of a difference, and when i want to get something off of an ally, i really need it to happen fast. and raking fire just helps with that a lot.

[ebon umbra]

v original

[tall torrent]

I think GH4 + ET + CK with born leader is a legitimate playstyle with plasma and I prob would applaud anyone who actually plays that

Because mathematically that does not sound all that bad

[tiny summit]

Columnus just works so good with dumdum and that everything else is just whatever. So raking fire is a significant bonus when it can be used

[terse idol]

You could go weird with a Las pistol with glory hunter

[viscid marlin]

ill try it later and let you know how it goes because i have one with a max gloryhunter and decent rolls

uh

las pistol cant get gloryhunter

[tall torrent]

And the only blessing that really benefits plasma killing power are blaze away & gets hot but neither is that huge in boosting dps

[terse idol]

Or the equivalent

[viscid marlin]

there isnt one

[ebon umbra]

i'll give this a go when i get back home from a trip. i'll do randos but i also am reallly curious to see how this would play with a few of my psykers/pulling this out with psyker heavy pub teams

[tiny summit]

There isnt

[ebon umbra]

if m1 gets nerfed blaze away will be in trouble prob

[tiny summit]

You just got ET and CK for laspistol

[tall torrent]

Laspistol has reassuringly accurate which is pretty meh

[viscid marlin]

nothing for las pistols that heal toughness

[hearty panther]

reassuring

[tiny summit]

Oh

Shows how little I use laspistol

[viscid marlin]

i guess that exists but

[terse idol]

Gear it up for born leader and crits

And uh, you could share alot

[viscid marlin]

its only on a crit kill and 16% at max

[tall torrent]

RA is not that good

[hearty panther]

Better than you think

But not the best

[tiny summit]

It being on crit kill is lame though

[terse idol]

Doesn't the Las pistol have some innate crit anyways?

[hearty panther]

By default 1/5 shots crit and most crits kill

[tall torrent]

RA is prob better on mk10 than mk2 cuz mk10 actually has crit 1 tap breakpoints

[viscid marlin]

yeah

[tiny summit]

But it's still a chance to get any value

[terse idol]

And its seemingly on every kill

So you could kill like 10 shooters

[formal rock]

yep, 15% on laspistol + 5% innate vet crit chance

[terse idol]

Share that toughness back

[viscid marlin]

crit only

[terse idol]

Yeah

With deadeye?

Its not consistent

[tall torrent]

Laspistol is by default 1/5 crit (on avg)
Except you can’t guarantee the shot that kills is a crit because the crits aren’t high enough for most breakpoints

[terse idol]

[viscid marlin]

i just use dumdum and infernus on las pistols

[tall torrent]

The only way u get crit breakpoints with laspistol are:
Mk10 (atrociously difficult to roll for breakpoints)
Mk2 (if you’re gonna play MF keystone)

[untold mulch]

Question Weapon Spec is still with an incorrect tooltip right? only does 1 crit guaranteed instead of a scaling up to 30% crit?

[viscid marlin]

yes

[tall torrent]

Crit chance for first shot

[formal rock]

RA works just as well on groaners and poxers as it does on elites 😉

[echo vortex]

I need some assistance im running this build below:

My dama is atrocious keep doing around 300k (croush aim shooting with the autogun) and hardly killing any specials
Any tips?
Sorry for the long post

[untold mulch]

first of all lmao

second thank you

[viscid marlin]

its just ported over code from blessed shot in v2

[untold mulch]

Obese Fish peak work

[terse idol]

It should give you extra crit chance for the remaining stacks don't it

[tall torrent]

It still has that consistency problem

[untold mulch]

No clue, thats what I am asking

[tiny summit]

No dumdum complete botched build /j but I don't see any problem

[terse idol]

Gotta bring out the text book

[echo vortex]

Humm i wasnt lucky with the rolls tried to see if worked that way

guess back to farming

[tiny summit]

This is what I use for my colmunus because I don't like deadshot

[formal rock]

Agreed. I do think it's a legit possibility, if hardly optimal and rather meme-y.
I like it because it reminds me of that one lulzy Commissar perk from DoW:II, where he has the brilliant idea to restore his guardsmen's morale by executing an enemy soldier instead of one of his own. Bloody genius that Commissar is.

Wouldn't bring it into Auric Damnation though.

[echo vortex]

wthanks gonna grab dumdum and try it

[barren cave]

That's not exclusive to that one commissar either, most of em are straight up allowed to do that, for the same purpose

Especially to psykers

[hardy ember]

Hellguns on the way?

[tropic imp]

It scales up to 300% crit chance

[untold mulch]

Any day now

[tropic imp]

If you only have 1 or 2 stacks you dont get a guaranteed crit

[untold mulch]

I remember at launch people going that it only really mattered for the first hit

[tropic imp]

Yup its only the first shot, but you get 30% crit chance on it per stack

[untold mulch]

which is kinda shit, because then is only very useful in a few guns

[tropic imp]

Good on weapons with crit strings

For example laspistol gets 2 crits in a row with it

And recon 3

Vraks 3 too

[untold mulch]

recon crit strings is a opitiful 2

[crude ermine]

I think I might've just seen the worst ogryn in auric dam

Join in progress, attempt to help the vet

Freed the two ogryns, they fuck off somewhere

Leaves me and the vet as I get pounced and the other has to make a mad dash

Everyone but the ogryn goes down, casually walks like his controller or kbm is sens 2 (idk if he was console or not)

Walks with his kickback out and just doesn't shoot

Runs over to instead of trying to rev starts smacking the one mauler, eats an overhead; goes down and leaves.

[tropic imp]

Oh! Didn't know that

[crude ermine]

How the hell do you somehow suck that bad with ogryn of all classes

[untold mulch]

it was nerfed to the ground

[tiny summit]

Pour 1 out for recons. They lived for 1 patch

Still workable but damn are they outclassed overall w/ dps and ammo economy

[hardy ember]

Recon lasguns are pretty bad. They need a buff

[tiny summit]

Or...everything is too powerful

[untold mulch]

nah recons suck

[tiny summit]

Fatshark: OH! Recons suck? OK. Nerfs everything to give recons parity

[formal rock]

speaking of recons, is there a site where weapon changelogs are archived? people keep talking about buffs and nerfs but I'm having a hard time finding how they get the info, or how a given weapon has been buffed/nerfed over time

[tall torrent]

Fatshark posted pretty extensive notes for patch14

[near shore]

ok so, i got fire frenzy 4 on my autogun. this is nice, howver....im thinking raking fire to shred bosses

[burnt flame]

brunt still thinks its christmas

[formal rock]

ah of course, thanks. I was hoping there'd be a place where we could see all the changes to a specific weapon together. combing through multiple big patchnotes to study just one weapon is some effort

[near shore]

fuck im jealous

[burnt flame]

he also has whatever the hell is going on here

[untold mulch]

At this rate?

People complainin about Recons? They must be overperforming nerf them again

Is a fucking jokethey have been shit for 95% of the game

[near shore]

im gonna take unyielding and raking fire

[burnt flame]

I just just my helbore and call it good

[near shore]

i will destroy a beast of nurgle

[tiny summit]

Mk1 with no onslaught/surgical I weep

[lapis hedge]

dont need that when you got a bayonet

[near shore]

do i keep stamina of specalist dmg?

[tiny summit]

I would keep the dmg. It's already lvl 4

[burnt flame]

why use that when i can 2 shot crushers on damnation?

[near shore]

i might keep it

[tiny summit]

I don't like mk1 charge speed

[near shore]

get the charging perk

[burnt flame]

i actually quite enjoy it. Though my playstyle is very methodical as a vet

[junior needle]

Only the 6d was performing well that patch ironically, the others still weren’t great

[bitter turtle]

OK no respite is legit to tstab

[burnt flame]

i do just stand in the back picking of specials and elites for my team

[bitter turtle]

But why falter

[burnt flame]

Nothing feels better than getting an 8 feed of ragers while your team is killing a horde

[tiny summit]

Fair. Helbores good

[lapis hedge]

just run up and bayonet spam

[burnt flame]

falter and no respite were the ones it upgraded with

[untold mulch]

and then fatshark went, we can't allow that

[burnt flame]

the two together with all the other perks shoot the damage through the roof on the helbore

[near shore]

does deadshot care how much stamina u have? ive got on a +3 but i think it doeent matter since deadshot is % based

[tiny summit]

Fatshark gib anti-carapace bayonet. Promise it won't be broken

[bitter turtle]

Falter is not dmg

It's stagger

[junior needle]

No longer % based for a bit now

[burnt flame]

alter is not damage

[near shore]

lemme double check

[burnt flame]

no respite is damage

damage based off of stagger

[untold mulch]

is a flat stamina use now

I use deadshot with my laspistol

[bitter turtle]

Hb bayo already stagger everything tho 🤔

[near shore]

ah, ill drop the extra stamina then

[burnt flame]

with falter and no respite im able to stun lock things and just nuke them

[bitter turtle]

That's why no respite is actually legit over surg onslaught imo

If you use it as a spear with a gun attached

[burnt flame]

im usually to far back to use the bayonet. Though its great for if something gets close to me

[near shore]

i see the bayonet as a "oh fuck poxburster jumoing at me" thing

[bitter turtle]

SMH not using the better part of the weapon

[burnt flame]

I use all the parts of the weapon

my build just specifically has me in the back

[tiny summit]

I love when the burster jumps through the corner of a wall as I'm being stab happy

[bitter turtle]

Thats literally the only time you don't bayo

You can't push

[near shore]

it staggers

[bitter turtle]

[tiny summit]

Gotta cut open the ticking pinata

[bitter turtle]

It does so much dmg you are liable to pop it

[near shore]

pretty sure u can stagger a pox with bayo IF its jumoing at u

[tiny summit]

You will pop it

[bitter turtle]

Ya you can but I would rather swap and push than risk the pop

[tiny summit]

There is no stagger only kill

[bitter turtle]

Bayonet is extremely high dmg lol

[near shore]

oof

i never used it on the lazgun

i just swap to melee

[tiny summit]

Yea. Poxburster is like legit the only reason you would HAVE to swap

Or shoot it from far enough away

[near shore]

do all marks pop him?

[bitter turtle]

Probably

[tiny summit]

Idk about 3 but probably

[near shore]

i thought dif marks did dif bayo dmg

[burnt flame]

That is the perfect time to bayonet

[bitter turtle]

This is before the bayo nerf

But

https://i.gyazo.com/152fb3a03c1bd4a2276e2e78a23c326d.png

Look at the overkill dmg vs normal dmg

[burnt flame]

If you dont bayonet the pox burster, youre not a real gamer

[bitter turtle]

This is bc i was skewering the horde

The bayonet does insane per stab

I would not skewer a buster hoping it does not pop lul

[near shore]

well if its already jumping at you....

[tiny summit]

You'll pop it

[bitter turtle]

Well if ur already fucked I guess its worth a shot lul

Should pair bayonet with a fast melee swap for pushes

[near shore]

thats wht i mean, if ur already fucked, might as well gamble

[bitter turtle]

Like tac axes

[near shore]

i use devil claw

[bitter turtle]

With Bromentum

[tiny summit]

My least used weapon class

[bitter turtle]

I don't actually use it

Aside from pushing

On my bayonet build

[burnt flame]

also, no respite works for the bayonet as well

[bitter turtle]

[near shore]

devil claw + ahrippina shotgun is my usual

[bitter turtle]

It's just there for the push and magical bromentum blessing on my bayo

[near shore]

shotgun gang

[tiny summit]

Torn between having an axe with brutal momentum or the satisfying thumps when I want to use a shovel during hordes.

[near shore]

how serious is the bulid with it

[bitter turtle]

Bayonet?

[near shore]

if goofing, then go bonk for fun

[plush dragon]

agrossipina

[bitter turtle]

Shovel is good

[near shore]

look at this goof using a bayo, gotta parry a demon host

[near shore]

skill issue

[plush dragon]

LOL

i just like the guarenteed bullet penetration on kantreal

[near shore]

the kantrel sucks

i hate the weapon,it has to be worse shotgun

[plush dragon]

agrippina only hits the first target and doesnt pierce through hordes

[near shore]

it will pierce if u hip fire

[plush dragon]

its right click only does like a third of the lawbringer or slugger but goes through everything to get a sniper through shitters

changed then, lawbringer used to be like that

[near shore]

ill test it right now

but last i heard, all shotguns have 1 pen, but kantrel keeps it while ads

[plush dragon]

last it waas that lawbringer hip fire and kant have pen

[near shore]

it does subpar dmg for only having half the ammo

[plush dragon]

ammo aura makes up big time, effective %2 on that

[hazy basin]

if the height of your character is smaller, can you dodge bullets better?

[plush dragon]

no but you can crouch behind more barricades

[near shore]

or i could walk arounf with 100+ shells and one tapping at any range

[hazy basin]

interesting, ty

[plush dragon]

yesh fullbore build

kantreal is hipfire panic weapon really

that 60% crit talent and all

[near shore]

if it makes u feel better, on zealot i have a kantrel bulid idea
scattershot + flecheete

[plush dragon]

flechette is underwhelming sadly

better to run more damage than have crit dependancy

[near shore]

just tested it, the agrippina does pen while hip fire

it doesnt have a crit need, slugs kill most things in 1 shot, and will stagger big time

[plush dragon]

this changes a lot then. the lawbringer feels like a nerf gun. yeah, i just hated slugs innacuracy when it first came out

ty bb

[near shore]

wait

i lied

im using the lawbringer n the zealot

fucking wifi

[near shore]

if u want, i can vc and show ya bout the gun

[plush dragon]

lol its okay, im a shotgun fanatic

[near shore]

but yes, the shotgun will pen if hip-fire

slugs can 1 tap a reaper

it knocks bulwarks shields up

[plush dragon]

LETS GOO

[near shore]

staggers crushers easily

[plush dragon]

I got tired of how larbringer is under kitted and feared the lack of emergency hip fire on the slugger since thats how its been since the start for shotgun play. whats your perks on it

[near shore]

2 slugs, first staggerd, 2nd knock it on the ground

[plush dragon]

oh i just take an axe to them

[near shore]

ya but i hit 700 on the crsher

852

[plush dragon]

time is of the essence! if only the special ammo was affected by reload perks

[near shore]

for perks tho

no respite
full bore

[plush dragon]

yyeeet

okay me shower ciao baby, imma make a whole build tonight even tho i cant play ❤️

[near shore]

slugs count as all pellet hit, so free +20%
slugs stagger hard = free +20%

[plush dragon]

I miss fullbore no respite shotgun gameplay

[near shore]

it is the way

[plush dragon]

it is

[near shore]

i use devil claw to parry all melee

[plush dragon]

its so op

[near shore]

wait

ill sc my bulid

[plush dragon]

kk

[near shore]

1-2 shots kill ( whatever u wanna kill) for an easy +25% dmg ( + all the keystone perks)

id say the middle part of the lower tree it your choice, i just like to tank and such a bit

[weak pebble]

wait so i got this blessing on a gun and im confused what power accounts too

[radiant willow]

Someone told me autogun is shit but I think it goes hard with the build I found

[near shore]

actually, i just made an autogun bulid, wanna see?

[radiant willow]

Sure

[near shore]

vc? i can stream it rwally quick or just screenshots?

[radiant willow]

I'm at my mom's house for new years sadly can't get to my PC until I'm home

[shadow aurora]

Is unarmoured alright on poke shovel i dont wanna brick my weapon

[tall torrent]

Is it just me or the server is extra laggy today

[shadow aurora]

I was feeling some lag too today

On xbox no less which normally doesn't happen

Someone mustve spilled coffee one of there three server racks again

[dim herald]

So what's the best vet melee for moving around/protecting yourself that can still kill shit? One of the new shovels?

[shadow aurora]

Fold shovels are really good yeah

Power swords are amazing too

Chainswords and new chainaxe are good

[dim herald]

I've been running power sword a while, I don't love the dodges/mobility

[shadow aurora]

Oh

If you want a good mobile weapon the first knife is great

[near shore]

im replacing fire frenzy with raking fire, and stamina with unyelidng dmg

[radiant willow]

Ohh very nice

[dim herald]

Thanks for the options buff, will look into 'em

[near shore]

its a shredding bulid, high burst dmg

[radiant willow]

I'm using a colomnus the blue one I can't remember which mark

[near shore]

mk v

[radiant willow]

Very close range build

[bright charm]

is this a bug lads cant rebless but i can reroll both perks?

[radiant willow]

Fun to mow down hordes

[near shore]

im thinking of dropping krak grenades so i can get more dmg

[near shore]

u can rereoll 2 in total

[crude ermine]

How the hell

[bright charm]

rebless shows no option for me

[radiant willow]

Yeah krak is useful for crushers that's the one thing the autoggun can't handle as well but that's what the chains word is got

[waxen glen]

Sunder or Brutal Momentum?

[near shore]

no i mean, u can do either 2 perks, or 2 blessing, or 1 perk, 1 blessing

u cant do all 4 just 2

so when rolling u need at leasr 2 things u desire from rng

[waxen glen]

Which one would be better on a power sword? Brutal momentum or Sunder?

[near shore]

isnt sunder anti armor?

[serene bough]

Bromentum

[white minnow]

sunder is the cleave one

[waxen glen]

Okay, I'll keep looking for a bromentum one

[near shore]

ah, dont need that on power sword

[white minnow]

i'd do brumo yeah since sunder is for cleaving a bunch of elites, which you probably don't need most times cuz of nades

[near shore]

i take extra charge swings and dmg

the dmg i think hits a break pint on ads

[waxen glen]

Currently have slaughterer cause I don't have bromentum

Get the hunt still on

• power cycler in my pool

[civic knot]

Worth buying?

[near shore]

id say no

im not sure its a good weaponf

[rancid tinsel]

Damage is worrying, I would buy but then strip for shred t4 personally

[tropic notch]

Get it and get the shred blessing from it

[umbral scaffold]

Question about Blaze Away on the plasma gun - do you literally have to hold the button down for the benefit? or is there a window of opportunity to keep click-firing

[ebon umbra]

there is a window for click firing

you cant hold m1 you wont get a second shot

[crisp rapids]

wait what

i thougt bast was 5

then laspitols had +5

so 10%

and vet STILL has the 5% innate?

i thought it became part of the tree

wtf

wt

i dont get crit at all now.

:XD:

[untold mulch]

Psyker has 7.5% crit, the rest has 5% innate

*to my knowledge

[formal rock]

TBF i'm an ogryn main with ogryn IQ, i may have gotten it wrong. i'll go check

[junior patio]

Whats your favorite veteran line?

Mine has to be "Yeah and you'll fall apart at the last moment, just like Cadia." - Veteran to Cadian Veteran

[untold mulch]

Professional pulled a flamer on that one

[junior patio]

fr fr

[untold mulch]

Like oby the Emperor

That was personal

No shittalking, that was legit murder on operation

[crisp rapids]

but like wait

i sstill dont get crit numbers

vets STILL have 5% innate extra compared to other classes

[junior patio]

gotta spew fire like professional

[crisp rapids]

so vets have 10% critchance and other classes have 5%

and all weapons have 5% base critchance and laspistols have 10% (or do the weapons have no base crit, and laspistol has 5%)?

[untold mulch]

Vet onyl gets 10% crit with the node in the tree

[crisp rapids]

ok so everyone has 5% base, and u can take a node to get to 10%

what about weapons?

[untold mulch]

Most I heard is fullauto weapons having a -%

[viscid marlin]

Uh.. psyker and zealot both have crit chance

[crisp rapids]

i am talking innate, without talent tree

[untold mulch]

He was thinking pre-patch 13 where Vet naturally had +5% compared

[viscid marlin]

innate every class also has crit chance

in the hidden stat for whatever it is

i think most of them are the same except ogryn

ah discord didnt scroll lol

[serene bough]

I dont think that's true anymore

Pretty sure everyone is at 5% base crit now

[crisp rapids]

this still valid?

[serene bough]

At least that's what gameslantern says

[viscid marlin]

oh, no thats old

yeah i think they are all 5% now

[formal rock]

yep, 20% seems to be correct
shooting the crusher also seems to yield 1 crit per 5 shots on average.

[orchid condor]

which keystone is better?

[orchid hollow]

the left is not a keystone

🦖

[orchid condor]

mb, "perk"

[orchid hollow]

is that toughness regen from focus target

cuz yes i like that one better

[tall torrent]

Veteran 5% (has +5% talent)
Zealot 5%
Psyker 7.5%
Ogryn 2%

[crisp rapids]

so 5% base, and laspistol has 15%

[orchid hollow]

group toughness focus target very nice

[crisp rapids]

or did u take the +5% crit chance?

[viscid marlin]

I thought they changed it for patch 13?

[formal rock]

nope, empty talent tree

[orchid condor]

20% dmg seems good

[crisp rapids]

whyits crit so fucking badly explained

so, laspistol is 15%

veteran base is 5%

[tall torrent]

That’s the current value I think

[orchid condor]

but not like i aim head all the time 💀

[formal rock]

[crisp rapids]

yeah

[tall torrent]

Before patch13 it was 10% for veteran

[ebon umbra]

someone should make the fatshark logo but with thugshaker bums so we can say fatasshark

[viscid marlin]

its not 20% damage, it's 20% power. there is a huge difference. power is everything, damage, finnese, all of it. damage is just damage. 20% power is a lot more then 20% damage. unless they changed how power works.

but i doubt they did

[formal rock]

• You abandoned my world! Now you do the same to me!
• GET 'EM DEAD! RIGHT HERE! RIGHT NOW!
• I WANNA HEAR THEM SCREAM!
• THERE IS ONLY WAR™️!
  Yes I play cutthroat vet, how could you tell?

[viscid marlin]

If you can breathe, you can kill.

[formal rock]

Can't believe I forgot that one!

[junior patio]

The "GIVE EM THE OLD KAZIKAN DOUBLE TAP"

[serene bough]

Cutthroat is a secret softie

[viscid marlin]

shhhh

dont let them know

[midnight mortar]

*Kasrkin

[formal rock]

Kasr? I hardly know 'er!

[barren cave]

the cutthroat is the best cadian vet

[serene bough]

Because the others died with the planet

[barren cave]

" I WANNA HEAR THEM SCREAM" just never gets old

vets calmly firing his autogun from a reasonable distance, doing his job, then he gets pounced by 15 poxwalkers and just goes " I WANNA HEAR THEM SCREAM"

[formal rock]

The male cutthroat VoC lines still give me chills. Every single one of them. Dude skipped the first stage of grief straight to anger and never left

I actually really like the female cutthroat lines too, she has a more simmering, growly, subtle edge to her voice, but sadly her VoC lines just don't quite compare to the raw rage of the male's VoC lines

[viscid marlin]

It's that moment when you are about to die and then you hear This one's for Cadia.
And then you know you can't die. Because there are still heretics left to kill.

[serene bough]

Loose cannon my favorite

[formal rock]

"Woohoo! Ambush!"

[serene bough]

Exactly

[formal rock]

"Traxis... f-fourteen?... Yeah! Traxis 14!!"

[viscid marlin]

that one is so good

poor drunk vet trying to remember the enemy designation numbers

[serene bough]

Sigma something something

[formal rock]

SNIIIIPERRRR!

[tawny parcel]

Hey guys, what blessings do you guys take on the Assault Chainaxe? Slaughterer/ Headtaker?

[serene bough]

I think my favorite line i heard was "Hear that? We got ourselves a clockwatcher"

I dont remember all the interactions

[formal rock]

In the grimdark universe of the 41st millenium, cannon fodder rejects can either laugh at their sorry damned fate, or they can cry. Loose Cannon obviously chose the more fun option.

[serene bough]

He makes a similar comment to judge zealot

[formal rock]

Those are good. Rev it Up is a purely utility one but it has a ton of uses as well.

[serene bough]

https://youtu.be/gqfw3p2I0dE?si=t1cZ-HpKN6eEed8k

[crisp rapids]

i love this game's voicelines

[serene bough]

Some of these I haven't heard yet

[crisp rapids]

couple of these are from zealot

[tawny parcel]

Anyone have the melee build for vet?

that uses weapon swap?

[crisp rapids]

oh no wonder its bunch of thingmagig

[crisp rapids]

some ppl use revolver, plasma,or shotties

with those

to use the reload feature

[formal rock]

I do wish this game was a focused story-based shooter sometimes, because god damn did they nail the atmosphere of 40k in pretty much every way. It's rare to see a studio that can do the universe justice wrt. production values, and Fatshark definitely delivered there.
Looking forward to Space Marine II, but in my heart I am and always be an ImpGuard simp (SimpGuard?). They were my introduction, and I feel their perspective can show the grit of the universe in a way the stoic warrior monk Astartes are just too powerful for.

[crisp rapids]

yeah when u play space marine u really odnt feel the weight of whats happening

its just kill kill kill

especially u never play as a unnamed character

iits always john plot armor

Space Marine 1, then Boltgun (which surprise, it was a sequel ot Space Marine 1), and then Space marine 2

should i?

[near shore]

welp

my columbus v5 autogun just did 1503 on a reaper

[crisp rapids]

in 1 shot :XD:?

[near shore]

lemme double check

yes

[crisp rapids]

sure its not some weird ass burst taht u hit multiple times :DX:

cause its easy af to hit more than once

[marsh condor]

I am turning this into a Chaff clearer.

No need to go meta with it.

[formal rock]

for sure. maniac is a really good perk on the lasgun since it's one of the best weapons to snipe specialists with (and you got +specialist as well). and efficiency is now out of the pool, so you have slightly better chances of getting one of the more offensive blessings. you might get yourself a really good specialist popper out of this.

[near shore]

it was one shot, ill show ya 1 sec

[crisp rapids]

at least the bolter weakspot dmg is decent

but its soo weird how u can just biuld crit and not care about enemy's heads

[near shore]

ya, it was in 1 shot

[crisp rapids]

nice

[marsh condor]

Savage Sweep or Wrath for chaff-clearing Devil Claw?

[near shore]

ive got alot of buffs is why lol

[crisp rapids]

u neabt about bolter dmg

the crit dmg is the same as the weakspot

and the critweakspot is just barelly higher

[marsh condor]

Which other Perk should I take for this?

[near shore]

just hit 1905 lol

[crisp rapids]

:XD: the fukcing graiga braced, when braced inscreaes sttack speed by 25%

;????

lmao

:XD:damage still lower on flak than just using a agrip mk8

[near shore]

i hoping to run into a beast of nurgle

[tidal rapids]

Until it blocks a corridor and traps you in a dead end

[devout patio]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185751487444439060/1190779554353131531/image.png?ex=65a30ae1&is=659095e1&hm=b0a1a93bcfc20d5f6ed7de93896624585651f0bc48ebfb526166a6e09b3efbee& guys how would you tweak this

[tidal rapids]

Sustained fire for deadly accurate if it's a thing for revolvers

[near shore]

ive got
dumdum
raking fire
unyielding dmg
+5% ranged dmg
execute stance
+5% range dmg
+30% weakspot dmg
+20% weakspot dmg
+10% range dmg
+20% to unyieling and monster
onslaught
marking keystone

i wish a beast of nurgle would

[celest vine]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-dog-angry-upset-gif-21225080

[near shore]

me w/ this bulid

[round jetty]

WHAT

what*

[serene sage]

what

[round jetty]

what is allat

[serene sage]

idk, that's why I say what

[round jetty]

yeah there was like 40 others

[crisp rapids]

i am testing a amongus gun grey

with my currrent stup

it kiss basucally anything fsater than my agrip 8

[ebon umbra]

this guy has been messing with some warp bs

[tawny parcel]

When do you guys use the kantrael's shotguns special shot?

[terse idol]

The flashlight?

When it's dark

[tawny parcel]

the fire ammo

[terse idol]

Oh

For hordes

The shotgun?

For hordes

[crisp rapids]

yeah am runnig me own numbers, on columnus just cause why not, no wonder it does os well, and why it needs such a specific build for it.

the base shots for it are kinda shite, u NEED crits, and headshots.

the crit is like 2.5 and the headshot is like 3x dmg. (and critweakspot is a lil tad bit higher).

i do think tho, if u could just headshot u wouldnt need crit as much.