veteran-class

[tall torrent]

Yea ik

[tall torrent]

Every good zealot goes for crits so

[serene sage]

20% on back stab

[frank ether]

if you want to permastun things while also killing them you take the gapcloser on zealot

[serene sage]

1.5s on crit

[hearty kernel]

yeah these pretty much let you use it constantly

[crisp bronze]

I think moving Demo Team above either Exe Stance or Infiltrate and adding a new grenade regen Talent above the last one makes the most sense here. Give each tree an easy pickup for some way to get nades back and now the Demo Stockpile into VoC pipeline isn't as prevalent.

[serene sage]

yeah im trying to get some sense to the dude who think VoC is broken, somehow

[fossil basalt]

Throne I just wish grenade tinkerer was closer to smokes

[tall torrent]

Pretty much
That said, I wouldn’t mind a VoC cd nerf to 40s, if the other 2 abilities are buffed beforehand to make it more interesting

[hearty kernel]

if you've not got a zealot i suppose it's good but when a zealot whos using the relic is doing his job

it's a tad pointless

[fossil basalt]

30s smokes are buuuuusted

[frank ether]

smokes are the reason I go left or middle path lmao

[tall torrent]

That’s my take on this whole VoC debate

[frank ether]

speed aura isnt that horrible all things considered I don't hate it

[lofty lintel]

I think the most sensible nerf to it without making it ass is the overtoughness lasting less time

[frank ether]

but smokes need work and the opportunity cost for smokes is huge

[hearty kernel]

honestly ranged headshot kills should do what crit chances do for zealots cooldown and reduce it by 1.5s

[frank ether]

you're giving up tinkered frags/kraks

[carmine bronze]

You know what comes after holy fire?

[serene sage]

if we keep talking we will arrive back at patch 13 VoC

[carmine bronze]

Holy smokes xd

[crisp bronze]

I think it could be buffed to 7.5% and the damage aura could be buffed to 10% pretty easily

[serene sage]

balacing is a fucking circle

[fossil basalt]

Yeaaaah I'm just chronically stuck in parties that don't know how to push an objective so it falls to me lol

[frank ether]

that hurts the synergy with on-activation ability modifiers like ftb, marksman, cqkillzone

[fossil basalt]

Smoke+infil means I can do any objective regardless of support

[tall torrent]

Yk what
Have marksman focus keystone do exactly that
“-1s ability CD for every ranged weakspot kill”
Everybody is happy

[hearty kernel]

play in the asian zone, your pings going to be shit but those guys are on crack i swear

[tall torrent]

Yes but let’s be fr you take FTB just because u hate born leader lol

It’s the battle of mid

[serene sage]

the fuck am i gonna do with 200% uptime Exec Stance?

[frank ether]

My build is specifically stacking as much on ability damage steroids as possible

[lofty lintel]

This is madness

[serene sage]

can I play 2 games with that shit

[carmine bronze]

Stance is ok

[fossil basalt]

EQUIP GUN FASTER

[frank ether]

combine that with tinkered frags or kraks

[serene sage]

truly

[hearty kernel]

it'd make it on par with the zealots buff though

[frank ether]

I'd much rather trim the overtoughness to 25 than to nerf the cd

if a nerf were to happen

[tall torrent]

Means you don’t have to take counterfire
Also means you can pop the ability activation dmg buffs more frequently

[fossil basalt]

Drop two frames on the equip lol

[crisp bronze]

What if we get fatshark to buff Marksmens Focus enough that it pretty much allows the og "exe stance bolter vet kills everything" but now you need to aim?

[lofty lintel]

Not even reduce the overtoughness just reduce how long it lasts because its uptime is stupkd

Stupid

[tall torrent]

I would agree with that sentiment if the head hitbox in this game was a bit more generous

[serene sage]

Bolter still kills everything

you just need to aim

[devout atlas]

marksmans focus is honestly fine its just it only works for a very small handful of weapons but the real issue isn't marksman focus itself but how weakpoint damage bonuses scale on the average weapon

[fossil basalt]

Isn't that pmudh left tree but bolter is just kinda off the cart rn?

[tall torrent]

It’s very difficult to reliably hit headshots on normal zoom weapons past 30m

[hearty kernel]

bolter and knife

much fun

crit and smash

[fossil basalt]

Somebody said knife

Wooo

[hearty kernel]

on zealot my bd

[serene sage]

Well Bolter can one body tap a surprising amount of enemies

[fossil basalt]

Booooo

[hearty kernel]

i wouldn't take it for veteran

[serene sage]

Assuming crit from Surgical

[frank ether]

why bother with mf when you can play melee vet

nerf melee vet

I'll play zealot

[tall torrent]

Well I don’t have surgical4 on bolter

[devout atlas]

ngl boltgun is a bit underwhelming

[crisp bronze]

Me having shot a sniper 50m away with the fanning Revolver:
"yee haw"

[serene sage]

Skill issue

[devout atlas]

i love it but mannnn

[lofty lintel]

It is

[fossil basalt]

Boltgun got slapped lol

[hearty kernel]

i wish personally it could automatic in aimed

but eh

[serene sage]

What are you, poor? Don't have platsteel?

Can I relink my Bolter video?

[tall torrent]

Hadron purposefully leaves me with 1-2 missing tier4 blessings on every weapon family

[hearty kernel]

no pissteel, too much crapite

[serene sage]

To show people what the gun can do or is that spamm

[frank ether]

bolter is fine

[tall torrent]

I have been trying to find fucking no respite 4 for helbore family for like 2 months

[devout atlas]

i enjoy boltgun on vet but 😭 it could use a lil buff here and there, make its aim not randomly snap 2 inches left/right right before shooting for a change

yea

boltguns downsides need to be grinded off a bit

like they did with chaxe

[serene sage]

https://youtu.be/LVIlltkFNvM?si=klg3MunbVpXnGyUY

[hearty kernel]

bolt

[frank ether]

Bolter is an A tier weapon

[serene sage]

5 minutes of me killing shit in Auric T5

[muted knot]

I have like 1 or 2 level 4 blessings for every weapon category

[devout atlas]

not saying its bad i wish it didnt have annoying quirks

[muted knot]

Probably not even that

[fossil basalt]

bolt

[serene sage]

No sound though 😔

bolt

[devout atlas]

i use boltgun more on zealot as its pretty decent on a chorus or shroud build

[frank ether]

If it didnt have quirks it would be yet another plasmagun

[jade notch]

But the Bolter's sound design is the best part about using it

[serene sage]

I failed I'm sorry

[hearty kernel]

just wait till we get boltpistols and plasma pistols

[jade notch]

It's fine, I blame Hadron

[serene sage]

Maybe the blood of the heretics is enough

[tall torrent]

Helbore - missing no respite 4
Chainsword - missing rampage 4
Power sword - missing brutal momentum 4

[frank ether]

fatshark should just give a weaker but no downside boltpistol for ppl who want a spam gun

[muted knot]

I don't know how they would fit the plasma pistol tbh

[devout atlas]

i wna do a boss killer build on Vet what should I use that isnt boltgun

[serene sage]

Look at this guy, he's poor

[hearty kernel]

what do you mean?

[tall torrent]

Marksman focus agripinaa shotgun

[muted knot]

Like what is it's niche

[strange sparrow]

Columnus Unironically

[devout atlas]

atp i could just play psyker

[frank ether]

What I love the most is

[devout atlas]

legit?

oh i forgot i had this thing

[lofty lintel]

Plasma focus target lasgun/columnus marksman focus

[tall torrent]

The imperium runs on faith but not faith alone

[hearty kernel]

i dunno; maybe faster firerate- less overheating, higher ammo cap but a somewhat worse damage

and less pen

[crisp bronze]

Boltgun is 100% usable and anyone saying it's dead after nerfs probably has a conflicting playstyle or hasn't made a dedicated build for it.
If you want a weapon I haven't seen anywhere above uprising or malice since the nerfs look at the Shredder Pistol.

[frank ether]

this entire focus mark playstyle synergizes so well with bolter's slow pace and surgical

[tall torrent]

It also runs on murdermoney

[serene sage]

And yet the sight is complete dogshit

[strange sparrow]

look at the boss damage (I didn't even run Focus Fire)

[hearty kernel]

honestly im hoping for more classes

[lofty lintel]

Bolter is fine just overshadowed by plasma gun

[hearty kernel]

which im not sure will happen

[strange sparrow]

Columnus Busted

[devout atlas]

alr i got this thing, what else should i do

[tall torrent]

Still better than helbore sights

[lofty lintel]

Volatile for blaze away

[devout atlas]

little too late XD

[serene sage]

Everything, except the revolver, is overshadowed by the plasma

[lofty lintel]

Oh

[devout atlas]

i guess imma spend a few million bucks on a plasma

[lofty lintel]

Oh shit yeah

My bad

[strange sparrow]

Bolter take too long to take out to use

[hearty kernel]

isn't there a way to get it out quicker

via some tomfoolery

[lofty lintel]

The high dmg compensates

Its balanced

[serene sage]

Instead of Plasma Revolver, compare the Bolt to Shotguns, Mg series, Vraks series and it's downright reasonable.

[frank ether]

They should add a braced boltpistol tbh

[lofty lintel]

And yes the throwing knives

[versed merlin]

exec stance

[versed merlin]

what is tom foolery

[strange sparrow]

15 rounds of death, with long reload speed

[versed merlin]

i've heard that quite a few times already

[devout atlas]

does the plasma gun charge speed bug still exist

or was it fixed

[versed merlin]

and i still have no idea what does that means

[frank ether]

I want like.. regular pistols in this game

not laspistols

[hearty kernel]

it means fool

[frank ether]

not revolvers

magazine fed pistols

[crisp bronze]

I've seen some people claim it's unusable. Not many but occasionally. Meanwhile nobody even acknowledges the Shredder Pistols existence anymore it seems.

[tall torrent]

Apparently it can melt bosses if you’re hitting weakpoints

[polar topaz]

was fixed ☑️

[lofty lintel]

Thats fine

[hearty kernel]

honestly a stubber would be nice; some belt fed stubber like what the gunners have

[serene sage]

Exec Stance, VoC can both cut the animation
Zealot knife throw also cuts the animation
Otherwise you can use the special bash to stop the racking animation, but it saves like a tiny fraction and can't be done while sprinting.

[frank ether]

yeah a lot of ppl want one, myself included

[rough palm]

The space 1911

[devout atlas]

alr lets hope i get a good roll

[hearty kernel]

or whatever that fucking Armoured scion gunner is using

[versed merlin]

i want to dual wield pistols

[lofty lintel]

Holy shit

[hearty kernel]

that Heavy lasgun

[lofty lintel]

Already?

[versed merlin]

and knives

[serene sage]

400 hours in with the Bolt, I still pull it out normally tbh, can't be arsed

[frank ether]

I also think its a big missed opportunity to not have a rotary grenade launcher as a veteran exclusive heavy weapon

[devout atlas]

hadron please swallow a buckshot round

aight fuck it imma waste my plasteel later

the other plasma is good enough ig

[tall torrent]

Gloryhunter is fine

[lofty lintel]

Still got a chance

[serene sage]

It's fine?

[devout atlas]

nahhhh

my old one is better

[crisp bronze]

Give me the "20% legally distinct m1911" Heavy Stub Pistol

[devout atlas]

this is my old one

[serene sage]

Then it's not fine

[devout atlas]

well tbh.

its 1/4

😭

[hearty kernel]

i think i prefer the Ogryn getting the explosives

[devout atlas]

eh fuck ittttt lets see

[lofty lintel]

Thats 3/4

[devout atlas]

is Cara plasma even good anymore

[tall torrent]

Yes

[lofty lintel]

Oh yeah

[frank ether]

ogryn already has grenade gauntlet

[lofty lintel]

Make it orange

[tall torrent]

Take to gold

[lofty lintel]

Im intrigued now

[devout atlas]

sure whatever

[tall torrent]

It’s gonna be good

[hearty kernel]

again i think them having the explosives is fine

[tall torrent]

This is fine

Weakspot to elite
Gloryhunter to gets hot 4

Godroll plasma right there

[devout atlas]

hurrayyyy

[lofty lintel]

Yeah

[muted knot]

It's called exec stance

[tall torrent]

U should be able to one tap both gunners & both flamers on headshots (flamers need at least 1 stack of tag keystone)

[hearty kernel]

thank you; that might be the 5th time someone has said it

[tall torrent]

Use the 15% elite on left tree

[hearty kernel]

i didn't know

[muted knot]

I am so sorry

[hearty kernel]

lol

[muted knot]

Can't keep up with chat

[hearty kernel]

i can tell

i sent that ages ago lol

[devout atlas]

i'll do blaze away cus uh

i dont have gets hot 4

unless i wanna scrap my other one

[lofty lintel]

Sure

[frank ether]

nah just give me this

[muted knot]

Work keeps wanting me to work instead of chilling in discord...

[lofty lintel]

I would slurp gets hot from your old plasma

[crisp bronze]

I just looked at the fraggin time. It's 2am and I'm discussing darktide. Woops. Goodnight chat.

[hearty kernel]

looks cool; but i dunno; if vet was to get a explosive it couldn't outshine the Ogryns stuff

[devout atlas]

alr what should i pair with this

[tall torrent]

I’m wondering what this Thursday’s cosmetic rotation will bring

[muted knot]

Chainsword imo

[devout atlas]

hhhhhhhhh sureeeeeee

[lofty lintel]

Whatever goes

[hearty kernel]

Knife

[lofty lintel]

I use standard shovel

[tall torrent]

Rashad axe

[muted knot]

Or powersword if you lame

[hearty kernel]

use the sapper shovel

that shits powerful

[frank ether]

Does vet having grenades take away from ogryn grenades?

[serene sage]

I'm confused but I'll save you

[rough palm]

Based

[serene sage]

If Bolter buffs don't come through

[devout atlas]

i'll use my godspade i guess. wait why does this thing have maniac on it

ohh yeah its for one tapping ragers

[lofty lintel]

That works

Most definitely

[hearty kernel]

no no; but i feel like; you know the Ogryn has that exlusive hand-GL i feel like giving vet would nulify picking ogryn for that exclusive; so inturn making a veteran GL slightly worse than the Ogryns would be best for both worlds

[lofty lintel]

Is that an mk3?

[tall torrent]

You may not believe this but veteran probably has the best AoE effectiveness in the game just from double tinkered frags

[hearty kernel]

doesn't need to be shit

[jade notch]

Dreg Ragers, Muties, Trappers, Flamers. A lot of Maniacs that you want to kill ASAP

[serene sage]

If the spade was god why would there be a second one?

[devout atlas]

well my godspade 1 is the OG shovel

[hearty kernel]

this kinda just reinforces my point then lol

[slender turtle]

The onlything i would want on the bolter is a faster swap speed. Maybe reload speed

[frank ether]

well the ogryn one also doubles as a melee, its also on a class with like.. 500+ something HP

[serene sage]

Make a third one for the Holy Trinity

[devout atlas]

I have actually LOL

[serene sage]

[devout atlas]

Not sure what to do with it though

[frank ether]

though yes I get what you're saying

[hearty kernel]

yeah that 500+ is cause.. you know it's a fucking Ogryn, in addtion yes it has good melee's but like you can't force it to be a melee focus thing

like taking away Veterans guns

[tall torrent]

One can dream

[serene sage]

It's really easy, it tosses two when you don't need it to

[bitter turtle]

an effect like that really shouldnt be rng in general

maybe something like

your last nade in your pack throws two

[serene sage]

Grenade can now crit

[bitter turtle]

so you can play around it

[hearty kernel]

there is no offence

alot in the game already to deal with hordes

[frank ether]

easy solution

[lofty lintel]

I only use krak if the build lacks dmg against armoe

[frank ether]

make twinned guaranteed proc every 60 seconds

[lofty lintel]

Which is almost never

[frank ether]

too strong? make it every 120 seconds

[bitter turtle]

yeahg

that's what i mean

demo team rng is fine

but twinned is a bad one

[frank ether]

you don't have to design it around RNG

[bitter turtle]

should be something you can play around

[frank ether]

Idk why twinned is rng

that just doesnt work for grenades

[tall torrent]

There’s a very big difference in using frags vs using kraks

With frags you literally throw them out like dollar store candies

With kraks you kinda have to save up for crushers, bulwarks and monsters

[bitter turtle]

idk i like the idea of "your last grenade wiil throw two instead"

[serene sage]

It do be better

[bitter turtle]

it makes you play around throwing lots of nades

[hearty kernel]

my point was; i dont pick shredder to deal with hordes when there is already tons of other stuff to deal with hordes currently; thus i always pick krak as a last fuck you basically

[strange sparrow]

Shredders are great for Trash but then again, why

[devout atlas]

i dont have a single vet build that doesnt use shredders they're just too universal

[frank ether]

problem with that is its abusable with vet grenade regen

[bitter turtle]

that's the whole point

[devout atlas]

nahhh wrong way to use em mate

[bitter turtle]

of the way i made it

:^)

[frank ether]

thats just broken ^^

[bitter turtle]

idk is that too op

lul

[strange sparrow]

I just get Kraks because I want something dead ald

[devout atlas]

they're clutch CC plus deletes ragers/maulers

[muted knot]

Shredders

[frank ether]

there is no need to reinvent the wheel when the whole effect can be on a simple cooldown

[strange sparrow]

I mean I got Columnus to kill Ragers/Maulers

[tall torrent]

Also uh
I checked nade dmg with & without tinkerer

Tinkerer’s dmg boost doesn’t give consistent breakpoints in my tests, and it’s more so for the radius

[frank ether]

or be reworked into ''you have %20 chance to not consume a grenade''

[strange sparrow]

and I ran DC 4

[hearty kernel]

give veteran a throwing axe like blades of faith

[strange sparrow]

so Rager/Mauler just ain't that much of a problem

[hearty kernel]

but the axes deal fire damage

[bitter turtle]

there are situations where you dont have enough bullets in the clip to handle the entire horde

i mean honestly

just look at twins hard

2x nade solves problems

way faster

than shooting

a lot of the time

[muted knot]

I like krak on my IAG builds

[serene sage]

Kraks can only wish they have the girth as big as shredders

[devout atlas]

you have infinite shredders with demo team and 1 frag a min

[strange sparrow]

Twins Hard are different imo, It's really pushing the limit

[devout atlas]

toss those fuckers every 20 seconds atp

yeehaw

[hearty kernel]

buff the auto pistol as well

[frank ether]

thats probably because everything in that fight is roided up and bleed kinda just applies a flat damage dot

[lofty lintel]

I use krak on melee builds

[devout atlas]

autopistol is actually decent on zealot

thats abt it tho

[bitter turtle]

my point being there are plenty of situations where the number of enemies > bullets in your clip

[strange sparrow]

Unironically, it's easier to win on Auric Mael than Twins

[lofty lintel]

Autopistol is a tickle gun

[bitter turtle]

that's when nades shine

[serene sage]

Yeah idk either, I just know 2 will kill all gunners and 3 will kill everything short of crushers

[bitter turtle]

i only take krak for anti-bulwark and monstro

[muted knot]

Buff revolver some more, let's see how high that gun can really go

[bitter turtle]

on build sthat simply arent very good at them

[tall torrent]

2 actually does not kill all gunners

[bitter turtle]

see: shovel

[devout atlas]

Chastise makes it go crazy. Momentum too. Zealot uses it better 😭

[tall torrent]

Remember the vid I sent

[hearty kernel]

no mine wasn't a Joke lol; i haven't seen anyone use the auto pistol i want it to be viable

[frank ether]

yea fuck bulwark

[serene sage]

Yeah but like mine always do

[frank ether]

I hate bulwark

I hate them all

[lofty lintel]

Tbf chastise makes everything go crazy

[hearty kernel]

it's aiming is pretty badass

[serene sage]

Maybe psykhanium fuckery?

[lofty lintel]

But yeah

[muted knot]

I literally forgot that gun existed for a few months

[bitter turtle]

ye

[frank ether]

sometimes I take kraks just to murk bulwark

[serene sage]

I know there are things different in game and in grinder

[bitter turtle]

bulwarks are enough of an annoyance that krak has a place

[hearty kernel]

exactly

[bitter turtle]

its just more niche compared to shredder

[tall torrent]

Idk, I’ve dropped tinkerer on most of my builds

[flint garden]

when they gunna fix bulwark shield hitboxes

[muted knot]

Easy buff for autopistol, give it RIP ammo and default bleed on hit

[serene sage]

Well I can't live without the girthiest of nades

[bitter turtle]

bulwarks hitboxes are a feature :^)

[tall torrent]

Unless I’m going for 10% melee dmg, tinkerer seems too big an investment

[hearty kernel]

shoot to the side; some how hit a front-facing shield

[serene sage]

So it stays for me

[tall torrent]

And the only builds I go for 10% melee are with Rashad axe where I will also take agile engagement cuz I pair with HB

[hearty kernel]

speaking of

time to make a Ogryn

and try that out

[muted knot]

Yeeeees

[vivid parrot]

can anyone explain to me what focus target does ? I dont know whats meant with tagged enemy

[muted knot]

Ogryn best

[lofty lintel]

Been Missing out

[muted knot]

[lofty lintel]

Ogryn is most fun

[strange sparrow]

Just tag

[bitter turtle]

you know the button that highlights enemies in red

[serene sage]

Ogryn blocks my shots

[strange sparrow]

basically the ping

[bitter turtle]

that's what "tag" refers to

[serene sage]

I hate em

[vivid parrot]

middle mousebutton

[strange sparrow]

I pray for friendly fire so I can backshot all the ogryn

[lofty lintel]

Yes

[muted knot]

I repeat myself: ogryn best

[hearty kernel]

def what ima do

[tall torrent]

When you ping an enemy, it shows them in a gold outline and makes them take extra dmg

[serene sage]

Hate

[vivid parrot]

okay thanks guys :3

[lofty lintel]

If i want to friendly fire i hop on deep rock galactic and c4 the scout

[muted knot]

Based

[lofty lintel]

Then i hop back on darktide.

[serene sage]

Ain't no way

[muted knot]

Ahahahaah

Love how you dodge the moderator by making a screenshot and sending that instead

[lofty lintel]

Stanczyk

I love that painting

[serene sage]

Oh the Abominable Intelligence?

[muted knot]

It's why ogryn so tough, all the boolets make muscle hard

[serene sage]

That's heretical

[tall torrent]

Bolter cleaves through them no?

[bitter turtle]

some of the censors make no sense

[serene sage]

Not when I'm using Agri shotgun

[bitter turtle]

kink is ok but if you add a y to the end its not

[serene sage]

Actually why does shotgun have 1 cleave

[tall torrent]

Doesn’t the slug also cleave through them?

[serene sage]

And revolver like 100

[tall torrent]

Helbore cleaves through them as well I’m pretty sure?

[serene sage]

Slug does but not normal shots

[bitter turtle]

because revolvers are like katanas

[tall torrent]

Oh lol

[bitter turtle]

simply the best weapon mankind has ever known in their category

[serene sage]

😔

[muted knot]

Cause it's a shotgun

[lofty lintel]

Revolvers are the ultimate destroyer of everything everywhere all at once

[muted knot]

Buckshot ain't exactly what is known as a good penetrator

[strange sparrow]

Yes

[serene sage]

Why is it called a shotgun, that's like calling food atefood or chair satchair

[strange sparrow]

Helbore goes through Ogryn

[serene sage]

Like it's a gun, of course it shoots

[muted knot]

I see the bait and I will not engage

[lofty lintel]

Shellgun

[muted knot]

[bitter turtle]

something something masterwork handgun
something something bisect a knight wearing full plate

[idle carbon]

unless you've blessed your buckshot with Manstopper, in which case it will cleave through an entire army lmao

[serene sage]

That's not what she said.

[tall torrent]

Or kantrael fire shots infinite cleave

[strange sparrow]

Ever hear of the Kung Fu of the West?

[lofty lintel]

Gun that shoots shells with pellets inside instead of regular bullets-gun

[rare tartan]

guys "Sprint Efficiency " it's how faster you run , or less stamina consumed ?

[tall torrent]

Kantrael shotgun is so funny when holding choke points

[lofty lintel]

Never

[serene sage]

We have guns that shoot bullets, but we have never had bullet that shoots guns

[lofty lintel]

I love kantrael shotgun with flechette

Super fun

[strange sparrow]

Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USqqWelU208

[tall torrent]

Mine has 10% reload speed, 25% flak, scattershot 4 and flechette

[strange sparrow]

pretty chill

[muted knot]

Seems like you haven't played enter the gungeon

[lofty lintel]

[serene sage]

I beat Lich

But I also like to meme

So I'll pretend I've never heard of it

[tall torrent]

[muted knot]

Haha

[lofty lintel]

[muted knot]

Can't say I've ever done lich tbh

[tall torrent]

One of the most fun guns I’ve tried

[serene sage]

I've done advanced dragun too

[torn root]

LMAO

[muted knot]

Too much bullet hell for my bone ead implant

[tall torrent]

Scattershot + flechette kantrael shotgun is just so silly

[lofty lintel]

My solution to bulwarks

[tall torrent]

Hold a choke point, spam fire shots, watch everything that’s not a crusher die to DoT

[serene sage]

Isn't law better with that?

[lofty lintel]

No

Kantrael shotgun is the bane of bulwarks and ragers

[serene sage]

I should make a Shotgun montage

[tall torrent]

Kantrael shotgun can wipe a very silly amount of melee elites

[serene sage]

But half of it is me trying to circumvent the Ogryn in front

[tall torrent]

With not that many shots

[serene sage]

[lofty lintel]

Everyone

Except carapace but thats fine because i just throw a krak at the crushers head

[tall torrent]

Kantrael shotgun is essentially “what if I wanted to horde clear with my plasma gun” in my experience

[lofty lintel]

Theres more than 1? Power sword

Kantrael shotgun imo is one of the best guns you can bring to compliment a melee build

[rare tartan]

is there a build for Plasma gun ?

[tall torrent]

I run it with mk12 chainaxe, slaughterer 4 + headtaker 4

[lofty lintel]

Yes all middle tree except for tge essentials

The*

[tall torrent]

U can try this

[lofty lintel]

Makes sense

Kant covers the chaxe12 lack of horde clear

[rare tartan]

ty

[devout atlas]

imma do this but with long shit

shot

[lofty lintel]

Yeah

[tall torrent]

U don’t need longshot on plasma

[lofty lintel]

Thats exactly what i run

[tall torrent]

The only falloff it has is for crushers

[devout atlas]

ouuuuuuuuu

[tall torrent]

My funny kantrael shotgun + mk12 chainaxe build

[devout atlas]

then grenade tinkerrer

[bitter turtle]

you can also do a right tree build with plasma

[devout atlas]

because im funny like that

[bitter turtle]

whoops misquote

[lofty lintel]

[devout atlas]

based and shrigma pilled

[tall torrent]

O4B + burn + flechette DoT

One of the funniest things in this game

[devout atlas]

okay imma make an agri shotty build too

[tall torrent]

Infinite toughness gaming

[devout atlas]

i s2g i hpe i didnt scrap it

i think i did

LOL

[lofty lintel]

Agri is

The worst out of the 3

[devout atlas]

someone said u can make a funny boss killing build with it

[tall torrent]

Agripinaa shotgun is the best anti elite/special one

[devout atlas]

so we're making a funny boss killing build

[tall torrent]

And has best weakpoint multi I think?

[lofty lintel]

Agri is a revolver with extra steñs

Steps

[tall torrent]

That one is a pure meme build

[devout atlas]

oh okay

im not wasting plast on pure meme

[tall torrent]

Takes exe stance and marksman focus

For 5 seconds u can one mag a BoN

[lofty lintel]

If youre gonna use a shotgun use kantrael or lawbringer

[devout atlas]

yea ik nerdo

smelly nerd

poopy farter

[jade notch]

Agripinaa Shotgun's all about the Special slug round.

Which can knock Bulwark shields aside and knock Crushers down to the ground, I've noticed.

[strange sparrow]

I hate Exec Stances I hate Exec Stances I hate Exec Stances

[lofty lintel]

Kantrael shotgun can straight up kill them

[tall torrent]

Agripinaa slugs can knock bulwark and one tap headshot it

[devout atlas]

exec stance agri iag funny

thats like

the only thing i like exec on

[forest scaffold]

Revolver, Plasma gun, everything else way down in the basement

[lofty lintel]

Emphasis on one of

[strange sparrow]

I do Columnus IAG only

[forest scaffold]

I like using the graia brauto

I just wish it did more damage

[lofty lintel]

I didnt say the best exactly because those weapons exist

[forest scaffold]

the ammo buffs helped

[lofty lintel]

Brautos are awesome

[strange sparrow]

Exec Stances just make me question myself sometime, but it's funny on Ventilation Purge

[forest scaffold]

but the damage, paired with that accuracy, still hurts

[lofty lintel]

I have a lot of love for them

[forest scaffold]

I mean, I'm specifically calling out the graia as being subpar

its not far off from great

[lofty lintel]

I use them on zealot the most

I mean graia is fine

[forest scaffold]

but its just mediocre right now

[lofty lintel]

Agri is just too good

[devout atlas]

i pref agri iag on vet, barely any DPS difference, better long range performance, built in rend, less drain on deadeye. columnussy is better on gunsyker imho

[forest scaffold]

I just want fatshark to buff the braced accuracy.

[strange sparrow]

Deadeye

[tall torrent]

Braced autoguns are kind of awkward in vet’s tree? Like there isn’t a super intuitive way to build them

[forest scaffold]

Right now it functions like the krourk stubber.

[strange sparrow]

[forest scaffold]

You fire ~5 shots and you're at full spread

[lofty lintel]

Im falling behind the state of darktide though ive been playing other games

[forest scaffold]

but it has the firerate of the achlys

[strange sparrow]

Just take Exec Stances, it work great with them

[forest scaffold]

weapon specialist, unironically.

[strange sparrow]

Personal opinion : The only way to make Braced Autogun good

[forest scaffold]

Is basically built from the ground up for them.

And shotguns.

[lofty lintel]

Wep specialist yeah

[tall torrent]

If I take that, pathing through to onslaught would be kind of awkward, no?

[devout atlas]

make their brace actually give better accuracy like Ogryn weapons /thread

simple

[forest scaffold]

And revolver/plasma(If only these two weren't so dumbly overtuned)

Well

I'm still on the fence with plasma gun

its osbps are stupidly tight

and reliant on critical hits

[lofty lintel]

Wep specialist revolver is like bread and butter

[strange sparrow]

It is gonna be kinda awkward

[lofty lintel]

Par excellence

[forest scaffold]

revolver needs like

all of its critical hit damage taken away

and given another 20 rounds in reserve

[tall torrent]

Plasma is very strong
But plasma needs a lot of out-of-match building to make it that strong

[strange sparrow]

The thing with braced autogun is you need exec to reduce the spread

[tall torrent]

Revolver is much simpler
Take carapace
Take hand cannon
Take weapon specialist
You’re done

[lofty lintel]

I mean i like the revolver i dont want it to take a big hit but it needs one

[forest scaffold]

uh

sorta kinda

agrip doesn't have much spread to speak of

you can burst fire out to ~40 meters with reliability

[lofty lintel]

Revolver is take hand cannon the rest are cherries on top

[forest scaffold]

its the other two that get painful

[lofty lintel]

Also yeah i hipfire the agri brauto and still hit everything

[strange sparrow]

I dont play a lot of Braced Autogun but Weakspot hit with them without Exec is pain

my bullet is kinda everywhere

[forest scaffold]

cool thing that the agrip is built around torso bps

though, in its case, its more about total ammo per kill

than it is specific breakpoints

due to the whole "full auto" thing

if you can stay at or under 6 ammo per kill, its ammo efficient with survivalist

and really comes into its own

otherwise its just good

[devout atlas]

wat do i want on da Ia lasgun, opening salvo and deadly accurate?

[forest scaffold]

both

either or is totally fair

[lofty lintel]

Yeah

[forest scaffold]

and viable choices

[lofty lintel]

Headhunter goes tol

Too

[devout atlas]

Headhunter is for Chumps and Losers joking

[lofty lintel]

But deadly accurate is a must

[jade notch]

Headhunter and Deadly Accurate if you can reliably hit headshots/weakspot hits

[forest scaffold]

Headhunter, Ghost, Opening Salvo, Deadly Accurate are all good ILG blessings IMO

[strange sparrow]

Exec Stance refresh doesn't prompt Ability Modifier right

[lofty lintel]

I agree

[devout atlas]

is new laspistol decent for ammo eff

[forest scaffold]

No

you need to press F for that

With Exe Stance ticking down during ult now though

its not that hard

pair that with -6s off cooldown with tactical awareness

[jade notch]

There's also Tactical Awareness, yes

[forest scaffold]

and you can keep Exe up forever

[strange sparrow]

Yeah but I really want that 20% Weakspot power

[forest scaffold]

and press F as many times as you want for ability red nodes

[devout atlas]

cause new laspistol hits 2 enemies right

[strange sparrow]

Just great

[devout atlas]

with its cleave

[forest scaffold]

You can reactivate exe stance

even if its currently active

and it'll give you the red node powerups again

So long as you're on top of the yellow highlights and specials

[devout atlas]

wait is new laspistol faster than MG12 or nah

[strange sparrow]

Also, do you know how this work

[devout atlas]

cus if nah then idgaf

[tall torrent]

It’s also atrociously difficult for breakpoint building so good luck lol

[forest scaffold]

you can basically have infinite Exe Stance with infinite red node buffs

[forest scaffold]

preeeeeeeeeeeety sure its coherency

[strange sparrow]

I can get Exec Stances running 90% of the time

[devout atlas]

dang rip .

[strange sparrow]

Depend on the modifier of the mission

but generally Auric Mael is generous

[tall torrent]

Are we absolutely positive “+toughness replenishment” is just coherency regen?

[forest scaffold]

that's how it works on ogryn

[devout atlas]

see I am weird and my fav build is an infinite ammo MG4 lasgun 💀 but I am considering heavy laspis for its cleave as it might actually be better when spamming at hordes

[forest scaffold]

I imagine its the same everywhere else

[devout atlas]

probably wont be as infinite ammo though

[tall torrent]

Lynchpin? That one specifically says increased replenishment in coherency

[devout atlas]

since MG4 has silly amounts of bullets

[tall torrent]

But these don’t specify coherency

[forest scaffold]

Feel No Pain and its aura too

[strange sparrow]

So it's kinda useless to take this keystone I suppose

[forest scaffold]

+20% toughness replenishment for you and allies

and feel no pain is uh

I'd have to check

game not open though so meh

[jade notch]

Yeah, you have better sources of Toughness Regen than Tunnel Vision

You want either the "+10% Rending at 10+ MF Stacks" or "Have up to 15 MF Stacks" max

For Marksman Focus subnodes

[strange sparrow]

Vet without VoC just feel fuckin bad with Toughness Regen

[bitter turtle]

if its solely toughness regen in coherency as I thought, then ya

its useless

[strange sparrow]

I guess just dont get hit is an option

[bitter turtle]

just wasnt sure if the wording meant it was something else

thanks fatshark

[tall torrent]

Can someone test if it’s only coherency regen

[bitter turtle]

ill try it

sec

[devout atlas]

mehhhh

[bitter turtle]

or rather

all i can test

[devout atlas]

both MG12 and heavy laspistol shoot so slowly

[bitter turtle]

is if it affects my toughness gain from ET/CK

but ill see

[tall torrent]

Yea just don’t bring any +toughness stuff

[devout atlas]

by the time I can get 2 shots off with either of them I can get 4 off with MG4 i guess im sticking to this pizza junk

[tall torrent]

Your base is 100

CK is +30% (10% instant, 20% over 10s)

[devout atlas]

WAIT WHAT MG4 has cleave??

since when did non heavy lasguns have cleave

[tall torrent]

If full 10 stacks of tunnel vision works like +25% to all toughness you gain

You should be getting 37.5 toughness out of 100

[bitter turtle]

i cant avoid 15 toughness on the tree

but

[tall torrent]

In that case you should regain total 43 toughness from one CK proc

[bitter turtle]

i mean

why dont i just test

[tall torrent]

With full 10 stacks of tunnel vision (if it acted as multiplier to all toughness u gain)

[bitter turtle]

if taking it or dropping it

changes the nubmers ata ll

then i dont have to do math

:^)

[tall torrent]

Could test ET, prob easier

If it’s working as multiplier x1.25, then ET should give 18.75 (maybe game rounds to 19?)

[bitter turtle]

what do you know

it actually does something

!!!

[tall torrent]

It works as x1.25 multiplier to all toughness gains?

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/7ce015e038dcf77333055ada46fe66c9.jpg

this is with ET

left is none

right is with tunnel vision

no other changes to tree and gear

[tall torrent]

What’s your total toughness value

[devout atlas]

time to do funny agripinaa iag time

[bitter turtle]

115

[tall torrent]

You started testing at 3 toughness I’d assume?

Not 0 toughness?

[bitter turtle]

no

i started at 0

idk

do you want me to take a video

it will just be very slow

[tall torrent]

It’s fine

Seems like

Tunnel vision is a flat toughness regain multiplier

[bitter turtle]

still

im inclined to believe it works

15% of 115 is 17~ no?

im betting its just rounding up idk

and 25% of that would push it to what

21?

a little over

so that matches 18 and 22

[tall torrent]

So it buffs CK, ET and O4B

[tall torrent]

Yea

[bitter turtle]

good news

its not shit

[tall torrent]

It’s in fact pretty good?

[bitter turtle]

ya

[jade notch]

Pair it up with the Columnus IAG and magdump into a Poxhorde at head level with Exhil Takedown for emergency Toughness regen, I suppose.

[tall torrent]

I will be taking this laspistol + power sword build for a spin then

[bitter turtle]

pretty good with ET yeah

you can get a lot of toughness back just knocking out a few rando poxes in the head

[strange sparrow]

I trust the internet so imma spend one talent point on it forever

[cedar pecan]

How do you do this penance as a vet?

[bitter turtle]

hold block

take 400 damage

ez

jk

[versed merlin]

plant your shield and taunt enemies to atk you

[junior needle]

Late reply because I sleeped but savage sweep is redundant if you have wrath and you definitely want wrath if you're taking rampage.

[cedar pecan]

I'm a vet, i have no shield

[bitter turtle]

you have your melee weapon block

i mean idk i dont do penances

but

in theory

maybe

block damage

then restore stamina

then block more things

duck and dive might help

[versed merlin]

yeah prob get in the middle of a crowded horde, block and try dodging a few times to recover stam with duck n dive

but you'll prob die if you drop your block and the horde is really crowded tho

[paper brook]

Ok so the best pair would be Rampage and Wrath?

[terse idol]

That's a penance for vet?

[versed merlin]

no

[terse idol]

Don't do it on vet

[versed merlin]

omg

i need that emoji

[junior needle]

I'd say so for clear, yes. Unless you're playing zealot, but you're in the vet channel.

[cedar pecan]

are defensive penances cross-character?

[versed merlin]

they are

[paper brook]

Yes I am a vet

[versed merlin]

all penances are account wide

[junior needle]

It does not last I checked

[cedar pecan]

oh

[terse idol]

Some penance are class specific

[cedar pecan]

then all I have to do is make an ogryn then

[versed merlin]

ye

[paper brook]

And this would be for the XIIG chain sword right?

[versed merlin]

the only class specific penances are under class and redacted, but the rest is all shared

[cedar pecan]

I see

[paper brook]

Since that one relies on light attacks more

[cedar pecan]

it's a bit confusing since there is also a category called "account"

[terse idol]

That block one I don't even think is possible unless you run like

[versed merlin]

i think that is a summary of some sorts

[terse idol]

All block efficiency

[bitter turtle]

maybe

maxed block efficiency

[terse idol]

And stamina

[bitter turtle]

have ghost or whatever active

[terse idol]

And stamina regen

[versed merlin]

wait there is already a summary

[bitter turtle]

have duck and dive

[junior needle]

Mhm, it clears with the light chain which can't reliably proc rampage in hordes due to the presence of bruisers, which have higher hit mass. You need extra cleave for it, but you don't want only cleave in your blessings.

[bitter turtle]

for infinite stamina

[versed merlin]

nvm then

[bitter turtle]

then block everything

[versed merlin]

by the time i got this, i had only vet, so it is probably possible to get it as vet

[cedar pecan]

I only want it so I can get this

[versed merlin]

yeah i remember the grind. that one pairs really well with vet haha

that untouchable was the hardest for me tho

[cedar pecan]

I just got that yesterday on Malice

[versed merlin]

complete a mission without taking any health damage is like on overwatch but you also have to watch out for barrels and stuff

[cedar pecan]

funny enough I got help for getting on overwatch but just randomly completed untouchable without any setup

[versed merlin]

lol nice one

[cedar pecan]

you could do untouchable on sedition though, so if you really want it it shouldn't be too bad

[versed merlin]

oh wait really?

fml i did it on t3

[cedar pecan]

there is no difficulty requirement as far as I can see

on overwatch was tier 3 min

[versed merlin]

i prob mixed both and deduced untouchable was t3 too

[cedar pecan]

yeah nah

I did it on malice because sedition rewards suck

and it was still doable with the right team

[versed merlin]

oh i did all mine with pugs

was a bit rough since t3 is usually the middle ground between new players and bad players so there was always one guy rushing ahead and one or other way at the back

[cedar pecan]

I mostly see lvl 30s on malice

I used it to grind the mission count penance

didn't feel like doing 50 damnation runs

[versed merlin]

ah you get used to the difficulty once you spend enough time in the game

i only spam aurics now because anything below that isnt as fun anymore

but i used to spam t3 to t4 when i got my vet to 30

t5 would always feel like a 50/50

either i win or lose

[wanton dawn]

"Middleground between new and bad" is a great quote

[versed merlin]

cant blame someone new for being bad

[strange sparrow]

BCR maybe

[wanton dawn]

"You're bad but that is fine cuz you're new" "i have 300h"

[strange sparrow]

Melee fight in this game isn't really hard to learn tbh

VT2 melee fight is worse imo

[idle carbon]

can I make this emperor's gift work as vet

[muted knot]

Vt2 melee has more in depth stuff imo

[strange sparrow]

It force you to use more Block + Push, more Stamina awareness

[muted knot]

Yeah blocking really ain't that important in darktide

Pushing still is a essential skill tho

[strange sparrow]

Also Optimal Moveset are really really important in VT2

Darktide moveset for me right now is S+Spacebar+MB4 (Slides) -> Tab into Columnus and blast head

[vernal harbor]

i mean it do bleed

[strange sparrow]

Do you have Bleed Calculator?

[rare tartan]

hey guys what you think ?

[strange sparrow]

Base Stats is pretty bad, you should wait a bit

Not sure about GloryHunter Blessings

[vernal harbor]

i just go off the number ticks

no add ons in my game atm

[rare tartan]

i dont have anything else , it's my best weapon in inventory lol

[bitter turtle]

its usable enough

all you do is spam left click on plasma anyway

if i did twins hm with this piece of garbage you'll be fine for now

https://i.gyazo.com/7539f661c5aadc4d5966e62e42bc3f66.png

[rare tartan]

i still can reroll perks

[strange sparrow]

Yea thats why I said wait a bit because you get better weapon stats later on

nonetheless, it's an ok weapon

[gaunt hinge]

having a vet with no ammo aura still eat up all the ammo

feels like choking

[rare tartan]

its fine , i dont mind grind some resources later on , everything for science 😛

[junior needle]

Twins hard mode is more about comp and team cohesion than gear quality

[strange grove]

lol cant find a game on us east

[stable oak]

hey sweats

tell me

what are bis blessings for accatran (recon)

and is it Any Good

[jolly hemlock]

which accatran lol

[stable oak]

viia...?

i dunno if there's a sizeable enough difference

[jolly hemlock]

i run this on auric sometimes

some people say its trash or low tier but it melts monstrosities and is decent for any armor type and against shooters

[stable oak]

i have a headhunter sitting in store

[jolly hemlock]

important is

to have onslaught

otherwise its trash

and i woulndt run it without headhunter + infernus

the burn is very strong

[versed merlin]

lmao look what i just got as gift of the emperor

aint no way

[rare tartan]

unlucky on base stats :>

[versed merlin]

funny thing is i already have a pc4 psword

[cedar pecan]

Update on this: I randomly got it while being stuck in a horde on high intensity damnation

[strange grove]

psure you can get that on any class

I did with shield ogyrn

[vivid bolt]

Shield Ogryn or psyker would be the easiest

I’m pretty sure blocking bosses is an super easy way too

[dusty sluice]

Can the shovels one hit crushers?

[lunar sierra]

Shield ogryn + auric demon )

[vivid bolt]

I think?

[dusty sluice]

Any clue what blessings/rolls are needed?

[crude sparrow]

this worth it?

[vivid bolt]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh

Lemme check

Tbh idk but I’d always take +damage and + power

Id ask uh josho

[dusty sluice]

Fair lmao

[uncut wyvern]

would?

[strange grove]

I thought mk1 was kinda meh? MK2 has the best melee attack, and MK3 really puts out the damage to crushers

[uncut wyvern]

ikr, but 4x80% is tempting

charge rate is not the worst dump stat (?)

[muted knot]

MK3 is super janky, but mk1 and 2 are both very solid

[muted knot]

Seems okay but I think ammo is the best dumpstat

Damage, stopping power, charge rate imo

On what ?

Charge rate changing damage has allegedly been fixed

Oh yeah that's great

Like pretty much godroll

How much ammo is that per mag ?

[muted knot]

Pog

Yeah no thats a real good plasmagun

I'd get rid of shattering impact for blaze away

Ye

Fiar

*fair

But this will work well as is

Not optimal

But it fucks

[untold flame]

Plasma doesnt need to be optimised to be boosted

Just run what you brung

[muted knot]

There's a few breakpoints for onehits you will miss but that's not really too important

[swift narwhal]

Is it Just me or does the non left keystone ranged Work better than with it

Have gone Middle keystone and i Perform better Overall with it ( tho might be skill issue )

[junior needle]

Left keystone is finesse damage, which is substantially inferior to regular damage

Middle provides regular damage

[mortal shore]

For my most gun-intensive setup I don't use any of the keystones.

[untold mulch]

Same

[slate sleet]

if you dont go mark target and the 3 attachments for it you are missing out

32% increased damage against your marked target + 12% pretty much forever as long as you keep marking stuff and killing it

[barren cave]

mark target is the only keystone I like on vet, but I still just go non keystone

with voice of command

[mortal shore]

I didn't used to like any of them but I am slowly being corrupted by Weapon Specialist.

[barren cave]

I dunno, as much as I like focus target and its modifiers, I just prefer spending 4 points in other places

[muted knot]

Weapon specialist is super good yeah

[dusty sluice]

If this doesn't get bricked how is it?

[barren cave]

plus, I cant get the damned 90% accu no ammo penance done for the life of me, and ive just so gotten used to using the build I made for it I dont switch off, even though I dont really enjoy it that much lmao

[muted knot]

You using the revolver?

[barren cave]

yeah

[muted knot]

Huh

[barren cave]

with no ammo

[muted knot]

What difficulty?

[mortal shore]

Homesauce just grab a revolver, empty it at the start of the mission and the swing at anything that moves for the rest of it.

's how I did it.

[barren cave]

heresy is the one for it

[muted knot]

Cause it really is just this

[barren cave]

but I play damned mostly, where I feel pain since Im always trying to the penance done

[muted knot]

I did mine in damnation cause why not

I even picked up ammo in the run cause i felt comfortable to hit my shots

[barren cave]

eh, sometimes I hit bulwark shield too many times or friendly fire my ogryn, which I dunno if they count but those probably reduce my accu

[muted knot]

Just really focus on your gun usage

Take a second to make sure it hits home

[midnight mortar]

Those count against you.

[barren cave]

I do wish they had a tracker showing you how close you got on the penance, they have those for a lot of penances

[barren cave]

yeah makes sense

[midnight mortar]

I got that penance by running that restart the forge mission, getting to the end with the extraction elevator and the long hallway, and shooting poxwalkers until empty.

[barren cave]

I just empty it into monstrosities usually, but its really a lack of trigger discipline where I hit a shield or something

[midnight mortar]

That's a good mission for it since the final sequence before the elevator is just poxwalkers.

I remember back then it was 100% accuracy required.

So I had to learn trigger discipline.

[barren cave]

On the bright side, I finished all the ogryn penances without intending to, like all of them, which lets me really have a lot of fun on the big guy with builds

even the private game one happened by mistake, someone fed me a concentration stim at the right time

[muted knot]

How the hell you just naturally run no blitz perks and destroy eyes ?

[barren cave]

when I first started

[muted knot]

[barren cave]

before I had the points to unlock more nades

so I just flung a box into the eye because noob with no ammo

why I didnt just melee the damn thing, I dunno, but Im glad i didnt

the psyker and zealot ones seem tedious tbh, those pretty much seem designed to have you do it with coordination

[vivid bolt]

Some of them are tedious

[next relic]

what does veteran do better than zealot?

[junior needle]

Guns

And giving team shields

Also ammo

Thanks hadron

[scarlet vessel]

keep shattering impact or swap for gets hot! IV?

[delicate estuary]

The beta days were the best

You got the penance on any class

So you yoinked rumbler with shit ammo roll on an ogryn

And it was chill

Could also disconnect near end to make sure 🤣

[sharp ember]

change both perks, consistently reducing breakpoints to kill enemies is more important than blessings

[muted knot]

Did the stay in full coherency one with a server disconnect in beta

[sharp ember]

you can pick any damage perk except Infested and it’ll shave off a hit on useful targets. I recommend Maniac for one

[delicate estuary]

Good times 🥹

[scarlet vessel]

thanks will do, Flak is a given, dunno of Maniac or Carapiece

[umbral scaffold]

is there a setting to remove that shit efect when you have over half your hp corrupted

i cant see dik with that on

[celest vine]

Flak is not needed on plasma gun

[ashen hollow]

any blessing suggestions? for this mk3 shovel

Limbsplitter and Thrust IV. Thanks

[midnight totem]

hell yes, I managed to roll a power cycler 4

[woven geode]

does Redirect Fire Stack?

[crude ermine]

Nice

[woven geode]

like on top of itself

if i tag and kill multiple enemies

[scarlet vessel]

even no flak can 1 shot headshot gunners?

[junior needle]

Probably a mod if anything, of which I'd also like

[frank ether]

I'd like it aswell

really distracting

[sharp ember]

not over max capacity, but partial stacks will add together until max

and refresh duration

[woven geode]

oh that kinda sucks then

hmm

just 12% dmg

[sharp ember]

it's a pretty consistent and easy to maintain buff for your whole team

saves a few shots on rapid fire weapons

but may not change anything on a heavy hitter gun without breakpoint testing