it also keeps dumdums in your team alive
#veteran-class
wise coral
bros what sort of blessings do you want on a chainsword
torn root
bros what sort of blessings do you want on a chainsword
rampage is usually the go-to
frank ether
I think you want something like rampage-savage sweep maybe? Thats what I have on mine
torn root
wrath and savage sweep are about the same on both, mainly because they already cleave 3 targets to activate rampage
on MK4 probably go for sweep tho, it's a bit better, on XIIIg you swing so fast neither matters
frank ether
I dont like new chsword
torn root
I dont like new chsword
best moveset in the game
torn root
the new one?
its over head into vanguards
1 over head at the start of the chain
for heavies its 2 over heads into a heavy vanguard
shove into light 2x and heavy is all vanguard
having an over head chop as your first heavy is so good
only thing i wish fatshark would do is either make all shredders do a lot more damage through out the animation, or just shorten the animations for shredders by 25%
i hate the animations
1 shot bulwarks tho
well at least for me
wise coral
now why is the meat grinder spawning me with another weapon than the one I equipped, how am I to test out these swords
and thanks for the answers regarding blessings
frank ether
only thing i wish fatshark would do is either make all shredders do a lot more d...
that I'd agree with
which is why I use chainaxe
light attack revs are fast
thick rose
now why is the meat grinder spawning me with another weapon than the one I equip...
use the chest to change your gear
torn root
that I'd agree with
i just dont get why most of the damage would come at the END of sawing something
legit make no sense
should be spread through out the entire animation almost evenly
wise coral
use the chest to change your gear
Christ, you can do that? I've been loading in and out like some dickhead for ages now
frank ether
Idk it wouldnt be a problem if it was faster
torn root
should be spread through out the entire animation almost evenly
like ticks of 10% of the damage and the last tick does 20%
torn root
well thats on vet
frank ether
well zealot just stunlocks everything anyways
thick rose
Christ, you can do that? I've been loading in and out like some dickhead for age...
TBH its fatsharks fault for not just enabling your fucken inventory... but yeah XD
torn root
the stun doesn't last that long imo, not from the dash
frank ether
Its enough to get a chainaxe light rev
which will nuke most stuff
heavy rev probably not long enough
but the idea is you want to abuse the downtime of carapace enemies / bosses
they'll have gaps between attacks where they basically self-stun
problem is other weapons don't have to deal with these rules and just get to spam attacks non stop lmao
torn root
i really dont know much about the axe yet
i usually collect blessings before using a weapon
frank ether
chainaxe is cool now
torn root
i only have head taker 4, literally nothing else
frank ether
headtaker 4 is good
thats one you'll want
I combine it with slaughterer
playstyle is very simple you just go on a killing spree
have both power blessings
which will ramp up your cleave to decent levels due to the sheer amount of power you have
torn root
the new one you said right|?
frank ether
oh I use the old one
but new is also ok
its just reverse attack pattern
old chaxe has revs on light, cleave on heavy
new chaxe has cleave lights, rev heavy
buy some grays and test it out you'll see what I mean
torn root
thunderous not worth?
frank ether
maybe on zealot? Idk I felt the need for more power on veteran
didnt rly give any other blessing combo a shot
torn root
the light attack on the new axe is similar to the new chainsword
i can get behind that
the heavy looks brutal
it revs!
why cant the chainsword rev on heavy?!?!?
torn root
iight so i really need to know what's the difference between relentless and vanguard attacks
is it the amount of targets they hit?\
because it is NOT attack pattern or angle
hybrid token
just tried out Sunder in melee only and kinda like it
tiny summit
something like that but also one leans more damage and the other leans stagger
torn root
the explaination is absolute shite
actually no its fair
ngl
it fair
relentless is just stagger, vanguard is damage
hybrid token
because its a general difference not an exact difference
torn root
because its a general difference not an exact difference
basically, the attacks look the damned same
but we like to just use words and not explain them
-fatshark
hybrid token
theyre explained as well as they can be
tiny summit
pretty much. Its just how the attack is kinda weighted. Relentless shovel heavies is why its a good "get the fuck off me" stick
torn root
ill give fatshark this and only this
hybrid token
every attack in the game functions differently in some way theres no single explanation that could categorise them
wanton dawn
just tried out Sunder in melee only and kinda like it
Yup, in melee only cleave is king
torn root
every attack in the game functions differently in some way theres no single expl...
strike down
perfectly categorizes it lmao
ngl
fatshark - 1
me - 0
torn root
says a powerful attack targeting one enemy
im just aimed at the fact it actually gives you a damned number
hybrid token
strikedowns can still cleave
tiny summit
my chivalry gameplay paying off in darktide to get the most value of my attacks as possible
torn root
strikedowns can still cleave
that's different
wanton dawn
I rate sunder above bm on melee only and twins specifically
torn root
pretty sure they dont without modifyers
hybrid token
sunder is nice coz its not just a cleave booster though
even though thats what it says
torn root
only time ive hit multiple targets with a strike is when sweep is active
hybrid token
now theres a tooltip that needs changing
wanton dawn
It is steroid cleave yeah
tiny summit
what does it specifically do?
torn root
now theres a tooltip that needs changing
100%
tiny summit
I have a PS6 with Sunder and PC4
hybrid token
Sunder gives your cleave a minimum target cap i think
wanton dawn
400% cleave, 3 target minimum, not stopped by carapace or shield
hybrid token
so you will ALWAYS cleave through at least 3 enemies
even if there crushers
or shields
so you can go through like 4 crushers at once
torn root
400% cleave, 3 target minimum, not stopped by carapace or shield
ngl knew i wasnt bugging
wanton dawn
And since ps charged attack stagger everything bar crusher well
torn root
shit cleaves everything like butter
wanton dawn
It makes you safer
hybrid token
being able to cleave through bulwarks is nice to
tiny summit
only if if was powered up at all times. Starting to dislike powering up the sword when the base shovel and rashad just work but I will give it, it will mince crushers like nothing else
torn root
being able to cleave through bulwarks is nice to
aside from doing damage to them
hybrid token
really annoying when you cant kill little guys coz theyre stood with Big Barry here
wanton dawn
I have video of manhandling of dozen of maulers, crushers, ragers allowed by sunder
wanton dawn
Am very proud of my 30 flak ragers one 
Probably possible with bm but 2 targets limitation would make it a pain in the butt
torn root
just learned you can animation cancle the powersword
frank ether
I rate sunder above bm on melee only and twins specifically
there is nothing but carapace as far as eyes can see in both so fair
also twins fight enemies are tougher, BM doesnt do very well there
or maybe I'm dumb
hybrid token
behold, the veteran box.
wanton dawn
behold, the veteran box.
Where nsfw
hybrid token
the little box next to it had a big bag to lol
strange sparrow
Anyone have a clip of rashad dealing with hordes
I don’t get how people use it great
wanton dawn
the little box next to it had a big bag to lol
At Warden someone is posting innapropriate picture
strange sparrow
It just feel like a vertical swing spam weapon that have no cleave?
wanton dawn
Push atk maybe ?
strange sparrow
Push atk maybe ?
People spam push attack to use rashad?
wanton dawn
Idk am a psword stan
torn root
Just not fun
idk about you but i put this on and shiiit, i dont want to shoot now
strange sparrow
idk about you but i put this on and shiiit, i dont want to shoot now
It kill a lot but charging it make it so
Counter intuitive? I don’t like it
It’s great in killing
It’s just not suit what I want
torn root
aaah
wanton dawn
Well, i just dont think any other melee weapon has its sheer polyvalence and kill power. The only other melee i really enjoy on vet is bayonet.
torn root
well i love it because i found out it has guard cost discount on it
wanton dawn
And bayo is weaker mind you
strange sparrow
Maybe I just want something that is Devil Clas 4
But stronger
Without the parry
Good hordes killing power
wanton dawn
I might try a shovel someday
torn root
Good hordes killing power
eviscerator?
well that's not like devil's claw, but i like cleaving hoards
strange sparrow
eviscerator?
Vet’s evis do Horizontal light attack too isn’t it
torn root
evis is zealot
strange sparrow
C-sword sorry
torn root
uuuh
strange sparrow
Getting the fatigue from Psword because charging up just meh
torn root
use XIIIg
strange sparrow
Charge up -> brain rot -> dead
torn root
mash LMB till it doesn't lift anymore
umbral garnet
hybrid token
when youre clutching with 3 men down and you can feel the eyes of 3 spectators on you
tepid solar
Can we get lasgun LMG for Veteran? Like the one that gunners have.
fossil basalt
Comminity manager said at one point that Vet collective desire for a hotshot volley gun as a lil treat has been fed back
And it's too early for words
I hope it does terrible damage to everything except monstrosities and makes the suppression stat of BrAutos running Terrifying Barrage look like pea shooters
bold sierra
I've seen nothing but Columnus inf auto vets lately, no problem with that in particular but ngl I'm starting to really miss when vets actually bring lasguns :\
it just looks and feel cooler
I do hope that Fatshark reworks Onslaught node so that it doesn't favor MOSTLY high RoF, high mag cap weapons
torn root
they'll get used when fatshark makes then not feel so crappy
bold sierra
but I'd love it if Onslaught instead of 2.5 brittle 16 stacks, it's sth like....8 brttle 5 stacks
torn root
want my gun to feel like a gun
fleet garden
I've seen nothing but Columnus inf auto vets lately, no problem with that in par...
then buff lasguns, columnus is so good its like not even close
fleet garden
they added the recoil
bold sierra
already dont like hot a laser would produce kick back
lore reason? air rapid heat expansion as lasbolt leaves the barrel.
fleet garden
because recoiless weapons in a game feel horrible to paly with
bold sierra
not kidding
torn root
because recoiless weapons in a game feel horrible to paly with
yeah, just dont have em
🙂
fleet garden
lasers irl dont produce any recoil at all, railguns do but not lasers
torn root
i dont like laser weaponry in anything not even starwars
gunna be honest
railgun like things are cool 100%
lasers as weapons that fire off as projectiles is dumb
too dumb for me
fleet garden
ye I understand that but lasers dont have recoil normally
torn root
bolter it that heat tho
fleet garden
but playtesters said it felt bad to not have recoil
bold sierra
lasers irl dont produce any recoil at all, railguns do but not lasers
i mean sure, but if sth that's able to produce a red, bright "laser" that can be seen by human eyes, that can explode on impact and stuff, I'm sure the mechanism would probably produce SOME rumbling
fleet garden
so fatshark added some recoil
fleet garden
i mean sure, but if sth that's able to produce a red, bright "laser" that can be...
not really, even high powered industry lasers dont have recoil, they are just very warm
bold sierra
plus I don't think it's LASER, it's probably akin to plasma if anything, it's just a nickname I believe
torn root
not really, even high powered industry lasers dont have recoil, they are just ve...
not even close
lmao like actually
bold sierra
they call the shots "lasbolts", not laser after all
torn root
there is no bolt part to the las bolt sadly
fleet garden
still, it felt bad without the recoil so idk
torn root
see BOLTERS
they shoot bolts
the explosive kind
grand design
iconic
beautiful
lasguns saw starwars and just had to do it
🙂
fleet garden
to me it does matter, like they can make it like irl lasers without recoil but ye I dont mind any really
torn root
make gun feel like gun
bold sierra
most advanced lasers in real life doesn't even explode on impact and it takes a while to burn through, and that's a GIGANTIC machine to do that. I think a small gun in 40k that's able to produce a "laser"-like shot that's probably somewhat stronger than what we have in real life would probably have some crazy mechanisms, eventho it's "simple" in 40k xD
fleet garden
ye, we are in 40k so they are probably way higher powered than anything now
bold sierra
ok so you just don't like lasguns, I see, that's fair but that's beside the point xD
torn root
that and they just feel like ass to play
imo*
Columnus tho
go brrr
and faces go drip
win
dusty sluice
whats the best cc shovel?
bold sierra
I would definitely like to see more...variations that people bring into mission, it's kinda...boring to see JUST columnus infs and revolvers xD
strange sparrow
I've seen nothing but Columnus inf auto vets lately, no problem with that in par...
Lasweapon suck in general too bad
torn root
I would definitely like to see more...variations that people bring into mission,...
META exist because winning means more to most ppl than having flavor
bold sierra
Lasweapon suck in general too bad
they're fine tbh, people just dont want to deal with the hassle, plus most people dont have full-auto mod xD
torn root
and why try to be flavorful in a grindy ass game just to chance the fact that you could NOT get a good return for your investment in time
bold sierra
which I do understand, playing lasguns hurt my finger sometimes
torn root
fatshark COULD make more things viable, and they COULD make grinding a bit less worse
but lets be honest
torn root
not gunna happen
bold sierra
that's kinda a weird take
torn root
<a:huhcat:1065096926128775208>
you say that
but thats literally why ppl would gravitate to what wins
bold sierra
game being grindy doesn't have to relate to wanting to have flavor :/
torn root
ppl rather win than see a 30 min L
bold sierra
I mean sure, but they still don't relate xD
torn root
in every game there is a meta
because winning is more fun than losing
in EVERY game you see more prevalent things for a reason
dusty sluice
whats the best cc shovel?
would this be good a a purely cc shovel or would smth else be better?
strange sparrow
they're fine tbh, people just dont want to deal with the hassle, plus most peopl...
It’s not fun to run braced gun tbh
Not even “viable” imo
torn root
ppl who try to seperate enjoyment ratio to time played winning/ losing dont understand how player retention works and why balancing happens in games
strange sparrow
That whole family is fucked
Auto shredder got giga deletus
Kantrael just make me feel like I’m useless
torn root
you are bored of watching ppl have fun using a gun that feels better to use and probably IS better to use
strange sparrow
Hellbore promote a slower gameplay
bold sierra
you are bored of watching ppl have fun using a gun that feels better to use and ...
I mean, yeah, it ain't gonna stop them that's for sure
fossil basalt
Kantrael just make me feel like I’m useless
XII lasgun? Yeah it's garbage rn
MgIV is one of the highest dps guns, up there with Columnus MkV
bold sierra
simply afterthoughts
strange sparrow
XII lasgun? Yeah it's garbage rn
MgIV is one of the highest dps guns, up there ...
MGIV don’t make me feel like it’s doing enough dps
torn root
when fatshark gets to it they'll get to it
strange sparrow
Especially because Columnus headshot multiplier (finesse weapon)
bold sierra
It also does come into account the fact that the vet tree probably still needs a bit of tweaking xD
fossil basalt
MGIV don’t make me feel like it’s doing enough dps
Hit heads /j
Lasrifles depend heavily on their rolls, deadly accurate+infernus will rip
dusty sluice
would this be good a a purely cc shovel or would smth else be better?
or would this or one of the other shovels be more useful?
fossil basalt
.meanwhile columb V will delete anything with dumdum
torn root
MGIV don’t make me feel like it’s doing enough dps
that's because the balance team decided that a grey infantry auto should out perform everything else
strange sparrow
Might as well kill it already
torn root
well almost everything else
bold sierra
Infernus is bad dps isn’t it
mostly bring it for Monsters, burn dmg is good on Unyielding
fleet garden
make recon great again
fossil basalt
If you rely on burn to kill stuff
Why are you relying on burn? It's topical but still ups damage, and lasrifles are better monstrosity anyways
strange sparrow
Why are you relying on burn? It's topical but still ups damage, and lasrifles ar...
You said you bring infernus
So Crit burn?
torn root
in defense of prior comment i do too
but most ppl are newer to the game just trying stuff
fossil basalt
So Crit burn?
I mean, I never take crit blessings? Deadly accurate+infernus is my best rn
torn root
i dont think relying on a DoT is a good thing
fossil basalt
No, but relying on two for that beeg plague oggy will turn it into mush 😛
torn root
No, but relying on two for that beeg plague oggy will turn it into mush 😛
or just do actual damage and kill it instead of watch it burn and possibly deal more damage
strange sparrow
dusty sluice
and often + cara damage fsr
does this change anything with the recon?
strange sparrow
You need to Crit to get infernus thou
torn root
DoTs are a bit of a weird concept in pve, especially when the director recently kinda hates players
fossil basalt
or just do actual damage and kill it instead of watch it burn and possibly deal ...
If you like that, sure, can try to aim head 
strange sparrow
DoTs are a bit of a weird concept in pve, especially when the director recently ...
DoT is great if AOE
torn root
DoT is great if AOE
yeah weird
strange sparrow
For example, people that use shredder
strange sparrow
Or psyker purg staff
bold sierra
You need to Crit to get infernus thou
tbh, if you're shooting a monstrosity, it's not hard to land 3-4 crits, even without deadshot xD
barren cave
does onslaught apply to ranged?
barren cave
onslaught the node
exotic drum
OH.
torn root
yes
exotic drum
torn root
onslaught talent applies to melee and ranged
barren cave
k, ty
exotic drum
Oh, well that is good to learn.
barren cave
also, how much does krak suffer without the 50% dmg boost talent
torn root
^
strange sparrow
Because nothing survive except nurgle blessing Cara/bulwark
exotic drum
Well shit, I'm learning a lot today and I've been here for 5 minutes.
fossil basalt
This is the number crunch channel
bold sierra
I do hope FS will rework Onslaught after the holiday, make it apply higher %brittle and less max stacks, would really help with a lot more weapons, instead of just stuff like Columnus inf auto xD. Maybe instead of 2.5 brittle 16 stacks, it's 8 brittle 5 stacks.
exotic drum
sweat I assumed this was the Veteran help channel.
torn root
numbers help
exotic drum
That is fair.
strange sparrow
Burn damage caps out at 200 damage on Unyielding
I don’t think that’s great damage
Also you can reach 300 damage DOTS with unyielding too it seem
15 stacks = 300 DoTs
torn root
I do hope FS will rework Onslaught after the holiday, make it apply higher %brit...
Onslaught is fine, tbh if anything needs to be fixxed its rending
exotic drum
Hey man, if you know what names equal what numbers and you can Name your Darktide Math, then I guess you're alright
torn root
rending as a start/keyword is REALLY bad, brittleness from onslaught is okay because it's specifically meant for rapid fire/rapid hit weapons
bold sierra
Onslaught is fine, tbh if anything needs to be fixxed its rending
what, you think it wouldn't be better if it applies more brittle and less stacks, which would benefit more than just high-RoF/mag cap weapons?
torn root
what, you think it wouldn't be better if it applies more brittle and less stacks...
no, the talents should have focus and investment
strange sparrow
Single shot weapon are already good in Cara category though
torn root
they could just make 2 of the crappy rending nodes better
strange sparrow
For example HellBore
dusty sluice
whats the best cc shovel?
still need some help with this lol
strange sparrow
60% against Cara
torn root
Single shot weapon are already good in Cara category though
^
armour lowers damage for smaller intervals way more than it does for bigger numbers
strange sparrow
It doesn’t benefit them a lot, maybe vraks headhunter
bold sierra
they could just make 2 of the crappy rending nodes better
I mean, I suppose, but honestly the gun meta right now with the Columnus inf auto is definitely bc of the Onslaught node, I think if we take that away, Columnus infantry auto would probably not be as prevalent xD
torn root
I mean, I suppose, but honestly the gun meta right now with the Columnus inf aut...
so make other guns better, and make other nodes better
strange sparrow
If they make shredder auto pistol better
torn root
im pretty sure the community isnt delusional to think that columnus is gunna stay this way for ever
it will get touched eventually lmao
exotic drum
still need some help with this lol
I'm by no means an expert, but both of the new shovels have good crowd control. The MK3 Munitorum? Shovel? light attacks are more sweeping and crowd hitting. I use a MK7 Munitorum shovel and its the most like the Standard Issue shovel. Your heavies are going to be your crowd control and light attacks your single target. MK3 is opposite, lights are your sweeps, and heavies are your strikedowns.
bold sierra
so make other guns better, and make other nodes better
yeah, I did say it's fair xD. but tbh in general, most weapons are fairly balanced right now if anything, it's just some guns are benefited WAY MORE by vet's Onslaught node, that it does render a lot of weapons less effective cuz of it
I mean, buffing other nodes probably the best way to go
exotic drum
Plus they have the pick axe option as a backup, where the standard issue has a high stagger Jab.
bold sierra
I'm sure FS wouldn't just...buff Kantrael lasgun's dmg like...500%+, just cuz of that xD
torn root
idk if most guns are balanced
languid estuary
that's because the balance team decided that a grey infantry auto should out per...
which one
dusty sluice
I'm by no means an expert, but both of the new shovels have good crowd control. ...
ah ty
white minnow
they're all mostly comparatively balanced
it's not like patch 12 and before where most options were just balatantly worse than the top few
wanton dawn
I think iag columnus is the highest dps vet gun atm ?
bold sierra
they're balanced, if we don't take into account some of vet's skill nodes
white minnow
you can just pick a random gun and not be assblasted by your egregious choice of picking whatever seems neat
torn root
Columnus is just a dumb gun
wanton dawn
Plasma is not really "high" dps so
bold sierra
its still out dps a lot of guns with no points put into the tree
yeah, I think Fatshark definitely should lean more into the whole "high-dmg close range/low-dmg long range" right now the dmg fall-off of it DOES NOT matter at all xD
torn root
actually i dont think thats a bad thing lmao
bold sierra
and it has better recoil than Graia iag
torn root
a dps guns should dps now that i think of it
every gun doesnt have to match the dps of the one gun, whose job is literally that role
white minnow
mostly that the columnus' negatives (lower total base damage per mag, higher recoil, sharper falloff) don't really matter in a game where enemies come in waves and often up close to you
bold sierra
I don't mind, but the way it is now with Columnus iag, it's a bit TOO good at all ranges
languid estuary
which columnus are we talking about
torn root
mostly that the columnus' negatives (lower total base damage per mag, higher rec...
yeah, and how are they really gunna balance it to reduce the effectiveness without damning it
bold sierra
mostly that the columnus' negatives (lower total base damage per mag, higher rec...
yeah, it does not matter at all, only really start to see it in like....REAALLLLY far
white minnow
yeah, and how are they really gunna balance it to reduce the effectiveness witho...
i'd just tweak those attributes or tone down the damage/adms
bold sierra
like unrealistically far xD
white minnow
numerical tweaks are good nuff
strange sparrow
Far shot also neutralise the damage drop off to certain extend
bold sierra
I think they should make the close range dmg multiplier on the Columner iag back to how it was...it BASICALLY has the same dmg as Graia's right now, dunno why they thought that was fine xD
bold sierra
Graia iag is basically just a slower and less ammo reserve Columnus iag
white minnow
i'd keep the high ADMs for the columnus frankly
torn root
idk about damage numbers right off the bat
wanton dawn
Tbf columnus iag might be good but it remain uncommon on auric maelstrom.
white minnow
the columnus does have the high mobility to incentivize you to run up
maybe nerf its close range ADMs
bold sierra
what's ADM?
strange sparrow
Tbf columnus iag might be good but it remain uncommon on auric maelstrom.
Everyone do be brain rot plasma Psword
torn root
i dont think mobility on a gun that's meant for closer ranged engagment is bad
bold sierra
not familar with that term
thick rose
the more I play other classes the more I realize how good vet chat is 
white minnow
armour damage modifiers
fatshark uses armour damage modifiers to affect damage falloff (a clearly good decision)
bold sierra
ic
wanton dawn
Everyone do be brain rot plasma Psword
I feel attacked but then again, i play bayo so i have my non-meta out-of-jail card 
white minnow
it's really good for balance when things like rending affects a weapons performance at range :)
bold sierra
but yeah, i dont mind if Columnus iag has good close range DPS, but it'd be cool if the damage just goes to shit way more the further away the target is xD
I think it's only fair tbh
thick rose
I think I honestly prefer the agrip iag
white minnow
yeah nerfing the damage farther away might be the option to take
to really lean into the columnus's mobility advantage anyways
bold sierra
I think I honestly prefer the agrip iag
I do too tbh, but we can't deny the Columnus iag's obvious meta dominance xD
I prefer Agri on zealot way more
thick rose
I like charging around hipfiring agrip
bold sierra
Agri iag makes good use of Sustained Fire
thick rose
and saving stamina for some really concentrated dps with deadshot
wanton dawn
I do too tbh, but we can't deny the Columnus iag's obvious meta dominance xD
It dominates autogun. But autogun powerlevel is still lower than vet best option
thick rose
I dunno
wanton dawn
And again, even columnus iag is still rare on top diff
torn root
how can you look at that and complain
torn root
he lived so long XD
bold sierra
It dominates autogun. But autogun powerlevel is still lower than vet best option
elaborate? idk about u but I see nothing but vets using columnus iags on Aurics and Maelstroms xD
then again, I play in Asia 😐
ppl there are kinda weird
wanton dawn
elaborate? idk about u but I see nothing but vets using columnus iags on Aurics ...
Meta vet is voc plasma
Then revolver
Then any autogun
bold sierra
idk about the ranking of them, but I'll say they are the top 3
wanton dawn
Especially voc plasma is the new bolter vet at high diff
bold sierra
yeahhh....revolver and plasma probably need slight tweaks...tho I cant say in what
thick rose
you reckon revolver is that bad?
bold sierra
cuz they do be kinda dominant
thick rose
obviously its so good for some big guys but its so limited when you ahve lots of shooters
bold sierra
I dont like playing revolver, it's kinda a pain but yeah
wanton dawn
Plasma needs power mover from primary to charged shot
bold sierra
sounds fair ^
torn root
keep the damage reduce the spam
thick rose
just make it blowup on uncharged again >:)
torn root
not meant to be a spam weapon to begin with
bold sierra
wouldnt mind if they make it slower
I still play mostly Kantrael 1a and stance ult tho, cuz they just feel cool to me xD
in Aurics and stuff
torn root
revolver only think i can think off is probably finess nerf
strange sparrow
Tbh Aurics normal just pretty easy once you know VoC is disgusting
You don’t even need to min max I argue
bold sierra
Maelstroms too, but yeah
torn root
can agree
wanton dawn
I dunno i dont play "normal" auric
bold sierra
Aurics are basically the old Damnations before skill-tree now xD
ebon umbra
big sad if they nerf plasma dmg.
strange sparrow
Maelstroms have certain modifier that just make life hard
torn root
eeeh
ebon umbra
nerf ammo charge speed left click or whatever
strange sparrow
For example, sniper fest in some map
torn root
nerf ammo charge speed left click or whatever
yeah the big damage should stay, but that charge rate, and heat build up should change
thick rose
the only big sad I have with IAGs is when snipers appear
strange sparrow
Nurgle blessings + waves of specialist + monstrosity
bold sierra
For example, sniper fest in some map
times like that, having Kantrael and stance ult is good xD
thick rose
man revolver is good against snipers 😮
torn root
man revolver is good against snipers 😮
they shouldnt be
thick rose
its like you cant miss them
ebon umbra
i wish i could play more auric and auric maestrom but ive just switched to reg damn quickplay for plasteel 
strange sparrow
man revolver is good against snipers 😮
I mean if you could hit them, but the iron sight suck after certain range
wanton dawn
Nurgle blessings + waves of specialist + monstrosity
Easier than before since no longer unweakened monstro spam but yeah
bold sierra
Nurgle blessings + waves of specialist + monstrosity
I can deal with specialist waves, lesser-monstrosities are easy to deal with imo xD
thick rose
I mean if you could hit them, but the iron sight suck after certain range
once you get used to it, its honestly not bad
the hitbox with that thing is so big, just shoot your shot
torn root
oh i know how they can nerf revolver
strange sparrow
Play enough zealot revolver, the problem is hitting sniper that is at the end of the room
bold sierra
actually, wouldnt mind if they just nerf revolver's long range dmg-retention
torn root
reduce the magnetism
torn root
bullet magnetism
bold sierra
that's a thing??
thick rose
the revolver doesnt need you to be THAT accurate
torn root
for cowboy bills that like to hipfire
strange sparrow
the revolver doesnt need you to be THAT accurate
I don’t know about you but sniper take cover
thick rose
I dunno how it works in darktide but in COD for example (or destiny) different guns have different hitboxes
revolver gets headshots whne some guns would miss I think
wanton dawn
Revolver is generous
strange sparrow
Especially in longer room, they hide behind a piece of sheet metal
torn root
revolver gets headshots whne some guns would miss I think
and its very generous in this game
for the revolver
bold sierra
crazy
thick rose
but. it also makes the gun feel really cool
and I dont think its THAT OP that you could be blunt in nerfing it
torn root
nah it could get touched
bold sierra
definitely needs some tweaks imo
torn root
buffs
low oar
Shock trooper is a dumb node
torn root
from FATSHARK?
low oar
Literally free ammo
torn root
lmao
low oar
On hellbore
strange sparrow
Free ammo is alright, but Hellbore problem is how it encourage slow gameplay which is
Weird considering how you are always pushed by waves and waves
torn root
Free ammo is alright, but Hellbore problem is how it encourage slow gameplay whi...
counter intuitive
in a hoard rush game
bold sierra
doesnt stop people who wanting snipers xD
strange sparrow
i vote they put snipers in
I mean it’s ironsighr make me download a mod specifically for it
bold sierra
i honestly dont mind the ironsight tbh
bold sierra
probably better to see than Kantrael's holosight sometimes
low oar
I like a big iron on my hip
I walked into a town with my big iron on my hip
Looking for an outlaw
bold sierra
Kantrael's scope is a bit too....cluttered
torn root
and they are lore accurate
bold sierra
sometimes
torn root
probably the main reason why most of the guns have no scopes
spring rose
Looking for an outlaw
Named Texas red
low oar
Tbh, I use the weapon customization mod and put the laspistol's sight on everything
wanton dawn
Looking for an outlaw
strange sparrow
The issue is you can’t see anything with Hellbore Mk2 ironsight which is why
I’m into one shot one kill but I can’t see anything
spring rose
When will veteran finna get a cowboy hat
low oar
Pre-patch 13, I just compensated with executioner's stance
My main target were shooters anyway
torn root
The issue is you can’t see anything with Hellbore Mk2 ironsight which is why
ngl i actually like those irons
strange sparrow
ngl i actually like those irons
You’re sicked
torn root
literally place you shot at the tip of the pointer
and you are golden
its not a sniper lmao so if the target is too small its for a reason
low oar
I got used to them after using it for a ton of time
torn root
bro those are clean ass irons man
bold sierra
especially after they gave it those buffs on the sway and stuff
bold sierra
it feels right
viral nacelle
Lol the sights don’t even line up, hellbore irons are a mess
torn root
tf how don't they line up?
bold sierra
they're a flat horizontal line with the nub in the middle, they line up pretty well in my experience
bold sierra
mk3 helbore does, no? has the front iron around the barrel
strange sparrow
Mk3 barrel give better sight
bold sierra
But mk2 just
just use a commissonary skin that gives you Mk1 helbore model xD
bold sierra
personally tho, i dont think I found the mk2's sight unbearable, then again, havent played it for a while
torn root
can't even overcome your irons
thick rose
the emporer compells you to use iron sights, heretic
shrewd acorn
What are some good blessings and combos for the mk4 chainaxe? I'm having trouble figuring out how to horde clear with this thing.
slow spade
The only viable guns are the infantry las guns UwU
wanton dawn
The only viable guns are the infantry las guns UwU
raw totem
The only viable guns are the infantry las guns UwU
EAT BOLTGUN!
white minnow
owo
raven crane
The only viable guns are the infantry las guns UwU
Shotguns, autoguns, and braced autoguns.
thick rose
Id like to try a lasgun but certain shipmates are being mighty cunty about it
untold mulch
I would use the infantry lasguns
if they didn't take 3 business years to kill a mauler
I coulde use a melee against them, but Idk, I don't consider a good idea to try out-melee a dude with a two handed chainaxe
raven crane
*I coulde use a melee against them, but Idk, I don't consider a good idea to try...
Just rev your own chainaxe and pop them in the head for a fun surprise
untold mulch
versed merlin
@bitter turtle ok vraks is the goat
i took a break from vet and been playing a lot with zealot. came back to do my weekly missions and did a few auric qp runs and god it feels good with a less zoomed fov
also took off exec stance for my clutch shout
paired with a knife and it has very fun to play with
my only complaint is that it doesnt penetrate like revolver does 
i wonder how vraks 3 performs tho 🤔
thick rose
fuck that burst fire abomination
gusty bison
The only viable guns are the infantry las guns UwU
B8/10
thick rose
how much left tree do lasguns need?
lasguns are one of the few untested waters for my vet, kinda keen for some new experiances
untold mulch
I guess dependo n lasgun
Lucius barely if at all?
Recon needs the entire tree to still be kinda shit
thick rose
la! obviously...
umbral scaffold
if they didn't take 3 business years to kill a mauler
Fr
Lasgun good excet for carapacw
untold mulch
Eh, carapace is understandable
But even bodyshots to the mauler flak
takes a long while
thick rose
1:39am aus mourningstar be like
umbral scaffold
Hellbore 1 shreds carapace
untold mulch
The amount of cheapness lengths Fatshark went to maximize the benefit on skins
Same skin for bodytype, subcontract teams?
constant recolors
I will stop, getting mad myself alone
humble nova
Mama was nice, which direction do we go with this now?
umbral scaffold
i do be dakka tho
wet elk
this is one of the builds of all times
gray finch
gusty bison
la! obviously...
Precision strikes is needed
The rest is optional
Deadshot is v good thou
wet elk
literally became unkilabble for a lil
slate sleet
must put junk on simple gun tacticool ook ook
shadow aurora
1:39am aus mourningstar be like
Jesse what the hell are you talking about
umbral scaffold
tfw the game decided you didnt shout and insta died to a hound burster combo
thick rose
MAN
caps
what is up with ability activation in this game
its not as bad as ogryn charge, voc on vet, but still...
I swear to god sometimes it doesn't go off
hearty panther
almost every ability has a split second of activation anim
you are usually inadvertently cancelling your own ult before it casts
umbral scaffold
i must be the god of using it a nanosec before the hound rapes me
wet elk
grenade spam build is nuts on auric maelstorm
hearty panther
im just subconsciously playing around it at this point
Like block before you shout and not vice versa
thick rose
ay brunt, I know I asked for lower mob but shit, dude
and hadron comes in with the 1-2
raw totem
ay brunt, I know I asked for lower mob but shit, dude
jesus christ
give me that
like... now
elder summit
Whats the vet meta now?
vernal harbor
Whatever you think is fun
celest vine
Whats the vet meta now?
Builds around Plasma gun. Lucius, and Infantry lasguns
celest vine
and hadron comes in with the 1-2
Unyielding is good
crude fiber
well at least i can say i carried a game now, picked everyone up twice
crude fiber
was using this, love the recon even if its not what it used to be
south garnet
emperor's gift more like emperor's grift, I don't think I've ever gotten a decent weapon in like 1200 hours from this dude unless you count blessings to rip
vernal harbor
Haven’t seen a single item worth it in over 500 hours
Pretty sure it’s just for blessings
copper barn
Only ever gotten good blessings from Melk
humble nova
Most stable lasgun
covert furnace
I was so close to the chestplate for veteran on malice without being hit then the last bit of the mission screwed me over
tall torrent
I was so close to the chestplate for veteran on malice without being hit then th...
U can actually do that penance in Karnak boss fight
cerulean void
Most stable lasgun
jimmy space gives his most stable veterans the most stable guns ^^
wise plover
So I’m trying to get a grip how this game works. These are pretty good right? If there’s anything still possible to change what would that be?
wise plover
So I’m trying to get a grip how this game works. These are pretty good right? If...
Right lane that is.
covert furnace
Chainsword seems good
humble nova
So I’m trying to get a grip how this game works. These are pretty good right? If...
That's about as good as it gets for a plasma
leaden grove
swap glory hunter to volatile and swap unyielding to carapace.
humble nova
So I’m trying to get a grip how this game works. These are pretty good right? If...
Play what's fun, but I wouldn't really recommend the special activation blessings on a chainsword if you're running plasma
Those are overlapping roles
trim steppe
That's a great plasma. Reroll the T1 Glory to a higher glory or to Blaze Away. The perks are good, you could roll one to a 25% or boost a damage that you want, carapace is a good choice if you hate crushers
tall torrent
So I’m trying to get a grip how this game works. These are pretty good right? If...
Plasma gun is alright
The chainsword not so much
trim steppe
Hey guys which of these two Mk4 Crushers do you prefer?
humble nova
Wrong channel
trim steppe
Zealot chat is a nightmare, I'd rather ask here
humble nova
kek
radiant plank
how does volatile and blaze away stack up against each other for plasma guns?
tall torrent
how does volatile and blaze away stack up against each other for plasma guns?
Volatile makes the gun charge faster at low heat, decreases in effectiveness as heat builds up
Blaze away increases every shot’s power as long as you continuously keep firing (this doesn’t work that well at near-max-heat, usually relevant for low-to-high-heat firing)
trim steppe
how does volatile and blaze away stack up against each other for plasma guns?
I legitimately don't see a point in Volatile. You hardly ever use charged shots, so the uptime and usefulness is extremely low. Blaze away is great for spamming into clumps of armor like maulers and crushers. Its a solid pick. I still usually dont take it because I only use it during armor packs, and the rest of the time its a wasted slot. I like Gloryhunter for 100% uptime when I need a defensive boost
wanton dawn
I legitimately don't see a point in Volatile. You hardly ever use charged shots,...
Volatile also applies to uncharged shot. Not that it greatly improve it but it does
tall torrent
I legitimately don't see a point in Volatile. You hardly ever use charged shots,...
It increases uncharged shot speeds
trim steppe
I didn't know that. I still don't think I'll take it tho
radiant plank
i can see the use case for gloryhunter since cooling down the plasma gun does take away toughness...
tall torrent
It’s not great but it’s not as bad as shattering impact for plasma anyway
wanton dawn
Blaze away and get hot are the best combo for huge dps spike on low to high heat
It is especially great on no ammo maelstrom
trim steppe
Yeah Blaze away and gets hot are the biggest dps spike when you want one. I still prefer gets hot and gloryhunter for a nice mix of dps boost + defensive boost, it feels more consistent to me
radiant plank
i guess i'll see which blessing i get sooner, since i have neither at the moment
trim steppe
Regardless, Gets Hot is universally the best blessing that you always want, the second blessing slot is just personal preference. I still think Shattering and Volatile are bad picks tho lol
radiant plank
i can freely swap between them in the future anyway
tall torrent
Volatile is an “at least it’s not shattering impact” pick
trim steppe
i can freely swap between them in the future anyway
You got a great gun there
radiant plank
thank you, got really lucky with it
tall torrent
Hey guys which of these two Mk4 Crushers do you prefer?
I think right?
I personally prefer hammerblow over trauma but it’s really whatever
As long as u have skullcrusher it’s fine
lofty lintel
Hey guys which of these two Mk4 Crushers do you prefer?
Literally same thing
tall torrent
And crusher (weapon) is not the best at dealing with crushers (enemy)
trim steppe
As long as u have skullcrusher it’s fine
I thought hammerblow was worse cuz the window is too small, but idk too much about it
tall torrent
I thought hammerblow was worse cuz the window is too small, but idk too much abo...
It’s really whatever cuz crusher’s blessing pool is so small and the only good thing is skullcrusher lol
trim steppe
Id choose 2 for t4 skull rusher
I could always roll the first one into SC4
lofty lintel
Both are fine
trim steppe
How about perks then? seems like flak/maniac/crusher dam are all top picks
tall torrent
I personally think you can never really go wrong with elite
But the 2nd roll u could swap elite to flak if u wanted
To handle both ragers better
Crushers just don’t deal that much carapace dmg and a lot of the dmg comes from skullcrusher
It’s mainly a stagger-orientated horde brawl weapon
trim steppe
Fair
pastel geode
Any new drip rotate in since the rogue trader set?
tall torrent
Any new drip rotate in since the rogue trader set?
Valhallan set
wise plover
Play what's fun, but I wouldn't really recommend the special activation blessing...
Great info. Thanks!
tall torrent
The veteran set has severe clipping issues
trim steppe
It’s mainly a stagger-orientated horde brawl weapon
Thanks for the input mate
tall torrent
Thanks for the input mate
pastel geode
Wait Valhallan ice warriors?
thorny burrow
Can I shed a tear 🥲
tall torrent
Can I shed a tear 🥲
That’s not the worst thing ever
Bloodletter -> wrath/savage sweep
Stamina -> some sort of dmg perk
Not gonna be BiS but usable for sure
Shredder doesn’t matter much for mk4 chainsword cuz the “chainsaw” part of the weapon is basically irrelevant
thorny burrow
Yeah, but then i also get these 
sharp ember
Can I shed a tear 🥲
I could cook with that chsword
thorny burrow
What about this???
sharp ember
just change both perks, one to Unyielding for boss fighting
sharp ember
What about this???
now for that variant
you’re gonna have to swap out that Savage Sweep for Wrath
because its move set CANNOT hit 3 bruisers in 1 swing to activate Savage Sweep
thorny burrow
Oh yeah? Watch me 
wanton dawn
Oh yeah? Watch me <:Clueless:936402564575027210>
sharp ember
i’m not a big fan of Bloodthirsty either so I’d make that Shred or Rampage or Bloodletter
and Rampage only if you slapped on Wrath
crisp rapids
i dont know why ppl dont use the agip. i had 2 amonguses on my team
trim steppe
i dont know why ppl dont use the agip. i had 2 amonguses on my team
agri brauto is still my favorite gun
crisp rapids
yeha agrip brauto is just too good
seems like so many of the columnus users are psykarnium mains.
afaik it doesnt shoot trough multiple targets
lofty lintel
Columnus brauto i assume
crisp rapids
def infantry autos those 2
crisp rapids
i feel like it has excelent potential damage, but in game its a whole other story
lofty lintel
In game it shows
I have a friend i play with who almost exclusively uses the columnus mk5 and always gets top dps
Ive used it too it trivializes the game with the right build
crisp rapids
i dont doubt it can do good dps, i played with graia autos and can do similar dmg, a lot of this game is if u know when and where to shoot
but it feels like the dmg is a lot more finniky compared to a agrip brauto
lofty lintel
Not really just crit chance and it becomes the best
crisp rapids
deadshot
is a double edged sword
(and i fucking love it)
it the same stuff with a lot of psyker builds
in psykarnium u are reaching breakpoints etc etc etc
lofty lintel
Just take stamina replenishment subnode from focus target
crisp rapids
on game, its very very different
pastel geode
The veteran set has severe clipping issues
what kind of issues out of curiousity
crisp rapids
the horde clear of the agrip brauto + the stagger it provides is very very good
lofty lintel
Honestly theres not really any difference columnus mk5 is a weapon that anybody can use and it just shreds absolutely everything
You dont use your ranged weapon for horde clear + stagger doesnt matter on ciag because everything dies in one burst
crisp rapids
ammo ecconomy (when i played as a psyker) was awfull on a the amongus autogu
lofty lintel
You have a point there
crisp rapids
You dont use your ranged weapon for horde clear + stagger doesnt matter on ciag ...
agrip with the ammo node lets u be very lenient with this
crisp rapids
it IS very fun tho :XD:
same with plasmagun, u cna try to be efficient but only so much
wanton dawn
what kind of issues out of curiousity
The prisoner helmet clip through half the skins
lofty lintel
agrip with the ammo node lets u be very lenient with this
Im not trying to say agri is bad agri braced autogun is amazing but mk5 is just the best
Theyre not comparable
Like the bolter and the revolver
crisp rapids
100% not one is brauto the other is infantry
lofty lintel
Bolter is a good weapon revolver is just better
crisp rapids
the agirp brauto serves as a excelent horde clear too
wanton dawn
Ppl have ammo issue with plasma ?
lofty lintel
I agree i use agri brauto a LOT on my wep specialist melee build
It slaps
And its super fun to use
crisp rapids
i am using brauto on a executioner stance biuld
crisp rapids
i find it very powerfull as i can be in the middle of a horde
pop executioner
and it will clear a path towards any elite very fast
especialyl with the deathsplitter fire frenzy
lofty lintel
True
crisp rapids
- the exilerating taking down proking nonstop
iirc the amongus doesnt have the penetration of the agrip right?
a bit more succeptible to getting cornered (nothing good positioning doenst fix)
lofty lintel
It doesnt but its excellent at horde clear as well
Just not its ideal use
Very ammo unefficient
Thats what the melee is for
tall torrent
what kind of issues out of curiousity
the kind where your pants melt into your coat ALL THE TIME
lofty lintel
Hot take i fucking love the new set
crisp rapids
yeah. i really like beeing able to clear hordes while diong exhilerating takedowns
lofty lintel
But im biased because ive always loved valhallans
crisp rapids
its very tanky
tall torrent
Hot take i fucking love the new set
looks great besides the atrocious clipping
pastel geode
ah the classic cloth physics being glitchy
lofty lintel
I use it with the ushanka
pastel geode
I use it with the ushanka
I was honestly considering doing the same thing
crisp rapids
what is a good % on the amongus?
lofty lintel
yeah. i really like beeing able to clear hordes while diong exhilerating takedow...
Thats awesome bro if agri brauto fits your playstyle better then go for it
crisp rapids
i'll try getting a amongus on my vet
lofty lintel
Ciag is more "methodical" (its braindead) as you have to ads and make use of deadshot and Marksman focus/focus target
crisp rapids
0 ammo 🙏
lofty lintel
Micromanagement of the mf stacks and stamina
Thats all it needs but any player with a good understanding of the game will use it to its fullest potential
crisp rapids
what are the % am looking for on my amongus?
lofty lintel
Thats good
360+ is higher chance of t4 blessings
But thatll work
Stop power and dmg is high
trim steppe
huh
Surprisingly, the ammo stat hardly matters at all on the CIAG. Like the difference between 0% and 80% is like 50 ammo
lofty lintel
This is my columnus im scared of upgrading
crisp rapids
do it
lofty lintel
God roll base stats
lofty lintel
flak maniac ?
Yep
trim steppe
This is my columnus im scared of upgrading
DO IT COWARD
lofty lintel
Dum dum and fire frenzy/deathspitter
Stripped down also works for quick repositioning however you drop a little bit of dmg
Thats just my opinion though i like stripped down many people shit on it
trim steppe
Thats just my opinion though i like stripped down many people shit on it
stripped down is fun
lofty lintel
Its great
I dont mind it when i get it on a weapon
Unless its very strict with its blessings/perks
crisp rapids
i already using the supress immunity + the thing once my toughness break i get a speedboos
lofty lintel
Oh
lofty lintel
Yesyes
crisp rapids
speed demon
crisp rapids
i think ppl shit on defensive and safety on this game a tad too much
lofty lintel
Yea
crisp rapids
🙏
trim steppe
i think ppl shit on defensive and safety on this game a tad too much
I'd agree, I am an advocate for Gloryhunter but everyone else argues for a 2% dps increase instead
crisp rapids
brunt trolling me
lofty lintel
I saw someone a few days ago argue that he was so good at the game he didnt need any tankiness talents
He was running zealot without any of the defensive talents
lofty lintel
His argument was hes too good to be hit so he doesnt need them
Which is fucking stupid
I was just reading i didnt wanna bother to say anything
crisp rapids
not all zealots, but always a zealot
i dont get why its always zealots saying/doing stupid stuff on y games
my*
crisp rapids
i just rolled about 500k worth of amonguses
trim steppe
Yowch
tall torrent
Stopping power needs to be high on Columnus mk5 or it’s not good
crisp rapids
yeah
barren cave
whats the dump stat on columnus
trim steppe
I have spent about 40k ordos on CIAGs lol, I just bought 4 good greys from Brunt and then rolled a perfect orange from there. Meanwhile I have other weapons that after 8 months I dont have their required blessing
trim steppe
whats the dump stat on columnus
mobility/ammo
tall torrent
whats the dump stat on columnus
You’re not gonna believe this but damage is one of the stats u actually don’t care about all that much
tall torrent
but how much is "high"
As close to 80 as possible
crisp rapids
on stapping power.
well yeah
but like whats the breakpoint
"dont take anything below X"
75?
73?
tall torrent
We don’t care about breakpoints on full auto all that much
trim steppe
"dont take anything below X"
80
tall torrent
I think >70 is a good baseline
crisp rapids
:XD:
trim steppe
Legitimately on all weapons, I don't look at it if one of the main stats is <75
73 on a main stat? Dumpster
But I'm also a maniac
crisp rapids
yeah been more less that
i now have like 7
weapons to upgrade/test
back to BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAUTOING shit
trim steppe
Forgive me but I just want to brag again for a sec
crisp rapids
🙏
trim steppe
Very nice
crisp rapids
i am not running maniac or unyielding cause legit agrip weapons seem to do enough on ragets
ragers and muties etc
since this is more less what you'll be hitting 90% of the time with a agrip brauto
manied and unyielding is ehough enough , so i much rather get flak and put all dmg on more less the "same" level.
unarmored is also not that bad. flak unarmored takes care of all shooters, which is pretty good sinec i am running executioner
running around gunninng down highlighted targets, is very much a free bird solo.
killzone seems weird to get if i depend on close range kills. but i actually do dig it.
the other option is fucking opening salvo and this isnt a crit weapon.
killing things a faster when they are not within free bird range is nice
alpine pebble
snubbed
wraith locust
Forgive me but I just want to brag again for a sec
Extremely pog moment
idle swallow
sharp ember
nice
alpine pebble
supasoka
ebon umbra
i wanna see a 1% thermal resist plasma
crude ermine
Shoot once and it blows up
pearl granite
what would be best blessings on a columnus mk5 iag? and mk2b bolter?
terse idol
what would be best blessings on a columnus mk5 iag? and mk2b bolter?
Columnus like
Dum dum, and death spitter or fire frenzy
I don't know which is better ds or fs
sharp ember
what would be best blessings on a columnus mk5 iag? and mk2b bolter?
bolter wants Pinning Fire, Surgical, but it's not the end of the world if you land other blessings
sharp ember
also, is this plasma good? I'm looking for a build as well
very good potential on this plasma
- Unarmored secures dreg gunner 1 headshot
- Gets Hot 4 is best blessing
gloryhunter is good, but can be swapped to Blaze Away 3 for more damage when blasting a monster or large elite horde
I don't think Specialists is going to help anything, it should probably be Maniac, or your choice of Flak/Unyielding/Carapace
so you could either swap Gloryhunter or swap both Perks to your enemies of choice
pearl granite
thanks, I'll see if I can find blaze away. it maxed at 3?
sharp ember
yeah it only exists at 3, kinda annoying to find
tall torrent
thanks, I'll see if I can find blaze away. it maxed at 3?
Blaze away is only tier3
ebon umbra
blaze away being tier 3 is a huge blow to plasma bcuz it makes it difficult to get a 550 plasma
and that is anti dopamine
pearl granite
btw what count as "continous fire"? until I reload?
tall torrent
Rating is not as relevant as actual performance
tall torrent
btw what count as "continous fire"? until I reload?
It just means keep clicking mouse 1
ebon umbra
Rating is not as relevant as actual performance
yeah but pretty number
sharp ember
yeah but pretty number
i bet you hate magazine sizes with odd numbers
pearl granite
nah I'll just cannibal its blaze away for the better gun
ebon umbra
i bet you hate magazine sizes with odd numbers <:whatthefuck_heresy:104972444420...
i am the most neurotic vet player i am practically a psyker. and yes. it does bother me being close to 134 mag. i'd rather be at 120 than be at 128
pearl granite
gun is done. now looking for a build...
ebon umbra
gun is done. now looking for a build...
how many plasmas have you rolled
pearl granite
3 😊
ebon umbra
i am very happy for you
barren cave
i am the most neurotic vet player i am practically a psyker. and yes. it does bo...
in before you get so used to hellbore you forget the instinctive habit of tactical reloading from fps games
pearl granite
thanks
pearl granite
in before you get so used to hellbore you forget the instinctive habit of tactic...
tactical reloading? you mean reload when it's empty and then you press R, a horde jump on top of you?
barren cave
tactical reloading? you mean reload when it's empty and then you press R, a hord...
no , when youve fired one bullet and wanna press r
ebon umbra
@pearl granite best bet is to go mid tree vet with survivalist and shredders. go down to mid keystone, get crit right b4 extra nade, pick up superiority complex from left and 10% melee from right if u want that jazz
hollow cloak
why use anything other than powersword
barren cave
why use anything other than powersword
because I dont have power cycler 4
pearl granite
power sword need to be charged, kinda annoying I guess? 🤔
barren cave
its actually quite fun when you get into the flow of it
hollow cloak
yeah but it's #1t
misty quest
power sword is strong but doesn't have great defensive potential
hollow cloak
because I dont have power cycler 4 <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
i just rolled t4 power cycler at hadron
already had it thpo
barren cave
becomes very easy to charge between hits even in tight fighting
misty quest
the dodge sucks ass
hollow cloak
if ur using a godly one it outclasses every weapon
terse idol
if ur using a godly one it outclasses every weapon
Well besides the rashad
ebon umbra
if you're playing a heavy gun build maybe the ps6 just isnt for you.
a dclaw can let you keep more gun uptime.
pearl granite
<@172277831215218688> best bet is to go mid tree vet with survivalist and shredd...
okay, i'll try this out
ebon umbra
also axe mobility vs ps6