veteran-class

[celest vine]

But in a horde

[terse idol]

How are ya not one shooting snipers

Unless you're using left click

[celest vine]

Uncharged

[terse idol]

To fish for a crit

Hmmm

[gusty bison]

Oh

[terse idol]

Hmmmmm

[gusty bison]

Rip

Mk 2 charges so fast tho

I guess without onslaught its not RIDICULOUS speed

[celest vine]

Im aware of the speed

[real lintel]

Onslaught is so good xD

[gusty bison]

Im too used to onslaught on my Mk 2 xD

By the time I've even aimed its fully charged

[terse idol]

Could I use onslaught for the mk3 and make it... not so clunky

[real lintel]

Onslaught 4 makes it charge max almost as fast as its normal shot xD

[gusty bison]

Yes.

[celest vine]

I like my MG1A tho

[terse idol]

[gusty bison]

8% stopping power

lel

[celest vine]

Not even the worst stat

[strange sparrow]

@gusty bison How did you built your hellbore mk2

[gusty bison]

Optimal is
Unarmoured Maniac
Onslaught Surgical

Mine doesnt have Surgical

Which is a small F

[strange sparrow]

Talent Tree?

[gusty bison]

Oh

[strange sparrow]

I feel like left tree doesn't give much breakpoint too

[gusty bison]

Longshot, VoC, Precision Strikes, Deadshot, Duck n Dive

Rest to taste

[spark helm]

Wait a minute... iag means infantry auto gun.

Yeah I got a mk v what am I talking about that gun rips

[serene sage]

Both Precision Strike and Superiority Complex can help?

[celest vine]

Deadshot for crits

[serene sage]

Hell, Camouflage Marksman Focus can also help

[dusty sluice]

what lmao

[celest vine]

The pointy stik

[dusty sluice]

slightly sharp metal rod

[spark helm]

Yeah deadshot is a whole thing. Personally hate it but

[celest vine]

3 stam curio in an MG1A does it major justice

[serene sage]

3 stam deadshot Columnus

Peak gameplay

[gusty bison]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af38053-77a2-4c9c-89c2-19dcf3ed04ce/helbore-mk-2-option-1

Heres option 1

[strange sparrow]

Precision Strike yea, but Superiority Complex less overall

[dusty sluice]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aeec292-caf3-42e2-afac-15adedc6604e/vet-3-3 this is what i use

[celest vine]

Hell yeah

[strange sparrow]

You already hit a lot of breakpoint prior, and the elite damge doesn't seem give much (?)

[serene sage]

Honestly depends on the gun

[real lintel]

15% base is pretty good, since all the multipliers are after that is added in.

[gusty bison]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af380f6-f1bf-45b7-b6c8-cd799efa9337/helbore-2-option-2 Heres option 2

[strange sparrow]

Not for Lasborn because most of the time, it's kinda overkill

[serene sage]

I think Plasma needs it

For body shot breakpoints

[strange sparrow]

My Overkill Damage be like

Worse than plasma player

[serene sage]

Wtf someone did 356k boss damage out of 447k total?

[gusty bison]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af38166-2539-4c2d-9bad-586df1f5e4be/barebones And this is the absolute barebones of the build. Add talents on top of this as desired

[serene sage]

The fuck happened there

[strange sparrow]

We were hunting Daemonhost

[serene sage]

TH Zealot killing bosses only?

[strange sparrow]

Well a guy was

Yea

Zealot just decided that he want to purge every daemonhost on auric mael

while having 4 weakened boss spawn in

[gusty bison]

Helbore does not need rending btw

At all

[strange sparrow]

Wait really?

[dusty sluice]

its for the sillynes with the shovel

[gusty bison]

Shovel... can work with rending i guess

[gusty bison]

Yes really

Go look at the Helbore's ADM

[dusty sluice]

(this is slightly a meme build)

[strange sparrow]

ADM?

[gusty bison]

Frankly I like going right instead of middle if you like melee

[cerulean coral]

wondering if this thing hits any breakpoints going from +elite to +flak (or maybe +unyielding for boss damage)

idk what blessings are good for chainsword either

[gusty bison]

Armour Damage Modifiers

Helbore is like

[dusty sluice]

i use melee on everything but this build lmao

[gusty bison]

90+% flak
110-180% maniac
60% cara

Rending is mostly whatever

[dusty sluice]

also how is the kant xii lasgun?

[gusty bison]

🤮

[strange sparrow]

How do you deal with Cara with HellBore

Do you just toss krak at em

[gusty bison]

Just shoot

No

Just shoot them

Its 60% damage

[strange sparrow]

the TTK is hella bad with them imo

[gusty bison]

Its better than most things

And cara is like

Crushers

Just melee them

If they get close

[serene sage]

Everything nowadays is "bad" at killing crushers except plasma, revolver

[gusty bison]

Compared to melee that is

Nah

[serene sage]

Just shoot em

[gusty bison]

Plasma is "bad"

[strange sparrow]

Plasma is "Bad" against Crusher thou

I would rather just toss krak and let it be

[gusty bison]

Like

[ivory rock]

yeet

[dusty sluice]

whats the best out of those 3?

[gusty bison]

Compared to melee, all ranged options except revolver (and bolter to some extent)

are "bad" vs crushers

[serene sage]

But you're missing out on arguably the most OP blitz im the game

[ivory rock]

The spasm I had last night watchin my plasma vet never shoot his plasma vs anything but poxwalkers was insane

[serene sage]

Krak is overrated

[gusty bison]

Kantrael MG1a is the best of the 3 id say

[serene sage]

But a large margin

[gusty bison]

MG4 is decent with the right playstyle

MG12 is lacking a role

[strange sparrow]

No, fak the shredder

I will never accept Shredder

[dusty sluice]

damn really?

[gusty bison]

Yes

MG12 atm is prolly the worst of the 3

(And actually kinda behind the pack too)

[strange sparrow]

Refuse the Shredder, Embrace Krak instant deletus Bulwark + Crusher

[dusty sluice]

i see

[gusty bison]

I have a shovel...

[strange sparrow]

I toss one = out of sight out of mind

[serene bough]

krak and shredders both have a place in my heart

smokes i try to like

[gusty bison]

But yea new shovel kinda just made crushers... invalid

[dusty sluice]

whats the most useful perks/blessings?

[strange sparrow]

I do not want to get near a crusher with 400 ms ping on NA server

unironically

[serene bough]

headhunter + deadly accurate

[gusty bison]

Flak Maniac, Headhunter Deadly accurate

[serene bough]

if you dont fancy DA ghost also works as a defensive blessing

[dusty sluice]

ah, just like the headhunters then

[gusty bison]

Nah you really want DA

[gusty bison]

not like the headhunters

[tall torrent]

It’s mainly because it needs either exe stance or marksman focus to MAINTAIN 1 shot breakpoints

[serene sage]

Virgin Krak deleting 3 crushers if you are mega lucky vs Chad frag killing 30 poxwalkers, 15 gunners, 10 ragers, while tucking you in bed and kissing your good night

[gusty bison]

headhunters want surgical

[dusty sluice]

i only really use the mk3 (on zealot)

[gusty bison]

Oh fair

[serene sage]

Talk to me when krak has half the girth of these babies

[strange sparrow]

Boltgun user

[gusty bison]

But yea, I would never pair Helbore with krak

Kinda pointless

[strange sparrow]

smh

[gusty bison]

Bolter is fine tbh

[tall torrent]

Helbore + double regen frag + agile engagement

[strange sparrow]

CAMERA SWAY

AAAA

[serene sage]

What sway

[tall torrent]

Agile engagement helbore 1/2 is so silly

[gusty bison]

NOT USING DEADSHOT >:C

[serene sage]

Sorry can't hear you over the thundering rounds and dead heretics

[sharp ember]

shredder frag users when they see an elite patrol

[serene bough]

the most satisfying is when you delete maulers

[dusty sluice]

how silly?

[gusty bison]

Very

[tall torrent]

Bayonet kills buff up lasgun
Lasgun kills buff up bayonet
Keep doing both and you get +25% dmg on both

[dusty sluice]

lmaooo

didn't realise the bayonet would count

[gusty bison]

And the bayo is nuts

Like

[sharp ember]

does the buff timer just set off immediately

[tall torrent]

It is for this reason I have forego tinkerer on my builds

[gusty bison]

Hi yes I would like to 2 shot ragers

[tall torrent]

Yes

But it actually gives you 2 different agile engagement buffs

[sharp ember]

[gusty bison]

Forget weapon specialist.

Helbore all in one package

:P

[dusty sluice]

do you have a silly build suggestion?

[tall torrent]

This is the tried & true helbore 1/2 + Rashad build

[strange sparrow]

Wait really?

I meant the agile engagement

[sage agate]

crazy how it used to be the best

but Ia my beloved

🤗

[serene bough]

mg12 has been dethroned

rest in peace

[raven abyss]

whats the strongest build beside plasma gun currently? 😮 want ur opionion :OOOO pls ❤️

[tall torrent]

Bayonet kills give one agile engagement buff icon and buffs the lasgun
Lasgun kills give a separate agile engagement buff icon and buffs the bayonet
You can have both of these icons active at the same time (meaning both buffs active)

[gusty bison]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af385f7-39e2-4a78-9404-708e2e2b38de/agile-helbore Fear me :P

All the melee buffs >:D

[gusty bison]

Strongest build isnt plasma

Its Melee vet with weapon spec revolver

[sage agate]

haters will say it isn't lasgun Ia squad leader

[tall torrent]

I rly do think the 15% elite is a must-pick for HB
Gives you gunner breakpoints that are otherwise kinda hard to get

[gusty bison]

I have +Unarmoured

So

[sharp ember]

columnus infantry autogun with onslaught
zarona revolver with weapon specialist

[gusty bison]

No issue there

[tall torrent]

HB2 needs more than just 25% unarmored

[gusty bison]

I think at 8m the Longshot buff is enough

[sage agate]

oh yeah columnus is nutty

[gusty bison]

And under 8m you just Bayo the fucker

[raven abyss]

thank you so much for ur answers ❤️

[dusty sluice]

yesss

also is flakiac fine for helbore or is there smth better?

[tall torrent]

HB2 specifically wants 25% unarmored + 25% maniac

[gusty bison]

It is a 1 talent pickup though so pretty easy to find the point

[dusty sluice]

i use the 1

[gusty bison]

1 wants Unyielding

And uh

[tall torrent]

HB1 I think if you want the most efficient breakpoint combo is maniac + elite

[gusty bison]

Maniac?

Oh right rager

[tall torrent]

Flamer 1 tap without crit

[dusty sluice]

yay

[gusty bison]

Should be able to do it without maniac

Longshot 8m doesnt cut it?

[tall torrent]

Missing like 200 dmg from what I tested

[gusty bison]

Under 8m you just stab the flamer

[strange sparrow]

I mean yea

[tall torrent]

I also kind of don’t like going LS + ET route with helbore lasguns

Even though they’re very headshot focused weapons

[gusty bison]

Fair, you can just dip 1 into LS though

[tall torrent]

A lot of the times you’re not gonna be getting easy headshots

[gusty bison]

No reason not to

1 talent point for a +10% damage in most situations

And in the situations you dont get it you have the bayo

[tall torrent]

In any case

Agile engagement

Should be enough lol

[gusty bison]

Yea agile kicks you way over

[tall torrent]

I don’t find longshot necessary

[gusty bison]

Id say its really cheap for what it does

[tall torrent]

If I can just bayonet some poor soul and get that breakpoint

Since I’m going for agile anyway

[gusty bison]

Cos it does help vs bosses

And uh

[tall torrent]

Unyielding also fine

[gusty bison]

Reapers?

[dusty sluice]

iv'e never really seen demolition team used, is it good?

[tall torrent]

Reaper is very consistent 2 tap for me cuz it charge slower for surgical to build up stacks

[limber egret]

this stats hurts to look at

[tall torrent]

Mine is 25% maniac, 8% elite, onslaught 4 and surgical 4

[gusty bison]

I was thinking if you can move it into a 1 tap

With LS + Unyield

[tall torrent]

Prob gonna be real difficult

Cuz it’s missing a lot of dmg

[gusty bison]

Mmm fair

Helbores do be weird with their "ideal" stats ngl

[tall torrent]

It’s one of the few talents that scale up in power as difficulty goes up

The more elite/special the game throws at u, the more nades you can throw out

Sometimes you can drop like 6 frags in one horde

[gusty bison]

Its one of those guns where your build changes up the perks you want so much

Demo team is solid

Its just that its competing with Iron Will

Which is a tough sell

[tall torrent]

They’re equally good imo

Most other talents are not as good

[gusty bison]

Vet has a long list of bangers tbh

And a lot of the more "meh" talents are kinda more of taxes

[ivory rock]

please come home dead4 the kids miss you

[serene bough]

infested dmg

[serene sage]

We shooting dogs

[serene bough]

🤢

[serene sage]

And mentally ill people

[gusty bison]

And poxbur- wait

[serene sage]

And suicidal people

Best armor type

[flint garden]

gotta blow up poxbursters in ppls faces before they can push

[serene bough]

not always the worst idea to shoot poxbursters

just awkward when someone charges the burster you're firing at

[serene sage]

If they are not meant to be shot then why would you be able to damage them

Check mate atheist

Shoot everything on sight

[signal rock]

headhunter or infernus on lasgun?

[serene bough]

love mag dumping

[gusty bison]

Headhunter

I assume you mean infantry lasgun

[serene bough]

infernus no good

[ivory rock]

I take what I can get

[signal rock]

i mean the dmg isnt too bad i feel like

[gusty bison]

Its nothing compared to Headhunter + Deadly Accurate

[serene bough]

headhunter is far better damage

[signal rock]

yeah probably, thanks!

[serene bough]

true

supression is a mechanic afterall

[gusty bison]

Suppression is a mechanic to piss off Helbore users

:P

[signal rock]

currently i only have 18+ headhunter and only 1 re-bless left but i fugred fuk it and apply it anways eh?

[south garnet]

blaming the person you blew up a poxwalker on is like running into a wall and saying it leapt out and attacked you

[serene bough]

i thought helbores didnt have to deal with supression

[gusty bison]

They do when your teammate suppresses the target you are trying to kill and now they are hiding behind full cover

[dusty sluice]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aeec292-caf3-42e2-afac-15adedc6604e/vet-3-3 changed this up a little how is it?

[south garnet]

stop hitting yourself stop hitting yourself

[gusty bison]

"JUST LET ME ONE TAP HIM DAMMIT, STOP MAKING HIM HIDE" xD

[serene bough]

my las

[gusty bison]

But yea, suppression and stagger on enemies are my kryptonite when im running helbore

Cant tell you how many shots Ive missed cos some ally staggered the target as I was aiming

:c

xD

[serene bough]

can never tell when supression actually works or not

[terse idol]

You'll know when you see gunners be like

WOAH

[serene bough]

yes but

[gusty bison]

The main annoyance with suppression I find is the gunners will pick the most inopportune time to come out of suppression

[serene bough]

sometimes i feel like they just ignore it no matter how often you shoot at them

[gusty bison]

Usually when you are looking elsewhere

[serene bough]

and other times a stray bullet will have them scatter

[gusty bison]

Gunners are much harder to suppress when they are already shooting

Which is usually the time you want the suppression the most -,-

[ivory rock]

This memory leak is gonna give me an anyeursym

[gusty bison]

They are easiest to suppress when they are just moving around/finding a position/patrolling/not shooting yet

Which usually causes them to immediately move to cover and hide

:/

Instead of being easy targets

[dapper delta]

I’m making a new vet what would be a funny name

[sage agate]

john veteran

[dapper delta]

Alright 👍

[dusty sluice]

hadron is going to brick this so hard

if the other rolls are ok ig i'm fine with infested

[sage agate]

+5% groaners, poxwalkers and terrifying barrage (huh???) incoming

[dusty sluice]

[strange grove]

well did she brick it?

is this worth?

[gilded wraith]

Twins fight question. I completed the fight in regular damanation mode. Can I now use the teleport with a premade, or does that require beating it in hard mode first?

[midnight mortar]

The bell skip is available when the host has completed the bell puzzle at some point in the past.

[tiny summit]

Pull the lever. No balls

[gilded wraith]

Thank you!

[ivory rock]

]

[ebon umbra]

"nerf gunner pushback" lol

[marsh condor]

I remembered when I said I wished the Agripinaa Brauto should be more like a machine gun.

Turns out, the equivalent of that pattern (the RPK) has 40 rounds per magazine on average.

[ivory rock]

Man I wish this things face was covered

[ivory rock]

tl;dr make gunner resist actually affect bullets cause HOLY FUCKING SHIT I HATE GETTING PUSHED 20FT BACK CAUSE A REAPER WONT GET STUNNED OFF 4 HEADSHOTS

[ebon umbra]

p sure i got sniped today bcuz gunner pushback

[strange sparrow]

watch as this get bricked

Fuck yea thanks Hadron

[tall torrent]

At least u could harvest a t4 blessing

[strange grove]

now what?

get the perks to lvl 4 and leave blessings?

[tiny summit]

Idk. Idk shovels

[low oar]

I'd swap skull crusher to decimator

[strange grove]

and flak to t4?

[low oar]

And flak to level 4 flak

[bitter turtle]

personally

i actually prefer skullcrusher

but there's not too many things to swap around anyway so you can try both

i've been thinking about removing uncanny from my shovel actually but i havent actually tried it so cant recommend lul

limbsplitter where

😔

[strange grove]

wow this thing is OP, 1 shots almost everything but the biggest of the big bois

using folding mode

[bitter turtle]

nah

its balanced by very bad unyielding dmg

[low oar]

Shovel horde clear is a fuck load of light spam so decimator does loads of work

[strange grove]

and it even baseballs poxbursters

like the OG shovel

[bitter turtle]

sc also benefits from left click spam

[low oar]

Or just kill them without having to hit them a second time

[bitter turtle]

ya, but that's after you've built up swings

the alpha damage is higher with sc if you aren't already swinging 10x

its preference

not saying deci is bad

just personally i prefer sc

depends on how long you have it out and also if you run right side tree imo

which makes deci more appealing with 25% aspd

[dusty sluice]

bricked?

[bitter turtle]

usable

melee to flak/maniac/carapace depends on your preference

sunder to pc4

or

actually

just swap infested

melee dmg to elites is fine

[dusty sluice]

i was going to say

[bitter turtle]

i actually have infested on mine

lol

[dusty sluice]

infested to cara?

[bitter turtle]

is why i said that on instinct

[serene sage]

Infested so you can kill poxbusters better

[sage agate]

prolly put flak instead of infested and then pc4

[low oar]

Infested for the sick plague ogryn DPS

[sage agate]

tho maniac might be worth for funny rager/mutie breakpoint

[sage agate]

i thought plagueryn was unyielding 😭

[serene sage]

If only 😔

[dusty sluice]

it is

[sage agate]

oh

[dusty sluice]

i need to get a pc4

oh noo

[low oar]

Oh it is just unyielding. I just be using a wrong infographic mentally

[serene sage]

Dude has the word plague in his name

Clearly infested

[low oar]

I'm still annoyed that flamers don't have fire resistance

The moebian flamer is 100% wearing fire proof clothing

[serene sage]

Flamers should have 50% chance to explode on death

Thanks for coming to my TED talk

[low oar]

Tank becomes a weak point

[serene sage]

Weakspots kill means 100% chance to explode

[dusty sluice]

nice lmao

[barren cave]

finally got that 90% accu penance done

[strange grove]

is the agri HH any good or no?

[gusty bison]

Its... ok

Just in a weird place

[cedar pecan]

Low rating, I know, but is it still usable?

[gusty bison]

Generally the two burst on a precision weapon is kinda rough due to stagger

[gusty bison]

Its meh

Not bad

But the relaod speed is gonna suffer

Collateral is a dump stat. U can ignore that one

[cedar pecan]

what does collateral mean actually

[gusty bison]

Suppression and stagger

[cedar pecan]

ah

I'll keep that in mind then, thanks

[strange grove]

just curious, I have a godroll vraks7, honestly didn't know they had an agri HH

[umbral scaffold]

I don’t think that’s even introduced to the game yet correct me if im@wrong

[sage agate]

better take a reload talent

[low oar]

There's no fire resistance in the game yet

[sage agate]

i always thought that flamer damage is lumped in with bomber damage

but i can be very wrong

[umbral scaffold]

Yea a revamp to the armor types would be cool. I think maybe maniac could introduce some fire resistance and maybe a separate demonic armor type that takes less ranged damage but more melee damage

[fossil basalt]

The latter is just muties with extra steps?

[umbral scaffold]

Demons currently are under the unyielding type

[celest oracle]

New to game what guns does anyone recommend

[fossil basalt]

Whatever you find fun try them all

[fleet garden]

columnus mk5, plasma, revolver

[bitter turtle]

try the infantry autoguns first

just pick one you like

they're good enough without any specific builds dedicated to them and play in a very obvious way so you can get used to the game

[sage agate]

iags and lasguns are a good start, but try them all

[tall torrent]

Infantry autoguns
Super easy to roll, relatively easy to use, simple to understand

Any of the 3 is good

[celest oracle]

I am using one with a bayonet and I had a pistol which was good I am struggling with not dying I tend to die alot out of everyone in my squad

[sage agate]

we have a weapons primer in the pins if you want to take a look

[celest oracle]

Also how do I change my characters voice

[sage agate]

cant, need to make a new character

[tall torrent]

You gotta learn melee
Unfortunately veteran is probably the hardest character to learn for beginners

[hollow ibex]

Does anyone know the mod that lets you change weapon names?

[tall torrent]

You can’t (yet?)

[sage agate]

Name It

[hollow ibex]

Yeah I’m asking for the name

[celest oracle]

Dang I hope there’s a upcoming update

[hollow ibex]

Jk jk

Thanks will have to take a look

[sage agate]

i got baited

[celest oracle]

Veteran looks so cool through

[sage agate]

[celest oracle]

Though

[hollow ibex]

Hehe couldn’t resist, it’ll be a good mod to have

[celest oracle]

I just want a item shop reset

[tall torrent]

Yea he’s pretty cool
It’s kind of funny how the “generic soldier” archetype ends up being the hardest character to learn & play as

[sage agate]

just be willing to go into melee when the situation calls for it, dont think your only gimmick is shooting people far away

[celest oracle]

The bayonet works really well

[sage agate]

i love it

also good for renaming curiois

[celest oracle]

That’s awesome

[tall torrent]

You still should learn melee mechanics like blocking and dodging

[fleet garden]

psword

blocking?

oh you mean block cancel

[celest oracle]

Yes I should practice I have been playing the hard mission’s because I want gold

Fast

[tall torrent]

Don’t worry about dockets if you’re just starting out

Learn the basic mechanics first (there’s a lot to learn)

[celest oracle]

Ok I should do that your right does anyone want to play sometime later this week or day

[fossil basalt]

If you're not alive to practice you won't get better haha

[tall torrent]

Are u on steam or Xbox, and what region are u in

[celest oracle]

Xbox in na west I think

[tall torrent]

I’m down to play rn if you’re available

[wet elk]

this should be good right?

[sage agate]

welcome to the guard, comrade

[sage agate]

so no pc4?

looks good tho

[wet elk]

sadly not

[tall torrent]

Bricked pretty hard tbh but if you have nothing else, this will have to do

[sage agate]

maybe infested to flak tho

[fleet garden]

yep

[wet elk]

pc4 would make this sword crazy

[celest oracle]

Can’t play atm I’m about to hike but shoot me your gamer tag over dm and I will add you when I get back

[tall torrent]

My fatshark code is my name in here

[fossil basalt]

bricked
psword still outperforms most melees

[tall torrent]

Idk, vet has a lot of good melee options rn

[celest oracle]

How do I do that?

[wet elk]

i been using this one

this shovel fucks

[fleet garden]

get uncanny

[wet elk]

dont have on shovel

[fleet garden]

sadge

[tall torrent]

Copy my name here (the 955 string of numbers)
Go into game -> menu -> social -> bottom right “find player” -> enter the numbers you copied

[celest oracle]

Ok I took screenshot I will add you when I get back

[dusty sluice]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af3b79d-76dc-404e-b8f3-ee7697ee3fba/grenade-spam-vet (this is kinda a meme build) any changes?

[bitter turtle]

twinned probably sint eworth it even for a nade build

aside from that

not really

nade psamming is legit

[tall torrent]

No grenade tinkerer on a nade spam build is sacrilegious

[dusty sluice]

forgot

[umbral scaffold]

xd

[dusty sluice]

what can i sacrifice to grab it?

[celest oracle]

I need that skin

[tall torrent]

Personally I’d drop twinned blast and rending

[celest oracle]

And the ones with the goggles on the helmet

[tall torrent]

That’s unfortunately not available to players yet

[celest oracle]

Rats that one’s awesome

[dusty sluice]

oki, also is the lasgun fine?

[bitter turtle]

personally

[tall torrent]

MG1a is good yea

[bitter turtle]

i'd actually just not grab survivalist

lasguns have crazy ammo efficiency no?

you can route through fire team which buffs the nades further

and grab tinkerer easily

[dusty sluice]

ig

[bitter turtle]

up to you

depends if you care about your teammates having the aura lul

[tall torrent]

Not high enough to run without survivalist imo

[bitter turtle]

i dont think you need it though

ah

[tall torrent]

1a is usually 2 headshots on gunners & flamers

[bitter turtle]

maybe not then

[tall torrent]

So 6 ammo for each

[fleet garden]

mg IV is decent aswell

[dusty sluice]

orrrr i take every grenade talent

[tall torrent]

Tbh if you’re gonna run every single grenade talent there is, you should pick weapons that don’t rely on stuff deep in left

[dusty sluice]

fair

[tall torrent]

Maybe this

[strange grove]

these new shovel specials are going to get nerfed

[dusty sluice]

ig

what abt these?

[umbral scaffold]

They have to have something special for them to compete against swords that slice through you on the molecular level

[tall torrent]

Use weapons that don’t rely on these to function

[dusty sluice]

ooooh, i see, what would you suggest?

[tall torrent]

Power sword is fine?
Braced autoguns? Idk

I never played with every grenade talent before lol

[dusty sluice]

the silly

[bitter turtle]

they wont

why would they be nerfed

the shovels are very balanced

have you ever tried

killing a monstro with them

[serene sage]

I did it's not that good, heavy diminishing returns

[bitter turtle]

or a bulwark

they do no dmg

the unyielding modifier is so bad on them

unlike psword that just cuts through literally everything

[serene sage]

What you really need is just Tinkered, Stockpile, Demo Team

Anything more is overkill

[bitter turtle]

I think grenadier is good if you can afford it

+1 max grenade gets you a lot more grenades built up over the game

[serene sage]

Sure, honorary mention

Grenadier > Improv > Twin

Imo

[celest vine]

anyone have a better keybind list? just tranfered to PC and cant find a better key for dodging other than spacebar

[serene sage]

Just dodge

[dusty sluice]

i use a side mouse button

[serene sage]

I bind ping to side button

[tall torrent]

I suggest you separate dodge and jump into 2 separate keybinds

[celest vine]

[bitter turtle]

i use space to dodge still

[serene sage]

Special to middle mouse

[bitter turtle]

but i use pings on mouse keys

[tall torrent]

I have jump on my mouse side button

[bitter turtle]

on the side

[celest vine]

uh'

[bitter turtle]

same with special actions and crouching

[celest vine]

I spot with E

[serene sage]

Twin

[serene sage]

Not twin

[celest vine]

side so far is to activate special ability

[serene sage]

Thumb mouse superior

Trust

[tall torrent]

I tag with 3

[celest vine]

for spot

[tall torrent]

But I play with prob the weirdest keybinds possible

[celest vine]

it used to be Q

[serene sage]

What's your middle mouse doing bro?

[celest vine]

swap weapons

[bitter turtle]

Middle mouse for special action for me

[tall torrent]

I really do not like pressing down on the scroll wheel

[bitter turtle]

And q is still quickswap

[serene sage]

Twin again

[celest vine]

so ill throw spot back to middle

Q to swap

[serene sage]

Disable scroll swap

For your own sanity

Just swap with Q

[bitter turtle]

You don't like crouch on side mouse?

[celest vine]

side mouse for dodge

[bitter turtle]

What do you put it on

[serene sage]

You have a melee and and ranged, Q is enough

[serene sage]

Left Ctrl like a normal person?

[tall torrent]

Never really found a need to press down the scroll wheel

[celest vine]

G will stay grenade

[bitter turtle]

Ctrl is hella awkward to press to initiate slides though

[dusty sluice]

same

[bitter turtle]

Since sprint is shift

Unless you rebound that

[serene sage]

Risk of Rain will do that to you

It's actually worse in RoR because Shift is utility skill and Ctrl is sprint

[bitter turtle]

How do you even press them together naturally

[halcyon zephyr]

If your mouse has 2 side buttons, I bind ping on the forward one and special action on the back one.
I have a g502 which has a 3rd side button (a macro key) that I bind to an mouse 1 repeat-on-hold to save my wrists and spam light attacks.
do what others said about changing jump from spacebar. Or get the mod to make double-tapping a direction to dodge.
ult on E, interact on F, crouch/slide on C, swap weapons on Q.
Push to Talk is set to V, and I have a Discord bind to mute-on-hold set to V as well. That way there's no cross chatter when I'm talking in discord and ingame

[halcyon zephyr]

it's spamming through all my weapons in an elevator to show off my scroll speed prowess to the team

[tall torrent]

Then again I don’t even play WASD for movement keys

[halcyon zephyr]

way to bury the lead lol

[bitter turtle]

I play on the power glove

[serene sage]

anyway, here are the keys I rebind
Q for swap
1 for ranged
2 for melee
3 for grenade
4 for stim
` for Auspex
G for Ammo Box/Med Kit
Ctrl for slide
Thumb mouse 1 for Reload (this is for Psyker)
Thumb mouse 2 for Ping
M3 for special

sensible

yes?

[tall torrent]

The way WASD is laid out on a keyboard is the most uncomfortable position I can use

[halcyon zephyr]

Vet Keybinds
Bind reload for psyker class

[serene sage]

[bitter turtle]

Man

[serene sage]

well I have multiple keybind mod, R and Thumb 1 both reload

[bitter turtle]

You say crouch on ctrl bc you're a" normal person "

[serene sage]

[bitter turtle]

Yet reload is not on r

[serene sage]

It is the power of mod

I just list Thumb 1 cause funny

[halcyon zephyr]

What kind of mouse do you have and what keyboard layout do you use?

Since it has been brought up, I suppose they're valid to provide input on

[serene sage]

related note, I have a legit 7 year old mech keyboard I am still using

one of the best purchase i made

I went through like 8 mouses during that though

[halcyon zephyr]

Best purchase I ever made was a pack of 100 double-edge razor blades for $7 in 2012. I used the last blade in 2021*.

[serene sage]

do you know what i hate, not being able to grow a beard but still have to shave
otherwise I look like a pubescent kid 😔

[celest vine]

I use a standard keyboard and a mouse with two side buttons

I binded ability to the front most

dodge to rear (5)

[serene sage]

[stoic oxide]

Does anyone know what curios are best for vet

currently running full toughness

[serene sage]

it's fine, toughness health all good

[celest vine]

🗿

[serene sage]

stamina for deadshot stuff if you want

[celest vine]

I mainly shoot

thats my thing

[trail quartz]

if i might bring in my experience as a like lv380 vet about curious

[serene sage]

no, no you may not

[trail quartz]

ok

[serene sage]

lol please go ahead

[trail quartz]

xD

[halcyon zephyr]

I run 3x stam and right tree, all sprint+block eff. I like having 15 stamina bars

[serene sage]

you don't have to outrun the horde, you just need to outrun your teammates

[placid portal]

Prefer making a poxxie train and kill em classic Zombies style

[trail quartz]

i usually use with MGXII +3 stam, 2x 20% health since i use ghost (ranged imunnity on weakspot)
if i go bolter i go +3 stam anyways and its on you if yo uuse health or tough
i think stam i ngeneral makes vet rly a utility monster.
the thing i everytime do is for my powersword getting the talent +10% melee dmg

i play bolter btw same as plasma

[celest vine]

Dodge is now spacebar ( muscle memory cant unlearn) spot is E, ability is side button (4), special weapon ability is side button (5)

[serene sage]

i think spot should be on mouse still for more natural movement, but you know you the best good luck

[celest vine]

its only my second day with a PC

so itll take time to get it working

[trail quartz]

atleast your dodge isst on capslock omg.. xD

[serene sage]

i see, i personally can't play anything that requires 3D aiming with controller

[celest vine]

I did so for years

[halcyon zephyr]

Reason we recommend thumb forward for ping is because it transfers to other PC games with Ping very naturally.

[serene sage]

3x+3 Stamina Deadshot Columnus
dew it

[trail quartz]

how you ppl prefer the plasmagun btw? would be interessting to know

[celest vine]

Ill try that for a few games

I use vet spot as my keystone

[trail quartz]

ah voice of command build like?

[halcyon zephyr]

Ability key on your keyboard is better for reasons I can't quite explain, but having to do with internal and external philosophies.

[halcyon zephyr]

vet spot is just a ping isn't it?

[celest vine]

yes

[halcyon zephyr]

Yeah, so mouse forward

[celest vine]

I play battlefield

its always been spot to me

[trail quartz]

if b3 and 4 era yo uare a gud men

[halcyon zephyr]

yup, natrual transition 😄

[serene sage]

You can, but if you are full baller go glass canon

It's funny

[halcyon zephyr]

does "quitting the franchise when BF3 put premium in, bought complete edition of BF4 for $5" count

[celest vine]

BF3 End game will always be ingranded into me

[trail quartz]

i dont mind different builds. the game is ehre to experiment and we went last week (4 randoms lol) 4 vets t auric with 4 vets and 2 had voice of comamnd and we did it, just 2 died

[stoic oxide]

Do you guys prefer Mk VI power sword or MKXIIg assault chainsowrd

[celest vine]

Mk 13

[stoic oxide]

having a hard time deciding

[celest vine]

easy

[trail quartz]

powersword MK3

[celest vine]

its attack pattern is so much better

[halcyon zephyr]

Pssword Six for sure.

[celest vine]

Ah I thought it was chainswords

[trail quartz]

both are guud but if i want space i prefer MK3 PS

[celest vine]

Mk 6 is clunky

[halcyon zephyr]

That's what makes it fun

[celest vine]

Mk3 is more mobile

[trail quartz]

diagonal swings. how i said mk3 has clean horizontal swings thats why i love it to make space to shoot

but both are rly amazing

[halcyon zephyr]

light attacks are diagnals with cleave, charge attacks are sweeps with loads of cleave. push attack is an overhead strike. Can charge while running. Very good sword. Great for repeating the same motion repeatedly.

[golden nacelle]

Not sure how I feel about this boltgun yet. Just tried it out... and it's kinda fun, but I dunno... It kinda plays like a sniper, it's weird

[trail quartz]

beautiful

[stoic oxide]

thanks

ill try the mk3

[trail quartz]

mostly i use mk3 PS for heavy hits since it has a huge load of range too, it makes just space

[hollow ibex]

if you're going to do ps, might as well just do mk6

mk3 is just mk6... but worse

you just need to learn to block cancel, which is super easy

totally offsets the "advantage" that mk3 has

[trail quartz]

depends what u playing. for some cases mk 6 is better against elites and for some isntances is mk 3 better

thats my experience so far

[halcyon zephyr]

light attacks are two quick sweeps, then a diagnal, then a buncha other shit. Charge attacks are overheads and single-target focused. push attack is GOATED and stabs, with an overhead follow-up. Can't charge while running, but can while sliding and transitions into a block easily. Very nasty.
Very good sword, higher skill ceiling. Huge fan of both swords, I've only recently started using the 6 more, and I find it clears hordes a bit quicker as I can move through them faster w/o charging attacks. Either version, power cycler is the single best blessing.

[trail quartz]

90% of my problems as vet arent elites, its poxwalkers or goaners

[weak hamlet]

Is that fine or should I try to get a better one ? Stopping power is eh but it seems good enough

[halcyon zephyr]

And that's why I primarily run this pssword.

[trail quartz]

men keep it, what blessings are on that?

[hollow ibex]

that's the thing, mk6 can kill everything way faster with just light spam, and for the things that it can't kill efficiently with light spam, it still kills faster than mk3 because of the push attack

[weak hamlet]

I know about good blessings, I'm asking specifically about stats

[trail quartz]

instead of infested, go flak or elite

[celest vine]

I had to buy the game through the microsoft store to get my progress transfered

[trail quartz]

hounds and poxwalkers are oneshot anyways : )

[celest vine]

Saved my godly rolls thankfully

[golden nacelle]

You want an opinion you gotta show us the goods

[halcyon zephyr]

I've had this baby forever, I love it too much to touch it.

[weak hamlet]

But it has shattering impact and volatile

[trail quartz]

i see

[weak hamlet]

Idc about volatile but SI is good

[trail quartz]

its directly pulled out of the immaterium to serve you xD lovely item

[celest vine]

Didnt want to lose thesesp

[strange grove]

woo

[halcyon zephyr]

Godly rolls are why we play.

[trail quartz]

god why it has to be an MkI.. xD
i mean i love its sound and its verstiale

[strange grove]

i like it for when my teammates have plasma or revolvers, but otherwise I run my vraks 7

[golden nacelle]

What to change?

[halcyon zephyr]

That is a kick-ass sword.

[golden nacelle]

sprint to flak, speedload to infernus?

[dusty sluice]

is charge too low?

[strange grove]

just get onslaught

[trail quartz]

thats mine atm, nothing special but works for auric t5 maelst and i can clear my space

[stoic oxide]

Should I change the perks or blessings

[trail quartz]

for PS yo ucan ignroe to be honest cleave targets : s go for mobility since you use the activate anyway

[serene sage]

Can I see your bolter uwu

[trail quartz]

i want a better one xD

[serene sage]

😔

[trail quartz]

here : 3

reload sucks

[trim steppe]

Brunt is a chad

[placid portal]

Amazing

[trail quartz]

its kidna sad in like over 900 hours the rng didnt liked me

[placid portal]

tbh I didn't even try to go for the best relic

[halcyon zephyr]

I'm not really a big bolter fan rn

[trail quartz]

but i have to say I LOVE THE HEHADHUNTER VII

[trail quartz]

stabili-what? who cares men xD

it makes booooom

i love it when crushers taunt you "weakling! and you 3 shot them with that badboy

[halcyon zephyr]

IDK what weapon to build. Whether I should dump my mats on my other characters now that they're level 30, or build an actual good MG12

Or fuck it, a plasma.

[radiant hare]

do i spend my melkbucks on this

[trail quartz]

plasma boy : 3

[halcyon zephyr]

But space counter-strike AK47 keeps winning

[trail quartz]

i rly love the MG12 and i have one but with bad stability. i wish for a MG Ia but the emperor hates me

[stoic oxide]

Should I go brutal momentum or slaughterer on the mk3 ps

[trim steppe]

Personally I wouldnt dump limited resources into an MG12. Imo it doesn't hold up as you get into the higher difficulties as there's just too much armor and too many enemies to plink away at

[halcyon zephyr]

slaughterer

[stoic oxide]

thanks

[trim steppe]

BRUTAL

Bromentum is way better than slaughterer

[trail quartz]

thats the plasma younka doynka

[halcyon zephyr]

for mk3?

[trim steppe]

Yes

Bromentum lets you horde clear better than slaughterer with both PSs

[trail quartz]

yes and no on PS

[trim steppe]

Slaughterer is still good in a pinch but ideally you want Bromentum or sunder

[halcyon zephyr]

holy shit my plasma rolls have all been terrible.

[placid portal]

it'll do

[trail quartz]

fuk : s

[placid portal]

Just swap perks for maniac and carapace

I think

[radiant hare]

okay

carapace not flak?

[trail quartz]

what u wanna build if i might ask?

[trim steppe]

Yeah plus if you roll a better one later, you can still strip Surgical 4 off of it for posterity . I'd buy it just for T4 Surgical tbh

[radiant hare]

actually i think carapace is right

[trail quartz]

well, what weapon?

[radiant hare]

^

helbore 3

[trail quartz]

ah yeah sure men

i didnt used it since the update but it was in the past good agaisnt cara

[radiant hare]

ya i dont think flak is needed

[trim steppe]

I only spend melk bucks on 1) perfect godrolls, which never show up in the shop, or 2) T4 blessings. If you get a weapon you want to use with a T4 on it its a no-brainer to me

[trail quartz]

nah i thin kyour raw dmg is enough to deal with flak

but i would actual prefer unyielting since only 1 guy has full cara

cara kidna amtters mroe for bolters or plasma in my opinion

[radiant hare]

is unyielding is for reapers and bosses?

[celest vine]

boom

done

[trim steppe]

yup

[trail quartz]

reapers, bosses, minibosses and bullwarks in the back

[trim steppe]

nice work

[trail quartz]

or bullwarks when they lift their shields

[radiant hare]

maybe i just really hate crushers

[trail quartz]

i usually fire 2 bolters or 1 on a bullwark, he staggers, opens up his shield and i blast all of them away

bullwarks and reapers have 2 different types of dmg multiplicators like maulers.
maulers are only cara on the head, rest is flak.
reapers are flak on arms and limbs, rest is unyielding.
bullwars are unyielding, limbs and arms are cara if i remember correctly

[trail quartz]

eh, oneshot them : P

[radiant hare]

reapers seem to melt instantly

no armor in head

[trail quartz]

most of the time zealots take care of them but if i see them i neshot their face of with plasma and guud

[trail quartz]

yep they look like a lot but they are actually just anoying. you can take them down with 3-4 well palced MG XII shots in the head

[halcyon zephyr]

JFC 3 plasma guns upgraded to legendary, same blessings on all three of htem

[trail quartz]

show me

[radiant hare]

im at the weird phase where heresy is too easy for me but damnation is 50/50 if i can finish

[radiant hare]

so trying out new builds 🍿

[radiant hare]

gets hot is ideal right?

or did u want t4

[trail quartz]

most common problem, believe it or not : )
it depends a lot of your experience and if you trust others or not in your team (i dont want to sound pestimistic)

[halcyon zephyr]

I wanted to just rip some high end blessings out lol

[radiant hare]

[trail quartz]

if it woundnt have the goaners dmg.. xD and isntad unyiedling it would be still a huge boss killer. still i would keep it

42% cri? why not

[halcyon zephyr]

I'm gonna keep the 526 one and change just the perks

[trail quartz]

i dont know if you need the carapace dmg +20 or 25 % to oneshot T5 crushers tho

sure try it out on the field

[halcyon zephyr]

wow.. I have Gets Hot tier 4 already in my bank..

I can make it 25% unyielding and keep the 5% crit. 55% crit

[trail quartz]

hmm. so what i did is, i took hgloryhutner so i dont need the talent for it in the tree. so if you skip glroy hunter skill something else and pick the hot thingy

i play a different weird build

[trim steppe]

at least you got Glorhunter T4, I actually really like GH

[trail quartz]

but still executioners stance

[trim steppe]

GH / Gets hot is my go-to

[trail quartz]

i stil lprefer shattering

[halcyon zephyr]

I don't have shattering, so it's w/e either way. I'm not building another plasma, I already used all the mats I wanted to for this.

[trail quartz]

bosskiller

pure

[jagged stream]

thats a damn fine roll you got

[trim steppe]

That looks awesome tbh

[trail quartz]

thats an damn hot plasma you wielding boy

xD

[trail quartz]

dude thats melting fine

especially for maelstorms

[jagged stream]

i have the same one on my main plasma

and i dont think youd notice not having shattering on it

[trail quartz]

maybe on crushers or mauler headshots

but its 1 shot less

*more

[jagged stream]

not ifyou get a nasty crit

then boop

all dead

and the 5 guys behind him to

[trail quartz]

the thing is on mael everything i hit with shaterring is reduced armor. in mael yo uare always surrounded. thats why i prefer that reliable option over crit chance dmg

[halcyon zephyr]

now to actually build the talents for this bad boy

[trail quartz]

its not bad, i just prefer the reliable thing

[trim steppe]

I think shattering still doesn't add to the shot that applies it, right? Unless they changed it. Usually things either die immediately and you dont apply anything, or they die in the second shot regardless so it doesnt help again.

[jagged stream]

ahh we talkin mael

[wraith locust]

shattering is pretty bad on plasma

[trail quartz]

it does

[jagged stream]

yes the thing that is always on is slightly more pref

[trail quartz]

ah so you mean. the shot apllies it the next shot adds it. im bad in english

[jagged stream]

i do remember shattering being the so so on plas

and pref on Bolter no?

[wraith locust]

its like

not great on bolter anymore either

[trail quartz]

i use bolter for bursting and supressing, plasma for accurate hits

both are amaing but a pain to reload (espacially plasma)

[jagged stream]

whats pref on bolter now pinning and cavalcade?

[trail quartz]

bolter sounds cooler

[hollow ibex]

At least plasma gets a very generous reload cancel

[trail quartz]

bro thats so true : s

[jagged stream]

you can build bolter where the reload isnt so bad

[trail quartz]

plasma is also faster equped as a bolter

[jagged stream]

wayyy faster

if bolter had the same equip and maybe 5 more rounds in teh mag

[trail quartz]

like 2 hours xD

[jagged stream]

i think it would scale better

[trail quartz]

true

[wraith locust]

pinning and srugical or calvacade

[jagged stream]

I still run it cuz i mean its teh Emprahs holy bolter so wtf right?

[trail quartz]

bolter has better burst and no peril, thats the tradeoff

[jagged stream]

now bout no heresy

[halcyon zephyr]

wait am I supposed to only be able to shoot this gun like 3 times before I die? lol

[trail quartz]

nah u did soemthing wrong xD

what killed u?

[serene sage]

Pinning Surgical Shattering

Pick 2, any 2

[halcyon zephyr]

overheating
3x charge shots to 100% it

[serene sage]

Why are you right clicking

[jagged stream]

@serene sage ive got one with pin, shatter and one with pin surg

havent messed with the pin surg one though

[halcyon zephyr]

oh true,

[scarlet vessel]

any consensus on which IAG is better columnus graia agrinipa? i do like the firing speed for all of them

[trail quartz]

you have after 3 charged shots to release someheat cvia ahhhmm.. mouse 4 i guess? if you do regular shots np yo uget into a animation that it gets too hot but its the same peril like the psyker

[serene sage]

Generally Columnus

[trail quartz]

practice for a sec in psykantrium

[halcyon zephyr]

oh THATS what it does

[scarlet vessel]

better DPS on columnus?

[trail quartz]

only heavycharged can kill you if you go over 93%

[serene sage]

Yeah

[jagged stream]

@scarlet vessel I think all are serviceable with Columnus being the best performer

[wraith locust]

never charge shot on plasma

its very rare that its a good idea to do so

[halcyon zephyr]

I'd never take a completely new weapon into a real mission and sidebar in discord lol. Stefani owns my ass

[scarlet vessel]

thanks i see, but yeah all are pretty fun to fire with good enough stats perk, blessing is idk

[trail quartz]

ah makes sense. nah take care my men. thats the tradeoff of a strong weapon but yo ucan hit stuff behind obsticles or cover. but it needs some finesse

[halcyon zephyr]

Just needed to get the feel of it. special action being a venting feature is something I hadn't realized yet.

[trail quartz]

i still fuk it up at the worst times no shame on that

but if you get used to it you get a headshot oneshot machine promised

[umbral scaffold]

hadron didnt BRUTALLY fuck me too badly guys we're winnnin 😃

[exotic drum]

Plasma gun is one of the best guns if only it had a ADS feature, or a better fucking reticle.

[halcyon zephyr]

Grats

[trail quartz]

still i dont want to piss on your aprty, look how much dmg you would do wwith the weapon to carapace. its not much : s
its an amazing weapon but i would put on elte or unyield instead of cara

[umbral scaffold]

I think you might be able to two-shot crushers and maulers without carapace

[scarlet vessel]

100 hours later still farming for power cycler IV ☠️

[halcyon zephyr]

I love not using the ADS.
I can keep my crack-addled-spider-monkey movement from the brauto

[midnight totem]

I really wish people would clear the room before moving to the next

[umbral scaffold]

Or maybe I just stacked too many funny talents

[white minnow]

mk6 is doing a lot to cara

[umbral scaffold]

i can change it out so thanks for the advice

[trail quartz]

i dont even use cara on zealot melee

[scarlet vessel]

the hack is to use custom crosshair on ironsighting with high mobility IAG

[umbral scaffold]

Don't need to clear the room entirely, but if they're leaving 7 gunners shooting the team from behind that gets wacky

Fuck no I'm coming back for 4 poxwalkers

[white minnow]

on an IAG + psword build, I gun down or grenade (shredder) p much everything that's not a crusher so i just slap +cara and +elite onto my psword

[midnight totem]

they left two gunners and a bunch of smaller ones shooting the team from behind

[trail quartz]

as vet why u want cara in melee to be your priority. thats my question sicne thats the elast thing yo uant in you proximity

[midnight totem]

I went down taking down the two gunners, and one of the small ones shot me from the side, the other two already dropped down

[white minnow]

because i don't trust my teammates to handle it?

[trail quartz]

ok

[white minnow]

i can 1-combo crushers so why not just solo crusher patrols

i have VoC and 4 nades to stagger them

[midnight totem]

funnily enough, that same surviving dred shooter was the guy who shot our last person in the back as she tried to pick us up and killed her

[trail quartz]

you dont trust your teammates in a coop game, its your game

[white minnow]

i have had too many games where my teammates just randomly die to melee elite patrols

yes

and I have a very good reason for not trusting them

it being a coop game does not grant a magical barrier to my teammates from randomly dying to melee elite patrols, unfortunately

[trail quartz]

9/10 games all is fine i dont complain. how isaid cara issnt the problem.

[slender turtle]

Should i make a recon lasgun? or should i wait till they buff them

[midnight totem]

wait till buff imho

[white minnow]

i don't complain either since it's fine on my end as well; I just spec into stuff that rounds my build out

you're the one asking the questions and I responded

fuck off if you're going to backpedal

[trail quartz]

yes but promise me dont be a guy that shoot crushers all the time and burn their ammo and we are friends xD
thats what most recon boys do

i think most recon guys play like infernus and crit?

[trim steppe]

Melk finally came through with T4 Dumdum! Pretty good roll too tbh

[trail quartz]

bro the emperor loves you.. wtf..

[torn root]

oh nah

[lucid hinge]

switch the perks and you got a pretty good las pistol wth

[trail quartz]

its rly not bad

[torn root]

so melk be blessing everyone but me?\

[wraith locust]

crit chance isnt bad

[torn root]

das crazy

[trail quartz]

for a 346 weapon thats RLY good

[torn root]

double t4 too im crying

[trail quartz]

the rols are carazy

[bitter turtle]

Check if carapace lets you hit a BP on crushers

[trail quartz]

what perks you would recommend?

[bitter turtle]

I wouldn't swap it if you go from a 3 to a 2 shot

[umbral scaffold]

That's the fun part though

[lucid hinge]

flak and maniac im pretty sure

[trim steppe]

probably maniac and unyeilding/flak. But I haven't run laspistol very much yet

[umbral scaffold]

Dancing with crushers should be in anyone's to do list for the day

[lucid hinge]

it could be diff for the new las pistol but thats the general perks

[wraith locust]

bruh dont put maniac on the las

dont replace crit chance

[fleet garden]

for psword its maniac and carpace

[wraith locust]

its not bad

[fleet garden]

guns its generally maniac and flak unless plasma

[umbral scaffold]

Doesn't the new laspistol also have increased crit chance like the old one?

[trim steppe]

fair enough you're probably right

[trail quartz]

i agree fully

[lucid hinge]

remember you can always change the perks around since both will be able to change

[umbral scaffold]

Tru tru

[trail quartz]

for some reason maniacs (ragers flac and maiac) are msotly my main problem xD

[lucid hinge]

since the perks is the only thing you should change on that las pistol

[trail quartz]

so hate is always for them welcome

[trail quartz]

ya i agree they are rly a literal random godroll lol

[trim steppe]

Man just 30 mins later I get to eat my words AND take my own advice

[stoic oxide]

need some help with this - should I replace both of the perks or 1 of the blessings

kinda lost

[wraith locust]

perks

[midnight mortar]

Perks if you insist on using it.

[trim steppe]

I'd replace both perks, volatile isn't ideal but its fine. Perks are more important than blessings on plasma

[torn root]

finally hit the nice ttk

[dapper delta]

Build? And or blessing?

[torn root]

i think its mostly the tree the gun could honestly have anything now

[trail quartz]

is that an MKV column?

[torn root]

yes

[trail quartz]

i love that thing its so fun and supricingly accurate

its an MK1 in good for me

[torn root]

Crusher ttk nice too

[torn root]

its a laser beam with deadshot lmao, i think this gun is the sole reason im on vet atm

i will note its probably sustained fire killing them so quick, dumdum would make it faster hwn they get in range

[trail quartz]

i play it with the far left side the weapon master and voice of command but i think it also works rly fantastic with yours what i have seen. i love the gun

[rare kraken]

Anyone have a good suggestion for a vet lvling build? I prefer plasma gun. I'm a recovering psyker.

[torn root]

I tried most things, till i settled on just taking as much damage as possible in the tree

[trail quartz]

if you scroll up a bit we psoted some plasmas like 20 or 30 misn ago : 3

for the build itself i cans end mine in here if yo uwant

[torn root]

Superiority Complext, Rending Strikes, Bring it Down, and Onslaught's a lot of damage

[trail quartz]

or this xD

[stoic oxide]

Which one of these should I go for. I can still refine the first pic but it got less base stat than the 2nd one which I already refined

[torn root]

1st one should swap flak for unyielding?

2nd one is better imo

gloryhunter swap and crit chance can be swapped

oh nvm